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"... for the Remain camp and those who are still peddling Project Fear: Reed Employment have just posted details of new job vacancies post the EU Referendum decision. 150,000 of them: Education - 13,000 IT/Telecoms - 12,000 Sales - 11,000 Accountancy - 10,000 Engineering - 8,000 As the big numbers. And it is spread all over the UK. In further distressing news KPMG are reporting growing numbers of FTSE bosses seeking 'Right to Remain' for them and their staff in the UK. KPMG head of Immigration Services, Punam Birly said "We have seen a tripling of demand for our immigration law services." Breaking News just in: It is reported that 160 companies in the 'North East Automotive Alliance' with an annual turnover of over £9.5 Billion spent a full 3 minutes discussing Brexit in a 2 hour meeting. French owned Mecaplast General Manager said to day: "The Uk makes good cars and it will continue making good cars. That's what matters so I am upbeat" Sadly we now have to report that in the days after the vote searches for flights from the USA to the UK doubled; from China jumped 61%; Canada up 49% indicating a huge boom in tourism in the UK. Even bookings from the EU area are up 17%.... Over and above what was a record year last year. There is growing concern among the Remain camp as the FTSE 100, 250 and 350s reach 11 month highs, UK Government bonds in high demand with record low yields and no need for lower interest rates. "You need to be careful quoting these facts, the remainers don't want those kind off good news, just like the Corbyn followers really deny that he is a communist bullying dictator, who couldn't be trusted to feed and water my dog | |||
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"I am not renowned for being careful when it comes to Remainers ... "Indeed you are at the forefront in ensuring that there should be no conciliation, no compromise and that all Renainers should face an inquisition where they renounce their pro European leanings or face deportation to Scotland or some other equally unimportant place. Tolerance and magnanimity is not a concept to strive for seemingly. Perhaps that is the meaning of taking control? Who knows. Suggest you wait for a while before rejoicing too much. Words have a habit of coming back to haunt you on the Internet. | |||
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"I am not renowned for being careful when it comes to Remainers ... "I like everyone hopes it turns out ok, it is the path that has been chosen but we are not in a position to judge the outcome yet by any stretch of one's imagination.. Counting ones chickens is never a good thing but it happens.. you seem incapable of discussing the situation without crowing? | |||
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" Sadly we now have to report that in the days after the vote searches for flights from the USA to the UK doubled; from China jumped 61%; Canada up 49% indicating a huge boom in tourism in the UK. Even bookings from the EU area are up 17%.... Over and above what was a record year last year. " Because the pound is at a historic low in value and tourists can get more for their money coming here now, perhaps? No, I'm sure it's because...Americans are impressed that we voted Leave? Or something?  | |||
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"Wouldn't expect any different we are not post brexit but still a fully paid up member of the EU ..good news on the job front though .." Wow! So any bad news is because of Brexit, while any good news is because we're still in the EU? | |||
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" Sadly we now have to report that in the days after the vote searches for flights from the USA to the UK doubled; from China jumped 61%; Canada up 49% indicating a huge boom in tourism in the UK. Even bookings from the EU area are up 17%.... Over and above what was a record year last year. Because the pound is at a historic low in value and tourists can get more for their money coming here now, perhaps? No, I'm sure it's because...Americans are impressed that we voted Leave? Or something? "Think it might be due to the referendum..the yanks want to see for themselves there is a nation more stupid than they are..... | |||
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" Sadly we now have to report that in the days after the vote searches for flights from the USA to the UK doubled; from China jumped 61%; Canada up 49% indicating a huge boom in tourism in the UK. Even bookings from the EU area are up 17%.... Over and above what was a record year last year. Because the pound is at a historic low in value and tourists can get more for their money coming here now, perhaps? No, I'm sure it's because...Americans are impressed that we voted Leave? Or something?
Think it might be due to the referendum..the yanks want to see for themselves there is a nation more stupid than they are....."Please tell us WHY you bother with this Forum given your hatred and disgust for the UK you left behind? Your continual rubbishing of the country I, and I suspect most Forumites, love and wish well for albeit in different ways is wearing a bit thin. Either add something positive or just leave. You are getting VERY boring .... | |||
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" Sadly we now have to report that in the days after the vote searches for flights from the USA to the UK doubled; from China jumped 61%; Canada up 49% indicating a huge boom in tourism in the UK. Even bookings from the EU area are up 17%.... Over and above what was a record year last year. Because the pound is at a historic low in value and tourists can get more for their money coming here now, perhaps? No, I'm sure it's because...Americans are impressed that we voted Leave? Or something?
Think it might be due to the referendum..the yanks want to see for themselves there is a nation more stupid than they are.....
Please tell us WHY you bother with this Forum given your hatred and disgust for the UK you left behind? Your continual rubbishing of the country I, and I suspect most Forumites, love and wish well for albeit in different ways is wearing a bit thin. Either add something positive or just leave. You are getting VERY boring .... " | |||
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"Sadly I have to report that Wells Fargo, one of the biggest banks in the US, has agreed to buy an office block in the City of London. It is buying an 11-storey block at 33 Central, King William Street, close to the Bank of England and the River Thames. The financial terms weren't disclosed but Reuters quoted sources close to the deal as valuing it at around £300m. " | |||
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"Sadly I have to report that Wells Fargo, one of the biggest banks in the US, has agreed to buy an office block in the City of London. It is buying an 11-storey block at 33 Central, King William Street, close to the Bank of England and the River Thames. The financial terms weren't disclosed but Reuters quoted sources close to the deal as valuing it at around £300m. "One disaster after another...just as George Osborne and David Cameron predicted. I wonder what exactly they were offered for their slavish pro-EU propaganda? | |||
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"Sadly I have to report that Wells Fargo, one of the biggest banks in the US, has agreed to buy an office block in the City of London. It is buying an 11-storey block at 33 Central, King William Street, close to the Bank of England and the River Thames. The financial terms weren't disclosed but Reuters quoted sources close to the deal as valuing it at around £300m.
One disaster after another...just as George Osborne and David Cameron predicted. I wonder what exactly they were offered for their slavish pro-EU propaganda?"Not sure but I heard that they could have as much vaseline as they needed for free | |||
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"Sadly I have to report that Wells Fargo, one of the biggest banks in the US, has agreed to buy an office block in the City of London. It is buying an 11-storey block at 33 Central, King William Street, close to the Bank of England and the River Thames. The financial terms weren't disclosed but Reuters quoted sources close to the deal as valuing it at around £300m. "Great, Wells Fargo a paragon of banking. Probably over here to get into the student loans market or for profit prisons I say. | |||
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"Sadly I have to report that Wells Fargo, one of the biggest banks in the US, has agreed to buy an office block in the City of London. It is buying an 11-storey block at 33 Central, King William Street, close to the Bank of England and the River Thames. The financial terms weren't disclosed but Reuters quoted sources close to the deal as valuing it at around £300m.
Great, Wells Fargo a paragon of banking. Probably over here to get into the student loans market or for profit prisons I say."always one  | |||
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" Sadly we now have to report that in the days after the vote searches for flights from the USA to the UK doubled; from China jumped 61%; Canada up 49% indicating a huge boom in tourism in the UK. Even bookings from the EU area are up 17%.... Over and above what was a record year last year. Because the pound is at a historic low in value and tourists can get more for their money coming here now, perhaps? No, I'm sure it's because...Americans are impressed that we voted Leave? Or something?
Think it might be due to the referendum..the yanks want to see for themselves there is a nation more stupid than they are.....
Please tell us WHY you bother with this Forum given your hatred and disgust for the UK you left behind? Your continual rubbishing of the country I, and I suspect most Forumites, love and wish well for albeit in different ways is wearing a bit thin. Either add something positive or just leave. You are getting VERY boring .... "Who are you to tell someone that they shouldn't be on the forum, or posting on a thread?  | |||
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"... for the Remain camp and those who are still peddling Project Fear: Reed Employment have just posted details of new job vacancies post the EU Referendum decision. 150,000 of them: Education - 13,000 IT/Telecoms - 12,000 Sales - 11,000 Accountancy - 10,000 Engineering - 8,000 As the big numbers. And it is spread all over the UK. In further distressing news KPMG are reporting growing numbers of FTSE bosses seeking 'Right to Remain' for them and their staff in the UK. KPMG head of Immigration Services, Punam Birly said "We have seen a tripling of demand for our immigration law services." Breaking News just in: It is reported that 160 companies in the 'North East Automotive Alliance' with an annual turnover of over £9.5 Billion spent a full 3 minutes discussing Brexit in a 2 hour meeting. French owned Mecaplast General Manager said to day: "The Uk makes good cars and it will continue making good cars. That's what matters so I am upbeat" Sadly we now have to report that in the days after the vote searches for flights from the USA to the UK doubled; from China jumped 61%; Canada up 49% indicating a huge boom in tourism in the UK. Even bookings from the EU area are up 17%.... Over and above what was a record year last year. There is growing concern among the Remain camp as the FTSE 100, 250 and 350s reach 11 month highs, UK Government bonds in high demand with record low yields and no need for lower interest rates. "Those aren’t new jobs created as a result of Brexit, those are just jobs that are available at anytime as part of a regular turnover of staff. Why do you see it as a good thing that there is a tripling of highly skilled talent seeking legal advice to see if they can remain in the country? Of course tourists come when your currency crashes to a 30 year low like has happened to the pound. Thats because overnight we have become significantly cheaper. Great if you work in the tourist industry, but fairly rubbish if you don’t, but rely on imports in this highly connected world that we live in, especially for daily essentials such as food. As reported "NFU president Meurig Raymond said the referendum result was a “political car crash”, and warned that the UK’s dependence on imports combined with a weakened pound would mean the country could expect to see the price of food go up.” But what would the NFU know about farming? Look at shares in major house builders like Barratt, they have lost 30% of their value since the referendum result, and 25% for Persimmon. Try telling them and all of their contractor, sub-contractor and suppliers how good Brexit is. | |||
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"... for the Remain camp and those who are still peddling Project Fear: Reed Employment have just posted details of new job vacancies post the EU Referendum decision. 150,000 of them: Education - 13,000 IT/Telecoms - 12,000 Sales - 11,000 Accountancy - 10,000 Engineering - 8,000 As the big numbers. And it is spread all over the UK. In further distressing news KPMG are reporting growing numbers of FTSE bosses seeking 'Right to Remain' for them and their staff in the UK. KPMG head of Immigration Services, Punam Birly said "We have seen a tripling of demand for our immigration law services." Breaking News just in: It is reported that 160 companies in the 'North East Automotive Alliance' with an annual turnover of over £9.5 Billion spent a full 3 minutes discussing Brexit in a 2 hour meeting. French owned Mecaplast General Manager said to day: "The Uk makes good cars and it will continue making good cars. That's what matters so I am upbeat" Sadly we now have to report that in the days after the vote searches for flights from the USA to the UK doubled; from China jumped 61%; Canada up 49% indicating a huge boom in tourism in the UK. Even bookings from the EU area are up 17%.... Over and above what was a record year last year. There is growing concern among the Remain camp as the FTSE 100, 250 and 350s reach 11 month highs, UK Government bonds in high demand with record low yields and no need for lower interest rates.
Those aren’t new jobs created as a result of Brexit, those are just jobs that are available at anytime as part of a regular turnover of staff.
Why do you see it as a good thing that there is a tripling of highly skilled talent seeking legal advice to see if they can remain in the country?
Of course tourists come when your currency crashes to a 30 year low like has happened to the pound. Thats because overnight we have become significantly cheaper. Great if you work in the tourist industry, but fairly rubbish if you don’t, but rely on imports in this highly connected world that we live in, especially for daily essentials such as food. As reported "NFU president Meurig Raymond said the referendum result was a “political car crash”, and warned that the UK’s dependence on imports combined with a weakened pound would mean the country could expect to see the price of food go up.” But what would the NFU know about farming?
Look at shares in major house builders like Barratt, they have lost 30% of their value since the referendum result, and 25% for Persimmon. Try telling them and all of their contractor, sub-contractor and suppliers how good Brexit is."Brexit is the best thing that this country has done for years and I can't tell if you are narrow minded or just miffed that you chose to back a losing side and coudn't see the obvious advantages both fiscal and political outside of the EU that the majority of the electorate could and now try to make yourself feel better by kidding yourself that you were right. To put down any good news with yeah but no but yeah but is, well, what it is. Rather tiresome and childish | |||
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" Those aren’t new jobs created as a result of Brexit, those are just jobs that are available at anytime as part of a regular turnover of staff. " Again its sad people can't have a bit of humour on here but hey ... Did I say these jobs were because of Brexit. No. The point is we were told that the heavens would fall and jobs would disappear. The sun rose this morning as usual and these jobs have been created SINCE Brexit. Not BECAUSE of. " Why do you see it as a good thing that there is a tripling of highly skilled talent seeking legal advice to see if they can remain in the country? " Errr .... because it shows people are committed to a post-Brexit UK. It shows that the great and good are not packing bags and catching the first plane out. It shows the doom merchants like you were WRONG! "Of course tourists come when your currency crashes to a 30 year low like has happened to the pound. Thats because overnight we have become significantly cheaper." Ah yes the Pound crashes. These graphs show how bad it can be. Oh wait... they are from January 2010 not July 2016. When Brown was Prime Minister! http://citywire.co.uk/money/how-the-pound-has-fared-over-the-past-decade/a376781 " Great if you work in the tourist industry, but fairly rubbish if you don’t, but rely on imports in this highly connected world that we live in, especially for daily essentials such as food." Ah yes do please only quote one side of the argument as usual. Yes SOME Imports will be dearer which will maybe help our Current Account Deficit especially if UK sourced goods are cheaper. Of course when we start bringing in the Free Trade deals countries want to make with us imports will be cheaper as Duties fall. You forgot to mention our Exports which are now considerably cheaper on external markets. I take it you think it is scandalous for us to have an advantage over our poor EU 'friends'? " As reported "NFU president Meurig Raymond said the referendum result was a “political car crash”, and warned that the UK’s dependence on imports combined with a weakened pound would mean the country could expect to see the price of food go up.” But what would the NFU know about farming?" Oh they know all about farming. As do the Framers who are paid by the EU to NOT farm their land. Why? because the french and Italians aren't as efficient. And because the Eu wants us to import more food from within the EU. Freed from that bureaucratic nonsense our farmers who are the most efficient in Europe can deliver the most food they can underwritten by targeted funding that replaces the broad brush approach of the EU. Set Aside has been the biggest failure of EU agricultural policy. let the Farmers farm. As you say they know best. Maybe we can now pay Dairy farmers what they are worth or do you still want Supermarkets to make huge profits from cheap milk while the farmers go out of business? " Look at shares in major house builders like Barratt, they have lost 30% of their value since the referendum result, and 25% for Persimmon. Try telling them and all of their contractor, sub-contractor and suppliers how good Brexit is." Actually Share Price does not affect current account trading so therefore suppliers and subbies are not affected. None have cut back on any building. And as for share price? What was the last comment on builders by the BBC on the 8th July? "Taylor Wimpey and Berkley Group - up 8.5% and 5.3% respectively - are helping to buoy the market, while Barrett Developments are up 5.6%.The FTSE 250 has also erased earlier losses to be up 1.4%, with another homebuilder, Bovis, leading the charge with a near-12% gain." Not quite the picture you painted is it? But then you are part of that rather sad group that see joy in reporting anything negative especially if you can 'jazz it up' a bit. Oh and even better if you can leave half the story out. Honourable 'Remainers' are now being called 'Remoaners'.... | |||
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" Sadly we now have to report that in the days after the vote searches for flights from the USA to the UK doubled; from China jumped 61%; Canada up 49% indicating a huge boom in tourism in the UK. Even bookings from the EU area are up 17%.... Over and above what was a record year last year. Because the pound is at a historic low in value and tourists can get more for their money coming here now, perhaps? No, I'm sure it's because...Americans are impressed that we voted Leave? Or something?
Think it might be due to the referendum..the yanks want to see for themselves there is a nation more stupid than they are.....
Please tell us WHY you bother with this Forum given your hatred and disgust for the UK you left behind? Your continual rubbishing of the country I, and I suspect most Forumites, love and wish well for albeit in different ways is wearing a bit thin. Either add something positive or just leave. You are getting VERY boring ....
Who are you to tell someone that they shouldn't be on the forum, or posting on a thread? "Oh dearie me. The fake indignation is hilarious. Where EXACTLY did I say anyone should not be posting? Do try and read a bit slower. I was making the point that some of I am getting fed up with someone who has left the country rubbishing the country I love. Others share that view. All I was saying was either add something positive or don't bother posting. Argument is a good thing. Debate is a good thing but for someone to keep trolling Forums with the same anti-British crap verging on hatred is IMHO just unacceptable. Maybe you share his views? | |||
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" Sadly we now have to report that in the days after the vote searches for flights from the USA to the UK doubled; from China jumped 61%; Canada up 49% indicating a huge boom in tourism in the UK. Even bookings from the EU area are up 17%.... Over and above what was a record year last year. Because the pound is at a historic low in value and tourists can get more for their money coming here now, perhaps? No, I'm sure it's because...Americans are impressed that we voted Leave? Or something?
Think it might be due to the referendum..the yanks want to see for themselves there is a nation more stupid than they are.....
Please tell us WHY you bother with this Forum given your hatred and disgust for the UK you left behind? Your continual rubbishing of the country I, and I suspect most Forumites, love and wish well for albeit in different ways is wearing a bit thin. Either add something positive or just leave. You are getting VERY boring ....
Who are you to tell someone that they shouldn't be on the forum, or posting on a thread?
Oh dearie me. The fake indignation is hilarious. Where EXACTLY did I say anyone should not be posting? Do try and read a bit slower. I was making the point that some of I am getting fed up with someone who has left the country rubbishing the country I love. Others share that view. All I was saying was either add something positive or don't bother posting. Argument is a good thing. Debate is a good thing but for someone to keep trolling Forums with the same anti-British crap verging on hatred is IMHO just unacceptable.
Maybe you share his views?"Why do you think that living or working elsewhere in the world means that you hate the UK? You said add something positive or leave. What you mean is agree with me or leave. Obviously you can't agree with someone who disagrees with you. Are your arguments so flimsy that they cant bare scrutiny? I, and I'm sure the vast majority of other people who voted remain love their country. It has been the Leave camp who have been talking the UK down, saying how broken it is and in need of fixing, and that all of these problems have been caused by the EU. I am extremely proud of the UK just the way it is. Is there room for improvement? Of course, but the Leave campaign would have us believe that we are some developing country. We are not, we have a fantastic healthcare system, a fantastic education system, world leading firms, creative talent etc. etc. | |||
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" Those aren’t new jobs created as a result of Brexit, those are just jobs that are available at anytime as part of a regular turnover of staff. Again its sad people can't have a bit of humour on here but hey ... Did I say these jobs were because of Brexit. No. The point is we were told that the heavens would fall and jobs would disappear. The sun rose this morning as usual and these jobs have been created SINCE Brexit. Not BECAUSE of. Why do you see it as a good thing that there is a tripling of highly skilled talent seeking legal advice to see if they can remain in the country? Errr .... because it shows people are committed to a post-Brexit UK. It shows that the great and good are not packing bags and catching the first plane out. It shows the doom merchants like you were WRONG! Of course tourists come when your currency crashes to a 30 year low like has happened to the pound. Thats because overnight we have become significantly cheaper. Ah yes the Pound crashes. These graphs show how bad it can be. Oh wait... they are from January 2010 not July 2016. When Brown was Prime Minister! http://citywire.co.uk/money/how-the-pound-has-fared-over-the-past-decade/a376781 Great if you work in the tourist industry, but fairly rubbish if you don’t, but rely on imports in this highly connected world that we live in, especially for daily essentials such as food. Ah yes do please only quote one side of the argument as usual. Yes SOME Imports will be dearer which will maybe help our Current Account Deficit especially if UK sourced goods are cheaper. Of course when we start bringing in the Free Trade deals countries want to make with us imports will be cheaper as Duties fall. You forgot to mention our Exports which are now considerably cheaper on external markets. I take it you think it is scandalous for us to have an advantage over our poor EU 'friends'? As reported "NFU president Meurig Raymond said the referendum result was a “political car crash”, and warned that the UK’s dependence on imports combined with a weakened pound would mean the country could expect to see the price of food go up.” But what would the NFU know about farming? Oh they know all about farming. As do the Framers who are paid by the EU to NOT farm their land. Why? because the french and Italians aren't as efficient. And because the Eu wants us to import more food from within the EU. Freed from that bureaucratic nonsense our farmers who are the most efficient in Europe can deliver the most food they can underwritten by targeted funding that replaces the broad brush approach of the EU. Set Aside has been the biggest failure of EU agricultural policy. let the Farmers farm. As you say they know best. Maybe we can now pay Dairy farmers what they are worth or do you still want Supermarkets to make huge profits from cheap milk while the farmers go out of business? Look at shares in major house builders like Barratt, they have lost 30% of their value since the referendum result, and 25% for Persimmon. Try telling them and all of their contractor, sub-contractor and suppliers how good Brexit is. Actually Share Price does not affect current account trading so therefore suppliers and subbies are not affected. None have cut back on any building. And as for share price? What was the last comment on builders by the BBC on the 8th July? "Taylor Wimpey and Berkley Group - up 8.5% and 5.3% respectively - are helping to buoy the market, while Barrett Developments are up 5.6%.The FTSE 250 has also erased earlier losses to be up 1.4%, with another homebuilder, Bovis, leading the charge with a near-12% gain." Not quite the picture you painted is it? But then you are part of that rather sad group that see joy in reporting anything negative especially if you can 'jazz it up' a bit. Oh and even better if you can leave half the story out. Honourable 'Remainers' are now being called 'Remoaners'.... "Your slippery grasp of economics seems to have failed you again. Why has the share price fallen? Because the markets believe that the firms will build less houses. If they build less houses, they need less suppliers and less contractors, leading to rising unemployment in the sector. Instead of talking about trade deficits, why don't you take a moment to educate us about individuals. Do the vast majority of the population export anything themselves? Do they import anything? It is NOT good that people start having to seek legal advice on if they can see if they can stay in the country or not! How can you possibly see that as a positive? | |||
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" Those aren’t new jobs created as a result of Brexit, those are just jobs that are available at anytime as part of a regular turnover of staff. Again its sad people can't have a bit of humour on here but hey ... Did I say these jobs were because of Brexit. No. The point is we were told that the heavens would fall and jobs would disappear. The sun rose this morning as usual and these jobs have been created SINCE Brexit. Not BECAUSE of. Why do you see it as a good thing that there is a tripling of highly skilled talent seeking legal advice to see if they can remain in the country? Errr .... because it shows people are committed to a post-Brexit UK. It shows that the great and good are not packing bags and catching the first plane out. It shows the doom merchants like you were WRONG! Of course tourists come when your currency crashes to a 30 year low like has happened to the pound. Thats because overnight we have become significantly cheaper. Ah yes the Pound crashes. These graphs show how bad it can be. Oh wait... they are from January 2010 not July 2016. When Brown was Prime Minister! http://citywire.co.uk/money/how-the-pound-has-fared-over-the-past-decade/a376781 Great if you work in the tourist industry, but fairly rubbish if you don’t, but rely on imports in this highly connected world that we live in, especially for daily essentials such as food. Ah yes do please only quote one side of the argument as usual. Yes SOME Imports will be dearer which will maybe help our Current Account Deficit especially if UK sourced goods are cheaper. Of course when we start bringing in the Free Trade deals countries want to make with us imports will be cheaper as Duties fall. You forgot to mention our Exports which are now considerably cheaper on external markets. I take it you think it is scandalous for us to have an advantage over our poor EU 'friends'? As reported "NFU president Meurig Raymond said the referendum result was a “political car crash”, and warned that the UK’s dependence on imports combined with a weakened pound would mean the country could expect to see the price of food go up.” But what would the NFU know about farming? Oh they know all about farming. As do the Framers who are paid by the EU to NOT farm their land. Why? because the french and Italians aren't as efficient. And because the Eu wants us to import more food from within the EU. Freed from that bureaucratic nonsense our farmers who are the most efficient in Europe can deliver the most food they can underwritten by targeted funding that replaces the broad brush approach of the EU. Set Aside has been the biggest failure of EU agricultural policy. let the Farmers farm. As you say they know best. Maybe we can now pay Dairy farmers what they are worth or do you still want Supermarkets to make huge profits from cheap milk while the farmers go out of business? Look at shares in major house builders like Barratt, they have lost 30% of their value since the referendum result, and 25% for Persimmon. Try telling them and all of their contractor, sub-contractor and suppliers how good Brexit is. Actually Share Price does not affect current account trading so therefore suppliers and subbies are not affected. None have cut back on any building. And as for share price? What was the last comment on builders by the BBC on the 8th July? "Taylor Wimpey and Berkley Group - up 8.5% and 5.3% respectively - are helping to buoy the market, while Barrett Developments are up 5.6%.The FTSE 250 has also erased earlier losses to be up 1.4%, with another homebuilder, Bovis, leading the charge with a near-12% gain." Not quite the picture you painted is it? But then you are part of that rather sad group that see joy in reporting anything negative especially if you can 'jazz it up' a bit. Oh and even better if you can leave half the story out. Honourable 'Remainers' are now being called 'Remoaners'.... "Not quite the blinkered Rosie picture you try to paint ... https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/jun/24/house-price-fall-could-follow-brexit-say-experts | |||
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" Those aren’t new jobs created as a result of Brexit, those are just jobs that are available at anytime as part of a regular turnover of staff. Again its sad people can't have a bit of humour on here but hey ... Did I say these jobs were because of Brexit. No. The point is we were told that the heavens would fall and jobs would disappear. The sun rose this morning as usual and these jobs have been created SINCE Brexit. Not BECAUSE of. Why do you see it as a good thing that there is a tripling of highly skilled talent seeking legal advice to see if they can remain in the country? Errr .... because it shows people are committed to a post-Brexit UK. It shows that the great and good are not packing bags and catching the first plane out. It shows the doom merchants like you were WRONG! Of course tourists come when your currency crashes to a 30 year low like has happened to the pound. Thats because overnight we have become significantly cheaper. Ah yes the Pound crashes. These graphs show how bad it can be. Oh wait... they are from January 2010 not July 2016. When Brown was Prime Minister! http://citywire.co.uk/money/how-the-pound-has-fared-over-the-past-decade/a376781 Great if you work in the tourist industry, but fairly rubbish if you don’t, but rely on imports in this highly connected world that we live in, especially for daily essentials such as food. Ah yes do please only quote one side of the argument as usual. Yes SOME Imports will be dearer which will maybe help our Current Account Deficit especially if UK sourced goods are cheaper. Of course when we start bringing in the Free Trade deals countries want to make with us imports will be cheaper as Duties fall. You forgot to mention our Exports which are now considerably cheaper on external markets. I take it you think it is scandalous for us to have an advantage over our poor EU 'friends'? As reported "NFU president Meurig Raymond said the referendum result was a “political car crash”, and warned that the UK’s dependence on imports combined with a weakened pound would mean the country could expect to see the price of food go up.” But what would the NFU know about farming? Oh they know all about farming. As do the Framers who are paid by the EU to NOT farm their land. Why? because the french and Italians aren't as efficient. And because the Eu wants us to import more food from within the EU. Freed from that bureaucratic nonsense our farmers who are the most efficient in Europe can deliver the most food they can underwritten by targeted funding that replaces the broad brush approach of the EU. Set Aside has been the biggest failure of EU agricultural policy. let the Farmers farm. As you say they know best. Maybe we can now pay Dairy farmers what they are worth or do you still want Supermarkets to make huge profits from cheap milk while the farmers go out of business? Look at shares in major house builders like Barratt, they have lost 30% of their value since the referendum result, and 25% for Persimmon. Try telling them and all of their contractor, sub-contractor and suppliers how good Brexit is. Actually Share Price does not affect current account trading so therefore suppliers and subbies are not affected. None have cut back on any building. And as for share price? What was the last comment on builders by the BBC on the 8th July? "Taylor Wimpey and Berkley Group - up 8.5% and 5.3% respectively - are helping to buoy the market, while Barrett Developments are up 5.6%.The FTSE 250 has also erased earlier losses to be up 1.4%, with another homebuilder, Bovis, leading the charge with a near-12% gain." Not quite the picture you painted is it? But then you are part of that rather sad group that see joy in reporting anything negative especially if you can 'jazz it up' a bit. Oh and even better if you can leave half the story out. Honourable 'Remainers' are now being called 'Remoaners'....
Not quite the blinkered Rosie picture you try to paint ...
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" Why do you think that living or working elsewhere in the world means that you hate the UK? " Utter crap I never said that at all and people only have to look above to see you are not being too accurate. " You said add something positive or leave. What you mean is agree with me or leave. Obviously you can't agree with someone who disagrees with you. Are your arguments so flimsy that they cant bare scrutiny?" Stop inferring meanings on my words that are clearly not there. Trashing a country is a negative thing. Saying 'I think we should have remained' is a positive thing. Again people can look above and see my words and make their own judgement. | |||
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" Those aren’t new jobs created as a result of Brexit, those are just jobs that are available at anytime as part of a regular turnover of staff. Again its sad people can't have a bit of humour on here but hey ... Did I say these jobs were because of Brexit. No. The point is we were told that the heavens would fall and jobs would disappear. The sun rose this morning as usual and these jobs have been created SINCE Brexit. Not BECAUSE of. Why do you see it as a good thing that there is a tripling of highly skilled talent seeking legal advice to see if they can remain in the country? Errr .... because it shows people are committed to a post-Brexit UK. It shows that the great and good are not packing bags and catching the first plane out. It shows the doom merchants like you were WRONG! Of course tourists come when your currency crashes to a 30 year low like has happened to the pound. Thats because overnight we have become significantly cheaper. Ah yes the Pound crashes. These graphs show how bad it can be. Oh wait... they are from January 2010 not July 2016. When Brown was Prime Minister! http://citywire.co.uk/money/how-the-pound-has-fared-over-the-past-decade/a376781 Great if you work in the tourist industry, but fairly rubbish if you don’t, but rely on imports in this highly connected world that we live in, especially for daily essentials such as food. Ah yes do please only quote one side of the argument as usual. Yes SOME Imports will be dearer which will maybe help our Current Account Deficit especially if UK sourced goods are cheaper. Of course when we start bringing in the Free Trade deals countries want to make with us imports will be cheaper as Duties fall. You forgot to mention our Exports which are now considerably cheaper on external markets. I take it you think it is scandalous for us to have an advantage over our poor EU 'friends'? As reported "NFU president Meurig Raymond said the referendum result was a “political car crash”, and warned that the UK’s dependence on imports combined with a weakened pound would mean the country could expect to see the price of food go up.” But what would the NFU know about farming? Oh they know all about farming. As do the Framers who are paid by the EU to NOT farm their land. Why? because the french and Italians aren't as efficient. And because the Eu wants us to import more food from within the EU. Freed from that bureaucratic nonsense our farmers who are the most efficient in Europe can deliver the most food they can underwritten by targeted funding that replaces the broad brush approach of the EU. Set Aside has been the biggest failure of EU agricultural policy. let the Farmers farm. As you say they know best. Maybe we can now pay Dairy farmers what they are worth or do you still want Supermarkets to make huge profits from cheap milk while the farmers go out of business? Look at shares in major house builders like Barratt, they have lost 30% of their value since the referendum result, and 25% for Persimmon. Try telling them and all of their contractor, sub-contractor and suppliers how good Brexit is. Actually Share Price does not affect current account trading so therefore suppliers and subbies are not affected. None have cut back on any building. And as for share price? What was the last comment on builders by the BBC on the 8th July? "Taylor Wimpey and Berkley Group - up 8.5% and 5.3% respectively - are helping to buoy the market, while Barrett Developments are up 5.6%.The FTSE 250 has also erased earlier losses to be up 1.4%, with another homebuilder, Bovis, leading the charge with a near-12% gain." Not quite the picture you painted is it? But then you are part of that rather sad group that see joy in reporting anything negative especially if you can 'jazz it up' a bit. Oh and even better if you can leave half the story out. Honourable 'Remainers' are now being called 'Remoaners'....
Not quite the blinkered Rosie picture you try to paint ...
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/jun/24/house-price-fall-could-follow-brexit-say-experts"And another one https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/15/sharp-fall-in-uk-housebuilding-drags-down-construction-sector | |||
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" Those aren’t new jobs created as a result of Brexit, those are just jobs that are available at anytime as part of a regular turnover of staff. Again its sad people can't have a bit of humour on here but hey ... Did I say these jobs were because of Brexit. No. The point is we were told that the heavens would fall and jobs would disappear. The sun rose this morning as usual and these jobs have been created SINCE Brexit. Not BECAUSE of. Why do you see it as a good thing that there is a tripling of highly skilled talent seeking legal advice to see if they can remain in the country? Errr .... because it shows people are committed to a post-Brexit UK. It shows that the great and good are not packing bags and catching the first plane out. It shows the doom merchants like you were WRONG! Of course tourists come when your currency crashes to a 30 year low like has happened to the pound. Thats because overnight we have become significantly cheaper. Ah yes the Pound crashes. These graphs show how bad it can be. Oh wait... they are from January 2010 not July 2016. When Brown was Prime Minister! http://citywire.co.uk/money/how-the-pound-has-fared-over-the-past-decade/a376781 Great if you work in the tourist industry, but fairly rubbish if you don’t, but rely on imports in this highly connected world that we live in, especially for daily essentials such as food. Ah yes do please only quote one side of the argument as usual. Yes SOME Imports will be dearer which will maybe help our Current Account Deficit especially if UK sourced goods are cheaper. Of course when we start bringing in the Free Trade deals countries want to make with us imports will be cheaper as Duties fall. You forgot to mention our Exports which are now considerably cheaper on external markets. I take it you think it is scandalous for us to have an advantage over our poor EU 'friends'? As reported "NFU president Meurig Raymond said the referendum result was a “political car crash”, and warned that the UK’s dependence on imports combined with a weakened pound would mean the country could expect to see the price of food go up.” But what would the NFU know about farming? Oh they know all about farming. As do the Framers who are paid by the EU to NOT farm their land. Why? because the french and Italians aren't as efficient. And because the Eu wants us to import more food from within the EU. Freed from that bureaucratic nonsense our farmers who are the most efficient in Europe can deliver the most food they can underwritten by targeted funding that replaces the broad brush approach of the EU. Set Aside has been the biggest failure of EU agricultural policy. let the Farmers farm. As you say they know best. Maybe we can now pay Dairy farmers what they are worth or do you still want Supermarkets to make huge profits from cheap milk while the farmers go out of business? Look at shares in major house builders like Barratt, they have lost 30% of their value since the referendum result, and 25% for Persimmon. Try telling them and all of their contractor, sub-contractor and suppliers how good Brexit is. Actually Share Price does not affect current account trading so therefore suppliers and subbies are not affected. None have cut back on any building. And as for share price? What was the last comment on builders by the BBC on the 8th July? "Taylor Wimpey and Berkley Group - up 8.5% and 5.3% respectively - are helping to buoy the market, while Barrett Developments are up 5.6%.The FTSE 250 has also erased earlier losses to be up 1.4%, with another homebuilder, Bovis, leading the charge with a near-12% gain." Not quite the picture you painted is it? But then you are part of that rather sad group that see joy in reporting anything negative especially if you can 'jazz it up' a bit. Oh and even better if you can leave half the story out. Honourable 'Remainers' are now being called 'Remoaners'....
Not quite the blinkered Rosie picture you try to paint ...
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/jun/24/house-price-fall-could-follow-brexit-say-experts
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/15/sharp-fall-in-uk-housebuilding-drags-down-construction-sector"Oops another one http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/house-prices/ Time will tell what effect brexit will have. .. | |||
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"hope you guys are outside sitting in the sunshine writing all this shite "Just reporting what the media is saying ..always best to have an early warning when the shit is going to hit the fan so you can dodge it ... | |||
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" Your slippery grasp of economics seems to have failed you again. Why has the share price fallen? Because the markets believe that the firms will build less houses. If they build less houses, they need less suppliers and less contractors, leading to rising unemployment in the sector." Well yes indeed possibly so. Except for one minor defect in your statement. As the BBC reported the Housebuilders' shares have recovered. and I quote: "UBS has rated the housebuilding sector as a "buy" as it says there is no visible sign of distress in financial system and it does not see any sharp fall in mortgage lending coming." " Instead of talking about trade deficits, why don't you take a moment to educate us about individuals. Do the vast majority of the population export anything themselves? Do they import anything?" Actually it is precisely the activity of the individuals that creates imports and exports which create deficits and surpluses. And price is important in those individual's decisions. Add duties and it may deter purchases. Reduce Duties and it may incentivise purchases. One persons import is another person's export. How is my 'slippery grasp of economics' doing? " It is NOT good that people start having to seek legal advice on if they can see if they can stay in the country or not! How can you possibly see that as a positive? " You must either have a very short attention span or you are just on a wind up mission. READ ABOVE /\ | |||
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"Could remain the title to "Job creation still going ahead while Britain is a member of the EU". " You could indeed. But weren't we told by the Establishment that if we voted to leave the EU (as we did) then their would be a Tsunami of jobs leaving the UK (which there hasn't)? Nearly 4 weeks in and apart from a drop in Sterling (which is both positive and negative) there hasn't actually been ONE negative fact since Brexit. Indeed Stock Markets are on an 11 month high. The doom mongers are still forecasting that plague of locusts though .... | |||
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"Could remain the title to "Job creation still going ahead while Britain is a member of the EU". You could indeed. But weren't we told by the Establishment that if we voted to leave the EU (as we did) then their would be a Tsunami of jobs leaving the UK (which there hasn't)? Nearly 4 weeks in and apart from a drop in Sterling (which is both positive and negative) there hasn't actually been ONE negative fact since Brexit. Indeed Stock Markets are on an 11 month high. The doom mongers are still forecasting that plague of locusts though ...." there are a lot of flies about | |||
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" Please tell us WHY you bother with this Forum given your hatred and disgust for the UK you left behind? Your continual rubbishing of the country I, and I suspect most Forumites, love and wish well for albeit in different ways is wearing a bit thin. Either add something positive or just leave. You are getting VERY boring .... "Please tell me why you continue to write garbage about possibilities about searches people have done, about quotes French companies have made giving no indication of their future intentions, simply, managerial sound-bites for you to grasp seeds of hope that all is well: you seemingly enjoy these. As far as the job releases. No doubt there are accountancy jobs as so many were axed in recent months! Education, so many are leaving the profession they cant recruit fast enough. Sales, are always advertised it'd be nice to know similar figures a year ago. Nobody is rubbishing anything, people are simply rubbishing the continued turd you polish and the reaction gained when a turd is called, a turd. | |||
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"Could remain the title to "Job creation still going ahead while Britain is a member of the EU". You could indeed. But weren't we told by the Establishment that if we voted to leave the EU (as we did) then their would be a Tsunami of jobs leaving the UK (which there hasn't)? Nearly 4 weeks in and apart from a drop in Sterling (which is both positive and negative) there hasn't actually been ONE negative fact since Brexit. Indeed Stock Markets are on an 11 month high. The doom mongers are still forecasting that plague of locusts though ...." Open your eyes to what is all around ..recent news ..stop posting bullshit and start with the truth .. House prices to fall in post-Brexit tumble The number of people wanting to buy a house has fallen to the lowest level since mid-2008 amid post-referendum uncertainty, according to the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors. In its residential market survey, which has been carried out since the referendum, 27pc more surveyors polled said that house prices would fall rather than rise across the country in the next three months. | |||
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"Could remain the title to "Job creation still going ahead while Britain is a member of the EU". You could indeed. But weren't we told by the Establishment that if we voted to leave the EU (as we did) then their would be a Tsunami of jobs leaving the UK (which there hasn't)? Nearly 4 weeks in and apart from a drop in Sterling (which is both positive and negative) there hasn't actually been ONE negative fact since Brexit. Indeed Stock Markets are on an 11 month high. The doom mongers are still forecasting that plague of locusts though ...." Try as you may you will never polish the brexit turd ... Travel firm Lowcosttravelgroup has collapsed into administration affecting 27,000 customers currently in resorts and 110,000 with bookings. Market turbulence surrounding the EU referendum result - including the fall in the value of the pound which dissuaded many customers from travelling - was blamed | |||
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"Could remain the title to "Job creation still going ahead while Britain is a member of the EU". You could indeed. But weren't we told by the Establishment that if we voted to leave the EU (as we did) then their would be a Tsunami of jobs leaving the UK (which there hasn't)? Nearly 4 weeks in and apart from a drop in Sterling (which is both positive and negative) there hasn't actually been ONE negative fact since Brexit. Indeed Stock Markets are on an 11 month high. The doom mongers are still forecasting that plague of locusts though .... Open your eyes to what is all around ..recent news ..stop posting bullshit and start with the truth .. House prices to fall in post-Brexit tumble The number of people wanting to buy a house has fallen to the lowest level since mid-2008 amid post-referendum uncertainty, according to the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors. In its residential market survey, which has been carried out since the referendum, 27pc more surveyors polled said that house prices would fall rather than rise across the country in the next three months. " it's nothing to do with post brexit uncertainty, it's the fact that prices are too high. This would have happenned anyway | |||
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"Could remain the title to "Job creation still going ahead while Britain is a member of the EU". You could indeed. But weren't we told by the Establishment that if we voted to leave the EU (as we did) then their would be a Tsunami of jobs leaving the UK (which there hasn't)? Nearly 4 weeks in and apart from a drop in Sterling (which is both positive and negative) there hasn't actually been ONE negative fact since Brexit. Indeed Stock Markets are on an 11 month high. The doom mongers are still forecasting that plague of locusts though .... Open your eyes to what is all around ..recent news ..stop posting bullshit and start with the truth .. House prices to fall in post-Brexit tumble The number of people wanting to buy a house has fallen to the lowest level since mid-2008 amid post-referendum uncertainty, according to the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors. In its residential market survey, which has been carried out since the referendum, 27pc more surveyors polled said that house prices would fall rather than rise across the country in the next three months. it's nothing to do with post brexit uncertainty, it's the fact that prices are too high. This would have happenned anyway" Bury your head if you like it wont stop doom and gloom https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2016/jul/04/stimulus-hopes-markets-ftse-100-construction-business-live?page=with:block-577a5effe4b053f5a3f1509c#block-577a5effe4b053f5a3f1509c | |||
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"Could remain the title to "Job creation still going ahead while Britain is a member of the EU". You could indeed. But weren't we told by the Establishment that if we voted to leave the EU (as we did) then their would be a Tsunami of jobs leaving the UK (which there hasn't)? Nearly 4 weeks in and apart from a drop in Sterling (which is both positive and negative) there hasn't actually been ONE negative fact since Brexit. Indeed Stock Markets are on an 11 month high. The doom mongers are still forecasting that plague of locusts though .... Open your eyes to what is all around ..recent news ..stop posting bullshit and start with the truth .. House prices to fall in post-Brexit tumble The number of people wanting to buy a house has fallen to the lowest level since mid-2008 amid post-referendum uncertainty, according to the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors. In its residential market survey, which has been carried out since the referendum, 27pc more surveyors polled said that house prices would fall rather than rise across the country in the next three months. it's nothing to do with post brexit uncertainty, it's the fact that prices are too high. This would have happenned anyway Bury your head if you like it wont stop doom and gloom https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2016/jul/04/stimulus-hopes-markets-ftse-100-construction-business-live?page=with:block-577a5effe4b053f5a3f1509c#block-577a5effe4b053f5a3f1509c" I'm happy as Larry
it's only the wannabe remainers filled with doom and gloom.
I find it quite amusing or sad really, that they're so pissed off with losing that they are looking for anything that might suggest Brexit is failing and are actually hoping that it does.
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"Could remain the title to "Job creation still going ahead while Britain is a member of the EU". You could indeed. But weren't we told by the Establishment that if we voted to leave the EU (as we did) then their would be a Tsunami of jobs leaving the UK (which there hasn't)? Nearly 4 weeks in and apart from a drop in Sterling (which is both positive and negative) there hasn't actually been ONE negative fact since Brexit. Indeed Stock Markets are on an 11 month high. The doom mongers are still forecasting that plague of locusts though .... Open your eyes to what is all around ..recent news ..stop posting bullshit and start with the truth .. House prices to fall in post-Brexit tumble The number of people wanting to buy a house has fallen to the lowest level since mid-2008 amid post-referendum uncertainty, according to the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors. In its residential market survey, which has been carried out since the referendum, 27pc more surveyors polled said that house prices would fall rather than rise across the country in the next three months. it's nothing to do with post brexit uncertainty, it's the fact that prices are too high. This would have happenned anyway Bury your head if you like it wont stop doom and gloom https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2016/jul/04/stimulus-hopes-markets-ftse-100-construction-business-live?page=with:block-577a5effe4b053f5a3f1509c#block-577a5effe4b053f5a3f1509c I'm happy as Larry
it's only the wannabe remainers filled with doom and gloom.
I find it quite amusing or sad really, that they're so pissed off with losing that they are looking for anything that might suggest Brexit is failing and are actually hoping that it does.
Well I've got some bad news for you, Brexit is here to stay and will be a success so get used to it " | |||
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"Could remain the title to "Job creation still going ahead while Britain is a member of the EU". You could indeed. But weren't we told by the Establishment that if we voted to leave the EU (as we did) then their would be a Tsunami of jobs leaving the UK (which there hasn't)? Nearly 4 weeks in and apart from a drop in Sterling (which is both positive and negative) there hasn't actually been ONE negative fact since Brexit. Indeed Stock Markets are on an 11 month high. The doom mongers are still forecasting that plague of locusts though .... Open your eyes to what is all around ..recent news ..stop posting bullshit and start with the truth .. House prices to fall in post-Brexit tumble The number of people wanting to buy a house has fallen to the lowest level since mid-2008 amid post-referendum uncertainty, according to the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors. In its residential market survey, which has been carried out since the referendum, 27pc more surveyors polled said that house prices would fall rather than rise across the country in the next three months. it's nothing to do with post brexit uncertainty, it's the fact that prices are too high. This would have happenned anyway Bury your head if you like it wont stop doom and gloom https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2016/jul/04/stimulus-hopes-markets-ftse-100-construction-business-live?page=with:block-577a5effe4b053f5a3f1509c#block-577a5effe4b053f5a3f1509c I'm happy as Larry
it's only the wannabe remainers filled with doom and gloom.
I find it quite amusing or sad really, that they're so pissed off with losing that they are looking for anything that might suggest Brexit is failing and are actually hoping that it does.
Well I've got some bad news for you, Brexit is here to stay and will be a success so get used to it "Opposition to brexit get used to it .. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/19/government-awaits-first-legal-opposition-to-brexit-in-high-court?CMP=share_btn_fb | |||
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"Could remain the title to "Job creation still going ahead while Britain is a member of the EU". You could indeed. But weren't we told by the Establishment that if we voted to leave the EU (as we did) then their would be a Tsunami of jobs leaving the UK (which there hasn't)? Nearly 4 weeks in and apart from a drop in Sterling (which is both positive and negative) there hasn't actually been ONE negative fact since Brexit. Indeed Stock Markets are on an 11 month high. The doom mongers are still forecasting that plague of locusts though ...." I think they were referring to when you leave the EU. | |||
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"Could remain the title to "Job creation still going ahead while Britain is a member of the EU". You could indeed. But weren't we told by the Establishment that if we voted to leave the EU (as we did) then their would be a Tsunami of jobs leaving the UK (which there hasn't)? Nearly 4 weeks in and apart from a drop in Sterling (which is both positive and negative) there hasn't actually been ONE negative fact since Brexit. Indeed Stock Markets are on an 11 month high. The doom mongers are still forecasting that plague of locusts though .... Open your eyes to what is all around ..recent news ..stop posting bullshit and start with the truth .. House prices to fall in post-Brexit tumble The number of people wanting to buy a house has fallen to the lowest level since mid-2008 amid post-referendum uncertainty, according to the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors. In its residential market survey, which has been carried out since the referendum, 27pc more surveyors polled said that house prices would fall rather than rise across the country in the next three months. it's nothing to do with post brexit uncertainty, it's the fact that prices are too high. This would have happenned anyway Bury your head if you like it wont stop doom and gloom https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2016/jul/04/stimulus-hopes-markets-ftse-100-construction-business-live?page=with:block-577a5effe4b053f5a3f1509c#block-577a5effe4b053f5a3f1509c I'm happy as Larry
it's only the wannabe remainers filled with doom and gloom.
I find it quite amusing or sad really, that they're so pissed off with losing that they are looking for anything that might suggest Brexit is failing and are actually hoping that it does.
Well I've got some bad news for you, Brexit is here to stay and will be a success so get used to it
Opposition to brexit get used to it ..
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/19/government-awaits-first-legal-opposition-to-brexit-in-high-court?CMP=share_btn_fb
"if you think that means anything u are getting desperate. thought u were a secret brexiter anyway who didn't want any more nasty Brits joining you in your dust bowl idyll? | |||
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" Your slippery grasp of economics seems to have failed you again. Why has the share price fallen? Because the markets believe that the firms will build less houses. If they build less houses, they need less suppliers and less contractors, leading to rising unemployment in the sector. Well yes indeed possibly so. Except for one minor defect in your statement. As the BBC reported the Housebuilders' shares have recovered. and I quote: "UBS has rated the housebuilding sector as a "buy" as it says there is no visible sign of distress in financial system and it does not see any sharp fall in mortgage lending coming." Instead of talking about trade deficits, why don't you take a moment to educate us about individuals. Do the vast majority of the population export anything themselves? Do they import anything? Actually it is precisely the activity of the individuals that creates imports and exports which create deficits and surpluses. And price is important in those individual's decisions. Add duties and it may deter purchases. Reduce Duties and it may incentivise purchases. One persons import is another person's export. How is my 'slippery grasp of economics' doing? It is NOT good that people start having to seek legal advice on if they can see if they can stay in the country or not! How can you possibly see that as a positive? You must either have a very short attention span or you are just on a wind up mission. READ ABOVE /\" tell me what a teacher exports, or what a fireman exports, or what a bus driver exports? Before the referendum, people weren’t worried that they were going to get deported, now they are worried. You said that it was people from FTSE 100 companies, so probably highly mobile skilled talent that must have already moved at least once in their life. People will leave jobs if they think that their residency and ability to work is not secured. So please explain to me why you think that is good. | |||
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" tell me what a teacher exports, or what a fireman exports, or what a bus driver exports? Before the referendum, people weren’t worried that they were going to get deported, now they are worried. You said that it was people from FTSE 100 companies, so probably highly mobile skilled talent that must have already moved at least once in their life. People will leave jobs if they think that their residency and ability to work is not secured. So please explain to me why you think that is good." I really think you need to stop the wind up comments. You know exactly what I meant but seem intent on making silly point scoring comments that mean nothing. Of course those people you mentioned do not export individually. But what I actually said was "One person's import is another person's export" and as you seem incapable of lateral thought this means that when a German bus driver buys a Mini it is a British export.... As for the rest well whatever .... | |||
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" Your slippery grasp of economics seems to have failed you again. Why has the share price fallen? Because the markets believe that the firms will build less houses. If they build less houses, they need less suppliers and less contractors, leading to rising unemployment in the sector. Well yes indeed possibly so. Except for one minor defect in your statement. As the BBC reported the Housebuilders' shares have recovered. and I quote: "UBS has rated the housebuilding sector as a "buy" as it says there is no visible sign of distress in financial system and it does not see any sharp fall in mortgage lending coming." Instead of talking about trade deficits, why don't you take a moment to educate us about individuals. Do the vast majority of the population export anything themselves? Do they import anything? Actually it is precisely the activity of the individuals that creates imports and exports which create deficits and surpluses. And price is important in those individual's decisions. Add duties and it may deter purchases. Reduce Duties and it may incentivise purchases. One persons import is another person's export. How is my 'slippery grasp of economics' doing? It is NOT good that people start having to seek legal advice on if they can see if they can stay in the country or not! How can you possibly see that as a positive? You must either have a very short attention span or you are just on a wind up mission. READ ABOVE /\ tell me what a teacher exports, or what a fireman exports, or what a bus driver exports? Before the referendum, people weren’t worried that they were going to get deported, now they are worried. You said that it was people from FTSE 100 companies, so probably highly mobile skilled talent that must have already moved at least once in their life. People will leave jobs if they think that their residency and ability to work is not secured. So please explain to me why you think that is good." People will be secured if they are taken on and needed, both ways. I have a property in Spain and will retire there in a few years and Brexit worries me not one jot. Countries will make their own rules and arrangements, nothing to do with the EU | |||
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" Brexit is the best thing that this country has done for years and I can't tell if you are narrow minded or just miffed that you chose to back a losing side and coudn't see the obvious advantages both fiscal and political outside of the EU that the majority of the electorate could and now try to make yourself feel better by kidding yourself that you were right. To put down any good news with yeah but no but yeah but is, well, what it is. Rather tiresome and childish" Brexit is awful. The president of the NFU said that it was a “political car crash” The President of the Royal Society said "future prosperity of the UK is at stake.” The IMF: The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has said the UK's decision to leave the European Union has "thrown a spanner in the works" of its global growth forecast. Instead of predicting 3.2% growth in 2016, the IMF's World Economic Outlook (WEO) now expects only 3.1%. It says the UK will be the worst affected of all the advanced economies. Its 2017 UK growth forecast has been slashed from 2.2% to 1.3% and this year's has been cut from 1.9% to 1.7%. The Irish Times "Brexit a bewildering act of self-harm” Professor Matthew Flinders, chair of the Political Studies Association (PSA), says the Government “does not really know where it is going or why” in a blog post discussing the increased insecurity felt by non-UK academics and students, as well as open abuse and racism directed at overseas staff and students. The Government has been accused of “sleepwalking” while the integrity of the UK’s world-class universities is at risk post-Brexit. Michael Dougan said the campaign for the UK to leave the EU was “criminally irresponsible” But I suppose none of this will change your mind. | |||
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" tell me what a teacher exports, or what a fireman exports, or what a bus driver exports? Before the referendum, people weren’t worried that they were going to get deported, now they are worried. You said that it was people from FTSE 100 companies, so probably highly mobile skilled talent that must have already moved at least once in their life. People will leave jobs if they think that their residency and ability to work is not secured. So please explain to me why you think that is good. I really think you need to stop the wind up comments. You know exactly what I meant but seem intent on making silly point scoring comments that mean nothing. Of course those people you mentioned do not export individually. But what I actually said was "One person's import is another person's export" and as you seem incapable of lateral thought this means that when a German bus driver buys a Mini it is a British export.... As for the rest well whatever .... "Im not deliberately winding up. I am trying to communicate to you, that the vast majority of the UK population, do not export anything. They don’t. They work domestically, produce domestically and so will not benefit from a low value on sterling. They do import their phones, food, clothes, electrical goods etc. etc. so they will lose out from a weak pound. Is that really such a difficult concept? | |||
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" Your slippery grasp of economics seems to have failed you again. Why has the share price fallen? Because the markets believe that the firms will build less houses. If they build less houses, they need less suppliers and less contractors, leading to rising unemployment in the sector. Well yes indeed possibly so. Except for one minor defect in your statement. As the BBC reported the Housebuilders' shares have recovered. and I quote: "UBS has rated the housebuilding sector as a "buy" as it says there is no visible sign of distress in financial system and it does not see any sharp fall in mortgage lending coming." Instead of talking about trade deficits, why don't you take a moment to educate us about individuals. Do the vast majority of the population export anything themselves? Do they import anything? Actually it is precisely the activity of the individuals that creates imports and exports which create deficits and surpluses. And price is important in those individual's decisions. Add duties and it may deter purchases. Reduce Duties and it may incentivise purchases. One persons import is another person's export. How is my 'slippery grasp of economics' doing? It is NOT good that people start having to seek legal advice on if they can see if they can stay in the country or not! How can you possibly see that as a positive? You must either have a very short attention span or you are just on a wind up mission. READ ABOVE /\ tell me what a teacher exports, or what a fireman exports, or what a bus driver exports? Before the referendum, people weren’t worried that they were going to get deported, now they are worried. You said that it was people from FTSE 100 companies, so probably highly mobile skilled talent that must have already moved at least once in their life. People will leave jobs if they think that their residency and ability to work is not secured. So please explain to me why you think that is good. People will be secured if they are taken on and needed, both ways. I have a property in Spain and will retire there in a few years and Brexit worries me not one jot. Countries will make their own rules and arrangements, nothing to do with the EU" If they are seeking legal advice, they are not feeling very secure are they? If we get rid of free movement of labour, the will no longer have the RIGHT to work here. They can apply, but if there is a cap then there might already be too many people here, or although the business might want them, then government might have placed barriers in the way, so they are not at all secure. | |||
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" Your slippery grasp of economics seems to have failed you again. Why has the share price fallen? Because the markets believe that the firms will build less houses. If they build less houses, they need less suppliers and less contractors, leading to rising unemployment in the sector. Well yes indeed possibly so. Except for one minor defect in your statement. As the BBC reported the Housebuilders' shares have recovered. and I quote: "UBS has rated the housebuilding sector as a "buy" as it says there is no visible sign of distress in financial system and it does not see any sharp fall in mortgage lending coming." Instead of talking about trade deficits, why don't you take a moment to educate us about individuals. Do the vast majority of the population export anything themselves? Do they import anything? Actually it is precisely the activity of the individuals that creates imports and exports which create deficits and surpluses. And price is important in those individual's decisions. Add duties and it may deter purchases. Reduce Duties and it may incentivise purchases. One persons import is another person's export. How is my 'slippery grasp of economics' doing? It is NOT good that people start having to seek legal advice on if they can see if they can stay in the country or not! How can you possibly see that as a positive? You must either have a very short attention span or you are just on a wind up mission. READ ABOVE /\ tell me what a teacher exports, or what a fireman exports, or what a bus driver exports? Before the referendum, people weren’t worried that they were going to get deported, now they are worried. You said that it was people from FTSE 100 companies, so probably highly mobile skilled talent that must have already moved at least once in their life. People will leave jobs if they think that their residency and ability to work is not secured. So please explain to me why you think that is good. People will be secured if they are taken on and needed, both ways. I have a property in Spain and will retire there in a few years and Brexit worries me not one jot. Countries will make their own rules and arrangements, nothing to do with the EU" Blimey that is burying your head in the sand its not just about the host nation you wish to live in its also about reciprocal health pension and death duties and as for being allowed to retire to Spain even the British embassy in Madrid will mot comment beyond 2yrs ... | |||
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" Your slippery grasp of economics seems to have failed you again. Why has the share price fallen? Because the markets believe that the firms will build less houses. If they build less houses, they need less suppliers and less contractors, leading to rising unemployment in the sector. Well yes indeed possibly so. Except for one minor defect in your statement. As the BBC reported the Housebuilders' shares have recovered. and I quote: "UBS has rated the housebuilding sector as a "buy" as it says there is no visible sign of distress in financial system and it does not see any sharp fall in mortgage lending coming." Instead of talking about trade deficits, why don't you take a moment to educate us about individuals. Do the vast majority of the population export anything themselves? Do they import anything? Actually it is precisely the activity of the individuals that creates imports and exports which create deficits and surpluses. And price is important in those individual's decisions. Add duties and it may deter purchases. Reduce Duties and it may incentivise purchases. One persons import is another person's export. How is my 'slippery grasp of economics' doing? It is NOT good that people start having to seek legal advice on if they can see if they can stay in the country or not! How can you possibly see that as a positive? You must either have a very short attention span or you are just on a wind up mission. READ ABOVE /\ tell me what a teacher exports, or what a fireman exports, or what a bus driver exports? Before the referendum, people weren’t worried that they were going to get deported, now they are worried. You said that it was people from FTSE 100 companies, so probably highly mobile skilled talent that must have already moved at least once in their life. People will leave jobs if they think that their residency and ability to work is not secured. So please explain to me why you think that is good. People will be secured if they are taken on and needed, both ways. I have a property in Spain and will retire there in a few years and Brexit worries me not one jot. Countries will make their own rules and arrangements, nothing to do with the EU If they are seeking legal advice, they are not feeling very secure are they? If we get rid of free movement of labour, the will no longer have the RIGHT to work here. They can apply, but if there is a cap then there might already be too many people here, or although the business might want them, then government might have placed barriers in the way, so they are not at all secure." nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. | |||
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" Your slippery grasp of economics seems to have failed you again. Why has the share price fallen? Because the markets believe that the firms will build less houses. If they build less houses, they need less suppliers and less contractors, leading to rising unemployment in the sector. Well yes indeed possibly so. Except for one minor defect in your statement. As the BBC reported the Housebuilders' shares have recovered. and I quote: "UBS has rated the housebuilding sector as a "buy" as it says there is no visible sign of distress in financial system and it does not see any sharp fall in mortgage lending coming." Instead of talking about trade deficits, why don't you take a moment to educate us about individuals. Do the vast majority of the population export anything themselves? Do they import anything? Actually it is precisely the activity of the individuals that creates imports and exports which create deficits and surpluses. And price is important in those individual's decisions. Add duties and it may deter purchases. Reduce Duties and it may incentivise purchases. One persons import is another person's export. How is my 'slippery grasp of economics' doing? It is NOT good that people start having to seek legal advice on if they can see if they can stay in the country or not! How can you possibly see that as a positive? You must either have a very short attention span or you are just on a wind up mission. READ ABOVE /\ tell me what a teacher exports, or what a fireman exports, or what a bus driver exports? Before the referendum, people weren’t worried that they were going to get deported, now they are worried. You said that it was people from FTSE 100 companies, so probably highly mobile skilled talent that must have already moved at least once in their life. People will leave jobs if they think that their residency and ability to work is not secured. So please explain to me why you think that is good. People will be secured if they are taken on and needed, both ways. I have a property in Spain and will retire there in a few years and Brexit worries me not one jot. Countries will make their own rules and arrangements, nothing to do with the EU If they are seeking legal advice, they are not feeling very secure are they? If we get rid of free movement of labour, the will no longer have the RIGHT to work here. They can apply, but if there is a cap then there might already be too many people here, or although the business might want them, then government might have placed barriers in the way, so they are not at all secure. nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. " That is a right that I have had since birth. Hundreds of millions of people of Europe have this right, but 17 million think that its ok to take it away. | |||
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" Your slippery grasp of economics seems to have failed you again. Why has the share price fallen? Because the markets believe that the firms will build less houses. If they build less houses, they need less suppliers and less contractors, leading to rising unemployment in the sector. Well yes indeed possibly so. Except for one minor defect in your statement. As the BBC reported the Housebuilders' shares have recovered. and I quote: "UBS has rated the housebuilding sector as a "buy" as it says there is no visible sign of distress in financial system and it does not see any sharp fall in mortgage lending coming." Instead of talking about trade deficits, why don't you take a moment to educate us about individuals. Do the vast majority of the population export anything themselves? Do they import anything? Actually it is precisely the activity of the individuals that creates imports and exports which create deficits and surpluses. And price is important in those individual's decisions. Add duties and it may deter purchases. Reduce Duties and it may incentivise purchases. One persons import is another person's export. How is my 'slippery grasp of economics' doing? It is NOT good that people start having to seek legal advice on if they can see if they can stay in the country or not! How can you possibly see that as a positive? You must either have a very short attention span or you are just on a wind up mission. READ ABOVE /\ tell me what a teacher exports, or what a fireman exports, or what a bus driver exports? Before the referendum, people weren’t worried that they were going to get deported, now they are worried. You said that it was people from FTSE 100 companies, so probably highly mobile skilled talent that must have already moved at least once in their life. People will leave jobs if they think that their residency and ability to work is not secured. So please explain to me why you think that is good. People will be secured if they are taken on and needed, both ways. I have a property in Spain and will retire there in a few years and Brexit worries me not one jot. Countries will make their own rules and arrangements, nothing to do with the EU If they are seeking legal advice, they are not feeling very secure are they? If we get rid of free movement of labour, the will no longer have the RIGHT to work here. They can apply, but if there is a cap then there might already be too many people here, or although the business might want them, then government might have placed barriers in the way, so they are not at all secure. nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. " Take it your of the opinion nobody has the right to retire in another country either ? | |||
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" Your slippery grasp of economics seems to have failed you again. Why has the share price fallen? Because the markets believe that the firms will build less houses. If they build less houses, they need less suppliers and less contractors, leading to rising unemployment in the sector. Well yes indeed possibly so. Except for one minor defect in your statement. As the BBC reported the Housebuilders' shares have recovered. and I quote: "UBS has rated the housebuilding sector as a "buy" as it says there is no visible sign of distress in financial system and it does not see any sharp fall in mortgage lending coming." Instead of talking about trade deficits, why don't you take a moment to educate us about individuals. Do the vast majority of the population export anything themselves? Do they import anything? Actually it is precisely the activity of the individuals that creates imports and exports which create deficits and surpluses. And price is important in those individual's decisions. Add duties and it may deter purchases. Reduce Duties and it may incentivise purchases. One persons import is another person's export. How is my 'slippery grasp of economics' doing? It is NOT good that people start having to seek legal advice on if they can see if they can stay in the country or not! How can you possibly see that as a positive? You must either have a very short attention span or you are just on a wind up mission. READ ABOVE /\ tell me what a teacher exports, or what a fireman exports, or what a bus driver exports? Before the referendum, people weren’t worried that they were going to get deported, now they are worried. You said that it was people from FTSE 100 companies, so probably highly mobile skilled talent that must have already moved at least once in their life. People will leave jobs if they think that their residency and ability to work is not secured. So please explain to me why you think that is good. People will be secured if they are taken on and needed, both ways. I have a property in Spain and will retire there in a few years and Brexit worries me not one jot. Countries will make their own rules and arrangements, nothing to do with the EU If they are seeking legal advice, they are not feeling very secure are they? If we get rid of free movement of labour, the will no longer have the RIGHT to work here. They can apply, but if there is a cap then there might already be too many people here, or although the business might want them, then government might have placed barriers in the way, so they are not at all secure. nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. That is a right that I have had since birth. Hundreds of millions of people of Europe have this right, but 17 million think that its ok to take it away. " thats because the majority have more sense. All you have now is the right to be exploited. People have always moved around Europe to work and always will. If you have a skill that is needed abroad, as simple as say being able to speak English in an English bar, you will get the job. The problem at the moment is that EU nationals are being exploited in this country and I'm sure you care but you obviously have no experience of it | |||
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"... for the Remain camp and those who are still peddling Project Fear: Reed Employment have just posted details of new job vacancies post the EU Referendum decision. 150,000 of them: Education - 13,000 IT/Telecoms - 12,000 Sales - 11,000 Accountancy - 10,000 Engineering - 8,000 As the big numbers. And it is spread all over the UK. In further distressing news KPMG are reporting growing numbers of FTSE bosses seeking 'Right to Remain' for them and their staff in the UK. KPMG head of Immigration Services, Punam Birly said "We have seen a tripling of demand for our immigration law services." Breaking News just in: It is reported that 160 companies in the 'North East Automotive Alliance' with an annual turnover of over £9.5 Billion spent a full 3 minutes discussing Brexit in a 2 hour meeting. French owned Mecaplast General Manager said to day: "The Uk makes good cars and it will continue making good cars. That's what matters so I am upbeat" Sadly we now have to report that in the days after the vote searches for flights from the USA to the UK doubled; from China jumped 61%; Canada up 49% indicating a huge boom in tourism in the UK. Even bookings from the EU area are up 17%.... Over and above what was a record year last year. There is growing concern among the Remain camp as the FTSE 100, 250 and 350s reach 11 month highs, UK Government bonds in high demand with record low yields and no need for lower interest rates.
Those aren’t new jobs created as a result of Brexit, those are just jobs that are available at anytime as part of a regular turnover of staff.
Why do you see it as a good thing that there is a tripling of highly skilled talent seeking legal advice to see if they can remain in the country?
Of course tourists come when your currency crashes to a 30 year low like has happened to the pound. Thats because overnight we have become significantly cheaper. Great if you work in the tourist industry, but fairly rubbish if you don’t, but rely on imports in this highly connected world that we live in, especially for daily essentials such as food. As reported "NFU president Meurig Raymond said the referendum result was a “political car crash”, and warned that the UK’s dependence on imports combined with a weakened pound would mean the country could expect to see the price of food go up.” But what would the NFU know about farming?
Look at shares in major house builders like Barratt, they have lost 30% of their value since the referendum result, and 25% for Persimmon. Try telling them and all of their contractor, sub-contractor and suppliers how good Brexit is."The British Tourism Industry is worth about 10% of GDP, with about 3 Million jobs supported. It's estimated that for every 1% increase in tourism expenditure, employment increases by 0.89%. C/o visitbritain.org | |||
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" Your slippery grasp of economics seems to have failed you again. Why has the share price fallen? Because the markets believe that the firms will build less houses. If they build less houses, they need less suppliers and less contractors, leading to rising unemployment in the sector. Well yes indeed possibly so. Except for one minor defect in your statement. As the BBC reported the Housebuilders' shares have recovered. and I quote: "UBS has rated the housebuilding sector as a "buy" as it says there is no visible sign of distress in financial system and it does not see any sharp fall in mortgage lending coming." Instead of talking about trade deficits, why don't you take a moment to educate us about individuals. Do the vast majority of the population export anything themselves? Do they import anything? Actually it is precisely the activity of the individuals that creates imports and exports which create deficits and surpluses. And price is important in those individual's decisions. Add duties and it may deter purchases. Reduce Duties and it may incentivise purchases. One persons import is another person's export. How is my 'slippery grasp of economics' doing? It is NOT good that people start having to seek legal advice on if they can see if they can stay in the country or not! How can you possibly see that as a positive? You must either have a very short attention span or you are just on a wind up mission. READ ABOVE /\ tell me what a teacher exports, or what a fireman exports, or what a bus driver exports? Before the referendum, people weren’t worried that they were going to get deported, now they are worried. You said that it was people from FTSE 100 companies, so probably highly mobile skilled talent that must have already moved at least once in their life. People will leave jobs if they think that their residency and ability to work is not secured. So please explain to me why you think that is good. People will be secured if they are taken on and needed, both ways. I have a property in Spain and will retire there in a few years and Brexit worries me not one jot. Countries will make their own rules and arrangements, nothing to do with the EU If they are seeking legal advice, they are not feeling very secure are they? If we get rid of free movement of labour, the will no longer have the RIGHT to work here. They can apply, but if there is a cap then there might already be too many people here, or although the business might want them, then government might have placed barriers in the way, so they are not at all secure. nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. Take it your of the opinion nobody has the right to retire in another country either ?" if they can't support themselves of course not  | |||
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" Your slippery grasp of economics seems to have failed you again. Why has the share price fallen? Because the markets believe that the firms will build less houses. If they build less houses, they need less suppliers and less contractors, leading to rising unemployment in the sector. Well yes indeed possibly so. Except for one minor defect in your statement. As the BBC reported the Housebuilders' shares have recovered. and I quote: "UBS has rated the housebuilding sector as a "buy" as it says there is no visible sign of distress in financial system and it does not see any sharp fall in mortgage lending coming." Instead of talking about trade deficits, why don't you take a moment to educate us about individuals. Do the vast majority of the population export anything themselves? Do they import anything? Actually it is precisely the activity of the individuals that creates imports and exports which create deficits and surpluses. And price is important in those individual's decisions. Add duties and it may deter purchases. Reduce Duties and it may incentivise purchases. One persons import is another person's export. How is my 'slippery grasp of economics' doing? It is NOT good that people start having to seek legal advice on if they can see if they can stay in the country or not! How can you possibly see that as a positive? You must either have a very short attention span or you are just on a wind up mission. READ ABOVE /\ tell me what a teacher exports, or what a fireman exports, or what a bus driver exports? Before the referendum, people weren’t worried that they were going to get deported, now they are worried. You said that it was people from FTSE 100 companies, so probably highly mobile skilled talent that must have already moved at least once in their life. People will leave jobs if they think that their residency and ability to work is not secured. So please explain to me why you think that is good. People will be secured if they are taken on and needed, both ways. I have a property in Spain and will retire there in a few years and Brexit worries me not one jot. Countries will make their own rules and arrangements, nothing to do with the EU If they are seeking legal advice, they are not feeling very secure are they? If we get rid of free movement of labour, the will no longer have the RIGHT to work here. They can apply, but if there is a cap then there might already be too many people here, or although the business might want them, then government might have placed barriers in the way, so they are not at all secure. nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. Take it your of the opinion nobody has the right to retire in another country either ? if they can't support themselves of course not "Even if they can what government wants to turn their country into gods waiting room ..... | |||
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" Your slippery grasp of economics seems to have failed you again. Why has the share price fallen? Because the markets believe that the firms will build less houses. If they build less houses, they need less suppliers and less contractors, leading to rising unemployment in the sector. Well yes indeed possibly so. Except for one minor defect in your statement. As the BBC reported the Housebuilders' shares have recovered. and I quote: "UBS has rated the housebuilding sector as a "buy" as it says there is no visible sign of distress in financial system and it does not see any sharp fall in mortgage lending coming." Instead of talking about trade deficits, why don't you take a moment to educate us about individuals. Do the vast majority of the population export anything themselves? Do they import anything? Actually it is precisely the activity of the individuals that creates imports and exports which create deficits and surpluses. And price is important in those individual's decisions. Add duties and it may deter purchases. Reduce Duties and it may incentivise purchases. One persons import is another person's export. How is my 'slippery grasp of economics' doing? It is NOT good that people start having to seek legal advice on if they can see if they can stay in the country or not! How can you possibly see that as a positive? You must either have a very short attention span or you are just on a wind up mission. READ ABOVE /\ tell me what a teacher exports, or what a fireman exports, or what a bus driver exports? Before the referendum, people weren’t worried that they were going to get deported, now they are worried. You said that it was people from FTSE 100 companies, so probably highly mobile skilled talent that must have already moved at least once in their life. People will leave jobs if they think that their residency and ability to work is not secured. So please explain to me why you think that is good. People will be secured if they are taken on and needed, both ways. I have a property in Spain and will retire there in a few years and Brexit worries me not one jot. Countries will make their own rules and arrangements, nothing to do with the EU If they are seeking legal advice, they are not feeling very secure are they? If we get rid of free movement of labour, the will no longer have the RIGHT to work here. They can apply, but if there is a cap then there might already be too many people here, or although the business might want them, then government might have placed barriers in the way, so they are not at all secure. nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. Take it your of the opinion nobody has the right to retire in another country either ? if they can't support themselves of course not
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. " It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting." ffs get over yourself and THINK before you speak | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting." I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth ... This may come as a shock but you have no RIGHT to anything in another country. | |||
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" Your slippery grasp of economics seems to have failed you again. Why has the share price fallen? Because the markets believe that the firms will build less houses. If they build less houses, they need less suppliers and less contractors, leading to rising unemployment in the sector. Well yes indeed possibly so. Except for one minor defect in your statement. As the BBC reported the Housebuilders' shares have recovered. and I quote: "UBS has rated the housebuilding sector as a "buy" as it says there is no visible sign of distress in financial system and it does not see any sharp fall in mortgage lending coming." Instead of talking about trade deficits, why don't you take a moment to educate us about individuals. Do the vast majority of the population export anything themselves? Do they import anything? Actually it is precisely the activity of the individuals that creates imports and exports which create deficits and surpluses. And price is important in those individual's decisions. Add duties and it may deter purchases. Reduce Duties and it may incentivise purchases. One persons import is another person's export. How is my 'slippery grasp of economics' doing? It is NOT good that people start having to seek legal advice on if they can see if they can stay in the country or not! How can you possibly see that as a positive? You must either have a very short attention span or you are just on a wind up mission. READ ABOVE /\ tell me what a teacher exports, or what a fireman exports, or what a bus driver exports? Before the referendum, people weren’t worried that they were going to get deported, now they are worried. You said that it was people from FTSE 100 companies, so probably highly mobile skilled talent that must have already moved at least once in their life. People will leave jobs if they think that their residency and ability to work is not secured. So please explain to me why you think that is good. People will be secured if they are taken on and needed, both ways. I have a property in Spain and will retire there in a few years and Brexit worries me not one jot. Countries will make their own rules and arrangements, nothing to do with the EU If they are seeking legal advice, they are not feeling very secure are they? If we get rid of free movement of labour, the will no longer have the RIGHT to work here. They can apply, but if there is a cap then there might already be too many people here, or although the business might want them, then government might have placed barriers in the way, so they are not at all secure. nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. That is a right that I have had since birth. Hundreds of millions of people of Europe have this right, but 17 million think that its ok to take it away. " Fuck off and live with the 435million who will be remaining (for now)with the EU if you love it so much. I'll settle for the mixed and varied cultures of the other 5.5bn people on the planet. Remainers are so xenophobic and racist. Whoops, keeping out of it. *sneeks quietly away again | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth ...." Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer." Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... " Remind me. What nationality are you? | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you?" I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago " So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British." what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .." As you hate it so much why keep the passport? Easy question to answer. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .." But you don't live here any more. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. But you don't live here any more. "I lived in the UK for 55 years and grew to realise my mind isn't that tiny I have to stay in any one place till I die there's a whole world out there ..i hold a British passport so mh I have outside the UK more years than I lived in side it sorry but I'm British I am ashamed of my birth place at the moment and will continue to post my views ..when you have lived there as long as I did I may take notice of your opinions .. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. But you don't live here any more. I lived in the UK for 55 years and grew to realise my mind isn't that tiny I have to stay in any one place till I die there's a whole world out there ..i hold a British passport so mh I have outside the UK more years than I lived in side it sorry but I'm British I am ashamed of my birth place at the moment and will continue to post my views ..when you have lived there as long as I did I may take notice of your opinions .."I see. You're older so know more. My dad is older than you so he must know more than you. Would that be correct? | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. As you hate it so much why keep the passport? Easy question to answer." How thick are you ? Very easy question to answer ....I've tried giving it away but bog paper is In plentiful supply over here | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. But you don't live here any more. I lived in the UK for 55 years and grew to realise my mind isn't that tiny I have to stay in any one place till I die there's a whole world out there ..i hold a British passport so mh I have outside the UK more years than I lived in side it sorry but I'm British I am ashamed of my birth place at the moment and will continue to post my views ..when you have lived there as long as I did I may take notice of your opinions ..
I see. You're older so know more. My dad is older than you so he must know more than you. Would that be correct?"What's his user name on this forum ..or doesn't the asylum let him have one | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. But you don't live here any more. I lived in the UK for 55 years and grew to realise my mind isn't that tiny I have to stay in any one place till I die there's a whole world out there ..i hold a British passport so mh I have outside the UK more years than I lived in side it sorry but I'm British I am ashamed of my birth place at the moment and will continue to post my views ..when you have lived there as long as I did I may take notice of your opinions .."I live in Spain and England
and I'm almost as old
and your views on Britain? Well, toma por culo
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. As you hate it so much why keep the passport? Easy question to answer. How thick are you ? Very easy question to answer ....I've tried giving it away but bog paper is In plentiful supply over here " Thats not very polite. Come on, why don't you get rid of your English passport and get a nice Spanish one that will keep you in the EU. I know plenty of expats with Spanish and English passports so its easy enough to do. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. As you hate it so much why keep the passport? Easy question to answer. How thick are you ? Very easy question to answer ....I've tried giving it away but bog paper is In plentiful supply over here Thats not very polite. Come on, why don't you get rid of your English passport and get a nice Spanish one that will keep you in the EU. I know plenty of expats with Spanish and English passports so its easy enough to do." I've been here less than a year and no its not easy to get one ..check the web site..instead of trolling the forums for once | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. But you don't live here any more. I lived in the UK for 55 years and grew to realise my mind isn't that tiny I have to stay in any one place till I die there's a whole world out there ..i hold a British passport so mh I have outside the UK more years than I lived in side it sorry but I'm British I am ashamed of my birth place at the moment and will continue to post my views ..when you have lived there as long as I did I may take notice of your opinions ..
I live in Spain and England
and I'm almost as old
and your views on Britain? Well, toma por culo
to be born an Englishmam is to win the lottery of life "Wow you do have low expectations of a lottery win ..that would be a bit like winning the health lottery ..im after the euro millions ..maybe my expectations are higher | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. But you don't live here any more. I lived in the UK for 55 years and grew to realise my mind isn't that tiny I have to stay in any one place till I die there's a whole world out there ..i hold a British passport so mh I have outside the UK more years than I lived in side it sorry but I'm British I am ashamed of my birth place at the moment and will continue to post my views ..when you have lived there as long as I did I may take notice of your opinions ..
I live in Spain and England
and I'm almost as old
and your views on Britain? Well, toma por culo
to be born an Englishmam is to win the lottery of life
Wow you do have low expectations of a lottery win ..that would be a bit like winning the health lottery ..im after the euro millions ..maybe my expectations are higher "living in a dust bowl? Not | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. As you hate it so much why keep the passport? Easy question to answer. How thick are you ? Very easy question to answer ....I've tried giving it away but bog paper is In plentiful supply over here Thats not very polite. Come on, why don't you get rid of your English passport and get a nice Spanish one that will keep you in the EU. I know plenty of expats with Spanish and English passports so its easy enough to do. because he's not legal there, had this before . Can't even take advantage of any benefits the EU offer"Now I've warned you before about spreading personal lies about me so retracted that last post .. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. But you don't live here any more. I lived in the UK for 55 years and grew to realise my mind isn't that tiny I have to stay in any one place till I die there's a whole world out there ..i hold a British passport so mh I have outside the UK more years than I lived in side it sorry but I'm British I am ashamed of my birth place at the moment and will continue to post my views ..when you have lived there as long as I did I may take notice of your opinions ..
I live in Spain and England
and I'm almost as old
and your views on Britain? Well, toma por culo
to be born an Englishmam is to win the lottery of life
Wow you do have low expectations of a lottery win ..that would be a bit like winning the health lottery ..im after the euro millions ..maybe my expectations are higher
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. As you hate it so much why keep the passport? Easy question to answer. How thick are you ? Very easy question to answer ....I've tried giving it away but bog paper is In plentiful supply over here Thats not very polite. Come on, why don't you get rid of your English passport and get a nice Spanish one that will keep you in the EU. I know plenty of expats with Spanish and English passports so its easy enough to do. because he's not legal there, had this before . Can't even take advantage of any benefits the EU offer
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. As you hate it so much why keep the passport? Easy question to answer. How thick are you ? Very easy question to answer ....I've tried giving it away but bog paper is In plentiful supply over here Thats not very polite. Come on, why don't you get rid of your English passport and get a nice Spanish one that will keep you in the EU. I know plenty of expats with Spanish and English passports so its easy enough to do. because he's not legal there, had this before . Can't even take advantage of any benefits the EU offer
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. As you hate it so much why keep the passport? Easy question to answer. How thick are you ? Very easy question to answer ....I've tried giving it away but bog paper is In plentiful supply over here Thats not very polite. Come on, why don't you get rid of your English passport and get a nice Spanish one that will keep you in the EU. I know plenty of expats with Spanish and English passports so its easy enough to do. because he's not legal there, had this before . Can't even take advantage of any benefits the EU offer
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. But you don't live here any more. I lived in the UK for 55 years and grew to realise my mind isn't that tiny I have to stay in any one place till I die there's a whole world out there ..i hold a British passport so mh I have outside the UK more years than I lived in side it sorry but I'm British I am ashamed of my birth place at the moment and will continue to post my views ..when you have lived there as long as I did I may take notice of your opinions .."I,v lived in the UK all my life 59 years but I did,nt turn my back on my own country. We had a democratic vote on the EU the majority voted to leave accept it. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. But you don't live here any more. I lived in the UK for 55 years and grew to realise my mind isn't that tiny I have to stay in any one place till I die there's a whole world out there ..i hold a British passport so mh I have outside the UK more years than I lived in side it sorry but I'm British I am ashamed of my birth place at the moment and will continue to post my views ..when you have lived there as long as I did I may take notice of your opinions ..
I,v lived in the UK all my life 59 years but I did,nt turn my back on my own country. We had a democratic vote on the EU the majority voted to leave accept it. "were not all brexit sheep ..euro sceptics were whinging for over 20 years and never accepted the EU so why should we accept leaving..a pro European is a pro European not a brexiter get over it and accepted are not all the same | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth ... This may come as a shock but you have no RIGHT to anything in another country." Yes I do have that RIGHT. You might have voted to take that away, but we haven't left yet, might not leave, and even if we do leave, we might still have freedom of movement. Following your logic someone from Wales shouldn't have the right to live and work in Scotland! Also these immigrants made the country RICHER not poorer. You don't seem to know the first thing about the economy although you gob off about it all the time thinking you know more than every financial institution in the world. All of whom have said that Brexit will damage our economy. Just yesterday the IMF reduced our growth forecast, but yoi think so little of these world institutions that you think that the EU has paid them off just to say that. Immigration of working people is vital to help us with an ageing population. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. But you don't live here any more. I lived in the UK for 55 years and grew to realise my mind isn't that tiny I have to stay in any one place till I die there's a whole world out there ..i hold a British passport so mh I have outside the UK more years than I lived in side it sorry but I'm British I am ashamed of my birth place at the moment and will continue to post my views ..when you have lived there as long as I did I may take notice of your opinions ..
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"And yet more disastrous news!!! After saying that leaving the European Union could trigger a UK recession, the International Monetary Fund now expects the British economy to grow by 1.7 per cent this year and 1.3 per cent next year. IMF managing director Christine Lagarde (who is to stand trial in France for alleged negligence over a €404m payment to a businessman in 2008) and best buddy of fellow doom-monger George Osborne, said Brexit would be ‘pretty bad, to very, very bad’ for the UK. Osborne has now signed himself up onto the US lecture circuit where he will be paid $100,000 per speech. As Cameron (now relocated to his £17 million house) once said: "We are all in it together". " Osborne wont last in the states, the yanks are not as tolerant as us, after one speech he will be Gralloch'd just like a buck | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. As you hate it so much why keep the passport? Easy question to answer. How thick are you ? Very easy question to answer ....I've tried giving it away but bog paper is In plentiful supply over here Thats not very polite. Come on, why don't you get rid of your English passport and get a nice Spanish one that will keep you in the EU. I know plenty of expats with Spanish and English passports so its easy enough to do. I've been here less than a year and no its not easy to get one ..check the web site..instead of trolling the forums for once " How would I know how long you've lived there. I'm not your keeper. Hopefully you can get a passport soon but in the interim all you need to do is avoid all things British then your anger will suside. Although it is the mature of our great country that has given you the means to retire where you are. But one very mute point. Given your obvious hate of Britain and all things British, don't you think maybe all your opinions are biased to the point of wishing Britain harm and therefore completely irrelevant. Just a thought. | |||
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"The Bank of England today put out a statement saying there is no evidence of a slow down in the economy since the vote. Bugger. Whatever next" Carney should resign. But as he earns £1 million a year to talk pro-EU and other crap he'll carry on taking the money. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. But you don't live here any more. I lived in the UK for 55 years and grew to realise my mind isn't that tiny I have to stay in any one place till I die there's a whole world out there ..i hold a British passport so mh I have outside the UK more years than I lived in side it sorry but I'm British I am ashamed of my birth place at the moment and will continue to post my views ..when you have lived there as long as I did I may take notice of your opinions ..
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"Three important Countries of Uk voted to Remain Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibralter (96% voted to remain)... people might say vote is Democratic fine then if its Democratic then allow these parts to decide if they wish to stay with UK now before Brexit happens. " They cant remain we joined the EU as the UK we must leave the EU as the UK. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. But you don't live here any more. I lived in the UK for 55 years and grew to realise my mind isn't that tiny I have to stay in any one place till I die there's a whole world out there ..i hold a British passport so mh I have outside the UK more years than I lived in side it sorry but I'm British I am ashamed of my birth place at the moment and will continue to post my views ..when you have lived there as long as I did I may take notice of your opinions ..
I,v lived in the UK all my life 59 years but I did,nt turn my back on my own country. We had a democratic vote on the EU the majority voted to leave accept it.
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51.9% of those who bothered to vote voted leave accept it. "It was a 72% turnout, the biggest turnout for any election since the early 1990's. Cameron kept the registration date open for an extra 2 days so more people could register to vote before the deadline. George Galloway said on Question Time the other week more people voted to leave the EU (17 and a half million of them) than have ever voted for anything else ever in the history of UK elections. Democracy has been served and the result is clear 52% Leave 48% Remain The whinging, bitching and moaning from the remainers is wearing a bit thin now, but at the end of the day their protestations are nothing more than hot air. The new Prime Minister Theresa May is committed to brexit, the Conservative government is committed to brexit and Theresa May has put a capable brexit team in place with Boris Johnson, Liam Fox and David Davis. Britain is leaving the EU so the sooner everyone accepts it the better. | |||
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"And yet more disastrous news!!! After saying that leaving the European Union could trigger a UK recession, the International Monetary Fund now expects the British economy to grow by 1.7 per cent this year and 1.3 per cent next year. IMF managing director Christine Lagarde (who is to stand trial in France for alleged negligence over a €404m payment to a businessman in 2008) and best buddy of fellow doom-monger George Osborne, said Brexit would be ‘pretty bad, to very, very bad’ for the UK. Osborne has now signed himself up onto the US lecture circuit where he will be paid $100,000 per speech. As Cameron (now relocated to his £17 million house) once said: "We are all in it together". " So the claims Osborne and Cameron were making about a Brexit recession were bullshit then. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. But you don't live here any more. I lived in the UK for 55 years and grew to realise my mind isn't that tiny I have to stay in any one place till I die there's a whole world out there ..i hold a British passport so mh I have outside the UK more years than I lived in side it sorry but I'm British I am ashamed of my birth place at the moment and will continue to post my views ..when you have lived there as long as I did I may take notice of your opinions ..
I,v lived in the UK all my life 59 years but I did,nt turn my back on my own country. We had a democratic vote on the EU the majority voted to leave accept it.
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51.9% of those who bothered to vote voted leave accept it.
It was a 72% turnout, the biggest turnout for any election since the early 1990's. Cameron kept the registration date open for an extra 2 days so more people could register to vote before the deadline. George Galloway said on Question Time the other week more people voted to leave the EU (17 and a half million of them) than have ever voted for anything else ever in the history of UK elections. Democracy has been served and the result is clear
52% Leave
48% Remain
The whinging, bitching and moaning from the remainers is wearing a bit thin now, but at the end of the day their protestations are nothing more than hot air. The new Prime Minister Theresa May is committed to brexit, the Conservative government is committed to brexit and Theresa May has put a capable brexit team in place with Boris Johnson, Liam Fox and David Davis. Britain is leaving the EU so the sooner everyone accepts it the better. " | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. But you don't live here any more. I lived in the UK for 55 years and grew to realise my mind isn't that tiny I have to stay in any one place till I die there's a whole world out there ..i hold a British passport so mh I have outside the UK more years than I lived in side it sorry but I'm British I am ashamed of my birth place at the moment and will continue to post my views ..when you have lived there as long as I did I may take notice of your opinions ..
I,v lived in the UK all my life 59 years but I did,nt turn my back on my own country. We had a democratic vote on the EU the majority voted to leave accept it.
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51.9% of those who bothered to vote voted leave accept it.
It was a 72% turnout, the biggest turnout for any election since the early 1990's. Cameron kept the registration date open for an extra 2 days so more people could register to vote before the deadline. George Galloway said on Question Time the other week more people voted to leave the EU (17 and a half million of them) than have ever voted for anything else ever in the history of UK elections. Democracy has been served and the result is clear
52% Leave
48% Remain
The whinging, bitching and moaning from the remainers is wearing a bit thin now, but at the end of the day their protestations are nothing more than hot air. The new Prime Minister Theresa May is committed to brexit, the Conservative government is committed to brexit and Theresa May has put a capable brexit team in place with Boris Johnson, Liam Fox and David Davis. Britain is leaving the EU so the sooner everyone accepts it the better. "Fucking rich since the anti European campaign started over twenty years ago people are against being out and will be for for a long time get used to it .... | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. As you hate it so much why keep the passport? Easy question to answer. How thick are you ? Very easy question to answer ....I've tried giving it away but bog paper is In plentiful supply over here Thats not very polite. Come on, why don't you get rid of your English passport and get a nice Spanish one that will keep you in the EU. I know plenty of expats with Spanish and English passports so its easy enough to do. I've been here less than a year and no its not easy to get one ..check the web site..instead of trolling the forums for once How would I know how long you've lived there. I'm not your keeper. Hopefully you can get a passport soon but in the interim all you need to do is avoid all things British then your anger will suside. Although it is the mature of our great country that has given you the means to retire where you are. But one very mute point. Given your obvious hate of Britain and all things British, don't you think maybe all your opinions are biased to the point of wishing Britain harm and therefore completely irrelevant. Just a thought." Total crap. just my opinion | |||
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"And yet more disastrous news!!! After saying that leaving the European Union could trigger a UK recession, the International Monetary Fund now expects the British economy to grow by 1.7 per cent this year and 1.3 per cent next year. IMF managing director Christine Lagarde (who is to stand trial in France for alleged negligence over a €404m payment to a businessman in 2008) and best buddy of fellow doom-monger George Osborne, said Brexit would be ‘pretty bad, to very, very bad’ for the UK. Osborne has now signed himself up onto the US lecture circuit where he will be paid $100,000 per speech. As Cameron (now relocated to his £17 million house) once said: "We are all in it together". So the claims Osborne and Cameron were making about a Brexit recession were bullshit then. "Takes more Tha a few week to prove whether the UK is in recession think its about three months of figures ..so probably like you're sex its premature... | |||
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"And yet more disastrous news!!! After saying that leaving the European Union could trigger a UK recession, the International Monetary Fund now expects the British economy to grow by 1.7 per cent this year and 1.3 per cent next year. IMF managing director Christine Lagarde (who is to stand trial in France for alleged negligence over a €404m payment to a businessman in 2008) and best buddy of fellow doom-monger George Osborne, said Brexit would be ‘pretty bad, to very, very bad’ for the UK. Osborne has now signed himself up onto the US lecture circuit where he will be paid $100,000 per speech. As Cameron (now relocated to his £17 million house) once said: "We are all in it together". So the claims Osborne and Cameron were making about a Brexit recession were bullshit then.
Takes more Tha a few week to prove whether the UK is in recession think its about three months of figures ..so probably like you're sex its premature..."When you start making personal insults then you've lost the argument.
2nd it's not my prediction, it's the IMF's prediction. You do remember the IMF who remainers like you were full of praise for and you bigged them up as the global monetary experts before the referendum. You told everyone that we should all listen to the IMF.
So what has changed then, don't you respect the IMF opinion anymore?
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"Three important Countries of Uk voted to Remain Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibralter (96% voted to remain)... people might say vote is Democratic fine then if its Democratic then allow these parts to decide if they wish to stay with UK now before Brexit happens. They cant remain we joined the EU as the UK we must leave the EU as the UK." UK is broken now and Scotland will for sure seek referendum as the remain UK lobby used the staying in EU as one of their main points... we voted to stay in UK based on facts that we would stay in EU now UK are leaving EU. Only right Scotland get to vote that they wish to remain with UK or go Independent.... Northern Ireland and Gibralter have right to decide their future as they are countries that have borders with EU countries now have to manned borders passport checks less freedom of travel etc to decide... Man Gibralter voted 96% to remain why should be forced to leave | |||
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"Three important Countries of Uk voted to Remain Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibralter (96% voted to remain)... people might say vote is Democratic fine then if its Democratic then allow these parts to decide if they wish to stay with UK now before Brexit happens. They cant remain we joined the EU as the UK we must leave the EU as the UK. UK is broken now and Scotland will for sure seek referendum as the remain UK lobby used the staying in EU as one of their main points... we voted to stay in UK based on facts that we would stay in EU now UK are leaving EU. Only right Scotland get to vote that they wish to remain with UK or go Independent.... Northern Ireland and Gibralter have right to decide their future as they are countries that have borders with EU countries now have to manned borders passport checks less freedom of travel etc to decide... Man Gibralter voted 96% to remain why should be forced to leave " An iScotland would have been out of the EU, it was made patently clear by the Spanish Government that they would veto an early iScot entry to the EU and have reiterated that view recently. The words 'snow ball in hells chance' come to mind. The Spanish do not want to encourge the Catalans to cede. The SNP's George Kerevan has gone on the record that it would be painful and that the nacent government of an iScotland would have to "cut its cloth according to its finances". In otherwords, asset sales, tax rises and benefits reductions to get an iScotlands deficit to the level required by the EU for accession to even begin to be thought about. Fess up, the tome "Scotlands Future" was nothing but a wish list of what the SNP thought the Scottish public would want to hear. Kerevan's comments have just put the boot into the "land of milk and honey" that the White paper promised. As for 'only right', what happened to the 'once in a generation' and 'respecting the will of the scottish people?' The Scottish people spoke, they wanted to stay, for better or worse with the UK. The conservative party in 2013 stated openly that it would hold a referendum on the place of the UK in the EU. There was always a chance Brexit would happen and with the apathetic promotion of the Remain side, it did. We as the UK now face the prospect of a post EU future, why should we in Scotland make that future even harder by screwing around with our biggest trading partner? | |||
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"Screwing with our biggest trader UK have done that by removing itself from EU, So why shouldnt Scotland do the same 48% of UK wanted to remain that is some Veto a government has to play with there lives....whats the first thing they do put Boris Johnson as foreign secretary to lead trade discussions and represent abroad ahhh stop " And 52% voted to leave. Which is more than 48% if you hadn't noticed. So in your world the minority win? It was a vote, its done. Get over it. | |||
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"And yet more disastrous news!!! After saying that leaving the European Union could trigger a UK recession, the International Monetary Fund now expects the British economy to grow by 1.7 per cent this year and 1.3 per cent next year. IMF managing director Christine Lagarde (who is to stand trial in France for alleged negligence over a €404m payment to a businessman in 2008) and best buddy of fellow doom-monger George Osborne, said Brexit would be ‘pretty bad, to very, very bad’ for the UK. Osborne has now signed himself up onto the US lecture circuit where he will be paid $100,000 per speech. As Cameron (now relocated to his £17 million house) once said: "We are all in it together". So the claims Osborne and Cameron were making about a Brexit recession were bullshit then.
Takes more Tha a few week to prove whether the UK is in recession think its about three months of figures ..so probably like you're sex its premature...
When you start making personal insults then you've lost the argument.
2nd it's not my prediction, it's the IMF's prediction. You do remember the IMF who remainers like you were full of praise for and you bigged them up as the global monetary experts before the referendum. You told everyone that we should all listen to the IMF.
So what has changed then, don't you respect the IMF opinion anymore?
The IMF now forecasts there will be no brexit recession, indeed the IMF forecasts the UK economy to still outperform the 2 biggest economies in the EU (France and Germany) this year and next year. "You keep believing bullshit .. when reality strikes dont look shocked ..lets look at the economy in around.four months time ..way to early to be confident of no recession .keep an eye on the building industry and housing market they are usually good indicator's of an impeding recession .. | |||
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"Screwing with our biggest trader UK have done that by removing itself from EU, So why shouldnt Scotland do the same 48% of UK wanted to remain that is some Veto a government has to play with there lives....whats the first thing they do put Boris Johnson as foreign secretary to lead trade discussions and represent abroad ahhh stop And 52% voted to leave. Which is more than 48% if you hadn't noticed. So in your world the minority win? It was a vote, its done. Get over it." As previously said there will be opposition to leaving the EU for some time ro come .and then a movement to rejoin get over it ... opposition is here to stay | |||
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"And yet more disastrous news!!! After saying that leaving the European Union could trigger a UK recession, the International Monetary Fund now expects the British economy to grow by 1.7 per cent this year and 1.3 per cent next year. IMF managing director Christine Lagarde (who is to stand trial in France for alleged negligence over a €404m payment to a businessman in 2008) and best buddy of fellow doom-monger George Osborne, said Brexit would be ‘pretty bad, to very, very bad’ for the UK. Osborne has now signed himself up onto the US lecture circuit where he will be paid $100,000 per speech. As Cameron (now relocated to his £17 million house) once said: "We are all in it together". So the claims Osborne and Cameron were making about a Brexit recession were bullshit then.
Takes more Tha a few week to prove whether the UK is in recession think its about three months of figures ..so probably like you're sex its premature...
When you start making personal insults then you've lost the argument.
2nd it's not my prediction, it's the IMF's prediction. You do remember the IMF who remainers like you were full of praise for and you bigged them up as the global monetary experts before the referendum. You told everyone that we should all listen to the IMF.
So what has changed then, don't you respect the IMF opinion anymore?
The IMF now forecasts there will be no brexit recession, indeed the IMF forecasts the UK economy to still outperform the 2 biggest economies in the EU (France and Germany) this year and next year.
You keep believing bullshit .. when reality strikes dont look shocked ..lets look at the economy in around.four months time ..way to early to be confident of no recession .keep an eye on the building industry and housing market they are usually good indicator's of an impeding recession .."Guess what sector I work in. Life is still looking rosy thank you. | |||
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"Screwing with our biggest trader UK have done that by removing itself from EU, So why shouldnt Scotland do the same 48% of UK wanted to remain that is some Veto a government has to play with there lives....whats the first thing they do put Boris Johnson as foreign secretary to lead trade discussions and represent abroad ahhh stop And 52% voted to leave. Which is more than 48% if you hadn't noticed. So in your world the minority win? It was a vote, its done. Get over it. As previously said there will be opposition to leaving the EU for some time ro come .and then a movement to rejoin get over it ... opposition is here to stay " The EU will never let Britain rejoin after Brexit, the EU will probably collapse within 10 years anyway, sorry to burst your bubble. | |||
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"Screwing with our biggest trader UK have done that by removing itself from EU, So why shouldnt Scotland do the same 48% of UK wanted to remain that is some Veto a government has to play with there lives....whats the first thing they do put Boris Johnson as foreign secretary to lead trade discussions and represent abroad ahhh stop And 52% voted to leave. Which is more than 48% if you hadn't noticed. So in your world the minority win? It was a vote, its done. Get over it. As previously said there will be opposition to leaving the EU for some time ro come .and then a movement to rejoin get over it ... opposition is here to stay The EU will never let Britain rejoin after Brexit, the EU will probably collapse within 10 years anyway, sorry to burst your bubble. " | |||
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"Screwing with our biggest trader UK have done that by removing itself from EU, So why shouldnt Scotland do the same 48% of UK wanted to remain that is some Veto a government has to play with there lives....whats the first thing they do put Boris Johnson as foreign secretary to lead trade discussions and represent abroad ahhh stop And 52% voted to leave. Which is more than 48% if you hadn't noticed. So in your world the minority win? It was a vote, its done. Get over it. As previously said there will be opposition to leaving the EU for some time ro come .and then a movement to rejoin get over it ... opposition is here to stay The EU will never let Britain rejoin after Brexit, the EU will probably collapse within 10 years anyway, sorry to burst your bubble. "Ohh you're so negative sometimes anyone would think you want them to fail so that Blighty doesn't look back and think if only we had stayed . | |||
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"Screwing with our biggest trader UK have done that by removing itself from EU, So why shouldnt Scotland do the same 48% of UK wanted to remain that is some Veto a government has to play with there lives....whats the first thing they do put Boris Johnson as foreign secretary to lead trade discussions and represent abroad ahhh stop And 52% voted to leave. Which is more than 48% if you hadn't noticed. So in your world the minority win? It was a vote, its done. Get over it. As previously said there will be opposition to leaving the EU for some time ro come .and then a movement to rejoin get over it ... opposition is here to stay The EU will never let Britain rejoin after Brexit, the EU will probably collapse within 10 years anyway, sorry to burst your bubble. "I would say UK as it is now has more chance of collapsing than Europe ... and recent events like Boris appointment and Trident in Scotland will only fuel further division between Westminister England/Wales and Scotland. If May is going to be the next Thatcher again only fuels the division | |||
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"Screwing with our biggest trader UK have done that by removing itself from EU, So why shouldnt Scotland do the same 48% of UK wanted to remain that is some Veto a government has to play with there lives....whats the first thing they do put Boris Johnson as foreign secretary to lead trade discussions and represent abroad ahhh stop And 52% voted to leave. Which is more than 48% if you hadn't noticed. So in your world the minority win? It was a vote, its done. Get over it. As previously said there will be opposition to leaving the EU for some time ro come .and then a movement to rejoin get over it ... opposition is here to stay The EU will never let Britain rejoin after Brexit, the EU will probably collapse within 10 years anyway, sorry to burst your bubble.
I would say UK as it is now has more chance of collapsing than Europe ... and recent events like Boris appointment and Trident in Scotland will only fuel further division between Westminister England/Wales and Scotland. If May is going to be the next Thatcher again only fuels the division
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"http://news.sky.com/story/uk-facing-recession-threat-after-brexit-vote-10509151 Believe what you want ....." for goodness sake. Get the full picture | |||
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"http://news.sky.com/story/uk-facing-recession-threat-after-brexit-vote-10509151 Believe what you want ..... for goodness sake. Get the full picture" Ohh I've got the full picture of which way the UK economy is headed .. | |||
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"http://news.sky.com/story/uk-facing-recession-threat-after-brexit-vote-10509151 Believe what you want ..... for goodness sake. Get the full picture Ohh I've got the full picture of which way the UK economy is headed .." Really? It does not appear from your comments that you do. The link you posted only points to one source (PMI) predicting a recession. The link you posted gives 2 sources saying there will be no recession (the IMF and the bank of England). | |||
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"http://news.sky.com/story/uk-facing-recession-threat-after-brexit-vote-10509151 Believe what you want ..... for goodness sake. Get the full picture Ohh I've got the full picture of which way the UK economy is headed .. Really? It does not appear from your comments that you do. The link you posted only points to one source (PMI) predicting a recession. The link you posted gives 2 sources saying there will be no recession (the IMF and the bank of England). "And your post contained precisely zero links to back up your claims | |||
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"http://news.sky.com/story/uk-facing-recession-threat-after-brexit-vote-10509151 Believe what you want ..... for goodness sake. Get the full picture Ohh I've got the full picture of which way the UK economy is headed .. Really? It does not appear from your comments that you do. The link you posted only points to one source (PMI) predicting a recession. The link you posted gives 2 sources saying there will be no recession (the IMF and the bank of England).
And your post contained precisely zero links to back up your claims "yours was just a survey of emotive opinions taken straight after a referendum with no hard evidence. Why do you care anyway? | |||
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"http://news.sky.com/story/uk-facing-recession-threat-after-brexit-vote-10509151 Believe what you want ..... for goodness sake. Get the full picture Ohh I've got the full picture of which way the UK economy is headed .. Really? It does not appear from your comments that you do. The link you posted only points to one source (PMI) predicting a recession. The link you posted gives 2 sources saying there will be no recession (the IMF and the bank of England).
And your post contained precisely zero links to back up your claims
yours was just a survey of emotive opinions taken straight after a referendum with no hard evidence. Why do you care anyway?"Good to see you back up your opinion with precisely zero links to back your biased ...no nowhere in the report was emotive emotive opinions so whose emotive opinions are you referring to ? | |||
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"http://news.sky.com/story/uk-facing-recession-threat-after-brexit-vote-10509151 Believe what you want ..... for goodness sake. Get the full picture Ohh I've got the full picture of which way the UK economy is headed .. Really? It does not appear from your comments that you do. The link you posted only points to one source (PMI) predicting a recession. The link you posted gives 2 sources saying there will be no recession (the IMF and the bank of England).
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. As you hate it so much why keep the passport? Easy question to answer. How thick are you ? Very easy question to answer ....I've tried giving it away but bog paper is In plentiful supply over here Thats not very polite. Come on, why don't you get rid of your English passport and get a nice Spanish one that will keep you in the EU. I know plenty of expats with Spanish and English passports so its easy enough to do. because he's not legal there, had this before . Can't even take advantage of any benefits the EU offer
Now I've warned you before about spreading personal lies about me so retracted that last post ..
why, have you got your Residencia this week?"You really need to join other forums and learn about life ..what i personally have or not is my business..see your still not man enough to admit you persist in posting lies my status in Spain is legal I pay many different taxes to government offices. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. As you hate it so much why keep the passport? Easy question to answer. How thick are you ? Very easy question to answer ....I've tried giving it away but bog paper is In plentiful supply over here Thats not very polite. Come on, why don't you get rid of your English passport and get a nice Spanish one that will keep you in the EU. I know plenty of expats with Spanish and English passports so its easy enough to do. because he's not legal there, had this before . Can't even take advantage of any benefits the EU offer
Now I've warned you before about spreading personal lies about me so retracted that last post ..
why, have you got your Residencia this week?
You really need to join other forums and learn about life ..what i personally have or not is my business..see your still not man enough to admit you persist in posting lies my status in Spain is legal I pay many different taxes to government offices. "You need a residencia and an NIE to be able to legally work and pay employment taxes in Spain (including Canaries). A NIE (Número de Identidad de Extranjero) is a number the immigration service issues you once you become a resident, you will find it on your Residency Card. This is your identification number in Spain. It is needed in order to file taxes, establish a business, open a bank account, and for almost all other forms you fill out. Both EU citizens and non-EU citizens get issued a NIE. However, if you don't have these, there are still taxes that you would naturally pay.... fuel tax, and vat equivalent to name but two. So, you could be illegal to work in Spain, but still 'pay many taxes'... So I would say that asking if you have a residencia is a perfectly legitimate question... avoiding giving the answer implies something that may or may not be the case. | |||
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" nobody should have the RIGHT to work in another country, all it does is depress wages. Why not just import a couple of million starving Africans if immigration is so good? If they posess a skill that cannot be filled by local labour then they will get the job. No government will put a definite limit on immigration at the expense of business. It is the vilest form of hypocrisy to take away the rights of millions to come here, when you want to emigrate to somewhere else. To try and cloak your hypocrisy by saying that you are denying their rights because that's best for them, to stop them from being exploited, makes it even more disgusting. I have been both amused and saddened by your continual mentioning of this RIGHT you seem to think is so valuable. No one has a RIGHT to go to another country unless you are in the madhouse called the EU. It is a privilege you earn. You try telling the Yanks you have a RIGHT to enter the USA. And then duck... You have some misguided view of reality. You are clearly a child of the EU with all its fabricated rights and Directives whereas in the real world people go to a country and appreciate they are a visitor. Some act accordingly some don't. The reason the UK left the EU is because too many people with too little to offer had that RIGHT you say is so sacred, caqme here and basically abused our hospitality. That RIGHT you say is so beneficial has seen British worker's wages reduced and our country's infrastructure and public services overloaded. And on top of housing them, educating them and keeping them healthy we give these people our taxpayer funded Benefits and Tax Credits. because they have the RIGHT! 630,000 people last year exercised that RIGHT and we are the poorer for it. Well not any longer. When people are allowed to come here in future they will bring what we need and they will be valued. And they in turn will value the fact they earned the invitation to come to the greatest country on earth .... Mein gott in himmel, you have eaten zwie Weetabix this morning Mein Führer. Its ok if they are headed to the greatest country on earth they wont be knocking on the UK's door..... Remind me. What nationality are you? I'm British and i can tell you its no longer the greatest nation on earth it lost that position years ago So revoke your passport and apply for Spanish Nationality. I mean its not like they have a history of racism or anything. They are so much more tolerent than the British. what has that to do with the sort of nation the UK has evolved into ..since I have lived in the UK more years than you I have every right to voice my opinion on my place of birth whether you like or agree with it or not .. As you hate it so much why keep the passport? Easy question to answer. How thick are you ? Very easy question to answer ....I've tried giving it away but bog paper is In plentiful supply over here Thats not very polite. Come on, why don't you get rid of your English passport and get a nice Spanish one that will keep you in the EU. I know plenty of expats with Spanish and English passports so its easy enough to do. because he's not legal there, had this before . Can't even take advantage of any benefits the EU offer
Now I've warned you before about spreading personal lies about me so retracted that last post ..
why, have you got your Residencia this week?
You really need to join other forums and learn about life ..what i personally have or not is my business..see your still not man enough to admit you persist in posting lies my status in Spain is legal I pay many different taxes to government offices.
You need a residencia and an NIE to be able to legally work and pay employment taxes in Spain (including Canaries).
A NIE (Número de Identidad de Extranjero) is a number the immigration service issues you once you become a resident, you will find it on your Residency Card. This is your identification number in Spain. It is needed in order to file taxes, establish a business, open a bank account, and for almost all other forms you fill out. Both EU citizens and non-EU citizens get issued a NIE.
However, if you don't have these, there are still taxes that you would naturally pay.... fuel tax, and vat equivalent to name but two.
So, you could be illegal to work in Spain, but still 'pay many taxes'...
So I would say that asking if you have a residencia is a perfectly legitimate question... avoiding giving the answer implies something that may or may not be the case.
"Book yourself a flight and visit the gardia to ask .renewed my nie 3,times as it used to expire I have and still work here and live here Oh and pay taxes on earnings with my social security number Also paid my speeding fine guess what never locked up once ...if you're not bright enough to work out how that's done not my problem ...there are many people here in Spain living and working legally..again join the many informative forums on the internet for information ..and no asking for personal information on a forum is not legitimate..no residencia required to obtain nie no resedencia req to obtain nation insurance number .....end of and im legally here working amd living | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007 "You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it..... | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it..... "I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before "You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do .... | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do .... "yes you do, you remind me so much of a lot of the Brits who came out to live in Spain while I was there, feeling as if they are the first people to have made the move, feeling as if they're something special, always praising Spain and knocking the grey old UK, especially when in conversation with holidaymakers in an attempt to make themselves feel good and the others somehow jealous. Trouble was, after a year or two most realised that actually they were sad and lonely and had become alcoholics and life there was more difficult than they imagined and it was the bloody Spanish that they started to knock. I'm sure you'll carry on living the life though man and enjoying it, good luck with it | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do .... "Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle? They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home. Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period. I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was. Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home" one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good. | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good."got to agree, as much as I loved living there and would retire there, after 4 years of working there I'd had enough and the drive 'home' felt wonderful | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good."Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us .. | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us .. "Have pulled your business's out of uk yet? | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Have pulled your business's out of uk yet? "Why and what point are you trying to make ? Before you ask I have no intention of starting a business here until I know enough about business and employment law here ..i an led to believe a Chinese passport is the one to have as tax laws seem to favour them.. | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Have pulled your business's out of uk yet?
Why and what point are you trying to make ? Before you ask I have no intention of starting a business here until I know enough about business and employment law here ..i an led to believe a Chinese passport is the one to have as tax laws seem to favour them.."Why? Because you threatened to around the 24th. Point trying to make? None just curious. What business's do you have in the UK, again just curious? | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us .. "Not trying to cause an argument, just curious. As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it? Just curious. | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious." | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious."Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ... | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007 "The key word in the decree is SHOULD ...it is not ilegal mot to see article from Fuerteventura.com Do I need a work permit? If you are from the EU, no. But you should attempt to get a job with a contract of employment otherwise you are working illegally. A resident’s permit used to be required if staying for longer than 3 months, but is no longer required if you are an EU citizen. You should , however register where you are living with the appropriate town hall (empadronamiento). The police will come and check with your neighbours that you live where you stated on the application form and you can then get a certificado de empadronamiento whenever you require it. As well as being necessary for applying for school places etc, this certificate also entitles you to a resident’s discount on domestic flights and ferry services | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ... "All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East? So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure? | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?"Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?
Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system "I'm not talking about the UK. As you keep avoiding answering the question I have jumped to my own conclusion | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Have pulled your business's out of uk yet?
Why and what point are you trying to make ? Before you ask I have no intention of starting a business here until I know enough about business and employment law here ..i an led to believe a Chinese passport is the one to have as tax laws seem to favour them.."you could be right. So why are people worried about not being a part of the rotten EU? | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Have pulled your business's out of uk yet?
Why and what point are you trying to make ? Before you ask I have no intention of starting a business here until I know enough about business and employment law here ..i an led to believe a Chinese passport is the one to have as tax laws seem to favour them..
you could be right. So why are people worried about not being a part of the rotten EU?"According to the Vienna convention we only have rights as long as the UK is part of the EU..main points being health care right to stay here big issue inheritance tax spain wants a whooping 90% for non EU citizens only .you only have to look at the lack of non EU citizens here to realise there ae many obstacles to overcome ..and that before the UK government make it harder pension rights ect | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?
Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system
I'm not talking about the UK. As you keep avoiding answering the question I have jumped to my own conclusion "Read the bloody reply the population of Fuerteventura has doubled since 2003 that's way more immigration than the Uk has per head of population .. | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Have pulled your business's out of uk yet?
Why and what point are you trying to make ? Before you ask I have no intention of starting a business here until I know enough about business and employment law here ..i an led to believe a Chinese passport is the one to have as tax laws seem to favour them..
you could be right. So why are people worried about not being a part of the rotten EU?
According to the Vienna convention we only have rights as long as the UK is part of the EU..main points being health care right to stay here big issue inheritance tax spain wants a whooping 90% for non EU citizens only .you only have to look at the lack of non EU citizens here to realise there ae many obstacles to overcome ..and that before the UK government make it harder pension rights ect "there are millions of non EU citizens living in Spain | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?
Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system
I'm not talking about the UK. As you keep avoiding answering the question I have jumped to my own conclusion
Read the bloody reply the population of Fuerteventura has doubled since 2003 that's way more immigration than the Uk has per head of population .."That was controlled. I'm talking umcontrolled and you've been there less than a year. So all irrelevant. I'm talking from now. But as you wont answer I've reached my own conclusion. | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?
Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system
I'm not talking about the UK. As you keep avoiding answering the question I have jumped to my own conclusion
Read the bloody reply the population of Fuerteventura has doubled since 2003 that's way more immigration than the Uk has per head of population ..
That was controlled. I'm talking umcontrolled and you've been there less than a year. So all irrelevant.
I'm talking from now. But as you wont answer I've reached my own conclusion."Plus most of those are responsible for the increase are probably Spanish from the mainland, British, or similar Northern European setting up business. As you wont answer it is safe to say I know the answer | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?
Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system
I'm not talking about the UK. As you keep avoiding answering the question I have jumped to my own conclusion
Read the bloody reply the population of Fuerteventura has doubled since 2003 that's way more immigration than the Uk has per head of population ..
That was controlled. I'm talking umcontrolled and you've been there less than a year. So all irrelevant.
I'm talking from now. But as you wont answer I've reached my own conclusion.
Plus most of those are responsible for the increase are probably Spanish from the mainland, British, or similar Northern European setting up business.
As you wont answer it is safe to say I know the answer "It wouldn't matter what I put your biased opinion would always stop you from listening to the truth as for knowing the answer yours was always going to be blinkered End of | |||
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"As of 2015 there were 2.3 million from other EU countries living in Spain and 4.1 million non EU citizens" In the tiny island of Fuerteventura there was 74 thousand in 2003 now there are over 174000 that in a tiny island is doubling the population the majority of whom are EU citizens with a sizeable number being UK citizens | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?
Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system
I'm not talking about the UK. As you keep avoiding answering the question I have jumped to my own conclusion
Read the bloody reply the population of Fuerteventura has doubled since 2003 that's way more immigration than the Uk has per head of population ..
That was controlled. I'm talking umcontrolled and you've been there less than a year. So all irrelevant.
I'm talking from now. But as you wont answer I've reached my own conclusion.
Plus most of those are responsible for the increase are probably Spanish from the mainland, British, or similar Northern European setting up business.
As you wont answer it is safe to say I know the answer
It wouldn't matter what I put your biased opinion would always stop you from listening to the truth as for knowing the answer yours was always going to be blinkered
End of "I don't expect an answer and I wont say what we both know. The secret of why you moved to a sparsely populated island is safe with me | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?
Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system
I'm not talking about the UK. As you keep avoiding answering the question I have jumped to my own conclusion
Read the bloody reply the population of Fuerteventura has doubled since 2003 that's way more immigration than the Uk has per head of population ..
That was controlled. I'm talking umcontrolled and you've been there less than a year. So all irrelevant.
I'm talking from now. But as you wont answer I've reached my own conclusion.
Plus most of those are responsible for the increase are probably Spanish from the mainland, British, or similar Northern European setting up business.
As you wont answer it is safe to say I know the answer
It wouldn't matter what I put your biased opinion would always stop you from listening to the truth as for knowing the answer yours was always going to be blinkered
End of
I don't expect an answer and I wont say what we both know. The secret of why you moved to a sparsely populated island is safe with me"I gave you the answer ..and its clear for all to see why you wont accept It... | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?
Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system
I'm not talking about the UK. As you keep avoiding answering the question I have jumped to my own conclusion
Read the bloody reply the population of Fuerteventura has doubled since 2003 that's way more immigration than the Uk has per head of population .."I just looked it up on Google, the most densely populated country in the EU is England. | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?
Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system
I'm not talking about the UK. As you keep avoiding answering the question I have jumped to my own conclusion
Read the bloody reply the population of Fuerteventura has doubled since 2003 that's way more immigration than the Uk has per head of population ..
That was controlled. I'm talking umcontrolled and you've been there less than a year. So all irrelevant.
I'm talking from now. But as you wont answer I've reached my own conclusion.
Plus most of those are responsible for the increase are probably Spanish from the mainland, British, or similar Northern European setting up business.
As you wont answer it is safe to say I know the answer
It wouldn't matter what I put your biased opinion would always stop you from listening to the truth as for knowing the answer yours was always going to be blinkered
End of
I don't expect an answer and I wont say what we both know. The secret of why you moved to a sparsely populated island is safe with me
I gave you the answer ..and its clear for all to see why you wont accept It..."You haven't answered. But don't worry I'll leave it there for you. You know I know and thats enough for me. Time to move on | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?
Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system
I'm not talking about the UK. As you keep avoiding answering the question I have jumped to my own conclusion
Read the bloody reply the population of Fuerteventura has doubled since 2003 that's way more immigration than the Uk has per head of population ..
That was controlled. I'm talking umcontrolled and you've been there less than a year. So all irrelevant.
I'm talking from now. But as you wont answer I've reached my own conclusion.
Plus most of those are responsible for the increase are probably Spanish from the mainland, British, or similar Northern European setting up business.
As you wont answer it is safe to say I know the answer
It wouldn't matter what I put your biased opinion would always stop you from listening to the truth as for knowing the answer yours was always going to be blinkered
End of
I don't expect an answer and I wont say what we both know. The secret of why you moved to a sparsely populated island is safe with me
I gave you the answer ..and its clear for all to see why you wont accept It...
You haven't answered. But don't worry I'll leave it there for you. You know I know and thats enough for me. Time to move on "So is it the reading you struggle with or understand what you have read either way you can seek help In These enlightened times without embarrassment.. | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?
Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system
I'm not talking about the UK. As you keep avoiding answering the question I have jumped to my own conclusion
Read the bloody reply the population of Fuerteventura has doubled since 2003 that's way more immigration than the Uk has per head of population ..
That was controlled. I'm talking umcontrolled and you've been there less than a year. So all irrelevant.
I'm talking from now. But as you wont answer I've reached my own conclusion.
Plus most of those are responsible for the increase are probably Spanish from the mainland, British, or similar Northern European setting up business.
As you wont answer it is safe to say I know the answer
It wouldn't matter what I put your biased opinion would always stop you from listening to the truth as for knowing the answer yours was always going to be blinkered
End of
I don't expect an answer and I wont say what we both know. The secret of why you moved to a sparsely populated island is safe with me
I gave you the answer ..and its clear for all to see why you wont accept It...
You haven't answered. But don't worry I'll leave it there for you. You know I know and thats enough for me. Time to move on
So is it the reading you struggle with or understand what you have read either way you can seek help In These enlightened times without embarrassment.. "You have never answered the question. How would uncontrolled mass immigration (say 100000) of people who have no intention of working or contributing to where you live affect your enjoyment of the island you went to because it was sparsely occupied? You've avoided answering the question directly. As a gentleman I took it upon myself to leave it to save you embarrassment as we both know the answer. Trying to unsult me does nothing to detract from it. It simply makes you the smaller person. | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?
Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system
I'm not talking about the UK. As you keep avoiding answering the question I have jumped to my own conclusion
Read the bloody reply the population of Fuerteventura has doubled since 2003 that's way more immigration than the Uk has per head of population ..
That was controlled. I'm talking umcontrolled and you've been there less than a year. So all irrelevant.
I'm talking from now. But as you wont answer I've reached my own conclusion.
Plus most of those are responsible for the increase are probably Spanish from the mainland, British, or similar Northern European setting up business.
As you wont answer it is safe to say I know the answer
It wouldn't matter what I put your biased opinion would always stop you from listening to the truth as for knowing the answer yours was always going to be blinkered
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I don't expect an answer and I wont say what we both know. The secret of why you moved to a sparsely populated island is safe with me
I gave you the answer ..and its clear for all to see why you wont accept It...
You haven't answered. But don't worry I'll leave it there for you. You know I know and thats enough for me. Time to move on
So is it the reading you struggle with or understand what you have read either way you can seek help In These enlightened times without embarrassment..
You have never answered the question. How would uncontrolled mass immigration (say 100000) of people who have no intention of working or contributing to where you live affect your enjoyment of the island you went to because it was sparsely occupied?
You've avoided answering the question directly. As a gentleman I took it upon myself to leave it to save you embarrassment as we both know the answer.
Trying to unsult me does nothing to detract from it. It simply makes you the smaller person."since you cant be bothered to go back over previous posts ..here goes the sort of immigration you mention is like the uk recieving 65million,, so you can start to see how fanciful you figure would be ..as i said the islands populatioin has coped over the last few years with as agreed with another poster a 50% increase and has coped. unlike your very dim view of migrants they manage to create jobs and wealth out of almost nothing so no i dont believe if migration continued at approx 5% per year which is way above uk levels it would do anything but benefit the island .why would the migrants have no intention of working or contributing to the system in your mind would they all have bombs and be shouting passages from the koran .. | |||
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?
Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system
I'm not talking about the UK. As you keep avoiding answering the question I have jumped to my own conclusion
Read the bloody reply the population of Fuerteventura has doubled since 2003 that's way more immigration than the Uk has per head of population ..
That was controlled. I'm talking umcontrolled and you've been there less than a year. So all irrelevant.
I'm talking from now. But as you wont answer I've reached my own conclusion.
Plus most of those are responsible for the increase are probably Spanish from the mainland, British, or similar Northern European setting up business.
As you wont answer it is safe to say I know the answer
It wouldn't matter what I put your biased opinion would always stop you from listening to the truth as for knowing the answer yours was always going to be blinkered
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"To save any arguments or flight bookings anyone interested in living in Spain should check out the government's website stating requirements under Spain's Royal Decree 240/07 dated 28th March 2007
You still spouting crap ..would suggest people talk to the many EU residents living here .oh and working here ..time to live life man and not just read about it.....
I lived there and owned a bar there for years man, as I think I've told you before
You dont now and as I have said live life ..when you read rules and understand the you will legal loopholes In most ..also the rules changed in 2012 and also the rules on nie changed again about a month ago ...if I wasn't legal how did I renew my nie 3 times in front or the gardia ..surely I would have been told I cant ..your fellow poster forget to mention the empadronamiento from the ayuntamiento then NIE from local police then social number hey presto you can work and pay taxes ohh and live here .....we do ....
Do you think 8 months on a Canary Island is enough time to judge Spanish lifestyle?
They are all very small islands and no comparison with living in Spain, perhaps a year, - year and a half island fever will set in and time to move back home.
Everything always seems wonderful in a honeymoon period.
I stayed in Lanzarotte for a full year as you know from previous, and a year was enough no matter how wonderful the "small" island was.
Also stayed just over a year in Cadiz building an oil platform, now that was different, so much to do and even day trips to Morocco was a fine change but never the feeling of belonging you have when you return "Home"
one or two years away from the UK is not enough to decide you are away for good.
Thank you ..mostly right I live where i live for now nothing in my mind is forever there are so many countries to experience life in and as you say less than a year is no time at all to experience life there ..i lead a better lifestyle here than I did in the UK .that doesn't make it a better country it just makes it better for my lifestyle choices .there are many countries I could have a better lifestyle in than the UK and many I could have a worse lifestyle in ..for us personally our life is a better one for now..the island here is sparsely populated and that suits us ..
Not trying to cause an argument, just curious.
As you enjoy the sparsely populated island. How would you feel if there was mass immigration onto it?
Just curious.
Unlikely to happen as there in no mass immigration anywhere in the world .. As long as immigration was at the similar percentage levels per head of population to the UK.. I can see benefits to the residents over here in the diversity of cultures and business created by it ....plus it could be a massive boom to the building industry over here its called progress ...
All that would affect how sparsely the Island is populated but you haven't answered the question as there is mass immigration. Have you seen what is happening in the Middle East?
So I will rephrase the question. How would you feel if there was uncontrolled mass immigration of people not contributing to society and taking benefits that your taxes pay for, reducing money that could be spent on schools, hospitals and infrastructure?
Since 2003,the islands population has doubled that's mot from birth rate but from immigration..so. Compared to this island any immigration the UK has had in comparison to the size of its population is miniscule ..any of the concerns you rase about social care could have been addressed under EU legislation as Spain did in 2007 and France have done .. I don't believe the cost of immigrants in the UK that great otherwise the UK government would have sorted it ..i believe the UK is in pocket from the immigrants contributing to the system
I'm not talking about the UK. As you keep avoiding answering the question I have jumped to my own conclusion
Read the bloody reply the population of Fuerteventura has doubled since 2003 that's way more immigration than the Uk has per head of population ..
That was controlled. I'm talking umcontrolled and you've been there less than a year. So all irrelevant.
I'm talking from now. But as you wont answer I've reached my own conclusion.
Plus most of those are responsible for the increase are probably Spanish from the mainland, British, or similar Northern European setting up business.
As you wont answer it is safe to say I know the answer
It wouldn't matter what I put your biased opinion would always stop you from listening to the truth as for knowing the answer yours was always going to be blinkered
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And your opinion isn't biased?
Let's put this another way...
Population density in England is c.411/sq.KM. In Fuerteventura it is about 45/sq.KM.
Would you be ok with it being 9 - 10 ti.es higher... i.e. the same as England? "Simple fact per head of population Fuerteventura has more immigration than the uk ..and poster who said the figures include the Spanish it doesn't that's the same as the welsh moving to England ..and if you are trying to make out the UK is full get out in you car and drive round the country there are vast swathes of openness .. | |||
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