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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Another sad day this time Germany and France recently again! When will these attacks on Europe stop and when is civil war starting? There's only going to be so much people take before there's war on the streets of Europe.Sad times #prayformunich  |
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They don't know whose responsible yet, what makes you think it's refugees who are to blame. It's obviously going to IS related but most previous attacks have been by homegrown Muslim extremists, not refugees. |
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"They don't know whose responsible yet, what makes you think it's refugees who are to blame. It's obviously going to IS related but most previous attacks have been by homegrown Muslim extremists, not refugees. "
and where has be there roots came from? Not hitler I guess?  |
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"They don't know whose responsible yet, what makes you think it's refugees who are to blame. It's obviously going to IS related but most previous attacks have been by homegrown Muslim extremists, not refugees. "
Apart from about 100,000 deserving Yazidis, the bulk of the rest of the 'refugees' estimated at over two million have been single muslim male ECONOMIC MIGRANTS posing as refugees...astonishingly allowed in with no background checks by an arrogant, reckless, politically correct Merkel. Either way she has a lot to answer for.
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"They don't know whose responsible yet, what makes you think it's refugees who are to blame. It's obviously going to IS related but most previous attacks have been by homegrown Muslim extremists, not refugees. and where has be there roots came from? Not hitler I guess? "
I'm sorry, I don't speak gibberish. But to answer what I think you're trying to say, the refugee crisis is happening because the people are fleeing their homes to escape the horrors of what is befalling their home countries. They are worlds apart from home grown radicalised Muslim extremists. I'm not saying all refugees are angels but you can't blame the refugee crisis for all these terrorist attacks. But that's just my opinion. |
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"Another sad day this time Germany and France recently again! When will these attacks on Europe stop and when is civil war starting? There's only going to be so much people take before there's war on the streets of Europe.Sad times #prayformunich "
Let who in? |
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"They don't know whose responsible yet, what makes you think it's refugees who are to blame. It's obviously going to IS related but most previous attacks have been by homegrown Muslim extremists, not refugees.
Apart from about 100,000 deserving Yazidis, the bulk of the rest of NItathe 'refugees' estimated at over two million have been single muslim male ECONOMIC MIGRANTS posing as refugees...astonishingly allowed in with no background checks by an arrogant, reckless, politically correct Merkel. Either way she has a lot to answer for.
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Not sure where you are getting your information from... but the majority of Syrian refugees are actually families.
Many of whom have witnessed horrors you couldn't begin to understand.
Having been involved in interviewing some of those the UK took in during the Balkan war... I have far too good an idea of what they will have faced.
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"They don't know whose responsible yet, what makes you think it's refugees who are to blame. It's obviously going to IS related but most previous attacks have been by homegrown Muslim extremists, not refugees.
Apart from about 100,000 deserving Yazidis, the bulk of the rest of NItathe 'refugees' estimated at over two million have been single muslim male ECONOMIC MIGRANTS posing as refugees...astonishingly allowed in with no background checks by an arrogant, reckless, politically correct Merkel. Either way she has a lot to answer for.
Not sure where you are getting your information from... but the majority of Syrian refugees are actually families.
Many of whom have witnessed horrors you couldn't begin to understand.
Having been involved in interviewing some of those the UK took in during the Balkan war... I have far too good an idea of what they will have faced.
Nita"
The Balkan war was twenty years ago!?But as I recall Sweden took some refugees in from the region. The daughter of one of them (refugees) was murdered last year whilst working in a refugee centre by a Somalian posing as a teenage refugee. |
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"They don't know whose responsible yet, what makes you think it's refugees who are to blame. It's obviously going to IS related but most previous attacks have been by homegrown Muslim extremists, not refugees.
Apart from about 100,000 deserving Yazidis, the bulk of the rest of the 'refugees' estimated at over two million have been single muslim male ECONOMIC MIGRANTS posing as refugees...astonishingly allowed in with no background checks by an arrogant, reckless, politically correct Merkel. Either way she has a lot to answer for.
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How come the young men piss off and leave the aged and their parents behind to suffer? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! 
Just too quick to jump to conclusions some folk.  "
Indeed! Even the police have no idea at the moment! Xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!!
Just too quick to jump to conclusions some folk.
Indeed! Even the police have no idea at the moment! Xx"
BBC are reporting that the police have said "no indication of Islamic terror" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The eu should never have been what it is now, they should of kept their borders up, it is the start of the end of the eu, it will collapse eventually, fucking eijits that cotrol the eu as its a gravey train for the boys and girls in the european governments |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"They don't know whose responsible yet, what makes you think it's refugees who are to blame. It's obviously going to IS related but most previous attacks have been by homegrown Muslim extremists, not refugees.
Apart from about 100,000 deserving Yazidis, the bulk of the rest of NItathe 'refugees' estimated at over two million have been single muslim male ECONOMIC MIGRANTS posing as refugees...astonishingly allowed in with no background checks by an arrogant, reckless, politically correct Merkel. Either way she has a lot to answer for.
Not sure where you are getting your information from... but the majority of Syrian refugees are actually families.
Many of whom have witnessed horrors you couldn't begin to understand.
Having been involved in interviewing some of those the UK took in during the Balkan war... I have far too good an idea of what they will have faced.
Nita"
After serving (for a very long time) in the army... there were atrocities in every conflict I witnessed... from NI to the yugoslavian war of independence, then the 9 other civil wars that occurred in the balkan states and everywhere else in the world, seeing someone pushed out of their home by violence and forced to live in penury not knowing what (if any) of their family are alive... is an awful atrocity to witness. Being on the other end of radicalism and sheer hatred is also pretty horrific. It seems to be that these attacks are from people who have originated from that country.... or have been radicalised by cells that exist. I'm afraid praying for this to end won't help...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! "
18 year old Iranian as reported on news latest. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!!
18 year old Iranian as reported on news latest."
18 year old German-Iranian to be precise |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You reap what you sow. Germany and France were quite vocal about how humanitarian they were being when they admitted all those Syrian "refugees" and now this. Whether directly or indirectly, this is surely related? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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There are allot of people who clearly have xenophobic undertones to their character we can sit here and blame migrants for these actions all we want but a little research shows that in nearly every case or terrorism on European soil in te last 100yrs the crime has been commited by a born and bread national of the affected area yes they may be sympathisers but no they are not immigrants and a problem will not be solved by pointing the finger at the wrong people |
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In other news..over 70 civilians killed when the US and its allies 'accidently' targeted and bombed them.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-led-air-strikes-syria-kill-77-civilians-mistaken-isis-fighters-manbij-latest-a7148061.html
But why should that be of any importance at all ? This happens every week! But the media as less likely to give this MASS coverage. |
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"They don't know whose responsible yet, what makes you think it's refugees who are to blame. It's obviously going to IS related but most previous attacks have been by homegrown Muslim extremists, not refugees.
Apart from about 100,000 deserving Yazidis, the bulk of the rest of NItathe 'refugees' estimated at over two million have been single muslim male ECONOMIC MIGRANTS posing as refugees...astonishingly allowed in with no background checks by an arrogant, reckless, politically correct Merkel. Either way she has a lot to answer for.
Not sure where you are getting your information from... but the majority of Syrian refugees are actually families.
Many of whom have witnessed horrors you couldn't begin to understand.
Having been involved in interviewing some of those the UK took in during the Balkan war... I have far too good an idea of what they will have faced.
Nita
After serving (for a very long time) in the army... there were atrocities in every conflict I witnessed... from NI to the yugoslavian war of independence, then the 9 other civil wars that occurred in the balkan states and everywhere else in the world, seeing someone pushed out of their home by violence and forced to live in penury not knowing what (if any) of their family are alive... is an awful atrocity to witness. Being on the other end of radicalism and sheer hatred is also pretty horrific. It seems to be that these attacks are from people who have originated from that country.... or have been radicalised by cells that exist. I'm afraid praying for this to end won't help... "
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-led-air-strikes-syria-kill-77-civilians-mistaken-isis-fighters-manbij-latest-a7148061.html |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In other news..over 70 civilians killed when the US and its allies 'accidently' targeted and bombed them.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-led-air-strikes-syria-kill-77-civilians-mistaken-isis-fighters-manbij-latest-a7148061.html
But why should that be of any importance at all ? This happens every week! But the media as less likely to give this MASS coverage. "
Completely agree people don't gt this side of the argument they believe that what out government does is all in the name of humanity but never ask the question why are we so eager to control the middle east but don't want anything to do with central Africa a place with the same issues and the answer is our government have no business deals to protect in Africa so who cares about the people there
We invade their countries we bomb their children and we force our ideas and cultural beliefs upon their society and then we sit back gobsmacked when the give us the finger and fight back |
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By *ames6ft5Man
over a year ago
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"They don't know whose responsible yet, what makes you think it's refugees who are to blame. It's obviously going to IS related but most previous attacks have been by homegrown Muslim extremists, not refugees.
Apart from about 100,000 deserving Yazidis, the bulk of the rest of the 'refugees' estimated at over two million have been single muslim male ECONOMIC MIGRANTS posing as refugees...astonishingly allowed in with no background checks by an arrogant, reckless, politically correct Merkel. Either way she has a lot to answer for.
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I rarely join news/event or political related posts on here as they generally lead nowhere..... However...
Just check you on this bit "reckless political correctness".
People use "political correctness" as some kind of derogatory term far too easily. Stop and think about what you are saying. You wish for a society led by people with no regard for the sensitivity of others? With no respect for the rights and needs of their fellow man?
Think about what you are really asking for when you seemingly degenerate someone like Merkel like this.
So many years of people digesting sound bites like "political correctness gone mad" in the right leaning tabloid press (and elsewhere) seems to result in people ceasing to think about what words they use really mean.
Thoughts with the families in Munich who have lost loved ones. These times need considered leadership. There are no easy solutions in my mind. Being "politically incorrect" is unlikely to save lives and limit tragedy, despite what some newspaper editors would like to have us think.
The other question I would ask you to consider in your post - why would a "single male economic migrant" be any more likely to shoot people in a shopping centre than any other citizen in Germany? You've immediately drawn a connection between your resentment for a fellow human being trying to make the best for themselves, and enjoy some similar opportunities we have been lucky enough to be born into, to a mad man killing people in a shopping centre (whatever their background or insane motivations).
If humanity is to improve the current situation it probably stands more chance with considered thinking (and, ignoring Michael Gove for a moment, experts) than trotting out populist slogans.
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Sick of hear how sad it is for the refugees why don't they fight for there own country instead of running away ? Because it's easier to run to the land of milk and honey were it's all free. Like all that nations around the world they want independence and when they balls it up they leave it behind and screw up the next place they land . |
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! "
Doubt he would be gutted. He was a muslim anyway but we will find out for sure somewhen. |
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! "
Interesting post…for a number of reasons.
You were half right as it indeed was a nazi i.e. the same kind of nazi who attacked passengers on a train in Germany on Tuesday with an axe and a knife, the same kind of nazi who attacked a mother and her three daughters with knife on a French holiday camp on Monday, and the very same kind of nazi who murdered and maimed over a hundred people last Friday in Nice…an islamo-nazi.
And I guess you came to your conclusion by watching either of BBC 24 or Sky both of which wheeled out ‘experts’ who were desperately trying to link this massacre to the ‘Far Right’ despite the fact that an attack like this has been predicted for years. Indeed the arse-wipe rag called the Daily Mirror is still peddling this PC version this morning despite quoting the words of a German woman who said: “… she heard the gunman say: "Allahu Akbar" - 'God is great' and an Islamic phrase often used by jihadis .”
Lastly your choice of the word “gutted” is very ill-advised, as this extract from a paramedic who attended the scene of the butchery on the train demonstrates. The extract is from the Daily Mail and don’t worry, you won’t find it in the broadsheets as they replaced factual reporting on “terrorism” with PC tripe years ago.
“After hiding in a lavatory on the commuter train, Riaz Khan jumped out, hacking indiscriminately with an axe and a knife at passengers. He maimed four tourists from Hong Kong, leaving two close to death as their skulls and bodies were smashed to pieces.
As Erik, a 25-year-old paramedic and one of the first to arrive at the scene from the medical centre in the nearby town of Ochsenfurt, told me afterwards: ‘When I climbed into the train, I could see blood everywhere. People lay on the floor. They had gaping holes in their heads, their chests, their stomachs. They are the worst injuries I have ever seen.
‘I began tending to one woman and I saved her life.
‘The police kept telling us to be careful because the attacker might have an accomplice — a brother or cousin.’
By then, Khan had fled from the train through the garden of a nearby house and onto a street. There, he spotted a woman walking her dog. Shouting at her: ‘I am going to f*** you, b****,’ he attacked her before running to a nearby river and then threatening police with an axe. Eventually, he was cornered and shot dead…”
A photo of the smiling racist/sexist savage accompanies the article.
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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago
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"The level of thinly veiled prejudice on this thread must be setting some kind of record."
I think a lot of people don't have to search hard to find 'evidence' to support their prejudices  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The level of thinly veiled prejudice on this thread must be setting some kind of record.
I think a lot of people don't have to search hard to find 'evidence' to support their prejudices "
'Confirmation bias' is alive and well |
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Having been involved in interviewing some of those the UK took in during the Balkan war... I have far too good an idea of what they will have faced.
Nita"
I have also spoken to refugees from the Balkan war.
One of them got in trouble with the police. I asked him about it, he said " After what I have seen I am not scared of your police and I don't give a fuck about your laws, there's nothing your country can do to me."
Now he may have been suffering PTSD or he may been one of life's shits, either way he and others like him are living in our communities.
I am not trying to argumentative but show there is a different side to the coin...
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"The level of thinly veiled prejudice on this thread must be setting some kind of record.
I think a lot of people don't have to search hard to find 'evidence' to support their prejudices "
Good old confirmation bias. |
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"Pretty sure that German police have just said the killer had nowt to do with IS/ISIS/ISIL/whatever we're calling them this week.
But speculate away..."
They were saying that last night, but people only hear hwta they want to hear.
It;ls still debatable whther the Orlando and Nice attacks were anything to do with ISIS, but people make the link because it fuels their aganda |
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"Another sad day this time Germany and France recently again! When will these attacks on Europe stop and when is civil war starting? There's only going to be so much people take before there's war on the streets of Europe.Sad times #prayformunich "
well that blows your theory out of the water doesn't it?
an 18 yr old from munich who was a loner... |
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!!
Interesting post…for a number of reasons.
You were half right as it indeed was a nazi i.e. the same kind of nazi who attacked passengers on a train in Germany on Tuesday with an axe and a knife, the same kind of nazi who attacked a mother and her three daughters with knife on a French holiday camp on Monday, and the very same kind of nazi who murdered and maimed over a hundred people last Friday in Nice…an islamo-nazi.
And I guess you came to your conclusion by watching either of BBC 24 or Sky both of which wheeled out ‘experts’ who were desperately trying to link this massacre to the ‘Far Right’ despite the fact that an attack like this has been predicted for years. Indeed the arse-wipe rag called the Daily Mirror is still peddling this PC version this morning despite quoting the words of a German woman who said: “… she heard the gunman say: "Allahu Akbar" - 'God is great' and an Islamic phrase often used by jihadis .”
Lastly your choice of the word “gutted” is very ill-advised, as this extract from a paramedic who attended the scene of the butchery on the train demonstrates. The extract is from the Daily Mail and don’t worry, you won’t find it in the broadsheets as they replaced factual reporting on “terrorism” with PC tripe years ago.
“After hiding in a lavatory on the commuter train, Riaz Khan jumped out, hacking indiscriminately with an axe and a knife at passengers. He maimed four tourists from Hong Kong, leaving two close to death as their skulls and bodies were smashed to pieces.
As Erik, a 25-year-old paramedic and one of the first to arrive at the scene from the medical centre in the nearby town of Ochsenfurt, told me afterwards: ‘When I climbed into the train, I could see blood everywhere. People lay on the floor. They had gaping holes in their heads, their chests, their stomachs. They are the worst injuries I have ever seen.
‘I began tending to one woman and I saved her life.
‘The police kept telling us to be careful because the attacker might have an accomplice — a brother or cousin.’
By then, Khan had fled from the train through the garden of a nearby house and onto a street. There, he spotted a woman walking her dog. Shouting at her: ‘I am going to f*** you, b****,’ he attacked her before running to a nearby river and then threatening police with an axe. Eventually, he was cornered and shot dead…”
A photo of the smiling racist/sexist savage accompanies the article.
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"Another sad day this time Germany and France recently again! When will these attacks on Europe stop and when is civil war starting? There's only going to be so much people take before there's war on the streets of Europe.Sad times #prayformunich
well that blows your theory out of the water doesn't it?
an 18 yr old from munich who was a loner... "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Praying will not help (in my opinion) nor will blaming refugees.
As the poster above stated - the biggest threats so far have proved to be very much home grown.
Nita"
recent machete attack Syrian national 1 dead 3 injured,bar bombing all in Germany within days all with foreign links |
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! "
a Iranian/German nazi bet there rare! Gutted not really after innocent people were killed? Oh recent machete attack by a Syrian refugee oh bet your gutted lefty  |
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! a Iranian/German nazi bet there rare! Gutted not really after innocent people were killed? Oh recent machete attack by a Syrian refugee oh bet your gutted lefty "
Are you real or a bot sent from the future to write nonsensical messages? |
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"Another sad day this time Germany and France recently again! When will these attacks on Europe stop and when is civil war starting? There's only going to be so much people take before there's war on the streets of Europe.Sad times #prayformunich "
I find the media to be fear mongering and lazy in their reporting.
This kid is one of many disconnected from the world they reside in.
Being described as a loner and weird doesn't help those of us who struggle to fit.
Look after one another.
Care for one another.
It might just help.
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He tried to get into the venue but got refused because he did not have s ticket.
If he had been allowed in there would have been dozens dead or injured
Now say it's not terrorist related |
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"Another sad day this time Germany and France recently again! When will these attacks on Europe stop and when is civil war starting? There's only going to be so much people take before there's war on the streets of Europe.Sad times #prayformunich "
This is what the government want. It's a cover up for something much more sinister going on. Mark my words. Sorry to always be the pessimist but it's true |
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! a Iranian/German nazi bet there rare! Gutted not really after innocent people were killed? Oh recent machete attack by a Syrian refugee oh bet your gutted lefty "
Are you seriously suggesting that someone with mental health issues who just happened to have dual nationality is a 'nazi'? |
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! a Iranian/German nazi bet there rare! Gutted not really after innocent people were killed? Oh recent machete attack by a Syrian refugee oh bet your gutted lefty
Are you seriously suggesting that someone with mental health issues who just happened to have dual nationality is a 'nazi'? "
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Nazi were fascists, islamists are no different, they wish to impose their will and way of life by force!.
Burning heretics and hacking them up isn't new, Thomas More did exactly the same thing for pretty much exactly the same reason... Of course they gave him a knighthood for his endeavours and the Catholics gave him a sainthood... But eventually he fell foul of establishment and was executed!!.
Such is the life of the religious zealot.
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! a Iranian/German nazi bet there rare! Gutted not really after innocent people were killed? Oh recent machete attack by a Syrian refugee oh bet your gutted lefty
Are you seriously suggesting that someone with mental health issues who just happened to have dual nationality is a 'nazi'? .
Nazi were fascists, islamists are no different, they wish to impose their will and way of life by force!.
Burning heretics and hacking them up isn't new, Thomas More did exactly the same thing for pretty much exactly the same reason... Of course they gave him a knighthood for his endeavours and the Catholics gave him a sainthood... But eventually he fell foul of establishment and was executed!!.
Such is the life of the religious zealot.
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The terrorist was obsessed with that Norwegian Nazi who killed 70 odd people because they were left wing. That's why people are calling him a Nazi.
I thought you have some damning words for people who kill lefties for being lefties? |
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! a Iranian/German nazi bet there rare! Gutted not really after innocent people were killed? Oh recent machete attack by a Syrian refugee oh bet your gutted lefty
Are you seriously suggesting that someone with mental health issues who just happened to have dual nationality is a 'nazi'? .
Nazi were fascists, islamists are no different, they wish to impose their will and way of life by force!.
Burning heretics and hacking them up isn't new, Thomas More did exactly the same thing for pretty much exactly the same reason... Of course they gave him a knighthood for his endeavours and the Catholics gave him a sainthood... But eventually he fell foul of establishment and was executed!!.
Such is the life of the religious zealot.
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Doors, thanks for the not required historical update..
are you also suggesting that someone with mental health issue's and who commits such acts as the Munich shooter did is by definition a 'nazi'..? |
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"Another sad day this time Germany and France recently again! When will these attacks on Europe stop and when is civil war starting? There's only going to be so much people take before there's war on the streets of Europe.Sad times #prayformunich
This is what the government want. It's a cover up for something much more sinister going on. Mark my words. Sorry to always be the pessimist but it's true"
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"They don't know whose responsible yet, what makes you think it's refugees who are to blame. It's obviously going to IS related but most previous attacks have been by homegrown Muslim extremists, not refugees.
Apart from about 100,000 deserving Yazidis, the bulk of the rest of the 'refugees' estimated at over two million have been single muslim male ECONOMIC MIGRANTS posing as refugees...astonishingly allowed in with no background checks by an arrogant, reckless, politically correct Merkel. Either way she has a lot to answer for.
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I thought about this a few weeks ago and I realised that people like me and you are looking at it the wrong way 1 or 2 million young males could b3 economic migrants or they could be used as an army of low paid high output low of semi skilled workers that would Boost the already high German output even further if you're economy is based on manufacturering then you need workers I thing Merkel played a master stroke |
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The latest one...Syrian "refugee". Asylum claim turned down but can't deport or send back to "first safe point of entry" because of European Court. (They wanted to send him back to Bulgaria).
To answer the title of the list...why did she let them in...simple answer. Schengen! |
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! a Iranian/German nazi bet there rare! Gutted not really after innocent people were killed? Oh recent machete attack by a Syrian refugee oh bet your gutted lefty
Are you seriously suggesting that someone with mental health issues who just happened to have dual nationality is a 'nazi'? .
Nazi were fascists, islamists are no different, they wish to impose their will and way of life by force!.
Burning heretics and hacking them up isn't new, Thomas More did exactly the same thing for pretty much exactly the same reason... Of course they gave him a knighthood for his endeavours and the Catholics gave him a sainthood... But eventually he fell foul of establishment and was executed!!.
Such is the life of the religious zealot.
Doors, thanks for the not required historical update..
are you also suggesting that someone with mental health issue's and who commits such acts as the Munich shooter did is by definition a 'nazi'..?"
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It's not just technically aimed at you, it's a multi level conversation, I'm pretty sure your well aware of Christian inquisition and heretics in days gone by.... Of course if we can look back and see white highly religious Christians doing pretty much the same thing as today and we can assume Thomas More wasn't clinically insane??.
Then really the obvious parallels are there!..... There just predominantly brown and Muslim today!.
Fascists come in many colours, forms and many outfits but they pretty much all have the ideological belief that the ideology is God and that everybody needs to be forced to adopt their beliefs.... Kim Jung Ill, pol pot, Stalin, Hitler, the Japanese emperor, the pope, Mohammed and even the Jehovah's witnesses all went to convert you and all know how best for you to lead your life!.... So yes to answer you there all fascists |
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! a Iranian/German nazi bet there rare! Gutted not really after innocent people were killed? Oh recent machete attack by a Syrian refugee oh bet your gutted lefty
Are you seriously suggesting that someone with mental health issues who just happened to have dual nationality is a 'nazi'? .
Nazi were fascists, islamists are no different, they wish to impose their will and way of life by force!.
Burning heretics and hacking them up isn't new, Thomas More did exactly the same thing for pretty much exactly the same reason... Of course they gave him a knighthood for his endeavours and the Catholics gave him a sainthood... But eventually he fell foul of establishment and was executed!!.
Such is the life of the religious zealot.
Doors, thanks for the not required historical update..
are you also suggesting that someone with mental health issue's and who commits such acts as the Munich shooter did is by definition a 'nazi'..?.
It's not just technically aimed at you, it's a multi level conversation, I'm pretty sure your well aware of Christian inquisition and heretics in days gone by.... Of course if we can look back and see white highly religious Christians doing pretty much the same thing as today and we can assume Thomas More wasn't clinically insane??.
Then really the obvious parallels are there!..... There just predominantly brown and Muslim today!.
Fascists come in many colours, forms and many outfits but they pretty much all have the ideological belief that the ideology is God and that everybody needs to be forced to adopt their beliefs.... Kim Jung Ill, pol pot, Stalin, Hitler, the Japanese emperor, the pope, Mohammed and even the Jehovah's witnesses all went to convert you and all know how best for you to lead your life!.... So yes to answer you there all fascists"
Funny how you talk about God and then proceed to name a group of mainly atheists!! Any particular reason you missed Mao?
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"Another sad day this time Germany and France recently again! When will these attacks on Europe stop and when is civil war starting? There's only going to be so much people take before there's war on the streets of Europe.Sad times #prayformunich "
I think 17.3 million people voted wisely in the UK to get out of the EU and close our borders
very wise choice indeed
Many in Germany will kick up hell
The Syrian man who blew himself up in Ansbach, Germany, on Sunday made a video pledging allegiance to the leader of so-called Islamic State, Bavaria's interior minister says.
Joachim Hermann said two phones, multiple SIM cards and a laptop were found with the body of the 27-year-old asylum seeker or at his accommodation.
The man threatened a "revenge attack" on Germans in the video, he said.
IS has claimed it was behind the attack and the Syrian was an IS "soldier".
Fifteen people were injured, four of them seriously, when the man's explosive device went off close to a music festival in the small town, which is near Nuremberg.
The attacker announced in the video "in the name of Allah that he pledged allegiance to [IS chief] Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi... and announced an act of revenge against Germans because they were standing in the way of Islam," Mr Hermann said.
Germany was already reeling after five people were wounded on a train in another part of Bavaria a week ago by an axe-wielding teenager from Afghanistan who had pledged allegiance to IS
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I think 17.3 million people voted wisely in the UK to get out of the EU and close our borders
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"Another sad day this time Germany and France recently again! When will these attacks on Europe stop and when is civil war starting? There's only going to be so much people take before there's war on the streets of Europe.Sad times #prayformunich
I think 17.3 million people voted wisely in the UK to get out of the EU and close our borders
very wise choice indeed
Many in Germany will kick up hell
The Syrian man who blew himself up in Ansbach, Germany, on Sunday made a video pledging allegiance to the leader of so-called Islamic State, Bavaria's interior minister says.
Joachim Hermann said two phones, multiple SIM cards and a laptop were found with the body of the 27-year-old asylum seeker or at his accommodation.
The man threatened a "revenge attack" on Germans in the video, he said.
IS has claimed it was behind the attack and the Syrian was an IS "soldier".
Fifteen people were injured, four of them seriously, when the man's explosive device went off close to a music festival in the small town, which is near Nuremberg.
The attacker announced in the video "in the name of Allah that he pledged allegiance to [IS chief] Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi... and announced an act of revenge against Germans because they were standing in the way of Islam," Mr Hermann said.
Germany was already reeling after five people were wounded on a train in another part of Bavaria a week ago by an axe-wielding teenager from Afghanistan who had pledged allegiance to IS
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BBC Radio is reporting that the suicide bomber wanted to get into the festival (packed with families on an evening out) but was refused entry because...he didn't have a ticket!?
Of course having been given everything for free by the German State he must have been shocked... at the very idea of actually having to pay for something!?
The IS racist savage then proceeded to the nearest wine bar and detonated his nail bomb...where fifteen people were having a quiet drink. |
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!!
Interesting post…for a number of reasons.
You were half right as it indeed was a nazi i.e. the same kind of nazi who attacked passengers on a train in Germany on Tuesday with an axe and a knife, the same kind of nazi who attacked a mother and her three daughters with knife on a French holiday camp on Monday, and the very same kind of nazi who murdered and maimed over a hundred people last Friday in Nice…an islamo-nazi.
And I guess you came to your conclusion by watching either of BBC 24 or Sky both of which wheeled out ‘experts’ who were desperately trying to link this massacre to the ‘Far Right’ despite the fact that an attack like this has been predicted for years. Indeed the arse-wipe rag called the Daily Mirror is still peddling this PC version this morning despite quoting the words of a German woman who said: “… she heard the gunman say: "Allahu Akbar" - 'God is great' and an Islamic phrase often used by jihadis .”
Lastly your choice of the word “gutted” is very ill-advised, as this extract from a paramedic who attended the scene of the butchery on the train demonstrates. The extract is from the Daily Mail and don’t worry, you won’t find it in the broadsheets as they replaced factual reporting on “terrorism” with PC tripe years ago.
“After hiding in a lavatory on the commuter train, Riaz Khan jumped out, hacking indiscriminately with an axe and a knife at passengers. He maimed four tourists from Hong Kong, leaving two close to death as their skulls and bodies were smashed to pieces.
As Erik, a 25-year-old paramedic and one of the first to arrive at the scene from the medical centre in the nearby town of Ochsenfurt, told me afterwards: ‘When I climbed into the train, I could see blood everywhere. People lay on the floor. They had gaping holes in their heads, their chests, their stomachs. They are the worst injuries I have ever seen.
‘I began tending to one woman and I saved her life.
‘The police kept telling us to be careful because the attacker might have an accomplice — a brother or cousin.’
By then, Khan had fled from the train through the garden of a nearby house and onto a street. There, he spotted a woman walking her dog. Shouting at her: ‘I am going to f*** you, b****,’ he attacked her before running to a nearby river and then threatening police with an axe. Eventually, he was cornered and shot dead…”
A photo of the smiling racist/sexist savage accompanies the article.
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! a Iranian/German nazi bet there rare! Gutted not really after innocent people were killed? Oh recent machete attack by a Syrian refugee oh bet your gutted lefty
Are you seriously suggesting that someone with mental health issues who just happened to have dual nationality is a 'nazi'? .
Nazi were fascists, islamists are no different, they wish to impose their will and way of life by force!.
Burning heretics and hacking them up isn't new, Thomas More did exactly the same thing for pretty much exactly the same reason... Of course they gave him a knighthood for his endeavours and the Catholics gave him a sainthood... But eventually he fell foul of establishment and was executed!!.
Such is the life of the religious zealot.
Doors, thanks for the not required historical update..
are you also suggesting that someone with mental health issue's and who commits such acts as the Munich shooter did is by definition a 'nazi'..?.
It's not just technically aimed at you, it's a multi level conversation, I'm pretty sure your well aware of Christian inquisition and heretics in days gone by.... Of course if we can look back and see white highly religious Christians doing pretty much the same thing as today and we can assume Thomas More wasn't clinically insane??.
Then really the obvious parallels are there!..... There just predominantly brown and Muslim today!.
Fascists come in many colours, forms and many outfits but they pretty much all have the ideological belief that the ideology is God and that everybody needs to be forced to adopt their beliefs.... Kim Jung Ill, pol pot, Stalin, Hitler, the Japanese emperor, the pope, Mohammed and even the Jehovah's witnesses all went to convert you and all know how best for you to lead your life!.... So yes to answer you there all fascists
Funny how you talk about God and then proceed to name a group of mainly atheists!! Any particular reason you missed Mao?
Step away from the vodka Doors, it's still working hours... "
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Theology or ideology.... When you hold them high enough there all the same and all use the same principals!.
Stalin was born to a priest and went into priesthood as a young man, Hitler was definitely religious, the man was obsessed by it, the emperor is God and Kim Jung thinks he's God.... There about as atheist as the pope!.
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! a Iranian/German nazi bet there rare! Gutted not really after innocent people were killed? Oh recent machete attack by a Syrian refugee oh bet your gutted lefty
Are you seriously suggesting that someone with mental health issues who just happened to have dual nationality is a 'nazi'? .
Nazi were fascists, islamists are no different, they wish to impose their will and way of life by force!.
Burning heretics and hacking them up isn't new, Thomas More did exactly the same thing for pretty much exactly the same reason... Of course they gave him a knighthood for his endeavours and the Catholics gave him a sainthood... But eventually he fell foul of establishment and was executed!!.
Such is the life of the religious zealot.
Doors, thanks for the not required historical update..
are you also suggesting that someone with mental health issue's and who commits such acts as the Munich shooter did is by definition a 'nazi'..?.
It's not just technically aimed at you, it's a multi level conversation, I'm pretty sure your well aware of Christian inquisition and heretics in days gone by.... Of course if we can look back and see white highly religious Christians doing pretty much the same thing as today and we can assume Thomas More wasn't clinically insane??.
Then really the obvious parallels are there!..... There just predominantly brown and Muslim today!.
Fascists come in many colours, forms and many outfits but they pretty much all have the ideological belief that the ideology is God and that everybody needs to be forced to adopt their beliefs.... Kim Jung Ill, pol pot, Stalin, Hitler, the Japanese emperor, the pope, Mohammed and even the Jehovah's witnesses all went to convert you and all know how best for you to lead your life!.... So yes to answer you there all fascists
Funny how you talk about God and then proceed to name a group of mainly atheists!! Any particular reason you missed Mao?
Step away from the vodka Doors, it's still working hours... .
Theology or ideology.... When you hold them high enough there all the same and all use the same principals!.
Stalin was born to a priest and went into priesthood as a young man, Hitler was definitely religious, the man was obsessed by it, the emperor is God and Kim Jung thinks he's God.... There about as atheist as the pope!.
Hence why I left Mao out "
Stalin, so devout he banned religion |
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"Sorry to disappoint you op - but looking more like it was a home grown White German Nazi! You must be gutted!! a Iranian/German nazi bet there rare! Gutted not really after innocent people were killed? Oh recent machete attack by a Syrian refugee oh bet your gutted lefty
Are you seriously suggesting that someone with mental health issues who just happened to have dual nationality is a 'nazi'? .
Nazi were fascists, islamists are no different, they wish to impose their will and way of life by force!.
Burning heretics and hacking them up isn't new, Thomas More did exactly the same thing for pretty much exactly the same reason... Of course they gave him a knighthood for his endeavours and the Catholics gave him a sainthood... But eventually he fell foul of establishment and was executed!!.
Such is the life of the religious zealot.
Doors, thanks for the not required historical update..
are you also suggesting that someone with mental health issue's and who commits such acts as the Munich shooter did is by definition a 'nazi'..?.
It's not just technically aimed at you, it's a multi level conversation, I'm pretty sure your well aware of Christian inquisition and heretics in days gone by.... Of course if we can look back and see white highly religious Christians doing pretty much the same thing as today and we can assume Thomas More wasn't clinically insane??.
Then really the obvious parallels are there!..... There just predominantly brown and Muslim today!.
Fascists come in many colours, forms and many outfits but they pretty much all have the ideological belief that the ideology is God and that everybody needs to be forced to adopt their beliefs.... Kim Jung Ill, pol pot, Stalin, Hitler, the Japanese emperor, the pope, Mohammed and even the Jehovah's witnesses all went to convert you and all know how best for you to lead your life!.... So yes to answer you there all fascists
Funny how you talk about God and then proceed to name a group of mainly atheists!! Any particular reason you missed Mao?
Step away from the vodka Doors, it's still working hours... .
Theology or ideology.... When you hold them high enough there all the same and all use the same principals!.
Stalin was born to a priest and went into priesthood as a young man, Hitler was definitely religious, the man was obsessed by it, the emperor is God and Kim Jung thinks he's God.... There about as atheist as the pope!.
Hence why I left Mao out
Stalin, so devout he banned religion "
. So what...
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What I am genuinely confused about is why are people with mental health problems suddenly all taking to murder.
And why are they all appearing in the same place within a few days of each other ? |
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"What I am genuinely confused about is why are people with mental health problems suddenly all taking to murder.
And why are they all appearing in the same place within a few days of each other ?"
Because organisations Like IS target the weak minded and hopeless souls of this world to do thier dirty work for them.
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"Not sure why people now who wish to stand out have to end up killing people. "
Sadly - it's easier to be infamous than it is to be famous - if you have a disturbed enough mind! |
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"What I am genuinely confused about is why are people with mental health problems suddenly all taking to murder.
And why are they all appearing in the same place within a few days of each other ?
Because organisations Like IS target the weak minded and hopeless souls of this world to do thier dirty work for them.
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I do understand that. All extremist groups rely on the loners and misfits to carry out their dirty deeds but in these instances the atrocities seem to happen in one area then move on to another.
They seem like coordinated attacks but we are told by the media they are actions of lone individuals. |
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"Not sure why people now who wish to stand out have to end up killing people.
Sadly - it's easier to be infamous than it is to be famous - if you have a disturbed enough mind! "
I've read a few studies on the mass school shootings in America and fame and being in the spotlight do figure highly in the motive. |
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"What I am genuinely confused about is why are people with mental health problems suddenly all taking to murder.
And why are they all appearing in the same place within a few days of each other ?
Because organisations Like IS target the weak minded and hopeless souls of this world to do thier dirty work for them.
I do understand that. All extremist groups rely on the loners and misfits to carry out their dirty deeds but in these instances the atrocities seem to happen in one area then move on to another.
They seem like coordinated attacks but we are told by the media they are actions of lone individuals. "
That's how the handlers do it, they will spend months working on individuals more than one at a time getting them to just the right point where they will do almost anything to be seen as important in the world, even if it's only for s short time.
A depressed person is so venerable and an easy target for these animals.
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"What I am genuinely confused about is why are people with mental health problems suddenly all taking to murder.
And why are they all appearing in the same place within a few days of each other ?
Because organisations Like IS target the weak minded and hopeless souls of this world to do thier dirty work for them.
I do understand that. All extremist groups rely on the loners and misfits to carry out their dirty deeds but in these instances the atrocities seem to happen in one area then move on to another.
They seem like coordinated attacks but we are told by the media they are actions of lone individuals.
That's how the handlers do it, they will spend months working on individuals more than one at a time getting them to just the right point where they will do almost anything to be seen as important in the world, even if it's only for s short time.
A depressed person is so venerable and an easy target for these animals.
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"What I am genuinely confused about is why are people with mental health problems suddenly all taking to murder.
And why are they all appearing in the same place within a few days of each other ?
Because organisations Like IS target the weak minded and hopeless souls of this world to do thier dirty work for them.
I do understand that. All extremist groups rely on the loners and misfits to carry out their dirty deeds but in these instances the atrocities seem to happen in one area then move on to another.
They seem like coordinated attacks but we are told by the media they are actions of lone individuals.
That's how the handlers do it, they will spend months working on individuals more than one at a time getting them to just the right point where they will do almost anything to be seen as important in the world, even if it's only for s short time.
A depressed person is so venerable and an easy target for these animals.
But these loners must have made contact with the terrorists somewhere along the line. "
attacking a church and people in it worshipping and slitting the throat of priest and we don't have a problem? Not long before it spreads over here... |
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"Another sad day this time Germany and France recently again! When will these attacks on Europe stop and when is civil war starting? There's only going to be so much people take before there's war on the streets of Europe.Sad times #prayformunich
I think 17.3 million people voted wisely in the UK to get out of the EU and close our borders
very wise choice indeed
Many in Germany will kick up hell
The Syrian man who blew himself up in Ansbach, Germany, on Sunday made a video pledging allegiance to the leader of so-called Islamic State, Bavaria's interior minister says.
Joachim Hermann said two phones, multiple SIM cards and a laptop were found with the body of the 27-year-old asylum seeker or at his accommodation.
The man threatened a "revenge attack" on Germans in the video, he said.
IS has claimed it was behind the attack and the Syrian was an IS "soldier".
Fifteen people were injured, four of them seriously, when the man's explosive device went off close to a music festival in the small town, which is near Nuremberg.
The attacker announced in the video "in the name of Allah that he pledged allegiance to [IS chief] Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi... and announced an act of revenge against Germans because they were standing in the way of Islam," Mr Hermann said.
Germany was already reeling after five people were wounded on a train in another part of Bavaria a week ago by an axe-wielding teenager from Afghanistan who had pledged allegiance to IS
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And why are they all appearing in the same place within a few days of each other ?
Because organisations Like IS target the weak minded and hopeless souls of this world to do thier dirty work for them.
I do understand that. All extremist groups rely on the loners and misfits to carry out their dirty deeds but in these instances the atrocities seem to happen in one area then move on to another.
They seem like coordinated attacks but we are told by the media they are actions of lone individuals.
That's how the handlers do it, they will spend months working on individuals more than one at a time getting them to just the right point where they will do almost anything to be seen as important in the world, even if it's only for s short time.
A depressed person is so venerable and an easy target for these animals.
But these loners must have made contact with the terrorists somewhere along the line. attacking a church and people in it worshipping and slitting the throat of priest and we don't have a problem? Not long before it spreads over here..."
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"What I am genuinely confused about is why are people with mental health problems suddenly all taking to murder.
And why are they all appearing in the same place within a few days of each other ?
Because organisations Like IS target the weak minded and hopeless souls of this world to do thier dirty work for them.
I do understand that. All extremist groups rely on the loners and misfits to carry out their dirty deeds but in these instances the atrocities seem to happen in one area then move on to another.
They seem like coordinated attacks but we are told by the media they are actions of lone individuals.
That's how the handlers do it, they will spend months working on individuals more than one at a time getting them to just the right point where they will do almost anything to be seen as important in the world, even if it's only for s short time.
A depressed person is so venerable and an easy target for these animals.
But these loners must have made contact with the terrorists somewhere along the line. attacking a church and people in it worshipping and slitting the throat of priest and we don't have a problem? Not long before it spreads over here..."
who is 'we'..?
speaking personally I have a massive problem with such behaviour, think you'll also find that most people on here as in vanilla land regardless of their status, politics etc also have a problem with it too.. |
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The news is saying that one of the men was in the French terrorist suspect list!! On the radio news it was said that one of them had tried to go to Syria to join IS but was stopped.
What I don't understand is if the fuckwhits want to go and join up why stop them? Let them go cancel the passport they have no country so have given up any citizenship and would be dead in 6 months anyways so would be another useless waste of a skin to use up a space that someone else far more deserving can have.
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"Another sad day this time Germany and France recently again! When will these attacks on Europe stop and when is civil war starting? There's only going to be so much people take before there's war on the streets of Europe.Sad times #prayformunich
I think 17.3 million people voted wisely in the UK to get out of the EU and close our borders
very wise choice indeed
Many in Germany will kick up hell
The Syrian man who blew himself up in Ansbach, Germany, on Sunday made a video pledging allegiance to the leader of so-called Islamic State, Bavaria's interior minister says.
Joachim Hermann said two phones, multiple SIM cards and a laptop were found with the body of the 27-year-old asylum seeker or at his accommodation.
The man threatened a "revenge attack" on Germans in the video, he said.
IS has claimed it was behind the attack and the Syrian was an IS "soldier".
Fifteen people were injured, four of them seriously, when the man's explosive device went off close to a music festival in the small town, which is near Nuremberg.
The attacker announced in the video "in the name of Allah that he pledged allegiance to [IS chief] Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi... and announced an act of revenge against Germans because they were standing in the way of Islam," Mr Hermann said.
Germany was already reeling after five people were wounded on a train in another part of Bavaria a week ago by an axe-wielding teenager from Afghanistan who had pledged allegiance to IS
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Just one small correction.
The Afghan teenager was apparently in his 20's and from Pakistan.
It's the latest scam here. Get rid of your documents, say you are from a war torn country and under 18 and every door opens.
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"And again today in France in my home town in a church, only one death, the priest, one death too many "
why don't the French nationals stand up to these animals! Probably because they are out numbered like the Germans and we will be in 20 years to come |
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"And again today in France in my home town in a church, only one death, the priest, one death too many why don't the French nationals stand up to these animals! Probably because they are out numbered like the Germans and we will be in 20 years to come "
Perhaps London;
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"And again today in France in my home town in a church, only one death, the priest, one death too many why don't the French nationals stand up to these animals! Probably because they are out numbered like the Germans and we will be in 20 years to come "
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"And again today in France in my home town in a church, only one death, the priest, one death too many why don't the French nationals stand up to these animals! Probably because they are out numbered like the Germans and we will be in 20 years to come "
And how do you suggest French nationals do that?
How can a 84 years old man and a couple of old nuns overpower two determined young men, unexpectedly.
I suppose you would have taken the gold candle holders in a fraction of seconds and crack their skull with it?
Or am I misunderstanding what you mean by French nationals having to stand up to terrorists |
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"And again today in France in my home town in a church, only one death, the priest, one death too many why don't the French nationals stand up to these animals! Probably because they are out numbered like the Germans and we will be in 20 years to come "
cobblers..
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