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"Apparently Donald didn't do his walk through of the debate venue. I wonder what the hell he is planning "well apparently the trump said that something was planned... which is why the clinton camp have now said no handshakes at all pre debate... either the candidates or the families... we will see if having Mark Cuban and Meg Whitman in the front row will put off the donald..... because she can point at them and warren buffet and say that some properly rich people don't avoid paying their taxes..... | |||
"Apparently Donald didn't do his walk through of the debate venue. I wonder what the hell he is planning
well apparently the trump said that something was planned... which is why the clinton camp have now said no handshakes at all pre debate... either the candidates or the families...
we will see if having Mark Cuban and Meg Whitman in the front row will put off the donald.....
because she can point at them and warren buffet and say that some properly rich people don't avoid paying their taxes....."Are you staying up to watch it, Fabio? | |||
" Are you staying up to watch it, Fabio? " probably not... but i am going to listen to the MSNBC preshow till i drift off... then i am sky plusing CNN from midnight till 6am... dedication!!! lol the other good thing is that CNN also do the debate in podcast form... so i'll download it before i drive to work, and i'll listen to it on the commute!!!! all avenues covered me!!! lol | |||
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"Trump is on top form this time round, he wins hand down on this debate " You think?, might pick up a bit of the Hispanic vote threatening to kick out the bad hombres, wait till the drugs kick in and he starts speeding up. | |||
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"Trump is on top form this time round, he wins hand down on this debate If Clinton loses, she is going to have to watch her ass for previous corruption, its not just her E-mails she is going to try and hide/delete" 
We were clearly watching different debates. Clinton won by a mile. | |||
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"Trump is on top form this time round, he wins hand down on this debate If Clinton loses, she is going to have to watch her ass for previous corruption, its not just her E-mails she is going to try and hide/delete
We were clearly watching different debates. Clinton won by a mile. "I think lots of people must be watching different debates. cnn and couple other clinton biased networks had her come out on top..where as polls on fox and twitter had trump coming out on top. my personal opinion was trump won the debate. how can somone who should be in jail (based on facts not allegations) even be running for president anyways. the fact shes blaming russia for everything and anything and her emails getting into wiki leaks hands when asked about her open borders policy with no proof what so ever, she is determined to end up going to war with russia. Whilst trump openly says he wants to work with russia to rid isis and inprove overall relations means regardless of local policys trump should win the election for that reason alone. its not only america that will suffer if hillary wins...its the whole world. And im sick to death of wars and our western goverments meddling in the middle east. Which created most of the terrorists we have today. trump for change (may be change for the better or may not) Hillary for more wars and potentially ww3 only one person should be elected in my eyes. I guess we will see soon enough. | |||
"Trump is on top form this time round, he wins hand down on this debate If Clinton loses, she is going to have to watch her ass for previous corruption, its not just her E-mails she is going to try and hide/delete
We were clearly watching different debates. Clinton won by a mile.
I think lots of people must be watching different debates.
cnn and couple other clinton biased networks had her come out on top..where as polls on fox and twitter had trump coming out on top.
my personal opinion was trump won the debate.
how can somone who should be in jail (based on facts not allegations) even be running for president anyways.
the fact shes blaming russia for everything and anything and her emails getting into wiki leaks hands when asked about her open borders policy with no proof what so ever, she is determined to end up going to war with russia.
Whilst trump openly says he wants to work with russia to rid isis and inprove overall relations means regardless of local policys trump should win the election for that reason alone.
its not only america that will suffer if hillary wins...its the whole world.
And im sick to death of wars and our western goverments meddling in the middle east.
Which created most of the terrorists we have today.
trump for change (may be change for the better or may not)
Hillary for more wars and potentially ww3
only one person should be elected in my eyes.
I guess we will see soon enough. "I think we both watched same debate and I agree with what you are saying I also like that he intends to have Saudi Arabia forking up billions of $ | |||
"Trump is on top form this time round, he wins hand down on this debate If Clinton loses, she is going to have to watch her ass for previous corruption, its not just her E-mails she is going to try and hide/delete
We were clearly watching different debates. Clinton won by a mile.
I think lots of people must be watching different debates.
cnn and couple other clinton biased networks had her come out on top..where as polls on fox and twitter had trump coming out on top.
my personal opinion was trump won the debate.
how can somone who should be in jail (based on facts not allegations) even be running for president anyways.
the fact shes blaming russia for everything and anything and her emails getting into wiki leaks hands when asked about her open borders policy with no proof what so ever, she is determined to end up going to war with russia.
Whilst trump openly says he wants to work with russia to rid isis and inprove overall relations means regardless of local policys trump should win the election for that reason alone.
its not only america that will suffer if hillary wins...its the whole world.
And im sick to death of wars and our western goverments meddling in the middle east.
Which created most of the terrorists we have today.
trump for change (may be change for the better or may not)
Hillary for more wars and potentially ww3
only one person should be elected in my eyes.
I guess we will see soon enough. "That is a completely biased _iew not only of the debate, but of the election in general. CNN/ORC ran a poll of people who watched the debate and Clinton won by a 13 point margin. 13 points. That isn't insignificant. And we can sit here and argue perception all day, but it's all meaningless without number because we would each just say that our candidates won. When presented with numbers, I hear the same cry that Donald's supporters have made their oath - that it's all rigged by the mainstream media. How ridiculous. CNN is not a Clinton organization and ORC certainly isn't. According to people who watched the debate, Clinton won. We can wait and see what other polls say as well. Did Donald have a strong performance? My answer to that is that he had a stronger performance than he did in his other two debates, but that isn't saying much to be honest. He simply isn't a good debater. He is good at soundbites but when it comes to substantive policy, he lacks knowledge and experience. And I don't expect him to have that knowledge and experience, because he is a businessman, not a politician. It's also why he shouldn't be president. As for your arguments against Clinton and in favor of Trump, they are based on no evidence that I can find. Trump is more of a hawk than Clinton is, and that takes a lot of effort. She isn't my first choice by a long shot, but she wins hands down over Trump. But as to who won the debate, I say look to the polls. I have a vote in this election, and it's going to Hillary. | |||
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"Trump is on top form this time round, he wins hand down on this debate If Clinton loses, she is going to have to watch her ass for previous corruption, its not just her E-mails she is going to try and hide/delete
We were clearly watching different debates. Clinton won by a mile.
I think lots of people must be watching different debates.
cnn and couple other clinton biased networks had her come out on top..where as polls on fox and twitter had trump coming out on top.
my personal opinion was trump won the debate.
how can somone who should be in jail (based on facts not allegations) even be running for president anyways.
the fact shes blaming russia for everything and anything and her emails getting into wiki leaks hands when asked about her open borders policy with no proof what so ever, she is determined to end up going to war with russia.
Whilst trump openly says he wants to work with russia to rid isis and inprove overall relations means regardless of local policys trump should win the election for that reason alone.
its not only america that will suffer if hillary wins...its the whole world.
And im sick to death of wars and our western goverments meddling in the middle east.
Which created most of the terrorists we have today.
trump for change (may be change for the better or may not)
Hillary for more wars and potentially ww3
only one person should be elected in my eyes.
I guess we will see soon enough.
That is a completely biased _iew not only of the debate, but of the election in general.
CNN/ORC ran a poll of people who watched the debate and Clinton won by a 13 point margin. 13 points. That isn't insignificant. And we can sit here and argue perception all day, but it's all meaningless without number because we would each just say that our candidates won. When presented with numbers, I hear the same cry that Donald's supporters have made their oath - that it's all rigged by the mainstream media. How ridiculous. CNN is not a Clinton organization and ORC certainly isn't. According to people who watched the debate, Clinton won. We can wait and see what other polls say as well.
Did Donald have a strong performance? My answer to that is that he had a stronger performance than he did in his other two debates, but that isn't saying much to be honest. He simply isn't a good debater. He is good at soundbites but when it comes to substantive policy, he lacks knowledge and experience. And I don't expect him to have that knowledge and experience, because he is a businessman, not a politician. It's also why he shouldn't be president.
As for your arguments against Clinton and in favor of Trump, they are based on no evidence that I can find. Trump is more of a hawk than Clinton is, and that takes a lot of effort. She isn't my first choice by a long shot, but she wins hands down over Trump.
But as to who won the debate, I say look to the polls.
I have a vote in this election, and it's going to Hillary. "we shall have to agree to disagree. ive watch a fair bit of cnn and their reporting has been all biased towards hillary and against trump so that 13 point lead from cnn polls can be taken with a pinch of salt and as for no evidance about hillary not liking russia and more likely to end up in a conflict with them, shes been part of the goverment thats been putting missile systems all around russias borders and in the last month alone is blaming russia for pretty much everything she can. trump has opening said he will build relations with russia. these are facts. She discussed top classified information in her emails with people she shouldnt. pretty sure bradly manning is in jail for that. edward snowdon had to leave the country for fear of prison for exposing govements classified information. so tell me why shouldnt hillary be in prison for doing the same thing? | |||
"Trump is on top form this time round, he wins hand down on this debate If Clinton loses, she is going to have to watch her ass for previous corruption, its not just her E-mails she is going to try and hide/delete
We were clearly watching different debates. Clinton won by a mile.
I think lots of people must be watching different debates.
cnn and couple other clinton biased networks had her come out on top..where as polls on fox and twitter had trump coming out on top.
my personal opinion was trump won the debate.
how can somone who should be in jail (based on facts not allegations) even be running for president anyways.
the fact shes blaming russia for everything and anything and her emails getting into wiki leaks hands when asked about her open borders policy with no proof what so ever, she is determined to end up going to war with russia.
Whilst trump openly says he wants to work with russia to rid isis and inprove overall relations means regardless of local policys trump should win the election for that reason alone.
its not only america that will suffer if hillary wins...its the whole world.
And im sick to death of wars and our western goverments meddling in the middle east.
Which created most of the terrorists we have today.
trump for change (may be change for the better or may not)
Hillary for more wars and potentially ww3
only one person should be elected in my eyes.
I guess we will see soon enough.
That is a completely biased _iew not only of the debate, but of the election in general.
CNN/ORC ran a poll of people who watched the debate and Clinton won by a 13 point margin. 13 points. That isn't insignificant. And we can sit here and argue perception all day, but it's all meaningless without number because we would each just say that our candidates won. When presented with numbers, I hear the same cry that Donald's supporters have made their oath - that it's all rigged by the mainstream media. How ridiculous. CNN is not a Clinton organization and ORC certainly isn't. According to people who watched the debate, Clinton won. We can wait and see what other polls say as well.
Did Donald have a strong performance? My answer to that is that he had a stronger performance than he did in his other two debates, but that isn't saying much to be honest. He simply isn't a good debater. He is good at soundbites but when it comes to substantive policy, he lacks knowledge and experience. And I don't expect him to have that knowledge and experience, because he is a businessman, not a politician. It's also why he shouldn't be president.
As for your arguments against Clinton and in favor of Trump, they are based on no evidence that I can find. Trump is more of a hawk than Clinton is, and that takes a lot of effort. She isn't my first choice by a long shot, but she wins hands down over Trump.
But as to who won the debate, I say look to the polls.
I have a vote in this election, and it's going to Hillary.
we shall have to agree to disagree.
ive watch a fair bit of cnn and their reporting has been all biased towards hillary and against trump so that 13 point lead from cnn polls can be taken with a pinch of salt and as for no evidance about hillary not liking russia and more likely to end up in a conflict with them, shes been part of the goverment thats been putting missile systems all around russias borders and in the last month alone is blaming russia for pretty much everything she can.
trump has opening said he will build relations with russia.
these are facts.
She discussed top classified information in her emails with people she shouldnt.
pretty sure bradly manning is in jail for that.
edward snowdon had to leave the country for fear of prison for exposing govements classified information.
so tell me why shouldnt hillary be in prison for doing the same thing?"I don't like how hawkish Clinton is. I protested against her in NYC when she voted for the Iraq war. A war that Trump was in favor of, I'll remind you. But Russia isn't the only military issue here. Trump has stated time and again that he would act more aggresively towards China, Mexico, the middle east, etc. He says whatever he thinks will get angry Americans on his side at any given moment. He just doesn't have clear plans the same way Clinton does (because we don't want to tell them our strategy, of course...sure), so it's harder to pin him down on his militancy. But militant he most certainly is. As for the emails, Hillary shouldn't have used a personal email server. That's true. An investigation into the matter by the FBI has shown that she did not act criminally. The FBI said that the practices she was engaged in were commonplace among government officials and that government departments needed to alter how they address these issues. Tell me something....why isn't Trump in jail for his alleged rape of his first wife? Oh, right, because he paid her off and made her sign a nondisclosure agreement. How about when he was charged with sexually assaulting that other woman 20 years ago? Right, he paid her off as well. How about when he didn't pay that builder who worked on one of his trump properties? Sorry, trump burried him in legal battles, I almost forgot. The list is endless. Trump talking about putting Hillary in jail for criminal misconduct is almost as hypocritical as him berating Bill Clinton for his sexual misconduct. | |||
"Trump is on top form this time round, he wins hand down on this debate If Clinton loses, she is going to have to watch her ass for previous corruption, its not just her E-mails she is going to try and hide/delete
We were clearly watching different debates. Clinton won by a mile.
I think lots of people must be watching different debates.
cnn and couple other clinton biased networks had her come out on top..where as polls on fox and twitter had trump coming out on top.
my personal opinion was trump won the debate.
how can somone who should be in jail (based on facts not allegations) even be running for president anyways.
the fact shes blaming russia for everything and anything and her emails getting into wiki leaks hands when asked about her open borders policy with no proof what so ever, she is determined to end up going to war with russia.
Whilst trump openly says he wants to work with russia to rid isis and inprove overall relations means regardless of local policys trump should win the election for that reason alone.
its not only america that will suffer if hillary wins...its the whole world.
And im sick to death of wars and our western goverments meddling in the middle east.
Which created most of the terrorists we have today.
trump for change (may be change for the better or may not)
Hillary for more wars and potentially ww3
only one person should be elected in my eyes.
I guess we will see soon enough.
That is a completely biased _iew not only of the debate, but of the election in general.
CNN/ORC ran a poll of people who watched the debate and Clinton won by a 13 point margin. 13 points. That isn't insignificant. And we can sit here and argue perception all day, but it's all meaningless without number because we would each just say that our candidates won. When presented with numbers, I hear the same cry that Donald's supporters have made their oath - that it's all rigged by the mainstream media. How ridiculous. CNN is not a Clinton organization and ORC certainly isn't. According to people who watched the debate, Clinton won. We can wait and see what other polls say as well.
Did Donald have a strong performance? My answer to that is that he had a stronger performance than he did in his other two debates, but that isn't saying much to be honest. He simply isn't a good debater. He is good at soundbites but when it comes to substantive policy, he lacks knowledge and experience. And I don't expect him to have that knowledge and experience, because he is a businessman, not a politician. It's also why he shouldn't be president.
As for your arguments against Clinton and in favor of Trump, they are based on no evidence that I can find. Trump is more of a hawk than Clinton is, and that takes a lot of effort. She isn't my first choice by a long shot, but she wins hands down over Trump.
But as to who won the debate, I say look to the polls.
I have a vote in this election, and it's going to Hillary.
we shall have to agree to disagree.
ive watch a fair bit of cnn and their reporting has been all biased towards hillary and against trump so that 13 point lead from cnn polls can be taken with a pinch of salt and as for no evidance about hillary not liking russia and more likely to end up in a conflict with them, shes been part of the goverment thats been putting missile systems all around russias borders and in the last month alone is blaming russia for pretty much everything she can.
trump has opening said he will build relations with russia.
these are facts.
She discussed top classified information in her emails with people she shouldnt.
pretty sure bradly manning is in jail for that.
edward snowdon had to leave the country for fear of prison for exposing govements classified information.
so tell me why shouldnt hillary be in prison for doing the same thing?
I don't like how hawkish Clinton is. I protested against her in NYC when she voted for the Iraq war. A war that Trump was in favor of, I'll remind you. But Russia isn't the only military issue here. Trump has stated time and again that he would act more aggresively towards China, Mexico, the middle east, etc. He says whatever he thinks will get angry Americans on his side at any given moment. He just doesn't have clear plans the same way Clinton does (because we don't want to tell them our strategy, of course...sure), so it's harder to pin him down on his militancy. But militant he most certainly is.
As for the emails, Hillary shouldn't have used a personal email server. That's true. An investigation into the matter by the FBI has shown that she did not act criminally. The FBI said that the practices she was engaged in were commonplace among government officials and that government departments needed to alter how they address these issues.
Tell me something....why isn't Trump in jail for his alleged rape of his first wife? Oh, right, because he paid her off and made her sign a nondisclosure agreement. How about when he was charged with sexually assaulting that other woman 20 years ago? Right, he paid her off as well. How about when he didn't pay that builder who worked on one of his trump properties? Sorry, trump burried him in legal battles, I almost forgot. The list is endless. Trump talking about putting Hillary in jail for criminal misconduct is almost as hypocritical as him berating Bill Clinton for his sexual misconduct."if only it was bernie sanders up there or even ron paul (I thought he spoke tremendous sense in last president election). Anyways I think we can both agree that the 2 candidates up there America deserves. | |||
"if only it was bernie sanders up there or even ron paul (I thought he spoke tremendous sense in last president election)." And we can end our discussion agreeing on something at least!!
Good debate, sir. | |||
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"........ Trump's appeal to the voters lies in the fact that he appears to offer simple solutions to what are in fact very complex questions with no simple solution..... " Trumpism and UKIPism - the same thing | |||
"........ Trump's appeal to the voters lies in the fact that he appears to offer simple solutions to what are in fact very complex questions with no simple solution..... Trumpism and UKIPism - the same thing " Trumpism and Remainism - the same thing | |||
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"the other person who has a really good night.... take a bow Chris Wallace.... fantastic moderating, came after both of them and hard! and also did a great job of on the fly factchecking as well!!!"
Agreed. Some of the best moderating I've seen in the past 3 elections cycles. | |||
"the other person who has a really good night.... take a bow Chris Wallace.... fantastic moderating, came after both of them and hard! and also did a great job of on the fly factchecking as well!!!
Agreed. Some of the best moderating I've seen in the past 3 elections cycles. ". Did he do the break it up break it up.... Ok touch gloves and get back to it.... And quit with the low blows | |||
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"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BJjUv_TD2E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzcjexXZ6yg" I had seen those. Awesome  | |||
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BJjUv_TD2E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzcjexXZ6yg I had seen those. Awesome "I thought this forum might need something to lighten the discourse. Plus, it's how I'm going to remember the debates. | |||
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BJjUv_TD2E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzcjexXZ6yg I had seen those. Awesome
I thought this forum might need something to lighten the discourse. Plus, it's how I'm going to remember the debates.
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"........ Trump's appeal to the voters lies in the fact that he appears to offer simple solutions to what are in fact very complex questions with no simple solution..... Trumpism and UKIPism - the same thing Trumpism and Remainism - the same thing" I'm not sure even Nigel and Donald would agree with you on that. And there are a lot of similarities in what they say Tump - America first Farage - Britain first Trump - Make America great again Farage - Put the great back in Great Britain Trump - NAFTA is allowing American jobs to be exported to Mexico Farage - The EU is allowing British jobs to be exported to Eastern Europe. Trump - Immigrants are undercutting Americans for jobs Farage - EU migrants are undercutting British people in the jobs market. And many more. They both also even sing the praises of Putin (AKA - Uncle Dobby, Vlad the Dictator) Apart from Nigel not looking any where near as crazy as Donald, there is hardly a hair's breath between them. | |||
"The Fox News employers will be in a quandary about chris Wallace. He has enhanced their rather appalling standing in the media with his excellent performance so they should now get the gig every election now. " Just because a TV station has a bias it doesn't mean it's always biased. Try watching RT, it's often bias towards the Russian outlook but also has some quite good unbiased programs on. | |||
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"Nothing wrong with Trump, im staying at his hotel in Turnberry next week, will be nice to see how much of a difference he has made as it was previously a bit of a dump. He may make a good difference to the usa aswell once he is voted in by 50 or 60 million" And this sort off proves my point. It seems to me that it must be more than just coincidence that Brexit supporters also seem to like Trump. Maybe that's because they say pretty much the same thing. | |||
"........ Trump's appeal to the voters lies in the fact that he appears to offer simple solutions to what are in fact very complex questions with no simple solution..... Trumpism and UKIPism - the same thing Trumpism and Remainism - the same thing I'm not sure even Nigel and Donald would agree with you on that. And there are a lot of similarities in what they say Tump - America first Farage - Britain first Trump - Make America great again Farage - Put the great back in Great Britain Trump - NAFTA is allowing American jobs to be exported to Mexico Farage - The EU is allowing British jobs to be exported to Eastern Europe. Trump - Immigrants are undercutting Americans for jobs Farage - EU migrants are undercutting British people in the jobs market. And many more. They both also even sing the praises of Putin (AKA - Uncle Dobby, Vlad the Dictator) Apart from Nigel not looking any where near as crazy as Donald, there is hardly a hair's breath between them. " Yes, they are both great men! | |||
"........ Trump's appeal to the voters lies in the fact that he appears to offer simple solutions to what are in fact very complex questions with no simple solution..... Trumpism and UKIPism - the same thing Trumpism and Remainism - the same thing I'm not sure even Nigel and Donald would agree with you on that. And there are a lot of similarities in what they say Tump - America first Farage - Britain first Trump - Make America great again Farage - Put the great back in Great Britain Trump - NAFTA is allowing American jobs to be exported to Mexico Farage - The EU is allowing British jobs to be exported to Eastern Europe. Trump - Immigrants are undercutting Americans for jobs Farage - EU migrants are undercutting British people in the jobs market. And many more. They both also even sing the praises of Putin (AKA - Uncle Dobby, Vlad the Dictator) Apart from Nigel not looking any where near as crazy as Donald, there is hardly a hair's breath between them. " Trump -America first Remain - Europe first Trump - Make America great again Remain - Make the EU great again Blah, blah. | |||
"........ Trump's appeal to the voters lies in the fact that he appears to offer simple solutions to what are in fact very complex questions with no simple solution..... Trumpism and UKIPism - the same thing Trumpism and Remainism - the same thing I'm not sure even Nigel and Donald would agree with you on that. And there are a lot of similarities in what they say Tump - America first Farage - Britain first Trump - Make America great again Farage - Put the great back in Great Britain Trump - NAFTA is allowing American jobs to be exported to Mexico Farage - The EU is allowing British jobs to be exported to Eastern Europe. Trump - Immigrants are undercutting Americans for jobs Farage - EU migrants are undercutting British people in the jobs market. And many more. They both also even sing the praises of Putin (AKA - Uncle Dobby, Vlad the Dictator) Apart from Nigel not looking any where near as crazy as Donald, there is hardly a hair's breath between them. " . Some of those points are both valid and accurate.... Not that I'm saying building a wall is a great idea but there's nothing wrong with securing the border. Personally I wouldn't build the wall I'd just very very very firmly regulate against employing illegal immigrants.... Job done or mission accomplished as the yanks would prefer | |||
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"There should be one regulation. Have you got a job? If not you must go home. That is the only regulation you need. And it is ANY job. Not just so called highly qualified people we are short of. Immigrations is good at all levels, for a country as a whole. There can be issues, but they can be tackled with proper planning. The answer is not to keep people out." Regarding EU migrants, the vast majority of them work, that's a fact echoed by the government, many have more than one job as they have a goal to work hard and earn well. There are relatively very few EU migrants of retirement age coming to Britain as well, so they are as a whole less likely to use NHS services compared to British citizens. Many of our work shy are being shown up for what they are....lazy bastards who blame migrants for taking the jobs that they themselves would never undertake. We as a nation need to face up to some harsh facts, we have an element amongst us that just refuse to undertake any work, they are often in families where two or three generations are work shy. But it's so much easier to blame outsiders, is it because we are too ashamed to point fingers at the real problem element? | |||
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"one for courtney more than anyone, but if anyone else has watched any then chime in... have you been watching the SNL election sketches... they have been fantastic! alec baldwin does a fantastic trump!!!!" Yes, I have been watching them!! They've been great. Alec Baldwin is a great Trump. I always take it as a sign, though. The better the comedy around an election cycle, the worse the candidates.  | |||
"How did this get twisted round into yet another brexit thread? Post on one of the other 100 that are currently running. The topic is the us presidential debate." | |||
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