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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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This is what fucks up any EU trade deal
All 28 EU member states support the Ceta free trade agreement, but Belgium's constitution stipulates that each of its regional governments must back the deal before the federal government can sign it |
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"This is what fucks up any EU trade deal
All 28 EU member states support the Ceta free trade agreement, but Belgium's constitution stipulates that each of its regional governments must back the deal before the federal government can sign it"
Exactly thats why it takes then years to get anywhere  |
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"This is what fucks up any EU trade deal
All 28 EU member states support the Ceta free trade agreement, but Belgium's constitution stipulates that each of its regional governments must back the deal before the federal government can sign it
Exactly thats why it takes then years to get anywhere "
That's why we will be better off when we have left the EU, not saying we will be better off straight away I think it will be hard for a few years but worth it in the end. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Drastically reduces the chances of the UK getting a good(for the UK) trade deal with the EU. "
No, the leave campaign assured us that Euro is willing to bend over backwards to help us get the best deal for the UK, even better than when we were a member   |
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"Drastically reduces the chances of the UK getting a good(for the UK) trade deal with the EU. "
We'll be better able to complete our own trade deals with any country outside of the EU though, without it being vetoed by some backwater in Belgium. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Drastically reduces the chances of the UK getting a good(for the UK) trade deal with the EU.
We'll be better able to complete our own trade deals with any country outside of the EU though, without it being vetoed by some backwater in Belgium. "
Yeah, one country at a time taking 7 years a pieces whilst we tell the 27 countries we have been trading with for years to go fuck themselves. Brilliant. |
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"This is what fucks up any EU trade deal
All 28 EU member states support the Ceta free trade agreement, but Belgium's constitution stipulates that each of its regional governments must back the deal before the federal government can sign it"
So the TTIP USA/EU trade deal went tits up earlier in the year because the 28 member states of the EU couldn't agree on it. Now it looks like the Canada/EU trade deal has hit the skids because some tiny part of Belgium doesn't agree with it. The EU is fast becoming a laughing stock, even one of the EU mouthpieces Donald Tusk admitted it doesn't look good for the EU if we cannot complete trade deals. Switzerland has more trade deals than the EU.
I'm sure Canada and the USA will be very happy to do trade deals with Britain in the knowledge that they can be completed once we have left the EU in 2019. |
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"Drastically reduces the chances of the UK getting a good(for the UK) trade deal with the EU.
We'll be better able to complete our own trade deals with any country outside of the EU though, without it being vetoed by some backwater in Belgium.
Yeah, one country at a time taking 7 years a pieces whilst we tell the 27 countries we have been trading with for years to go fuck themselves. Brilliant. "
Who says trade deals have to take 7 years a piece?
Oh, yeah that is average EU timescale for a trade deal to be completed while 28 member states squabble about the terms.
A free and independent Britain will be able to complete trade deals in a much shorter time frame on a 1 to 1 country basis with countries like the USA and Canada.
Australia for example has completed some of its trade deals in a matter of months, not years like the EU. |
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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
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It's not a good sign is it?, anyone who takes a positive from this must be flaming mad, all it says to me (and many economists I've seen on TV over the last couple of days) is hard times ahead for Britain in negotiating any kind of trade deal with the EU..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is what fucks up any EU trade deal
All 28 EU member states support the Ceta free trade agreement, but Belgium's constitution stipulates that each of its regional governments must back the deal before the federal government can sign it
So the TTIP USA/EU trade deal went tits up earlier in the year because the 28 member states of the EU couldn't agree on it. Now it looks like the Canada/EU trade deal has hit the skids because some tiny part of Belgium doesn't agree with it. The EU is fast becoming a laughing stock, even one of the EU mouthpieces Donald Tusk admitted it doesn't look good for the EU if we cannot complete trade deals. Switzerland has more trade deals than the EU.
I'm sure Canada and the USA will be very happy to do trade deals with Britain in the knowledge that they can be completed once we have left the EU in 2019. "
More proof that things will be so much easier to negotiate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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This total clusterfuck highlights a major principal problem with the EU and why it takes fucking decades to do something straight forward that a free nation can do in a fraction of the time.
It only fuels the leavers argument that we are right to leave, which you can't really argue against that.
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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
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"This is what fucks up any EU trade deal
All 28 EU member states support the Ceta free trade agreement, but Belgium's constitution stipulates that each of its regional governments must back the deal before the federal government can sign it
So the TTIP USA/EU trade deal went tits up earlier in the year because the 28 member states of the EU couldn't agree on it. Now it looks like the Canada/EU trade deal has hit the skids because some tiny part of Belgium doesn't agree with it. The EU is fast becoming a laughing stock, even one of the EU mouthpieces Donald Tusk admitted it doesn't look good for the EU if we cannot complete trade deals. Switzerland has more trade deals than the EU.
I'm sure Canada and the USA will be very happy to do trade deals with Britain in the knowledge that they can be completed once we have left the EU in 2019.
More proof that things will be so much easier to negotiate."
The United States NEVER have easy trade talks, in the main because they want it all there own way, any trade talks with the US will have to include them having access into UK infrastructure, and inroads into our NHS service. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Drastically reduces the chances of the UK getting a good(for the UK) trade deal with the EU.
We'll be better able to complete our own trade deals with any country outside of the EU though, without it being vetoed by some backwater in Belgium.
Yeah, one country at a time taking 7 years a pieces whilst we tell the 27 countries we have been trading with for years to go fuck themselves. Brilliant. "
what about the other 165 countries outwith the EU that we will have open doors to |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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It's just a sign of the popularist nationalism thats sweeping the world. Everyone is pulling up the drawbridge. Brexitiers think that everyone is going to welcome us with open arms but they're not, we are going to sorely regret leaving the EU.
You love to blame stuff on the EU, but its not as though TTIP or TPP are popular in the US either, as the TPP has nothing to do with the EU, how do you explain that? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Drastically reduces the chances of the UK getting a good(for the UK) trade deal with the EU.
We'll be better able to complete our own trade deals with any country outside of the EU though, without it being vetoed by some backwater in Belgium.
Yeah, one country at a time taking 7 years a pieces whilst we tell the 27 countries we have been trading with for years to go fuck themselves. Brilliant. "
One thing we are not doing is telling anyone to fuck off. We just dont like the trading arrangements. We want amicable relations with the eu. If anyone's fucked off it,s the eu block. Trading with other countries will be easier as they will know we're free of eu red tape. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Drastically reduces the chances of the UK getting a good(for the UK) trade deal with the EU.
We'll be better able to complete our own trade deals with any country outside of the EU though, without it being vetoed by some backwater in Belgium.
Yeah, one country at a time taking 7 years a pieces whilst we tell the 27 countries we have been trading with for years to go fuck themselves. Brilliant.
Who says trade deals have to take 7 years a piece?
Oh, yeah that is average EU timescale for a trade deal to be completed while 28 member states squabble about the terms.
A free and independent Britain will be able to complete trade deals in a much shorter time frame on a 1 to 1 country basis with countries like the USA and Canada.
Australia for example has completed some of its trade deals in a matter of months, not years like the EU. "
This! |
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"It's not a good sign is it?, anyone who takes a positive from this must be flaming mad, all it says to me (and many economists I've seen on TV over the last couple of days) is hard times ahead for Britain in negotiating any kind of trade deal with the EU....."
Not just the uk, EVERY country it would appear. |
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Reality is post brexit we have to export 40% more to the rest of the world to make up for Brexit trading costs. India as an example of a market we need access to has some interesting views on what that trade deal would look like. China and the USA will be no different. |
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"Reality is post brexit we have to export 40% more to the rest of the world to make up for Brexit trading costs. India as an example of a market we need access to has some interesting views on what that trade deal would look like. China and the USA will be no different."
Its just speculation until it happens which wont be for another 2 years and a hell of a lot can happen in that time.
Both France and Germany have general elections either or both could good or bad for the UK, the Euro is not at its best either.
So we will all have to wait and see good or bad its up to the UK to make the best of what ever comes our way. |
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