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"It seems that the politically correct morons at the Home Office (together with PC BBC and Sky censors who deliberately blacked out faces) have failed in their scurrilous attempt to redefine the word ‘children’ as computer analysis has confirmed what we already knew namely that the new arrivals have an age range of 23-38!? Which means some of them could be grandfathers! What is really insulting however is that these well-nourished, well-dressed and well-groomed (some with designer sideburns) individuals who have all the appearance of economic migrants will continue to be pampered and indulged by civil servants and social workers for years to come. And as they have no documents to prove their age or identity how do we know that they have any genuine link with their so-called family members in this country? More importantly how do we know they are not members of the Taliban or Islamic State or have criminal records as murderers or rapists!? If any of these individuals commit criminal offences in the future I would hold those involved in this decision-making equally responsible and be put in the same dock to account for their lies and deceit to the British public. " Hitler called for you, he wants to know if you can come round for a cuppa. | |||
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"What a truely awful attitude. I'm with Gary Linekar." On the subs bench? Maybe we need Graham Taylor to put Lineker in his place again?  | |||
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"I do find your 'personal responsibility' stand interesting though. How about if there are any refugees (that aren't rapists, murderers or terrorist) that aren't helped, that aren't given refuge, if they are killed or injured or a victim of a crime, should the people involved in the decision not to let them in also be prosecuted? Or maybe those inciting hatred of refugees like the newspaper editors, or maybe even forum posters, should they be prosecuted? " They are not refugees. They became economic migrants the moment they left the first safe country they entered. Also as France is a safe country why can't they claim asylum there? | |||
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"I do find your 'personal responsibility' stand interesting though. How about if there are any refugees (that aren't rapists, murderers or terrorist) that aren't helped, that aren't given refuge, if they are killed or injured or a victim of a crime, should the people involved in the decision not to let them in also be prosecuted? Or maybe those inciting hatred of refugees like the newspaper editors, or maybe even forum posters, should they be prosecuted? They are not refugees. They became economic migrants the moment they left the first safe country they entered. Also as France is a safe country why can't they claim asylum there? " Many weeks ago the government pledged to take a proportion of these children, other EU countries have taken their quota, some countries have taken well over their agreed quota....now Britain is simply bringing in numbers that we agreed. It's really no big deal, more a piss in a very big ocean.... | |||
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"I do find your 'personal responsibility' stand interesting though. How about if there are any refugees (that aren't rapists, murderers or terrorist) that aren't helped, that aren't given refuge, if they are killed or injured or a victim of a crime, should the people involved in the decision not to let them in also be prosecuted? Or maybe those inciting hatred of refugees like the newspaper editors, or maybe even forum posters, should they be prosecuted? They are not refugees. They became economic migrants the moment they left the first safe country they entered. Also as France is a safe country why can't they claim asylum there? " You think the home office usually go around collecting underage, unaccompanied economic migrants? No, they are refugees. | |||
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"It seems that the politically correct morons at the Home Office (together with PC BBC and Sky censors who deliberately blacked out faces) have failed in their scurrilous attempt to redefine the word ‘children’ as computer analysis has confirmed what we already knew namely that the new arrivals have an age range of 23-38!? Which means some of them could be grandfathers! What is really insulting however is that these well-nourished, well-dressed and well-groomed (some with designer sideburns) individuals who have all the appearance of economic migrants will continue to be pampered and indulged by civil servants and social workers for years to come. And as they have no documents to prove their age or identity how do we know that they have any genuine link with their so-called family members in this country? More importantly how do we know they are not members of the Taliban or Islamic State or have criminal records as murderers or rapists!? If any of these individuals commit criminal offences in the future I would hold those involved in this decision-making equally responsible and be put in the same dock to account for their lies and deceit to the British public. " We as a country are being made to look complete fools by allowing these individuals to describe them selves as children . People assigned to look after them are also being put in danger as they are tasked to care for children , whereas the reality is that these are grown men . Why should we allow these men to take advantage of out generiousity and compassion by deceiving if . If I choose to help someone I would at least prefer that they were honest . | |||
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"I do find your 'personal responsibility' stand interesting though. How about if there are any refugees (that aren't rapists, murderers or terrorist) that aren't helped, that aren't given refuge, if they are killed or injured or a victim of a crime, should the people involved in the decision not to let them in also be prosecuted? Or maybe those inciting hatred of refugees like the newspaper editors, or maybe even forum posters, should they be prosecuted? They are not refugees. They became economic migrants the moment they left the first safe country they entered. Also as France is a safe country why can't they claim asylum there? Many weeks ago the government pledged to take a proportion of these children, other EU countries have taken their quota, some countries have taken well over their agreed quota....now Britain is simply bringing in numbers that we agreed. It's really no big deal, more a piss in a very big ocean...." The people the poster is referring to are grown adults pretending to be children . I find fraud completely unacceptable . | |||
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"I do find your 'personal responsibility' stand interesting though. How about if there are any refugees (that aren't rapists, murderers or terrorist) that aren't helped, that aren't given refuge, if they are killed or injured or a victim of a crime, should the people involved in the decision not to let them in also be prosecuted? Or maybe those inciting hatred of refugees like the newspaper editors, or maybe even forum posters, should they be prosecuted? They are not refugees. They became economic migrants the moment they left the first safe country they entered. Also as France is a safe country why can't they claim asylum there? Many weeks ago the government pledged to take a proportion of these children, other EU countries have taken their quota, some countries have taken well over their agreed quota....now Britain is simply bringing in numbers that we agreed. It's really no big deal, more a piss in a very big ocean.... The people the poster is referring to are grown adults pretending to be children . I find fraud completely unacceptable ." That's for the Home Office officials to sort out, I haven't seen the refugees that were brought in today so I can't comment on them,....have you? | |||
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"I do find your 'personal responsibility' stand interesting though. How about if there are any refugees (that aren't rapists, murderers or terrorist) that aren't helped, that aren't given refuge, if they are killed or injured or a victim of a crime, should the people involved in the decision not to let them in also be prosecuted? Or maybe those inciting hatred of refugees like the newspaper editors, or maybe even forum posters, should they be prosecuted? They are not refugees. They became economic migrants the moment they left the first safe country they entered. Also as France is a safe country why can't they claim asylum there? Many weeks ago the government pledged to take a proportion of these children, other EU countries have taken their quota, some countries have taken well over their agreed quota....now Britain is simply bringing in numbers that we agreed. It's really no big deal, more a piss in a very big ocean.... The people the poster is referring to are grown adults pretending to be children . I find fraud completely unacceptable . That's for the Home Office officials to sort out, I haven't seen the refugees that were brought in today so I can't comment on them,....have you?" I think we all have a responsibilty to ensure that out generousity is not taken advantage of. From the pictures which I saw in the paper not one would be classed as a child . | |||
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"I do find your 'personal responsibility' stand interesting though. How about if there are any refugees (that aren't rapists, murderers or terrorist) that aren't helped, that aren't given refuge, if they are killed or injured or a victim of a crime, should the people involved in the decision not to let them in also be prosecuted? Or maybe those inciting hatred of refugees like the newspaper editors, or maybe even forum posters, should they be prosecuted? They are not refugees. They became economic migrants the moment they left the first safe country they entered. Also as France is a safe country why can't they claim asylum there? Many weeks ago the government pledged to take a proportion of these children, other EU countries have taken their quota, some countries have taken well over their agreed quota....now Britain is simply bringing in numbers that we agreed. It's really no big deal, more a piss in a very big ocean.... The people the poster is referring to are grown adults pretending to be children . I find fraud completely unacceptable . That's for the Home Office officials to sort out, I haven't seen the refugees that were brought in today so I can't comment on them,....have you?" there is one on facebook today, a 35 year old man called Mandy who's looking forward to his first day at school | |||
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"I do find your 'personal responsibility' stand interesting though. How about if there are any refugees (that aren't rapists, murderers or terrorist) that aren't helped, that aren't given refuge, if they are killed or injured or a victim of a crime, should the people involved in the decision not to let them in also be prosecuted? Or maybe those inciting hatred of refugees like the newspaper editors, or maybe even forum posters, should they be prosecuted? They are not refugees. They became economic migrants the moment they left the first safe country they entered. Also as France is a safe country why can't they claim asylum there? Many weeks ago the government pledged to take a proportion of these children, other EU countries have taken their quota, some countries have taken well over their agreed quota....now Britain is simply bringing in numbers that we agreed. It's really no big deal, more a piss in a very big ocean.... The people the poster is referring to are grown adults pretending to be children . I find fraud completely unacceptable . That's for the Home Office officials to sort out, I haven't seen the refugees that were brought in today so I can't comment on them,....have you? I think we all have a responsibilty to ensure that out generousity is not taken advantage of. From the pictures which I saw in the paper not one would be classed as a child . " Having seen the statement that the guy who was in the lead photo in the papers this week was in fact a government employed translator I am left feeling confused. I've already said in another post on here that the Home Office team that are in Calais are a bit of a joke... | |||
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"I do find your 'personal responsibility' stand interesting though. How about if there are any refugees (that aren't rapists, murderers or terrorist) that aren't helped, that aren't given refuge, if they are killed or injured or a victim of a crime, should the people involved in the decision not to let them in also be prosecuted? Or maybe those inciting hatred of refugees like the newspaper editors, or maybe even forum posters, should they be prosecuted? They are not refugees. They became economic migrants the moment they left the first safe country they entered. Also as France is a safe country why can't they claim asylum there? Many weeks ago the government pledged to take a proportion of these children, other EU countries have taken their quota, some countries have taken well over their agreed quota....now Britain is simply bringing in numbers that we agreed. It's really no big deal, more a piss in a very big ocean.... The people the poster is referring to are grown adults pretending to be children . I find fraud completely unacceptable . That's for the Home Office officials to sort out, I haven't seen the refugees that were brought in today so I can't comment on them,....have you? there is one on facebook today, a 35 year old man called Mandy who's looking forward to his first day at school" He's got a Facebook page already?.....wow, fast mover | |||
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"I do find your 'personal responsibility' stand interesting though. How about if there are any refugees (that aren't rapists, murderers or terrorist) that aren't helped, that aren't given refuge, if they are killed or injured or a victim of a crime, should the people involved in the decision not to let them in also be prosecuted? Or maybe those inciting hatred of refugees like the newspaper editors, or maybe even forum posters, should they be prosecuted? They are not refugees. They became economic migrants the moment they left the first safe country they entered. Also as France is a safe country why can't they claim asylum there? Many weeks ago the government pledged to take a proportion of these children, other EU countries have taken their quota, some countries have taken well over their agreed quota....now Britain is simply bringing in numbers that we agreed. It's really no big deal, more a piss in a very big ocean.... The people the poster is referring to are grown adults pretending to be children . I find fraud completely unacceptable . That's for the Home Office officials to sort out, I haven't seen the refugees that were brought in today so I can't comment on them,....have you? there is one on facebook today, a 35 year old man called Mandy who's looking forward to his first day at school He's got a Facebook page already?.....wow, fast mover" Or maybe they made it up to breed mistrust and hatred of refugees? Just a thought  | |||
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"It seems that the politically correct morons at the Home Office (together with PC BBC and Sky censors who deliberately blacked out faces) have failed in their scurrilous attempt to redefine the word ‘children’ as computer analysis has confirmed what we already knew namely that the new arrivals have an age range of 23-38!? Which means some of them could be grandfathers! What is really insulting however is that these well-nourished, well-dressed and well-groomed (some with designer sideburns) individuals who have all the appearance of economic migrants will continue to be pampered and indulged by civil servants and social workers for years to come. And as they have no documents to prove their age or identity how do we know that they have any genuine link with their so-called family members in this country? More importantly how do we know they are not members of the Taliban or Islamic State or have criminal records as murderers or rapists!? If any of these individuals commit criminal offences in the future I would hold those involved in this decision-making equally responsible and be put in the same dock to account for their lies and deceit to the British public. " Op, i'd be interested to see how in touch with the real world you are. I dont trust Facebook for news. Instead I see what is before me. I have worked with children who have been rescued from traffickers .... given them a new life, or been part of that, and quite honestly, your attitude and use of language offends me. I wonder if you know how many of the PC brigade actually are involved in helping people day to day and see the true reality of the situation .... | |||
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"It seems that the politically correct morons at the Home Office (together with PC BBC and Sky censors who deliberately blacked out faces) have failed in their scurrilous attempt to redefine the word ‘children’ as computer analysis has confirmed what we already knew namely that the new arrivals have an age range of 23-38!? Which means some of them could be grandfathers! What is really insulting however is that these well-nourished, well-dressed and well-groomed (some with designer sideburns) individuals who have all the appearance of economic migrants will continue to be pampered and indulged by civil servants and social workers for years to come. And as they have no documents to prove their age or identity how do we know that they have any genuine link with their so-called family members in this country? More importantly how do we know they are not members of the Taliban or Islamic State or have criminal records as murderers or rapists!? If any of these individuals commit criminal offences in the future I would hold those involved in this decision-making equally responsible and be put in the same dock to account for their lies and deceit to the British public. Op, i'd be interested to see how in touch with the real world you are. I dont trust Facebook for news. Instead I see what is before me. I have worked with children who have been rescued from traffickers .... given them a new life, or been part of that, and quite honestly, your attitude and use of language offends me. I wonder if you know how many of the PC brigade actually are involved in helping people day to day and see the true reality of the situation ...." I too have worked with refugees, including refugees who served with the British during WWII, its sickening to me the way that some people on here talk about refugees. | |||
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"I do find your 'personal responsibility' stand interesting though. How about if there are any refugees (that aren't rapists, murderers or terrorist) that aren't helped, that aren't given refuge, if they are killed or injured or a victim of a crime, should the people involved in the decision not to let them in also be prosecuted? Or maybe those inciting hatred of refugees like the newspaper editors, or maybe even forum posters, should they be prosecuted? They are not refugees. They became economic migrants the moment they left the first safe country they entered. Also as France is a safe country why can't they claim asylum there? " The nursing homes and pensions aren't as good in France. | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits." We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... " We used to live in the Bromley area..... | |||
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"None of us on here can possibly know how terrifying it must be to live in a war zone, what it must be like having to sell everything you have left to have your children smuggled out of the country to safety...... Many of these people have walked hundreds of miles, and if Britain has to take a small number then so be it......around 40,000 Brits emigrate to Australia and New Zealand every year so we are not exactly at crisis point just yet." Some of us do. But the haters would not believe what happens in the world out there | |||
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"I do find your 'personal responsibility' stand interesting though. How about if there are any refugees (that aren't rapists, murderers or terrorist) that aren't helped, that aren't given refuge, if they are killed or injured or a victim of a crime, should the people involved in the decision not to let them in also be prosecuted? Or maybe those inciting hatred of refugees like the newspaper editors, or maybe even forum posters, should they be prosecuted? They are not refugees. They became economic migrants the moment they left the first safe country they entered. Also as France is a safe country why can't they claim asylum there? Many weeks ago the government pledged to take a proportion of these children, other EU countries have taken their quota, some countries have taken well over their agreed quota....now Britain is simply bringing in numbers that we agreed. It's really no big deal, more a piss in a very big ocean.... The people the poster is referring to are grown adults pretending to be children . I find fraud completely unacceptable . That's for the Home Office officials to sort out, I haven't seen the refugees that were brought in today so I can't comment on them,....have you? I think we all have a responsibilty to ensure that out generousity is not taken advantage of. From the pictures which I saw in the paper not one would be classed as a child . Having seen the statement that the guy who was in the lead photo in the papers this week was in fact a government employed translator I am left feeling confused. I've already said in another post on here that the Home Office team that are in Calais are a bit of a joke..." He's not an interpreter. He's one of the refugee 'children' | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... " what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house" Parts of Croydon are very nice actually, it's a very big place......some very select areas in Croydon. | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Parts of Croydon are very nice actually, it's a very big place......some very select areas in Croydon. " and by select what do you mean? | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Parts of Croydon are very nice actually, it's a very big place......some very select areas in Croydon. and by select what do you mean?" Select as in areas where £500k won't get you a four bedroom house.....private schools are very common, more big Mercs than you can shake a stick at.....like most towns in the Southeast, Croydon has its nice spots..... | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Parts of Croydon are very nice actually, it's a very big place......some very select areas in Croydon. and by select what do you mean? Select as in areas where £500k won't get you a four bedroom house.....private schools are very common, more big Mercs than you can shake a stick at.....like most towns in the Southeast, Croydon has its nice spots....." 500k wouldn't get you a 4 bedroom house in the shitholes so I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. Just check out the crime figures for Croyden | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Parts of Croydon are very nice actually, it's a very big place......some very select areas in Croydon. Bloody hell, what does it matter and by select what do you mean? Select as in areas where £500k won't get you a four bedroom house.....private schools are very common, more big Mercs than you can shake a stick at.....like most towns in the Southeast, Croydon has its nice spots..... 500k wouldn't get you a 4 bedroom house in the shitholes so I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. Just check out the crime figures for Croyden"  | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Parts of Croydon are very nice actually, it's a very big place......some very select areas in Croydon. and by select what do you mean? Select as in areas where £500k won't get you a four bedroom house.....private schools are very common, more big Mercs than you can shake a stick at.....like most towns in the Southeast, Croydon has its nice spots..... 500k wouldn't get you a 4 bedroom house in the shitholes so I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. Just check out the crime figures for Croyden" Bloody hell, what does it matter | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Parts of Croydon are very nice actually, it's a very big place......some very select areas in Croydon. and by select what do you mean? Select as in areas where £500k won't get you a four bedroom house.....private schools are very common, more big Mercs than you can shake a stick at.....like most towns in the Southeast, Croydon has its nice spots..... 500k wouldn't get you a 4 bedroom house in the shitholes so I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. Just check out the crime figures for Croyden" I wen t for a course there once and I did not feel very safe even though it was early evening . | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Parts of Croydon are very nice actually, it's a very big place......some very select areas in Croydon. and by select what do you mean? Select as in areas where £500k won't get you a four bedroom house.....private schools are very common, more big Mercs than you can shake a stick at.....like most towns in the Southeast, Croydon has its nice spots..... 500k wouldn't get you a 4 bedroom house in the shitholes so I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. Just check out the crime figures for Croyden Bloody hell, what does it matter "not one jot to me, I don't have to live there  | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Parts of Croydon are very nice actually, it's a very big place......some very select areas in Croydon. and by select what do you mean?" where there are no immigrants of course | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Parts of Croydon are very nice actually, it's a very big place......some very select areas in Croydon. and by select what do you mean?where there are no immigrants of course "my thoughts exactly but he wouldn't say it | |||
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"This thread breaks my heart. The ignorance is astounding. It's as though time stood still and we haven't seen the merciless killing of innocents in the past at all. When did hearts become swinging bricks? " next the OP and his ilk will be wanting them to wear a little yellow star on thier coats now where have we seen that before ? | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Parts of Croydon are very nice actually, it's a very big place......some very select areas in Croydon. and by select what do you mean?where there are no immigrants of course
my thoughts exactly but he wouldn't say it "You really are an idiot aren't you?, as I said before, you have no knowledge of my background, you don't even know what colour I am.....but your twisted, argumentative little mind just has to keep pushing it. | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Parts of Croydon are very nice actually, it's a very big place......some very select areas in Croydon. and by select what do you mean?where there are no immigrants of course
my thoughts exactly but he wouldn't say it
You really are an idiot aren't you?, as I said before, you have no knowledge of my background, you don't even know what colour I am.....but your twisted, argumentative little mind just has to keep pushing it.
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Parts of Croydon are very nice actually, it's a very big place......some very select areas in Croydon. and by select what do you mean?where there are no immigrants of course
my thoughts exactly but he wouldn't say it "We live in Thornton heath and frequent most areas of Croydon, although I dont work there, I travel to work. To be hinest I dont focus on if someone is an immigrant or not .... | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Its not a snit hole and I have never heard a gun shot offends R felt in danger. I feel safe there and it's a very welcoming community. Totally not what you are saying .... " My wife originally came from Shirley, we still have a house there (her late mothers house), we've never felt unsafe on the rare occasions we go back. | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Its not a snit hole and I have never heard a gun shot offends R felt in danger. I feel safe there and it's a very welcoming community. Totally not what you are saying .... " head in sand again. Defend the crime figures for Croydon then? For anyone who cares to look they speak for themselves. Don't know what Croydon has to do with anything anyway | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Its not a snit hole and I have never heard a gun shot offends R felt in danger. I feel safe there and it's a very welcoming community. Totally not what you are saying .... head in sand again. Defend the crime figures for Croydon then? For anyone who cares to look they speak for themselves. Don't know what Croydon has to do with anything anyway" I think it was you that called it a shit hole, but then again you are an expert on everything..... | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Its not a snit hole and I have never heard a gun shot offends R felt in danger. I feel safe there and it's a very welcoming community. Totally not what you are saying .... head in sand again. Defend the crime figures for Croydon then? For anyone who cares to look they speak for themselves. Don't know what Croydon has to do with anything anyway" Head in the sand? Unlikely as I am working on the front line every day ... are you? You don't see the truth that is happening in front of us. some of us are dealing with it daily. Croydon has something to do with it because someone referenda d it on sky news. I say what I see, what I experience first hand and what I live with. Do you? | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Its not a snit hole and I have never heard a gun shot offends R felt in danger. I feel safe there and it's a very welcoming community. Totally not what you are saying .... head in sand again. Defend the crime figures for Croydon then? For anyone who cares to look they speak for themselves. Don't know what Croydon has to do with anything anyway Head in the sand? Unlikely as I am working on the front line every day ... are you? You don't see the truth that is happening in front of us. some of us are dealing with it daily. Croydon has something to do with it because someone referenda d it on sky news. I say what I see, what I experience first hand and what I live with. Do you? front line of what? Dealing with what? Dealing with immigrants, refugees, people who have been trafficked .... " you make it sound like a war zone. So why are they in the shit hole that is Croydon? | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Its not a snit hole and I have never heard a gun shot offends R felt in danger. I feel safe there and it's a very welcoming community. Totally not what you are saying .... head in sand again. Defend the crime figures for Croydon then? For anyone who cares to look they speak for themselves. Don't know what Croydon has to do with anything anyway Head in the sand? Unlikely as I am working on the front line every day ... are you? You don't see the truth that is happening in front of us. some of us are dealing with it daily. Croydon has something to do with it because someone referenda d it on sky news. I say what I see, what I experience first hand and what I live with. Do you? front line of what? Dealing with what? Dealing with immigrants, refugees, people who have been trafficked .... you make it sound like a war zone. So why are they in the shit hole that is Croydon?" I don't work in Croydon. I am not talking about Croydon, but the borough where I work .... its not a war zone, I have never been to one. Croydon, and the community I work in are both safe, diverse and friendly areas .... | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Its not a snit hole and I have never heard a gun shot offends R felt in danger. I feel safe there and it's a very welcoming community. Totally not what you are saying .... head in sand again. Defend the crime figures for Croydon then? For anyone who cares to look they speak for themselves. Don't know what Croydon has to do with anything anyway Head in the sand? Unlikely as I am working on the front line every day ... are you? You don't see the truth that is happening in front of us. some of us are dealing with it daily. Croydon has something to do with it because someone referenda d it on sky news. I say what I see, what I experience first hand and what I live with. Do you? front line of what? Dealing with what? Dealing with immigrants, refugees, people who have been trafficked .... you make it sound like a war zone. So why are they in the shit hole that is Croydon? I don't work in Croydon. I am not talking about Croydon, but the borough where I work .... its not a war zone, I have never been to one. Croydon, and the community I work in are both safe, diverse and friendly areas .... " so why are there so many shootings, knifings and muggings? Or am I making it up? Have you looked at the numbers? | |||
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"New One Billion pound shopping centre being built soon in Croydon, great to see it finally getting the go ahead. How is this possible when we're leaving the EU? "It's possible because it's in a London borough....high incomes demand better places to shop in. | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Its not a snit hole and I have never heard a gun shot offends R felt in danger. I feel safe there and it's a very welcoming community. Totally not what you are saying .... head in sand again. Defend the crime figures for Croydon then? For anyone who cares to look they speak for themselves. Don't know what Croydon has to do with anything anyway Head in the sand? Unlikely as I am working on the front line every day ... are you? You don't see the truth that is happening in front of us. some of us are dealing with it daily. Croydon has something to do with it because someone referenda d it on sky news. I say what I see, what I experience first hand and what I live with. Do you? front line of what? Dealing with what? Dealing with immigrants, refugees, people who have been trafficked .... you make it sound like a war zone. So why are they in the shit hole that is Croydon?" Why are you continually goading someone about the place they live?.....time to grow up | |||
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"It seems that the politically correct morons at the Home Office (together with PC BBC and Sky censors who deliberately blacked out faces) have failed in their scurrilous attempt to redefine the word ‘children’ as computer analysis has confirmed what we already knew namely that the new arrivals have an age range of 23-38!? Which means some of them could be grandfathers! What is really insulting however is that these well-nourished, well-dressed and well-groomed (some with designer sideburns) individuals who have all the appearance of economic migrants will continue to be pampered and indulged by civil servants and social workers for years to come. And as they have no documents to prove their age or identity how do we know that they have any genuine link with their so-called family members in this country? More importantly how do we know they are not members of the Taliban or Islamic State or have criminal records as murderers or rapists!? If any of these individuals commit criminal offences in the future I would hold those involved in this decision-making equally responsible and be put in the same dock to account for their lies and deceit to the British public. Op, i'd be interested to see how in touch with the real world you are. I dont trust Facebook for news. Instead I see what is before me. I have worked with children who have been rescued from traffickers .... given them a new life, or been part of that, and quite honestly, your attitude and use of language offends me. I wonder if you know how many of the PC brigade actually are involved in helping people day to day and see the true reality of the situation .... I too have worked with refugees, including refugees who served with the British during WWII, its sickening to me the way that some people on here talk about refugees." Perhaps you should work and help the homeless and poverty stricken in the UK before you try saving the rest of the world If the UK was a strong rich nation then yes, call out and help others by all means, but at least fix our own broken home first (UK) we simply cannot save the world, whether you want to or not, its very easy to think we are living in a world of cotton wool and candy but in reality we need to fix the UK before we try saving the rest of the world | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Its not a snit hole and I have never heard a gun shot offends R felt in danger. I feel safe there and it's a very welcoming community. Totally not what you are saying .... head in sand again. Defend the crime figures for Croydon then? For anyone who cares to look they speak for themselves. Don't know what Croydon has to do with anything anyway Head in the sand? Unlikely as I am working on the front line every day ... are you? You don't see the truth that is happening in front of us. some of us are dealing with it daily. Croydon has something to do with it because someone referenda d it on sky news. I say what I see, what I experience first hand and what I live with. Do you? front line of what? Dealing with what? Dealing with immigrants, refugees, people who have been trafficked .... you make it sound like a war zone. So why are they in the shit hole that is Croydon? I don't work in Croydon. I am not talking about Croydon, but the borough where I work .... its not a war zone, I have never been to one. Croydon, and the community I work in are both safe, diverse and friendly areas .... so why are there so many shootings, knifings and muggings? Or am I making it up? Have you looked at the numbers? You wouldn't be trying to divert the thread away from the horrible bigotted ignorant OP by any chance would you? "why would I want to do that? Whether I agree with it or not it is a good OP and brings up some valid points. And frankly thats a bit rich coming from yourself, one whose posts are often bigotted and ignorant | |||
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"It seems that the politically correct morons at the Home Office (together with PC BBC and Sky censors who deliberately blacked out faces) have failed in their scurrilous attempt to redefine the word ‘children’ as computer analysis has confirmed what we already knew namely that the new arrivals have an age range of 23-38!? Which means some of them could be grandfathers! What is really insulting however is that these well-nourished, well-dressed and well-groomed (some with designer sideburns) individuals who have all the appearance of economic migrants will continue to be pampered and indulged by civil servants and social workers for years to come. And as they have no documents to prove their age or identity how do we know that they have any genuine link with their so-called family members in this country? More importantly how do we know they are not members of the Taliban or Islamic State or have criminal records as murderers or rapists!? If any of these individuals commit criminal offences in the future I would hold those involved in this decision-making equally responsible and be put in the same dock to account for their lies and deceit to the British public. Op, i'd be interested to see how in touch with the real world you are. I dont trust Facebook for news. Instead I see what is before me. I have worked with children who have been rescued from traffickers .... given them a new life, or been part of that, and quite honestly, your attitude and use of language offends me. I wonder if you know how many of the PC brigade actually are involved in helping people day to day and see the true reality of the situation .... I too have worked with refugees, including refugees who served with the British during WWII, its sickening to me the way that some people on here talk about refugees. Perhaps you should work and help the homeless and poverty stricken in the UK before you try saving the rest of the world If the UK was a strong rich nation then yes, call out and help others by all means, but at least fix our own broken home first (UK) we simply cannot save the world, whether you want to or not, its very easy to think we are living in a world of cotton wool and candy but in reality we need to fix the UK before we try saving the rest of the world" I do that too. What do you do to help others in this world? | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Its not a snit hole and I have never heard a gun shot offends R felt in danger. I feel safe there and it's a very welcoming community. Totally not what you are saying .... head in sand again. Defend the crime figures for Croydon then? For anyone who cares to look they speak for themselves. Don't know what Croydon has to do with anything anyway Head in the sand? Unlikely as I am working on the front line every day ... are you? You don't see the truth that is happening in front of us. some of us are dealing with it daily. Croydon has something to do with it because someone referenda d it on sky news. I say what I see, what I experience first hand and what I live with. Do you? front line of what? Dealing with what? Dealing with immigrants, refugees, people who have been trafficked .... you make it sound like a war zone. So why are they in the shit hole that is Croydon? I don't work in Croydon. I am not talking about Croydon, but the borough where I work .... its not a war zone, I have never been to one. Croydon, and the community I work in are both safe, diverse and friendly areas .... so why are there so many shootings, knifings and muggings? Or am I making it up? Have you looked at the numbers? You wouldn't be trying to divert the thread away from the horrible bigotted ignorant OP by any chance would you? "I don't think the OP is bigoted at all. The people who should really be ashamed are the charity and government workers who have pushed these through pretty much on the nod while leaving genuine children in the camps. What is also beyond stupid and really disgusting is that these same charity and government workers have done untold damage to public opinion which will make it more difficult for genuine children in the future. I would also be interested in which countries these "refugees" originate from. | |||
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"It seems that the politically correct morons at the Home Office (together with PC BBC and Sky censors who deliberately blacked out faces) have failed in their scurrilous attempt to redefine the word ‘children’ as computer analysis has confirmed what we already knew namely that the new arrivals have an age range of 23-38!? Which means some of them could be grandfathers! What is really insulting however is that these well-nourished, well-dressed and well-groomed (some with designer sideburns) individuals who have all the appearance of economic migrants will continue to be pampered and indulged by civil servants and social workers for years to come. And as they have no documents to prove their age or identity how do we know that they have any genuine link with their so-called family members in this country? More importantly how do we know they are not members of the Taliban or Islamic State or have criminal records as murderers or rapists!? If any of these individuals commit criminal offences in the future I would hold those involved in this decision-making equally responsible and be put in the same dock to account for their lies and deceit to the British public. " I believe it's the opposite. They're doing it to protect then from some of the British public and papers. Did we never learn anything from Hillsborough and the death of Princess Diana? In school I had English kids that look in their 20s when we were 14. Maybe we should check British children too. Let's not racially discriminate with these checks. Since everyone here isn't racist.  | |||
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" If any of these individuals commit criminal offences in the future I would hold those involved in this decision-making equally responsible and be put in the same dock to account for their lies and deceit to the British public. " What a stunning idea! Let's do it properly; for everyone in UK So whenever someone commits a crime ; lets charge their parents with the crime too; (it's their fault they were born) And the midwives who were there when they were born ( it's their fault too), And their schoolteachers (it must also be their fault) Might as well charge their grandparents too, since they gave birth to their parents. | |||
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" If any of these individuals commit criminal offences in the future I would hold those involved in this decision-making equally responsible and be put in the same dock to account for their lies and deceit to the British public. What a stunning idea! Let's do it properly; for everyone in UK So whenever someone commits a crime ; lets charge their parents with the crime too; (it's their fault they were born) And the midwives who were there when they were born ( it's their fault too), And their schoolteachers (it must also be their fault) Might as well charge their grandparents too, since they gave birth to their parents. " We can change their future children too... | |||
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"If anyone cares to look on the Sky News site they have videos of the refugees arriving in Croydon today.....most of them look very small, even if their faces are being blocked out....either that or they are Syrian hobbits. We are off to Croydon this evening, as we have a house there. I love that place, love walking down the streets .... what? To the sound of gunshots? It's a shithole. My brother in law is a black cab driver and lived there for years until the 3rd time he got mugged for his takings getting out of his cab outside his house Its not a snit hole and I have never heard a gun shot offends R felt in danger. I feel safe there and it's a very welcoming community. Totally not what you are saying .... head in sand again. Defend the crime figures for Croydon then? For anyone who cares to look they speak for themselves. Don't know what Croydon has to do with anything anyway Head in the sand? Unlikely as I am working on the front line every day ... are you? You don't see the truth that is happening in front of us. some of us are dealing with it daily. Croydon has something to do with it because someone referenda d it on sky news. I say what I see, what I experience first hand and what I live with. Do you? front line of what? Dealing with what? Dealing with immigrants, refugees, people who have been trafficked .... you make it sound like a war zone. So why are they in the shit hole that is Croydon? Why are you continually goading someone about the place they live?.....time to grow up" The posters protests about Croydon too much ... I love living there (I am my son's at the moment, so technically not there) and, with my career and our family income, we could live anywhere in the UK, so we have a choice and we chose Croydon. Saying it is a shit hole, you have to consider the source. | |||
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"When they mentioned children i was honestly expecting little ones.. I.e 5 year olds.. Babies even. " That's a bit naive ; The small children are not being left by their parents; it's the teen/ adolescents. | |||
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"This is how it started in sweden, welcome to englaztan." I really don't like the eye-rolling emoji, but sometimes it captures an emotional response perfectly
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"When they mentioned children i was honestly expecting little ones.. I.e 5 year olds.. Babies even. That's a bit naive ; The small children are not being left by their parents; it's the teen/ adolescents. " oh .. Ok then Didn't know that bit | |||
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"This is how it started in sweden, welcome to englaztan. I really don't like the eye-rolling emoji, but sometimes it captures an emotional response perfectly
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"This is how it started in sweden, welcome to englaztan. I really don't like the eye-rolling emoji, but sometimes it captures an emotional response perfectly
It's perfectly valid to have concerns around the levels of immigration but this is the unedifying language of a bigot who is unable to properly formulate an argument.If you have lived under it like me in sweden, you will understand."I've lived in the Middle East Shag, amongst many other places including multicultural areas in this country. I know exactly what it's like. | |||
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"This is how it started in sweden, welcome to englaztan. I really don't like the eye-rolling emoji, but sometimes it captures an emotional response perfectly
It's perfectly valid to have concerns around the levels of immigration but this is the unedifying language of a bigot who is unable to properly formulate an argument.If you have lived under it like me in sweden, you will understand.
I've lived in the Middle East Shag, amongst many other places including multicultural areas in this country. I know exactly what it's like."That is good and yeah, we will see how it goes here after a while. | |||
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"This is how it started in sweden, welcome to englaztan. I really don't like the eye-rolling emoji, but sometimes it captures an emotional response perfectly
It's perfectly valid to have concerns around the levels of immigration but this is the unedifying language of a bigot who is unable to properly formulate an argument.If you have lived under it like me in sweden, you will understand.
I've lived in the Middle East Shag, amongst many other places including multicultural areas in this country. I know exactly what it's like.That is good and yeah, we will see how it goes here after a while. "There have been Muslims in this country for time immemorial - far longer, I imagine, than in Sweden. For the most part, the story of British Muslims since wider immigration in the 50's has been a positive one, and that will continue. | |||
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"This is how it started in sweden, welcome to englaztan. I really don't like the eye-rolling emoji, but sometimes it captures an emotional response perfectly
It's perfectly valid to have concerns around the levels of immigration but this is the unedifying language of a bigot who is unable to properly formulate an argument.If you have lived under it like me in sweden, you will understand.
I've lived in the Middle East Shag, amongst many other places including multicultural areas in this country. I know exactly what it's like.That is good and yeah, we will see how it goes here after a while.
There have been Muslims in this country for time immemorial - far longer, I imagine, than in Sweden. For the most part, the story of British Muslims since wider immigration in the 50's has been a positive one, and that will continue.
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. " And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade | |||
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"This is how it started in sweden, welcome to englaztan. I really don't like the eye-rolling emoji, but sometimes it captures an emotional response perfectly
It's perfectly valid to have concerns around the levels of immigration but this is the unedifying language of a bigot who is unable to properly formulate an argument.If you have lived under it like me in sweden, you will understand.
I've lived in the Middle East Shag, amongst many other places including multicultural areas in this country. I know exactly what it's like.That is good and yeah, we will see how it goes here after a while.
There have been Muslims in this country for time immemorial - far longer, I imagine, than in Sweden. For the most part, the story of British Muslims since wider immigration in the 50's has been a positive one, and that will continue.
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"What do the wankers on here think of the adults who are pretending to be children?" Dare I say it was getting boring without you? I say, teenagers are still classed as children .... | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade " That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. | |||
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"What do the wankers on here think of the adults who are pretending to be children?" I would prefer the debate without the bad language though. If that's is possible at your end ''.. | |||
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"What do the wankers on here think of the adults who are pretending to be children?" Dear oh dear, are you not capable of debate without resorting to offensive remarks? You need to get used to the fact that not everyone will agree with everything you say, it's a free thinking country..... | |||
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"What do the wankers on here think of the adults who are pretending to be children? Dear oh dear, are you not capable of debate without resorting to offensive remarks? You need to get used to the fact that not everyone will agree with everything you say, it's a free thinking country....." Its good for entertainment value you, you have to admit it | |||
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"What do the wankers on here think of the adults who are pretending to be children? Dear oh dear, are you not capable of debate without resorting to offensive remarks? You need to get used to the fact that not everyone will agree with everything you say, it's a free thinking country....." "Never lert me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted" - Ralph Waldo Emerson | |||
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"I applaud the fact that we, as a country, are finally taking some responsibility for unaccompanied refugee children. However it is a fact (home office own figures have shown up to 75%?) that some of these "children" are certainly not what they claim to be. They are (a) in their twenties (b) economic migrants rather than refugees. The problem I see is that we have stated that we will take a certain number of children in......everyone of these fakes is taking the place of a genuine child refugee. One such case is one too many....regardless of if, or not, they pose a risk to this country. On any level it is wron and should be highlighted." Exactly!.....the problem isn't that older youths and young men are attempting to slip in as children, it's that the Home Office officials sent to Calais are simply not good enough to retain their positions as their judgement is so bloody bad! It's human nature to endeavour to succeed, that's exactly what these 'fake children' are showing signs of, but they must be amazed that they got away with it on the backs of incompetent government officials..... Don't blame the youths and young men here, blame the god awful 'experts' we have sent in. | |||
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"What do the wankers on here think of the adults who are pretending to be children? Dear oh dear, are you not capable of debate without resorting to offensive remarks? You need to get used to the fact that not everyone will agree with everything you say, it's a free thinking country..... "Never lert me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted" - Ralph Waldo Emerson " Fabulous quotation, hits the nail on the head perfectly! | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. " No you idiot; it's happening in the places where they come from originally But you couldn't care less as long as they aren't disturbing your lovely English insular life, and interfering with your enjoyment of hating the rest of the world . | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. No you idiot; it's happening in the places where they come from originally But you couldn't care less as long as they aren't disturbing your lovely English insular life, and interfering with your enjoyment of hating the rest of the world ."
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. No you idiot; it's happening in the places where they come from originally But you couldn't care less as long as they aren't disturbing your lovely English insular life, and interfering with your enjoyment of hating the rest of the world ." LOL, what's wrong touched a nerve?
You just admitted these things are not happening in France, so I ask again why can't they claim asylum in France?
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. " And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x | |||
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"I do find your 'personal responsibility' stand interesting though. How about if there are any refugees (that aren't rapists, murderers or terrorist) that aren't helped, that aren't given refuge, if they are killed or injured or a victim of a crime, should the people involved in the decision not to let them in also be prosecuted? Or maybe those inciting hatred of refugees like the newspaper editors, or maybe even forum posters, should they be prosecuted? They are not refugees. They became economic migrants the moment they left the first safe country they entered. Also as France is a safe country why can't they claim asylum there? " . | |||
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"What do the wankers on here think of the adults who are pretending to be children? Dear oh dear, are you not capable of debate without resorting to offensive remarks? You need to get used to the fact that not everyone will agree with everything you say, it's a free thinking country..... "Never lert me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted" - Ralph Waldo Emerson Fabulous quotation, hits the nail on the head perfectly!" I ashamed to have been born white in the U.K., all of this Muslim on Muslim hatred is caused by us white Europeans interfering in the Middle East, if we kept out of it they would have eternal peace over there.. | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. No you idiot; it's happening in the places where they come from originally But you couldn't care less as long as they aren't disturbing your lovely English insular life, and interfering with your enjoyment of hating the rest of the world . LOL, what's wrong touched a nerve?
You just admitted these things are not happening in France, so I ask again why can't they claim asylum in France?
"Touch a nerve? Yes; you are So full of hate. So: Frsnce: Yes; France is organized; It is accepting refugees; It's been doing do for some time ; properly and in a ordnance with international law. the UK ( bring one of the causes of the problems in the first place) has been actively evading its international responsibilities; Doing everything it can to obstruct , pandering to its hate filled, xenophobic and racist population. It disgusts me beyond words. But the UK has | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. No you idiot; it's happening in the places where they come from originally But you couldn't care less as long as they aren't disturbing your lovely English insular life, and interfering with your enjoyment of hating the rest of the world . LOL, what's wrong touched a nerve?
You just admitted these things are not happening in France, so I ask again why can't they claim asylum in France?
Touch a nerve?
Yes; you are So full of hate.
So: Frsnce:
Yes; France is organized;
It is accepting refugees;
It's been doing do for some time ; properly and in a ordnance with international law.
the UK ( bring one of the causes of the problems in the first place) has been actively evading its international responsibilities;
Doing everything it can to obstruct , pandering to its hate filled, xenophobic and racist population.
It disgusts me beyond words.
But the UK has "Not answering the question you quote though. Guess it is easier to play the "racist xenophobe bigot" card | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. No you idiot; it's happening in the places where they come from originally But you couldn't care less as long as they aren't disturbing your lovely English insular life, and interfering with your enjoyment of hating the rest of the world . LOL, what's wrong touched a nerve?
You just admitted these things are not happening in France, so I ask again why can't they claim asylum in France?
Touch a nerve?
Yes; you are So full of hate.
So: Frsnce:
Yes; France is organized;
It is accepting refugees;
It's been doing do for some time ; properly and in a ordnance with international law.
the UK ( bring one of the causes of the problems in the first place) has been actively evading its international responsibilities;
Doing everything it can to obstruct , pandering to its hate filled, xenophobic and racist population.
It disgusts me beyond words.
But the UK has " | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. No you idiot; it's happening in the places where they come from originally But you couldn't care less as long as they aren't disturbing your lovely English insular life, and interfering with your enjoyment of hating the rest of the world . LOL, what's wrong touched a nerve?
You just admitted these things are not happening in France, so I ask again why can't they claim asylum in France?
Touch a nerve?
Yes; you are So full of hate.
So: Frsnce:
Yes; France is organized;
It is accepting refugees;
It's been doing do for some time ; properly and in a ordnance with international law.
the UK ( bring one of the causes of the problems in the first place) has been actively evading its international responsibilities;
Doing everything it can to obstruct , pandering to its hate filled, xenophobic and racist population.
It disgusts me beyond words.
But the UK has
Not answering the question you quote though.
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"This is why we make no progress, the brainwashed masses shouting "racist" or "bigot" at every opportunity. Those of us who live in the real world and can see how difficult it is for working class men and women to get jobs etc when illegals are working for less than the minimum wage. Those who are comfortably off money wise don't have to worry about making the ends meet. So they think they can tell us what we can and can't say, if they could they would make thoughts that are not PC a crime. Fuck em!" Bollocks | |||
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"This is why we make no progress, the brainwashed masses shouting "racist" or "bigot" at every opportunity. Those of us who live in the real world and can see how difficult it is for working class men and women to get jobs etc when illegals are working for less than the minimum wage. Those who are comfortably off money wise don't have to worry about making the ends meet. So they think they can tell us what we can and can't say, if they could they would make thoughts that are not PC a crime. Fuck em!" Illegals?, mainstream jobs rarely attract illegal immigrants, they are more often found in backstreet outfits, kitchens, and farms. The jobs you find in Jobcentres and government funded work placement centres don't attract illegal workers, so please don't give us all that nonsense about working class men and women missing out on employment due to illegal immigration, | |||
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"This is why we make no progress, the brainwashed masses shouting "racist" or "bigot" at every opportunity. Those of us who live in the real world and can see how difficult it is for working class men and women to get jobs etc when illegals are working for less than the minimum wage. Those who are comfortably off money wise don't have to worry about making the ends meet. So they think they can tell us what we can and can't say, if they could they would make thoughts that are not PC a crime. Fuck em! Bollocks " HA HA HA! | |||
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"Three businesses near where I work were raded recently, all we're hiring illegal immigrants. One of the businesses was a Shell petrol station." Yes...very small independent businesses, hardly large employers.....so no major impact on unemployment in this country, just another excuse for not getting a job for many. | |||
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"This is why we make no progress, the brainwashed masses shouting "racist" or "bigot" at every opportunity. Those of us who live in the real world and can see how difficult it is for working class men and women to get jobs etc when illegals are working for less than the minimum wage. Those who are comfortably off money wise don't have to worry about making the ends meet. So they think they can tell us what we can and can't say, if they could they would make thoughts that are not PC a crime. Fuck em! Bollocks HA HA HA!" Well, honestly, do you really believe that nonsense? Yes, I guess you do. Nothing like doing the old " downtrodden working man " thing. Fodder for the likes of Farage and Trump, and all the haters. | |||
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"This is why we make no progress, the brainwashed masses shouting "racist" or "bigot" at every opportunity. " That is right, hence why political correctness is killing the world, just because you believe what everyone really thinks about it, some dare to say it some dont. | |||
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"That was in a small village, God knows how many employers are hiring them in the big cities." If Asda open a new store near where you live, if TNT parcels open a new depot near where you live, if a BT call centre opens an office near where you live, if a new shopping Mall opens near where you live...... NONE of the above are likely to attract illegal workers, and they are the type of businesses that offer the best job opportunities for unemployed British people. A little petrol station or an Indian takeaway, or Farmer Giles cabbage farm in your area isn't a big impact on the job market | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. No you idiot; it's happening in the places where they come from originally But you couldn't care less as long as they aren't disturbing your lovely English insular life, and interfering with your enjoyment of hating the rest of the world . LOL, what's wrong touched a nerve?
You just admitted these things are not happening in France, so I ask again why can't they claim asylum in France?
Touch a nerve?
Yes; you are So full of hate.
So: Frsnce:
Yes; France is organized;
It is accepting refugees;
It's been doing do for some time ; properly and in a ordnance with international law.
the UK ( bring one of the causes of the problems in the first place) has been actively evading its international responsibilities;
Doing everything it can to obstruct , pandering to its hate filled, xenophobic and racist population.
It disgusts me beyond words.
But the UK has "France is organised??? Don't make me laugh. These people are living in squalid conditions in Calais. That is happening on French soil not British soil. France should accept these people as refugees or deport them if they refuse to claim asylum or they don't qualify. As for your claim about Britain being the cause of the problems, was it not France who helped in the bombing of Libya to get rid of Gaddafi? Many of these people are coming over the medditeranian sea on dingy's from Libya. Lastly Britain has done more than its fair share to help genuine refugees, taking refugees directly from the refugee camps in the middle east region. Britain is also the largest contributor of humanitarian aid funding in Europe and has given more money than France to the refugee camps in the region's affected. I'm afraid as usual you are talking out of your arse. | |||
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"What is the definition of refugee?" a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster. | |||
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"The numbers at Calais and even the numbers in Europe are an absolute drop in the ocean compared to actual refugee numbers around the world. And if you think those numbers are frightening, wait until the further effects of climate change really start to hit home in central Africa and the Middle East. The numbers of people moving now due to instability and wars is incomparable to those who will be doing so in 20 years or so. The great era of migration is only just beginning. Do you really believe we can just shut ourselves off, cover our ears and pretend that it's not happening forever?" Exactly, and then you hear the Brexitiers on here salivating at the thought of the Euro collapsing. If that happens it will make the situation much much more severe. | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x" Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. No you idiot; it's happening in the places where they come from originally But you couldn't care less as long as they aren't disturbing your lovely English insular life, and interfering with your enjoyment of hating the rest of the world . LOL, what's wrong touched a nerve?
You just admitted these things are not happening in France, so I ask again why can't they claim asylum in France?
Touch a nerve?
Yes; you are So full of hate.
So: Frsnce:
Yes; France is organized;
It is accepting refugees;
It's been doing do for some time ; properly and in a ordnance with international law.
the UK ( bring one of the causes of the problems in the first place) has been actively evading its international responsibilities;
Doing everything it can to obstruct , pandering to its hate filled, xenophobic and racist population.
It disgusts me beyond words.
But the UK has
France is organised??? Don't make me laugh. These people are living in squalid conditions in Calais. That is happening on French soil not British soil.
France should accept these people as refugees or deport them if they refuse to claim asylum or they don't qualify.
As for your claim about Britain being the cause of the problems, was it not France who helped in the bombing of Libya to get rid of Gaddafi? Many of these people are coming over the medditeranian sea on dingy's from Libya.
Lastly Britain has done more than its fair share to help genuine refugees, taking refugees directly from the refugee camps in the middle east region. Britain is also the largest contributor of humanitarian aid funding in Europe and has given more money than France to the refugee camps in the region's affected. I'm afraid as usual you are talking out of your arse. "And maybe he'd like to explain the rise in racist attacks in France, in particular against the Chinese? | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? " You're wasting your breath. Some people can't see beyond their own selfish views. It's very sad. | |||
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"What do the wankers on here think of the adults who are pretending to be children? Dare I say it was getting boring without you? I say, teenagers are still classed as children .... " Excuse my French, oh, French, wonder why it's called that? I really shouldn't post straight after the pub. I know teenagers are classed as children but what do you think of the men claiming to be children? | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. No you idiot; it's happening in the places where they come from originally But you couldn't care less as long as they aren't disturbing your lovely English insular life, and interfering with your enjoyment of hating the rest of the world . LOL, what's wrong touched a nerve?
You just admitted these things are not happening in France, so I ask again why can't they claim asylum in France?
Touch a nerve?
Yes; you are So full of hate.
So: Frsnce:
Yes; France is organized;
It is accepting refugees;
It's been doing do for some time ; properly and in a ordnance with international law.
the UK ( bring one of the causes of the problems in the first place) has been actively evading its international responsibilities;
Doing everything it can to obstruct , pandering to its hate filled, xenophobic and racist population.
It disgusts me beyond words.
But the UK has
France is organised??? Don't make me laugh. These people are living in squalid conditions in Calais. That is happening on French soil not British soil.
France should accept these people as refugees or deport them if they refuse to claim asylum or they don't qualify.
As for your claim about Britain being the cause of the problems, was it not France who helped in the bombing of Libya to get rid of Gaddafi? Many of these people are coming over the medditeranian sea on dingy's from Libya.
Lastly Britain has done more than its fair share to help genuine refugees, taking refugees directly from the refugee camps in the middle east region. Britain is also the largest contributor of humanitarian aid funding in Europe and has given more money than France to the refugee camps in the region's affected. I'm afraid as usual you are talking out of your arse. "Yes; France is organized; refugees are being taken and placed in society. Every department is taking in ( with good grace) refugees. In my own town, the council has found two unoccupied houses; renovated them, and housed families. Partially with central and local government funding; but the local electrician and plumber gave their services free. Children are arriving who will stay temporarily in a children's home while a form of fostering / guardianship arrangement is being arranged The British government deliberately obstructed the implementation of the Dubs amendment. That prevented the French authorities acting as they wished; eventually the British government had to be ordered to obey the international law. And the French simply got on with the plan they had. And now, because of its deliberate avoidance of their responsibilities, the entry of these people into UK has turned into a fucking shambles . With these kids locked up in a detention centre ( that had previously been closed since it was deemed to be in humane.) | |||
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"Monday 24th Oct 2016 will be a great day "Yes it will, my new car is being delivered..... | |||
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"Monday 24th Oct 2016 will be a great day
Yes it will, my new car is being delivered....."I get my bonus, 4 years in a row. Coincidently the day I did a Brexit into the continent 4 years ago. | |||
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"Monday 24th Oct 2016 will be a great day
Yes it will, my new car is being delivered....."Awesome. Love a new car. I'm due one soon. | |||
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"Monday 24th Oct 2016 will be a great day
Yes it will, my new car is being delivered.....
Awesome. Love a new car. I'm due one soon. "you better get back to work then laddy | |||
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"This is why we make no progress, the brainwashed masses shouting "racist" or "bigot" at every opportunity. Those of us who live in the real world and can see how difficult it is for working class men and women to get jobs etc when illegals are working for less than the minimum wage. Those who are comfortably off money wise don't have to worry about making the ends meet. So they think they can tell us what we can and can't say, if they could they would make thoughts that are not PC a crime. Fuck em!" To all of those who are trying to make being PC a crime, I certainly do live in the real world, struggle with money and dont blame the immigrants for it. I know the job situation in our local area and how it is for working class and those on benefit culture too .... its what I live with. Why assume the PC brigade don't have experience or knowledge. It's inverse snobbery. We've actually thought about it more ... and seen through the manipulation ... | |||
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"This is why we make no progress, the brainwashed masses shouting "racist" or "bigot" at every opportunity. Those of us who live in the real world and can see how difficult it is for working class men and women to get jobs etc when illegals are working for less than the minimum wage. Those who are comfortably off money wise don't have to worry about making the ends meet. So they think they can tell us what we can and can't say, if they could they would make thoughts that are not PC a crime. Fuck em! To all of those who are trying to make being PC a crime, I certainly do live in the real world, struggle with money and dont blame the immigrants for it. I know the job situation in our local area and how it is for working class and those on benefit culture too .... its what I live with. Why assume the PC brigade don't have experience or knowledge. It's inverse snobbery. We've actually thought about it more ... and seen through the manipulation ..." I thought with your career and family income you didn't struggle with money and could afford to live anywhere in the UK? | |||
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"This is why we make no progress, the brainwashed masses shouting "racist" or "bigot" at every opportunity. Those of us who live in the real world and can see how difficult it is for working class men and women to get jobs etc when illegals are working for less than the minimum wage. Those who are comfortably off money wise don't have to worry about making the ends meet. So they think they can tell us what we can and can't say, if they could they would make thoughts that are not PC a crime. Fuck em! To all of those who are trying to make being PC a crime, I certainly do live in the real world, struggle with money and dont blame the immigrants for it. I know the job situation in our local area and how it is for working class and those on benefit culture too .... its what I live with. Why assume the PC brigade don't have experience or knowledge. It's inverse snobbery. We've actually thought about it more ... and seen through the manipulation ... I thought with your career and family income you didn't struggle with money and could afford to live anywhere in the UK?" I live in the most expensive part of the UK, London. My career is one I can do in any part of the UK. I struggle to live here, financially, but anywhere else it would be much easier as everything is cheaper elsewhere .... also, I work with vulnerable families, those on the breading, immigrants and 'British' people in low paid jobs and on benefits. Does that explain it enough? My oldest has just gone to university 'up north' where we have our roots ... and its certainly much cheaper there. If we can afford to live here, no worries anywhere else ... | |||
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"This is why we make no progress, the brainwashed masses shouting "racist" or "bigot" at every opportunity. Those of us who live in the real world and can see how difficult it is for working class men and women to get jobs etc when illegals are working for less than the minimum wage. Those who are comfortably off money wise don't have to worry about making the ends meet. So they think they can tell us what we can and can't say, if they could they would make thoughts that are not PC a crime. Fuck em! To all of those who are trying to make being PC a crime, I certainly do live in the real world, struggle with money and dont blame the immigrants for it. I know the job situation in our local area and how it is for working class and those on benefit culture too .... its what I live with. Why assume the PC brigade don't have experience or knowledge. It's inverse snobbery. We've actually thought about it more ... and seen through the manipulation ... I thought with your career and family income you didn't struggle with money and could afford to live anywhere in the UK? I live in the most expensive part of the UK, London. My career is one I can do in any part of the UK. I struggle to live here, financially, but anywhere else it would be much easier as everything is cheaper elsewhere .... also, I work with vulnerable families, those on the breading, immigrants and 'British' people in low paid jobs and on benefits. Does that explain it enough? My oldest has just gone to university 'up north' where we have our roots ... and its certainly much cheaper there. If we can afford to live here, no worries anywhere else ..." fair enough. How do immigrants you're helping afford to live there? | |||
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"This is why we make no progress, the brainwashed masses shouting "racist" or "bigot" at every opportunity. Those of us who live in the real world and can see how difficult it is for working class men and women to get jobs etc when illegals are working for less than the minimum wage. Those who are comfortably off money wise don't have to worry about making the ends meet. So they think they can tell us what we can and can't say, if they could they would make thoughts that are not PC a crime. Fuck em! To all of those who are trying to make being PC a crime, I certainly do live in the real world, struggle with money and dont blame the immigrants for it. I know the job situation in our local area and how it is for working class and those on benefit culture too .... its what I live with. Why assume the PC brigade don't have experience or knowledge. It's inverse snobbery. We've actually thought about it more ... and seen through the manipulation ... I thought with your career and family income you didn't struggle with money and could afford to live anywhere in the UK? I live in the most expensive part of the UK, London. My career is one I can do in any part of the UK. I struggle to live here, financially, but anywhere else it would be much easier as everything is cheaper elsewhere .... also, I work with vulnerable families, those on the breading, immigrants and 'British' people in low paid jobs and on benefits. Does that explain it enough? My oldest has just gone to university 'up north' where we have our roots ... and its certainly much cheaper there. If we can afford to live here, no worries anywhere else ... fair enough. How do immigrants you're helping afford to live there?" By working. They aren't illegal. They are often well qualified and educated and not 'entitled' | |||
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"This is why we make no progress, the brainwashed masses shouting "racist" or "bigot" at every opportunity. Those of us who live in the real world and can see how difficult it is for working class men and women to get jobs etc when illegals are working for less than the minimum wage. Those who are comfortably off money wise don't have to worry about making the ends meet. So they think they can tell us what we can and can't say, if they could they would make thoughts that are not PC a crime. Fuck em! To all of those who are trying to make being PC a crime, I certainly do live in the real world, struggle with money and dont blame the immigrants for it. I know the job situation in our local area and how it is for working class and those on benefit culture too .... its what I live with. Why assume the PC brigade don't have experience or knowledge. It's inverse snobbery. We've actually thought about it more ... and seen through the manipulation ... I thought with your career and family income you didn't struggle with money and could afford to live anywhere in the UK? I live in the most expensive part of the UK, London. My career is one I can do in any part of the UK. I struggle to live here, financially, but anywhere else it would be much easier as everything is cheaper elsewhere .... also, I work with vulnerable families, those on the breading, immigrants and 'British' people in low paid jobs and on benefits. Does that explain it enough? My oldest has just gone to university 'up north' where we have our roots ... and its certainly much cheaper there. If we can afford to live here, no worries anywhere else ... fair enough. How do immigrants you're helping afford to live there? By working. They aren't illegal. They are often well qualified and educated and not 'entitled'" So why do they need your help? | |||
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"This is why we make no progress, the brainwashed masses shouting "racist" or "bigot" at every opportunity. Those of us who live in the real world and can see how difficult it is for working class men and women to get jobs etc when illegals are working for less than the minimum wage. Those who are comfortably off money wise don't have to worry about making the ends meet. So they think they can tell us what we can and can't say, if they could they would make thoughts that are not PC a crime. Fuck em! To all of those who are trying to make being PC a crime, I certainly do live in the real world, struggle with money and dont blame the immigrants for it. I know the job situation in our local area and how it is for working class and those on benefit culture too .... its what I live with. Why assume the PC brigade don't have experience or knowledge. It's inverse snobbery. We've actually thought about it more ... and seen through the manipulation ... I thought with your career and family income you didn't struggle with money and could afford to live anywhere in the UK? I live in the most expensive part of the UK, London. My career is one I can do in any part of the UK. I struggle to live here, financially, but anywhere else it would be much easier as everything is cheaper elsewhere .... also, I work with vulnerable families, those on the breading, immigrants and 'British' people in low paid jobs and on benefits. Does that explain it enough? My oldest has just gone to university 'up north' where we have our roots ... and its certainly much cheaper there. If we can afford to live here, no worries anywhere else ... fair enough. How do immigrants you're helping afford to live there? By working. They aren't illegal. They are often well qualified and educated and not 'entitled' So why do they need your help?" I don't disclose my job on here, sorry | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? " It's not genuine children people are objecting to though, it's the 70% of 'children' who have come here who then turned out to be adults (over the age of 18) once further tests were done to ascertain their real age. These 70% lied through their teeth about their age and pretended to be children in order to con and deceive their way into Britain. That is what people are objecting to. You should be objecting to these 70% of liars too as they are poisoning public opinion against migrants/refugees. | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? It's not genuine children people are objecting to though, it's the 70% of 'children' who have come here who then turned out to be adults (over the age of 18) once further tests were done to ascertain their real age. These 70% lied through their teeth about their age and pretended to be children in order to con and deceive their way into Britain. That is what people are objecting to. You should be objecting to these 70% of liars too as they are poisoning public opinion against migrants/refugees. " There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. I don't know how many times its going to take for you to understand that point. | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? It's not genuine children people are objecting to though, it's the 70% of 'children' who have come here who then turned out to be adults (over the age of 18) once further tests were done to ascertain their real age. These 70% lied through their teeth about their age and pretended to be children in order to con and deceive their way into Britain. That is what people are objecting to. You should be objecting to these 70% of liars too as they are poisoning public opinion against migrants/refugees. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. I don't know how many times its going to take for you to understand that point." This is correct to some extent as we have dealt with children who have arrived and to age them we have used bone density ... as they have no recollection. They are placed within and age range then | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? It's not genuine children people are objecting to though, it's the 70% of 'children' who have come here who then turned out to be adults (over the age of 18) once further tests were done to ascertain their real age. These 70% lied through their teeth about their age and pretended to be children in order to con and deceive their way into Britain. That is what people are objecting to. You should be objecting to these 70% of liars too as they are poisoning public opinion against migrants/refugees. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. I don't know how many times its going to take for you to understand that point. This is correct to some extent as we have dealt with children who have arrived and to age them we have used bone density ... as they have no recollection. They are placed within and age range then" Love the mangling of statistics . "70% turned out to be adults" No; 70% of the ones who were challenged because they looked too old, turned out to be adults. Which also means that 30% of those challenged were actually children. Not sure how many were challenged; but I understand it to be less than 1 in 10 | |||
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"I do find your 'personal responsibility' stand interesting though. How about if there are any refugees (that aren't rapists, murderers or terrorist) that aren't helped, that aren't given refuge, if they are killed or injured or a victim of a crime, should the people involved in the decision not to let them in also be prosecuted? Or maybe those inciting hatred of refugees like the newspaper editors, or maybe even forum posters, should they be prosecuted? They are not refugees. They became economic migrants the moment they left the first safe country they entered. Also as France is a safe country why can't they claim asylum there? " | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? It's not genuine children people are objecting to though, it's the 70% of 'children' who have come here who then turned out to be adults (over the age of 18) once further tests were done to ascertain their real age. These 70% lied through their teeth about their age and pretended to be children in order to con and deceive their way into Britain. That is what people are objecting to. You should be objecting to these 70% of liars too as they are poisoning public opinion against migrants/refugees. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. I don't know how many times its going to take for you to understand that point." it can be determined to within 3-4 years through DNA testing actually. There was talk of trying to determine ages by examining teeth but this was scrapped due to many of them wearing dentures | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? It's not genuine children people are objecting to though, it's the 70% of 'children' who have come here who then turned out to be adults (over the age of 18) once further tests were done to ascertain their real age. These 70% lied through their teeth about their age and pretended to be children in order to con and deceive their way into Britain. That is what people are objecting to. You should be objecting to these 70% of liars too as they are poisoning public opinion against migrants/refugees. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. I don't know how many times its going to take for you to understand that point. it can be determined to within 3-4 years through DNA testing actually. There was talk of trying to determine ages by examining teeth but this was scrapped due to many of them wearing dentures "That proves my point doesn't it? 3-4 years either side of an actual date would mean they could be 12 or 20. | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? It's not genuine children people are objecting to though, it's the 70% of 'children' who have come here who then turned out to be adults (over the age of 18) once further tests were done to ascertain their real age. These 70% lied through their teeth about their age and pretended to be children in order to con and deceive their way into Britain. That is what people are objecting to. You should be objecting to these 70% of liars too as they are poisoning public opinion against migrants/refugees. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. I don't know how many times its going to take for you to understand that point." If that is the case then we need to just use a bit of common sense and use the judgement of three independent people. We are potentially putting peoples lives at risk by allowing men in their twenties and early thirties to pretend to be children. If they have lied about their age , what else have they lied about ? . | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? It's not genuine children people are objecting to though, it's the 70% of 'children' who have come here who then turned out to be adults (over the age of 18) once further tests were done to ascertain their real age. These 70% lied through their teeth about their age and pretended to be children in order to con and deceive their way into Britain. That is what people are objecting to. You should be objecting to these 70% of liars too as they are poisoning public opinion against migrants/refugees. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. I don't know how many times its going to take for you to understand that point. it can be determined to within 3-4 years through DNA testing actually. There was talk of trying to determine ages by examining teeth but this was scrapped due to many of them wearing dentures
That proves my point doesn't it? 3-4 years either side of an actual date would mean they could be 12 or 20."And if the DNA test shows they are 22 or older then it means they definitely lied. | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? It's not genuine children people are objecting to though, it's the 70% of 'children' who have come here who then turned out to be adults (over the age of 18) once further tests were done to ascertain their real age. These 70% lied through their teeth about their age and pretended to be children in order to con and deceive their way into Britain. That is what people are objecting to. You should be objecting to these 70% of liars too as they are poisoning public opinion against migrants/refugees. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. I don't know how many times its going to take for you to understand that point. it can be determined to within 3-4 years through DNA testing actually. There was talk of trying to determine ages by examining teeth but this was scrapped due to many of them wearing dentures
That proves my point doesn't it? 3-4 years either side of an actual date would mean they could be 12 or 20."and whats wrong with that? It is more accurate though with younger people | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? It's not genuine children people are objecting to though, it's the 70% of 'children' who have come here who then turned out to be adults (over the age of 18) once further tests were done to ascertain their real age. These 70% lied through their teeth about their age and pretended to be children in order to con and deceive their way into Britain. That is what people are objecting to. You should be objecting to these 70% of liars too as they are poisoning public opinion against migrants/refugees. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. I don't know how many times its going to take for you to understand that point. it can be determined to within 3-4 years through DNA testing actually. There was talk of trying to determine ages by examining teeth but this was scrapped due to many of them wearing dentures
That proves my point doesn't it? 3-4 years either side of an actual date would mean they could be 12 or 20.
And if the DNA test shows they are 22 or older then it means they definitely lied. "Quite right, and 3-4 years cannot possibly mean the difference between 12 and 20. Somebody is shit at maths! | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? It's not genuine children people are objecting to though, it's the 70% of 'children' who have come here who then turned out to be adults (over the age of 18) once further tests were done to ascertain their real age. These 70% lied through their teeth about their age and pretended to be children in order to con and deceive their way into Britain. That is what people are objecting to. You should be objecting to these 70% of liars too as they are poisoning public opinion against migrants/refugees. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. I don't know how many times its going to take for you to understand that point. it can be determined to within 3-4 years through DNA testing actually. There was talk of trying to determine ages by examining teeth but this was scrapped due to many of them wearing dentures
That proves my point doesn't it? 3-4 years either side of an actual date would mean they could be 12 or 20.
And if the DNA test shows they are 22 or older then it means they definitely lied.
Quite right, and 3-4 years cannot possibly mean the difference between 12 and 20. Somebody is shit at maths! "I'm just using the numbers that CandM gave. If someone is actually 16, and the test is accurate to within 4 years, the test could show them as young as 12, or as old as 20. | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? It's not genuine children people are objecting to though, it's the 70% of 'children' who have come here who then turned out to be adults (over the age of 18) once further tests were done to ascertain their real age. These 70% lied through their teeth about their age and pretended to be children in order to con and deceive their way into Britain. That is what people are objecting to. You should be objecting to these 70% of liars too as they are poisoning public opinion against migrants/refugees. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. I don't know how many times its going to take for you to understand that point. it can be determined to within 3-4 years through DNA testing actually. There was talk of trying to determine ages by examining teeth but this was scrapped due to many of them wearing dentures
That proves my point doesn't it? 3-4 years either side of an actual date would mean they could be 12 or 20.
and whats wrong with that? It is more accurate though with younger people"What's wrong with that? Well what if your test shows someone as 21, would you say that they could be 17 and let them come, or would you say they could be 25 and not let them? | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? It's not genuine children people are objecting to though, it's the 70% of 'children' who have come here who then turned out to be adults (over the age of 18) once further tests were done to ascertain their real age. These 70% lied through their teeth about their age and pretended to be children in order to con and deceive their way into Britain. That is what people are objecting to. You should be objecting to these 70% of liars too as they are poisoning public opinion against migrants/refugees. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. I don't know how many times its going to take for you to understand that point. it can be determined to within 3-4 years through DNA testing actually. There was talk of trying to determine ages by examining teeth but this was scrapped due to many of them wearing dentures
That proves my point doesn't it? 3-4 years either side of an actual date would mean they could be 12 or 20.
and whats wrong with that? It is more accurate though with younger people"DNA tests cannot safely determine age within less than 3-4 years. Let's kill this propagandists fest about "70% of children turning out to be adults." It's 70% of those challenged because they liked old that were correctly identified as not children. The propagandists are trying to imply it's 70% of all those " children". It is not. But They will say " we never said that" when challenged; knowing full well that the average man in the street who can't comprehend much will just hear "70% of children". Sadly, because the majority of people are stupid, these tactics in inciting hatred work. | |||
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"I suppose it,s partly our fault. If we wern't involved in fuelling wars in the middle east there wouldn't be there. At least not in the numbers seen. As stated, remember the conditions these people are in and what they went through.. And the things you take for granted.. Dental treatment, food. Clean water etc. And more basic stuff like not being lined up in your yard and shot; or having your wife and kids thrown down a well, followed by a hand grenade That's not happening in France where these people are now though is it. And this is why most people are pissed off at those who take the piss out of us. They are safe in France. As safe as they are n the UK x Until yesterday, all of the children taken from Calais had family in the UK that they were being reunited with. So thats why they are coming from France, to be reunited with their families. This is a right they have that is recognised in international law. Yesterday the first group of 54 girls from Eritrea were brought to the UK. You might think its acceptable for unaccompanied vulnerable child refugees to live in somewhere like the Calais jungle, but many people don't. For all of you who have children who think we shouldn't take them, try to imagine your children living there, would you be happy? If you dont have children of your own imagine nieces and nephews, the children of your friends, or even a group of children from one of your local schools being forced to live in the camp. Would you be happy for them to be alone in the Calais jungle? It's not genuine children people are objecting to though, it's the 70% of 'children' who have come here who then turned out to be adults (over the age of 18) once further tests were done to ascertain their real age. These 70% lied through their teeth about their age and pretended to be children in order to con and deceive their way into Britain. That is what people are objecting to. You should be objecting to these 70% of liars too as they are poisoning public opinion against migrants/refugees. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. There are no definitive scientific tests to determine age. I don't know how many times its going to take for you to understand that point. it can be determined to within 3-4 years through DNA testing actually. There was talk of trying to determine ages by examining teeth but this was scrapped due to many of them wearing dentures
That proves my point doesn't it? 3-4 years either side of an actual date would mean they could be 12 or 20.
and whats wrong with that? It is more accurate though with younger people
DNA tests cannot safely determine age within less than 3-4 years.
Let's kill this propagandists fest about "70% of children turning out to be adults."
It's 70% of those challenged because they liked old that were correctly identified as not children.
The propagandists are trying to imply it's 70% of all those " children".
It is not.
But They will say " we never said that" when challenged; knowing full well that the average man in the street who can't comprehend much will just hear "70% of children".
Sadly, because the majority of people are stupid, these tactics in inciting hatred work.
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" It's 70% of those challenged because they liked old that were correctly identified as not children. The propagandists are trying to imply it's 70% of all those " children". It is not. But They will say " we never said that" when challenged; knowing full well that the average man in the street who can't comprehend much will just hear "70% of children". Sadly, because the majority of people are stupid, these tactics in inciting hatred work. " Assumming you are right in the figures you quote, why is it it inciting hatred by saying we should be more careful in letting in only genuine children ? I think the number of people who would want to keep out young children would be very low however most would be concerned about letting in 20 yr old males with unknown intensions | |||
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" It's 70% of those challenged because they liked old that were correctly identified as not children. The propagandists are trying to imply it's 70% of all those " children". It is not. But They will say " we never said that" when challenged; knowing full well that the average man in the street who can't comprehend much will just hear "70% of children". Sadly, because the majority of people are stupid, these tactics in inciting hatred work. Assumming you are right in the figures you quote, why is it it inciting hatred by saying we should be more careful in letting in only genuine children ? I think the number of people who would want to keep out young children would be very low however most would be concerned about letting in 20 yr old males with unknown intensions " The 20 year old is still a refugee though. Their intentions are not to be killed or persecuted. | |||
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" It's 70% of those challenged because they liked old that were correctly identified as not children. The propagandists are trying to imply it's 70% of all those " children". It is not. But They will say " we never said that" when challenged; knowing full well that the average man in the street who can't comprehend much will just hear "70% of children". Sadly, because the majority of people are stupid, these tactics in inciting hatred work. Assumming you are right in the figures you quote, why is it it inciting hatred by saying we should be more careful in letting in only genuine children ? I think the number of people who would want to keep out young children would be very low however most would be concerned about letting in 20 yr old males with unknown intensions The 20 year old is still a refugee though. Their intentions are not to be killed or persecuted. " They by international law have to claim assylum in the first SAFE country they enter so no they are not refugees. | |||
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" It's 70% of those challenged because they liked old that were correctly identified as not children. The propagandists are trying to imply it's 70% of all those " children". It is not. But They will say " we never said that" when challenged; knowing full well that the average man in the street who can't comprehend much will just hear "70% of children". Sadly, because the majority of people are stupid, these tactics in inciting hatred work. Assumming you are right in the figures you quote, why is it it inciting hatred by saying we should be more careful in letting in only genuine children ? I think the number of people who would want to keep out young children would be very low however most would be concerned about letting in 20 yr old males with unknown intensions The 20 year old is still a refugee though. Their intentions are not to be killed or persecuted. " They won't be killed or persecuted in France though will they, which is where they are now but they refuse to claim asylum there? They also could've claimed asylum in any number of other safe countries on their way to France.....but they chose not to? Also it's well documented that those young men who carried out the terrorist attacks in Paris last year had travelled to France from Syria posing as refugees. With isis saying they intend to smuggle their operatives into Europe posing as refugees No one knows what the intentions are of all of these individuals. | |||
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" It's 70% of those challenged because they liked old that were correctly identified as not children. The propagandists are trying to imply it's 70% of all those " children". It is not. But They will say " we never said that" when challenged; knowing full well that the average man in the street who can't comprehend much will just hear "70% of children". Sadly, because the majority of people are stupid, these tactics in inciting hatred work. Assumming you are right in the figures you quote, why is it it inciting hatred by saying we should be more careful in letting in only genuine children ? I think the number of people who would want to keep out young children would be very low however most would be concerned about letting in 20 yr old males with unknown intensions The 20 year old is still a refugee though. Their intentions are not to be killed or persecuted. They won't be killed or persecuted in France though will they, which is where they are now but they refuse to claim asylum there? They also could've claimed asylum in any number of other safe countries on their way to France.....but they chose not to? Also it's well documented that those young men who carried out the terrorist attacks in Paris last year had travelled to France from Syria posing as refugees. With isis saying they intend to smuggle their operatives into Europe posing as refugees No one knows what the intentions are of all of these individuals. " This claim about the first safe country is often made, but I have previously posted links to the UN convention concerning refugees and asked people to tell me which section of the convention says that, so far no one has been able to, yet they keep on repeating the same lies. | |||
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