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So, should Cornyn now step down as leader after being shown up as a liar?
In case you missed it, I'm referring to his attempt to score points by claiming there were no seats on a train when in fact there clearly were, as shown by the CCTV footage released by Virgin! |
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"So, should Cornyn now step down as leader after being shown up as a liar?
In case you missed it, I'm referring to his attempt to score points by claiming there were no seats on a train when in fact there clearly were, as shown by the CCTV footage released by Virgin!"
Well nothing else he has said or done has made him stand down so I don't think this little lie will, he just did,nt think he would be found out. |
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I think what they are trying to say is there were reserved tickets on every seat on that carriage. To be fair it is quite irritating the way it works and you have to spend a couple of minutes deciding if to risk sitting in a reserved seat or not. Jeremy probably thought he couldn't be arsed to set up his laptop and stuff only to be told by another passenger to pack up his brief case again.
Can you imagine the scene. Getting on a train with your seat reservation clutched in your sweaty palm and who should be sat in your seat Jezza.
I would say it like that bloke off the Harry Enfield show.
I'd say "Oiiiiiiiiii Jezza noooooooo you might be the leader of the socialist party, supported by Bob Crowe and his mates, all sat behind you waiting to renationalise my seat and kick me out by I say noooooooooooo. Richard Branson and I are currently in the ascendancy at the and moment and we say it's time you moved on down to the bit between the carriages and set up your closed shop there coz this my my seat. So Trotski along now.
Only joking. I'm sure he's a very nice man and would politely pack up his stuff when asked |
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"So, should Cornyn now step down as leader after being shown up as a liar?
In case you missed it, I'm referring to his attempt to score points by claiming there were no seats on a train when in fact there clearly were, as shown by the CCTV footage released by Virgin!"
By so blatantly lying then deflecting it onto others isn't he proving he is the perfect politician?  |
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I was more interested in how his apparatchiks immediately attacked Branson as a 'tax exile' like that has any relevance to Corbyn's stupid lying stunt? He was caught banged to rights and here we are with a tirade of abuse against a man whose companies pay £ Millions in tax and NI they pay for thousands of employees let alone the wider economy they benefit.
I was also noting how the powers that be were very quick to have a pop at Virgin for publishing the CCTV to defend themselves. They now face a £1/2 million fine. Corbynistas by any chance?
And what Corbyn and the new Militant Tendency that is now Labour forgot to mention is the RMT are on a vicious campaign using commuters to try and unseat a properly elected Government. They have called pointless strikes in Scotland, Eurostar, and Virgin East Coast as well as the Southern war that is played out daily. A war about who opens train doors. You really could not make it up!!
No doubt the RMT will now call out Virgin East Coast in 'solidarity for Brother Corbyn'. We are heading back to the '60s and politically motivated strikes and this has all started under Corbyn .. the North London Loonie Leftie Liar. |
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"I think what they are trying to say is there were reserved tickets on every seat on that carriage. To be fair it is quite irritating the way it works and you have to spend a couple of minutes deciding if to risk sitting in a reserved seat or not. Jeremy probably thought he couldn't be arsed to set up his laptop and stuff only to be told by another passenger to pack up his brief case again.
Can you imagine the scene. Getting on a train with your seat reservation clutched in your sweaty palm and who should be sat in your seat Jezza.
I would say it like that bloke off the Harry Enfield show.
I'd say "Oiiiiiiiiii Jezza noooooooo you might be the leader of the socialist party, supported by Bob Crowe and his mates, all sat behind you waiting to renationalise my seat and kick me out by I say noooooooooooo. Richard Branson and I are currently in the ascendancy at the and moment and we say it's time you moved on down to the bit between the carriages and set up your closed shop there coz this my my seat. So Trotski along now.
Only joking. I'm sure he's a very nice man and would politely pack up his stuff when asked"
He is polite bully, who is supported by his bully boys and girls
I'd love to see him try and lead the country, the 1st winter all of the lights would go off, the trains would be in chaos and boats would be landing on the beaches at Hastings just like in 1066 |
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Don't forget David Cameron lied when he stated he had never had off shore shares, then a couple of days later had to admit he had sold them , he was a serving prime Minister and got away with it.
They are all the same |
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By *anny77Man
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"Don't forget David Cameron lied when he stated he had never had off shore shares, then a couple of days later had to admit he had sold them , he was a serving prime Minister and got away with it.
They are all the same "
Both lies are hardly comparable. Both potentially lies (I've stood on a train because seats were empty but reserved before) but I'd choose the guy that took a photo op to show he's a man of the people over a tax evader!
Just need to say I am not a Labour supporter before I am branded a Corbynite (no idea if that's the name they're given - sound more like doctor who villains) |
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"So, should Cornyn now step down as leader after being shown up as a liar?
In case you missed it, I'm referring to his attempt to score points by claiming there were no seats on a train when in fact there clearly were, as shown by the CCTV footage released by Virgin!"
Maybe just a complete dimwit . Most people would know that the 11 am train would never be packed . In addition he is hopelessly disorganised . Anyone with common sense would reserve seats before boarding a train.
Well done to Virgin for releasing the video coverage .
At least they are looking after the interests of travellers . |
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"So, should Cornyn now step down as leader after being shown up as a liar?
In case you missed it, I'm referring to his attempt to score points by claiming there were no seats on a train when in fact there clearly were, as shown by the CCTV footage released by Virgin!"
He should stand down because his policies are rehashes of past failures and his MPs don't support him. This is just the tip of the iceberg really.
He can by all means start a new party, but he should stop screwing up a labour party that was finally made electable by getting rid of dinosaurs like him from key positions. |
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Virgin couldn't give a stuff about travellers.... as long as Branson still makes enough profit to remain as a non dom to avoid paying tax and lecture us on what we should do in the country where he doesn't want to reside |
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"they all tell lies ..... they're politicians ffs
Ahem, this is the "new politics" remember?
new? where the fuck have you been for the last __________ (insert your age here)?"
New politics started approximately a year ago with JC asked questions at PMQs in a calm and orderly manner... Cameron had never been so relieved |
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"I think what they are trying to say is there were reserved tickets on every seat on that carriage. To be fair it is quite irritating the way it works and you have to spend a couple of minutes deciding if to risk sitting in a reserved seat or not. Jeremy probably thought he couldn't be arsed to set up his laptop and stuff only to be told by another passenger to pack up his brief case again.
Can you imagine the scene. Getting on a train with your seat reservation clutched in your sweaty palm and who should be sat in your seat Jezza.
I would say it like that bloke off the Harry Enfield show.
I'd say "Oiiiiiiiiii Jezza noooooooo you might be the leader of the socialist party, supported by Bob Crowe and his mates, all sat behind you waiting to renationalise my seat and kick me out by I say noooooooooooo. Richard Branson and I are currently in the ascendancy at the and moment and we say it's time you moved on down to the bit between the carriages and set up your closed shop there coz this my my seat. So Trotski along now.
Only joking. I'm sure he's a very nice man and would politely pack up his stuff when asked"
He walked through two carriages, the first had empty unreserved seats, the second had empty reserved seats.
He now claims that he wanted two seats together so he could chat to his wife, and yet when he was sat in the corridor he was shown doing paperwork.
You can sit in a reserved seat even if you didn't reserve it, so long as you vacate it when the person who has reserved it turns up.
He was offered a free upgrade to another carriage, and turned it down... no doubt as that would have blown a huge hole in his argument.
He could have also asked someone sitting unaccompanied to move to another seat next to someone else, thus freeing up two seats together, but again that would have blown a huge hole in his argument.
His attempts to fob off the press questions annoyed me, it's a free country and the press can pursue any line of questioning they want, he should just have strapped on a pair and admitted he'd made a mistake. |
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His attempts to fob off the press questions annoyed me, it's a free country and the press can pursue any line of questioning they want, he should just have strapped on a pair and admitted he'd made a mistake."
He's always been a twat like that. There's a circa 15 minute video of him walking down a street on YouTube completely refusing to talk to the press along the way.
Then he claims it's a right-wing conspiracy that the press don't like him!! |
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"So, should Cornyn now step down as leader after being shown up as a liar?
In case you missed it, I'm referring to his attempt to score points by claiming there were no seats on a train when in fact there clearly were, as shown by the CCTV footage released by Virgin!
He should stand down because his policies are rehashes of past failures and his MPs don't support him. This is just the tip of the iceberg really.
He can by all means start a new party, but he should stop screwing up a labour party that was finally made electable by getting rid of dinosaurs like him from key positions. "
Just curious and not trying to sound like a critical bastard, but what would you say labour should do to reform and become re-electable?
Cause like, as an MP and person, Corbyn seems lovely, but I'm willing to admit that even I look at some of his policies and wince. |
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"So, should Cornyn now step down as leader after being shown up as a liar?
In case you missed it, I'm referring to his attempt to score points by claiming there were no seats on a train when in fact there clearly were, as shown by the CCTV footage released by Virgin!
He should stand down because his policies are rehashes of past failures and his MPs don't support him. This is just the tip of the iceberg really.
He can by all means start a new party, but he should stop screwing up a labour party that was finally made electable by getting rid of dinosaurs like him from key positions.
Just curious and not trying to sound like a critical bastard, but what would you say labour should do to reform and become re-electable?
Cause like, as an MP and person, Corbyn seems lovely, but I'm willing to admit that even I look at some of his policies and wince. "
Labour is currently just the party for bitter working class people who resent other people's success and want to blame everything on grand conspiracy theories.
It currently has nothing to offer the middle class, except a few champagne socialists who feel guilty about not being on the bread line.
What Tony Blair did in '97 was offer something to those who have aspirations (the majority of the population). He united classes instead of pitting them against each other because a rising tide raises all boats.
Ed Milliband was just aiming to get 100% of the working class vote and nothing else - it didn't work. Corbyn is doing even worse. |
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"Virgin couldn't give a stuff about travellers.... as long as Branson still makes enough profit to remain as a non dom to avoid paying tax and lecture us on what we should do in the country where he doesn't want to reside"
I think you will find that 'Virgin' give a great 'stuff' about the millions of passengers they transport on rail and in the air. So they make a profit doing it so what?
And when did Branson lecture us on what to do? I missed that.
Branson is not a 'non-dom' because he doesn't live here! He lives in a another country. He surrendered control of Virgin some time ago although he is Chairman and has concentrated on non-profit and charitable ventures which he funds to the tune of £10 Mn a year. He is also over 70 years old and many would have retired long ago given his wealth.
So forgive me if I say you are sounding like a jealous, Corbynite Leftie.  |
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If he did re nationalise it fares would go up as a way to raise taxes so that he could issue everyone with a bicycle and a Chinese cap and he could say look how empty the carriages are now and aren't you all healthier, isn't the State a wonderful thing |
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"If he did re nationalise it fares would go up as a way to raise taxes so that he could issue everyone with a bicycle and a Chinese cap and he could say look how empty the carriages are now and aren't you all healthier, isn't the State a wonderful thing"
Does Corbin actually want to run the country? I don't think so.
I think he just wants a platform to spout his socialist agenda x |
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"If he did re nationalise it fares would go up as a way to raise taxes so that he could issue everyone with a bicycle and a Chinese cap and he could say look how empty the carriages are now and aren't you all healthier, isn't the State a wonderful thing
Does Corbin actually want to run the country? I don't think so.
I think he just wants a platform to spout his socialist agenda x"
You could be right, he's just milking the limelight after years in the wilderness because of his idiotic beliefs. He really couldn't care less about the working people of this country |
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"If he did re nationalise it fares would go up as a way to raise taxes so that he could issue everyone with a bicycle and a Chinese cap and he could say look how empty the carriages are now and aren't you all healthier, isn't the State a wonderful thing
Does Corbin actually want to run the country? I don't think so.
I think he just wants a platform to spout his socialist agenda x
You could be right, he's just milking the limelight after years in the wilderness because of his idiotic beliefs. He really couldn't care less about the working people of this country"
Like lots of the political classes in that respect unfortunately x |
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" Does Corbin actually want to run the country? I don't think so.
I think he just wants a platform to spout his socialist agenda x"
A whole platform is a bit greedy especially as he clearly didn't want a seat ... |
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" Does Corbin actually want to run the country? I don't think so.
I think he just wants a platform to spout his socialist agenda x
A whole platform is a bit greedy especially as he clearly didn't want a seat ..."
Haha! Maybe he'd have more luck finding a seat?!?! |
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Just been watching the 'debate' between him and Smith but had to switch over, 2 bigger idiots would be hard to find at a village idiots convention. The Labour party really has had it. Someone needs to be brave enough to stand and create a new party and a decent opposition |
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"Just been watching the 'debate' between him and Smith but had to switch over, 2 bigger idiots would be hard to find at a village idiots convention. The Labour party really has had it. Someone needs to be brave enough to stand and create a new party and a decent opposition"
As soon as Corbyn is re-elected Labour MPs will leave the party and sit as Independents or even LibDems until 2020 when they will lose their seats anyway. I am a lifelong Tory but I feel it is a great waste of political talent that we are losing what was the Labour Party. The country needs a strong Labour or Opposition Party. The rot started with Blair in many ways but at least he got Labour elected.
I can see May getting a massive majority in 2020 especially if she delivers a safe Brexit... |
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"Just been watching the 'debate' between him and Smith but had to switch over, 2 bigger idiots would be hard to find at a village idiots convention. The Labour party really has had it. Someone needs to be brave enough to stand and create a new party and a decent opposition
As soon as Corbyn is re-elected Labour MPs will leave the party and sit as Independents or even LibDems until 2020 when they will lose their seats anyway. I am a lifelong Tory but I feel it is a great waste of political talent that we are losing what was the Labour Party. The country needs a strong Labour or Opposition Party. The rot started with Blair in many ways but at least he got Labour elected.
I can see May getting a massive majority in 2020 especially if she delivers a safe Brexit... "
I'm surprised by your comment that the rot started with Blair... do you mean towards the end of his reign? Could you elaborate? |
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"Just been watching the 'debate' between him and Smith but had to switch over, 2 bigger idiots would be hard to find at a village idiots convention. The Labour party really has had it. Someone needs to be brave enough to stand and create a new party and a decent opposition
As soon as Corbyn is re-elected Labour MPs will leave the party and sit as Independents or even LibDems until 2020 when they will lose their seats anyway. I am a lifelong Tory but I feel it is a great waste of political talent that we are losing what was the Labour Party. The country needs a strong Labour or Opposition Party. The rot started with Blair in many ways but at least he got Labour elected.
I can see May getting a massive majority in 2020 especially if she delivers a safe Brexit... "
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Surely if you just buy a ticked it does not automatically guarantee you 2 seats next to each other anyways? That's what reserving seats is all about.
The man is a total twat who travels by train all of the time and knows this, and he wants to lead the country  |
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"Surely if you just buy a ticked it does not automatically guarantee you 2 seats next to each other anyways? That's what reserving seats is all about.
The man is a total twat who travels by train all of the time and knows this, and he wants to lead the country "
He is a twat but he has no intention of running the country. He was directly asked that question during the Labour leadership debates and his response was very telling. |
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"Just been watching the 'debate' between him and Smith but had to switch over, 2 bigger idiots would be hard to find at a village idiots convention. The Labour party really has had it. Someone needs to be brave enough to stand and create a new party and a decent opposition
As soon as Corbyn is re-elected Labour MPs will leave the party and sit as Independents or even LibDems until 2020 when they will lose their seats anyway. I am a lifelong Tory but I feel it is a great waste of political talent that we are losing what was the Labour Party. The country needs a strong Labour or Opposition Party. The rot started with Blair in many ways but at least he got Labour elected.
I can see May getting a massive majority in 2020 especially if she delivers a safe Brexit...
I'm surprised by your comment that the rot started with Blair... do you mean towards the end of his reign? Could you elaborate? "
Yes. He was a master at manipulation, presentation and smoke and mirrors (all basic tools of power politics) but eventually people started to see through him especially as the body bags came back from Iraq. At the same time Gordon Brown was throwing phones about 'demanding' he be PM which basically meant he lost interest as Chancellor and fostered internal wars that split Labour. The 'Brownites' got even worse when he became PM and the 'New Labour' mob resented it even more. Milliband made the situation worse by shifting to the left which hacked off the 'New Labour' mob even more and they were proved right when Milliband got hammered.
All Corbyn is doing is following the same failed path that Milliband followed post the 2010 / Brown disaster but even further left and he has now lost the support of his MPs just as Brown started to and Milliband made worse.
My point being that you can trace the steady slide to the left and electoral obscurity of Labour from the events leading up to the day Blair left as PM. Although I was personally sad he wasn't taken straight to prison. |
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"Just been watching the 'debate' between him and Smith but had to switch over, 2 bigger idiots would be hard to find at a village idiots convention. The Labour party really has had it. Someone needs to be brave enough to stand and create a new party and a decent opposition
As soon as Corbyn is re-elected Labour MPs will leave the party and sit as Independents or even LibDems until 2020 when they will lose their seats anyway. I am a lifelong Tory but I feel it is a great waste of political talent that we are losing what was the Labour Party. The country needs a strong Labour or Opposition Party. The rot started with Blair in many ways but at least he got Labour elected.
I can see May getting a massive majority in 2020 especially if she delivers a safe Brexit...
I'm surprised by your comment that the rot started with Blair... do you mean towards the end of his reign? Could you elaborate?
Yes. He was a master at manipulation, presentation and smoke and mirrors (all basic tools of power politics) but eventually people started to see through him especially as the body bags came back from Iraq. At the same time Gordon Brown was throwing phones about 'demanding' he be PM which basically meant he lost interest as Chancellor and fostered internal wars that split Labour. The 'Brownites' got even worse when he became PM and the 'New Labour' mob resented it even more. Milliband made the situation worse by shifting to the left which hacked off the 'New Labour' mob even more and they were proved right when Milliband got hammered.
All Corbyn is doing is following the same failed path that Milliband followed post the 2010 / Brown disaster but even further left and he has now lost the support of his MPs just as Brown started to and Milliband made worse.
My point being that you can trace the steady slide to the left and electoral obscurity of Labour from the events leading up to the day Blair left as PM. Although I was personally sad he wasn't taken straight to prison."
Well I agree with most of that. I thought your were implying the rot started in '97, which was officially the best year ever. Blair should have a portrait in every household for granting independence to the monetary policy committee. He wasn't Hitler and our system doesn't allow one person to take the country to war by their will alone. |
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"Just been watching the 'debate' between him and Smith but had to switch over, 2 bigger idiots would be hard to find at a village idiots convention. The Labour party really has had it. Someone needs to be brave enough to stand and create a new party and a decent opposition
As soon as Corbyn is re-elected Labour MPs will leave the party and sit as Independents or even LibDems until 2020 when they will lose their seats anyway. I am a lifelong Tory but I feel it is a great waste of political talent that we are losing what was the Labour Party. The country needs a strong Labour or Opposition Party. The rot started with Blair in many ways but at least he got Labour elected.
I can see May getting a massive majority in 2020 especially if she delivers a safe Brexit...
I'm surprised by your comment that the rot started with Blair... do you mean towards the end of his reign? Could you elaborate?
Yes. He was a master at manipulation, presentation and smoke and mirrors (all basic tools of power politics) but eventually people started to see through him especially as the body bags came back from Iraq. At the same time Gordon Brown was throwing phones about 'demanding' he be PM which basically meant he lost interest as Chancellor and fostered internal wars that split Labour. The 'Brownites' got even worse when he became PM and the 'New Labour' mob resented it even more. Milliband made the situation worse by shifting to the left which hacked off the 'New Labour' mob even more and they were proved right when Milliband got hammered.
All Corbyn is doing is following the same failed path that Milliband followed post the 2010 / Brown disaster but even further left and he has now lost the support of his MPs just as Brown started to and Milliband made worse.
My point being that you can trace the steady slide to the left and electoral obscurity of Labour from the events leading up to the day Blair left as PM. Although I was personally sad he wasn't taken straight to prison.
Well I agree with most of that. I thought your were implying the rot started in '97, which was officially the best year ever. Blair should have a portrait in every household for granting independence to the monetary policy committee. He wasn't Hitler and our system doesn't allow one person to take the country to war by their will alone."
Indeed he was not Hitler but Hitler was also a democratically elected Chancellor like Blair was PM was he not?
I think Chilcot has nailed the Iraq issues pretty well. Had Blair not embellished the WMD issue Parliament would never have authorised war... By any stretch Blair misled Parliament. He says he didn't mean to. I could not possibly comment. |
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I think Chilcot has nailed the Iraq issues pretty well. Had Blair not embellished the WMD issue Parliament would never have authorised war... By any stretch Blair misled Parliament. He says he didn't mean to. I could not possibly comment."
Personally I don't believe he consciously did it. When you've spent your whole life naively dividing the world into goodies and baddies, it's hard to imagine how an armpit country like Iraq could actually get worse - until you've made it worse yourself.
It's also worth pointing out that Blair himself was deceived. The US intelligence agencies have a combined budget that exceeds our entire defence budget. Their advice contained the definitive statement that "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction". Not one of their 20,000+ analysts put forward the hypothesis that Saddam might not have the WMDs, but might want the world to think he did (which was actually the case).
So which wall will you hang your portrait on? |
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Blair was given advice from several sources...including our own intelligence services which clearly stated there was no evidence of WMD. He chose to bury these before he went to parliament as he had already promised Bush his full arselicking support.
But I thought this thread was about Corbyns lies?
The cctv clearly showed quite a number of unreserved, empty seats.
Dint Corbyn come up with the excuse that their might have been "small people" on some if them....if that was the case then where was a Snow White sat? |
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"Blair was given advice from several sources...including our own intelligence services which clearly stated there was no evidence of WMD. He chose to bury these before he went to parliament as he had already promised Bush his full arselicking support.
But I thought this thread was about Corbyns lies?
The cctv clearly showed quite a number of unreserved, empty seats.
Dint Corbyn come up with the excuse that their might have been "small people" on some if them....if that was the case then where was a Snow White sat?"
Maybe the cast of ewoks from starwars  |
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"Blair was given advice from several sources...including our own intelligence services which clearly stated there was no evidence of WMD. He chose to bury these before he went to parliament as he had already promised Bush his full arselicking support.
But I thought this thread was about Corbyns lies?
The cctv clearly showed quite a number of unreserved, empty seats.
Dint Corbyn come up with the excuse that their might have been "small people" on some if them....if that was the case then where was a Snow White sat?
Maybe the cast of ewoks from starwars "
Maybe there were people sat there, they were just vampires which is why they don't show up on CCTV. More plausible than his excuse anyway. |
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There is a really funny piece by 'Richard & Judy' in the Express today (Saturday) about 'Traingate'. Well worth a read even if you don't agree with the Express' politics.
Has anyone else noticed that as soon as the media attach 'gate' to anything the person concerned is just nailed..... |
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"Blair was given advice from several sources...including our own intelligence services which clearly stated there was no evidence of WMD. He chose to bury these before he went to parliament as he had already promised Bush his full arselicking support.
But I thought this thread was about Corbyns lies?
The cctv clearly showed quite a number of unreserved, empty seats.
Dint Corbyn come up with the excuse that their might have been "small people" on some if them....if that was the case then where was a Snow White sat?"
Now I know it wasn't a put up job! You do realise that one of Jeremy Corbyn's principles is that he always stands up for the small people, don't you?
Or, in this case, sits on the floor by the lav...
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"So, should Cornyn now step down as leader after being shown up as a liar?
In case you missed it, I'm referring to his attempt to score points by claiming there were no seats on a train when in fact there clearly were, as shown by the CCTV footage released by Virgin!"
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"Branson to stripped of his knighthood. dosnt pay to be a manipulative tax dodger.
You are having a laugh right? An attempt at humour? "
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"Branson to stripped of his knighthood. dosnt pay to be a manipulative tax dodger.
You are having a laugh right? An attempt at humour?
The green button is your friend "
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"Branson to stripped of his knighthood. dosnt pay to be a manipulative tax dodger.
You are having a laugh right? An attempt at humour?
The green button is your friend "
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"Branson to stripped of his knighthood. dosnt pay to be a manipulative tax dodger.
You are having a laugh right? An attempt at humour?
The green button is your friend
The looney left are multiplying. Before long we'll be overrun and forced into re-education camps. "
There are some on here (OK well one) who would have us believe that no one younger than 30 voted for 'Leave'. I noticed that most of the Corbynistas are all under 30... Is there a connection and therefore this is why the Remoaners are so disconnected from reality? |
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"Branson to stripped of his knighthood. dosnt pay to be a manipulative tax dodger.
You are having a laugh right? An attempt at humour?
The green button is your friend
The looney left are multiplying. Before long we'll be overrun and forced into re-education camps. There are some on here (OK well one) who would have us believe that no one younger than 30 voted for 'Leave'. I noticed that most of the Corbynistas are all under 30... Is there a connection and therefore this is why the Remoaners are so disconnected from reality?"
I voted leave. Just fed up with fools who are happy to be fed rubbish by 0.001% of the population who are controlling them. I want a country where people can work 39 hours earn ok money and have a nice house to live in. Where we don't have our money syphoned upward to 0.001% of the population. |
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"Branson to stripped of his knighthood. dosnt pay to be a manipulative tax dodger.
You are having a laugh right? An attempt at humour?
The green button is your friend
The looney left are multiplying. Before long we'll be overrun and forced into re-education camps. There are some on here (OK well one) who would have us believe that no one younger than 30 voted for 'Leave'. I noticed that most of the Corbynistas are all under 30... Is there a connection and therefore this is why the Remoaners are so disconnected from reality?
I voted leave. Just fed up with fools who are happy to be fed rubbish by 0.001% of the population who are controlling them. I want a country where people can work 39 hours earn ok money and have a nice house to live in. Where we don't have our money syphoned upward to 0.001% of the population. "
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"So, should Cornyn now step down as leader after being shown up as a liar?
In case you missed it, I'm referring to his attempt to score points by claiming there were no seats on a train when in fact there clearly were, as shown by the CCTV footage released by Virgin! If everyone that lied was too stand down there would be no Tory MPs "
I think that you will find that all parties have their equal share of liars. Labour have told just as many lies over the years as the Tories. |
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This whole farce just displayed his, or perhaps his team's, utter ineptitude. There are many, many commuter services which regularly carry twice their capacity where people are forced to stand, or sit on the floor, which he could have used to make his point. An 11am train from London to Newcastle is not it. The only time I've ever not got a seat on that route, even at peak time which this wasn't, is if previous trains have been delayed or cancelled. It's actually a decent service - which is why it was entirely the wrong one to select for political point scoring. And the level of defensiveness and immediate resorting to ad hominem when challenged just compounded that. It's like something from the Thick of It. |
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"This whole farce just displayed his, or perhaps his team's, utter ineptitude. There are many, many commuter services which regularly carry twice their capacity where people are forced to stand, or sit on the floor, which he could have used to make his point. An 11am train from London to Newcastle is not it. The only time I've ever not got a seat on that route, even at peak time which this wasn't, is if previous trains have been delayed or cancelled. It's actually a decent service - which is why it was entirely the wrong one to select for political point scoring. And the level of defensiveness and immediate resorting to ad hominem when challenged just compounded that. It's like something from the Thick of It. "
Exactly, if he took a peak service Reading to London any day of the week then he could have done what he did! |
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"This whole farce just displayed his, or perhaps his team's, utter ineptitude. There are many, many commuter services which regularly carry twice their capacity where people are forced to stand, or sit on the floor, which he could have used to make his point. An 11am train from London to Newcastle is not it. The only time I've ever not got a seat on that route, even at peak time which this wasn't, is if previous trains have been delayed or cancelled. It's actually a decent service - which is why it was entirely the wrong one to select for political point scoring. And the level of defensiveness and immediate resorting to ad hominem when challenged just compounded that. It's like something from the Thick of It.
Exactly, if he took a peak service Reading to London any day of the week then he could have done what he did! "
well actually he couldn't have because he could not have sat down on the floor. GWR actually run the most consistently overcrowded trains in the UK...
Where Corbyn always makes the error is that he attacks 'the private' sector' as if anything in the public sector is magically brilliant when it isn't. The railways have had £ billions of private money spent on new trains and locos to cope with the massive increase in people using trains. A complete reversal of what happened under BR which was basically managed decline. Of course if you want an insight into how a new 'BR' would work look no further than the the RMT's current efforts to bring the national rail network to a halt. ScotRail, Virgin East Coast, Southern, Eurostar. The 'Bruvvers' would shut it all down in the wave of a few hands encouraged by a few kicks from the 'Shop Stewards'... And Corbyn would be on the microphone ...  |
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"This whole farce just displayed his, or perhaps his team's, utter ineptitude. There are many, many commuter services which regularly carry twice their capacity where people are forced to stand, or sit on the floor, which he could have used to make his point. An 11am train from London to Newcastle is not it. The only time I've ever not got a seat on that route, even at peak time which this wasn't, is if previous trains have been delayed or cancelled. It's actually a decent service - which is why it was entirely the wrong one to select for political point scoring. And the level of defensiveness and immediate resorting to ad hominem when challenged just compounded that. It's like something from the Thick of It.
Exactly, if he took a peak service Reading to London any day of the week then he could have done what he did!
well actually he couldn't have because he could not have sat down on the floor. GWR actually run the most consistently overcrowded trains in the UK...
Where Corbyn always makes the error is that he attacks 'the private' sector' as if anything in the public sector is magically brilliant when it isn't. The railways have had £ billions of private money spent on new trains and locos to cope with the massive increase in people using trains. A complete reversal of what happened under BR which was basically managed decline. Of course if you want an insight into how a new 'BR' would work look no further than the the RMT's current efforts to bring the national rail network to a halt. ScotRail, Virgin East Coast, Southern, Eurostar. The 'Bruvvers' would shut it all down in the wave of a few hands encouraged by a few kicks from the 'Shop Stewards'... And Corbyn would be on the microphone ... "
You can't really expect him to understand the private sector when he's never been in it though... |
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"This whole farce just displayed his, or perhaps his team's, utter ineptitude. There are many, many commuter services which regularly carry twice their capacity where people are forced to stand, or sit on the floor, which he could have used to make his point. An 11am train from London to Newcastle is not it. The only time I've ever not got a seat on that route, even at peak time which this wasn't, is if previous trains have been delayed or cancelled. It's actually a decent service - which is why it was entirely the wrong one to select for political point scoring. And the level of defensiveness and immediate resorting to ad hominem when challenged just compounded that. It's like something from the Thick of It.
Exactly, if he took a peak service Reading to London any day of the week then he could have done what he did! "
He should of got my train this morning. He could have jumped and stayed suspended mid air for 30 minutes |
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"So, should Cornyn now step down as leader after being shown up as a liar?
In case you missed it, I'm referring to his attempt to score points by claiming there were no seats on a train when in fact there clearly were, as shown by the CCTV footage released by Virgin! If everyone that lied was too stand down there would be no Tory MPs
I think that you will find that all parties have their equal share of liars. Labour have told just as many lies over the years as the Tories."
typical Tory answer .. No defence just claim everyone is as bad as the fiddlers claiming for having there moats cleaned out.. |
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"So, should Cornyn now step down as leader after being shown up as a liar?
In case you missed it, I'm referring to his attempt to score points by claiming there were no seats on a train when in fact there clearly were, as shown by the CCTV footage released by Virgin! If everyone that lied was too stand down there would be no Tory MPs
I think that you will find that all parties have their equal share of liars. Labour have told just as many lies over the years as the Tories.typical Tory answer .. No defence just claim everyone is as bad as the fiddlers claiming for having there moats cleaned out.."
Your entire argument was Corbyn is fine because Tories lie - but someone can't point out labour MPs have lied too? Nice unashamed hypocrisy there fella |
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"So, should Cornyn now step down as leader after being shown up as a liar?
In case you missed it, I'm referring to his attempt to score points by claiming there were no seats on a train when in fact there clearly were, as shown by the CCTV footage released by Virgin! If everyone that lied was too stand down there would be no Tory MPs
I think that you will find that all parties have their equal share of liars. Labour have told just as many lies over the years as the Tories.typical Tory answer .. No defence just claim everyone is as bad as the fiddlers claiming for having there moats cleaned out.."
As opposed to the typical lefty response which blames all societies problems on abstract concepts that can be defined differently depending on the day of the week (e.g. greed, institutional racism, inequity etc) |
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"So, should Cornyn now step down as leader after being shown up as a liar?
In case you missed it, I'm referring to his attempt to score points by claiming there were no seats on a train when in fact there clearly were, as shown by the CCTV footage released by Virgin! If everyone that lied was too stand down there would be no Tory MPs
I think that you will find that all parties have their equal share of liars. Labour have told just as many lies over the years as the Tories.typical Tory answer .. No defence just claim everyone is as bad as the fiddlers claiming for having there moats cleaned out.."
Nice exaggeration but the facts are that more Labour MPs got caught fiddling expenses than did Tories. And some Labour folks went to prison ...
And 7 Labour MPs kicked out for fiddling got re-selected for the 2015 Election. So thats all OK then ... |
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Methinks comrade Jezza has just nailed the next general election.
His latest idea is a sure fire vote winner, well in Notting Hill anyway.
He wants to stop men going for an after work pint because he thinks it discriminates against women.
With that in the manifesto it has just has to be a Labour landslide. Doesn't it? |
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"Methinks comrade Jezza has just nailed the next general election.
His latest idea is a sure fire vote winner, well in Notting Hill anyway.
He wants to stop men going for an after work pint because he thinks it discriminates against women.
With that in the manifesto it has just has to be a Labour landslide. Doesn't it? "
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"Seriously though, maybe it's time he sought medical advice 
Or maybe nip down to the pub for a pint. "
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"Methinks comrade Jezza has just nailed the next general election.
His latest idea is a sure fire vote winner, well in Notting Hill anyway.
He wants to stop men going for an after work pint because he thinks it discriminates against women.
With that in the manifesto it has just has to be a Labour landslide. Doesn't it? "
I'm going to miss Corbyn after he's slaughtered in an election.
You couldn't make this stuff up!
So it's sexist to have after work drinks because women want to rush home to look after the children!!! Oh goodness, sorry guys I'm voting for him now because that's so funny I need to hear more like that. |
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I think I'd better cancel the after work drinks I'm about to go to with a number of mothers (and fathers, for that matter) of small children. They're clearly terrible parents.
I hate to sound all "it's the MSM!", but is this actually what he's said? I think there is an old-boys network, deals on the golf course atmosphere in some professions that can potentially hold women back, but the answer isn't to ban it, for gods sake, it's to encourage women to network more effectively and build their own contacts themselves. |
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"I think I'd better cancel the after work drinks I'm about to go to with a number of mothers (and fathers, for that matter) of small children. They're clearly terrible parents.
I hate to sound all "it's the MSM!", but is this actually what he's said? I think there is an old-boys network, deals on the golf course atmosphere in some professions that can potentially hold women back, but the answer isn't to ban it, for gods sake, it's to encourage women to network more effectively and build their own contacts themselves. "
But when someone has never held a real job, let alone one in the private sector, how do you expect them to really relate to what's going on?
He's doing what he thinks is right, based on the books he's read about the workplace. The guy doesn't even know who Ant and Dec are ffs! |
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"Methinks comrade Jezza has just nailed the next general election.
His latest idea is a sure fire vote winner, well in Notting Hill anyway.
He wants to stop men going for an after work pint because he thinks it discriminates against women.
With that in the manifesto it has just has to be a Labour landslide. Doesn't it? "
Putting aside the fact that being leader of the opposition is a serious position, paid for handsomely by the taxpayer, it's highly entertaining |
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"Methinks comrade Jezza has just nailed the next general election.
His latest idea is a sure fire vote winner, well in Notting Hill anyway.
He wants to stop men going for an after work pint because he thinks it discriminates against women.
With that in the manifesto it has just has to be a Labour landslide. Doesn't it?
Putting aside the fact that being leader of the opposition is a serious position, paid for handsomely by the taxpayer, it's highly entertaining "
Please give the man credit where its due. He is creating political stability in times of uncertainty by ensuring that we will have 10 years at least of a Conservative Government. |
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Corbyn didn't lie.
He walked through carriages with empty but reserved seats. He then got two seats together with his wife 30 odd minutes into the journey but only after the virgin staff upgraded a family and moved them into first class.
In any case it is a fair point to point out that the private sector does not provide a good service and trains are usually overcrowded.
There are some things the private sector do far better than the state and some things the private sector should be excluded from or play a very secondary role. Transport infrastructure, health, education, law and order and water supplies. |
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"Corbyn didn't lie.
He walked through carriages with empty but reserved seats. He then got two seats together with his wife 30 odd minutes into the journey but only after the virgin staff upgraded a family and moved them into first class.
In any case it is a fair point to point out that the private sector does not provide a good service and trains are usually overcrowded.
There are some things the private sector do far better than the state and some things the private sector should be excluded from or play a very secondary role. Transport infrastructure, health, education, law and order and water supplies. "
Corbyn did lie
Corbyn is one big lie.
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"Corbyn didn't lie.
He walked through carriages with empty but reserved seats. He then got two seats together with his wife 30 odd minutes into the journey but only after the virgin staff upgraded a family and moved them into first class.
In any case it is a fair point to point out that the private sector does not provide a good service and trains are usually overcrowded.
There are some things the private sector do far better than the state and some things the private sector should be excluded from or play a very secondary role. Transport infrastructure, health, education, law and order and water supplies. "
He walked through one carriage of empty reserved seats, and one carriage of empty unreserved seats.
British rail was always very poorly run before privatisation. As were all of the utilities, buses, the GPO (post and telephones), Steel, Coal, etc, etc. The two main reasons for this were no accountability ( not being run as businesses), and being used as dumping grounds for jobs when no jobs existed in order to artificially reduce unemployment. Ask anybody that worked in any of those industries at the time and you'll hear stories of 'there used to be 2/3/4/5 people to do what one person does now'.
The NHS is the same... spend a bit of time in a hospital and you can see the waste seeping out of the walls... and that's OUR money.
I'm not saying privatisation of those industries was, or is, a good thing. I personally think utilities, transport, health, infrastructure, public transport, should all be nationalised. But they should all be run as businesses, not necessarily to make a profit, but to ensure that we get real value for our taxes, and that people are held accountable for their management. |
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"Corbyn didn't lie.
He walked through carriages with empty but reserved seats. He then got two seats together with his wife 30 odd minutes into the journey but only after the virgin staff upgraded a family and moved them into first class.
In any case it is a fair point to point out that the private sector does not provide a good service and trains are usually overcrowded.
There are some things the private sector do far better than the state and some things the private sector should be excluded from or play a very secondary role. Transport infrastructure, health, education, law and order and water supplies. "
OK, he didn't lie, he's just the only person in Britain that doesn't know you can sit in a reserved seat if the person doesn't show up
If you think the private sector can't do a better job in education than the state then you haven't done your research. |
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"Corbyn didn't lie.
He walked through carriages with empty but reserved seats. He then got two seats together with his wife 30 odd minutes into the journey but only after the virgin staff upgraded a family and moved them into first class.
In any case it is a fair point to point out that the private sector does not provide a good service and trains are usually overcrowded.
There are some things the private sector do far better than the state and some things the private sector should be excluded from or play a very secondary role. Transport infrastructure, health, education, law and order and water supplies. "
This may take some time so apologies...
The video evidence shows he deliberately lied because he passed empty and unused reserved seats in two carriages. He then chose to sit in a vestibule to fabricate a pack of lies on camera and then wandered back to the empty seats he passed earlier.
As for the Private Sector operating trains you need to go and read some history. The public sector called 'BR' progressively destroyed a huge railway system and managed the industry into gradual decline. 1 Billion people used the trains in 1950 just after the 4 private companies were nationalised. In 1994, the year before privatisation, that had fallen to about 750 Million. Last year it had risen to 1.5 Billion passengers. Yes there is overcrowding on some routes in rush hour services. Always has been. But could one say the railways have been a victim of their own and the country's success?
Of course the fact that Labour quietly Nationalised Railtrack seems to have passed you by and the fact that the debts run up by Network Rail rebuilding the infrastructure neglected for 50 years now sits on the Government's books while the Government has not funded ONE new train since 1994.
The ORR showed that in 2014 total government funding for the railways amounted to £4 billion, representing 30.9 per cent of the industry’s total income, with funding varied from £2.19 for every passenger journey in England to £7.60 per passenger journey in Scotland and £9.33 in Wales.
As for service the latest Performance Measures have shown on time arrival at over 90% since 2008. Currently the best is 97% and worst 82%. It is also worth noting that the UK since Privatisation created the safest train system in Europe by a big margin.
And if you want an insight into how a Nationalised industry would be at the mercy of left wing unions like the RMT see what they are doing to Southern over who operates doors ... |
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"Jeremy Corbyn has called on companies to end after-work drinks, claiming that "early evening socialisation" benefits men while discriminating against mothers.
The Labour leader made his comments at an early evening event which launched a document detailing how Mr Corbyn's flagship 10 pledges would advance gender equality for women, and tackle gendered violence and harassment.
Following the event, held at Unison's offices, a drinks party was held."
So he complains about after works drinks in the evening, at a meeting held in the evening with a drinks party afterwads |
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He may have walked past seats with tickets on - but if he'd looked at those tickets he'd have seen that most of them were reserved from London to Newcastle. If the person hasn't got on at London, they're not getting on, and you can sit in the seat. It's always the same on that route because it's mostly used for business travel and open returns have been bought.
So yeah, he lied, got caught, and made himself look a dick. If you're going to lie and spin, at least do it competently. |
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"From ITV:
"Jeremy Corbyn has called on companies to end after-work drinks, claiming that "early evening socialisation" benefits men while discriminating against mothers.
The Labour leader made his comments at an early evening event which launched a document detailing how Mr Corbyn's flagship 10 pledges would advance gender equality for women, and tackle gendered violence and harassment.
Following the event, held at Unison's offices, a drinks party was held."
So he complains about after works drinks in the evening, at a meeting held in the evening with a drinks party afterwads "
Priceless. |
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"Corbyn didn't lie.
He walked through carriages with empty but reserved seats. He then got two seats together with his wife 30 odd minutes into the journey but only after the virgin staff upgraded a family and moved them into first class.
In any case it is a fair point to point out that the private sector does not provide a good service and trains are usually overcrowded.
There are some things the private sector do far better than the state and some things the private sector should be excluded from or play a very secondary role. Transport infrastructure, health, education, law and order and water supplies.
This may take some time so apologies...
The video evidence shows he deliberately lied because he passed empty and unused reserved seats in two carriages. He then chose to sit in a vestibule to fabricate a pack of lies on camera and then wandered back to the empty seats he passed earlier.
As for the Private Sector operating trains you need to go and read some history. The public sector called 'BR' progressively destroyed a huge railway system and managed the industry into gradual decline. 1 Billion people used the trains in 1950 just after the 4 private companies were nationalised. In 1994, the year before privatisation, that had fallen to about 750 Million. Last year it had risen to 1.5 Billion passengers. Yes there is overcrowding on some routes in rush hour services. Always has been. But could one say the railways have been a victim of their own and the country's success?
Of course the fact that Labour quietly Nationalised Railtrack seems to have passed you by and the fact that the debts run up by Network Rail rebuilding the infrastructure neglected for 50 years now sits on the Government's books while the Government has not funded ONE new train since 1994.
The ORR showed that in 2014 total government funding for the railways amounted to £4 billion, representing 30.9 per cent of the industry’s total income, with funding varied from £2.19 for every passenger journey in England to £7.60 per passenger journey in Scotland and £9.33 in Wales.
As for service the latest Performance Measures have shown on time arrival at over 90% since 2008. Currently the best is 97% and worst 82%. It is also worth noting that the UK since Privatisation created the safest train system in Europe by a big margin.
And if you want an insight into how a Nationalised industry would be at the mercy of left wing unions like the RMT see what they are doing to Southern over who operates doors ..."
I am not for going back to BR. However aren't the people who mismanage Southern the same clowns who failed to have enough drivers to cover for the London Midland timetable leading to large numbers of cancellations. The model used for privatisation is not fit for purpose and the sooner it gets fixed the better. |
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" I am not for going back to BR. However aren't the people who mismanage Southern the same clowns who failed to have enough drivers to cover for the London Midland timetable leading to large numbers of cancellations. The model used for privatisation is not fit for purpose and the sooner it gets fixed the better."
well yes they are but in fairness Govia won the London Midland in 2007 and the staff shortages were due to training needed on the 77 new trains they were introducing. Had they not resolved that and improved performance they would not have had extensions in 2015 and 2016.
As for 'Southern' (and Gatwick Express) Govia won the Franchise in 2003 and retained it in 2009 because of very good performance. The problems started in 2015 when Thameslink was increased to include Great Northern and eventually Southern. Govia were awarded a Management Contract for the new TSGN in view of their performance at Southern. The reason for it not being a Franchise was because of huge disruptive works at London Bridge, other works in the central London area and a massive fleet of new trains arriving. Right from the start there were driver shortages because new trains, routes and London Bridge had to be learned and new drivers to be trained and certified.
Add in the RMT playing politics by creating excessive 'sick leave' and making an issue out of working practices that have been in place for decades (even in BR days) and you get what is actually a very skilled and experienced management caught between a rock and a hard place. The fault actually lies with the Government for creating this situation in the first place. TSGN run by Govia was originally 'Thameslink 2000'. The date says it all... |
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"Corbyn didn't lie.
He walked through carriages with empty but reserved seats. He then got two seats together with his wife 30 odd minutes into the journey but only after the virgin staff upgraded a family and moved them into first class.
In any case it is a fair point to point out that the private sector does not provide a good service and trains are usually overcrowded.
There are some things the private sector do far better than the state and some things the private sector should be excluded from or play a very secondary role. Transport infrastructure, health, education, law and order and water supplies. "
Corbyn did lie, he said the train was "rammed", with no seats.... the CCTV footage clearly shows him walking past EMPTY seats, in BOTH carriages.
He tried to make political mileage out of a situation that, at that time, didn't exist, he lied, and got owned for it.... in any other job he would have been asked to fall on his sword. |
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