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over a year ago
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Theresa May mastered the art of speaking without saying anything today. Such epic quotes as:
- "Brexit may bring difficult times"
- "What I am is optimistic"
- we want "an independent Britain, forging our own way in the world"
Learn to speak English you fecking moron. Those statements could mean anything. It's as bad as the looney left talking about 'greed' as the source of all evil. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Theresa May mastered the art of speaking without saying anything today. Such epic quotes as:
- "Brexit may bring difficult times"
- "What I am is optimistic"
- we want "an independent Britain, forging our own way in the world"
Learn to speak English you fecking moron. Those statements could mean anything. It's as bad as the looney left talking about 'greed' as the source of all evil. "
To be fair, she is in an impossible position which the Japanese PM pointed out quite concisely. She just can't say what position the UK will have in Europe and the world without causing either political or economic repercussions- depending on what she says.
There is no easy option other than hanging on and drip feeding leaks as a way of guaging public opinion before announcing what an acceptable Brexit might look like sometime next year, or maybe later. She needs a Brexit solution that will satisfy both sides of the divided country and one which will not frighten off international investment (as per the Japanese PM remarks). |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Theresa May mastered the art of speaking without saying anything today. Such epic quotes as:
- "Brexit may bring difficult times"
- "What I am is optimistic"
- we want "an independent Britain, forging our own way in the world"
Learn to speak English you fecking moron. Those statements could mean anything. It's as bad as the looney left talking about 'greed' as the source of all evil.
To be fair, she is in an impossible position which the Japanese PM pointed out quite concisely. She just can't say what position the UK will have in Europe and the world without causing either political or economic repercussions- depending on what she says.
There is no easy option other than hanging on and drip feeding leaks as a way of guaging public opinion before announcing what an acceptable Brexit might look like sometime next year, or maybe later. She needs a Brexit solution that will satisfy both sides of the divided country and one which will not frighten off international investment (as per the Japanese PM remarks)."
But why do they feel compelled to say anything when there's nothing to say!?
It's just an insult to our intelligence to ramble for so long. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Theresa May mastered the art of speaking without saying anything today. Such epic quotes as:
- "Brexit may bring difficult times"
- "What I am is optimistic"
- we want "an independent Britain, forging our own way in the world"
Learn to speak English you fecking moron. Those statements could mean anything. It's as bad as the looney left talking about 'greed' as the source of all evil. "
Struggling to see an issue with any of those 3 quotes. They all make sense. Maybe its your English that is lacking  |
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"What about the classic "Brexit means Brexit"?"
Said to make it clear to all the whiney twats we will be leaving the EU and there wont be another referendum.
Unfortunately the whiney twats didn't understand  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What about the classic "Brexit means Brexit"?
Said to make it clear to all the whiney twats we will be leaving the EU and there wont be another referendum.
Unfortunately the whiney twats didn't understand "
It's ambiguous
Those statements can mean a lot of things. She backed remain? So it could be to keep the Brexiters happy while she devise her own plans.
What is Brexit by the way? No definition for it other than exiting the EU. So even "Brexit means Brexit" means nothing.
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"Theresa May mastered the art of speaking without saying anything today. Such epic quotes as:
- "Brexit may bring difficult times"
- "What I am is optimistic"
- we want "an independent Britain, forging our own way in the world"
Learn to speak English you fecking moron. Those statements could mean anything. It's as bad as the looney left talking about 'greed' as the source of all evil.
Struggling to see an issue with any of those 3 quotes. They all make sense. Maybe its your English that is lacking "
OK, so based on these quotes, do you expect GDP growth (%) to be better or worse next year, compared to this year?
How many people are likely to be unemployed next year?
Will be get closer to running a surplus next year?
These statements tell us absolutely nothing about anything. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Theresa May mastered the art of speaking without saying anything today. Such epic quotes as:
- "Brexit may bring difficult times"
- "What I am is optimistic"
- we want "an independent Britain, forging our own way in the world"
Learn to speak English you fecking moron. Those statements could mean anything. It's as bad as the looney left talking about 'greed' as the source of all evil.
Struggling to see an issue with any of those 3 quotes. They all make sense. Maybe its your English that is lacking
OK, so based on these quotes, do you expect GDP growth (%) to be better or worse next year, compared to this year?
How many people are likely to be unemployed next year?
Will be get closer to running a surplus next year?
These statements tell us absolutely nothing about anything. "
What's her brier score?  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Theresa May mastered the art of speaking without saying anything today. Such epic quotes as:
- "Brexit may bring difficult times"
- "What I am is optimistic"
- we want "an independent Britain, forging our own way in the world"
Learn to speak English you fecking moron. Those statements could mean anything. It's as bad as the looney left talking about 'greed' as the source of all evil.
Struggling to see an issue with any of those 3 quotes. They all make sense. Maybe its your English that is lacking
OK, so based on these quotes, do you expect GDP growth (%) to be better or worse next year, compared to this year?
How many people are likely to be unemployed next year?
Will be get closer to running a surplus next year?
These statements tell us absolutely nothing about anything.
What's her brier score? "
Worse than chance if her home office record is anything to go by. She's like hillary Clinton in the sense that her greatest achievement is owning a vagina.
I've never met anyone that objectively thinks she has a good track record of achievements. The only plausible defence I've ever heard for her is that her home office gaffs were actually the result of trusting francis maude more than she should have. Which still shows judgement incompetence in my humblest of opinions. |
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"Theresa May mastered the art of speaking without saying anything today. Such epic quotes as:
- "Brexit may bring difficult times"
- "What I am is optimistic"
- we want "an independent Britain, forging our own way in the world"
Learn to speak English you fecking moron. Those statements could mean anything. It's as bad as the looney left talking about 'greed' as the source of all evil.
Struggling to see an issue with any of those 3 quotes. They all make sense. Maybe its your English that is lacking
OK, so based on these quotes, do you expect GDP growth (%) to be better or worse next year, compared to this year?
How many people are likely to be unemployed next year?
Will be get closer to running a surplus next year?
These statements tell us absolutely nothing about anything.
What's her brier score?
Worse than chance if her home office record is anything to go by. She's like hillary Clinton in the sense that her greatest achievement is owning a vagina.
I've never met anyone that objectively thinks she has a good track record of achievements. The only plausible defence I've ever heard for her is that her home office gaffs were actually the result of trusting francis maude more than she should have. Which still shows judgement incompetence in my humblest of opinions. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Theresa May mastered the art of speaking without saying anything today. Such epic quotes as:
- "Brexit may bring difficult times"
- "What I am is optimistic"
- we want "an independent Britain, forging our own way in the world"
Learn to speak English you fecking moron. Those statements could mean anything. It's as bad as the looney left talking about 'greed' as the source of all evil.
Struggling to see an issue with any of those 3 quotes. They all make sense. Maybe its your English that is lacking "
Maybe you're bad at reading thinking critically. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Theresa May mastered the art of speaking without saying anything today. Such epic quotes as:
- "Brexit may bring difficult times"
- "What I am is optimistic"
- we want "an independent Britain, forging our own way in the world"
Learn to speak English you fecking moron. Those statements could mean anything. It's as bad as the looney left talking about 'greed' as the source of all evil.
Struggling to see an issue with any of those 3 quotes. They all make sense. Maybe its your English that is lacking "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What about the classic "Brexit means Brexit"?"
Dear God you have been arguing against it for long enough and calling those who support it racists, liars, un-educated blah blah effing blah! And now you say you don't understand it?
Brexit = "The BRitish EXIT from the EU"
How bloody difficult is THAT?
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So yes:
"Brexit may bring difficult times"
But not necessarily and hasn't to date. In fact quite the opposite.
- "What I am is optimistic"
As indeed we all should be. But sadly the Remoaners rejoice in any bad news for the UK and peddle as many lies and misinformation as they can to further their pessimism.
- we want "an independent Britain, forging our own way in the world"
Abso-bloody-lutely. We were OK before the EU was created 20 years ago and we will be just fine when we leave taking on a new and relevant role in the world unhampered by the meddling politicking of a failed EU.... |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Theresa May mastered the art of speaking without saying anything today. Such epic quotes as:
- "Brexit may bring difficult times"
- "What I am is optimistic"
- we want "an independent Britain, forging our own way in the world"
Learn to speak English you fecking moron. Those statements could mean anything. It's as bad as the looney left talking about 'greed' as the source of all evil.
To be fair, she is in an impossible position which the Japanese PM pointed out quite concisely. She just can't say what position the UK will have in Europe and the world without causing either political or economic repercussions- depending on what she says.
There is no easy option other than hanging on and drip feeding leaks as a way of guaging public opinion before announcing what an acceptable Brexit might look like sometime next year, or maybe later. She needs a Brexit solution that will satisfy both sides of the divided country and one which will not frighten off international investment (as per the Japanese PM remarks)."
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"So yes:
"Brexit may bring difficult times"
But not necessarily and hasn't to date. In fact quite the opposite.
- "What I am is optimistic"
As indeed we all should be. But sadly the Remoaners rejoice in any bad news for the UK and peddle as many lies and misinformation as they can to further their pessimism.
- we want "an independent Britain, forging our own way in the world"
Abso-bloody-lutely. We were OK before the EU was created 20 years ago and we will be just fine when we leave taking on a new and relevant role in the world unhampered by the meddling politicking of a failed EU...."
We were not OK pre EU, far from it. You are either very young or you have a short memory. The U.K. was known as the sick man of Europe as it struggled to retain its colonial greatness in the post colonial years after WW2.
The improvement in the UK as a country and as an economy just happened to coincide with the years that it has been an EU Member. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So yes:
"Brexit may bring difficult times"
But not necessarily and hasn't to date. In fact quite the opposite.
- "What I am is optimistic"
As indeed we all should be. But sadly the Remoaners rejoice in any bad news for the UK and peddle as many lies and misinformation as they can to further their pessimism.
- we want "an independent Britain, forging our own way in the world"
Abso-bloody-lutely. We were OK before the EU was created 20 years ago and we will be just fine when we leave taking on a new and relevant role in the world unhampered by the meddling politicking of a failed EU....
We were not OK pre EU, far from it. You are either very young or you have a short memory. The U.K. was known as the sick man of Europe as it struggled to retain its colonial greatness in the post colonial years after WW2.
The improvement in the UK as a country and as an economy just happened to coincide with the years that it has been an EU Member."
I am neither young nor do I have a short memory. I recall precisely why the UK voted to Remain in the EEC in 1975.
You conveniently for your purposes confuse historical events. Yes the UK was indeed known as the 'sick man of Europe' in the '70s but I would suggest it was more the hard home bred politics of the Thatcher years aided by the trading arrangements that were provided by the EEC we had joined some 6 years before she came to power that changed that.
You see we joined the EEC in '73. This 'evolved' (to use your expression) in the Maastricht Treaty of 1993 into the 'EC'. This 'evolved' in the Lisbon Treaty of 2009 into the 'EU'. So your argument that the EU had anything to do with the rebuilding of UK industry and its economy in the '70s, '80s, '90s and even the '00s is pretty farcical.
Indeed you make my argument for leaving. We joined a trading deal and we (and our 10 partners) benefited hugely for over 30 years. We ended up in a Political and Customs Union that has failed in less than 16 years and we are suffering because of it. So we need to leave and rebuild our trading relationships with the world.
Please stop renaming the EEC and the EC as the 'EU' and taking the success of those two as anything to do with the EU. And can I ask a question? Why, if the EU is a purely trading arrangement, does my UK passport need to have the words 'European Union' across the top and people like me called 'European citizens'? I am British first and always. Not 'European'. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"What about the classic "Brexit means Brexit"?
Dear God you have been arguing against it for long enough and calling those who support it racists, liars, un-educated blah blah effing blah! And now you say you don't understand it?
Brexit = "The BRitish EXIT from the EU"
How bloody difficult is THAT?
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"Brexit means Brexit" is a fig leave to try to cover the nakedness that is the government's lack of planning for this outcome of the referendum.
Brexit means different things to different people and a 3 word sound bite offers no clarity at all.
Brexit could mean leaving the EU, the Single Market, points based immigration system, deporting EU citizens, WTO rules for trade, or it could be leaving the EU, staying in the Single Market with the freedoms that entails, or a million other possible shapes our relationship with Europe will take in the future.
At the moment neither the UK or our international trading partners know what it means.
Now I would say that we have a pretty good idea of what people who voted Brexit WANT it to mean, but you will of course argue that we have no idea of why people put a cross in the box. |
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What I find really amusing about reading the opinions aired here (which mirror national opinions) are how they mostly ignore the facts.
Here are the facts that can not be disputed and are not opinion:
1. It is 3 months on from the referendum and we are still in the EU. However as a result of the vote we no longer have a say in EU policy making, because we have voted to leave. And before you all start shouting that we still have all our EU rights and privileges remember that we no longer invited to attend the after hours meetings where the deals are really done.
2. So many billions have been wiped off the value of UK that our economy has dropped from 5th largest in the world.
3. The BoE has had to print billions and reduce intrest rates to replace what has been trowsered by the carpet baggers so far.
Now here is my opinion:
I hear a lot of 'talking up' of the economy and even more economic 'good news' stories however I do not see any improvements. That a Japanese company has bought a British high tech arms manufacturer does not strike me as good news. On the contrary, all it tells me is that more of the profits that our inventions and innovations produce will now flow out of this country because we are so weak (as a nation) we cant hold on to stuff. And our politicians are so corrupt and feeble that they are selling us out at every turn to line their own greedy pockets.
Finally if we put aside political allegiances and positions on BREXIT, if the result of a vote to leave the EU has
resulted in this amount of economic instability how much worse will it be when article 50 is triggered? And if we are going to be honest with ourselves how bleak do things really look for a post EU UK? |
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That a Japanese company has bought a British high tech arms manufacturer does not strike me as good news. On the contrary, all it tells me is that more of the profits that our inventions and innovations produce will now flow out of this country because we are so weak (as a nation) we cant hold on to stuff. "
I second that point. I was at a conference in London.
The first company founded machine learning. They said the UK is great at inventing but bad at marketing and selling. The presentation was bad.
What was worse, both Google and Microsoft followed with a great presentation which had machine learning features. We loved it.
The poor British company left with no acknowledgement and Google and Microsoft take the earnings.
It's not only an issue of economy. It's a more deeper issue. |
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"What I find really amusing about reading the opinions aired here (which mirror national opinions) are how they mostly ignore the facts.
Here are the facts that can not be disputed and are not opinion:
1. It is 3 months on from the referendum and we are still in the EU. However as a result of the vote we no longer have a say in EU policy making, because we have voted to leave. And before you all start shouting that we still have all our EU rights and privileges remember that we no longer invited to attend the after hours meetings where the deals are really done.
2. So many billions have been wiped off the value of UK that our economy has dropped from 5th largest in the world.
3. The BoE has had to print billions and reduce intrest rates to replace what has been trowsered by the carpet baggers so far.
Now here is my opinion:
I hear a lot of 'talking up' of the economy and even more economic 'good news' stories however I do not see any improvements. That a Japanese company has bought a British high tech arms manufacturer does not strike me as good news. On the contrary, all it tells me is that more of the profits that our inventions and innovations produce will now flow out of this country because we are so weak (as a nation) we cant hold on to stuff. And our politicians are so corrupt and feeble that they are selling us out at every turn to line their own greedy pockets.
Finally if we put aside political allegiances and positions on BREXIT, if the result of a vote to leave the EU has
resulted in this amount of economic instability how much worse will it be when article 50 is triggered? And if we are going to be honest with ourselves how bleak do things really look for a post EU UK?"
they don't, they look good. Especially compared to where we would have been in a couple of years had we voted to Remain. There is an economic and political disaster coming soon to the EU |
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"What I find really amusing about reading the opinions aired here (which mirror national opinions) are how they mostly ignore the facts.
Here are the facts that can not be disputed and are not opinion:
1. It is 3 months on from the referendum and we are still in the EU. However as a result of the vote we no longer have a say in EU policy making, because we have voted to leave. And before you all start shouting that we still have all our EU rights and privileges remember that we no longer invited to attend the after hours meetings where the deals are really done."
If what you say is true then the EU are breaking their own laws and we should stop paying our £13 Bn a year. Thanks for the help.
" 2. So many billions have been wiped off the value of UK that our economy has dropped from 5th largest in the world."
What £ Billions? Any facts? The FTSE100 lost 300 points, or £125 Billion, to 6,000 the day after the vote. They are now at 6,900. So they have increased by a nett 600 points or £250 Billion. the FTSE250 and 350 have done similarly well.
" 3. The BoE has had to print billions and reduce intrest rates to replace what has been trowsered by the carpet baggers so far."
Well blame the carpet baggers and 'experts' like IHS Markit who created the negative forecasts to make their money and now have to report they were wrong. But what do they care?
" Now here is my opinion:
I hear a lot of 'talking up' of the economy and even more economic 'good news' stories however I do not see any improvements. That a Japanese company has bought a British high tech arms manufacturer does not strike me as good news. On the contrary, all it tells me is that more of the profits that our inventions and innovations produce will now flow out of this country because we are so weak (as a nation) we cant hold on to stuff. And our politicians are so corrupt and feeble that they are selling us out at every turn to line their own greedy pockets.
Finally if we put aside political allegiances and positions on BREXIT, if the result of a vote to leave the EU has
resulted in this amount of economic instability how much worse will it be when article 50 is triggered? And if we are going to be honest with ourselves how bleak do things really look for a post EU UK?"
Well if you can't read the daily news stories of Retail, Service Industries, Manufacturing, Automotive, House building and Export Orders all majorly up since the vote than you must be reading the Guardian... Look cheer yourself up with this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36956418 |
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" Why, if the EU is a purely trading arrangement, does my UK passport need to have the words 'European Union' across the top and people like me called 'European citizens'? I am British first and always. Not 'European'."
Because the UK ( at present) is a member of the EU and all nations have agreed a similar format for passports; to ease movement in the EU ( one of the four pillars; ) it makes complete sense to have a standard format.
It is, of course a UK passport, NOT an EU passport, as the serial liar Farage tried to claim.
And you are not a "European citizen"; there is no such thing, never has been , never will be. You are a citizen of a European country; there is a difference. Of course it suits the likes of Johnson, Farage and all the others to use the phrase "European Citizen" , to stir xenophobia and misinformation amongst the gullible, who are unable to think for themselves. It's crude, but it works; half the country thinks that the EU somehow controls the UK now.
Of course you are British; the French are French, Germans are Germans, etc. that will never change. And despite the lies spread, there is no intention of that changing. Ever.
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"What about the classic "Brexit means Brexit"?
Dear God you have been arguing against it for long enough and calling those who support it racists, liars, un-educated blah blah effing blah! And now you say you don't understand it?
Brexit = "The BRitish EXIT from the EU"
How bloody difficult is THAT?
"Brexit means Brexit" is a fig leave to try to cover the nakedness that is the government's lack of planning for this outcome of the referendum.
Brexit means different things to different people and a 3 word sound bite offers no clarity at all.
Brexit could mean leaving the EU, the Single Market, points based immigration system, deporting EU citizens, WTO rules for trade, or it could be leaving the EU, staying in the Single Market with the freedoms that entails, or a million other possible shapes our relationship with Europe will take in the future.
At the moment neither the UK or our international trading partners know what it means.
Now I would say that we have a pretty good idea of what people who voted Brexit WANT it to mean, but you will of course argue that we have no idea of why people put a cross in the box."
I saw an article that says Brexit means Brexit is the same as breakfast means breakfast. To someone that is sausage and egg, another it's cereal, another is croissant and orange juice. It's open to interpretation and is intended to please the majority of the public without clarification. |
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