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Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ? |
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By *oyce69Man
over a year ago
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"Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ?"
Yes they are. John Prescott was the same, moaned about the Lords but took his peerage pretty damn quick when it was offered. |
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"Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ?"
I think like most people they will do what is best for them they are all out of touch with the general public as a lot of MPs admitted to after the referendum.  |
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"Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ?"
I do like Corbyn, and I've not read up on this story yet, someone able to outline it to me?
As it stands I understand the house of Lords is one of those things parliament just has to deal with, so the more peers in it a party has the less tension between the lords and party policies there is. Ultimately if that's the short of it then there is a 'game' Corbyn has to try and win, ultimately you have to play by the rules until you can change them.
Need to hear the full of this story though. |
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"Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ?
I do like Corbyn, and I've not read up on this story yet, someone able to outline it to me?
As it stands I understand the house of Lords is one of those things parliament just has to deal with, so the more peers in it a party has the less tension between the lords and party policies there is. Ultimately if that's the short of it then there is a 'game' Corbyn has to try and win, ultimately you have to play by the rules until you can change them.
Need to hear the full of this story though."
If Mr Corbyn thought anything about the Labour Party he would step down and stop all this unrest. |
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"Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ?
I do like Corbyn, and I've not read up on this story yet, someone able to outline it to me?
As it stands I understand the house of Lords is one of those things parliament just has to deal with, so the more peers in it a party has the less tension between the lords and party policies there is. Ultimately if that's the short of it then there is a 'game' Corbyn has to try and win, ultimately you have to play by the rules until you can change them.
Need to hear the full of this story though.
If Mr Corbyn thought anything about the Labour Party he would step down and stop all this unrest. "
Who would you like to take his place though?? Cause I personally wouldn't be happy about Mr Smith. |
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"Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ?
I do like Corbyn, and I've not read up on this story yet, someone able to outline it to me?
As it stands I understand the house of Lords is one of those things parliament just has to deal with, so the more peers in it a party has the less tension between the lords and party policies there is. Ultimately if that's the short of it then there is a 'game' Corbyn has to try and win, ultimately you have to play by the rules until you can change them.
Need to hear the full of this story though.
If Mr Corbyn thought anything about the Labour Party he would step down and stop all this unrest.
Who would you like to take his place though?? Cause I personally wouldn't be happy about Mr Smith."
Yes I know what you mean and Mrs Eagle is no good either there does,nt seem to be anyone in the middle ground that's strong enough to lead the party. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ?"
Yes and two faced liers,why do some think Corbyn is different,well he is as he is very dangerous very dangerous. |
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"Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ?
I do like Corbyn, and I've not read up on this story yet, someone able to outline it to me?
As it stands I understand the house of Lords is one of those things parliament just has to deal with, so the more peers in it a party has the less tension between the lords and party policies there is. Ultimately if that's the short of it then there is a 'game' Corbyn has to try and win, ultimately you have to play by the rules until you can change them.
Need to hear the full of this story though."
In simple terms;
- Far left and right parties attract bigots of all kinds including anti-semities,
- Labour has become a far left party and accordingly picked up a problem with anti-semitism
- Corbyn commissioned an investigation into anti-semitism
- much like the investigation into why labour lost the last election, the report was a white wash
- Corbyn wants to give a peerage to the lady who headed the white wash
- the British Jewish community aren't happy about it. Many of whom used to be high profile donors to new labour. |
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"Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ?Yes and two faced liers,why do some think Corbyn is different,well he is as he is very dangerous very dangerous."
Nothing makes intelligent people sound stupid quicker than ideology. Corbyn appeals to idealogues who willfully ignore the gaping flaws in his logic because they want to believe in the overall rhetoric. He has no mass appeal because most people can be bothered to pick up a history book once in a while and have heard it all before. |
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"Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ?"
 have to agree with you on this Corbyn is no better than Cameron, just nominating his cronies for peerages. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ?
have to agree with you on this Corbyn is no better than Cameron, just nominating his cronies for peerages. "
And nominating them for services to racism too |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ?"
I think you'll find that despite increasingly damning evidence to the contrary, Corbyn's supporters will still tell you that he is a man of incontrovertible principle, and that this is yet more 'out to get him' politics. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ?
I think you'll find that despite increasingly damning evidence to the contrary, Corbyn's supporters will still tell you that he is a man of incontrovertible principle, and that this is yet more 'out to get him' politics."
Yup and some people still believe the world is flat |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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The sad thing is, someone like Shami Chakrabarti is exactly the kind of person that you want in the house of Lords. Fantastically experienced having run a large human rights organisation for years. Someone who I think would be very good at holding whichever party is in government to account (I doubt she would just tow the party line). Someone who is still young enough to take part in the work, as its a life peerage, there are many too old, frail or senile to participate. It is also good for diversity as it would be hard to describe the Lord's (or the commons) as representative of British society today.
So many great reasons to have her in the Lord's, but Corbyn has tarred her reputation terribly by putting her in now.
Compare shami chakrabarti to people that Cameron put in, such as his events Secretary and it doesn't really compare. |
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"The sad thing is, someone like Shami Chakrabarti is exactly the kind of person that you want in the house of Lords. Fantastically experienced having run a large human rights organisation for years. Someone who I think would be very good at holding whichever party is in government to account (I doubt she would just tow the party line). Someone who is still young enough to take part in the work, as its a life peerage, there are many too old, frail or senile to participate. It is also good for diversity as it would be hard to describe the Lord's (or the commons) as representative of British society today.
So many great reasons to have her in the Lord's, but Corbyn has tarred her reputation terribly by putting her in now.
Compare shami chakrabarti to people that Cameron put in, such as his events Secretary and it doesn't really compare."
So what did you think of her report into anti-semitism? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Corby is a much a part of the system as the rest of them. Just another career politician living off the public purse."
He's the equivalent of a hipster slating capitalism... on twitter... using his iphone... and starbucks wifi |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes I believe hypocrisy is rife amongst politicians.
The problem theses days is they tend to be 'career' politicians on,y in it for the money and the hefty pension  "
I'd honestly like to ban career politicians. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"The sad thing is, someone like Shami Chakrabarti is exactly the kind of person that you want in the house of Lords. Fantastically experienced having run a large human rights organisation for years. Someone who I think would be very good at holding whichever party is in government to account (I doubt she would just tow the party line). Someone who is still young enough to take part in the work, as its a life peerage, there are many too old, frail or senile to participate. It is also good for diversity as it would be hard to describe the Lord's (or the commons) as representative of British society today.
So many great reasons to have her in the Lord's, but Corbyn has tarred her reputation terribly by putting her in now.
Compare shami chakrabarti to people that Cameron put in, such as his events Secretary and it doesn't really compare.
So what did you think of her report into anti-semitism? "
Well she spent a lot more time than I have looking at the issue, but it found what I thought it would. Is the Labour party institutional anti-Semitic? No. Are there some anti-semites in the party yes, and I expect you will find them in all parties. Labour also has problems within Muslim parts of the party with women being blocked from standing for positions etc.
I think that although there have been problems with anti-semitism recently, I also think that it has been exaggerated to harm Corbyn as well. But that is not to say that his handling of it has been any good. |
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"The sad thing is, someone like Shami Chakrabarti is exactly the kind of person that you want in the house of Lords. Fantastically experienced having run a large human rights organisation for years. Someone who I think would be very good at holding whichever party is in government to account (I doubt she would just tow the party line). Someone who is still young enough to take part in the work, as its a life peerage, there are many too old, frail or senile to participate. It is also good for diversity as it would be hard to describe the Lord's (or the commons) as representative of British society today.
So many great reasons to have her in the Lord's, but Corbyn has tarred her reputation terribly by putting her in now.
Compare shami chakrabarti to people that Cameron put in, such as his events Secretary and it doesn't really compare.
So what did you think of her report into anti-semitism?
Well she spent a lot more time than I have looking at the issue, but it found what I thought it would. Is the Labour party institutional anti-Semitic? No. Are there some anti-semites in the party yes, and I expect you will find them in all parties. Labour also has problems within Muslim parts of the party with women being blocked from standing for positions etc.
I think that although there have been problems with anti-semitism recently, I also think that it has been exaggerated to harm Corbyn as well. But that is not to say that his handling of it has been any good."
I don't think anyone accused labour of being institutionally antisemitic! I think the problem is when your frontbenchers are clearly bigots (i.e Ken Livingstone) and it's goes unchallenged until someone like John Mann actually has the balls to say enough is enough. |
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"The sad thing is, someone like Shami Chakrabarti is exactly the kind of person that you want in the house of Lords. Fantastically experienced having run a large human rights organisation for years. Someone who I think would be very good at holding whichever party is in government to account (I doubt she would just tow the party line). Someone who is still young enough to take part in the work, as its a life peerage, there are many too old, frail or senile to participate. It is also good for diversity as it would be hard to describe the Lord's (or the commons) as representative of British society today.
So many great reasons to have her in the Lord's, but Corbyn has tarred her reputation terribly by putting her in now.
Compare shami chakrabarti to people that Cameron put in, such as his events Secretary and it doesn't really compare.
So what did you think of her report into anti-semitism?
Well she spent a lot more time than I have looking at the issue, but it found what I thought it would. Is the Labour party institutional anti-Semitic? No. Are there some anti-semites in the party yes, and I expect you will find them in all parties. Labour also has problems within Muslim parts of the party with women being blocked from standing for positions etc.
I think that although there have been problems with anti-semitism recently, I also think that it has been exaggerated to harm Corbyn as well. But that is not to say that his handling of it has been any good."
Going by your normal logic on another topic that means all Labour Supporters and voters are racist by association.
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By *LCCCouple
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"The sad thing is, someone like Shami Chakrabarti is exactly the kind of person that you want in the house of Lords. Fantastically experienced having run a large human rights organisation for years. Someone who I think would be very good at holding whichever party is in government to account (I doubt she would just tow the party line). Someone who is still young enough to take part in the work, as its a life peerage, there are many too old, frail or senile to participate. It is also good for diversity as it would be hard to describe the Lord's (or the commons) as representative of British society today.
So many great reasons to have her in the Lord's, but Corbyn has tarred her reputation terribly by putting her in now.
Compare shami chakrabarti to people that Cameron put in, such as his events Secretary and it doesn't really compare.
So what did you think of her report into anti-semitism?
Well she spent a lot more time than I have looking at the issue, but it found what I thought it would. Is the Labour party institutional anti-Semitic? No. Are there some anti-semites in the party yes, and I expect you will find them in all parties. Labour also has problems within Muslim parts of the party with women being blocked from standing for positions etc.
I think that although there have been problems with anti-semitism recently, I also think that it has been exaggerated to harm Corbyn as well. But that is not to say that his handling of it has been any good.
Going by your normal logic on another topic that means all Labour Supporters and voters are racist by association.
Thought I'd just drop a little bomb before sliding quietly away "
I would ask you to refer to the specific posts where that is true, but as it is a false accusation I know that you won’t be able to.
The the point I made previously was that racists probably voted Leave, not that all people who voted Leave were racist. I made it clear on numerous occasions that not everyone who voted leave racist, but you and other Brexiter forumites kept on crying “he’s calling me racist!”
Im surprised that you haven’t said “I’m ignoring you” when you quoted me this time, you do that every other time you quote me. |
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"The sad thing is, someone like Shami Chakrabarti is exactly the kind of person that you want in the house of Lords. Fantastically experienced having run a large human rights organisation for years. Someone who I think would be very good at holding whichever party is in government to account (I doubt she would just tow the party line). Someone who is still young enough to take part in the work, as its a life peerage, there are many too old, frail or senile to participate. It is also good for diversity as it would be hard to describe the Lord's (or the commons) as representative of British society today.
So many great reasons to have her in the Lord's, but Corbyn has tarred her reputation terribly by putting her in now.
Compare shami chakrabarti to people that Cameron put in, such as his events Secretary and it doesn't really compare.
So what did you think of her report into anti-semitism?
Well she spent a lot more time than I have looking at the issue, but it found what I thought it would. Is the Labour party institutional anti-Semitic? No. Are there some anti-semites in the party yes, and I expect you will find them in all parties. Labour also has problems within Muslim parts of the party with women being blocked from standing for positions etc.
I think that although there have been problems with anti-semitism recently, I also think that it has been exaggerated to harm Corbyn as well. But that is not to say that his handling of it has been any good.
Going by your normal logic on another topic that means all Labour Supporters and voters are racist by association.
Thought I'd just drop a little bomb before sliding quietly away
I would ask you to refer to the specific posts where that is true, but as it is a false accusation I know that you won’t be able to.
The the point I made previously was that racists probably voted Leave, not that all people who voted Leave were racist. I made it clear on numerous occasions that not everyone who voted leave racist, but you and other Brexiter forumites kept on crying “he’s calling me racist!”
Im surprised that you haven’t said “I’m ignoring you” when you quoted me this time, you do that every other time you quote me."
You and your foreign mate do it all the time. Frankly I have a life and can't be bothered to prove it but we all know its true.
I am merely highlighting what a ridiculous statement it is. Point made.
Thanks for reminding me I ignore you and your hate filled ways  |
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By *LCCCouple
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"The sad thing is, someone like Shami Chakrabarti is exactly the kind of person that you want in the house of Lords. Fantastically experienced having run a large human rights organisation for years. Someone who I think would be very good at holding whichever party is in government to account (I doubt she would just tow the party line). Someone who is still young enough to take part in the work, as its a life peerage, there are many too old, frail or senile to participate. It is also good for diversity as it would be hard to describe the Lord's (or the commons) as representative of British society today.
So many great reasons to have her in the Lord's, but Corbyn has tarred her reputation terribly by putting her in now.
Compare shami chakrabarti to people that Cameron put in, such as his events Secretary and it doesn't really compare.
So what did you think of her report into anti-semitism?
Well she spent a lot more time than I have looking at the issue, but it found what I thought it would. Is the Labour party institutional anti-Semitic? No. Are there some anti-semites in the party yes, and I expect you will find them in all parties. Labour also has problems within Muslim parts of the party with women being blocked from standing for positions etc.
I think that although there have been problems with anti-semitism recently, I also think that it has been exaggerated to harm Corbyn as well. But that is not to say that his handling of it has been any good.
Going by your normal logic on another topic that means all Labour Supporters and voters are racist by association.
Thought I'd just drop a little bomb before sliding quietly away
I would ask you to refer to the specific posts where that is true, but as it is a false accusation I know that you won’t be able to.
The the point I made previously was that racists probably voted Leave, not that all people who voted Leave were racist. I made it clear on numerous occasions that not everyone who voted leave racist, but you and other Brexiter forumites kept on crying “he’s calling me racist!”
Im surprised that you haven’t said “I’m ignoring you” when you quoted me this time, you do that every other time you quote me.
You and your foreign mate do it all the time. Frankly I have a life and can't be bothered to prove it but we all know its true.
I am merely highlighting what a ridiculous statement it is. Point made.
Thanks for reminding me I ignore you and your hate filled ways "
Ok sure, I'll leave you to go back to wrecking the economy, risking our security and stripping away the rights of millions. |
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"The sad thing is, someone like Shami Chakrabarti is exactly the kind of person that you want in the house of Lords. Fantastically experienced having run a large human rights organisation for years. Someone who I think would be very good at holding whichever party is in government to account (I doubt she would just tow the party line). Someone who is still young enough to take part in the work, as its a life peerage, there are many too old, frail or senile to participate. It is also good for diversity as it would be hard to describe the Lord's (or the commons) as representative of British society today.
So many great reasons to have her in the Lord's, but Corbyn has tarred her reputation terribly by putting her in now.
Compare shami chakrabarti to people that Cameron put in, such as his events Secretary and it doesn't really compare.
So what did you think of her report into anti-semitism?
Well she spent a lot more time than I have looking at the issue, but it found what I thought it would. Is the Labour party institutional anti-Semitic? No. Are there some anti-semites in the party yes, and I expect you will find them in all parties. Labour also has problems within Muslim parts of the party with women being blocked from standing for positions etc.
I think that although there have been problems with anti-semitism recently, I also think that it has been exaggerated to harm Corbyn as well. But that is not to say that his handling of it has been any good.
Going by your normal logic on another topic that means all Labour Supporters and voters are racist by association.
Thought I'd just drop a little bomb before sliding quietly away
I would ask you to refer to the specific posts where that is true, but as it is a false accusation I know that you won’t be able to.
The the point I made previously was that racists probably voted Leave, not that all people who voted Leave were racist. I made it clear on numerous occasions that not everyone who voted leave racist, but you and other Brexiter forumites kept on crying “he’s calling me racist!”
Im surprised that you haven’t said “I’m ignoring you” when you quoted me this time, you do that every other time you quote me.
You and your foreign mate do it all the time. Frankly I have a life and can't be bothered to prove it but we all know its true.
I am merely highlighting what a ridiculous statement it is. Point made.
Thanks for reminding me I ignore you and your hate filled ways
Ok sure, I'll leave you to go back to wrecking the economy, risking our security and stripping away the rights of millions."
I do not recall doing any of those things but thank you all none the less  |
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Some ignorance on here. Can't some of you be bothered with looking into some facts when it comes to Corbyn? You all know the right wing press and the plp have been on a major shit spraying offensive against him since day one. Simply repeating them shames you, as it either puts you in the seriously lazy, the seriously gullible or the seriously malicious camps. You can decide which you are in.
Sami Chakrabarti did not complete a whitewash. She did a thorough, nuanced and generally praised investigation by independent observers. It was fair being critical of the Labour Party in some areas and clearing it in others.
Corbyn appointed her for this work but for many of her other works. She is indeed the calibre of person we could do with in the Lords and she is independent. What is more, she believes the Lords should be reformed, if not abolished and Corbyn specifically cited this as one of the main reasons he put her forward.
Livingstone was looked at and cleared of being an anti-semite but found guilty of being a knob head.
Corbyn is not in Politics to get what he can out of it. He has always claimed genuine expenses, he has stuck to his beliefs regardless of the Party line and he has stuck to his principles to the point it even cost him a marriage.
I'm not sure I agree with him on a lot of things and he may not be a leader, but some of the smears about his integrity and decency are outrageous. |
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"Some ignorance on here. Can't some of you be bothered with looking into some facts when it comes to Corbyn? You all know the right wing press and the plp have been on a major shit spraying offensive against him since day one. Simply repeating them shames you, as it either puts you in the seriously lazy, the seriously gullible or the seriously malicious camps. You can decide which you are in.
Sami Chakrabarti did not complete a whitewash. She did a thorough, nuanced and generally praised investigation by independent observers. It was fair being critical of the Labour Party in some areas and clearing it in others.
Corbyn appointed her for this work but for many of her other works. She is indeed the calibre of person we could do with in the Lords and she is independent. What is more, she believes the Lords should be reformed, if not abolished and Corbyn specifically cited this as one of the main reasons he put her forward.
Livingstone was looked at and cleared of being an anti-semite but found guilty of being a knob head.
Corbyn is not in Politics to get what he can out of it. He has always claimed genuine expenses, he has stuck to his beliefs regardless of the Party line and he has stuck to his principles to the point it even cost him a marriage.
I'm not sure I agree with him on a lot of things and he may not be a leader, but some of the smears about his integrity and decency are outrageous."
A lot of Jewish people had a problem with her report, Jews are not known for their far right biases. Their protests are not imagined by the press. The most damning things reported about Corbyn are the things that came straight out his mouth and you can watch them on YouTube, such as him not denying being a Marxist.
Livingstone made anti-Semitic comments, again you can watch him say them and defend them on YouTube. It's nothing to do with being misquoted or how it was reported, just listen to his interview. He's also made homophobic comments and made comments that are offensive to people with mental health issues.
Corbyn's principles are nowhere to be seen when it comes to campaigning for the EU or having the balls to tell trade unions that he won't support trident. He's just another career politician.
These are not right-wing press conspiracies, go and watch the interviews in their full context for yourself and listen to the words come out of their mouths. |
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"Some ignorance on here. Can't some of you be bothered with looking into some facts when it comes to Corbyn? You all know the right wing press and the plp have been on a major shit spraying offensive against him since day one. Simply repeating them shames you, as it either puts you in the seriously lazy, the seriously gullible or the seriously malicious camps. You can decide which you are in.
Sami Chakrabarti did not complete a whitewash. She did a thorough, nuanced and generally praised investigation by independent observers. It was fair being critical of the Labour Party in some areas and clearing it in others.
Corbyn appointed her for this work but for many of her other works. She is indeed the calibre of person we could do with in the Lords and she is independent. What is more, she believes the Lords should be reformed, if not abolished and Corbyn specifically cited this as one of the main reasons he put her forward.
Livingstone was looked at and cleared of being an anti-semite but found guilty of being a knob head.
Corbyn is not in Politics to get what he can out of it. He has always claimed genuine expenses, he has stuck to his beliefs regardless of the Party line and he has stuck to his principles to the point it even cost him a marriage.
I'm not sure I agree with him on a lot of things and he may not be a leader, but some of the smears about his integrity and decency are outrageous."
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he has stuck to his principles to the point it even cost him a marriage.
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The latter shows what an idiot he is. He'd get a divorce and have his kids grow up without their dad in the house over a row about state schools. Frankly that's pathetic.
What's the net result - oh yeah his kids go to a grammar school anyway, just like he did, but now their parents are divorced. Great job Jeremy.
It's really sad when people think it's to someone's credit that they couldn't hold their marriage together. It reminds of a joke by Ricky Gervais when he noted that nobody clapped when he said he'd never been a heroine addict but they all would have clapped if he was a recovering heroin addict! |
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"Many of us regard the honours list as a joke these days and never more so after dodgy Dave's latest efforts.
Then Mr Corbyn who seeks to do away with the Lords and who in the past has said he wold never send anyone there does exactly that by sending someone who some say completed a whitewash in a recent labour party investigation.
So are they all hypocrites regardless of party politics ?"
Yes all politicians are hypocrites. Especially socialist ones.
I've watched a couple of interviews with Corbyn and he comes across as quite a likeable fella when speaking generally. Then he starts talking politics and makes himself look a complete twat, in my view. |
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