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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
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"Considering Man Utd let him go to Juventus on a free transfer and now buying him back, the impact Brexit have is irrelevant...."
BBC is reporting they got £1.5m when he left but doesn't really change your point |
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
WTF "
I can't really decide if they've screwed up or not.
On the face of it, buying someone back for £89m that you gave away a few years ago for £1.5m sounds crazy.
But he didn't get on with Sir Alex and I'm sure Sir Alex made them more than £87.5m in the intervening period.
Couldn't they have kept him and loaned him out? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't believe that there will ever be day that I will think £74 mil' could be a bargain for anything  "
Going for a song. Only £74m. Come on, going for a song.
A bargain, surely. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Do you know, call me old fashioned but wasn't selling people called slavery?
Can't see the point of 22 grown men kicking a pigs bladder around anyway
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They don't just kick it. They also head it. |
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"I don't believe that there will ever be day that I will think £74 mil' could be a bargain for anything "
£74000 000 for a bloke who is skilled at kicking a ball....... That is an obscenity, in a world where kids die of hunger every minute. |
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"I don't believe that there will ever be day that I will think £74 mil' could be a bargain for anything
£74000 000 for a bloke who is skilled at kicking a ball....... That is an obscenity, in a world where kids die of hunger every minute."
They aren't dying of hunger because of the value of premier league football players are they!? |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I don't believe that there will ever be day that I will think £74 mil' could be a bargain for anything
£74000 000 for a bloke who is skilled at kicking a ball....... That is an obscenity, in a world where kids die of hunger every minute."
£89,000,000 is the final net figure (€105,000,000) based on today's exchange rate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I remember my mum having to get an evening job stacking shelves after we went decimal,because shopkeepers put up prices after they converted them. This could be a good excuse for businesses to do it again.
As for football players prices,it's madness. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't believe that there will ever be day that I will think £74 mil' could be a bargain for anything
£74000 000 for a bloke who is skilled at kicking a ball....... That is an obscenity, in a world where kids die of hunger every minute."
Sounds ridiculous when you put it that way!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't believe that there will ever be day that I will think £74 mil' could be a bargain for anything
£74000 000 for a bloke who is skilled at kicking a ball....... That is an obscenity, in a world where kids die of hunger every minute.
Sounds ridiculous when you put it that way! "
Logical fallacies can make anything sound ridiculous |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I remember my mum having to get an evening job stacking shelves after we went decimal,because shopkeepers put up prices after they converted them. This could be a good excuse for businesses to do it again.
As for football players prices,it's madness. "
It is indeed madness, the truth is that the majority of football clubs aren't profitable. Therefore the values they put on players forego all business logic and are only bounded by the fifa financial fair play rules. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The more it costs the twats who run football the better, they're out of control Man Utd bankrupt I would laugh my nuts off, add Liverpool, Man city, Chelsea for good measure.
Amazing this Brexit, I'm in small firm our business is going up, tourism is going up, big business, banking with their bloated admin in trouble, good. Go and do something useful like pick fruit, sweep the streets, do a proper job.
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
WTF "
I'd like to sympathize,but being a city fan...
one things for sure,its looking to be an interesting season. Good luck to all,whoever you follow. |
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"I don't believe that there will ever be day that I will think £74 mil' could be a bargain for anything
£74000 000 for a bloke who is skilled at kicking a ball....... That is an obscenity, in a world where kids die of hunger every minute."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
WTF "
Makes Brexit all the better if ManUre got screwed by it |
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
WTF "
If Manchester United were that bothered , they should have hedged the funds . They can hardly blame Brexit as they knew it was taking place . |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
WTF If Manchester United were that bothered , they should have hedged the funds . They can hardly blame Brexit as they knew it was taking place . "
Of course they have it was a post about a footballer costing so much money it is beyond comprehension.
Unfortunately a hawk eyed admin saw the word Brexit and decided it was political.
The money is being paid in three equal, annual payments, |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Don;t forget the cost of your foreign holiday or imports However it makes our exports more competitive . "
Considering that 99,99% of the population either get paid a salary, get no salary, are below or above working age or are self employed and not exporting... This is irrelevant to the majority who may, or may not see a benefit after any benefit the Treasury sees gets eaten up by QE. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't believe that there will ever be day that I will think £74 mil' could be a bargain for anything
£74000 000 for a bloke who is skilled at kicking a ball....... That is an obscenity, in a world where kids die of hunger every minute."
This. The world has already gone mad. |
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Looks like Juan Mata will soon be for sale at Man Utd, Mourinho brought him on as a sub in the charity shield and then subbed him off again before the end of the game. Some of the cost of Pogba will be regained with the sale of Mata, and I suspect Mourinho will want to sell a few other players too. |
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"Don;t forget the cost of your foreign holiday or imports However it makes our exports more competitive .
Considering that 99,99% of the population either get paid a salary, get no salary, are below or above working age or are self employed and not exporting... This is irrelevant to the majority who may, or may not see a benefit after any benefit the Treasury sees gets eaten up by QE."
However if their employer has a bonus scheme and exports are more competitive by default the company may be more profitable and consequently staff will be better off .
No one is compelled to go on a foreign holiday if they do not like the exchange rate .
The stock market has performed strongly since Brexit and this will help pensioners . |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Looks like Juan Mata will soon be for sale at Man Utd, Mourinho brought him on as a sub in the charity shield and then subbed him off again before the end of the game. Some of the cost of Pogba will be regained with the sale of Mata, and I suspect Mourinho will want to sell a few other players too. "
Phil Jones
Ashley Young
Ander Herrera
Juan Mata
Wayne Rooney
From the primary squad, all of these are surplus to requirements - not to mention those that JM has already cast aside:
Bastian Schweinsteiger
Andreas Pereira
Tyler Blackett
Adman Januzai
And no doubt others who have slipped my mind.
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Don;t forget the cost of your foreign holiday or imports However it makes our exports more competitive .
Considering that 99,99% of the population either get paid a salary, get no salary, are below or above working age or are self employed and not exporting... This is irrelevant to the majority who may, or may not see a benefit after any benefit the Treasury sees gets eaten up by QE. However if their employer has a bonus scheme and exports are more competitive by default the company may be more profitable and consequently staff will be better off .
No one is compelled to go on a foreign holiday if they do not like the exchange rate .
The stock market has performed strongly since Brexit and this will help pensioners . "
I thought you were above clutching at straws. Seemingly not.
The overwhelmingly vast majority of the U.K. population will see no direct benefit from a currency collapse and more QE. Such things detrimentally affect ordinary people. |
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The 89 million doesn't include the 24 million payment to the agent. So its not a true reflection of the cost of the deal. Just like the 250 k a week isn't included in the cost of the deal. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
WTF "
It doesn't cost Man United a penny, its their fans that stump up, without the silly fans who run around buying strips, going to matches and taking out sky packages they would not be in existence
still; some people need something in their life to exist for |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
WTF
It doesn't cost Man United a penny, its their fans that stump up, without the silly fans who run around buying strips, going to matches and taking out sky packages they would not be in existence
still; some people need something in their life to exist for "
Imagine a life where a person had no interests in life and who just existed to work.
It is easy to pour scorn on many hobbies....
Gardening
Fishing
Sports fan
Train spotting
Etc etc
Point is that some people to chose to find interest in a wide variety of things outside of their day to day life. Who are we to pass judgement on which hobbies/interests are relevant and which are not?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
WTF
It doesn't cost Man United a penny, its their fans that stump up, without the silly fans who run around buying strips, going to matches and taking out sky packages they would not be in existence
still; some people need something in their life to exist for
Imagine a life where a person had no interests in life and who just existed to work.
It is easy to pour scorn on many hobbies....
Gardening
Fishing
Sports fan
Train spotting
Etc etc
Point is that some people to chose to find interest in a wide variety of things outside of their day to day life. Who are we to pass judgement on which hobbies/interests are relevant and which are not?
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True, I guess you could compare a football fan to the same as a person who likes to watch his wife being fucked
takes all types in this strange world
some people like to watch things (spectators) then you get people who actually get off their backside and do things |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't believe that there will ever be day that I will think £74 mil' could be a bargain for anything
£74000 000 for a bloke who is skilled at kicking a ball....... That is an obscenity, in a world where kids die of hunger every minute.
They aren't dying of hunger because of the value of premier league football players are they!? "
of course they are, this is FAB, forget facts, keyboard warriors don't use them |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Considering Man Utd let him go to Juventus on a free transfer and now buying him back, the impact Brexit have is irrelevant....
BBC is reporting they got £1.5m when he left but doesn't really change your point "
Sounds like a perfect business plan don't it  sell cheap and buy dear  |
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"I don't believe that there will ever be day that I will think £74 mil' could be a bargain for anything
£74000 000 for a bloke who is skilled at kicking a ball....... That is an obscenity, in a world where kids die of hunger every minute.
They aren't dying of hunger because of the value of premier league football players are they!? of course they are, this is FAB, forget facts, keyboard warriors don't use them "
Right! Sorry my mistake. I often mix up 'Manchester United' and 'Save the Children'. Save the children is the football club right? It's pretty irresponsible of Manchester United to spend that money on transfers when it should really go on the children. It's not like Pogba is going to do more aid work than an average employee although it does raise awareness for their cause. |
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"Considering Man Utd let him go to Juventus on a free transfer and now buying him back, the impact Brexit have is irrelevant....
BBC is reporting they got £1.5m when he left but doesn't really change your point
Sounds like a perfect business plan don't it sell cheap and buy dear "
Worked for Gordon Brown |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Just crazy prices in football , and earlier in the week people were moaning in TV about some Cheif execs of top footsie 100 companies being on £5 mill a year
Yet they are in charge of thousands of workers and their companies well being
A footballer kicks a ball , this guys income is likely to be £20 mill a year and people say it's ok as its entertainment |
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Firstly they didn't technically get rid of him, he was 17 or 18 and wanted something like 70k a week if I remember correctly, fergie had a policy of not paying juniors more than 25k which is what they offered him but his agent said no ta we can do better elsewhere, so he left, also fergie wasn't keen on his apparent behaviour outside of the club either??.
That being the past, I still don't think he's worth 90m but he is what we've been missing for awhile, a decent central midfielder! |
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"Firstly they didn't technically get rid of him, he was 17 or 18 and wanted something like 70k a week if I remember correctly, fergie had a policy of not paying juniors more than 25k which is what they offered him but his agent said no ta we can do better elsewhere, so he left, also fergie wasn't keen on his apparent behaviour outside of the club either??.
That being the past, I still don't think he's worth 90m but he is what we've been missing for awhile, a decent central midfielder!"
Could have got Bale for that money though!? He ain't no Bale! |
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"Firstly they didn't technically get rid of him, he was 17 or 18 and wanted something like 70k a week if I remember correctly, fergie had a policy of not paying juniors more than 25k which is what they offered him but his agent said no ta we can do better elsewhere, so he left, also fergie wasn't keen on his apparent behaviour outside of the club either??.
That being the past, I still don't think he's worth 90m but he is what we've been missing for awhile, a decent central midfielder!
Could have got Bale for that money though!? He ain't no Bale! "
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Yeah your right, pogba is hardly ever injured |
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Brexit only cost Man Utd if they paid the money over from reserves held in stirling, but I would imagine that they have Accounts in Euro's and in USD's and much of their worldwide income will no doubt be filtered into those accounts.
They are probably the one club completely unaffected by the fall in the pound at the moment. |
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"Brexit only cost Man Utd if they paid the money over from reserves held in stirling, but I would imagine that they have Accounts in Euro's and in USD's and much of their worldwide income will no doubt be filtered into those accounts.
They are probably the one club completely unaffected by the fall in the pound at the moment."
The plc is listed in New York |
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
Great hope he fails as a player and Jose gets sacked at the end of the season
WTF "
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
Great hope he fails as a player and Jose gets sacked at the end of the season
WTF "
Dream on.
This will be the beginning of a new Dynasty. Jose Mourinho has identified exactly the type of players that were needed. The Board acted decisively to get those players and this is just the beginning.
Jose Mourinho will be the best signing Manchester United have made since Alex Ferguson. |
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
Great hope he fails as a player and Jose gets sacked at the end of the season
WTF
Dream on.
This will be the beginning of a new Dynasty. Jose Mourinho has identified exactly the type of players that were needed. The Board acted decisively to get those players and this is just the beginning.
Jose Mourinho will be the best signing Manchester United have made since Alex Ferguson. "
Why do you think he had such a mare last year? |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
Great hope he fails as a player and Jose gets sacked at the end of the season
WTF
Dream on.
This will be the beginning of a new Dynasty. Jose Mourinho has identified exactly the type of players that were needed. The Board acted decisively to get those players and this is just the beginning.
Jose Mourinho will be the best signing Manchester United have made since Alex Ferguson.
Why do you think he had such a mare last year? "
People have faith in people who have faith in people.
JM loves Cheslea but has issues with the Russian owner. He came back for a second go because of his love of Chelsea. Jose ultimately just could not trust the Russian.
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
Great hope he fails as a player and Jose gets sacked at the end of the season
WTF
Dream on.
This will be the beginning of a new Dynasty. Jose Mourinho has identified exactly the type of players that were needed. The Board acted decisively to get those players and this is just the beginning.
Jose Mourinho will be the best signing Manchester United have made since Alex Ferguson.
Why do you think he had such a mare last year?
People have faith in people who have faith in people.
JM loves Cheslea but has issues with the Russian owner. He came back for a second go because of his love of Chelsea. Jose ultimately just could not trust the Russian.
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Nor the Spaniard or the Italian |
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
Great hope he fails as a player and Jose gets sacked at the end of the season
WTF
Dream on.
This will be the beginning of a new Dynasty. Jose Mourinho has identified exactly the type of players that were needed. The Board acted decisively to get those players and this is just the beginning.
Jose Mourinho will be the best signing Manchester United have made since Alex Ferguson.
Why do you think he had such a mare last year?
People have faith in people who have faith in people.
JM loves Cheslea but has issues with the Russian owner. He came back for a second go because of his love of Chelsea. Jose ultimately just could not trust the Russian.
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Maureen only loves himself. He was sacked by Chelski for being shit. |
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"The Paul Pogba deal would have cost Man Utd £74,000,000 in mid June of this year. The cost today is £89,000,000 because the £GBP tanked post Brexit.
The guy has gone from being a bargain to being overpriced - just because of Brexit...
Great hope he fails as a player and Jose gets sacked at the end of the season
WTF
Dream on.
This will be the beginning of a new Dynasty. Jose Mourinho has identified exactly the type of players that were needed. The Board acted decisively to get those players and this is just the beginning.
Jose Mourinho will be the best signing Manchester United have made since Alex Ferguson.
Why do you think he had such a mare last year?
People have faith in people who have faith in people.
JM loves Cheslea but has issues with the Russian owner. He came back for a second go because of his love of Chelsea. Jose ultimately just could not trust the Russian.
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I think the players weren't playing for him, they did much better in the second half of the season after he left. I'm not sure your analysis explains the full story. |
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"I don't believe that there will ever be day that I will think £74 mil' could be a bargain for anything
£74000 000 for a bloke who is skilled at kicking a ball....... That is an obscenity, in a world where kids die of hunger every minute.
They aren't dying of hunger because of the value of premier league football players are they!? of course they are, this is FAB, forget facts, keyboard warriors don't use them
Right! Sorry my mistake. I often mix up 'Manchester United' and 'Save the Children'. Save the children is the football club right? It's pretty irresponsible of Manchester United to spend that money on transfers when it should really go on the children. It's not like Pogba is going to do more aid work than an average employee although it does raise awareness for their cause. "
exactly "which" children do you wish to save  |
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"I take it you wont get as much for the pound to the euros now, after the brexit?"
The pound has gone down since Brexit but it has boosted the UK tourism industry and it also helps UK exporters out with their business. The pound will recover over time as Mark Carney from the Bank of England said last week the UK is now going through a period of adjustment because of the countries decision to leave the EU. Long term the UK will be better off out of the EU. |
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Obviously the Brexit deal was very close either way, and I'm certainly not going to comment for or against it other than to say...
52/48 was the result......if the general public knew that voting out would cost United approx 15% more ie about 12-16 million quid, I'd like to think about 5000000 more would have voted out |
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" Long term the UK will be better off out of the EU. "
Sheer speculation. You don't even know the terms of the relationship with the EU we are going to try for, let alone the one we end up getting.
Then you don't know how the rest of the deals we will strike will pan out.
It entirely depends on how over the next few decades the EU does as to whether we should have still been part of it. That's it, there is no other issue. The courts, the european army, immigration, it's all window dressing.
The EU has it's problems at the moment, but will they be able to solve them? If they do we won't get back in with anything like the same deal we have now.
Large organisations can sometimes be too large, too unweildy. It may be that the EU is that. It may be that whenever an organisation expands there is a period of adjustment but long term it is stronger. Time will tell.
The other point though is whether taking back more control results in better lives for the majority of the country or whether it is just for the few. The trend for the last 37 years is all about the rich getting richer. |
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" Long term the UK will be better off out of the EU.
Sheer speculation. You don't even know the terms of the relationship with the EU we are going to try for, let alone the one we end up getting.
Then you don't know how the rest of the deals we will strike will pan out.
It entirely depends on how over the next few decades the EU does as to whether we should have still been part of it. That's it, there is no other issue. The courts, the european army, immigration, it's all window dressing.
The EU has it's problems at the moment, but will they be able to solve them? If they do we won't get back in with anything like the same deal we have now.
Large organisations can sometimes be too large, too unweildy. It may be that the EU is that. It may be that whenever an organisation expands there is a period of adjustment but long term it is stronger. Time will tell.
The other point though is whether taking back more control results in better lives for the majority of the country or whether it is just for the few. The trend for the last 37 years is all about the rich getting richer. "
Some very fair points there and you make the obvious one that no one knows because no one has been where we are before. So all the so called 'experts' know diddley. I do not 'know' whether we will be better off or not because I do not know what deal will be struck with the EU. I believe we have a stronger hand than people think. We can only be stronger in the wider world because we can only do better deals than the ones we have now. Plus we actually make money out of the rest of the world where we make a £60 Bn a year loss (plus our £13 Bn fee) on the EU. So I believe and I trust in my Country's abilities in the long term. I do know how well regarded we are as a nation in the wider world. Many have now come to respect us greatly for the courage we have shown against the perceived wisdom of the Establishment which was 'to stay put'.
You do make a slight error in asking whether the EU will solve its problems. From an EU perspective it is all part of some big project for European unification under one flag. It is why it has incessantly sucked power and abilities in to the centre from member nations. So it won't even ask itself the question.
And sorry but to me Parliamentary Sovereignty, where our Supreme Court is, who commands our Forces and excessive immigration are not window dressing. They are the core issues. I just want to trade with countries of the EU not be subjugated by this unaccountable political elite.. |
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