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"The new Prime Minister Theresa May has made a speech at the Tory party conference in Birmingham and is unequivocal that she and the government will trigger article 50 before March 2017 and deliver what the 52% who voted leave on June 23rd asked for. This is an absolute commitment and there will be no ifs or buts, Britain is 100% leaving the EU and I for one am very pleased to hear this. Civil servants in Whitehall are already busy at work to deliver this before March next year. There will be no general election before 2020 either. Unnecessary EU regulation will be got rid of and thrown out through acts of Parliament as the years go by, which will be a gradual process and give stability to business. Laws will be made in Britain, not in Brussels and we will control our borders. The wheels of Brexit are turning but it seems some loony Remoaners like Tim Farron (who you say? He's leader of the Limp dems) are still in denial and throwing toys out of their prams like he did in an interview with the press after the prime Ministers speech. People like Tim Farron are just an amusing sideshow now. Labour are onto a loser with Corbyn. Roll on Brexit and roll on March 2017, I'm looking forward to the day article 50 is triggered. " Me too | |||
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"And me Four!!" Me too!!! Me thinks that Theresa may be another Maggie | |||
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"The new Prime Minister Theresa May has made a speech at the Tory party conference in Birmingham and is unequivocal that she and the government will trigger article 50 before March 2017 and deliver what the 52% who voted leave on June 23rd asked for. This is an absolute commitment and there will be no ifs or buts, Britain is 100% leaving the EU and I for one am very pleased to hear this. Civil servants in Whitehall are already busy at work to deliver this before March next year. There will be no general election before 2020 either. Unnecessary EU regulation will be got rid of and thrown out through acts of Parliament as the years go by, which will be a gradual process and give stability to business. Laws will be made in Britain, not in Brussels and we will control our borders. The wheels of Brexit are turning but it seems some loony Remoaners like Tim Farron (who you say? He's leader of the Limp dems) are still in denial and throwing toys out of their prams like he did in an interview with the press after the prime Ministers speech. People like Tim Farron are just an amusing sideshow now. Labour are onto a loser with Corbyn. Roll on Brexit and roll on March 2017, I'm looking forward to the day article 50 is triggered. yes, you are spot on and realistically, we could not expect anything less, this is what the huge majority of the country voted for and Prime Minister Theresa May is respecting the decision made by the whole UK majority 6 in favour already on this thread, looks like im number 7" Number 8 here. | |||
"The new Prime Minister Theresa May has made a speech at the Tory party conference in Birmingham and is unequivocal that she and the government will trigger article 50 before March 2017 and deliver what the 52% who voted leave on June 23rd asked for. This is an absolute commitment and there will be no ifs or buts, Britain is 100% leaving the EU and I for one am very pleased to hear this. Civil servants in Whitehall are already busy at work to deliver this before March next year. There will be no general election before 2020 either. Unnecessary EU regulation will be got rid of and thrown out through acts of Parliament as the years go by, which will be a gradual process and give stability to business. Laws will be made in Britain, not in Brussels and we will control our borders. The wheels of Brexit are turning but it seems some loony Remoaners like Tim Farron (who you say? He's leader of the Limp dems) are still in denial and throwing toys out of their prams like he did in an interview with the press after the prime Ministers speech. People like Tim Farron are just an amusing sideshow now. Labour are onto a loser with Corbyn. Roll on Brexit and roll on March 2017, I'm looking forward to the day article 50 is triggered. " She also said she would start negotiations before triggering article 50 and that we are in a strong negotiating position. Funny thing is that the other 27 leaders in the EU have already contradicted that assertion and it should be pointed out that from once article 50 is triggered we lose all our EU voting privileges and there fore have no say in the deal we get from the EU and they have said they will not be generous with us. But hey the Tories leader said it must be true (just like they said no benefit cuts for OAP's, NHS or disabled). | |||
"The new Prime Minister Theresa May has made a speech at the Tory party conference in Birmingham and is unequivocal that she and the government will trigger article 50 before March 2017 and deliver what the 52% who voted leave on June 23rd asked for. This is an absolute commitment and there will be no ifs or buts, Britain is 100% leaving the EU and I for one am very pleased to hear this. Civil servants in Whitehall are already busy at work to deliver this before March next year. There will be no general election before 2020 either. Unnecessary EU regulation will be got rid of and thrown out through acts of Parliament as the years go by, which will be a gradual process and give stability to business. Laws will be made in Britain, not in Brussels and we will control our borders. The wheels of Brexit are turning but it seems some loony Remoaners like Tim Farron (who you say? He's leader of the Limp dems) are still in denial and throwing toys out of their prams like he did in an interview with the press after the prime Ministers speech. People like Tim Farron are just an amusing sideshow now. Labour are onto a loser with Corbyn. Roll on Brexit and roll on March 2017, I'm looking forward to the day article 50 is triggered. yes, you are spot on and realistically, we could not expect anything less, this is what the huge majority of the country voted for and Prime Minister Theresa May is respecting the decision made by the whole UK majority 6 in favour already on this thread, looks like im number 7" Lol, a "huge majority" that Farage himself said would be insufficient had the result been the other way. | |||
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"And we watch on as the pound drops like a very big stone....." good | |||
"And we watch on as the pound drops like a very big stone..... good " In what way would a weak pound be good for the average family in the UK?, considering that for example 90% of all clothing sold here is imported, 80% of all electrical goods, and 80% of all fuel....yes, petrol is purchased in Dollars | |||
"And we watch on as the pound drops like a very big stone..... good In what way would a weak pound be good for the average family in the UK?, considering that for example 90% of all clothing sold here is imported, 80% of all electrical goods, and 80% of all fuel....yes, petrol is purchased in Dollars" ooh ya don't say. Ask ya mate in Spain, they'd love a bit of devaluation there but they're stuck | |||
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"And we watch on as the pound drops like a very big stone..... good In what way would a weak pound be good for the average family in the UK?, considering that for example 90% of all clothing sold here is imported, 80% of all electrical goods, and 80% of all fuel....yes, petrol is purchased in Dollars ooh ya don't say. Ask ya mate in Spain, they'd love a bit of devaluation there but they're stuck " Objection your honour, conflation. Spain made an idiotic decision to join the euro. The euro is an entirely flawed concept that only people as dumb as politicians could support. You should only compare the pound to other sovereign currencies. | |||
"And we watch on as the pound drops like a very big stone..... good In what way would a weak pound be good for the average family in the UK?, considering that for example 90% of all clothing sold here is imported, 80% of all electrical goods, and 80% of all fuel....yes, petrol is purchased in Dollars" . In what way is importing 80 and 90% of your goods while relying on foreign investment from those profits coming back to the UK any good for the average family?... . A weak pound is purely the result of having an importing economy... If you want a strong pound you have to start reversing the export/import ratio to do that you'll have to weaken your currency.... After that it all comes down to good future investments | |||
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"Not that easy when you are up against Germany and China to name just Two of the leading manufacturing nations, we can't match China because of labour costs, and we've been behind Germany since the end of Victoria's reign...." There's no fundamental reason why we couldn't export more than Germany (who often export more than the USA). Other than the fact the euro works brilliantly for them, there's nothing particularly special about them. However, we have a very short term culture that inhibits business. | |||
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"Simple economics....we don't have a manufacturing base like Germany has, we haven't had for almost a hundred years. The vast majority of Europe's leading manufacturing companies are German, they are massive players" Yes but there's no inherent reason it had to be like that. Just a series of bad choices by our country and series of good ones by them. Their services sector sucks though. | |||
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"Not that easy when you are up against Germany and China to name just Two of the leading manufacturing nations, we can't match China because of labour costs, and we've been behind Germany since the end of Victoria's reign...." Prussia was the king of the upcoming new technological revolution.... We missed the transition from coal to oil due to running an empire and being great . All the new chemists were German, simple as, we didn't see it coming till it was too late but luckily the empire had all the oil land and that Basra to Berlin railway we made sure only ever ran to Constantinople for honeymooners | |||
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"BASF, VW, Liebherr, Infineon, Mercedes, Trumph, Hapag, Stiefel, Merck, Mann, Klockner, Osram, Siemens, Bayer, BMW, Carl Zeiss, Karcher, Leica, Miele, Bosch, Stihl, Wurgh......to name just a few, we have nowhere near the manufacturing capabilities in the UK and haven't had for decades, sad really when you think about it." But at least we have banking Yes that was sarcastic | |||
"BASF, VW, Liebherr, Infineon, Mercedes, Trumph, Hapag, Stiefel, Merck, Mann, Klockner, Osram, Siemens, Bayer, BMW, Carl Zeiss, Karcher, Leica, Miele, Bosch, Stihl, Wurgh......to name just a few, we have nowhere near the manufacturing capabilities in the UK and haven't had for decades, sad really when you think about it." . . Did you spot the connection with most of those companies and what I was saying about future investment in new technologies | |||
"BASF, VW, Liebherr, Infineon, Mercedes, Trumph, Hapag, Stiefel, Merck, Mann, Klockner, Osram, Siemens, Bayer, BMW, Carl Zeiss, Karcher, Leica, Miele, Bosch, Stihl, Wurgh......to name just a few, we have nowhere near the manufacturing capabilities in the UK and haven't had for decades, sad really when you think about it." Yes you are right because the company owners did,nt invest in their own companies and the Government did,nt invest either they just closed them say they cost to much to keep going. | |||
"BASF, VW, Liebherr, Infineon, Mercedes, Trumph, Hapag, Stiefel, Merck, Mann, Klockner, Osram, Siemens, Bayer, BMW, Carl Zeiss, Karcher, Leica, Miele, Bosch, Stihl, Wurgh......to name just a few, we have nowhere near the manufacturing capabilities in the UK and haven't had for decades, sad really when you think about it. Yes you are right because the company owners did,nt invest in their own companies and the Government did,nt invest either they just closed them say they cost to much to keep going. " That and a few looney trade unions that made investment impossible. | |||
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"And we watch on as the pound drops like a very big stone..... good In what way would a weak pound be good for the average family in the UK? " We've already started to see the benefits of a weaker pound. The UK export market has been booming since June 23rd, plus we've seen a huge boost to the UK tourism industry too. That is the difference where Brexiteers see positives, Remoaners just look for the negatives in everything. | |||
"When Merkel invited over a million refugees into Germany over a period of 18 months she did so because of the enormous pressure from German industry that needed to bolster its workforce, it's like a runaway train, WW3 isn't being fought in trenches....it's being fought in factories and boardrooms. We in the UK are just a bit player, our thirst for imports from the likes of Germany and China have simply made us a customer rather than a supplier." And look at what is happening to Frau Merkel as a result of her recklessness. She is taking a hammering in the polls from the anti immigration AFD party. Merkel is in serious trouble at next year's big election in Germany, the silly Frau. | |||
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"When Merkel invited over a million refugees into Germany over a period of 18 months she did so because of the enormous pressure from German industry that needed to bolster its workforce, it's like a runaway train, WW3 isn't being fought in trenches....it's being fought in factories and boardrooms. We in the UK are just a bit player, our thirst for imports from the likes of Germany and China have simply made us a customer rather than a supplier. And look at what is happening to Frau Merkel as a result of her recklessness. She is taking a hammering in the polls from the anti immigration AFD party. Merkel is in serious trouble at next year's big election in Germany, the silly Frau. " You obviously miss the point, German industry NEEDED more labour, their population couldn't keep up with demand for labour.....Merkel doesn't run Germany, industry runs Germany | |||
"When Merkel invited over a million refugees into Germany over a period of 18 months she did so because of the enormous pressure from German industry that needed to bolster its workforce, it's like a runaway train, WW3 isn't being fought in trenches....it's being fought in factories and boardrooms. We in the UK are just a bit player, our thirst for imports from the likes of Germany and China have simply made us a customer rather than a supplier. And look at what is happening to Frau Merkel as a result of her recklessness. She is taking a hammering in the polls from the anti immigration AFD party. Merkel is in serious trouble at next year's big election in Germany, the silly Frau. You obviously miss the point, German industry NEEDED more labour, their population couldn't keep up with demand for labour.....Merkel doesn't run Germany, industry runs Germany" there ya go then. The UK will get a good deal after all | |||
"When Merkel invited over a million refugees into Germany over a period of 18 months she did so because of the enormous pressure from German industry that needed to bolster its workforce, it's like a runaway train, WW3 isn't being fought in trenches....it's being fought in factories and boardrooms. We in the UK are just a bit player, our thirst for imports from the likes of Germany and China have simply made us a customer rather than a supplier. And look at what is happening to Frau Merkel as a result of her recklessness. She is taking a hammering in the polls from the anti immigration AFD party. Merkel is in serious trouble at next year's big election in Germany, the silly Frau. You obviously miss the point, German industry NEEDED more labour, their population couldn't keep up with demand for labour.....Merkel doesn't run Germany, industry runs Germany there ya go then. The UK will get a good deal after all" Exactly, the UK is one of THE biggest customers for the German car industry (which is one of, if not THE biggest industry in Germany) so if industry runs Germany, logic dictates the UK will get a good deal. | |||
"And we watch on as the pound drops like a very big stone....." This means that our exports will be a lot more competitive and helps companies selling in a world wide market . | |||
"And we watch on as the pound drops like a very big stone..... This means that our exports will be a lot more competitive and helps companies selling in a world wide market ." It's true, a weaker pound will help our exports in the short term. It's also true that it will push up the costs of our imports, including the cost of the materials used to make the goods we want to export. A week pound will also put up the costs of fuel and food, which will feed into higher inflation and consequently higher wage demands which will in time at least balance out the current benefit of a lower pound. The reality is is that you can't fool or buck the markets with nothing but unrealistic talk and the markets are telling us that they think everyone in the UK is going to be poorer as a direct result of BREXIT. If the markets believe we're going to be poorer and act on it then we will be poorer. We're already 30% poorer than we were before BREXIT, we just haven't started to feel it yet but we will when the cost of everything we import (which is pretty much everything either directly or indirectly) starts to go through the roof. If massive devaluation was the real solution to our problems then it could have and would have been done ages ago. The reality is is that massive devaluation leads to one thing and one thing only, massive inflation. So make the most of this post referendum, pre BREXIT boom because it won't last for long, and when we do press the article 50 button and, in so doing, totally loose control of the whole BREXIT process for at least two years, expect an even bigger drop in the value of the pound and all our wealth with it. | |||
"And we watch on as the pound drops like a very big stone..... This means that our exports will be a lot more competitive and helps companies selling in a world wide market ." Firstly the steep rising cost of imported raw materials to manufacture these goods for export will rise to the point where any benefit on import increases to the economy will be nullified, that's not me speaking, it was a warning just this week from the CBI. Secondly it shouldn't be forgotten that our imports far outweigh our exports since Thatcher made sure we turned into a Service economy rather than a manufacturing economy. Thirdly it's vitally important to realise that the Three largest import sectors into the UK are Oil (& Gas), Food stuffs, and raw materials for manufacturing.....the first two of which impact heavily on ordinary British families on a daily basis. Incidentally.....looking back in the forums on past subjects of rising forecourt fuel prices, it's very interesting to see several of the people who are so up for Brexit being the self same people who were moaning about rising petroland diesel prices!....how ironic!!! | |||