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By *LCC OP Couple
over a year ago
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Will he actually be able to govern or get much done? People say that Obama had a hard time getting stuff through Congress, but there are even fewer people in Washington willing to work with Trump (so it seems).
I would be interested in hearing from people who follow US politics more closely than I do how much he would be able to do. |
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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
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I tend to agree that Trump would be seen as far too dangerous to the higher echelons amongst the 'dark military' in the US, therefore making him a strong candidate for assassination, which would in all likelihood be blamed on a foreign entity like IS..... |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Will he actually be able to govern or get much done? People say that Obama had a hard time getting stuff through Congress, but there are even fewer people in Washington willing to work with Trump (so it seems).
I would be interested in hearing from people who follow US politics more closely than I do how much he would be able to do."
He won't get in. He is already well behind in the polls now and he would have to pull off something he seems incapable of in the last debate next week. My colleagues are telling me that they are expecting full on crash television next week as the pressure is all on Trump and his personality traits suggest a psychotic meltdown could very well be on the cards.
The worst outcome of this election will be the hostility afterwards and exactly how the Republicans get themselves organised again. The division with the Party cause by Trump could see it devastated for the next two terms or longer. |
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"Will he actually be able to govern or get much done? People say that Obama had a hard time getting stuff through Congress, but there are even fewer people in Washington willing to work with Trump (so it seems).
I would be interested in hearing from people who follow US politics more closely than I do how much he would be able to do.
He won't get in. He is already well behind in the polls now and he would have to pull off something he seems incapable of in the last debate next week. My colleagues are telling me that they are expecting full on crash television next week as the pressure is all on Trump and his personality traits suggest a psychotic meltdown could very well be on the cards.
The worst outcome of this election will be the hostility afterwards and exactly how the Republicans get themselves organised again. The division with the Party cause by Trump could see it devastated for the next two terms or longer."
Fingers crossed again then. To be honest we still have a lot of family over there and my oldest came back in June. He said he couldn't stand it over there (he was in Florida) because of the anti Muslim sentiment .... back to liberal Britain just in time for Brexit .... |
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By *LCC OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Will he actually be able to govern or get much done? People say that Obama had a hard time getting stuff through Congress, but there are even fewer people in Washington willing to work with Trump (so it seems).
I would be interested in hearing from people who follow US politics more closely than I do how much he would be able to do.
He won't get in. He is already well behind in the polls now and he would have to pull off something he seems incapable of in the last debate next week. My colleagues are telling me that they are expecting full on crash television next week as the pressure is all on Trump and his personality traits suggest a psychotic meltdown could very well be on the cards.
The worst outcome of this election will be the hostility afterwards and exactly how the Republicans get themselves organised again. The division with the Party cause by Trump could see it devastated for the next two terms or longer."
Is it a bit like Labour with the elected officials quite far away from the party base? Trump did win the primary after all. |
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over a year ago
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IF he wins he will have the majority in congress and the senate.
Obamas problems, as a democrat, was that both houses were ruled by a majority of republicans so they just blocked most of what he wanted.
Trump is standing on the republican ticket.
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However he won't get in as he has been brilliantly ambushed with perfect timing by the democrat press/media etc (maybe with help from a few republicans too?).
The recent revelations etc could have come out months ago...during the candidate selection process. The republicans might have then selected a real candidate who could have beaten Hilary.
By leaving it late there is now no constitutional way for the democrats to put forward an alternative candidate. Hilary will walk it now.
Trump knows he has lost. He has turned to the last resort of all losers....hunting conspiracy theories and calling all opponents liars. |
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By *LCC OP Couple
over a year ago
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"IF he wins he will have the majority in congress and the senate.
Obamas problems, as a democrat, was that both houses were ruled by a majority of republicans so they just blocked most of what he wanted.
Trump is standing on the republican ticket.
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However he won't get in as he has been brilliantly ambushed with perfect timing by the democrat press/media etc (maybe with help from a few republicans too?).
The recent revelations etc could have come out months ago...during the candidate selection process. The republicans might have then selected a real candidate who could have beaten Hilary.
By leaving it late there is now no constitutional way for the democrats to put forward an alternative candidate. Hilary will walk it now.
Trump knows he has lost. He has turned to the last resort of all losers....hunting conspiracy theories and calling all opponents liars."
But a lot of those republicans in both houses have publicly stated that they don't want him to be President and wont vote for him. Do you really think they would support his legislative agenda if he did win? |
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"IF he wins he will have the majority in congress and the senate.
Obamas problems, as a democrat, was that both houses were ruled by a majority of republicans so they just blocked most of what he wanted.
Trump is standing on the republican ticket.
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However he won't get in as he has been brilliantly ambushed with perfect timing by the democrat press/media etc (maybe with help from a few republicans too?).
The recent revelations etc could have come out months ago...during the candidate selection process. The republicans might have then selected a real candidate who could have beaten Hilary.
By leaving it late there is now no constitutional way for the democrats to put forward an alternative candidate. Hilary will walk it now.
Trump knows he has lost. He has turned to the last resort of all losers....hunting conspiracy theories and calling all opponents liars.
But a lot of those republicans in both houses have publicly stated that they don't want him to be President and wont vote for him. Do you really think they would support his legislative agenda if he did win? "
I hope not , I must admit I'm not as well up on the American system as I should be 
I did get the impression it seems to give the President more power than our PM ?
Tbh I hope I'm wrong if i ether of them win ! |
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The republican party are sort of in a no win situation, Trump wont win unless something seismic and beyond anything that's been revealed thus far about both candidates..
When he loses then their grass roots supporters will cry fix/conspiracy by the hierarchy of the party and the outside interests etc Trump himself is already laying the foundations for why he was robbed of the Presidency..
They may well be in a position where they end up with the Democrats holding power in both the houses..
The Republicans have a mess and one could say it was coming, mainstream politics is under scrutiny and it wont end there..
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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if trump wins he is likely to have both a republican controlled house and a republican controlled senate ... so the answer for 2 years is yes....
will he actually try to put thru stuff like "the wall" and "banning muslims".... nope, because the actual backlash would be enormous
he will be in the same position obama was for his first two, (dem controlled house and senate) which is how obama got a lot of his party program thru.... because for the last 6 republicans have been trying to be as obstrutionist as possible......
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at this point I think the best and most probable outcome is that who ever wins is impeached within the next twelve months
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But then, an impeachment doesn't help as we then get the Vice President....Pence is a scary man who doesn't believe in evolution and has ideas about women similar to the radical Muslims...and Kaine is a likable man, but not very charismatic or strong
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They have a third choice, but the 2 major parties have pretty much excluded Johnson/Weld from the party by declining to allow them in the debates and monopolizing the media. |
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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
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"at this point I think the best and most probable outcome is that who ever wins is impeached within the next twelve months
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But then, an impeachment doesn't help as we then get the Vice President....Pence is a scary man who doesn't believe in evolution and has ideas about women similar to the radical Muslims...and Kaine is a likable man, but not very charismatic or strong
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They have a third choice, but the 2 major parties have pretty much excluded Johnson/Weld from the party by declining to allow them in the debates and monopolizing the media."
Maybe because they as independents represent less than 10% support from the electorate....it would be futile to involve them in debates at this point. |
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"at this point I think the best and most probable outcome is that who ever wins is impeached within the next twelve months
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But then, an impeachment doesn't help as we then get the Vice President....Pence is a scary man who doesn't believe in evolution and has ideas about women similar to the radical Muslims...and Kaine is a likable man, but not very charismatic or strong
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They have a third choice, but the 2 major parties have pretty much excluded Johnson/Weld from the party by declining to allow them in the debates and monopolizing the media.
Maybe because they as independents represent less than 10% support from the electorate....it would be futile to involve them in debates at this point."
yes but if the door was opened then more electorate would may be aware of other options
I cannot believe that the two running for president are the best the usa has on offer |
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"I cannot believe that the two running for president are the best the usa has on offer"
Maybe the best are skipping a go. Because the next president following this election would be a saviour. |
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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
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"at this point I think the best and most probable outcome is that who ever wins is impeached within the next twelve months
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But then, an impeachment doesn't help as we then get the Vice President....Pence is a scary man who doesn't believe in evolution and has ideas about women similar to the radical Muslims...and Kaine is a likable man, but not very charismatic or strong
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They have a third choice, but the 2 major parties have pretty much excluded Johnson/Weld from the party by declining to allow them in the debates and monopolizing the media.
Maybe because they as independents represent less than 10% support from the electorate....it would be futile to involve them in debates at this point.
yes but if the door was opened then more electorate would may be aware of other options
I cannot believe that the two running for president are the best the usa has on offer"
Families in the States tend to vote in the way that their forefathers have, they are way more loyal to one of the two major parties than we are in Britain and most of Europe..... |
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"I cannot believe that the two running for president are the best the usa has on offer
Maybe the best are skipping a go. Because the next president following this election would be a saviour."
Rand Paul |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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Pence is a scary man who doesn't believe in evolution and has ideas about women similar to the radical Muslims...and Kaine is a likable man, but not very charismatic or strong
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They have a third choice, but the 2 major parties have pretty much excluded Johnson/Weld from the party by declining to allow them in the debates and monopolizing the media."
i must really need a drink because i think the 1st paragraph is the 1st time i have ever agreed with you on anything!!!
pence is an abhorrant man.... and when trumps makes him look like the acceptable side of the republican party, it shows how back trump is... his views and the laws he's brought in as govenor of indiana are really scary with regards to LGBT and womens issues....
and a kaine presidency may be dullest presidency would you have seen in decades.... but that may not be the worst thing in the world.... kaine would be closer in getting dems and reps to work together than pence would...
with regards to 3rd parties and debates the convention was always that a candidates needed to be polling 15% to get into a debate and the other saving grace for trump is that if weld had been top of that ticket rather than gary johnson,, I think a lot of republicans would have jumped and they would have made the debate stage...... |
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It is obvious, unfortunately imo that he will not win, and I don't blame him for casting doubt upon the fairness of the election or the validity of his oponents candidacy.
Trump would have brought A renaissance in the fortunes of the worlds biggest superpower. There might even have been peace between the US and Russia, which it is obvious the dark forces pulling the stings in DC have no appetite for.
The mad witch is no safe option, so if the prospect of another world war is something that you spend a lot of your time thinking about, then you should "be afraid."
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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
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"It is obvious, unfortunately imo that he will not win, and I don't blame him for casting doubt upon the fairness of the election or the validity of his oponents candidacy.
Trump would have brought A renaissance in the fortunes of the worlds biggest superpower. There might even have been peace between the US and Russia, which it is obvious the dark forces pulling the stings in DC have no appetite for.
The mad witch is no safe option, so if the prospect of another world war is something that you spend a lot of your time thinking about, then you should "be afraid."
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The only peace deal that Russia would ever sign with the US would be like 1945 all over again, the carving up and sharing out of European nations. |
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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
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"If he did win he afraid very afraid 
If he wins, it will be Clinton that will be afraid, she will be getting investigated very closely"
She has been investigated by the FBI, unless of course Trump has decided to disband the FBI because it doesn't suit him.... |
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"It is obvious, unfortunately imo that he will not win, and I don't blame him for casting doubt upon the fairness of the election or the validity of his oponents candidacy.
Trump would have brought A renaissance in the fortunes of the worlds biggest superpower. There might even have been peace between the US and Russia, which it is obvious the dark forces pulling the stings in DC have no appetite for.
The mad witch is no safe option, so if the prospect of another world war is something that you spend a lot of your time thinking about, then you should "be afraid."
The only peace deal that Russia would ever sign with the US would be like 1945 all over again, the carving up and sharing out of European nations."
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Actually it was France Britain and the US, Russia wanted Germany disbanded because Germany had tried to exterminate the Russians twice in 40 years!.
When the west refused they took half of Germany and a great big line of countries that separated Russia from Germany!.... The real fight of ww2 was fascist Germany and Bolshevik communists.
The communists just happened to be on the winning side or at least one half of the winning side |
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By *anes HubbyCouple
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"It is obvious, unfortunately imo that he will not win, and I don't blame him for casting doubt upon the fairness of the election or the validity of his oponents candidacy.
Trump would have brought A renaissance in the fortunes of the worlds biggest superpower. There might even have been peace between the US and Russia, which it is obvious the dark forces pulling the stings in DC have no appetite for.
The mad witch is no safe option, so if the prospect of another world war is something that you spend a lot of your time thinking about, then you should "be afraid."
The only peace deal that Russia would ever sign with the US would be like 1945 all over again, the carving up and sharing out of European nations..
Actually it was France Britain and the US, Russia wanted Germany disbanded because Germany had tried to exterminate the Russians twice in 40 years!.
When the west refused they took half of Germany and a great big line of countries that separated Russia from Germany!.... The real fight of ww2 was fascist Germany and Bolshevik communists.
The communists just happened to be on the winning side or at least one half of the winning side"
Yes I did history as well.....
I'm talking more about the Eastern half of Europe, which Putin has already shown he has a lot of interest in. |
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"if trump wins he is likely to have both a republican controlled house and a republican controlled senate ... so the answer for 2 years is yes....
will he actually try to put thru stuff like "the wall" and "banning muslims".... nope, because the actual backlash would be enormous
he will be in the same position obama was for his first two, (dem controlled house and senate) which is how obama got a lot of his party program thru.... because for the last 6 republicans have been trying to be as obstrutionist as possible......
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The very point I made mate....thanks for the back-up. IF (big if) Trump wins then the republicans will come together.....the only chance they have of keeping control of the two houses. |
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