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"Are we seeing the beginning of the end for Donald Trump? His comments about Mexicans, Muslims, women, disabled people etc seemed not to hurt him at all, calling Hilary "the Devil" and calling for Russia to hack government emails to find dirt on her didn't cause him to miss a beat. But has attacking the mother of a dead soldier been one step too far? A Republican congressman has stated that he will be voting for Hilary, and its fairly well known that most of the party establishment hate him, so can he win without their support? " Absolutely You would be surprised the amount of Americans backing Trump and in a way I hope he gets through, will be interesting to see the change | |||
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"Trump will win easily" your prediction has been noted | |||
"Trump will win easily" The polls have Clinton ahead by about 4.5 points. Respect for veterans in big in the US. I can't see someone voting for a commander in chief who is going to order men and women into conflict and then take the piss out of the mother's of the deceased. Well I hope not anyway. | |||
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"Are we seeing the beginning of the end for Donald Trump? His comments about Mexicans, Muslims, women, disabled people etc seemed not to hurt him at all, calling Hilary "the Devil" and calling for Russia to hack government emails to find dirt on her didn't cause him to miss a beat. But has attacking the mother of a dead soldier been one step too far? A Republican congressman has stated that he will be voting for Hilary, and its fairly well known that most of the party establishment hate him, so can he win without their support? " Well, on the basis that Jeremy Corbyn looks likely to retain leadership of the Labour Party without the support of his own MP's - quite possibly. | |||
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"The whole US way of doing politics does my head in. I just don't understand how they can spend so much money on electing a President. And it takes 2 years ffs!! And end up with someone like Trump? IMHO Trump is a bloody liability to us all as he will, if elected, be the most powerful man in the world. As someone observed if you can upset him with a Tweet God help us as his finger will be on the nuclear button. And this is the man that reckons Belgium is a nice city ... Clinton has many haters and I guess its all internal politicking but looking from the outside in she seems about as capable as any other President has been. She has served her country in major ways as a Senator (when she was right in there getting funding for New York post 9/11) and Secretary of State when she had the guts top say 'kill Bun Laden' At least knows where every where else is in the world and is pretty much respected by world leaders. " Yeah she is certainly qualified for the role with lots of domestic and foreign policy experience. Trump has never held office or served in military (other Presidents have either done one or the other or both). If he cant manage to control himself on a debate stage, he won't be able to control himself on the world stage. Running a country is very different from running a twitter account. | |||
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"trump wins prepare for world war 3,we might as well all give up" hilary wins prepare for world war 3. I fixed your quote for you. At least trump said he is going to try and make relations with russia better whilst hilary is going to carry on what the west and nato are already doing and pushing and prodding russia into getting some kind of reaction from then. As much as I dislike trump... I think the threat of world war 3 is much more likely with hilary in power. America is potentially screwed either way but the world will be more screwed with hilary . | |||
"trump wins prepare for world war 3,we might as well all give up hilary wins prepare for world war 3. I fixed your quote for you. At least trump said he is going to try and make relations with russia better whilst hilary is going to carry on what the west and nato are already doing and pushing and prodding russia into getting some kind of reaction from then. As much as I dislike trump... I think the threat of world war 3 is much more likely with hilary in power. America is potentially screwed either way but the world will be more screwed with hilary ." . Amen, this is the woman on video dancing around like a bellend and clapping her hands screaming we came we conquered he died ,over Gaddafis death thus pushing Libya into a spiral downwards never seen under Gaddafi!!. . . Not happy with that, well she also opposed gay marriage as a senator, gays in the armed forces, she's flip flopped on practically everything she's ever said throughout her entire life, has no persona, lies about everything.... And yet she's the good candidate... Only in America  | |||
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"5 reasons why Trump will be President by Michael Moore might be worth a read" This makes a far more sensible read http://archives.bluenationreview.com/top-reasons-vote-hillary/ | |||
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"trump wins prepare for world war 3,we might as well all give up hilary wins prepare for world war 3. I fixed your quote for you. At least trump said he is going to try and make relations with russia better whilst hilary is going to carry on what the west and nato are already doing and pushing and prodding russia into getting some kind of reaction from then. As much as I dislike trump... I think the threat of world war 3 is much more likely with hilary in power. America is potentially screwed either way but the world will be more screwed with hilary ." Too true, if the western backed rebels see off Assad then I can't believe they will let the Russians keep their only Mediterranean base open, which I don't think the Russians will give up without a fight. | |||
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"Unfortunately when America signed itself up to be the worlds policeman it neglected to tell us that it would be more bad lieutenant than Dickson of dock green." Just about says it all ... I did once challenge an American friend (in America) to name one US Foreign Policy initiative that had actually worked out well .... We both gave up and went for a beer ...  | |||
"Unfortunately when America signed itself up to be the worlds policeman it neglected to tell us that it would be more bad lieutenant than Dickson of dock green. Just about says it all ... I did once challenge an American friend (in America) to name one US Foreign Policy initiative that had actually worked out well .... We both gave up and went for a beer ... "The Marshall plan worked pretty well. | |||
"Unfortunately when America signed itself up to be the worlds policeman it neglected to tell us that it would be more bad lieutenant than Dickson of dock green. Just about says it all ... I did once challenge an American friend (in America) to name one US Foreign Policy initiative that had actually worked out well .... We both gave up and went for a beer ... ". Oh dear. Will there's south Korea who've prospered immensely from not living under communist dictatorship, intervention in the Balkans for which I'm pretty sure there quite happy about, errr Indonesia, where they stopped the massacre of Christians ,the Afghans were pretty happy about the help fighting the Russians, two European wars... Israel.. There quite happy, Vietnam... My favourite one of all was Jefferson's very moral stance in the Barbary wars!!. Those who think foreign policy has caused all the world's ills are very blinkered indeed | |||
"Unfortunately when America signed itself up to be the worlds policeman it neglected to tell us that it would be more bad lieutenant than Dickson of dock green. Just about says it all ... I did once challenge an American friend (in America) to name one US Foreign Policy initiative that had actually worked out well .... We both gave up and went for a beer ... .
Oh dear.
Will there's south Korea who've prospered immensely from not living under communist dictatorship, intervention in the Balkans for which I'm pretty sure there quite happy about, errr Indonesia, where they stopped the massacre of Christians ,the Afghans were pretty happy about the help fighting the Russians, two European wars... Israel.. There quite happy, Vietnam... My favourite one of all was Jefferson's very moral stance in the Barbary wars!!.
Those who think foreign policy has caused all the world's ills are very blinkered indeed"Any one who believe America has cured any world ills is misguided ..north Korea was ecstatic..america in the Balkans "http://katehon.com/article/what-are-americans-doing-balkans" America In Iraq .ne I go on .. | |||
"Unfortunately when America signed itself up to be the worlds policeman it neglected to tell us that it would be more bad lieutenant than Dickson of dock green. Just about says it all ... I did once challenge an American friend (in America) to name one US Foreign Policy initiative that had actually worked out well .... We both gave up and went for a beer ... .
Oh dear.
Will there's south Korea who've prospered immensely from not living under communist dictatorship, intervention in the Balkans for which I'm pretty sure there quite happy about, errr Indonesia, where they stopped the massacre of Christians ,the Afghans were pretty happy about the help fighting the Russians, two European wars... Israel.. There quite happy, Vietnam... My favourite one of all was Jefferson's very moral stance in the Barbary wars!!.
Those who think foreign policy has caused all the world's ills are very blinkered indeed
Any one who believe America has cured any world ills is misguided ..north Korea was ecstatic..america in the Balkans "http://katehon.com/article/what-are-americans-doing-balkans" America In Iraq .ne I go on ..". Yes go on but first could you explain about north Korea and ecstatic?. | |||
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"Unfortunately when America signed itself up to be the worlds policeman it neglected to tell us that it would be more bad lieutenant than Dickson of dock green. Just about says it all ... I did once challenge an American friend (in America) to name one US Foreign Policy initiative that had actually worked out well .... We both gave up and went for a beer ... .
Oh dear.
Will there's south Korea who've prospered immensely from not living under communist dictatorship, intervention in the Balkans for which I'm pretty sure there quite happy about, errr Indonesia, where they stopped the massacre of Christians ,the Afghans were pretty happy about the help fighting the Russians, two European wars... Israel.. There quite happy, Vietnam... My favourite one of all was Jefferson's very moral stance in the Barbary wars!!.
Those who think foreign policy has caused all the world's ills are very blinkered indeed
Any one who believe America has cured any world ills is misguided ..north Korea was ecstatic..america in the Balkans "http://katehon.com/article/what-are-americans-doing-balkans" America In .ne I go on ...
Yes go on but first could you explain about north Korea and ecstatic?.
"What don't you think North Korea were ecstatic that America waded on and stopped them trying to unify the country.. | |||
"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else" And you've not got a biased opinion at all ..the Americans wade in and try to force their might on other nations I not saying there worse than say the Russians .just America does what America thinks is in its own interest | |||
"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else And you've not got a biased opinion at all ..the Americans wade in and try to force their might on other nations I not saying there worse than say the Russians .just America does what America thinks is in its own interest " . No I'm biased like everybody else from life's experiences but I see my own bias so i try to counteract it with knowledge. Firstly the Americans didn't "wade" in to the Balkans, if they could be blamed for anything there it would be acting to slowly. Secondly Kosovo today is a secular democratic Muslim country with a bill of rights, it's far far far better off today after US intervention than it ever was!. Was it perfect, no, but by hell it's better than the hell it was. | |||
"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else And you've not got a biased opinion at all ..the Americans wade in and try to force their might on other nations I not saying there worse than say the Russians .just America does what America thinks is in its own interest . No I'm biased like everybody else from life's experiences but I see my own bias so i try to counteract it with knowledge. Firstly the Americans didn't "wade" in to the Balkans, if they could be blamed for anything there it would be acting to slowly. Secondly Kosovo today is a secular democratic Muslim country with a bill of rights, it's far far far better off today after US intervention than it ever was!. Was it perfect, no, but by hell it's better than the hell it was." There are two sides to every conflict and better is never better for all | |||
"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else And you've not got a biased opinion at all ..the Americans wade in and try to force their might on other nations I not saying there worse than say the Russians .just America does what America thinks is in its own interest . No I'm biased like everybody else from life's experiences but I see my own bias so i try to counteract it with knowledge. Firstly the Americans didn't "wade" in to the Balkans, if they could be blamed for anything there it would be acting to slowly. Secondly Kosovo today is a secular democratic Muslim country with a bill of rights, it's far far far better off today after US intervention than it ever was!. Was it perfect, no, but by hell it's better than the hell it was. There are two sides to every conflict and better is never better for all " . No your absolutely correct....I have no doubt that hard line Muslims in Kosovo will feel hard done too.... But fuck em,were right there wrong | |||
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"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else" Please differentiate between a 'Foreign Policy Initiative' and a military intervention. And given, apart from Vietnam, the USA never does anything militarily on its own means it is usually a NATO or UN intervention not just American. | |||
"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else Please differentiate between a 'Foreign Policy Initiative' and a military intervention. And given, apart from Vietnam, the USA never does anything militarily on its own means it is usually a NATO or UN intervention not just American. " . Yeah I know what your saying and strictly speaking yes theres always other countries involved but we're really taking the likes of 100,000 Americans, 3000 British and 400 Germans/Dutch/Spanish. The vast majority like over 90% of the hardware is American, 90% of the troops... When we say NATO saved the Balkans, that's just a nice way of saying some other country's agreed with and went along with US policy!. . . I'm not trying to be argumentive, the US has done some incredibly daft shit foreign policy for lots of various reasons, but it really isn't the cause of all the world's problems and it really has helped millions of people over the decades from Korea to Vietnam to Kosovo to Indonesia to Russia and East Germany because belive it or not they spent trillions of dollars fighting communism and no I'm not decrying communism as the worst evil but personally I'd rather be free and shitly paid than not and shitly paid. | |||
"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else Please differentiate between a 'Foreign Policy Initiative' and a military intervention. And given, apart from Vietnam, the USA never does anything militarily on its own means it is usually a NATO or UN intervention not just American. . Yeah I know what your saying and strictly speaking yes theres always other countries involved but we're really taking the likes of 100,000 Americans, 3000 British and 400 Germans/Dutch/Spanish. The vast majority like over 90% of the hardware is American, 90% of the troops... When we say NATO saved the Balkans, that's just a nice way of saying some other country's agreed with and went along with US policy!. . . I'm not trying to be argumentive, the US has done some incredibly daft shit foreign policy for lots of various reasons, but it really isn't the cause of all the world's problems and it really has helped millions of people over the decades from Korea to Vietnam to Kosovo to Indonesia to Russia and East Germany because belive it or not they spent trillions of dollars fighting communism and no I'm not decrying communism as the worst evil but personally I'd rather be free and shitly paid than not and shitly paid." good points, except communism probably is the worst evil | |||
"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else Please differentiate between a 'Foreign Policy Initiative' and a military intervention. And given, apart from Vietnam, the USA never does anything militarily on its own means it is usually a NATO or UN intervention not just American. . Yeah I know what your saying and strictly speaking yes theres always other countries involved but we're really taking the likes of 100,000 Americans, 3000 British and 400 Germans/Dutch/Spanish. The vast majority like over 90% of the hardware is American, 90% of the troops... When we say NATO saved the Balkans, that's just a nice way of saying some other country's agreed with and went along with US policy!. . . I'm not trying to be argumentive, the US has done some incredibly daft shit foreign policy for lots of various reasons, but it really isn't the cause of all the world's problems and it really has helped millions of people over the decades from Korea to Vietnam to Kosovo to Indonesia to Russia and East Germany because belive it or not they spent trillions of dollars fighting communism and no I'm not decrying communism as the worst evil but personally I'd rather be free and shitly paid than not and shitly paid. good points, except communism probably is the worst evil " Not so sure Kim jong-un would agree works for him .. | |||
"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else Please differentiate between a 'Foreign Policy Initiative' and a military intervention. And given, apart from Vietnam, the USA never does anything militarily on its own means it is usually a NATO or UN intervention not just American. . Yeah I know what your saying and strictly speaking yes theres always other countries involved but we're really taking the likes of 100,000 Americans, 3000 British and 400 Germans/Dutch/Spanish. The vast majority like over 90% of the hardware is American, 90% of the troops... When we say NATO saved the Balkans, that's just a nice way of saying some other country's agreed with and went along with US policy!. . . I'm not trying to be argumentive, the US has done some incredibly daft shit foreign policy for lots of various reasons, but it really isn't the cause of all the world's problems and it really has helped millions of people over the decades from Korea to Vietnam to Kosovo to Indonesia to Russia and East Germany because belive it or not they spent trillions of dollars fighting communism and no I'm not decrying communism as the worst evil but personally I'd rather be free and shitly paid than not and shitly paid." I am sure we agree on a lot here but my earlier point was about US Foreign Policy which seems to create more issues than it solves. As a matter of interest there were some 100,000 UK troops involved in Korea.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1285708.stm In Kosovo in June 1999 of the 20,000 troops who went in 8,000 were British. This grew to over 11,000 and the KFOR commander was British: Gen. Sir Mike Jackson. A man who once told his US superior in Brussels when commanded to attack the Russians in a Kosovo airfield "If you think I am going to tell my men to be the cause of WWIII you are bloody well mistaken!". He eventually went and had a chat with the Russian commander and they agreed to secure the airfield together.... | |||
"5 reasons why Trump will be President by Michael Moore might be worth a read" Michael Moore!! The only person who talks more shit than Trump!!! | |||
"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else Please differentiate between a 'Foreign Policy Initiative' and a military intervention. And given, apart from Vietnam, the USA never does anything militarily on its own means it is usually a NATO or UN intervention not just American. . Yeah I know what your saying and strictly speaking yes theres always other countries involved but we're really taking the likes of 100,000 Americans, 3000 British and 400 Germans/Dutch/Spanish. The vast majority like over 90% of the hardware is American, 90% of the troops... When we say NATO saved the Balkans, that's just a nice way of saying some other country's agreed with and went along with US policy!. . . I'm not trying to be argumentive, the US has done some incredibly daft shit foreign policy for lots of various reasons, but it really isn't the cause of all the world's problems and it really has helped millions of people over the decades from Korea to Vietnam to Kosovo to Indonesia to Russia and East Germany because belive it or not they spent trillions of dollars fighting communism and no I'm not decrying communism as the worst evil but personally I'd rather be free and shitly paid than not and shitly paid. good points, except communism probably is the worst evil " Yup, no ideology has caused such great and prolonged misery as communism. And yet in the UK, a small number people call themselves communists with pride. Why the word doesn't attract the shame that the term 'Facist' does it beyond my comprehension of common sense. | |||
"trump wins prepare for world war 3,we might as well all give up hilary wins prepare for world war 3. I fixed your quote for you. At least trump said he is going to try and make relations with russia better whilst hilary is going to carry on what the west and nato are already doing and pushing and prodding russia into getting some kind of reaction from then. As much as I dislike trump... I think the threat of world war 3 is much more likely with hilary in power. America is potentially screwed either way but the world will be more screwed with hilary .. Amen, this is the woman on video dancing around like a bellend and clapping her hands screaming we came we conquered he died ,over Gaddafis death thus pushing Libya into a spiral downwards never seen under Gaddafi!!. . . Not happy with that, well she also opposed gay marriage as a senator, gays in the armed forces, she's flip flopped on practically everything she's ever said throughout her entire life, has no persona, lies about everything.... And yet she's the good candidate... Only in America "Out of interest, what would you call someone who supports gays in the armed forces, prep funded by the NHS but doesn't support gay married, but does support civil partnerships? | |||
"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else Please differentiate between a 'Foreign Policy Initiative' and a military intervention. And given, apart from Vietnam, the USA never does anything militarily on its own means it is usually a NATO or UN intervention not just American. . Yeah I know what your saying and strictly speaking yes theres always other countries involved but we're really taking the likes of 100,000 Americans, 3000 British and 400 Germans/Dutch/Spanish. The vast majority like over 90% of the hardware is American, 90% of the troops... When we say NATO saved the Balkans, that's just a nice way of saying some other country's agreed with and went along with US policy!. . . I'm not trying to be argumentive, the US has done some incredibly daft shit foreign policy for lots of various reasons, but it really isn't the cause of all the world's problems and it really has helped millions of people over the decades from Korea to Vietnam to Kosovo to Indonesia to Russia and East Germany because belive it or not they spent trillions of dollars fighting communism and no I'm not decrying communism as the worst evil but personally I'd rather be free and shitly paid than not and shitly paid. good points, except communism probably is the worst evil Yup, no ideology has caused such great and prolonged misery as communism. And yet in the UK, a small number people call themselves communists with pride. Why the word doesn't attract the shame that the term 'Facist' does it beyond my comprehension of common sense. " What about Christianity? Would you call that an ideology? Or Islam? How about the Mongols or the Romans? | |||
"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else Please differentiate between a 'Foreign Policy Initiative' and a military intervention. And given, apart from Vietnam, the USA never does anything militarily on its own means it is usually a NATO or UN intervention not just American. . Yeah I know what your saying and strictly speaking yes theres always other countries involved but we're really taking the likes of 100,000 Americans, 3000 British and 400 Germans/Dutch/Spanish. The vast majority like over 90% of the hardware is American, 90% of the troops... When we say NATO saved the Balkans, that's just a nice way of saying some other country's agreed with and went along with US policy!. . . I'm not trying to be argumentive, the US has done some incredibly daft shit foreign policy for lots of various reasons, but it really isn't the cause of all the world's problems and it really has helped millions of people over the decades from Korea to Vietnam to Kosovo to Indonesia to Russia and East Germany because belive it or not they spent trillions of dollars fighting communism and no I'm not decrying communism as the worst evil but personally I'd rather be free and shitly paid than not and shitly paid. good points, except communism probably is the worst evil Yup, no ideology has caused such great and prolonged misery as communism. And yet in the UK, a small number people call themselves communists with pride. Why the word doesn't attract the shame that the term 'Facist' does it beyond my comprehension of common sense. What about Christianity? Would you call that an ideology? Or Islam? How about the Mongols or the Romans? " I'd say that anyone who thinks average normal people are devout enough to fight over religion should do some proper research on a little thing called the seperation of church and state and also read scientific research on the subject such as Paul Colliers "greed or grievance" | |||
"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else Please differentiate between a 'Foreign Policy Initiative' and a military intervention. And given, apart from Vietnam, the USA never does anything militarily on its own means it is usually a NATO or UN intervention not just American. . Yeah I know what your saying and strictly speaking yes theres always other countries involved but we're really taking the likes of 100,000 Americans, 3000 British and 400 Germans/Dutch/Spanish. The vast majority like over 90% of the hardware is American, 90% of the troops... When we say NATO saved the Balkans, that's just a nice way of saying some other country's agreed with and went along with US policy!. . . I'm not trying to be argumentive, the US has done some incredibly daft shit foreign policy for lots of various reasons, but it really isn't the cause of all the world's problems and it really has helped millions of people over the decades from Korea to Vietnam to Kosovo to Indonesia to Russia and East Germany because belive it or not they spent trillions of dollars fighting communism and no I'm not decrying communism as the worst evil but personally I'd rather be free and shitly paid than not and shitly paid. good points, except communism probably is the worst evil Yup, no ideology has caused such great and prolonged misery as communism. And yet in the UK, a small number people call themselves communists with pride. Why the word doesn't attract the shame that the term 'Facist' does it beyond my comprehension of common sense. What about Christianity? Would you call that an ideology? Or Islam? How about the Mongols or the Romans? I'd say that anyone who thinks average normal people are devout enough to fight over religion should do some proper research on a little thing called the seperation of church and state and also read scientific research on the subject such as Paul Colliers "greed or grievance" " We don't have a seperation of church and state in this country, perhaps you are thinking of other countries? | |||
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"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else Please differentiate between a 'Foreign Policy Initiative' and a military intervention. And given, apart from Vietnam, the USA never does anything militarily on its own means it is usually a NATO or UN intervention not just American. . Yeah I know what your saying and strictly speaking yes theres always other countries involved but we're really taking the likes of 100,000 Americans, 3000 British and 400 Germans/Dutch/Spanish. The vast majority like over 90% of the hardware is American, 90% of the troops... When we say NATO saved the Balkans, that's just a nice way of saying some other country's agreed with and went along with US policy!. . . I'm not trying to be argumentive, the US has done some incredibly daft shit foreign policy for lots of various reasons, but it really isn't the cause of all the world's problems and it really has helped millions of people over the decades from Korea to Vietnam to Kosovo to Indonesia to Russia and East Germany because belive it or not they spent trillions of dollars fighting communism and no I'm not decrying communism as the worst evil but personally I'd rather be free and shitly paid than not and shitly paid. good points, except communism probably is the worst evil Yup, no ideology has caused such great and prolonged misery as communism. And yet in the UK, a small number people call themselves communists with pride. Why the word doesn't attract the shame that the term 'Facist' does it beyond my comprehension of common sense. What about Christianity? Would you call that an ideology? Or Islam? How about the Mongols or the Romans? I'd say that anyone who thinks average normal people are devout enough to fight over religion should do some proper research on a little thing called the seperation of church and state and also read scientific research on the subject such as Paul Colliers "greed or grievance" We don't have a seperation of church and state in this country, perhaps you are thinking of other countries? " Do you think they are as integrated today as they were during the crusades? | |||
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"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else Please differentiate between a 'Foreign Policy Initiative' and a military intervention. And given, apart from Vietnam, the USA never does anything militarily on its own means it is usually a NATO or UN intervention not just American. . Yeah I know what your saying and strictly speaking yes theres always other countries involved but we're really taking the likes of 100,000 Americans, 3000 British and 400 Germans/Dutch/Spanish. The vast majority like over 90% of the hardware is American, 90% of the troops... When we say NATO saved the Balkans, that's just a nice way of saying some other country's agreed with and went along with US policy!. . . I'm not trying to be argumentive, the US has done some incredibly daft shit foreign policy for lots of various reasons, but it really isn't the cause of all the world's problems and it really has helped millions of people over the decades from Korea to Vietnam to Kosovo to Indonesia to Russia and East Germany because belive it or not they spent trillions of dollars fighting communism and no I'm not decrying communism as the worst evil but personally I'd rather be free and shitly paid than not and shitly paid. good points, except communism probably is the worst evil Yup, no ideology has caused such great and prolonged misery as communism. And yet in the UK, a small number people call themselves communists with pride. Why the word doesn't attract the shame that the term 'Facist' does it beyond my comprehension of common sense. What about Christianity? Would you call that an ideology? Or Islam? How about the Mongols or the Romans? I'd say that anyone who thinks average normal people are devout enough to fight over religion should do some proper research on a little thing called the seperation of church and state and also read scientific research on the subject such as Paul Colliers "greed or grievance" We don't have a seperation of church and state in this country, perhaps you are thinking of other countries? " Nor do we have a democracy, but we do have ideologues on all sides in parliament.... | |||
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"I did think he'd give Hilary a decent run for him money but he just looks far more likely to implode and quit instead. " similar.. as the date gets nearer and the pressure mounts he will only go one way.. like watching a car crash in slow motion.. | |||
"I really think trump doesn't want to win.... i think he wants to lose close enough where he can claim the election is rigged...." If you are right that could destabilise the USA to a point where the redneck right resort to extreme violence against those Trump points his finger at. Do you think that may be his and his backers ultimate intention? | |||
It is good possible that the USA as we know it today may fall apart. Empires raise and fall, Brits should know that best by own experience
Trump regardless whether he wins or not, he contributes significantly to further division of the American political landscape
So does Hillary in her own way
The US electorate has to chose between pestilence and cholera
Our system is due for radical change and rebirth anyway which unfortunately requires the destruction of current structures. Until the end of WW2 the common way to achieve this reorganization was to brainwash people about the superiority of the nation, create mantras to project enemies and then have a little war party with increasing collateral civilian casualties. Not that popular in Europe at the moment, but human history is full of repeating the same horrible errors and the willingness to die and kill for whatever dubious cause.
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"The aggregation of quantitative matters will ultimately lead to the creation of matter in new qualities
It is good possible that the USA as we know it today may fall apart. Empires raise and fall, Brits should know that best by own experience
Trump regardless whether he wins or not, he contributes significantly to further division of the American political landscape
So does Hillary in her own way
The US electorate has to chose between pestilence and cholera
Our system is due for radical change and rebirth anyway which unfortunately requires the destruction of current structures. Until the end of WW2 the common way to achieve this reorganization was to brainwash people about the superiority of the nation, create mantras to project enemies and then have a little war party with increasing collateral civilian casualties. Not that popular in Europe at the moment, but human history is full of repeating the same horrible errors and the willingness to die and kill for whatever dubious cause.
There are scary times ahead indeed"Sounds a bit like Brexit | |||
"The aggregation of quantitative matters will ultimately lead to the creation of matter in new qualities
It is good possible that the USA as we know it today may fall apart. Empires raise and fall, Brits should know that best by own experience
Trump regardless whether he wins or not, he contributes significantly to further division of the American political landscape
So does Hillary in her own way
The US electorate has to chose between pestilence and cholera
Our system is due for radical change and rebirth anyway which unfortunately requires the destruction of current structures. Until the end of WW2 the common way to achieve this reorganization was to brainwash people about the superiority of the nation, create mantras to project enemies and then have a little war party with increasing collateral civilian casualties. Not that popular in Europe at the moment, but human history is full of repeating the same horrible errors and the willingness to die and kill for whatever dubious cause.
There are scary times ahead indeed
Sounds a bit like Brexit "Sounds a lot like brexit  | |||
"Would you have preferred the US left the Balkans massacring each other by the tens of thousands on a daily basis maybe?... Is it a case of anythings better than US intervention?. You see when I see people write utter bollocks about US foreign policy(which we all know isn't great) they tend to write it hoping to confirm their own bias more than anything else Please differentiate between a 'Foreign Policy Initiative' and a military intervention. And given, apart from Vietnam, the USA never does anything militarily on its own means it is usually a NATO or UN intervention not just American. . Yeah I know what your saying and strictly speaking yes theres always other countries involved but we're really taking the likes of 100,000 Americans, 3000 British and 400 Germans/Dutch/Spanish. The vast majority like over 90% of the hardware is American, 90% of the troops... When we say NATO saved the Balkans, that's just a nice way of saying some other country's agreed with and went along with US policy!. . . I'm not trying to be argumentive, the US has done some incredibly daft shit foreign policy for lots of various reasons, but it really isn't the cause of all the world's problems and it really has helped millions of people over the decades from Korea to Vietnam to Kosovo to Indonesia to Russia and East Germany because belive it or not they spent trillions of dollars fighting communism and no I'm not decrying communism as the worst evil but personally I'd rather be free and shitly paid than not and shitly paid. I am sure we agree on a lot here but my earlier point was about US Foreign Policy which seems to create more issues than it solves. As a matter of interest there were some 100,000 UK troops involved in Korea.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1285708.stm In Kosovo in June 1999 of the 20,000 troops who went in 8,000 were British. This grew to over 11,000 and the KFOR commander was British: Gen. Sir Mike Jackson. A man who once told his US superior in Brussels when commanded to attack the Russians in a Kosovo airfield "If you think I am going to tell my men to be the cause of WWIII you are bloody well mistaken!". He eventually went and had a chat with the Russian commander and they agreed to secure the airfield together...." Have to admire Sir Mike Jackson, hard arse para and a brain like a razor. He's probably more politically astute than Hilary Clinton, Donald Trump and Boris Johnson combined..... | |||
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"It is like brexit over here in the USA. People who are fired up emotionally to politics, where trump is just manipulating them, getting them angry etc. What should be hard factual evidence isn't interesting to them - it goes over their heads, as they're fired up. From Roman times, through hitler etc, the rabble rousing politicians work the plebs. I think we may have passed peak trump, he's possibly shot his load and the majority of the public failed to be satisfied." I feel your pain, we have Corbyn for that over here. Except he's never been anywhere near as successful as Trump. | |||
"It is like brexit over here in the USA. People who are fired up emotionally to politics, where trump is just manipulating them, getting them angry etc. What should be hard factual evidence isn't interesting to them - it goes over their heads, as they're fired up. From Roman times, through hitler etc, the rabble rousing politicians work the plebs. I think we may have passed peak trump, he's possibly shot his load and the majority of the public failed to be satisfied. I feel your pain, we have Corbyn for that over here. Except he's never been anywhere near as successful as Trump. " I would hardly call Corbyn a rebel raiser! He is more like an avuncular politics teacher in a regional college somewhere. | |||
"The president really isn't that powerful, that's not how the American system is set up, he can't launch nuclear weapons without his vp and Chief of staffs approval, he can't invoke any laws without congress passing it... I'm afraid Mr trump will be the most lame duck president ever elected contrary to popular opinion " a voice of reason ! trump is a chump a boss with no support never gets anything done.rednecks might be voting for him but the people who run the country mostly have an education and know the world is not flat.
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"It is like brexit over here in the USA. People who are fired up emotionally to politics, where trump is just manipulating them, getting them angry etc. What should be hard factual evidence isn't interesting to them - it goes over their heads, as they're fired up. From Roman times, through hitler etc, the rabble rousing politicians work the plebs. I think we may have passed peak trump, he's possibly shot his load and the majority of the public failed to be satisfied. I feel your pain, we have Corbyn for that over here. Except he's never been anywhere near as successful as Trump. I would hardly call Corbyn a rebel raiser! He is more like an avuncular politics teacher in a regional college somewhere. " I don't see the avuncular side to be honest. He strikes me as the kind of guy that would gladly ship us off to 're-education camps' if we disagreed with him. If you go back to '99 then Putin was called a "progressive liberal" who was going to turn Russia into a booming market economy. And now his people are poorer than their average Indian counterparts. | |||
"The president really isn't that powerful, that's not how the American system is set up, he can't launch nuclear weapons without his vp and Chief of staffs approval, he can't invoke any laws without congress passing it... I'm afraid Mr trump will be the most lame duck president ever elected contrary to popular opinion a voice of reason ! trump is a chump a boss with no support never gets anything done.rednecks might be voting for him but the people who run the country mostly have an education and know the world is not flat.
"I could actually see him being good at foreign policy. He's pragmatic rather than an idealogue like Clinton. | |||
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"Now Trump is suggesting that his supporters should shoot Hilary Clinton
Has he really lost his mind? "No, it seems you are suggesting that. Where does it say that he is suggesting his supporters or indeed supporters of "the second amendment" should "shoot" her he says - maybe the supporters of the second amendment can do something about it !!!! you are simply drawing another picture | |||
"Now Trump is suggesting that his supporters should shoot Hilary Clinton
Has he really lost his mind?
No, it seems you are suggesting that.
Where does it say that he is suggesting his supporters or indeed supporters of "the second amendment" should "shoot" her
he says - maybe the supporters of the second amendment can do something about it !!!!
you are simply drawing another picture"Well lets see if I am alone in my interpretation of his words, lets look at the headlines: Telegraph: Donald Trump 'hints that Hilary Clinton could be shot' by gun rights supporters Guardian: This is Donald Trump at his lowest yet: a man hinting at murder LA Times: Trump accused of threatening violence against Clinton with gun-rights remarks Washington Examiner: Trump's gun comments prove he's totally unfit for office Independent: Donald Trump's Second Amendment comment labeled 'dangerous' by Martin Luther King's daughter TPM:Ex-NSA Head: Others Would Be Detained Over Trump's '2nd Amendment' Line | |||
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"yawn this is getting boring Again where did he say that supporters of "the second amendment" should "shoot" her I suspect you also believe in fairy tales rather than fact" I guess reading between the lines is one of your strongest skills. | |||
"Now Trump is suggesting that his supporters should shoot Hilary Clinton
Has he really lost his mind?
No, it seems you are suggesting that.
Where does it say that he is suggesting his supporters or indeed supporters of "the second amendment" should "shoot" her
he says - maybe the supporters of the second amendment can do something about it !!!!
you are simply drawing another picture"what would be your assumption as to what he meant, given we don't thankfully share his thoughts..? | |||
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"Trump commented "he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers" then the incompetents start suggesting other things " If someone said to you "I know where you live, I hope you don't have an accident on your way home tonight." would you think that they were worried about your safety, or intended to do you harm? | |||
"Trump commented "he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers" then the incompetents start suggesting other things If someone said to you "I know where you live, I hope you don't have an accident on your way home tonight." would you think that they were worried about your safety, or intended to do you harm?" perhaps they know that where I live is troubled with vast herds of deer that regularly jump out onto the road to cross it, and its not little roe deer, they are large reds that can do a lot of damage I would suspect the person concerned would be aware of this troublesome crossing of deer | |||
"Trump commented "he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers" then the incompetents start suggesting other things If someone said to you "I know where you live, I hope you don't have an accident on your way home tonight." would you think that they were worried about your safety, or intended to do you harm?" . I'm not exactly a trump fan but he didn't say that did he?. He said second amendment supporters could do something about her getting in power?.... That's open to an awful lot of interpretations depending on your political leanings. I really hope he meant vote against her although it is true that highly motivated individuals could take the words the wrong way.... Like that chap who murdered that Glaswegian shop keeper! | |||
"Trump commented "he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers" then the incompetents start suggesting other things If someone said to you "I know where you live, I hope you don't have an accident on your way home tonight." would you think that they were worried about your safety, or intended to do you harm?. I'm not exactly a trump fan but he didn't say that did he?. He said second amendment supporters could do something about her getting in power?.... That's open to an awful lot of interpretations depending on your political leanings. I really hope he meant vote against her although it is true that highly motivated individuals could take the words the wrong way.... Like that chap who murdered that Glaswegian shop keeper!" If he meant get out and vote, then why didn’t he say that? Surely a candidate making a statement encouraging people to get involved in the democratic process wouldn’t have been a problem, but he didn’t make any mention of the democratic process, or voting, so its fairly clear what he was talking about. | |||
"Trump commented "he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers" then the incompetents start suggesting other things If someone said to you "I know where you live, I hope you don't have an accident on your way home tonight." would you think that they were worried about your safety, or intended to do you harm?. I'm not exactly a trump fan but he didn't say that did he?. He said second amendment supporters could do something about her getting in power?.... That's open to an awful lot of interpretations depending on your political leanings. I really hope he meant vote against her although it is true that highly motivated individuals could take the words the wrong way.... Like that chap who murdered that Glaswegian shop keeper! If he meant get out and vote, then why didn’t he say that? Surely a candidate making a statement encouraging people to get involved in the democratic process wouldn’t have been a problem, but he didn’t make any mention of the democratic process, or voting, so its fairly clear what he was talking about." Eh hello; He did go onto say; "he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers" you seem to forget that little bit, but then again that little bit throws your agreement right out of the window, seems you pick and choose the bits you want to hear | |||
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"Trump commented "he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers" then the incompetents start suggesting other things " actually that is a nice spin on what he said.... unforunately THIS is what he actually said..... “Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the second amendment,” (actually that is not true.. she has never said that, but it links on to the next bit) “If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the second amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I’ll tell you what, that will be a horrible day.” at best it was an insane and utterly stupid thing to say!!! especially in this climate where one of his followers may be crazy enough to take a pot shot (bearing in mind that both clinton and trump have secret service protection at the moment till the election) at worst, Threatening to kill, kidnap, or inflict bodily harm on a presidential candidate is a felony, punishable with up to five years in prison. its someone he should have even thought about saying in jest.... I know there are trump supporters on here... but even you guys shouldn't be trying to justify this... and yet again, there are!!!!  | |||
"Trump commented "he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers" then the incompetents start suggesting other things actually that is a nice spin on what he said.... unforunately THIS is what he actually said..... “Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the second amendment,” (actually that is not true.. she has never said that, but it links on to the next bit) “If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the second amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I’ll tell you what, that will be a horrible day.” at best it was an insane and utterly stupid thing to say!!! especially in this climate where one of his followers may be crazy enough to take a pot shot (bearing in mind that both clinton and trump have secret service protection at the moment till the election) at worst, Threatening to kill, kidnap, or inflict bodily harm on a presidential candidate is a felony, punishable with up to five years in prison. its someone he should have even thought about saying in jest.... I know there are trump supporters on here... but even you guys shouldn't be trying to justify this... and yet again, there are!!!! "fatio that was no spin keep in touch Speaking at a rally in North Carolina, Mr Trump hinted that gun rights advocates could stop her taking power. That sparked an online backlash, many accusing him of inciting violence. He replied that he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers. . He replied that he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers . He replied that he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers The remarks that sparked the firestorm were made at a rally in Wilmington on Tuesday afternoon. The Republican presidential nominee said of his Democratic opponent: "Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment. By the way, and if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. . p.s. fatio I stuck his comments in another 2 times so that you don't read over it and miss it | |||
"Trump commented "he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers" then the incompetents start suggesting other things actually that is a nice spin on what he said.... unforunately THIS is what he actually said..... “Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the second amendment,” (actually that is not true.. she has never said that, but it links on to the next bit) " To be fair, he didn't say that she did say it. He is giving his opinion on her intentions. Not allowable in a court of law (speculation) but common practice in the circus of politics. | |||
". . p.s. fatio I stuck his comments in another 2 times so that you don't read over it and miss it" its like i am talking to someone which their head in the sands.... let me once again give you the ACTUAL QUOTE of what he said..... “Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the second amendment, If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the second amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I’ll tell you what, that will be a horrible day.” as i said... at best it was a stupid thing to say, and yet, you think he does no wrong.... i am no fan of the way hillary had dealt with some of this issues that has befallen here on the campaign trail.... i voted for sanders in the democratic primary! people on the right and more and more distancing themselves from trump because hes batshit crazy.... and does not have the ability to cope with situations of his own making well... the mocking on the disabled reporter, the attack against the american judge of mexican heritage, the attack against the gold star family, the anti muslim policy and so on.... but yet it feels like his supporters are basically enabling and enboldening him... it might have work with his base.... but it doesn't work in the general | |||
" To be fair, he didn't say that she did say it. He is giving his opinion on her intentions. Not allowable in a court of law (speculation) but common practice in the circus of politics. " he has been pulled up on the campaign trail for saying by reporters and media alike.... it must be frustrating for republicans because we could have been talking about clinton foundation e-mails this morning, and she would have been on the backfoot.... but yet trump and not stay on message long enough without again putting his foot in his mouth..... | |||
". . p.s. fatio I stuck his comments in another 2 times so that you don't read over it and miss it its like i am talking to someone which their head in the sands.... let me once again give you the ACTUAL QUOTE of what he said..... “Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the second amendment, If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the second amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I’ll tell you what, that will be a horrible day.” as i said... at best it was a stupid thing to say, and yet, you think he does no wrong.... i am no fan of the way hillary had dealt with some of this issues that has befallen here on the campaign trail.... i voted for sanders in the democratic primary! people on the right and more and more distancing themselves from trump because hes batshit crazy.... and does not have the ability to cope with situations of his own making well... the mocking on the disabled reporter, the attack against the american judge of mexican heritage, the attack against the gold star family, the anti muslim policy and so on.... but yet it feels like his supporters are basically enabling and enboldening him... it might have work with his base.... but it doesn't work in the general " Fabio, you're a smart guy but we've been over this before... nobody is supporting trump because of what he says. They are supporting him because his surname isn't Clinton. So you can criticise the stupid things he says all you want, lots of people will agree with you and you'll feel better. But his surname still won't be Clinton. People are tired of politicians who want to debate what the meaning of the word 'is' is. | |||
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". Fabio, you're a smart guy but we've been over this before... nobody is supporting trump because of what he says. They are supporting him because his surname isn't Clinton. So you can criticise the stupid things he says all you want, lots of people will agree with you and you'll feel better. But his surname still won't be Clinton. People are tired of politicians who want to debate what the meaning of the word 'is' is." I do honestly get that.... but a what point do the people go from "voting for trump because the last name isn't clinton", to basically saying "I can't vote for either so i'll vote libertarian or green... or write in someones name"...... just how disgusted does one have to be to finally jump off the "trump" train..... | |||
". Fabio, you're a smart guy but we've been over this before... nobody is supporting trump because of what he says. They are supporting him because his surname isn't Clinton. So you can criticise the stupid things he says all you want, lots of people will agree with you and you'll feel better. But his surname still won't be Clinton. People are tired of politicians who want to debate what the meaning of the word 'is' is. I do honestly get that.... but a what point do the people go from "voting for trump because the last name isn't clinton", to basically saying "I can't vote for either so i'll vote libertarian or green... or write in someones name"...... just how disgusted does one have to be to finally jump off the "trump" train....." . Mate, humans are ideologically driven, once they've "bought the train ticket" jumping off would be to admit a mistake..... And we all know people don't like admitting mistakes, just the word mistake is now currently seen as shameful, however people like people with "experience" this is a nice way of saying I want somebody who's made loads of mistakes and has learnt something from their life time of cock ups!!. Of course there are those that make cock up after cock up and never learn.... These people usually go into politics | |||
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"if number 12 got your vote... and i am not really surprised that would come from you.... then you truely do not have an understanding of what the "black lives matter" movement is and how it came to represent... oscar grant, sandra bland, tamir rice, eric garner, laquan mcdonald, treyvon martin, walter scott alton sterling and the list of names goes on and on and on" BLM is like every other grassroots movement. It starts off well but then gets hijacked by professionals hungry for power. Just like the occupy movement, free Tibet and PETA. It's full of bellends and professional victims now. People who couldn't care less about equality but just want to advance their own group. | |||
"if number 12 got your vote... and i am not really surprised that would come from you.... then you truely do not have an understanding of what the "black lives matter" movement is and how it came to represent... oscar grant, sandra bland, tamir rice, eric garner, laquan mcdonald, treyvon martin, walter scott alton sterling and the list of names goes on and on and on BLM is like every other grassroots movement. It starts off well but then gets hijacked by professionals hungry for power. Just like the occupy movement, free Tibet and PETA. It's full of bellends and professional victims now. People who couldn't care less about equality but just want to advance their own group. " Having read about nearly all of these cases on wikipaedia have to say that though nearly all the deaths are shocking and all probably avoidable one thin connects nearly all of them that is : Had they not been out committing crime or carrying weapons not one of thhe deaths i read about would have happened | |||
"Are we seeing the beginning of the end for Donald Trump? His comments about Mexicans, Muslims, women, disabled people etc seemed not to hurt him at all, calling Hilary "the Devil" and calling for Russia to hack government emails to find dirt on her didn't cause him to miss a beat. But has attacking the mother of a dead soldier been one step too far? A Republican congressman has stated that he will be voting for Hilary, and its fairly well known that most of the party establishment hate him, so can he win without their support? Absolutely You would be surprised the amount of Americans backing Trump and in a way I hope he gets through, will be interesting to see the change" It's definitely going to be different and at time a scary roller coaster ride, it will so so funny hearing the PC folks whinging their bags off when he is elected | |||
"Trump commented "he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers" then the incompetents start suggesting other things If someone said to you "I know where you live, I hope you don't have an accident on your way home tonight." would you think that they were worried about your safety, or intended to do you harm? perhaps they know that where I live is troubled with vast herds of deer that regularly jump out onto the road to cross it, and its not little roe deer, they are large reds that can do a lot of damage I would suspect the person concerned would be aware of this troublesome crossing of deer" Lol  | |||
"Trump commented "he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers" then the incompetents start suggesting other things If someone said to you "I know where you live, I hope you don't have an accident on your way home tonight." would you think that they were worried about your safety, or intended to do you harm? perhaps they know that where I live is troubled with vast herds of deer that regularly jump out onto the road to cross it, and its not little roe deer, they are large reds that can do a lot of damage I would suspect the person concerned would be aware of this troublesome crossing of deer" Now I know where you live, I hope you don't have an accident on your way home. Be careful on those dark roads  | |||
"Trump commented "he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers" then the incompetents start suggesting other things If someone said to you "I know where you live, I hope you don't have an accident on your way home tonight." would you think that they were worried about your safety, or intended to do you harm? perhaps they know that where I live is troubled with vast herds of deer that regularly jump out onto the road to cross it, and its not little roe deer, they are large reds that can do a lot of damage I would suspect the person concerned would be aware of this troublesome crossing of deer Now I know where you live, I hope you don't have an accident on your way home. Be careful on those dark roads "Everytime I see your username I think of NWA | |||
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"if number 12 got your vote... and i am not really surprised that would come from you.... then you truely do not have an understanding of what the "black lives matter" movement is and how it came to represent... oscar grant, sandra bland, tamir rice, eric garner, laquan mcdonald, treyvon martin, walter scott alton sterling and the list of names goes on and on and on BLM is like every other grassroots movement. It starts off well but then gets hijacked by professionals hungry for power. Just like the occupy movement, free Tibet and PETA. It's full of bellends and professional victims now. People who couldn't care less about equality but just want to advance their own group. Having read about nearly all of these cases on wikipaedia have to say that though nearly all the deaths are shocking and all probably avoidable one thin connects nearly all of them that is : Had they not been out committing crime or carrying weapons not one of thhe deaths i read about would have happened " what did Trayvon Martin do to warrant an instant death sentence? We wasn't committing any crime.
"On the evening of February 26, Martin went to a convenience store and purchased candy and a canned drink. As Martin returned from the store, he walked through a neighborhood that had been victimized by robberies several times that year. Zimmerman, a member of the community watch, spotted him and called the Sanford Police to report him for suspicious behavior. Moments later, there was an altercation between the two individuals in which Martin was shot in the chest."
People in America are being killed by the police after being stopped for rolling through a stop sign or having a faulty brake light. Do you think that execution at the hands of the police is warranted for that? | |||
"Eazy mutha fucking E. Staight Outta Welling "It always makes me think of the 90s boyband East 17 | |||
"if number 12 got your vote... and i am not really surprised that would come from you.... then you truely do not have an understanding of what the "black lives matter" movement is and how it came to represent... oscar grant, sandra bland, tamir rice, eric garner, laquan mcdonald, treyvon martin, walter scott alton sterling and the list of names goes on and on and on BLM is like every other grassroots movement. It starts off well but then gets hijacked by professionals hungry for power. Just like the occupy movement, free Tibet and PETA. It's full of bellends and professional victims now. People who couldn't care less about equality but just want to advance their own group. Having read about nearly all of these cases on wikipaedia have to say that though nearly all the deaths are shocking and all probably avoidable one thin connects nearly all of them that is : Had they not been out committing crime or carrying weapons not one of thhe deaths i read about would have happened what did Trayvon Martin do to warrant an instant death sentence? We wasn't committing any crime.
"On the evening of February 26, Martin went to a convenience store and purchased candy and a canned drink. As Martin returned from the store, he walked through a neighborhood that had been victimized by robberies several times that year. Zimmerman, a member of the community watch, spotted him and called the Sanford Police to report him for suspicious behavior. Moments later, there was an altercation between the two individuals in which Martin was shot in the chest."
People in America are being killed by the police after being stopped for rolling through a stop sign or having a faulty brake light. Do you think that execution at the hands of the police is warranted for that? "It's obvious that there's going to be human error in policing, some is accidental and some is racist. But the correct response to injustice is never going to marching through the street chanting "what do we want? - dead cops". | |||
"Eazy mutha fucking E. Staight Outta Welling
It always makes me think of the 90s boyband East 17 "You wanna know how I know you're gay? | |||
"Trump commented "he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers" then the incompetents start suggesting other things If someone said to you "I know where you live, I hope you don't have an accident on your way home tonight." would you think that they were worried about your safety, or intended to do you harm? perhaps they know that where I live is troubled with vast herds of deer that regularly jump out onto the road to cross it, and its not little roe deer, they are large reds that can do a lot of damage I would suspect the person concerned would be aware of this troublesome crossing of deer Now I know where you live, I hope you don't have an accident on your way home. Be careful on those dark roads "stop by, come in, have a coffee, just be very careful if you feel the need for a shower | |||
"if number 12 got your vote... and i am not really surprised that would come from you.... then you truely do not have an understanding of what the "black lives matter" movement is and how it came to represent... oscar grant, sandra bland, tamir rice, eric garner, laquan mcdonald, treyvon martin, walter scott alton sterling and the list of names goes on and on and on" you saying "black" lives matter more than all lives; I totally disagree I say ALL life's matter, what makes you think that black lives should matter more than all lives, its total nonsense and attention seeking. You need to change your call from "black lives matter" to "All lives matter" or is that beyond you. There was a few threads on this in the lounge months back and a similar conclusion found. | |||
"Eazy mutha fucking E. Staight Outta Welling
It always makes me think of the 90s boyband East 17
You wanna know how I know you're gay? "What's wrong with being gay? Are you trying to use that as an insult? | |||
"Eazy mutha fucking E. Staight Outta Welling
It always makes me think of the 90s boyband East 17
You wanna know how I know you're gay?
What's wrong with being gay? Are you trying to use that as an insult? "Guess you haven't seen the 40 year old virgin or just lost your sense of humor to PC | |||
"Eazy mutha fucking E. Staight Outta Welling
It always makes me think of the 90s boyband East 17
You wanna know how I know you're gay?
What's wrong with being gay? Are you trying to use that as an insult?
Guess you haven't seen the 40 year old virgin or just lost your sense of humor to PC "I have seen the film, but that reference must have gone right over my head. | |||
"if number 12 got your vote... and i am not really surprised that would come from you.... then you truely do not have an understanding of what the "black lives matter" movement is and how it came to represent... oscar grant, sandra bland, tamir rice, eric garner, laquan mcdonald, treyvon martin, walter scott alton sterling and the list of names goes on and on and on BLM is like every other grassroots movement. It starts off well but then gets hijacked by professionals hungry for power. Just like the occupy movement, free Tibet and PETA. It's full of bellends and professional victims now. People who couldn't care less about equality but just want to advance their own group. Having read about nearly all of these cases on wikipaedia have to say that though nearly all the deaths are shocking and all probably avoidable one thin connects nearly all of them that is : Had they not been out committing crime or carrying weapons not one of thhe deaths i read about would have happened what did Trayvon Martin do to warrant an instant death sentence? We wasn't committing any crime.
"On the evening of February 26, Martin went to a convenience store and purchased candy and a canned drink. As Martin returned from the store, he walked through a neighborhood that had been victimized by robberies several times that year. Zimmerman, a member of the community watch, spotted him and called the Sanford Police to report him for suspicious behavior. Moments later, there was an altercation between the two individuals in which Martin was shot in the chest."
People in America are being killed by the police after being stopped for rolling through a stop sign or having a faulty brake light. Do you think that execution at the hands of the police is warranted for that? "He was committing crime he was carrying a concealed weapon and the guy was cleared of murder and even manslaughter but i did also say that all the deaths were shocking and i agree that the police should hold their heads in shame | |||
"Eazy mutha fucking E. Staight Outta Welling
It always makes me think of the 90s boyband East 17
You wanna know how I know you're gay?
What's wrong with being gay? Are you trying to use that as an insult?
Guess you haven't seen the 40 year old virgin or just lost your sense of humor to PC
I have seen the film, but that reference must have gone right over my head."It's when the two guys are sat playing a video game together. YouTube is your friend. | |||
"Eazy mutha fucking E. Staight Outta Welling
It always makes me think of the 90s boyband East 17
You wanna know how I know you're gay?
What's wrong with being gay? Are you trying to use that as an insult?
Guess you haven't seen the 40 year old virgin or just lost your sense of humor to PC
I have seen the film, but that reference must have gone right over my head.
It's when the two guys are sat playing a video game together. YouTube is your friend. "games are for children | |||
"if number 12 got your vote... and i am not really surprised that would come from you.... then you truely do not have an understanding of what the "black lives matter" movement is and how it came to represent... oscar grant, sandra bland, tamir rice, eric garner, laquan mcdonald, treyvon martin, walter scott alton sterling and the list of names goes on and on and on BLM is like every other grassroots movement. It starts off well but then gets hijacked by professionals hungry for power. Just like the occupy movement, free Tibet and PETA. It's full of bellends and professional victims now. People who couldn't care less about equality but just want to advance their own group. Having read about nearly all of these cases on wikipaedia have to say that though nearly all the deaths are shocking and all probably avoidable one thin connects nearly all of them that is : Had they not been out committing crime or carrying weapons not one of thhe deaths i read about would have happened what did Trayvon Martin do to warrant an instant death sentence? We wasn't committing any crime.
"On the evening of February 26, Martin went to a convenience store and purchased candy and a canned drink. As Martin returned from the store, he walked through a neighborhood that had been victimized by robberies several times that year. Zimmerman, a member of the community watch, spotted him and called the Sanford Police to report him for suspicious behavior. Moments later, there was an altercation between the two individuals in which Martin was shot in the chest."
People in America are being killed by the police after being stopped for rolling through a stop sign or having a faulty brake light. Do you think that execution at the hands of the police is warranted for that?
He was committing crime he was carrying a concealed weapon and the guy was cleared of murder and even manslaughter but i did also say that all the deaths were shocking and i agree that the police should hold their heads in shame
"Trayvon Martin was unarmed, he was not carrying a concealed weapon. If a black man armed with a gun had followed and confronted and then shot dead an unarmed white teenager do you think the justice system would have come to the same verdict? | |||
"............. He was committing crime he was carrying a concealed weapon and the guy was cleared of murder and even manslaughter but i did also say that all the deaths were shocking and i agree that the police should hold their heads in shame " 1) He was not carrying a concealed anything other than a bag of sweets. 2) The person who shot him was not a Policeman and indeed he was told by the Police despatch team NOT to get involved. | |||
"if number 12 got your vote... and i am not really surprised that would come from you.... then you truely do not have an understanding of what the "black lives matter" movement is and how it came to represent... oscar grant, sandra bland, tamir rice, eric garner, laquan mcdonald, treyvon martin, walter scott alton sterling and the list of names goes on and on and on BLM is like every other grassroots movement. It starts off well but then gets hijacked by professionals hungry for power. Just like the occupy movement, free Tibet and PETA. It's full of bellends and professional victims now. People who couldn't care less about equality but just want to advance their own group. Having read about nearly all of these cases on wikipaedia have to say that though nearly all the deaths are shocking and all probably avoidable one thin connects nearly all of them that is : Had they not been out committing crime or carrying weapons not one of thhe deaths i read about would have happened what did Trayvon Martin do to warrant an instant death sentence? We wasn't committing any crime.
"On the evening of February 26, Martin went to a convenience store and purchased candy and a canned drink. As Martin returned from the store, he walked through a neighborhood that had been victimized by robberies several times that year. Zimmerman, a member of the community watch, spotted him and called the Sanford Police to report him for suspicious behavior. Moments later, there was an altercation between the two individuals in which Martin was shot in the chest."
People in America are being killed by the police after being stopped for rolling through a stop sign or having a faulty brake light. Do you think that execution at the hands of the police is warranted for that?
He was committing crime he was carrying a concealed weapon and the guy was cleared of murder and even manslaughter but i did also say that all the deaths were shocking and i agree that the police should hold their heads in shame
Trayvon Martin was unarmed, he was not carrying a concealed weapon. If a black man armed with a gun had followed and confronted and then shot dead an unarmed white teenager do you think the justice system would have come to the same verdict? "when Martin suddenly appeared while Zimmerman was walking back to his vehicle. He described Martin at different points in the interviews as appearing "out of nowhere", "from the darkness", and as "jump[ing] out of the bushes". Zimmerman said that Martin asked, "You got a fucking problem, homie?" Zimmerman replied no, then Martin said "You got a problem now" and punched Zimmerman. As they struggled on the ground, Zimmerman on his back with Martin on top of him, Zimmerman yelled for help "probably 50 times". (See Background yells for help in 9-1-1 calls) Martin told him to "Shut the fuck up" as he hit him in the face and pounded his head on a concrete sidewalk. When Zimmerman tried to move off the concrete, Martin saw his gun and said "You're going to die tonight motherfucker!" Martin grabbed for the gun, but Zimmerman grabbed it first. He said after firing his weapon at Martin, he was not sure at first that he had hit him, so he got on top of him in order to subdue him.Bystanders and police arrived shortly after Martin was shot. Police reports state Zimmerman "appeared to have a broken and a bloody nose and swelling of his face". Zimmerman was offered three chances to be taken to the hospital, but declined each time, according to police reports released by the prosecution. ABC News reported that a medical report compiled by Zimmerman's family physician showed that, following the altercation with Martin, Zimmerman was diagnosed with a closed fracture of his nose, two black eyes, lacerations to the back of his head, a minor back injury, and bruising in his upper lip and cheek. . On April 11, 2012, Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder in Martin's death. The trial began on June 24, 2013, and was presented to the jury for deliberations on July 12. Zimmerman was found not guilty the following day | |||
"if number 12 got your vote... and i am not really surprised that would come from you.... then you truely do not have an understanding of what the "black lives matter" movement is and how it came to represent... oscar grant, sandra bland, tamir rice, eric garner, laquan mcdonald, treyvon martin, walter scott alton sterling and the list of names goes on and on and on BLM is like every other grassroots movement. It starts off well but then gets hijacked by professionals hungry for power. Just like the occupy movement, free Tibet and PETA. It's full of bellends and professional victims now. People who couldn't care less about equality but just want to advance their own group. Having read about nearly all of these cases on wikipaedia have to say that though nearly all the deaths are shocking and all probably avoidable one thin connects nearly all of them that is : Had they not been out committing crime or carrying weapons not one of thhe deaths i read about would have happened what did Trayvon Martin do to warrant an instant death sentence? We wasn't committing any crime.
"On the evening of February 26, Martin went to a convenience store and purchased candy and a canned drink. As Martin returned from the store, he walked through a neighborhood that had been victimized by robberies several times that year. Zimmerman, a member of the community watch, spotted him and called the Sanford Police to report him for suspicious behavior. Moments later, there was an altercation between the two individuals in which Martin was shot in the chest."
People in America are being killed by the police after being stopped for rolling through a stop sign or having a faulty brake light. Do you think that execution at the hands of the police is warranted for that?
He was committing crime he was carrying a concealed weapon and the guy was cleared of murder and even manslaughter but i did also say that all the deaths were shocking and i agree that the police should hold their heads in shame
Trayvon Martin was unarmed, he was not carrying a concealed weapon. If a black man armed with a gun had followed and confronted and then shot dead an unarmed white teenager do you think the justice system would have come to the same verdict? ". Why have you brought it to a black and white issue?. Zimmerman is half Peruvian for starters!. This type of shooting happens on a regular basis all over the united states , black on black, Hispanic on Hispanic and white on white and every combination in between, is there any evidence that this incident was racially motivated?. | |||
"if number 12 got your vote... and i am not really surprised that would come from you.... then you truely do not have an understanding of what the "black lives matter" movement is and how it came to represent... oscar grant, sandra bland, tamir rice, eric garner, laquan mcdonald, treyvon martin, walter scott alton sterling and the list of names goes on and on and on BLM is like every other grassroots movement. It starts off well but then gets hijacked by professionals hungry for power. Just like the occupy movement, free Tibet and PETA. It's full of bellends and professional victims now. People who couldn't care less about equality but just want to advance their own group. Having read about nearly all of these cases on wikipaedia have to say that though nearly all the deaths are shocking and all probably avoidable one thin connects nearly all of them that is : Had they not been out committing crime or carrying weapons not one of thhe deaths i read about would have happened what did Trayvon Martin do to warrant an instant death sentence? We wasn't committing any crime.
"On the evening of February 26, Martin went to a convenience store and purchased candy and a canned drink. As Martin returned from the store, he walked through a neighborhood that had been victimized by robberies several times that year. Zimmerman, a member of the community watch, spotted him and called the Sanford Police to report him for suspicious behavior. Moments later, there was an altercation between the two individuals in which Martin was shot in the chest."
People in America are being killed by the police after being stopped for rolling through a stop sign or having a faulty brake light. Do you think that execution at the hands of the police is warranted for that?
He was committing crime he was carrying a concealed weapon and the guy was cleared of murder and even manslaughter but i did also say that all the deaths were shocking and i agree that the police should hold their heads in shame
Trayvon Martin was unarmed, he was not carrying a concealed weapon. If a black man armed with a gun had followed and confronted and then shot dead an unarmed white teenager do you think the justice system would have come to the same verdict? .
Why have you brought it to a black and white issue?.
Zimmerman is half Peruvian for starters!.
This type of shooting happens on a regular basis all over the united states , black on black, Hispanic on Hispanic and white on white and every combination in between, is there any evidence that this incident was racially motivated?."self defence The trial began on June 24, 2013, and was presented to the jury for deliberations on July 12. Zimmerman was found not guilty the following day | |||
"if number 12 got your vote... and i am not really surprised that would come from you.... then you truely do not have an understanding of what the "black lives matter" movement is and how it came to represent... oscar grant, sandra bland, tamir rice, eric garner, laquan mcdonald, treyvon martin, walter scott alton sterling and the list of names goes on and on and on BLM is like every other grassroots movement. It starts off well but then gets hijacked by professionals hungry for power. Just like the occupy movement, free Tibet and PETA. It's full of bellends and professional victims now. People who couldn't care less about equality but just want to advance their own group. Having read about nearly all of these cases on wikipaedia have to say that though nearly all the deaths are shocking and all probably avoidable one thin connects nearly all of them that is : Had they not been out committing crime or carrying weapons not one of thhe deaths i read about would have happened what did Trayvon Martin do to warrant an instant death sentence? We wasn't committing any crime.
"On the evening of February 26, Martin went to a convenience store and purchased candy and a canned drink. As Martin returned from the store, he walked through a neighborhood that had been victimized by robberies several times that year. Zimmerman, a member of the community watch, spotted him and called the Sanford Police to report him for suspicious behavior. Moments later, there was an altercation between the two individuals in which Martin was shot in the chest."
People in America are being killed by the police after being stopped for rolling through a stop sign or having a faulty brake light. Do you think that execution at the hands of the police is warranted for that?
He was committing crime he was carrying a concealed weapon and the guy was cleared of murder and even manslaughter but i did also say that all the deaths were shocking and i agree that the police should hold their heads in shame
Trayvon Martin was unarmed, he was not carrying a concealed weapon. If a black man armed with a gun had followed and confronted and then shot dead an unarmed white teenager do you think the justice system would have come to the same verdict? .
Why have you brought it to a black and white issue?.
Zimmerman is half Peruvian for starters!.
This type of shooting happens on a regular basis all over the united states , black on black, Hispanic on Hispanic and white on white and every combination in between, is there any evidence that this incident was racially motivated?."Why have I brought it to a race issue? Look at the top of the quote, we have been talking about the Black Lives Matter movement. | |||
"Trump commented "he was only urging gun rights supporters to vote in large numbers" then the incompetents start suggesting other things If someone said to you "I know where you live, I hope you don't have an accident on your way home tonight." would you think that they were worried about your safety, or intended to do you harm? perhaps they know that where I live is troubled with vast herds of deer that regularly jump out onto the road to cross it, and its not little roe deer, they are large reds that can do a lot of damage I would suspect the person concerned would be aware of this troublesome crossing of deer Now I know where you live, I hope you don't have an accident on your way home. Be careful on those dark roads
stop by, come in, have a coffee, just be very careful if you feel the need for a shower "That's what I call a threat  | |||
"if number 12 got your vote... and i am not really surprised that would come from you.... then you truely do not have an understanding of what the "black lives matter" movement is and how it came to represent... oscar grant, sandra bland, tamir rice, eric garner, laquan mcdonald, treyvon martin, walter scott alton sterling and the list of names goes on and on and on BLM is like every other grassroots movement. It starts off well but then gets hijacked by professionals hungry for power. Just like the occupy movement, free Tibet and PETA. It's full of bellends and professional victims now. People who couldn't care less about equality but just want to advance their own group. Having read about nearly all of these cases on wikipaedia have to say that though nearly all the deaths are shocking and all probably avoidable one thin connects nearly all of them that is : Had they not been out committing crime or carrying weapons not one of thhe deaths i read about would have happened what did Trayvon Martin do to warrant an instant death sentence? We wasn't committing any crime.
"On the evening of February 26, Martin went to a convenience store and purchased candy and a canned drink. As Martin returned from the store, he walked through a neighborhood that had been victimized by robberies several times that year. Zimmerman, a member of the community watch, spotted him and called the Sanford Police to report him for suspicious behavior. Moments later, there was an altercation between the two individuals in which Martin was shot in the chest."
People in America are being killed by the police after being stopped for rolling through a stop sign or having a faulty brake light. Do you think that execution at the hands of the police is warranted for that?
He was committing crime he was carrying a concealed weapon and the guy was cleared of murder and even manslaughter but i did also say that all the deaths were shocking and i agree that the police should hold their heads in shame
Trayvon Martin was unarmed, he was not carrying a concealed weapon. If a black man armed with a gun had followed and confronted and then shot dead an unarmed white teenager do you think the justice system would have come to the same verdict? "If he was unarmed tell me why the shooter also had to receive hospital treatment for a stab wound , however i do agree that had it been the other way round a manslaughter verdict may have been returned | |||
"if number 12 got your vote... and i am not really surprised that would come from you.... then you truely do not have an understanding of what the "black lives matter" movement is and how it came to represent... oscar grant, sandra bland, tamir rice, eric garner, laquan mcdonald, treyvon martin, walter scott alton sterling and the list of names goes on and on and on so lets keep going on and on..... Philando Castile akai gurley freddie gray eric harris Jonathan Ferrell John Crawford Ezell Ford" In a sad way this actually comes back to the OP and the latest Trump up-cock. If there was no 2nd Amendment and therefore not so many guns in the USA I would suggest (as an outsider who lives in a safer country with prescriptive gun laws) that all these black lives (and thousands of white ones) would not have been ended so brutally and unjustly.... But maybe that is for another Thread ... | |||
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"I think trump is heading for the biggest loss in presidential election history. The next 100 days will tell, but I think that Trump is going to hit out at more and more people, cause more and more offence, and basically sink himself, rather than be beaten by Clinton. " I fear you will be unpleasantly surprised at how many rampantly racists and ignorant rednecks will lap up everything he says with gusto and vote for him. Sad fact is he is actually voicing many Americans views. The fact that those views are born out of the desperation caused by the likes of Trump exporting US jobs to SE Asia and China has no baring on the fact that many see Trump as a saviour who is giving many a voice. | |||
"I think trump is heading for the biggest loss in presidential election history. The next 100 days will tell, but I think that Trump is going to hit out at more and more people, cause more and more offence, and basically sink himself, rather than be beaten by Clinton. I fear you will be unpleasantly surprised at how many rampantly racists and ignorant rednecks will lap up everything he says with gusto and vote for him. Sad fact is he is actually voicing many Americans views. The fact that those views are born out of the desperation caused by the likes of Trump exporting US jobs to SE Asia and China has no baring on the fact that many see Trump as a saviour who is giving many a voice." I'm not really sure how off shoring can objectively be used against him. In a competitive market it's basically a necessity unless their is a significant consumer group willing to pay higher prices for domestically made goods. Since the latter does not appear to exist then it's the aggregate decisions that these people made every day that drove the trend. I don't remember them complaining about falling consumer prices... | |||
"I think trump is heading for the biggest loss in presidential election history. The next 100 days will tell, but I think that Trump is going to hit out at more and more people, cause more and more offence, and basically sink himself, rather than be beaten by Clinton. I fear you will be unpleasantly surprised at how many rampantly racists and ignorant rednecks will lap up everything he says with gusto and vote for him. Sad fact is he is actually voicing many Americans views. The fact that those views are born out of the desperation caused by the likes of Trump exporting US jobs to SE Asia and China has no baring on the fact that many see Trump as a saviour who is giving many a voice." Ah say boy; why you insult us god dam Rednecks ah say, back off boy before ah kick yah ass yah god dam city dweller. | |||
"Ah say boy; why you insult us god dam Rednecks ah say, back off boy before ah kick yah ass yah god dam city dweller." Not funny... The mother of a nice of mine is from a real GOP backwoods redneck clan. They disowned her when she left her Oklahoma valley to attend Washington State University, and when they heard that she was living with an English man in Chicago and going to have his child they sent a couple of her brothers to the city to kill my brother and take her home! Lucky for my brother and his girlfriend they were so dumb they walked into his building carrying shotguns and told the security they were there to deal with the man who done their family wrong and take their sister home! | |||
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"In all the debate over Trump or Clinton you are missing an important point. Americans have devised a clever system of electing an opposing congress. So you have Republican in the white house and demorate congress and vice versa. which keeps both sides in check quite nicely most of the time "Problem is when both houses are controlled by the same party like for the last two years when republicans have basically railroaded anything obama has tried to do would be terrible for the world for at least two years if trump was to get in | |||
"In all the debate over Trump or Clinton you are missing an important point. Americans have devised a clever system of electing an opposing congress. So you have Republican in the white house and demorate congress and vice versa. which keeps both sides in check quite nicely most of the time "And leads to eternal Sequestration when Government shuts down. You forgot they also invented a system that costs $ Billions .... | |||
"In all the debate over Trump or Clinton you are missing an important point. Americans have devised a clever system of electing an opposing congress. So you have Republican in the white house and demorate congress and vice versa. which keeps both sides in check quite nicely most of the time
And leads to eternal Sequestration when Government shuts down. You forgot they also invented a system that costs $ Billions .... "Doesn't cost me much, any system that makes government less efficient tends to stop them causing too much trouble for the population, though the USA does seem to be pretty good at so much expensive democracy that nobody gets a say in how it's run. | |||
"Ah say boy; why you insult us god dam Rednecks ah say, back off boy before ah kick yah ass yah god dam city dweller. Not funny... The mother of a nice of mine is from a real GOP backwoods redneck clan. They disowned her when she left her Oklahoma valley to attend Washington State University, and when they heard that she was living with an English man in Chicago and going to have his child they sent a couple of her brothers to the city to kill my brother and take her home! Lucky for my brother and his girlfriend they were so dumb they walked into his building carrying shotguns and told the security they were there to deal with the man who done their family wrong and take their sister home!" two sides to every story, I am sure they have a different tale to tell | |||
"Ah say boy; why you insult us god dam Rednecks ah say, back off boy before ah kick yah ass yah god dam city dweller. Not funny... The mother of a nice of mine is from a real GOP backwoods redneck clan. They disowned her when she left her Oklahoma valley to attend Washington State University, and when they heard that she was living with an English man in Chicago and going to have his child they sent a couple of her brothers to the city to kill my brother and take her home! Lucky for my brother and his girlfriend they were so dumb they walked into his building carrying shotguns and told the security they were there to deal with the man who done their family wrong and take their sister home!" The mother of your niece would be either you sister or sister in law. Which would imply a whole bigger and more interesting story. | |||
"The mother of your niece would be either you sister or sister in law. Which would imply a whole bigger and more interesting story." Really? Go back and read what I said not what you think I said. I never mentioned marriage because my brother never married the mother of my niece. | |||
" Trayvon Martin was unarmed, he was not carrying a concealed weapon. If a black man armed with a gun had followed and confronted and then shot dead an unarmed white teenager do you think the justice system would have come to the same verdict? when Martin suddenly appeared while Zimmerman was walking back to his vehicle. He described Martin at different points in the interviews as appearing "out of nowhere", "from the darkness", and as "jump[ing] out of the bushes". Zimmerman said that Martin asked, "You got a fucking problem, homie?" Zimmerman replied no, then Martin said "You got a problem now" and punched Zimmerman. As they struggled on the ground, Zimmerman on his back with Martin on top of him, Zimmerman yelled for help "probably 50 times". (See Background yells for help in 9-1-1 calls) Martin told him to "Shut the fuck up" as he hit him in the face and pounded his head on a concrete sidewalk. When Zimmerman tried to move off the concrete, Martin saw his gun and said "You're going to die tonight motherfucker!" Martin grabbed for the gun, but Zimmerman grabbed it first. He said after firing his weapon at Martin, he was not sure at first that he had hit him, so he got on top of him in order to subdue him.Bystanders and police arrived shortly after Martin was shot. Police reports state Zimmerman "appeared to have a broken and a bloody nose and swelling of his face". Zimmerman was offered three chances to be taken to the hospital, but declined each time, according to police reports released by the prosecution. ABC News reported that a medical report compiled by Zimmerman's family physician showed that, following the altercation with Martin, Zimmerman was diagnosed with a closed fracture of his nose, two black eyes, lacerations to the back of his head, a minor back injury, and bruising in his upper lip and cheek. . On April 11, 2012, Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder in Martin's death. The trial began on June 24, 2013, and was presented to the jury for deliberations on July 12. Zimmerman was found not guilty the following day " big problem here.... thats only one side of the story.... we didn't get to hear the other side because someone shot and killed him after explicitly being told by the police on 911 not to follow him!!!! if someone followed me and they had a gun, I might think they were the aggressor.... | |||
"The mother of your niece would be either you sister or sister in law. Which would imply a whole bigger and more interesting story. Really? Go back and read what I said not what you think I said. I never mentioned marriage because my brother never married the mother of my niece." Would still make for a far more interesting story than the one you made up | |||
"The mother of your niece would be either you sister or sister in law. Which would imply a whole bigger and more interesting story. Really? Go back and read what I said not what you think I said. I never mentioned marriage because my brother never married the mother of my niece." stop insulting them good ol rednecks, they are a credit to their nation | |||
"Are we seeing the beginning of the end for Donald Trump? His comments about Mexicans, Muslims, women, disabled people etc seemed not to hurt him at all, calling Hilary "the Devil" and calling for Russia to hack government emails to find dirt on her didn't cause him to miss a beat. But has attacking the mother of a dead soldier been one step too far? A Republican congressman has stated that he will be voting for Hilary, and its fairly well known that most of the party establishment hate him, so can he win without their support? " looks like you were wrong | |||
"in any other year a republican candidate should have walked it against clinton.... but clinton is up 10 against trump in most polls.... trump can't help putting his foot in his mouth, to the point where i think he is addicted to the taste of leather shoes!!! its got to the point where he isn't endorsing senior members of his own party... and i think a case could be made to check his mental wellbeing... I really think trump doesn't want to win.... i think he wants to lose close enough where he can claim the election is rigged...." Wrong lol, | |||
"the probably for trump is that he can say what he say oblivious because it is not a vote he is after... and it appeals to a certain type of person in the party he represents... if david duke, who was a grand wizard in the KKK, can get a higher proportion of the black vote in his primary in Louisana than donald trump gets in the national election (trump is behind clinton in potential black voters at the moment but a small sum of 99%-1%) then donald has a huge problem...... " so many wrong opinions | |||
"Are we seeing the beginning of the end for Donald Trump? His comments about Mexicans, Muslims, women, disabled people etc seemed not to hurt him at all, calling Hilary "the Devil" and calling for Russia to hack government emails to find dirt on her didn't cause him to miss a beat. But has attacking the mother of a dead soldier been one step too far? A Republican congressman has stated that he will be voting for Hilary, and its fairly well known that most of the party establishment hate him, so can he win without their support? looks like you were wrong "Wrong for asking a questuon? | |||
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"in any other year a republican candidate should have walked it against clinton.... but clinton is up 10 against trump in most polls.... trump can't help putting his foot in his mouth, to the point where i think he is addicted to the taste of leather shoes!!! its got to the point where he isn't endorsing senior members of his own party... and i think a case could be made to check his mental wellbeing... I really think trump doesn't want to win.... i think he wants to lose close enough where he can claim the election is rigged.... Wrong lol, " is your life that empty that you feel the need to trawl the forums to be able to say 'wrong' and have a laugh..? a bit sad from someone who claims to have so much to do and be so fulfilled .. hey ho.. | |||
"in any other year a republican candidate should have walked it against clinton.... but clinton is up 10 against trump in most polls.... trump can't help putting his foot in his mouth, to the point where i think he is addicted to the taste of leather shoes!!! its got to the point where he isn't endorsing senior members of his own party... and i think a case could be made to check his mental wellbeing... I really think trump doesn't want to win.... i think he wants to lose close enough where he can claim the election is rigged.... Wrong lol, is your life that empty that you feel the need to trawl the forums to be able to say 'wrong' and have a laugh..? a bit sad from someone who claims to have so much to do and be so fulfilled .. hey ho.. "haha, think I hit a raw nerve there, so in return you throw insults tut tut, wrong time of the month for you perhaps | |||
"in any other year a republican candidate should have walked it against clinton.... but clinton is up 10 against trump in most polls.... trump can't help putting his foot in his mouth, to the point where i think he is addicted to the taste of leather shoes!!! its got to the point where he isn't endorsing senior members of his own party... and i think a case could be made to check his mental wellbeing... I really think trump doesn't want to win.... i think he wants to lose close enough where he can claim the election is rigged.... Wrong lol, is your life that empty that you feel the need to trawl the forums to be able to say 'wrong' and have a laugh..? a bit sad from someone who claims to have so much to do and be so fulfilled .. hey ho..
haha, think I hit a raw nerve there, so in return you throw insults
tut tut, wrong time of the month for you perhaps"not really because guess what there is no issue with accepting as an adult that we get things wrong now and then, for some it's how they learn.. children however struggle with the acceptance of it but they grow out of it.. more of an observation than an insult unless of course your easily offended..
btw i don't have a time of the month being a bloke and all but don't let that stop your casual misogyny as a response.. | |||
"in any other year a republican candidate should have walked it against clinton.... but clinton is up 10 against trump in most polls.... trump can't help putting his foot in his mouth, to the point where i think he is addicted to the taste of leather shoes!!! its got to the point where he isn't endorsing senior members of his own party... and i think a case could be made to check his mental wellbeing... I really think trump doesn't want to win.... i think he wants to lose close enough where he can claim the election is rigged.... Wrong lol, is your life that empty that you feel the need to trawl the forums to be able to say 'wrong' and have a laugh..? a bit sad from someone who claims to have so much to do and be so fulfilled .. hey ho..
haha, think I hit a raw nerve there, so in return you throw insults
tut tut, wrong time of the month for you perhaps
not really because guess what there is no issue with accepting as an adult that we get things wrong now and then, for some it's how they learn..
children however struggle with the acceptance of it but they grow out of it..
more of an observation than an insult unless of course your easily offended..
btw i don't have a time of the month being a bloke and all but don't let that stop your casual misogyny as a response.. "only "now and then" lol girl you need to look back at your comments only "now and then" lol | |||
"Are we seeing the beginning of the end for Donald Trump? His comments about Mexicans, Muslims, women, disabled people etc seemed not to hurt him at all, calling Hilary "the Devil" and calling for Russia to hack government emails to find dirt on her didn't cause him to miss a beat. But has attacking the mother of a dead soldier been one step too far? A Republican congressman has stated that he will be voting for Hilary, and its fairly well known that most of the party establishment hate him, so can he win without their support? looks like you were wrong
Wrong for asking a questuon? "Wrong for asking if he could win with such bigotted opinions. Unfortunately the answer was yes he did win. His comments seemed to fall on deaf ears. He continues to offend people and yet he still walks on this earth. Usually playing a round of golf while everyone runs the country. | |||
"in any other year a republican candidate should have walked it against clinton.... but clinton is up 10 against trump in most polls.... trump can't help putting his foot in his mouth, to the point where i think he is addicted to the taste of leather shoes!!! its got to the point where he isn't endorsing senior members of his own party... and i think a case could be made to check his mental wellbeing... I really think trump doesn't want to win.... i think he wants to lose close enough where he can claim the election is rigged.... Wrong lol, is your life that empty that you feel the need to trawl the forums to be able to say 'wrong' and have a laugh..? a bit sad from someone who claims to have so much to do and be so fulfilled .. hey ho.. "Well, Trump supporters don't really have much to celebrate, so they've fallen back on "old glories". | |||
"in any other year a republican candidate should have walked it against clinton.... but clinton is up 10 against trump in most polls.... trump can't help putting his foot in his mouth, to the point where i think he is addicted to the taste of leather shoes!!! its got to the point where he isn't endorsing senior members of his own party... and i think a case could be made to check his mental wellbeing... I really think trump doesn't want to win.... i think he wants to lose close enough where he can claim the election is rigged.... Wrong lol, is your life that empty that you feel the need to trawl the forums to be able to say 'wrong' and have a laugh..? a bit sad from someone who claims to have so much to do and be so fulfilled .. hey ho..
haha, think I hit a raw nerve there, so in return you throw insults
tut tut, wrong time of the month for you perhaps
not really because guess what there is no issue with accepting as an adult that we get things wrong now and then, for some it's how they learn..
children however struggle with the acceptance of it but they grow out of it..
more of an observation than an insult unless of course your easily offended..
btw i don't have a time of the month being a bloke and all but don't let that stop your casual misogyny as a response..
only "now and then"
lol
girl you need to look back at your comments
only "now and then"
lol"Why are you so rude and abonxious to other posters you seem like a bully to me | |||
" Why are you so rude and abonxious to other posters you seem like a bully to me " Green arrow is your friend. Very much a pattern | |||
" Why are you so rude and abonxious to other posters you seem like a bully to me Green arrow is your friend. Very much a pattern" yeh... he has been here before under a different name but he swears he hasn't.... honest guv!!! | |||
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"I sugguest we all report him don’t need bullies on here " actually i don't..... everyone is entitled to their opinions..... for example, I'd prefer that people can see how petty for example it is to bring up something from 18 months ago to score points.....
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"I sugguest we all report him don’t need bullies on here actually i don't..... everyone is entitled to their opinions..... for example, I'd prefer that people can see how petty for example it is to bring up something from 18 months ago to score points.....
Oh well we’re all different
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"in any other year a republican candidate should have walked it against clinton.... but clinton is up 10 against trump in most polls.... trump can't help putting his foot in his mouth, to the point where i think he is addicted to the taste of leather shoes!!! its got to the point where he isn't endorsing senior members of his own party... and i think a case could be made to check his mental wellbeing... I really think trump doesn't want to win.... i think he wants to lose close enough where he can claim the election is rigged.... Wrong lol, is your life that empty that you feel the need to trawl the forums to be able to say 'wrong' and have a laugh..? a bit sad from someone who claims to have so much to do and be so fulfilled .. hey ho..
haha, think I hit a raw nerve there, so in return you throw insults
tut tut, wrong time of the month for you perhaps
not really because guess what there is no issue with accepting as an adult that we get things wrong now and then, for some it's how they learn..
children however struggle with the acceptance of it but they grow out of it..
more of an observation than an insult unless of course your easily offended..
btw i don't have a time of the month being a bloke and all but don't let that stop your casual misogyny as a response..
only "now and then"
lol
girl you need to look back at your comments
only "now and then"
lol
Why are you so rude and abonxious to other posters you seem like a bully to me "More of a troll who thinks blokes have a time of the month
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" Why are you so rude and abonxious to other posters you seem like a bully to me Green arrow is your friend. Very much a pattern yeh... he has been here before under a different name but he swears he hasn't.... honest guv!!! "at least 3 different names in the past couple of years.. Like him who used to be pat in many ways.. | |||
" Why are you so rude and abonxious to other posters you seem like a bully to me Green arrow is your friend. Very much a pattern yeh... he has been here before under a different name but he swears he hasn't.... honest guv!!! "at least 3 different names in the past couple of years.. Like him who used to be pat in many ways..  | |||
"Are we seeing the beginning of the end for Donald Trump? His comments about Mexicans, Muslims, women, disabled people etc seemed not to hurt him at all, calling Hilary "the Devil" and calling for Russia to hack government emails to find dirt on her didn't cause him to miss a beat. But has attacking the mother of a dead soldier been one step too far? A Republican congressman has stated that he will be voting for Hilary, and its fairly well known that most of the party establishment hate him, so can he win without their support? " Hillary clinton looks no better! Bernie sanders would be a better president | |||
