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"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy " Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. " What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. " Your guess is as good as mine, the points based system was,nt her idea and it was what Vote Leave wanted to use so she dumped it. | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. " ?? He complains of too many immigrants - s he must be complaining about the no of immigrants there are now So we are full up! Send her back Love how the ukippers bend over backwards to pretend and twist themselves in knots They say there are too many many migrants. So Farage can see his wife back to the EU What a hypocrite - nasty little bigot he is If he can shag someone they can stay Kick the her out now! | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. " The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out" No it wouldn't, that's preposterous. It's a UK points based system, we can set the points to be whatever we want and change them whenever we want. | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out No it wouldn't, that's preposterous. It's a UK points based system, we can set the points to be whatever we want and change them whenever we want. " Err...read the FT article on points system. If we used the points system - immigration would go up. Not that the Brexiters bothered checking. Any ways, time to kick Mrs Farage out, The country is full ! Over crowded. Time to take back control by kicking Frau Farage out, I love the fact Ukippers squirm when you point out Mrs Farage is a kraut! Shows what hypocrites there are | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out No it wouldn't, that's preposterous. It's a UK points based system, we can set the points to be whatever we want and change them whenever we want. " You are wasting your time, this concept is obviously too difficult for ChocolateRod to understand. | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out No it wouldn't, that's preposterous. It's a UK points based system, we can set the points to be whatever we want and change them whenever we want. Err...read the FT article on points system. If we used the points system - immigration would go up. Not that the Brexiters bothered checking. Any ways, time to kick Mrs Farage out, The country is full ! Over crowded. Time to take back control by kicking Frau Farage out, I love the fact Ukippers squirm when you point out Mrs Farage is a kraut! Shows what hypocrites there are" I have read it. It doesn't make any sense. It's just a fob off justification that fails basic logic. A points based system should just function like a normal market, have you ever tried to place a bet on something the bookies don't want bets on? They just adjust the odds to something stupid until things balance out. It's not difficult. | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out No it wouldn't, that's preposterous. It's a UK points based system, we can set the points to be whatever we want and change them whenever we want. You are wasting your time, this concept is obviously too difficult for ChocolateRod to understand. " HA - the misplaced ignorance. Just read the FT article on the points system to understand why it would lead to more immigration. There is a reason why the Brexiters ditched it. As ever, no comment on Faage and his migrant wife..typical | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out No it wouldn't, that's preposterous. It's a UK points based system, we can set the points to be whatever we want and change them whenever we want. You are wasting your time, this concept is obviously too difficult for ChocolateRod to understand. HA - the misplaced ignorance. Just read the FT article on the points system to understand why it would lead to more immigration. There is a reason why the Brexiters ditched it. As ever, no comment on Faage and his migrant wife..typical" I have read it. I've explained why it doesn't make sense. What part of their logic do you find convincing? | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out No it wouldn't, that's preposterous. It's a UK points based system, we can set the points to be whatever we want and change them whenever we wan Err...read the FT article on points system. If we used the points system - immigration would go up. Not that the Brexiters bothered checking. Any ways, time to kick Mrs Farage out, The country is full ! Over crowded. Time to take back control by kicking Frau Farage out, I love the fact Ukippers squirm when you point out Mrs Farage is a kraut! Shows what hypocrites there are I have read it. It doesn't make any sense. It's just a fob off justification that fails basic logic. A points based system should just function like a normal market, have you ever tried to place a bet on something the bookies don't want bets on? They just adjust the odds to something stupid until things balance out. It's not difficult. " Well -Mrs Farage has zero points. Null.Nada. Let's kick her out first. BuyMr Farage never doe that. Hmm..wonder why he never mentions his German wife to the flag waving little Englanders. They are too thick to realise. The problem with a points system is that it's based on observable qualifications ie degrees/wealth and not related to the job market. So could have lots of wealthy Chinese come but no farm workers. So will prob have a work permit scheme (if you give points for a particular job, then it becomes a work permit scheme effectively) The issue with a work permit scheme for the ukippers is that it will still mean lots of immigration. Who else will pick the strawberries, or be a nurse in some obscure place. Little englanders never realise who else is going to wipe the arse of some old person in a home in Hull but an immigrant. But feel free to apply for that job! Love to see the lazy Brexiters do all the bum wiping jobs. But once you have a work permit scheme, it's easy to set up a company and apply for work permits. Which of course makes all the Ukippers angry. I want my country back. I want my country back!! Oh by the way, enjoy the inflation coming your way with the £ drop | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out No it wouldn't, that's preposterous. It's a UK points based system, we can set the points to be whatever we want and change them whenever we want. You are wasting your time, this concept is obviously too difficult for ChocolateRod to understand. " Fell free to pick strawberries for us all or work in an old peoples home wiping their arses Brexiters should be able to do those jobs shouldn't they? British jobs for British workers! Fine - apply for the bum wiping job! | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out No it wouldn't, that's preposterous. It's a UK points based system, we can set the points to be whatever we want and change them whenever we wan Err...read the FT article on points system. If we used the points system - immigration would go up. Not that the Brexiters bothered checking. Any ways, time to kick Mrs Farage out, The country is full ! Over crowded. Time to take back control by kicking Frau Farage out, I love the fact Ukippers squirm when you point out Mrs Farage is a kraut! Shows what hypocrites there are I have read it. It doesn't make any sense. It's just a fob off justification that fails basic logic. A points based system should just function like a normal market, have you ever tried to place a bet on something the bookies don't want bets on? They just adjust the odds to something stupid until things balance out. It's not difficult. Well -Mrs Farage has zero points. Null.Nada. Let's kick her out first. BuyMr Farage never doe that. Hmm..wonder why he never mentions his German wife to the flag waving little Englanders. They are too thick to realise. The problem with a points system is that it's based on observable qualifications ie degrees/wealth and not related to the job market. So could have lots of wealthy Chinese come but no farm workers. So will prob have a work permit scheme (if you give points for a particular job, then it becomes a work permit scheme effectively) The issue with a work permit scheme for the ukippers is that it will still mean lots of immigration. Who else will pick the strawberries, or be a nurse in some obscure place. Little englanders never realise who else is going to wipe the arse of some old person in a home in Hull but an immigrant. But feel free to apply for that job! Love to see the lazy Brexiters do all the bum wiping jobs. But once you have a work permit scheme, it's easy to set up a company and apply for work permits. Which of course makes all the Ukippers angry. I want my country back. I want my country back!! Oh by the way, enjoy the inflation coming your way with the £ drop" Fair point (s), I was thinking of 'giving points for a particular job' as you put it. I dislike the term 'work permits'. Usually that means you have to 'prove' you can't hire a local person to do the job first. In my industry, the government can go do one before they tell me who we can and can't hire. I'm not taking advice on how to run a business from a bunch of career politicans. Either the immigrants come here or we move the jobs to the immigrants. That is why 'work permits' won't work for most industries. | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out No it wouldn't, that's preposterous. It's a UK points based system, we can set the points to be whatever we want and change them whenever we want. You are wasting your time, this concept is obviously too difficult for ChocolateRod to understand. Fell free to pick strawberries for us all or work in an old peoples home wiping their arses Brexiters should be able to do those jobs shouldn't they? British jobs for British workers! Fine - apply for the bum wiping job!" Just for the record it was Gordon Brown who first uttered the phrase "British jobs for British workers" during his doomed Labour party general election bid in 2010, but I guess you don't have a problem when it's a Remainer like Brown saying it?  | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out No it wouldn't, that's preposterous. It's a UK points based system, we can set the points to be whatever we want and change them whenever we want. You are wasting your time, this concept is obviously too difficult for ChocolateRod to understand. HA - the misplaced ignorance. Just read the FT article on the points system to understand why it would lead to more immigration. There is a reason why the Brexiters ditched it. As ever, no comment on Faage and his migrant wife..typical" No Theresa May was the one who ditched it, Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson stood by it. Now it is called a points based "system". System being the key word here, you can alter the terms and conditions of a system to suit the needs. The Australian system had their terms and conditions adjusted to allow more migrants in, if we implemented a British system here we could alter the terms and conditions to allow fewer migrants in. Really not that difficult to understand. | |||
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"Farage is a cocksucker. Next!" God... I was trying to do something important then and this tripe distracted me.  | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out No it wouldn't, that's preposterous. It's a UK points based system, we can set the points to be whatever we want and change them whenever we want. You are wasting your time, this concept is obviously too difficult for ChocolateRod to understand. HA - the misplaced ignorance. Just read the FT article on the points system to understand why it would lead to more immigration. There is a reason why the Brexiters ditched it. As ever, no comment on Faage and his migrant wife..typical No Theresa May was the one who ditched it, Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson stood by it. Now it is called a points based "system". System being the key word here, you can alter the terms and conditions of a system to suit the needs. The Australian system had their terms and conditions adjusted to allow more migrants in, if we implemented a British system here we could alter the terms and conditions to allow fewer migrants in. Really not that difficult to understand. " Exactly, her arguement was simply "if we adopted the Australian system, we'd get Australian results". Errr ok, is that the only possible variant!? It's as bad as the fuckwits who pretend that the only alternative to the NHS is the American system. | |||
"Farage is a cocksucker. Next!" You're a cock sucker!! | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. " There has been no cut off date from the government that I have seen, if you could refer me to your source I would genuinely love to read it. I have a few questions based on what you have said. If those EU citizens who were here on the 23rd of June are allowed to stay, what happens if they work abroad or return home for a while, will they be gauranteed that they can return to the UK at any time in the future, irrespective of any future immigration policies that the UK government puts in place? If these EU citizens chose to marry, or are already married to, another EU or non-EU citizen who wasn't in the UK at the time, are they also entitled to live, work and study in the UK? What about their children (born and unborn), what rights will they have? | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. ?? He complains of too many immigrants - s he must be complaining about the no of immigrants there are now So we are full up! Send her back Love how the ukippers bend over backwards to pretend and twist themselves in knots They say there are too many many migrants. So Farage can see his wife back to the EU What a hypocrite - nasty little bigot he is If he can shag someone they can stay Kick the her out now!" Puerile bollox. Long before the EU a full British citizen was fully entitled to bring their wife/husband to the UK. They are a full legally married couple and have been for many years. She is fully entitled to stay in the UK irrespective of Britain's relationship with the EU. However with bigoted comments like above I wonder why she would want to. | |||
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"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national)." Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? " Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.  | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? " Somehow I think not, in the German embassy ! He will be waiting for his German passport  | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Somehow I think not, in the German embassy ! He will be waiting for his German passport "I know, its just the irony of him complaining about having EU written on his British passport, and then applying for a German (EU) passport! Shows how hypocritical he is. | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed. "You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on? | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on? "But thats what the insular xenophobics wanted. So they will be happy . | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on? "Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them"Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it. | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it. " | |||
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"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it. "Funnily enough; the principal country supporting the EU visa idea : was...... The UK. And it's going to happen. | |||
"Like him or hate him he is the most important British political figure of the 21st century so far.He has changed the course of this country and Europe hopefully for the better but he was Brexit not Boris and his crowd."
Nigel Farage should be given a Knighthood for what he has done for this country. | |||
"Like him or hate him he is the most important British political figure of the 21st century so far.He has changed the course of this country and Europe hopefully for the better but he was Brexit not Boris and his crowd.
Nigel Farage should be given a Knighthood for what he has done for this country. "Or rather, executed for what he has done to your country. | |||
"Like him or hate him he is the most important British political figure of the 21st century so far.He has changed the course of this country and Europe hopefully for the better but he was Brexit not Boris and his crowd.
Nigel Farage should be given a Knighthood for what he has done for this country. " | |||
"Like him or hate him he is the most important British political figure of the 21st century so far.He has changed the course of this country and Europe hopefully for the better but he was Brexit not Boris and his crowd.
Nigel Farage should be given a Knighthood for what he has done for this country. "No, he shouldn't. | |||
"Like him or hate him he is the most important British political figure of the 21st century so far.He has changed the course of this country and Europe hopefully for the better but he was Brexit not Boris and his crowd.
Nigel Farage should be given a Knighthood for what he has done for this country.
No, he shouldn't."why not? | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it. "It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now. Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid. | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid."Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama.... | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama...."Try tell that to this family: ://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron Or these twenty familes: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government. | |||
"Farage is a cocksucker. Next! You're a cock sucker!! " As a matter of fact, I'm not  | |||
"Farage is a cocksucker. Next! You're a cock sucker!! As a matter of fact, I'm not "Oh! I am. | |||
" Try tell that to this family: ://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron Or these twenty familes: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government." So what you are saying is that you want totally open access to the uK for any and every single person in the world that wants to come in | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government."And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US | |||
" Try tell that to this family: ://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron Or these twenty familes: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government. So what you are saying is that you want totally open access to the uK for any and every single person in the world that wants to come in" No, because UK citizens don't have the right to enter into every country in the world do we? I was saying let's keep the system that has served us extremely well for the last 40 years, a reciprocal agreement with other EU countries. | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US"The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas. | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US
The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas. "Only because the US did,nt want those people to enter their country. Its called border control which is what over 17 million people in the UK want back.  | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US
The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas. "and you had no problems the last time you lived and worked in another EU country? | |||
| |||
"If you guys aren't intelligent enough to understand the importance of rights then I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you. "
ok, tell us the 'rights' you have at the moment when moving to another EU country to live and work? Spain is a popular destination so could you tell us the processes you have to go through before you can live and work there for longer than 3 months? Or aren't there any? You just have this assumed 'right' do you think? | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US
The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas. "Hust dont do anything to give them a reason to deny you a visa and you wont have a problem simples | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US
The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas.
Hust dont do anything to give them a reason to deny you a visa and you wont have a problem simples"So we can get rid of your human rights too then? Don't do anything to upset the state and they won't execute or imprison you, simples. | |||
"If you guys aren't intelligent enough to understand the importance of rights then I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you. "  keep it up so funny | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US
The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas.
Hust dont do anything to give them a reason to deny you a visa and you wont have a problem simples
So we can get rid of your human rights too then? Don't do anything to upset the state and they won't execute or imprison you, simples. "In which countries is it your human right to enter without visa control? | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US
The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas.
Hust dont do anything to give them a reason to deny you a visa and you wont have a problem simples
So we can get rid of your human rights too then? Don't do anything to upset the state and they won't execute or imprison you, simples. "Thats taking it a bit far but if a country id like to go too require me to complete a form so they can prove im not a criminal or terrorist i dont see it as a hardship like you obviously do what are you hiding? | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US
The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas.
Hust dont do anything to give them a reason to deny you a visa and you wont have a problem simples
So we can get rid of your human rights too then? Don't do anything to upset the state and they won't execute or imprison you, simples. ". There are no human rights, it's a bullshit phrase dreamt up by lawyers and idiots. There's laws made by society, unfortunately or fortunately at any one time society can take your "rights" away or give you some, smoking in pubs, guns, fox hunting, badger baiting, riding motorcycles without crash helmets, not wanting to wear seatbelts, wanting to use your phone while driving or d*unk, the ability to say what you want where you want, the ability to walk around naked, take drugs, marry two women.... Do I need to go on!. . You want the right to travel from country to country unhindered, society just said no, just like the person who wanted to shoot his pistol or the guy who wants to walk naked. You campaign to change society, I have for many years, sometimes you get success sometimes you don't | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US
The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas.
Hust dont do anything to give them a reason to deny you a visa and you wont have a problem simples
So we can get rid of your human rights too then? Don't do anything to upset the state and they won't execute or imprison you, simples. "Free movement across borders is NOT a human right. I just love how you've gone from sexing up the unlikely possibility of requiring a visa for the EU to imprisonment and execution LOL. No doubt before the end of the thread it will be that anyone from the left will have to give Trump a blowjob before entering the US. Remember folks you heard it here first. | |||
" The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas. So we can get rid of your human rights too then? Don't do anything to upset the state and they won't execute or imprison you, simples. Free movement across borders is NOT a human right. I just love how you've gone from sexing up the unlikely possibility of requiring a visa for the EU to imprisonment and execution LOL. No doubt before the end of the thread it will be that anyone from the left will have to give Trump a blowjob before entering the US. Remember folks you heard it here first. "Thanks for answering the question for CLCC he has a habit of not responding after making embarrassing statements .
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" The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas. So we can get rid of your human rights too then? Don't do anything to upset the state and they won't execute or imprison you, simples. Free movement across borders is NOT a human right. I just love how you've gone from sexing up the unlikely possibility of requiring a visa for the EU to imprisonment and execution LOL. No doubt before the end of the thread it will be that anyone from the left will have to give Trump a blowjob before entering the US. Remember folks you heard it here first.
Thanks for answering the question for CLCC he has a habit of not responding after making embarrassing statements .
"That will be every hour or so then. | |||
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"The thing that always amuses me is that many remainers seem to think that everything in Europe is slick and runs so smoothly that all these so called rights just drop into your lap at the airport. I've lived in three countries and trust me nothing drops in your lap. You have to jump through (usually expensive) hoops for everything. Try doing anything with officialdom in Spain without being fluent is Spanish, and I mean fluent. Go to a town hall or DSS office in the UK and translators are on hand and paperwork is translated into host of different languages. In Spain you get Spanish or Spanish or if you are in one of the regions you can get the local language such as Catalan for example. If you need a translator you have to take your own, at your expense. Even then you can hit the brick wall of bureaucratic incompetence or down right corruption. Try registering a second hand car in your name without being on the padron (electoral roll) In theory it is simple. In practise, especially if there are local elections coming up and the mayor doesn't want foreigners voting, it can be almost impossible unless you have a residencia (which can be another minefield) When we had this problem a few years ago and the town hall was being obstructive, the Mrs said in Spanish to the woman behind the desk "what is the problem? this is Europe" To which she got the reply (in perfect German) "No this is not Europe, this is Orihuela" We had to go back with a Spanish friend who was an active member of the opposition party to eventually get what we wanted, and even then she tried the "computer is not working" trick as a last resort. In the end she almost threw the papers at us. Your rights in the EU are not as clear cut as you think. " Agreed
People keep going on about this visa thing, well a certain person here does, and not that you'd ever need one to holiday in Europe anyway, but getting a visa would be as nothing to the hoops you already have to jump through | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US
The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas.
Hust dont do anything to give them a reason to deny you a visa and you wont have a problem simples
So we can get rid of your human rights too then? Don't do anything to upset the state and they won't execute or imprison you, simples.
Free movement across borders is NOT a human right.
I just love how you've gone from sexing up the unlikely possibility of requiring a visa for the EU to imprisonment and execution LOL.
No doubt before the end of the thread it will be that anyone from the left will have to give Trump a blowjob before entering the US.
Remember folks you heard it here first. "No one said that it was a Human Right! If you struggle to follow a basic arguement about RIGHTS its no wonder you were daft enough to vote leave. | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US
The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas.
Hust dont do anything to give them a reason to deny you a visa and you wont have a problem simples
So we can get rid of your human rights too then? Don't do anything to upset the state and they won't execute or imprison you, simples.
Free movement across borders is NOT a human right.
I just love how you've gone from sexing up the unlikely possibility of requiring a visa for the EU to imprisonment and execution LOL.
No doubt before the end of the thread it will be that anyone from the left will have to give Trump a blowjob before entering the US.
Remember folks you heard it here first.
No one said that it was a Human Right! If you struggle to follow a basic arguement about RIGHTS its no wonder you were daft enough to vote leave."So who,s right is it then a pigs? | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US
The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas.
Hust dont do anything to give them a reason to deny you a visa and you wont have a problem simples
So we can get rid of your human rights too then? Don't do anything to upset the state and they won't execute or imprison you, simples.
Free movement across borders is NOT a human right.
I just love how you've gone from sexing up the unlikely possibility of requiring a visa for the EU to imprisonment and execution LOL.
No doubt before the end of the thread it will be that anyone from the left will have to give Trump a blowjob before entering the US.
Remember folks you heard it here first.
No one said that it was a Human Right! If you struggle to follow a basic arguement about RIGHTS its no wonder you were daft enough to vote leave.
So who,s right is it then a pigs? "Oh no! Don't bring bloody Pork into it. | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US
The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas.
Hust dont do anything to give them a reason to deny you a visa and you wont have a problem simples
So we can get rid of your human rights too then? Don't do anything to upset the state and they won't execute or imprison you, simples.
Free movement across borders is NOT a human right.
I just love how you've gone from sexing up the unlikely possibility of requiring a visa for the EU to imprisonment and execution LOL.
No doubt before the end of the thread it will be that anyone from the left will have to give Trump a blowjob before entering the US.
Remember folks you heard it here first.
No one said that it was a Human Right! If you struggle to follow a basic arguement about RIGHTS its no wonder you were daft enough to vote leave."Following your arguments is akin to wading through treacle in lead boots. | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US
The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas.
Hust dont do anything to give them a reason to deny you a visa and you wont have a problem simples
So we can get rid of your human rights too then? Don't do anything to upset the state and they won't execute or imprison you, simples.
Free movement across borders is NOT a human right.
I just love how you've gone from sexing up the unlikely possibility of requiring a visa for the EU to imprisonment and execution LOL.
No doubt before the end of the thread it will be that anyone from the left will have to give Trump a blowjob before entering the US.
Remember folks you heard it here first.
No one said that it was a Human Right! If you struggle to follow a basic arguement about RIGHTS its no wonder you were daft enough to vote leave.""So we can get rid of your human rights too then? Don't do anything to upset the state and they won't execute or imprison you, simples." Comedy | |||
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"All human rights are rights, but not all rights are human rights. Like all chickens are birds, but not all birds are chickens. Sorry I thought I had dumbed it down enough for Brexiters to follow but obviously not. The question I was asking, was if you don't care about rights, and are happy to give them away, are you also happy to give away your human rights? But then some people on here even deny that there are such things as human rights "No the question you asked was "we can get rid of your human rights too then?" You really are dumb and I am tempted to tell you to stop digging holes but it is funny as fck
You should be a politician | |||
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"All human rights are rights, but not all rights are human rights. Like all chickens are birds, but not all birds are chickens. Sorry I thought I had dumbed it down enough for Brexiters to follow but obviously not. The question I was asking, was if you don't care about rights, and are happy to give them away, are you also happy to give away your human rights? But then some people on here even deny that there are such things as human rights "So Chickens will need a visa to go to Benidorm? That's the hen night market well and truly bolloxed then? | |||
"All human rights are rights, but not all rights are human rights. Like all chickens are birds, but not all birds are chickens. Sorry I thought I had dumbed it down enough for Brexiters to follow but obviously not. The question I was asking, was if you don't care about rights, and are happy to give them away, are you also happy to give away your human rights? But then some people on here even deny that there are such things as human rights
No the question you asked was "we can get rid of your human rights too then?" You really are dumb and I am tempted to tell you to stop digging holes but it is funny as fck
You should be a politician "I think I would have to write in crayons for you to be able to understand. | |||
"All human rights are rights, but not all rights are human rights. Like all chickens are birds, but not all birds are chickens. Sorry I thought I had dumbed it down enough for Brexiters to follow but obviously not. The question I was asking, was if you don't care about rights, and are happy to give them away, are you also happy to give away your human rights? But then some people on here even deny that there are such things as human rights
No the question you asked was "we can get rid of your human rights too then?" You really are dumb and I am tempted to tell you to stop digging holes but it is funny as fck
You should be a politician
I think I would have to write in crayons for you to be able to understand. "I Suppose it would beat hieroglyphics.  | |||
"All human rights are rights, but not all rights are human rights. Like all chickens are birds, but not all birds are chickens. Sorry I thought I had dumbed it down enough for Brexiters to follow but obviously not. The question I was asking, was if you don't care about rights, and are happy to give them away, are you also happy to give away your human rights? But then some people on here even deny that there are such things as human rights
No the question you asked was "we can get rid of your human rights too then?" You really are dumb and I am tempted to tell you to stop digging holes but it is funny as fck
You should be a politician
I think I would have to write in crayons for you to be able to understand. "Stop thinking and listen. YOU wrote this and I quote once again "we can get rid of your human rights too then?" I say once again YOU YOU YOU wrote this you did you really did. So we now at the point in the debate to see how deluded YOU are. Did YOU yes YOU type them words? And could you please paste that analogy about the chickens to me it was genius keep them coming | |||
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"All human rights are rights, but not all rights are human rights. Like all chickens are birds, but not all birds are chickens. Sorry I thought I had dumbed it down enough for Brexiters to follow but obviously not. The question I was asking, was if you don't care about rights, and are happy to give them away, are you also happy to give away your human rights? But then some people on here even deny that there are such things as human rights
No the question you asked was "we can get rid of your human rights too then?" You really are dumb and I am tempted to tell you to stop digging holes but it is funny as fck
You should be a politician
I think I would have to write in crayons for you to be able to understand.
Stop thinking and listen. YOU wrote this and I quote once again
"we can get rid of your human rights too then?"
I say once again YOU YOU YOU wrote this you did you really did.
So we now at the point in the debate to see how deluded YOU are.
Did YOU yes YOU type them words?
And could you please paste that analogy about the chickens to me it was genius keep them coming
"You must be pretending to be this daft right? You cant really be like this is real life, can you? I can't believe that you are honestly struggling to follow such a simple line of questioning. You were saying its fine to take peoples rights away, so I asked if it would be ok to also take your human rights away with the question above. What's so complicated about that? | |||
"All human rights are rights, but not all rights are human rights. Like all chickens are birds, but not all birds are chickens. Sorry I thought I had dumbed it down enough for Brexiters to follow but obviously not. The question I was asking, was if you don't care about rights, and are happy to give them away, are you also happy to give away your human rights? But then some people on here even deny that there are such things as human rights
No the question you asked was "we can get rid of your human rights too then?" You really are dumb and I am tempted to tell you to stop digging holes but it is funny as fck
You should be a politician
I think I would have to write in crayons for you to be able to understand.
Stop thinking and listen. YOU wrote this and I quote once again
"we can get rid of your human rights too then?"
I say once again YOU YOU YOU wrote this you did you really did.
So we now at the point in the debate to see how deluded YOU are.
Did YOU yes YOU type them words?
And could you please paste that analogy about the chickens to me it was genius keep them coming
You must be pretending to be this daft right? You cant really be like this is real life, can you?
I can't believe that you are honestly struggling to follow such a simple line of questioning. You were saying its fine to take peoples rights away, so I asked if it would be ok to also take your human rights away with the question above. What's so complicated about that? "But again exactly what right would be losing if travel visas came back | |||
"All human rights are rights, but not all rights are human rights. Like all chickens are birds, but not all birds are chickens. Sorry I thought I had dumbed it down enough for Brexiters to follow but obviously not. The question I was asking, was if you don't care about rights, and are happy to give them away, are you also happy to give away your human rights? But then some people on here even deny that there are such things as human rights
No the question you asked was "we can get rid of your human rights too then?" You really are dumb and I am tempted to tell you to stop digging holes but it is funny as fck
You should be a politician
I think I would have to write in crayons for you to be able to understand.
Stop thinking and listen. YOU wrote this and I quote once again
"we can get rid of your human rights too then?"
I say once again YOU YOU YOU wrote this you did you really did.
So we now at the point in the debate to see how deluded YOU are.
Did YOU yes YOU type them words?
And could you please paste that analogy about the chickens to me it was genius keep them coming
You must be pretending to be this daft right? You cant really be like this is real life, can you?
I can't believe that you are honestly struggling to follow such a simple line of questioning. You were saying its fine to take peoples rights away, so I asked if it would be ok to also take your human rights away with the question above. What's so complicated about that?
But again exactly what right would be losing if travel visas came back"Really? You don't know? You've honestly never heard of the 4 freedoms of the EU? | |||
"All human rights are rights, but not all rights are human rights. Like all chickens are birds, but not all birds are chickens. Sorry I thought I had dumbed it down enough for Brexiters to follow but obviously not. The question I was asking, was if you don't care about rights, and are happy to give them away, are you also happy to give away your human rights? But then some people on here even deny that there are such things as human rights
No the question you asked was "we can get rid of your human rights too then?" You really are dumb and I am tempted to tell you to stop digging holes but it is funny as fck
You should be a politician
I think I would have to write in crayons for you to be able to understand.
Stop thinking and listen. YOU wrote this and I quote once again
"we can get rid of your human rights too then?"
I say once again YOU YOU YOU wrote this you did you really did.
So we now at the point in the debate to see how deluded YOU are.
Did YOU yes YOU type them words?
And could you please paste that analogy about the chickens to me it was genius keep them coming
You must be pretending to be this daft right? You cant really be like this is real life, can you?
I can't believe that you are honestly struggling to follow such a simple line of questioning. You were saying its fine to take peoples rights away, so I asked if it would be ok to also take your human rights away with the question above. What's so complicated about that?
But again exactly what right would be losing if travel visas came back
Really? You don't know? You've honestly never heard of the 4 freedoms of the EU? "Simple holiday visas which is what weve been talking about are nothing to do with freedom of movement but i put it to you that you will still be able to live and work in all eu countries just not on a no questions asked basis i actually doubt any country will reintroduce travel visa just work visas and i have also said previously i would accept the 4 rights because we would not have to pay benefits so everybody coming would be coming to work | |||
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"All human rights are rights, but not all rights are human rights. Like all chickens are birds, but not all birds are chickens. Sorry I thought I had dumbed it down enough for Brexiters to follow but obviously not. The question I was asking, was if you don't care about rights, and are happy to give them away, are you also happy to give away your human rights? But then some people on here even deny that there are such things as human rights
No the question you asked was "we can get rid of your human rights too then?" You really are dumb and I am tempted to tell you to stop digging holes but it is funny as fck
You should be a politician
I think I would have to write in crayons for you to be able to understand.
Stop thinking and listen. YOU wrote this and I quote once again
"we can get rid of your human rights too then?"
I say once again YOU YOU YOU wrote this you did you really did.
So we now at the point in the debate to see how deluded YOU are.
Did YOU yes YOU type them words?
And could you please paste that analogy about the chickens to me it was genius keep them coming
You must be pretending to be this daft right? You cant really be like this is real life, can you?
I can't believe that you are honestly struggling to follow such a simple line of questioning. You were saying its fine to take peoples rights away, so I asked if it would be ok to also take your human rights away with the question above. What's so complicated about that?
But again exactly what right would be losing if travel visas came back
Really? You don't know? You've honestly never heard of the 4 freedoms of the EU?
Simple holiday visas which is what weve been talking about are nothing to do with freedom of movement but i put it to you that you will still be able to live and work in all eu countries just not on a no questions asked basis i actually doubt any country will reintroduce travel visa just work visas and i have also said previously i would accept the 4 rights because we would not have to pay benefits so everybody coming would be coming to work"So you are just struggling with understanding the concept of rights then? | |||
"Sorry been away was doing my esta for upcoming trip to usa boy it was hard took me all of five minutes To those against a visa system which really doesnt affect your life that much what would you prefer waking up to news of a paris style attack and knowing it might have been prevented with proper border control" Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." | |||
"All human rights are rights, but not all rights are human rights. Like all chickens are birds, but not all birds are chickens. Sorry I thought I had dumbed it down enough for Brexiters to follow but obviously not. The question I was asking, was if you don't care about rights, and are happy to give them away, are you also happy to give away your human rights? But then some people on here even deny that there are such things as human rights
No the question you asked was "we can get rid of your human rights too then?" You really are dumb and I am tempted to tell you to stop digging holes but it is funny as fck
You should be a politician
I think I would have to write in crayons for you to be able to understand.
Stop thinking and listen. YOU wrote this and I quote once again
"we can get rid of your human rights too then?"
I say once again YOU YOU YOU wrote this you did you really did.
So we now at the point in the debate to see how deluded YOU are.
Did YOU yes YOU type them words?
And could you please paste that analogy about the chickens to me it was genius keep them coming
You must be pretending to be this daft right? You cant really be like this is real life, can you?
I can't believe that you are honestly struggling to follow such a simple line of questioning. You were saying its fine to take peoples rights away, so I asked if it would be ok to also take your human rights away with the question above. What's so complicated about that?
But again exactly what right would be losing if travel visas came back
Really? You don't know? You've honestly never heard of the 4 freedoms of the EU?
Simple holiday visas which is what weve been talking about are nothing to do with freedom of movement but i put it to you that you will still be able to live and work in all eu countries just not on a no questions asked basis i actually doubt any country will reintroduce travel visa just work visas and i have also said previously i would accept the 4 rights because we would not have to pay benefits so everybody coming would be coming to work
So you are just struggling with understanding the concept of rights then? "No not at all i just dont believe they are being affected half as much as you do , you do realise british people lived and worked in europe long before the eu dont you? The thing is you are too young to remember pre eu days so are ultimately scared of change give may a chance she is far from stupid and could pleasantly surprise you | |||
"All human rights are rights, but not all rights are human rights. Like all chickens are birds, but not all birds are chickens. Sorry I thought I had dumbed it down enough for Brexiters to follow but obviously not. The question I was asking, was if you don't care about rights, and are happy to give them away, are you also happy to give away your human rights? But then some people on here even deny that there are such things as human rights
No the question you asked was "we can get rid of your human rights too then?" You really are dumb and I am tempted to tell you to stop digging holes but it is funny as fck
You should be a politician
I think I would have to write in crayons for you to be able to understand.
Stop thinking and listen. YOU wrote this and I quote once again
"we can get rid of your human rights too then?"
I say once again YOU YOU YOU wrote this you did you really did.
So we now at the point in the debate to see how deluded YOU are.
Did YOU yes YOU type them words?
And could you please paste that analogy about the chickens to me it was genius keep them coming
You must be pretending to be this daft right? You cant really be like this is real life, can you?
I can't believe that you are honestly struggling to follow such a simple line of questioning. You were saying its fine to take peoples rights away, so I asked if it would be ok to also take your human rights away with the question above. What's so complicated about that?
But again exactly what right would be losing if travel visas came back
Really? You don't know? You've honestly never heard of the 4 freedoms of the EU?
Simple holiday visas which is what weve been talking about are nothing to do with freedom of movement but i put it to you that you will still be able to live and work in all eu countries just not on a no questions asked basis i actually doubt any country will reintroduce travel visa just work visas and i have also said previously i would accept the 4 rights because we would not have to pay benefits so everybody coming would be coming to work
So you are just struggling with understanding the concept of rights then?
No not at all i just dont believe they are being affected half as much as you do , you do realise british people lived and worked in europe long before the eu dont you? The thing is you are too young to remember pre eu days so are ultimately scared of change give may a chance she is far from stupid and could pleasantly surprise you"It's not that I'm scared of change, I just don't like to see peoples rights being taken away. The concept you are repeatedly failing to grasp, is that although people worked and traveled in Europe before, they didn't have the right to do that. Also it's not just the rights of British citizens that are being taken away, it's the rights of EU citizens to come here. | |||
"Sorry been away was doing my esta for upcoming trip to usa boy it was hard took me all of five minutes To those against a visa system which really doesnt affect your life that much what would you prefer waking up to news of a paris style attack and knowing it might have been prevented with proper border control Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."" and a wise man once said the mad see only what they see | |||
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"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out No it wouldn't, that's preposterous. It's a UK points based system, we can set the points to be whatever we want and change them whenever we wan Err...read the FT article on points system. If we used the points system - immigration would go up. Not that the Brexiters bothered checking. Any ways, time to kick Mrs Farage out, The country is full ! Over crowded. Time to take back control by kicking Frau Farage out, I love the fact Ukippers squirm when you point out Mrs Farage is a kraut! Shows what hypocrites there are I have read it. It doesn't make any sense. It's just a fob off justification that fails basic logic. A points based system should just function like a normal market, have you ever tried to place a bet on something the bookies don't want bets on? They just adjust the odds to something stupid until things balance out. It's not difficult. Well -Mrs Farage has zero points. Null.Nada. Let's kick her out first. BuyMr Farage never doe that. Hmm..wonder why he never mentions his German wife to the flag waving little Englanders. They are too thick to realise. The problem with a points system is that it's based on observable qualifications ie degrees/wealth and not related to the job market. So could have lots of wealthy Chinese come but no farm workers. So will prob have a work permit scheme (if you give points for a particular job, then it becomes a work permit scheme effectively) The issue with a work permit scheme for the ukippers is that it will still mean lots of immigration. Who else will pick the strawberries, or be a nurse in some obscure place. Little englanders never realise who else is going to wipe the arse of some old person in a home in Hull but an immigrant. But feel free to apply for that job! Love to see the lazy Brexiters do all the bum wiping jobs. But once you have a work permit scheme, it's easy to set up a company and apply for work permits. Which of course makes all the Ukippers angry. I want my country back. I want my country back!! Oh by the way, enjoy the inflation coming your way with the £ drop" I went through the Australian PBS. I suggest you look closely and research it before you quote that it would increase migration and that it depends upon how wealthy you are. The PBS in australia is number restricted, and the Aussie government decide every couple of years what skills they require, and adjust accordingly. In 2014/15 it was restricted to about 128,000. There are massive differences between Australia and the UK, and their need to increase their population relative to our need. The points based system, based upon skills required by the country, is just one of a range of different immigration control mechanisms they use. We could quite easily decide what skills we require, how many people of those skills we need, and have a points system based upon that. | |||
" Try tell that to this family: ://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron Or these twenty familes: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government. So what you are saying is that you want totally open access to the uK for any and every single person in the world that wants to come in No, because UK citizens don't have the right to enter into every country in the world do we? I was saying let's keep the system that has served us extremely well for the last 40 years, a reciprocal agreement with other EU countries." So what you're saying is that we should only allow people to come here freely if we are able to go to their countries freely? | |||
"Since brexit is about reducing immigration - when are we going to deport Farage's German wife?! Farage is too stupid to get the hypocrisy Farage and UKIP have been very clear that EU citizens who came here legally before 23rd June should be allowed to stay. Once we leave the EU though then the free movement of people should stop as we take back control of our borders from the EU. What's the latest plan to actually achieve this not that points based system has been ruled out? May's justification for ruling it out was pathetic by the way. The points system would mean more immigration! The outers didn't even check their facts! Farage was a liar then and as he is now If there is too many immigrants in the UK - Farage can start putting his own house in order. Kick Mrs Farage out No it wouldn't, that's preposterous. It's a UK points based system, we can set the points to be whatever we want and change them whenever we want. Err...read the FT article on points system. If we used the points system - immigration would go up. Not that the Brexiters bothered checking. Any ways, time to kick Mrs Farage out, The country is full ! Over crowded. Time to take back control by kicking Frau Farage out, I love the fact Ukippers squirm when you point out Mrs Farage is a kraut! Shows what hypocrites there are" Only IF we awarded points in the exact way Australia do.....we could decide what and how many points to award for what. So nobody knows what numbers it would or would not allow! | |||
"Interesting though, that he was recently in the German embassy processing the dual nationality forms for his daughters, to ensure they got their dual UK /German nationality ( Germany is very strict on who can and can't have dual nationality - having one German parent doesn't automatically qualify you) and applying for it himself ( as someone married to a German national). Do you think he was asking for a special passport that doesn't say European union on it? Can't wait for my current British passport to expire. I want the new British passport with the words European Union removed.
You know what else will be removed? Your visa free travel in the EU, your right to live and work in every other EU country, your right to vote in European elections..... Should I go on?
Thats funny i lived and worked in spain before free movement existed wasnt exactly hard to do the paperwork and most tourist destinations have been visa free since the year dot so why would they suddenly introduce them
Exactly, saying people can't travel in Europe or work in Europe anymore is just hysterical ramblings of Sour faced Remoaners. Plus if I never have to vote in another European Parliament election again I'll be very happy about it.
It was actually easier to go to Spain in the 60's and 70's that it is now.
Holiday makers could travel to Spain (and quite a few other countries) on the old British Visitors Passport. They lasted for one year and you could pick one up at the post office for about a quid.
Yeah, I remember those paper passports from the local Post Office. And yeah, not being in the EU then didn't make a jot of difference to our travel in Europe. Before Schengen, I was coach driving and wagon driving in Europe and the Soviet bloc. We had our 'T' forms and waybills for the frontiers and of course we queued up to cross, but it was no drama. Just like crossing the Swiss border now really. I work worldwide and mostly get a VOA (visa on arrival) when I arrive in most countries. Again, it's really no drama....
Try tell that to this family:
://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/22/us-stops-british-muslim-family-flight-disneyland-david-cameron
Or these twenty familes:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/12065608/David-Cameron-urged-to-intervene-as-US-bans-Muslim-family.html
This is the difference between having a RIGHT, and having to apply for permission from the government.
And why should anyone other than a US national have the right to enter the US
The point I'm making is people are saying that there are no problems with visas, and I'm giving proof that there are problems with visas. "The report also goes on to say that one of the sons of the family in question had links to terrorist websites on his Facebook account. But this report was from December last year... 3.8 Million people travel to the USA every year... and there was a problem with less than 0.0001% of them. We deport a higher percentage than that! | |||
"If you guys aren't intelligent enough to understand the importance of rights then I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you.
ok, tell us the 'rights' you have at the moment when moving to another EU country to live and work? Spain is a popular destination so could you tell us the processes you have to go through before you can live and work there for longer than 3 months? Or aren't there any? You just have this assumed 'right' do you think?"Has CLCC answered this yet? | |||
"If you guys aren't intelligent enough to understand the importance of rights then I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you.
ok, tell us the 'rights' you have at the moment when moving to another EU country to live and work? Spain is a popular destination so could you tell us the processes you have to go through before you can live and work there for longer than 3 months? Or aren't there any? You just have this assumed 'right' do you think?
Has CLCC answered this yet?"Why, can't you figure out how to use Google yourself? You were obviously a fairly uninformed voter if you didnt even know what rights you were voting away. | |||
"If you guys aren't intelligent enough to understand the importance of rights then I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you.
ok, tell us the 'rights' you have at the moment when moving to another EU country to live and work? Spain is a popular destination so could you tell us the processes you have to go through before you can live and work there for longer than 3 months? Or aren't there any? You just have this assumed 'right' do you think?
Has CLCC answered this yet?"No they have not they changed the subject instead. | |||
"Farage is a cocksucker. Next!" I don't know if this is true, but I do know that he is a Fascist. I long for the good old days when we could shoot fascists. | |||
"Farage is a cocksucker. Next! I don't know if this is true, but I do know that he is a Fascist. I long for the good old days when we could shoot fascists. " When was that? | |||
"If you guys aren't intelligent enough to understand the importance of rights then I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you.
ok, tell us the 'rights' you have at the moment when moving to another EU country to live and work? Spain is a popular destination so could you tell us the processes you have to go through before you can live and work there for longer than 3 months? Or aren't there any? You just have this assumed 'right' do you think?
Has CLCC answered this yet?
Why, can't you figure out how to use Google yourself? You were obviously a fairly uninformed voter if you didnt even know what rights you were voting away."Wow! This from someone that a) can't read a 28 word question properly, (now that's stupidity for you), b) quotes Steve Keen, staunchly pro-Brexit, as one of their economic experts, and c) thinks human rights have anything to do with cross border freedom of movement (uninformed perhaps?) Oh, and blames any bit of bad news on Brexit, and yet anything positive has nothing to do with Brexit because 'it hasn't happened yet'. Clueless, with a distinct Lack of Coherent Comprehension. | |||
"If you guys aren't intelligent enough to understand the importance of rights then I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you.
ok, tell us the 'rights' you have at the moment when moving to another EU country to live and work? Spain is a popular destination so could you tell us the processes you have to go through before you can live and work there for longer than 3 months? Or aren't there any? You just have this assumed 'right' do you think?
Has CLCC answered this yet?
No they have not they changed the subject instead. "Really? Who'd have thought it. | |||
"If you guys aren't intelligent enough to understand the importance of rights then I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you.
ok, tell us the 'rights' you have at the moment when moving to another EU country to live and work? Spain is a popular destination so could you tell us the processes you have to go through before you can live and work there for longer than 3 months? Or aren't there any? You just have this assumed 'right' do you think?
Has CLCC answered this yet?
Why, can't you figure out how to use Google yourself? You were obviously a fairly uninformed voter if you didnt even know what rights you were voting away."Well if you have used google and are so informed maybe you can tell us what difference it will make when we leave the EU and what 'rights' we will have lost there? | |||
"Farage is a cocksucker. Next! I don't know if this is true, but I do know that he is a Fascist. I long for the good old days when we could shoot fascists. When was that?" Maybe he's talking about the days of WW2, those days when people could shoot communists too? | |||
"Farage is a cocksucker. Next! I don't know if this is true, but I do know that he is a Fascist. I long for the good old days when we could shoot fascists. When was that? Maybe he's talking about the days of WW2, those days when people could shoot communists too? " He's talking about the soviet union. Or maybe Mao's China. The looney left have a deep and rich history of denouncing everyone they disagree with as 'facists' and shooting them after a show trial. | |||
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