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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

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By *horehouseCouple  over a year ago

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"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?"

No they are still teaching about Jesus . Christianity and other religions in This more enlightened times teaching about all religions can only be a good thing in schools instead of pushing just religion ..

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

No they are still teaching about Jesus . Christianity and other religions in This more enlightened times teaching about all religions can only be a good thing in schools instead of pushing just religion .."

That is good they are still teaching about it. I dont think they do it as much as they did before in sweden and yeah especially how the world is today with religion in general.

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By *horehouseCouple  over a year ago

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"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

No they are still teaching about Jesus . Christianity and other religions in This more enlightened times teaching about all religions can only be a good thing in schools instead of pushing just religion ..That is good they are still teaching about it. I dont think they do it as much as they did before in sweden and yeah especially how the world is today with religion in general."

Going to be honest I'm personally an atheist .as religion has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any one other single cause ..plus in these enlightened times we can see how religion was used to control the uneducated masses over the centuries ..

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford

I dunno about Sweden, but in the UK all schools have to have a christian assembley once a week, whether they are afilliated to a particular chirch or not. Most are church affilited schools though, and certainly have more Christianity taught.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I dunno about Sweden, but in the UK all schools have to have a christian assembley once a week, whether they are afilliated to a particular chirch or not. Most are church affilited schools though, and certainly have more Christianity taught. "
I see. I didn't know that they have to have one of them a week, that is good and yeah depending on what kind of school it is, not sure how it is back in sweden, as I haven't been there for long time. I think it is more when it is near the christmas time.

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By *horehouseCouple  over a year ago

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"I dunno about Sweden, but in the UK all schools have to have a christian assembley once a week, whether they are afilliated to a particular chirch or not. Most are church affilited schools though, and certainly have more Christianity taught. I see. I didn't know that they have to have one of them a week, that is good and yeah depending on what kind of school it is, not sure how it is back in sweden, as I haven't been there for long time. I think it is more when it is near the christmas time."

Why would people wish there children to be preached lies in school ..why not just have all religions explained to them and leave it at that ..

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"I dunno about Sweden, but in the UK all schools have to have a christian assembley once a week, whether they are afilliated to a particular chirch or not. Most are church affilited schools though, and certainly have more Christianity taught. I see. I didn't know that they have to have one of them a week, that is good and yeah depending on what kind of school it is, not sure how it is back in sweden, as I haven't been there for long time. I think it is more when it is near the christmas time.

Why would people wish there children to be preached lies in school ..why not just have all religions explained to them and leave it at that .."

I agree on that count - church and state should be separate. Religion has no place in schools.

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"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

No they are still teaching about Jesus . Christianity and other religions in This more enlightened times teaching about all religions can only be a good thing in schools instead of pushing just religion ..That is good they are still teaching about it. I dont think they do it as much as they did before in sweden and yeah especially how the world is today with religion in general.

Going to be honest I'm personally an atheist .as religion has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any one other single cause ..plus in these enlightened times we can see how religion was used to control the uneducated masses over the centuries .."

Calling yourself enlightened and then making an outrageously inaccurate historical error is double speak of the highest honour.

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By *horehouseCouple  over a year ago

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"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

No they are still teaching about Jesus . Christianity and other religions in This more enlightened times teaching about all religions can only be a good thing in schools instead of pushing just religion ..That is good they are still teaching about it. I dont think they do it as much as they did before in sweden and yeah especially how the world is today with religion in general.

Going to be honest I'm personally an atheist .as religion has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any one other single cause ..plus in these enlightened times we can see how religion was used to control the uneducated masses over the centuries ..

Calling yourself enlightened and then making an outrageously inaccurate historical error is double speak of the highest honour."

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By *horehouseCouple  over a year ago

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"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

No they are still teaching about Jesus . Christianity and other religions in This more enlightened times teaching about all religions can only be a good thing in schools instead of pushing just religion ..That is good they are still teaching about it. I dont think they do it as much as they did before in sweden and yeah especially how the world is today with religion in general.

Going to be honest I'm personally an atheist .as religion has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any one other single cause ..plus in these enlightened times we can see how religion was used to control the uneducated masses over the centuries ..

Calling yourself enlightened and then making an outrageously inaccurate historical error is double speak of the highest honour."

No inaccurate statements there ..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

No they are still teaching about Jesus . Christianity and other religions in This more enlightened times teaching about all religions can only be a good thing in schools instead of pushing just religion ..That is good they are still teaching about it. I dont think they do it as much as they did before in sweden and yeah especially how the world is today with religion in general.

Going to be honest I'm personally an atheist .as religion has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any one other single cause ..plus in these enlightened times we can see how religion was used to control the uneducated masses over the centuries ..

Calling yourself enlightened and then making an outrageously inaccurate historical error is double speak of the highest honour.

No inaccurate statements there .."

Which of America's wars would you consider to be caused by religion?

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By *horehouseCouple  over a year ago

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"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

No they are still teaching about Jesus . Christianity and other religions in This more enlightened times teaching about all religions can only be a good thing in schools instead of pushing just religion ..That is good they are still teaching about it. I dont think they do it as much as they did before in sweden and yeah especially how the world is today with religion in general.

Going to be honest I'm personally an atheist .as religion has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any one other single cause ..plus in these enlightened times we can see how religion was used to control the uneducated masses over the centuries ..

Calling yourself enlightened and then making an outrageously inaccurate historical error is double speak of the highest honour.

No inaccurate statements there ..

Which of America's wars would you consider to be caused by religion? "

Did I mention America ..and the crusades were caused by what some one lost at tiddly winks

http://addictivelists.com/10-biggest-religious-wars-ever-fought/

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

No they are still teaching about Jesus . Christianity and other religions in This more enlightened times teaching about all religions can only be a good thing in schools instead of pushing just religion ..That is good they are still teaching about it. I dont think they do it as much as they did before in sweden and yeah especially how the world is today with religion in general.

Going to be honest I'm personally an atheist .as religion has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any one other single cause ..plus in these enlightened times we can see how religion was used to control the uneducated masses over the centuries ..

Calling yourself enlightened and then making an outrageously inaccurate historical error is double speak of the highest honour.

No inaccurate statements there ..

Which of America's wars would you consider to be caused by religion?

Did I mention America ..and the crusades were caused by what some one lost at tiddly winks

http://addictivelists.com/10-biggest-religious-wars-ever-fought/"

Oh goodie, let's use random Internet sites instead of logic. No thanks.

So what was the cause of America's wars since they've had quite a few and none of them were caused by religion?

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By *horehouseCouple  over a year ago

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"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

No they are still teaching about Jesus . Christianity and other religions in This more enlightened times teaching about all religions can only be a good thing in schools instead of pushing just religion ..That is good they are still teaching about it. I dont think they do it as much as they did before in sweden and yeah especially how the world is today with religion in general.

Going to be honest I'm personally an atheist .as religion has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any one other single cause ..plus in these enlightened times we can see how religion was used to control the uneducated masses over the centuries ..

Calling yourself enlightened and then making an outrageously inaccurate historical error is double speak of the highest honour.

No inaccurate statements there ..

Which of America's wars would you consider to be caused by religion?

Did I mention America ..and the crusades were caused by what some one lost at tiddly winks

http://addictivelists.com/10-biggest-religious-wars-ever-fought/

Oh goodie, let's use random Internet sites instead of logic. No thanks.

So what was the cause of America's wars since they've had quite a few and none of them were caused by religion? "

The recent war on terror ..heres a few more random conflicts ..

"The fighting that has plagued Palestine (Jews vs. Muslims), the Balkans (Orthodox Serbians vs. Catholic Croatians; Orthodox Serbians vs. Bosnian and Albanian Muslims), Northern Ireland (Protestants vs. Catholics), Kashmir (Muslims vs. Hindus), Sudan (Muslims vs. Christians and animists), Nigeria (Muslims vs. Christians), Ethiopia and Eritrea (Muslims vs. Christians), Ivory Coast (Muslims vs. Christians), Sri Lanka (Sinhalese Buddhists vs. Tamil Hindus), Philippines (Muslims vs. Christians), Iran and Iraq (Shiite vs. Sunni Muslims), and the Caucasus (Orthodox Russians vs. Chechen Muslims; Muslim Azerbaijanis vs. Catholic and Orthodox Armenians) are merely a few, recent cases in point." Harris, Sam. 2006. Letter to a Christian Nation. New York: Knopf,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

No they are still teaching about Jesus . Christianity and other religions in This more enlightened times teaching about all religions can only be a good thing in schools instead of pushing just religion ..That is good they are still teaching about it. I dont think they do it as much as they did before in sweden and yeah especially how the world is today with religion in general.

Going to be honest I'm personally an atheist .as religion has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any one other single cause ..plus in these enlightened times we can see how religion was used to control the uneducated masses over the centuries ..

Calling yourself enlightened and then making an outrageously inaccurate historical error is double speak of the highest honour.

No inaccurate statements there ..

Which of America's wars would you consider to be caused by religion?

Did I mention America ..and the crusades were caused by what some one lost at tiddly winks

http://addictivelists.com/10-biggest-religious-wars-ever-fought/

Oh goodie, let's use random Internet sites instead of logic. No thanks.

So what was the cause of America's wars since they've had quite a few and none of them were caused by religion?

The recent war on terror ..heres a few more random conflicts ..

"The fighting that has plagued Palestine (Jews vs. Muslims), the Balkans (Orthodox Serbians vs. Catholic Croatians; Orthodox Serbians vs. Bosnian and Albanian Muslims), Northern Ireland (Protestants vs. Catholics), Kashmir (Muslims vs. Hindus), Sudan (Muslims vs. Christians and animists), Nigeria (Muslims vs. Christians), Ethiopia and Eritrea (Muslims vs. Christians), Ivory Coast (Muslims vs. Christians), Sri Lanka (Sinhalese Buddhists vs. Tamil Hindus), Philippines (Muslims vs. Christians), Iran and Iraq (Shiite vs. Sunni Muslims), and the Caucasus (Orthodox Russians vs. Chechen Muslims; Muslim Azerbaijanis vs. Catholic and Orthodox Armenians) are merely a few, recent cases in point." Harris, Sam. 2006. Letter to a Christian Nation. New York: Knopf, "

Errr didn't see the answer to my question in there but anyway. So since you say "religion has caused more deaths..." here are the biggest events that caused mass deaths, again perhaps you could point out the religious ones;

- world war one

- world war two

- the (athiest) Soviet union concentration camps

- the (athiest) Mao's famine in China

- the Black Death

- the slave trade

Try and answer the question this time

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By *horehouseCouple  over a year ago

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"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

No they are still teaching about Jesus . Christianity and other religions in This more enlightened times teaching about all religions can only be a good thing in schools instead of pushing just religion ..That is good they are still teaching about it. I dont think they do it as much as they did before in sweden and yeah especially how the world is today with religion in general.

Going to be honest I'm personally an atheist .as religion has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any one other single cause ..plus in these enlightened times we can see how religion was used to control the uneducated masses over the centuries ..

Calling yourself enlightened and then making an outrageously inaccurate historical error is double speak of the highest honour.

No inaccurate statements there ..

Which of America's wars would you consider to be caused by religion?

Did I mention America ..and the crusades were caused by what some one lost at tiddly winks

http://addictivelists.com/10-biggest-religious-wars-ever-fought/

Oh goodie, let's use random Internet sites instead of logic. No thanks.

So what was the cause of America's wars since they've had quite a few and none of them were caused by religion?

The recent war on terror ..heres a few more random conflicts ..

"The fighting that has plagued Palestine (Jews vs. Muslims), the Balkans (Orthodox Serbians vs. Catholic Croatians; Orthodox Serbians vs. Bosnian and Albanian Muslims), Northern Ireland (Protestants vs. Catholics), Kashmir (Muslims vs. Hindus), Sudan (Muslims vs. Christians and animists), Nigeria (Muslims vs. Christians), Ethiopia and Eritrea (Muslims vs. Christians), Ivory Coast (Muslims vs. Christians), Sri Lanka (Sinhalese Buddhists vs. Tamil Hindus), Philippines (Muslims vs. Christians), Iran and Iraq (Shiite vs. Sunni Muslims), and the Caucasus (Orthodox Russians vs. Chechen Muslims; Muslim Azerbaijanis vs. Catholic and Orthodox Armenians) are merely a few, recent cases in point." Harris, Sam. 2006. Letter to a Christian Nation. New York: Knopf,

Errr didn't see the answer to my question in there but anyway. So since you say "religion has caused more deaths..." here are the biggest events that caused mass deaths, again perhaps you could point out the religious ones;

- world war one

- world war two

- the (athiest) Soviet union concentration camps

- the (athiest) Mao's famine in China

- the Black Death

- the slave trade

Try and answer the question this time"

the recent and on going war on terror to winch america is part of is attributed to religion

try reading the answer in future as the war on terror was in my previous post and if you read the post i said any oyher single cuuse .if you dont understand the post why dud you reply

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?"

yes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

No they are still teaching about Jesus . Christianity and other religions in This more enlightened times teaching about all religions can only be a good thing in schools instead of pushing just religion ..That is good they are still teaching about it. I dont think they do it as much as they did before in sweden and yeah especially how the world is today with religion in general.

Going to be honest I'm personally an atheist .as religion has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any one other single cause ..plus in these enlightened times we can see how religion was used to control the uneducated masses over the centuries ..

Calling yourself enlightened and then making an outrageously inaccurate historical error is double speak of the highest honour.

No inaccurate statements there ..

Which of America's wars would you consider to be caused by religion?

Did I mention America ..and the crusades were caused by what some one lost at tiddly winks

http://addictivelists.com/10-biggest-religious-wars-ever-fought/

Oh goodie, let's use random Internet sites instead of logic. No thanks.

So what was the cause of America's wars since they've had quite a few and none of them were caused by religion?

The recent war on terror ..heres a few more random conflicts ..

"The fighting that has plagued Palestine (Jews vs. Muslims), the Balkans (Orthodox Serbians vs. Catholic Croatians; Orthodox Serbians vs. Bosnian and Albanian Muslims), Northern Ireland (Protestants vs. Catholics), Kashmir (Muslims vs. Hindus), Sudan (Muslims vs. Christians and animists), Nigeria (Muslims vs. Christians), Ethiopia and Eritrea (Muslims vs. Christians), Ivory Coast (Muslims vs. Christians), Sri Lanka (Sinhalese Buddhists vs. Tamil Hindus), Philippines (Muslims vs. Christians), Iran and Iraq (Shiite vs. Sunni Muslims), and the Caucasus (Orthodox Russians vs. Chechen Muslims; Muslim Azerbaijanis vs. Catholic and Orthodox Armenians) are merely a few, recent cases in point." Harris, Sam. 2006. Letter to a Christian Nation. New York: Knopf,

Errr didn't see the answer to my question in there but anyway. So since you say "religion has caused more deaths..." here are the biggest events that caused mass deaths, again perhaps you could point out the religious ones;

- world war one

- world war two

- the (athiest) Soviet union concentration camps

- the (athiest) Mao's famine in China

- the Black Death

- the slave trade

Try and answer the question this time

the recent and on going war on terror to winch america is part of is attributed to religion

try reading the answer in future as the war on terror was in my previous post and if you read the post i said any oyher single cuuse .if you dont understand the post why dud you reply "

Well that proves my point about how inaccurate your statement is so that's done. Obviously you won't agree but the holes in your arguement are bigger than the plot holes in game of thrones season 6.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford

The fact that religon has been resposible for quite a lot of death (although it appears not to rank in the top 5 according to some... )

I feel it has no place inschools because it is demonstrably rubbish and utterly evidence free. That alone, should be enough for any marginally sane person to eschew it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that religon has been resposible for quite a lot of death (although it appears not to rank in the top 5 according to some... )

I feel it has no place inschools because it is demonstrably rubbish and utterly evidence free. That alone, should be enough for any marginally sane person to eschew it. "

Like socialism then.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"The fact that religon has been resposible for quite a lot of death (although it appears not to rank in the top 5 according to some... )

I feel it has no place inschools because it is demonstrably rubbish and utterly evidence free. That alone, should be enough for any marginally sane person to eschew it.

Like socialism then. "

Ooooo, hark at you!

Is the market truth, then?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that religon has been resposible for quite a lot of death (although it appears not to rank in the top 5 according to some... )

I feel it has no place inschools because it is demonstrably rubbish and utterly evidence free. That alone, should be enough for any marginally sane person to eschew it.

Like socialism then.

Ooooo, hark at you!

Is the market truth, then? "

Capitalism and democracy, the worst systems except all the other ones that have been tried.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"The fact that religon has been resposible for quite a lot of death (although it appears not to rank in the top 5 according to some... )

I feel it has no place inschools because it is demonstrably rubbish and utterly evidence free. That alone, should be enough for any marginally sane person to eschew it.

Like socialism then.

Ooooo, hark at you!

Is the market truth, then?

Capitalism and democracy, the worst systems except all the other ones that have been tried. "

People seemed happy under feudalism...

And I'm sure thats utter bollocks, but it's subjective and therefore impossible to argue with so kudos.

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By *horehouseCouple  over a year ago

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"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

No they are still teaching about Jesus . Christianity and other religions in This more enlightened times teaching about all religions can only be a good thing in schools instead of pushing just religion ..That is good they are still teaching about it. I dont think they do it as much as they did before in sweden and yeah especially how the world is today with religion in general.

Going to be honest I'm personally an atheist .as religion has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any one other single cause ..plus in these enlightened times we can see how religion was used to control the uneducated masses over the centuries ..

Calling yourself enlightened and then making an outrageously inaccurate historical error is double speak of the highest honour.

No inaccurate statements there ..

Which of America's wars would you consider to be caused by religion?

Did I mention America ..and the crusades were caused by what some one lost at tiddly winks

http://addictivelists.com/10-biggest-religious-wars-ever-fought/

Oh goodie, let's use random Internet sites instead of logic. No thanks.

So what was the cause of America's wars since they've had quite a few and none of them were caused by religion?

The recent war on terror ..heres a few more random conflicts ..

"The fighting that has plagued Palestine (Jews vs. Muslims), the Balkans (Orthodox Serbians vs. Catholic Croatians; Orthodox Serbians vs. Bosnian and Albanian Muslims), Northern Ireland (Protestants vs. Catholics), Kashmir (Muslims vs. Hindus), Sudan (Muslims vs. Christians and animists), Nigeria (Muslims vs. Christians), Ethiopia and Eritrea (Muslims vs. Christians), Ivory Coast (Muslims vs. Christians), Sri Lanka (Sinhalese Buddhists vs. Tamil Hindus), Philippines (Muslims vs. Christians), Iran and Iraq (Shiite vs. Sunni Muslims), and the Caucasus (Orthodox Russians vs. Chechen Muslims; Muslim Azerbaijanis vs. Catholic and Orthodox Armenians) are merely a few, recent cases in point." Harris, Sam. 2006. Letter to a Christian Nation. New York: Knopf,

Errr didn't see the answer to my question in there but anyway. So since you say "religion has caused more deaths..." here are the biggest events that caused mass deaths, again perhaps you could point out the religious ones;

- world war one

- world war two

- the (athiest) Soviet union concentration camps

- the (athiest) Mao's famine in China

- the Black Death

- the slave trade

Try and answer the question this time

the recent and on going war on terror to winch america is part of is attributed to religion

try reading the answer in future as the war on terror was in my previous post and if you read the post i said any oyher single cuuse .if you dont understand the post why dud you reply

Well that proves my point about how inaccurate your statement is so that's done. Obviously you won't agree but the holes in your arguement are bigger than the plot holes in game of thrones season 6. "

so the black death has killed more people than religious conflicts have over the millennia really are you for real clearly shows the lack of accuracy in your post you have more holes in you reply than a tetly tea bag

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that religon has been resposible for quite a lot of death (although it appears not to rank in the top 5 according to some... )

I feel it has no place inschools because it is demonstrably rubbish and utterly evidence free. That alone, should be enough for any marginally sane person to eschew it.

Like socialism then.

Ooooo, hark at you!

Is the market truth, then?

Capitalism and democracy, the worst systems except all the other ones that have been tried.

People seemed happy under feudalism...

And I'm sure thats utter bollocks, but it's subjective and therefore impossible to argue with so kudos. "

You could objectively ponder why people died trying to cross the Berlin Wall from East to West, while the West Berliners were free to go east if they wanted to - just hardly anyone did

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"The fact that religon has been resposible for quite a lot of death (although it appears not to rank in the top 5 according to some... )

I feel it has no place inschools because it is demonstrably rubbish and utterly evidence free. That alone, should be enough for any marginally sane person to eschew it.

Like socialism then.

Ooooo, hark at you!

Is the market truth, then?

Capitalism and democracy, the worst systems except all the other ones that have been tried.

People seemed happy under feudalism...

And I'm sure thats utter bollocks, but it's subjective and therefore impossible to argue with so kudos.

You could objectively ponder why people died trying to cross the Berlin Wall from East to West, while the West Berliners were free to go east if they wanted to - just hardly anyone did"

Righto. I'm sure you had a point, somewhere. Something tenuous about a soviet command economy being less preferable to people at the time than european free-market capitalism. Of course, you can only compare regimes that exist concurrently using that analogy.

I suppose you could turn it on it's head and say that a tiny minority chose to leave the Soviet bloc, and you could also mention that the communist party is still quite a serious affair in Russia today, but, of course you might then assume tat I'm somehow pro-soviet, because you can't see how someone might be socialist and not a totalitarian...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that religon has been resposible for quite a lot of death (although it appears not to rank in the top 5 according to some... )

I feel it has no place inschools because it is demonstrably rubbish and utterly evidence free. That alone, should be enough for any marginally sane person to eschew it.

Like socialism then.

Ooooo, hark at you!

Is the market truth, then?

Capitalism and democracy, the worst systems except all the other ones that have been tried.

People seemed happy under feudalism...

And I'm sure thats utter bollocks, but it's subjective and therefore impossible to argue with so kudos.

You could objectively ponder why people died trying to cross the Berlin Wall from East to West, while the West Berliners were free to go east if they wanted to - just hardly anyone did

Righto. I'm sure you had a point, somewhere. Something tenuous about a soviet command economy being less preferable to people at the time than european free-market capitalism. Of course, you can only compare regimes that exist concurrently using that analogy.

I suppose you could turn it on it's head and say that a tiny minority chose to leave the Soviet bloc, and you could also mention that the communist party is still quite a serious affair in Russia today, but, of course you might then assume tat I'm somehow pro-soviet, because you can't see how someone might be socialist and not a totalitarian...

"

Ah so you want me to believe someone can be socialist but not totalitarian but you won't accept someone can be religious but not stupid?

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"The fact that religon has been resposible for quite a lot of death (although it appears not to rank in the top 5 according to some... )

I feel it has no place inschools because it is demonstrably rubbish and utterly evidence free. That alone, should be enough for any marginally sane person to eschew it.

Like socialism then.

Ooooo, hark at you!

Is the market truth, then?

Capitalism and democracy, the worst systems except all the other ones that have been tried.

People seemed happy under feudalism...

And I'm sure thats utter bollocks, but it's subjective and therefore impossible to argue with so kudos.

You could objectively ponder why people died trying to cross the Berlin Wall from East to West, while the West Berliners were free to go east if they wanted to - just hardly anyone did

Righto. I'm sure you had a point, somewhere. Something tenuous about a soviet command economy being less preferable to people at the time than european free-market capitalism. Of course, you can only compare regimes that exist concurrently using that analogy.

I suppose you could turn it on it's head and say that a tiny minority chose to leave the Soviet bloc, and you could also mention that the communist party is still quite a serious affair in Russia today, but, of course you might then assume tat I'm somehow pro-soviet, because you can't see how someone might be socialist and not a totalitarian...

Ah so you want me to believe someone can be socialist but not totalitarian but you won't accept someone can be religious but not stupid?"

Yep. One requires that you suspend disbelief. The other doesn't.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Who's this Jesus fellow? Religion is shit and should not be in public schools. They brainwash you with fictional stories in all religions.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I dunno about Sweden, but in the UK all schools have to have a christian assembley once a week, whether they are afilliated to a particular chirch or not. Most are church affilited schools though, and certainly have more Christianity taught. "
.

You ain't gone to school in a long long time have yer!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who's this Jesus fellow? Religion is shit and should not be in public schools. They brainwash you with fictional stories in all religions."
.

Congratulations your the new school minister

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that religon has been resposible for quite a lot of death (although it appears not to rank in the top 5 according to some... )

I feel it has no place inschools because it is demonstrably rubbish and utterly evidence free. That alone, should be enough for any marginally sane person to eschew it.

Like socialism then.

Ooooo, hark at you!

Is the market truth, then?

Capitalism and democracy, the worst systems except all the other ones that have been tried.

People seemed happy under feudalism...

And I'm sure thats utter bollocks, but it's subjective and therefore impossible to argue with so kudos.

You could objectively ponder why people died trying to cross the Berlin Wall from East to West, while the West Berliners were free to go east if they wanted to - just hardly anyone did

Righto. I'm sure you had a point, somewhere. Something tenuous about a soviet command economy being less preferable to people at the time than european free-market capitalism. Of course, you can only compare regimes that exist concurrently using that analogy.

I suppose you could turn it on it's head and say that a tiny minority chose to leave the Soviet bloc, and you could also mention that the communist party is still quite a serious affair in Russia today, but, of course you might then assume tat I'm somehow pro-soviet, because you can't see how someone might be socialist and not a totalitarian...

Ah so you want me to believe someone can be socialist but not totalitarian but you won't accept someone can be religious but not stupid?

Yep. One requires that you suspend disbelief. The other doesn't. "

Indeed it does. We just disagree about which one.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who's this Jesus fellow? Religion is shit and should not be in public schools. They brainwash you with fictional stories in all religions..

Congratulations your the new school minister "

That wont work, i am not into men or children.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"I dunno about Sweden, but in the UK all schools have to have a christian assembley once a week, whether they are afilliated to a particular chirch or not. Most are church affilited schools though, and certainly have more Christianity taught. .

You ain't gone to school in a long long time have yer!"

I have a child in school and a parent who is a recently retired primary head.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"The fact that religon has been resposible for quite a lot of death (although it appears not to rank in the top 5 according to some... )

I feel it has no place inschools because it is demonstrably rubbish and utterly evidence free. That alone, should be enough for any marginally sane person to eschew it.

Like socialism then.

Ooooo, hark at you!

Is the market truth, then?

Capitalism and democracy, the worst systems except all the other ones that have been tried.

People seemed happy under feudalism...

And I'm sure thats utter bollocks, but it's subjective and therefore impossible to argue with so kudos.

You could objectively ponder why people died trying to cross the Berlin Wall from East to West, while the West Berliners were free to go east if they wanted to - just hardly anyone did

Righto. I'm sure you had a point, somewhere. Something tenuous about a soviet command economy being less preferable to people at the time than european free-market capitalism. Of course, you can only compare regimes that exist concurrently using that analogy.

I suppose you could turn it on it's head and say that a tiny minority chose to leave the Soviet bloc, and you could also mention that the communist party is still quite a serious affair in Russia today, but, of course you might then assume tat I'm somehow pro-soviet, because you can't see how someone might be socialist and not a totalitarian...

Ah so you want me to believe someone can be socialist but not totalitarian but you won't accept someone can be religious but not stupid?

Yep. One requires that you suspend disbelief. The other doesn't.

Indeed it does. We just disagree about which one. "

Ah, so no suspension of disbelief requited for a vengeful creator, but lots for a system that isn't capitalism......I see.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Going to be honest I'm personally an atheist .as religion has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any one other single cause ..plus in these enlightened times we can see how religion was used to control the uneducated masses over the centuries .."

I'm sure when you are on your death bed you will be praying to god

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The fact that religon has been resposible for quite a lot of death (although it appears not to rank in the top 5 according to some... )

I feel it has no place inschools because it is demonstrably rubbish and utterly evidence free. That alone, should be enough for any marginally sane person to eschew it.

Like socialism then.

Ooooo, hark at you!

Is the market truth, then?

Capitalism and democracy, the worst systems except all the other ones that have been tried.

People seemed happy under feudalism...

And I'm sure thats utter bollocks, but it's subjective and therefore impossible to argue with so kudos.

You could objectively ponder why people died trying to cross the Berlin Wall from East to West, while the West Berliners were free to go east if they wanted to - just hardly anyone did

Righto. I'm sure you had a point, somewhere. Something tenuous about a soviet command economy being less preferable to people at the time than european free-market capitalism. Of course, you can only compare regimes that exist concurrently using that analogy.

I suppose you could turn it on it's head and say that a tiny minority chose to leave the Soviet bloc, and you could also mention that the communist party is still quite a serious affair in Russia today, but, of course you might then assume tat I'm somehow pro-soviet, because you can't see how someone might be socialist and not a totalitarian...

Ah so you want me to believe someone can be socialist but not totalitarian but you won't accept someone can be religious but not stupid?

Yep. One requires that you suspend disbelief. The other doesn't.

Indeed it does. We just disagree about which one.

Ah, so no suspension of disbelief requited for a vengeful creator, but lots for a system that isn't capitalism......I see. "

You don't need to suspend your disbelief to imagine another system, you can just go to Cuba. You need to suspend your disbelief to imagine it working better than capitalism.

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By *horehouseCouple  over a year ago

dissatisfied


"

Going to be honest I'm personally an atheist .as religion has been the cause of more wars and deaths than any one other single cause ..plus in these enlightened times we can see how religion was used to control the uneducated masses over the centuries ..

I'm sure when you are on your death bed you will be praying to god"

Wrong as usual

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I dunno about Sweden, but in the UK all schools have to have a christian assembley once a week, whether they are afilliated to a particular chirch or not. Most are church affilited schools though, and certainly have more Christianity taught. .

You ain't gone to school in a long long time have yer!

I have a child in school and a parent who is a recently retired primary head. "

.

Well I can only speak about the five schools my kids have been to in different parts of the country.

I've honestly not seen a Christian assembly in years, in fact all the schools I've used have taught multi faith religious policies.

Personally I don't think schools are places for religion except to be taught as a subject

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By *horehouseCouple  over a year ago

dissatisfied


"I dunno about Sweden, but in the UK all schools have to have a christian assembley once a week, whether they are afilliated to a particular chirch or not. Most are church affilited schools though, and certainly have more Christianity taught. .

You ain't gone to school in a long long time have yer!

I have a child in school and a parent who is a recently retired primary head. .

Well I can only speak about the five schools my kids have been to in different parts of the country.

I've honestly not seen a Christian assembly in years, in fact all the schools I've used have taught multi faith religious policies.

Personally I don't think schools are places for religion except to be taught as a subject"

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"I dunno about Sweden, but in the UK all schools have to have a christian assembley once a week, whether they are afilliated to a particular chirch or not. Most are church affilited schools though, and certainly have more Christianity taught. .

You ain't gone to school in a long long time have yer!

I have a child in school and a parent who is a recently retired primary head. .

Well I can only speak about the five schools my kids have been to in different parts of the country.

I've honestly not seen a Christian assembly in years, in fact all the schools I've used have taught multi faith religious policies.

Personally I don't think schools are places for religion except to be taught as a subject"

Even if they aren't affiliated to a diocese, they will have an assembly once a week. That assembly must be "broadly christian". Ask in a school. Obviously it's more overt at c of each controlled/Catholic schools...

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford

Nb, this is different from the RE syllabus, taught in the classroom.

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By *rinking-in-laCouple  over a year ago

Bristol


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?"

Not necessarily the latter. But multiculturalism certainly, even amongst the favoured white British there is much greater breadth of belief.

We no longer get religion told to us like it is an unalienable truth. We no longer get it forced on us from a young age.

You are right, things are not like they used to be, and just with rationing, slavery, lack of the vote for all but the rich, that is a VERY good thing.

The less religion we have giving people vested interests, reasons to discriminate etc. the better.

We don't need the threat of eternal damnation to make us behave like kind good people, we don't need to be told that sex is evil and wrong, we don't need to believe that a man born in Bethlehem, brought up in the Middle East and whatnot was a white guy with a beard just to make us think that whites are superior.

Also Christianity is not about Jesus. It is about John. John used Jesus as a handy celebrity to build his already established church on and when Jesus died John continued apace. So it is not even Jesus' teachings we are learning. It is the teaching of a manipulative liar who used others to conform to his church.

We don't need religion any more.

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral

This country is losing its morality,religion is important because of the values it teaches.

As a society we need more moral guidence

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By *horehouseCouple  over a year ago

dissatisfied


"This country is losing its morality,religion is important because of the values it teaches.

As a society we need more moral guidence"

Moral guidance yes bit not in the form of religion ...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This country is losing its morality,religion is important because of the values it teaches.

As a society we need more moral guidence"

.

Says the man dressed in women's clothes!!.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who's this Jesus fellow? Religion is shit and should not be in public schools. They brainwash you with fictional stories in all religions."

See I can't

understand why things are getting so heated when firstly religion has (especially Judaism - now Christianity/Catholism) has been severely altered to suit certain people of the world.

Secondly Jesus certainly isn't who you think he is - the letter J is the newest in the alphabet and if you actually define lucifer you find that it means bringer of light (which seems kinda special to me) as opposed to trying to adhere to ancient and impossible

commands.

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By *horehouseCouple  over a year ago

dissatisfied


"This country is losing its morality,religion is important because of the values it teaches.

As a society we need more moral guidence.

Says the man dressed in women's clothes!!.

"

Why turn it personal again with insults ? ..back? to the point didn't this Jesus character wear dress like clothes ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This country is losing its morality,religion is important because of the values it teaches.

As a society we need more moral guidence.

Says the man dressed in women's clothes!!.

Why turn it personal again with insults ? ..back? to the point didn't this Jesus character wear dress like clothes ?"

.

You clearly missed the point?.

Religion and the church really haven't done jack shit for morality.... Especially for guys who like to wear women's clothes!

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By *horehouseCouple  over a year ago

dissatisfied


"This country is losing its morality,religion is important because of the values it teaches.

As a society we need more moral guidence.

Says the man dressed in women's clothes!!.

Why turn it personal again with insults ? ..back? to the point didn't this Jesus character wear dress like clothes ?.

You clearly missed the point?.

Religion and the church really haven't done jack shit for morality.... Especially for guys who like to wear women's clothes!"

I clearly got the point what's your problem with guys wearing what they like ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This country is losing its morality,religion is important because of the values it teaches.

As a society we need more moral guidence.

Says the man dressed in women's clothes!!.

Why turn it personal again with insults ? ..back? to the point didn't this Jesus character wear dress like clothes ?.

You clearly missed the point?.

Religion and the church really haven't done jack shit for morality.... Especially for guys who like to wear women's clothes!

I clearly got the point what's your problem with guys wearing what they like ?"

.

Your still not getting the point are you?.

I don't have a problem with guys wearing ladies clothes, I don't profess morality through religious grounds of high powers... Mortality is subjective to human evolutionary progress, unlike the musings of a deity

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

Our government gave away $millions is UK taxpayer purchased schools to private academies, many faith schools etc.

Like many I'd like religion only included in school as part of cultural education.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?"

Nonsense.

My daughter gets a lot of Christianity thrown at her in the little primary school she's in.

Came home saying things like, "God knows everything you do," or "God sees every thing you do."

I've been explaining that, if you want to believe in something as ridiculous as supernatural entities, there are plenty of other belief systems out there with far more interesting gods and goddesses...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

Nonsense.

My daughter gets a lot of Christianity thrown at her in the little primary school she's in.

Came home saying things like, "God knows everything you do," or "God sees every thing you do."

I've been explaining that, if you want to believe in something as ridiculous as supernatural entities, there are plenty of other belief systems out there with far more interesting gods and goddesses... "

I know what you mean. I get angry when our little one comes home from school and says "communism is a nice idea in theory, it just doesn't work in practice".

No its not a nice idea, it's about entitlement at birth and the forced servitude of others to meet those entitlements. How the flip is that a nice idea!!

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

Nonsense.

My daughter gets a lot of Christianity thrown at her in the little primary school she's in.

Came home saying things like, "God knows everything you do," or "God sees every thing you do."

I've been explaining that, if you want to believe in something as ridiculous as supernatural entities, there are plenty of other belief systems out there with far more interesting gods and goddesses...

I know what you mean. I get angry when our little one comes home from school and says "communism is a nice idea in theory, it just doesn't work in practice".

No its not a nice idea, it's about entitlement at birth and the forced servitude of others to meet those entitlements. How the flip is that a nice idea!! "

You misunderstand me.

Communism, as well you know, is not taught in schools. RE is a requirement, which I understand.

But if all they're getting is Judaeo-Christian nonsense, I'm not happy about it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

Nonsense.

My daughter gets a lot of Christianity thrown at her in the little primary school she's in.

Came home saying things like, "God knows everything you do," or "God sees every thing you do."

I've been explaining that, if you want to believe in something as ridiculous as supernatural entities, there are plenty of other belief systems out there with far more interesting gods and goddesses...

I know what you mean. I get angry when our little one comes home from school and says "communism is a nice idea in theory, it just doesn't work in practice".

No its not a nice idea, it's about entitlement at birth and the forced servitude of others to meet those entitlements. How the flip is that a nice idea!!

You misunderstand me.

Communism, as well you know, is not taught in schools. RE is a requirement, which I understand.

But if all they're getting is Judaeo-Christian nonsense, I'm not happy about it. "

If it's a non-religious school then I don't really understand why they'd do banging on about it outside of RE lessons either.

Communism is taught in history and since teachers are more likely to be left wing than right, many add their own commentary above the official syllabus. Which itself is flattering to our WW2 allies.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

Nonsense.

My daughter gets a lot of Christianity thrown at her in the little primary school she's in.

Came home saying things like, "God knows everything you do," or "God sees every thing you do."

I've been explaining that, if you want to believe in something as ridiculous as supernatural entities, there are plenty of other belief systems out there with far more interesting gods and goddesses...

I know what you mean. I get angry when our little one comes home from school and says "communism is a nice idea in theory, it just doesn't work in practice".

No its not a nice idea, it's about entitlement at birth and the forced servitude of others to meet those entitlements. How the flip is that a nice idea!!

You misunderstand me.

Communism, as well you know, is not taught in schools. RE is a requirement, which I understand.

But if all they're getting is Judaeo-Christian nonsense, I'm not happy about it.

If it's a non-religious school then I don't really understand why they'd do banging on about it outside of RE lessons either.

Communism is taught in history and since teachers are more likely to be left wing than right, many add their own commentary above the official syllabus. Which itself is flattering to our WW2 allies. "

On paper it's secular. There's a couple of Muslim kids and some hippies. I wonder what they think...

I was sold GCSE history on the promise of WWII - ended up with social & economic history from 1750.

Still not happy about that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

Nonsense.

My daughter gets a lot of Christianity thrown at her in the little primary school she's in.

Came home saying things like, "God knows everything you do," or "God sees every thing you do."

I've been explaining that, if you want to believe in something as ridiculous as supernatural entities, there are plenty of other belief systems out there with far more interesting gods and goddesses...

I know what you mean. I get angry when our little one comes home from school and says "communism is a nice idea in theory, it just doesn't work in practice".

No its not a nice idea, it's about entitlement at birth and the forced servitude of others to meet those entitlements. How the flip is that a nice idea!!

You misunderstand me.

Communism, as well you know, is not taught in schools. RE is a requirement, which I understand.

But if all they're getting is Judaeo-Christian nonsense, I'm not happy about it.

If it's a non-religious school then I don't really understand why they'd do banging on about it outside of RE lessons either.

Communism is taught in history and since teachers are more likely to be left wing than right, many add their own commentary above the official syllabus. Which itself is flattering to our WW2 allies.

On paper it's secular. There's a couple of Muslim kids and some hippies. I wonder what they think...

I was sold GCSE history on the promise of WWII - ended up with social & economic history from 1750.

Still not happy about that"

Of course there are hippies - you live in Hippy central dome. I bet they hand out at the start of assembly and sing war protest songs instead of hymns

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

In fact, I've mentioned this school before as, last Xmas, the child came home with a leaflet entitled "Radicalism and Extremism" which was about spotting scary people with AK47s and pixilated faces.

I, and the owner of the local kabbaberie brought this up with the headmistress.

And she said to me, "I was in Washington on 9/11. My husband was over the road from the Pentagon working at the British Embassy when the attacks occurred. I know about terrorism."

And I wanted to say, You know about terrorism? Fuck off. Go live in Baghdad, Damascus or Kabul for a year, then come back ad tell me about terrorism.

But no.

I pointed out that the school is like The Village of the Damned and 5, 6 & 7yr olds would be more properly taught about road safety, internet safety or crossing the road with care...

Pissing in the wind with some people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In fact, I've mentioned this school before as, last Xmas, the child came home with a leaflet entitled "Radicalism and Extremism" which was about spotting scary people with AK47s and pixilated faces.

I, and the owner of the local kabbaberie brought this up with the headmistress.

And she said to me, "I was in Washington on 9/11. My husband was over the road from the Pentagon working at the British Embassy when the attacks occurred. I know about terrorism."

And I wanted to say, You know about terrorism? Fuck off. Go live in Baghdad, Damascus or Kabul for a year, then come back ad tell me about terrorism.

But no.

I pointed out that the school is like The Village of the Damned and 5, 6 & 7yr olds would be more properly taught about road safety, internet safety or crossing the road with care...

Pissing in the wind with some people."

Ah yes, I don't miss somerset.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

Nonsense.

My daughter gets a lot of Christianity thrown at her in the little primary school she's in.

Came home saying things like, "God knows everything you do," or "God sees every thing you do."

I've been explaining that, if you want to believe in something as ridiculous as supernatural entities, there are plenty of other belief systems out there with far more interesting gods and goddesses...

I know what you mean. I get angry when our little one comes home from school and says "communism is a nice idea in theory, it just doesn't work in practice".

No its not a nice idea, it's about entitlement at birth and the forced servitude of others to meet those entitlements. How the flip is that a nice idea!!

You misunderstand me.

Communism, as well you know, is not taught in schools. RE is a requirement, which I understand.

But if all they're getting is Judaeo-Christian nonsense, I'm not happy about it.

If it's a non-religious school then I don't really understand why they'd do banging on about it outside of RE lessons either.

Communism is taught in history and since teachers are more likely to be left wing than right, many add their own commentary above the official syllabus. Which itself is flattering to our WW2 allies. "

My A-Level History teacher had been a mamber of the conservative party, although he left during the Thatcher years, because it didn't fit with his idea of a gentler, more paternal conservatism.

I don't think he was particularly unusual.

He was also, for what it's worth, a Marxist historian.

Re: Cuba. This again? Compare Cuba to its analogues (I think the closest is possibly Haiti) and suddenly Castro doesn't seem so bad.

This is not to say that I think state dictatorsips "work", but neither does Capitalsim - look at America and the millions that cannot afford healthcare....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

Nonsense.

My daughter gets a lot of Christianity thrown at her in the little primary school she's in.

Came home saying things like, "God knows everything you do," or "God sees every thing you do."

I've been explaining that, if you want to believe in something as ridiculous as supernatural entities, there are plenty of other belief systems out there with far more interesting gods and goddesses...

I know what you mean. I get angry when our little one comes home from school and says "communism is a nice idea in theory, it just doesn't work in practice".

No its not a nice idea, it's about entitlement at birth and the forced servitude of others to meet those entitlements. How the flip is that a nice idea!!

You misunderstand me.

Communism, as well you know, is not taught in schools. RE is a requirement, which I understand.

But if all they're getting is Judaeo-Christian nonsense, I'm not happy about it.

If it's a non-religious school then I don't really understand why they'd do banging on about it outside of RE lessons either.

Communism is taught in history and since teachers are more likely to be left wing than right, many add their own commentary above the official syllabus. Which itself is flattering to our WW2 allies.

My A-Level History teacher had been a mamber of the conservative party, although he left during the Thatcher years, because it didn't fit with his idea of a gentler, more paternal conservatism.

I don't think he was particularly unusual.

He was also, for what it's worth, a Marxist historian.

Re: Cuba. This again? Compare Cuba to its analogues (I think the closest is possibly Haiti) and suddenly Castro doesn't seem so bad.

This is not to say that I think state dictatorsips "work", but neither does Capitalsim - look at America and the millions that cannot afford healthcare...."

Thanks for the anecdotal evidence and the false dichotomy.

UCLA have done studies on left wing bias in education but last time I posted a link to it I got a forum ban. Conspiracy?

Teachers are one of the most unionised professionals going and I shouldn't really need to explain why trade union members are more likely to vote Labour than conservative.

Yes we all know Americas healthcare system is shit and I acknowledged that the public services in Cuba are good relative to their region (i.e but not by European or asian standards). The US normal ranks between 30 and 45 for healthcare which is pretty shit so there are 29 - 44 other countries with a better model to compare to. Starting with Canada.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Today we was doing a little clear out in my flat as my parents will move to el campello in december as they want to put few things in my flat and we came across old school things I did back in the 90's and we had alot of work about jesus and christmas, we chatted about it and we was surprised that nowadays you dont hear anything about the teaching of jesus in the classrooms, why is that, is it down to multiculturalism and political correctness?

Nonsense.

My daughter gets a lot of Christianity thrown at her in the little primary school she's in.

Came home saying things like, "God knows everything you do," or "God sees every thing you do."

I've been explaining that, if you want to believe in something as ridiculous as supernatural entities, there are plenty of other belief systems out there with far more interesting gods and goddesses...

I know what you mean. I get angry when our little one comes home from school and says "communism is a nice idea in theory, it just doesn't work in practice".

No its not a nice idea, it's about entitlement at birth and the forced servitude of others to meet those entitlements. How the flip is that a nice idea!!

You misunderstand me.

Communism, as well you know, is not taught in schools. RE is a requirement, which I understand.

But if all they're getting is Judaeo-Christian nonsense, I'm not happy about it.

If it's a non-religious school then I don't really understand why they'd do banging on about it outside of RE lessons either.

Communism is taught in history and since teachers are more likely to be left wing than right, many add their own commentary above the official syllabus. Which itself is flattering to our WW2 allies.

My A-Level History teacher had been a mamber of the conservative party, although he left during the Thatcher years, because it didn't fit with his idea of a gentler, more paternal conservatism.

I don't think he was particularly unusual.

He was also, for what it's worth, a Marxist historian.

Re: Cuba. This again? Compare Cuba to its analogues (I think the closest is possibly Haiti) and suddenly Castro doesn't seem so bad.

This is not to say that I think state dictatorsips "work", but neither does Capitalsim - look at America and the millions that cannot afford healthcare....

Thanks for the anecdotal evidence and the false dichotomy.

UCLA have done studies on left wing bias in education but last time I posted a link to it I got a forum ban. Conspiracy?

Teachers are one of the most unionised professionals going and I shouldn't really need to explain why trade union members are more likely to vote Labour than conservative.

Yes we all know Americas healthcare system is shit and I acknowledged that the public services in Cuba are good relative to their region (i.e but not by European or asian standards). The US normal ranks between 30 and 45 for healthcare which is pretty shit so there are 29 - 44 other countries with a better model to compare to. Starting with Canada. "

You think this forum is biased towards the left to the point of censorship?

UCLA? Be intersting to see what their actual definition of "left" is...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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Communism is taught in history and since teachers are more likely to be left wing than right, many add their own commentary above the official syllabus. Which itself is flattering to our WW2 allies.

My A-Level History teacher had been a mamber of the conservative party, although he left during the Thatcher years, because it didn't fit with his idea of a gentler, more paternal conservatism.

I don't think he was particularly unusual.

He was also, for what it's worth, a Marxist historian.

Re: Cuba. This again? Compare Cuba to its analogues (I think the closest is possibly Haiti) and suddenly Castro doesn't seem so bad.

This is not to say that I think state dictatorsips "work", but neither does Capitalsim - look at America and the millions that cannot afford healthcare....

Thanks for the anecdotal evidence and the false dichotomy.

UCLA have done studies on left wing bias in education but last time I posted a link to it I got a forum ban. Conspiracy?

Teachers are one of the most unionised professionals going and I shouldn't really need to explain why trade union members are more likely to vote Labour than conservative.

Yes we all know Americas healthcare system is shit and I acknowledged that the public services in Cuba are good relative to their region (i.e but not by European or asian standards). The US normal ranks between 30 and 45 for healthcare which is pretty shit so there are 29 - 44 other countries with a better model to compare to. Starting with Canada.

You think this forum is biased towards the left to the point of censorship?

UCLA? Be intersting to see what their actual definition of "left" is... "

It's self identification because the UCLA study is based on a survey. Participants are asked to identify as either far left, liberal, middle of the road, conservative or far right.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I suppose if the man himself did a few talks in school's then it might be a bit relevant in the modern world, but I don't think he has done a gig in a few thousand years.

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