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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Who here think that the idea of more faith schools is a bad Idea ?"
when we talk about "faith Schools"... are we including catholic and CofE schools in the discussion... or are we only talking about the "nasty" religions.... |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Only a racist/bigot could assume that the question wasn't applicable to schools of all faiths.  "
not really..... but thanks for calling me a racist/bigot....;)
just asking because in the last set of figures that were release on the subject back in 2011
"In 2011, about one third of the 20,000 state funded schools in England were faith schools, approximately 7,000 in total, of which 68% were Church of England schools and 30% were Roman Catholic. There were 42 Jewish, 12 Muslim, 3 Sikh and 1 Hindu faith schools."
which would mean 98-99% of them were christian.....
so much question would be if you... or the OP have a problem with the amount of "christian based" faith schools... or is it the other 70 ish that gets the bloody boiling....
full discloure... i am a product of a catholic school education.... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I personally would live to see the end of all faith schools as I see it as irelivent to the practical education that we need to be able to get on in later life.
If you want to learn about religion then there are plenty of ways outside of school.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Who here think that the idea of more faith schools is a bad Idea ?"
I'm a capitalist so I think a parents right to choose is the most important factor.
Nothing about comprehensive schools makes Britain more inclusive or less divided. Attending one just made me realise how much chavs go about creating their own problems and the best thing is to move as far away from them as possible.
I probably would have had more sympathy for them / be more inclusive if I'd been a proper champagne socialist and gone to a grammar school where I could let Karl Marx tell me about the lives of the poor and the route of their problems. |
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"I personally would live to see the end of all faith schools as I see it as irelivent to the practical education that we need to be able to get on in later life.
If you want to learn about religion then there are plenty of ways outside of school.
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So it's the same as art, music and sport then? |
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My brother in law is a teacher at a catholic school, he got himself christened/baptized (whatever you call it) because apparently you can only climb the ladder so far before it becomes a barrier to promotion |
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"Who here think that the idea of more faith schools is a bad Idea ?
when we talk about "faith Schools"... are we including catholic and CofE schools in the discussion... or are we only talking about the "nasty" religions...."
I think you'd class a faith school as one which places specific religious requirements on entry.
Fabio did you find there was an overtly religious tone to the school or was it more a case of parents/students not taking the faith entirely sincerely (for want of a better phrase)?. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"Who here think that the idea of more faith schools is a bad Idea ?
I'm a capitalist so I think a parents right to choose is the most important factor.
Nothing about comprehensive schools makes Britain more inclusive or less divided. Attending one just made me realise how much chavs go about creating their own problems and the best thing is to move as far away from them as possible.
I probably would have had more sympathy for them / be more inclusive if I'd been a proper champagne socialist and gone to a grammar school where I could let Karl Marx tell me about the lives of the poor and the route of their problems. "
There is nothing but the illusion of choice for the millions of people who live in the countryside. If you live in the country the only school you can go to is the local one. There is no choice because you can't get to any other school. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Who here think that the idea of more faith schools is a bad Idea ?
I'm a capitalist so I think a parents right to choose is the most important factor.
Nothing about comprehensive schools makes Britain more inclusive or less divided. Attending one just made me realise how much chavs go about creating their own problems and the best thing is to move as far away from them as possible.
I probably would have had more sympathy for them / be more inclusive if I'd been a proper champagne socialist and gone to a grammar school where I could let Karl Marx tell me about the lives of the poor and the route of their problems.
There is nothing but the illusion of choice for the millions of people who live in the countryside. If you live in the country the only school you can go to is the local one. There is no choice because you can't get to any other school. "
Well in economic theory, that's what we call 'tough shit'. If you want the benefits of living in butt fuck nowhere then you have to accept the public services are going to be somewhat lacking. The reason the countryside is the countryside is because not a lot of people live there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Only a racist/bigot could assume that the question wasn't applicable to schools of all faiths.
not really..... but thanks for calling me a racist/bigot....;)
just asking because in the last set of figures that were release on the subject back in 2011
"In 2011, about one third of the 20,000 state funded schools in England were faith schools, approximately 7,000 in total, of which 68% were Church of England schools and 30% were Roman Catholic. There were 42 Jewish, 12 Muslim, 3 Sikh and 1 Hindu faith schools."
which would mean 98-99% of them were christian.....
so much question would be if you... or the OP have a problem with the amount of "christian based" faith schools... or is it the other 70 ish that gets the bloody boiling....
full discloure... i am a product of a catholic school education...."
you just can't help it can you? The Op asked a simple question about something that has been in the news all week. Why would his or my blood be boiling? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"Who here think that the idea of more faith schools is a bad Idea ?
I'm a capitalist so I think a parents right to choose is the most important factor.
Nothing about comprehensive schools makes Britain more inclusive or less divided. Attending one just made me realise how much chavs go about creating their own problems and the best thing is to move as far away from them as possible.
I probably would have had more sympathy for them / be more inclusive if I'd been a proper champagne socialist and gone to a grammar school where I could let Karl Marx tell me about the lives of the poor and the route of their problems.
There is nothing but the illusion of choice for the millions of people who live in the countryside. If you live in the country the only school you can go to is the local one. There is no choice because you can't get to any other school.
Well in economic theory, that's what we call 'tough shit'. If you want the benefits of living in butt fuck nowhere then you have to accept the public services are going to be somewhat lacking. The reason the countryside is the countryside is because not a lot of people live there. "
No, you said "a parents right to choose is the most important factor”. So surely you think that multiple schools should be available for everyone? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Who here think that the idea of more faith schools is a bad Idea ?
I'm a capitalist so I think a parents right to choose is the most important factor.
Nothing about comprehensive schools makes Britain more inclusive or less divided. Attending one just made me realise how much chavs go about creating their own problems and the best thing is to move as far away from them as possible.
I probably would have had more sympathy for them / be more inclusive if I'd been a proper champagne socialist and gone to a grammar school where I could let Karl Marx tell me about the lives of the poor and the route of their problems.
There is nothing but the illusion of choice for the millions of people who live in the countryside. If you live in the country the only school you can go to is the local one. There is no choice because you can't get to any other school.
Well in economic theory, that's what we call 'tough shit'. If you want the benefits of living in butt fuck nowhere then you have to accept the public services are going to be somewhat lacking. The reason the countryside is the countryside is because not a lot of people live there.
No, you said "a parents right to choose is the most important factor”. So surely you think that multiple schools should be available for everyone?"
I think its something the market should determine. Obviously if you choose to live in a field somewhere then supply will match demand. |
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"Who here think that the idea of more faith schools is a bad Idea ?
I'm a capitalist so I think a parents right to choose is the most important factor.
Nothing about comprehensive schools makes Britain more inclusive or less divided. Attending one just made me realise how much chavs go about creating their own problems and the best thing is to move as far away from them as possible.
I probably would have had more sympathy for them / be more inclusive if I'd been a proper champagne socialist and gone to a grammar school where I could let Karl Marx tell me about the lives of the poor and the route of their problems.
There is nothing but the illusion of choice for the millions of people who live in the countryside. If you live in the country the only school you can go to is the local one. There is no choice because you can't get to any other school.
Well in economic theory, that's what we call 'tough shit'. If you want the benefits of living in butt fuck nowhere then you have to accept the public services are going to be somewhat lacking. The reason the countryside is the countryside is because not a lot of people live there. "
hahahahaha you do spout some shit but that's the absolute zenith of ignorance |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Who here think that the idea of more faith schools is a bad Idea ?
I'm a capitalist so I think a parents right to choose is the most important factor.
Nothing about comprehensive schools makes Britain more inclusive or less divided. Attending one just made me realise how much chavs go about creating their own problems and the best thing is to move as far away from them as possible.
I probably would have had more sympathy for them / be more inclusive if I'd been a proper champagne socialist and gone to a grammar school where I could let Karl Marx tell me about the lives of the poor and the route of their problems.
There is nothing but the illusion of choice for the millions of people who live in the countryside. If you live in the country the only school you can go to is the local one. There is no choice because you can't get to any other school.
Well in economic theory, that's what we call 'tough shit'. If you want the benefits of living in butt fuck nowhere then you have to accept the public services are going to be somewhat lacking. The reason the countryside is the countryside is because not a lot of people live there.
hahahahaha you do spout some shit but that's the absolute zenith of ignorance "
Not surprised by the attitude of an anti-capitalist |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"Who here think that the idea of more faith schools is a bad Idea ?
I'm a capitalist so I think a parents right to choose is the most important factor.
Nothing about comprehensive schools makes Britain more inclusive or less divided. Attending one just made me realise how much chavs go about creating their own problems and the best thing is to move as far away from them as possible.
I probably would have had more sympathy for them / be more inclusive if I'd been a proper champagne socialist and gone to a grammar school where I could let Karl Marx tell me about the lives of the poor and the route of their problems.
There is nothing but the illusion of choice for the millions of people who live in the countryside. If you live in the country the only school you can go to is the local one. There is no choice because you can't get to any other school.
Well in economic theory, that's what we call 'tough shit'. If you want the benefits of living in butt fuck nowhere then you have to accept the public services are going to be somewhat lacking. The reason the countryside is the countryside is because not a lot of people live there.
No, you said "a parents right to choose is the most important factor”. So surely you think that multiple schools should be available for everyone?
I think its something the market should determine. Obviously if you choose to live in a field somewhere then supply will match demand. "
So the market is the most important thing then, not choice like you said earlier? Why dont you tell your efficient market joke again? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Who here think that the idea of more faith schools is a bad Idea ?
I'm a capitalist so I think a parents right to choose is the most important factor.
Nothing about comprehensive schools makes Britain more inclusive or less divided. Attending one just made me realise how much chavs go about creating their own problems and the best thing is to move as far away from them as possible.
I probably would have had more sympathy for them / be more inclusive if I'd been a proper champagne socialist and gone to a grammar school where I could let Karl Marx tell me about the lives of the poor and the route of their problems.
There is nothing but the illusion of choice for the millions of people who live in the countryside. If you live in the country the only school you can go to is the local one. There is no choice because you can't get to any other school.
Well in economic theory, that's what we call 'tough shit'. If you want the benefits of living in butt fuck nowhere then you have to accept the public services are going to be somewhat lacking. The reason the countryside is the countryside is because not a lot of people live there.
No, you said "a parents right to choose is the most important factor”. So surely you think that multiple schools should be available for everyone?
I think its something the market should determine. Obviously if you choose to live in a field somewhere then supply will match demand.
So the market is the most important thing then, not choice like you said earlier? Why dont you tell your efficient market joke again? "
If there's a market for something then you will have choice! I suppose you prefer ideology when making decisions? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"Who here think that the idea of more faith schools is a bad Idea ?
I'm a capitalist so I think a parents right to choose is the most important factor.
Nothing about comprehensive schools makes Britain more inclusive or less divided. Attending one just made me realise how much chavs go about creating their own problems and the best thing is to move as far away from them as possible.
I probably would have had more sympathy for them / be more inclusive if I'd been a proper champagne socialist and gone to a grammar school where I could let Karl Marx tell me about the lives of the poor and the route of their problems.
There is nothing but the illusion of choice for the millions of people who live in the countryside. If you live in the country the only school you can go to is the local one. There is no choice because you can't get to any other school.
Well in economic theory, that's what we call 'tough shit'. If you want the benefits of living in butt fuck nowhere then you have to accept the public services are going to be somewhat lacking. The reason the countryside is the countryside is because not a lot of people live there.
No, you said "a parents right to choose is the most important factor”. So surely you think that multiple schools should be available for everyone?
I think its something the market should determine. Obviously if you choose to live in a field somewhere then supply will match demand.
So the market is the most important thing then, not choice like you said earlier? Why dont you tell your efficient market joke again?
If there's a market for something then you will have choice! I suppose you prefer ideology when making decisions? "
Before you were saying how ineffective markets were, now you seem to be suggesting they are good. What else should be a market economy? Healthcare? Defence? Social security? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Who here think that the idea of more faith schools is a bad Idea ?
I'm a capitalist so I think a parents right to choose is the most important factor.
Nothing about comprehensive schools makes Britain more inclusive or less divided. Attending one just made me realise how much chavs go about creating their own problems and the best thing is to move as far away from them as possible.
I probably would have had more sympathy for them / be more inclusive if I'd been a proper champagne socialist and gone to a grammar school where I could let Karl Marx tell me about the lives of the poor and the route of their problems.
There is nothing but the illusion of choice for the millions of people who live in the countryside. If you live in the country the only school you can go to is the local one. There is no choice because you can't get to any other school.
Well in economic theory, that's what we call 'tough shit'. If you want the benefits of living in butt fuck nowhere then you have to accept the public services are going to be somewhat lacking. The reason the countryside is the countryside is because not a lot of people live there.
No, you said "a parents right to choose is the most important factor”. So surely you think that multiple schools should be available for everyone?
I think its something the market should determine. Obviously if you choose to live in a field somewhere then supply will match demand.
So the market is the most important thing then, not choice like you said earlier? Why dont you tell your efficient market joke again?
If there's a market for something then you will have choice! I suppose you prefer ideology when making decisions?
Before you were saying how ineffective markets were, now you seem to be suggesting they are good. What else should be a market economy? Healthcare? Defence? Social security? "
Not ineffective, subject to bias in some areas. However, rural education services are unlikely to be overlooked due to those biases.
In answer to your other questions, healthcare- yes, with state backed insurance for all, defence forces - no, defence equipment - yes, social security is a tax so not sure what you were asking there? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Who here think that the idea of more faith schools is a bad Idea ?
when we talk about "faith Schools"... are we including catholic and CofE schools in the discussion... or are we only talking about the "nasty" religions...."
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That's a strange one as I consider catholic faith schools one of the nasty ones.... Have you ever been hit by a nun!!.
I have, bloody hurts, still it did me good in the long run.... Apparently |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Faith schools are alright providing you want your children to grow up paranoid about sex or wanking, confused about their origins, sexist, racist, bigoted and homophobic.... But boy they'll have grounding!!!
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As a product of a faith school I can firmly state I wouldn't send my fucking dog to one, I've rarely met a catholic priest I could trust with my dog let alone my fucking kids...
Paranoid delusional schizophrenic teachers who just can't wait to brainwash children with utter utter bollocks, while the parents are akin to that lot who sent their kid off with Micheal Jackson for a weekend in gay Paris...I don't mean to be harsh but really... It's the 21st fucking century. Move a fucking long  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Faith schools are alright providing you want your children to grow up paranoid about sex or wanking, confused about their origins, sexist, racist, bigoted and homophobic.... But boy they'll have grounding!!!
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As a product of a faith school I can firmly state I wouldn't send my fucking dog to one, I've rarely met a catholic priest I could trust with my dog let alone my fucking kids...
Paranoid delusional schizophrenic teachers who just can't wait to brainwash children with utter utter bollocks, while the parents are akin to that lot who sent their kid off with Micheal Jackson for a weekend in gay Paris...I don't mean to be harsh but really... It's the 21st fucking century. Move a fucking long "
Likewise, comprehensive schools are socialist brain washing camps staffed almost entirely by labour voters. I wouldn't send my cat to one either. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Faith schools are alright providing you want your children to grow up paranoid about sex or wanking, confused about their origins, sexist, racist, bigoted and homophobic.... But boy they'll have grounding!!!
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As a product of a faith school I can firmly state I wouldn't send my fucking dog to one, I've rarely met a catholic priest I could trust with my dog let alone my fucking kids...
Paranoid delusional schizophrenic teachers who just can't wait to brainwash children with utter utter bollocks, while the parents are akin to that lot who sent their kid off with Micheal Jackson for a weekend in gay Paris...I don't mean to be harsh but really... It's the 21st fucking century. Move a fucking long
Likewise, comprehensive schools are socialist brain washing camps staffed almost entirely by labour voters. I wouldn't send my cat to one either. "
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You never told me you had a cat?... That's interesting |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I should imagine the Muslim, Jewish, sikh, Mormon, rest of the bollocks are pretty much the same claptrap
You leave the Mormons out of this "
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I reserve special contempt for them fuckwits  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I should imagine the Muslim, Jewish, sikh, Mormon, rest of the bollocks are pretty much the same claptrap
You leave the Mormons out of this ..
I reserve special contempt for them fuckwits "
I'd expect that have a lot in common with communists in the sense that it takes skill to believe something that stupid.
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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Children should be educated in all faiths in school that way they will not be as ignorant as so many are.
They shuld learn and understand that religion is about freedom and people can practice what they wish.
This is however a Christian country and all children should learn about the true meaning of it about peace and love.
Something missing in this nasty little world we live in ,full if biggots and ignorance. |
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At the end of the day your personal feelings about religion should play second fiddle to the quality of your kids education. From what I've seen and also read, Catholic schools are some of the most well run inclusive schools in this country. A country where weer could do well to restore more traditional practices to education. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I personally would live to see the end of all faith schools as I see it as irelivent to the practical education that we need to be able to get on in later life.
If you want to learn about religion then there are plenty of ways outside of school.
So it's the same as art, music and sport then? "
No that's not quite the same thing is it? Music art and sport are all inclusive.
Religion is is more of a of exclusive club as in if you don't belive then you don't belong.
My son goes to a college and the college is a catholic one.
We are not Catholics but its compolsory to attend a religious lesson even though he has no intrest in it.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"My brother in law is a teacher at a catholic school, he got himself christened/baptized (whatever you call it) because apparently you can only climb the ladder so far before it becomes a barrier to promotion "
One of my friends wanted to marry a catholic but he had been devorced so he had to one get the devorced anald by the Catholic Church this involved having interviews and I had to go to one as well as a witness.
Then convert to Catholicism pay money to the church for the privilege of this.
He was skint so was allowed to pay in instalments but they would not complete everything until the last payment had gone through  .
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I personally would live to see the end of all faith schools as I see it as irelivent to the practical education that we need to be able to get on in later life.
If you want to learn about religion then there are plenty of ways outside of school.
So it's the same as art, music and sport then?
No that's not quite the same thing is it? Music art and sport are all inclusive.
Religion is is more of a of exclusive club as in if you don't belive then you don't belong.
My son goes to a college and the college is a catholic one.
We are not Catholics but its compolsory to attend a religious lesson even though he has no intrest in it.
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So religion is exclusive and your evidence is that your non-Catholic son attends a Catholic school. Do I really need to explain the contradiction in your arguement  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Personally I don't think religion has any place in a school of any faith, because that's exactly what it is "faith" , it's not a fact driven subject, there's nothing that can be proven about religion as to actually learn anything concrete from it.
Religous beliefs should be taught from the home if the household is religious plus there's no shortage of places of worship either but school's shouldn't be divided between religious beliefs.
Now a school having a lesson dedicated to teaching the idea behind different religious beliefs is fine but they should never try telling kids of any age it's anywhere near a fact, praying to a god etc
All school's should be totally neutral of religious ideology & leave religon to the families there own way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Personally I don't think religion has any place in a school of any faith, because that's exactly what it is "faith" , it's not a fact driven subject, there's nothing that can be proven about religion as to actually learn anything concrete from it.
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So you can't learn anything concrete from art subjects, only sciences? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Personally I don't think religion has any place in a school of any faith, because that's exactly what it is "faith" , it's not a fact driven subject, there's nothing that can be proven about religion as to actually learn anything concrete from it.
So you can't learn anything concrete from art subjects, only sciences? "
I said nothing of the sort and i don't really get what you're trying to say ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Personally I don't think religion has any place in a school of any faith, because that's exactly what it is "faith" , it's not a fact driven subject, there's nothing that can be proven about religion as to actually learn anything concrete from it.
So you can't learn anything concrete from art subjects, only sciences?
I said nothing of the sort and i don't really get what you're trying to say ? "
I just didn't understand the paragraph you wrote / I quoted. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If you really want to teach your children that when you masterbate you should go and confess it to the priest because it's a sin... Then fine send your children to a faith school and brag to your friends about fucking great the results at the school are!... Personally I don't want to teach my kids homophobia... But why is it dad?... because the good book says it is... Now shut up and read revelations  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you really want to teach your children that when you masterbate you should go and confess it to the priest because it's a sin... Then fine send your children to a faith school and brag to your friends about fucking great the results at the school are!... Personally I don't want to teach my kids homophobia... But why is it dad?... because the good book says it is... Now shut up and read revelations "
As a lefty, you should really learn more about saying one thing and doing another.
I'd rather my son got told whacking off was wrong and went home and did it anyway. Rather than what I got told but my comprehensive school maths teacher (an atheist, communist), that amassing wealth was immoral and wrong. Well there's a great example for kids, don't try hard as school kids because if you do well then you're putting everyone else down! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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l'd send my child to a Jewish or Christian faith school.
l like grammar schools as well. My granparents passe their 11 plus exams and got a private education that thy otherwise couldn't.
Equal opportunity that rewards brains over the leftist dream of equal outcomes. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I personally would live to see the end of all faith schools as I see it as irelivent to the practical education that we need to be able to get on in later life.
If you want to learn about religion then there are plenty of ways outside of school.
So it's the same as art, music and sport then?
No that's not quite the same thing is it? Music art and sport are all inclusive.
Religion is is more of a of exclusive club as in if you don't belive then you don't belong.
My son goes to a college and the college is a catholic one.
We are not Catholics but its compolsory to attend a religious lesson even though he has no intrest in it.
So religion is exclusive and your evidence is that your non-Catholic son attends a Catholic school. Do I really need to explain the contradiction in your arguement "
No it's because it a collage and its either that one which is closer and suits his needs or a further away one which is a Christian collage again we are not really Christians either |
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"If you really want to teach your children that when you masterbate you should go and confess it to the priest because it's a sin... Then fine send your children to a faith school and brag to your friends about fucking great the results at the school are!... Personally I don't want to teach my kids homophobia... But why is it dad?... because the good book says it is... Now shut up and read revelations
As a lefty, you should really learn more about saying one thing and doing another.
I'd rather my son got told whacking off was wrong and went home and did it anyway. Rather than what I got told but my comprehensive school maths teacher (an atheist, communist), that amassing wealth was immoral and wrong. Well there's a great example for kids, don't try hard as school kids because if you do well then you're putting everyone else down! "
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You do realise that the Jesus said amassing wealth was morally wrong!... Maybe he was a socialist.
I've got no problem in telling kids not to whack off...I have a problem in instilling the image that it's a mortal sin and shameful.... Religion at its core takes humans away from the animal kingdom for which they belong and places them at a mythical higher power, only here because of a higher power, it removes your connection to what you actually are.... An intelligent ape |
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"l'd send my child to a Jewish or Christian faith school.
l like grammar schools as well. My granparents passe their 11 plus exams and got a private education that thy otherwise couldn't.
Equal opportunity that rewards brains over the leftist dream of equal outcomes."
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Good luck with that foreskin dilemma!.
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"If you really want to teach your children that when you masterbate you should go and confess it to the priest because it's a sin... Then fine send your children to a faith school and brag to your friends about fucking great the results at the school are!... Personally I don't want to teach my kids homophobia... But why is it dad?... because the good book says it is... Now shut up and read revelations
As a lefty, you should really learn more about saying one thing and doing another.
I'd rather my son got told whacking off was wrong and went home and did it anyway. Rather than what I got told but my comprehensive school maths teacher (an atheist, communist), that amassing wealth was immoral and wrong. Well there's a great example for kids, don't try hard as school kids because if you do well then you're putting everyone else down! .
You do realise that the Jesus said amassing wealth was morally wrong!... Maybe he was a socialist.
I've got no problem in telling kids not to whack off...I have a problem in instilling the image that it's a mortal sin and shameful.... Religion at its core takes humans away from the animal kingdom for which they belong and places them at a mythical higher power, only here because of a higher power, it removes your connection to what you actually are.... An intelligent ape"
And what did Hobbes tell you about a world full of people following animal instincts?
It's a venial sin not a mortal one and Jesus never said don't amass wealth. |
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"I personally would live to see the end of all faith schools as I see it as irelivent to the practical education that we need to be able to get on in later life.
If you want to learn about religion then there are plenty of ways outside of school.
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"l'd send my child to a Jewish or Christian faith school.
l like grammar schools as well. My granparents passe their 11 plus exams and got a private education that thy otherwise couldn't.
Equal opportunity that rewards brains over the leftist dream of equal outcomes..
Good luck with that foreskin dilemma!.
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Lol. And the Christian School would obviously be a Protestant one. l don't want Father O'Reilly and the gang around my boy  |
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"If you really want to teach your children that when you masterbate you should go and confess it to the priest because it's a sin... Then fine send your children to a faith school and brag to your friends about fucking great the results at the school are!... Personally I don't want to teach my kids homophobia... But why is it dad?... because the good book says it is... Now shut up and read revelations
As a lefty, you should really learn more about saying one thing and doing another.
I'd rather my son got told whacking off was wrong and went home and did it anyway. Rather than what I got told but my comprehensive school maths teacher (an atheist, communist), that amassing wealth was immoral and wrong. Well there's a great example for kids, don't try hard as school kids because if you do well then you're putting everyone else down! .
You do realise that the Jesus said amassing wealth was morally wrong!... Maybe he was a socialist.
I've got no problem in telling kids not to whack off...I have a problem in instilling the image that it's a mortal sin and shameful.... Religion at its core takes humans away from the animal kingdom for which they belong and places them at a mythical higher power, only here because of a higher power, it removes your connection to what you actually are.... An intelligent ape
And what did Hobbes tell you about a world full of people following animal instincts?
It's a venial sin not a mortal one and Jesus never said don't amass wealth. "
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Were on a website that promotes animal instincts?.
I must have misread the bit when he threw the moneymakers out of the temple or that meek inheriting the earth or that all you need is love DA DA DA all you need is love love love, I'll feed you all with two fishes and five loafs... Hallelujah praise the socialist because he definitely said everybody's equal!!.
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"l'd send my child to a Jewish or Christian faith school.
l like grammar schools as well. My granparents passe their 11 plus exams and got a private education that thy otherwise couldn't.
Equal opportunity that rewards brains over the leftist dream of equal outcomes..
Good luck with that foreskin dilemma!.
Lol. And the Christian School would obviously be a Protestant one. l don't want Father O'Reilly and the gang around my boy "
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Ohhhh the secret we don't talk about but whisper quietly amongst the town..... Don't leave your lad alone with father Murphy |
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"If you really want to teach your children that when you masterbate you should go and confess it to the priest because it's a sin... Then fine send your children to a faith school and brag to your friends about fucking great the results at the school are!... Personally I don't want to teach my kids homophobia... But why is it dad?... because the good book says it is... Now shut up and read revelations
As a lefty, you should really learn more about saying one thing and doing another.
I'd rather my son got told whacking off was wrong and went home and did it anyway. Rather than what I got told but my comprehensive school maths teacher (an atheist, communist), that amassing wealth was immoral and wrong. Well there's a great example for kids, don't try hard as school kids because if you do well then you're putting everyone else down! .
You do realise that the Jesus said amassing wealth was morally wrong!... Maybe he was a socialist.
I've got no problem in telling kids not to whack off...I have a problem in instilling the image that it's a mortal sin and shameful.... Religion at its core takes humans away from the animal kingdom for which they belong and places them at a mythical higher power, only here because of a higher power, it removes your connection to what you actually are.... An intelligent ape
And what did Hobbes tell you about a world full of people following animal instincts?
It's a venial sin not a mortal one and Jesus never said don't amass wealth. .
Were on a website that promotes animal instincts?.
I must have misread the bit when he threw the moneymakers out of the temple or that meek inheriting the earth or that all you need is love DA DA DA all you need is love love love, I'll feed you all with two fishes and five loafs... Hallelujah praise the socialist because he definitely said everybody's equal!!.
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You need to reexamine your indoctrination "
Fair bit of selective reading there. Never thought I'd be debating the bible on a swinging forum but anyway. The problem wasn't with the money makers making money, it was that the money makers were making money where they should have been praying. |
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"Faith schools are alright providing you want your children to grow up paranoid about sex or wanking, confused about their origins, sexist, racist, bigoted and homophobic.... But boy they'll have grounding!!!
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As a product of a faith school I can firmly state I wouldn't send my fucking dog to one, I've rarely met a catholic priest I could trust with my dog let alone my fucking kids...
Paranoid delusional schizophrenic teachers who just can't wait to brainwash children with utter utter bollocks, while the parents are akin to that lot who sent their kid off with Micheal Jackson for a weekend in gay Paris...I don't mean to be harsh but really... It's the 21st fucking century. Move a fucking long
Likewise, comprehensive schools are socialist brain washing camps staffed almost entirely by labour voters. I wouldn't send my cat to one either. "
I actually think you talk a load of balls tbh...i went to a comprehensive school..and ive been very successful in business throughout my lifetime...along with a few of my mates who are actually now multimillionaires...so to talk about comprehensive schools being socialist brainwashing academies is totally wrong...i think you need to do a bit more research into things before you open your mouth lol |
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"Faith schools are alright providing you want your children to grow up paranoid about sex or wanking, confused about their origins, sexist, racist, bigoted and homophobic.... But boy they'll have grounding!!!
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As a product of a faith school I can firmly state I wouldn't send my fucking dog to one, I've rarely met a catholic priest I could trust with my dog let alone my fucking kids...
Paranoid delusional schizophrenic teachers who just can't wait to brainwash children with utter utter bollocks, while the parents are akin to that lot who sent their kid off with Micheal Jackson for a weekend in gay Paris...I don't mean to be harsh but really... It's the 21st fucking century. Move a fucking long
Likewise, comprehensive schools are socialist brain washing camps staffed almost entirely by labour voters. I wouldn't send my cat to one either.
I actually think you talk a load of balls tbh...i went to a comprehensive school..and ive been very successful in business throughout my lifetime...along with a few of my mates who are actually now multimillionaires...so to talk about comprehensive schools being socialist brainwashing academies is totally wrong...i think you need to do a bit more research into things before you open your mouth lol "
Well it's nice to meet a fellow comprehensive school survivor
Most kids go to one so it's inevitable that some people will go on to be successful despite their school. What I'm saying is that they are depressing places that do their best to suck the ambition out of the people that aren't as ambitious as you.
Are you going to pretend that comprehensive school teachers are a highly diversified group that evenly represent the general population? Or can we acknowledge that teaching is the most unionised job in the country and there's a particular political party that gets the majority of its funding via trade unions? |
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"Faith schools are alright providing you want your children to grow up paranoid about sex or wanking, confused about their origins, sexist, racist, bigoted and homophobic.... But boy they'll have grounding!!!
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As a product of a faith school I can firmly state I wouldn't send my fucking dog to one, I've rarely met a catholic priest I could trust with my dog let alone my fucking kids...
Paranoid delusional schizophrenic teachers who just can't wait to brainwash children with utter utter bollocks, while the parents are akin to that lot who sent their kid off with Micheal Jackson for a weekend in gay Paris...I don't mean to be harsh but really... It's the 21st fucking century. Move a fucking long
Likewise, comprehensive schools are socialist brain washing camps staffed almost entirely by labour voters. I wouldn't send my cat to one either.
I actually think you talk a load of balls tbh...i went to a comprehensive school..and ive been very successful in business throughout my lifetime...along with a few of my mates who are actually now multimillionaires...so to talk about comprehensive schools being socialist brainwashing academies is totally wrong...i think you need to do a bit more research into things before you open your mouth lol
Well it's nice to meet a fellow comprehensive school survivor
Most kids go to one so it's inevitable that some people will go on to be successful despite their school. What I'm saying is that they are depressing places that do their best to suck the ambition out of the people that aren't as ambitious as you.
Are you going to pretend that comprehensive school teachers are a highly diversified group that evenly represent the general population? Or can we acknowledge that teaching is the most unionised job in the country and there's a particular political party that gets the majority of its funding via trade unions? "
My daughter in law teaches in one...so yes i would and will challenge you on it....see personally i don't think its the kids or the teaches that's the problem...the parents of these kids have a lot to answer to....and i can honestly say my daughter in law is very no political...and you could twist the funding thing on the head...where are the tory party funded from ????? |
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"Personally I don't think religion has any place in a school of any faith, because that's exactly what it is "faith" , it's not a fact driven subject, there's nothing that can be proven about religion as to actually learn anything concrete from it.
So you can't learn anything concrete from art subjects, only sciences?
I said nothing of the sort and i don't really get what you're trying to say ?
I just didn't understand the paragraph you wrote / I quoted."
I didn't really think it could be clearer....
Religon is just a belief, there's no actual proof or facts or evidence that anything to do with there being any kind of god exists.
Religon is nothing short of a glorified story but with many different versions of the same story that creates such divide in cultures & communities it's unbelievable and it's not the sort of unprovable myth that should devide a place of education for children.
Teaching that some people believe in religon and there's many different types is one thing but having schools that depend on you having a certain belief for you to attend is another.... That's what Churches , Mosques , Synagogues etc are there for. |
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"Faith schools are alright providing you want your children to grow up paranoid about sex or wanking, confused about their origins, sexist, racist, bigoted and homophobic.... But boy they'll have grounding!!!
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As a product of a faith school I can firmly state I wouldn't send my fucking dog to one, I've rarely met a catholic priest I could trust with my dog let alone my fucking kids...
Paranoid delusional schizophrenic teachers who just can't wait to brainwash children with utter utter bollocks, while the parents are akin to that lot who sent their kid off with Micheal Jackson for a weekend in gay Paris...I don't mean to be harsh but really... It's the 21st fucking century. Move a fucking long
Likewise, comprehensive schools are socialist brain washing camps staffed almost entirely by labour voters. I wouldn't send my cat to one either.
I actually think you talk a load of balls tbh...i went to a comprehensive school..and ive been very successful in business throughout my lifetime...along with a few of my mates who are actually now multimillionaires...so to talk about comprehensive schools being socialist brainwashing academies is totally wrong...i think you need to do a bit more research into things before you open your mouth lol "
You failed your 11 plus then? xD
I don't think you can comment on the state of modern comprehensives since it's been over 40 years since you were at one. |
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"Faith schools are alright providing you want your children to grow up paranoid about sex or wanking, confused about their origins, sexist, racist, bigoted and homophobic.... But boy they'll have grounding!!!
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As a product of a faith school I can firmly state I wouldn't send my fucking dog to one, I've rarely met a catholic priest I could trust with my dog let alone my fucking kids...
Paranoid delusional schizophrenic teachers who just can't wait to brainwash children with utter utter bollocks, while the parents are akin to that lot who sent their kid off with Micheal Jackson for a weekend in gay Paris...I don't mean to be harsh but really... It's the 21st fucking century. Move a fucking long
Likewise, comprehensive schools are socialist brain washing camps staffed almost entirely by labour voters. I wouldn't send my cat to one either.
I actually think you talk a load of balls tbh...i went to a comprehensive school..and ive been very successful in business throughout my lifetime...along with a few of my mates who are actually now multimillionaires...so to talk about comprehensive schools being socialist brainwashing academies is totally wrong...i think you need to do a bit more research into things before you open your mouth lol
You failed your 11 plus then? xD
I don't think you can comment on the state of modern comprehensives since it's been over 40 years since you were at one."
Actually i didnt...my parents choose the school for me....and if anything...when i WENT to school they were more unionised then they are now....remember the three day a week etc etc ...rubbish piling up on the streets...and as i said my daughter in law is head of maths in one...and shes not political one bit....maybe these commie teachers as your infererating are just standing up for there beliefs...ever thought of that... |
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"Faith schools are alright providing you want your children to grow up paranoid about sex or wanking, confused about their origins, sexist, racist, bigoted and homophobic.... But boy they'll have grounding!!!
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As a product of a faith school I can firmly state I wouldn't send my fucking dog to one, I've rarely met a catholic priest I could trust with my dog let alone my fucking kids...
Paranoid delusional schizophrenic teachers who just can't wait to brainwash children with utter utter bollocks, while the parents are akin to that lot who sent their kid off with Micheal Jackson for a weekend in gay Paris...I don't mean to be harsh but really... It's the 21st fucking century. Move a fucking long
Likewise, comprehensive schools are socialist brain washing camps staffed almost entirely by labour voters. I wouldn't send my cat to one either.
I actually think you talk a load of balls tbh...i went to a comprehensive school..and ive been very successful in business throughout my lifetime...along with a few of my mates who are actually now multimillionaires...so to talk about comprehensive schools being socialist brainwashing academies is totally wrong...i think you need to do a bit more research into things before you open your mouth lol
Well it's nice to meet a fellow comprehensive school survivor
Most kids go to one so it's inevitable that some people will go on to be successful despite their school. What I'm saying is that they are depressing places that do their best to suck the ambition out of the people that aren't as ambitious as you.
Are you going to pretend that comprehensive school teachers are a highly diversified group that evenly represent the general population? Or can we acknowledge that teaching is the most unionised job in the country and there's a particular political party that gets the majority of its funding via trade unions?
My daughter in law teaches in one...so yes i would and will challenge you on it....see personally i don't think its the kids or the teaches that's the problem...the parents of these kids have a lot to answer to....and i can honestly say my daughter in law is very no political...and you could twist the funding thing on the head...where are the tory party funded from ????? "
So because you know one exception to the rule then the link between labour and trade unions is imagined and teachers aren't the most unionised job in the country? I think its you that needs to do more research. |
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"Faith schools are alright providing you want your children to grow up paranoid about sex or wanking, confused about their origins, sexist, racist, bigoted and homophobic.... But boy they'll have grounding!!!
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As a product of a faith school I can firmly state I wouldn't send my fucking dog to one, I've rarely met a catholic priest I could trust with my dog let alone my fucking kids...
Paranoid delusional schizophrenic teachers who just can't wait to brainwash children with utter utter bollocks, while the parents are akin to that lot who sent their kid off with Micheal Jackson for a weekend in gay Paris...I don't mean to be harsh but really... It's the 21st fucking century. Move a fucking long
Likewise, comprehensive schools are socialist brain washing camps staffed almost entirely by labour voters. I wouldn't send my cat to one either.
I actually think you talk a load of balls tbh...i went to a comprehensive school..and ive been very successful in business throughout my lifetime...along with a few of my mates who are actually now multimillionaires...so to talk about comprehensive schools being socialist brainwashing academies is totally wrong...i think you need to do a bit more research into things before you open your mouth lol
You failed your 11 plus then? xD
I don't think you can comment on the state of modern comprehensives since it's been over 40 years since you were at one.
Actually i didnt...my parents choose the school for me....and if anything...when i WENT to school they were more unionised then they are now....remember the three day a week etc etc ...rubbish piling up on the streets...and as i said my daughter in law is head of maths in one...and shes not political one bit....maybe these commie teachers as your infererating are just standing up for there beliefs...ever thought of that... "
There's nothing inherently good about standing up for your beliefs. |
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"Personally I don't think religion has any place in a school of any faith, because that's exactly what it is "faith" , it's not a fact driven subject, there's nothing that can be proven about religion as to actually learn anything concrete from it.
So you can't learn anything concrete from art subjects, only sciences?
I said nothing of the sort and i don't really get what you're trying to say ?
I just didn't understand the paragraph you wrote / I quoted.
I didn't really think it could be clearer....
Religon is just a belief, there's no actual proof or facts or evidence that anything to do with there being any kind of god exists.
Religon is nothing short of a glorified story but with many different versions of the same story that creates such divide in cultures & communities it's unbelievable and it's not the sort of unprovable myth that should devide a place of education for children.
Teaching that some people believe in religon and there's many different types is one thing but having schools that depend on you having a certain belief for you to attend is another.... That's what Churches , Mosques , Synagogues etc are there for."
There are plenty of facts that the people mentioned in the new testament existed. Whether or not you believe they had anything to do with a supernatural being is up for debate. Either way, I could make all the same arguements about literature, philosophy etc. You can't possibly understand how governments came to exist without understanding the role of religion in society so the idea there's nothing you can learn from it is heavily flawed, whether you believe in a super natural being or not. |
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"Personally I don't think religion has any place in a school of any faith, because that's exactly what it is "faith" , it's not a fact driven subject, there's nothing that can be proven about religion as to actually learn anything concrete from it.
So you can't learn anything concrete from art subjects, only sciences?
I said nothing of the sort and i don't really get what you're trying to say ?
I just didn't understand the paragraph you wrote / I quoted.
I didn't really think it could be clearer....
Religon is just a belief, there's no actual proof or facts or evidence that anything to do with there being any kind of god exists.
Religon is nothing short of a glorified story but with many different versions of the same story that creates such divide in cultures & communities it's unbelievable and it's not the sort of unprovable myth that should devide a place of education for children.
Teaching that some people believe in religon and there's many different types is one thing but having schools that depend on you having a certain belief for you to attend is another.... That's what Churches , Mosques , Synagogues etc are there for.
There are plenty of facts that the people mentioned in the new testament existed. Whether or not you believe they had anything to do with a supernatural being is up for debate. Either way, I could make all the same arguements about literature, philosophy etc. You can't possibly understand how governments came to exist without understanding the role of religion in society so the idea there's nothing you can learn from it is heavily flawed, whether you believe in a super natural being or not. "
Yep. The criterion of embarrassment and the uniqueness of his message being the main evidence. |
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