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By *hil and Annie OP Man over a year ago

Stafford

Boris Johnson is foreign secretary loool

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The perfect man for the job

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

He might be good

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS over a year ago

Horsham

At least you know what you are getting with him.

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By *olgateMan over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work. "

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman over a year ago

Hereabouts

I saw his and Tim Minchin's love child today

Drinking JD and in a hospital car park

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

I am quite pleased with this.

But we are in the wrong forum

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Any man that can rock a zip wire deserves a cabinet position!

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan"

So he likes a laugh

That chair was too weird for me btw

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman over a year ago

Hereabouts

"I am quite pleased with this.

But we are in the wrong forum

Don't say that. I always avoid politics and I don't want to be seen in that there forum...

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

As if by magic

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By *oodmessMan over a year ago

yumsville

He'll be shaking hands with Trump once all the deals with the EU we're supposed to negotiate go tits up. They'll get along like a house on fire, he'll rise like a fucking phoenix after getting great deals on shitty made products and non approved pharmaceuticals and be crowned PM at the next election.

Place your bets?????????

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He'll be shaking hands with Trump once all the deals with the EU we're supposed to negotiate go tits up. They'll get along like a house on fire, he'll rise like a fucking phoenix after getting great deals on shitty made products and non approved pharmaceuticals and be crowned PM at the next election.

Place your bets?????????"

I back on the side of Boris, I think he will do well and put the majority of who put him down, to shame.

He has something to prove and he has the ability to do it, speaking 7 languages is fairly impressive too, sure will help with his position in communication.

so, lets wait and see,

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By *horehouseCouple over a year ago

dissatisfied

A better job for Boris would have been taking over from Chris evens on top gear ..and forget politics !!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A better job for Boris would have been taking over from Chris evens on top gear ..and forget politics !!!"

what flavour of sauce would you like on your words?

as you will be eating them soon

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By *horehouseCouple over a year ago

dissatisfied

"A better job for Boris would have been taking over from Chris evens on top gear ..and forget politics !!!

what flavour of sauce would you like on your words?

Time will tell..the mans a joke ...

as you will be eating them soon

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By *horehouseCouple over a year ago

dissatisfied

Bojo the clown can go on his all expenses paid world tour ..and make the rest of the world laugh ....

http://news.sky.com/story/may-takes-huge-gamble-on-maverick-johnson-10500934

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bojo the clown can go on his all expenses paid world tour ..and make the rest of the world laugh ....

http://news.sky.com/story/may-takes-huge-gamble-on-maverick-johnson-10500934"

but will they laugh to his face, I suspect not

don't believe all you read and most of all, have faith in the UK, you may be back here soon

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan"

And saying Clinton looked like a crazed nurse in a mental institution, slagging off Merkel, calling the commonwealth a bunch of flag waving piccaninnies, saying that we worst thing we did to Uganda was leaving them to govern themselves, praising Bashar Al Assad of Syria, describing the people of Papua New guinea of being cannibals, and he supports Iran having a nuclear deterrent

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?"

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries! "

you have to agree there is a bit of truth in all he said don't you agree,

even down to the cannibal part, I mean there is the The Korowai tribe

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries! "

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it"

He says racist things, what do we call people who say racist things?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it

He says racist things, what do we call people who say racist things? "

Remainers

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By *horehouseCouple over a year ago

dissatisfied

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it

He says racist things, what do we call people who say racist things? "

Ukip supporters.ukip mep's ..and loads I've left out

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

you have to agree there is a bit of truth in all he said don't you agree,

even down to the cannibal part, I mean there is the The Korowai tribe"

Please enlighten us with your scalpel like intellect as to the little bits of truth's in the above comments.

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it

He says racist things, what do we call people who say racist things?

Remainers"

No, we call them racists. What do we call people who agree with things that racists say?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it

He says racist things, what do we call people who say racist things?

Remainers

No, we call them racists. What do we call people who agree with things that racists say? "

Remainers.

What do we call people who say sorry Mr. Brain Surgeon, you are not welcome to live amongst us even though you give all your money to charity and do wonderful things for people because you are African. We would rather have a wife beating rapist unemployed burgler live among is by virtue of the fact that he is European, thank you very much.

Remainers.

Or racists, wear the hat that fits

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By *oodmessMan over a year ago

yumsville

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

you have to agree there is a bit of truth in all he said don't you agree,

even down to the cannibal part, I mean there is the The Korowai tribe"

referring to people as picaninnies .. with watermelon smiles? Yeah, you can certainly back them and pick them and give them all the bravos you want. Even at sewer level and you'd still find someone better than Boris.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

you have to agree there is a bit of truth in all he said don't you agree,

even down to the cannibal part, I mean there is the The Korowai tribe

been there?

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By *horehouseCouple over a year ago

dissatisfied

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it

He says racist things, what do we call people who say racist things?

Remainers

No, we call them racists. What do we call people who agree with things that racists say?

Remainers.

Or racists, wear the hat that fits"

Please give link to show where any African doctor was turned down due to a European immigrant comming in instead ..the only reason for an African doctor not going to the UK would be the racists in the country have put him or her off ..why someone should be put off by the actions of 17 million people as they are actually a minority in that country ..is a mystery maybe its the rise of racial hatred repoted I. The media ...

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By *ngel n tedCouple over a year ago

maidstone

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it

He says racist things, what do we call people who say racist things?

Remainers

No, we call them racists. What do we call people who agree with things that racists say? "

This word crops up a lot these days. There is a time and a place to use this word for genuine rascism, i do feel this word is being rather over used. Disagree with someone's point of view...rascist, put your socks on before your pants...rascist, have chicken for dinner on a tuesday

...rascist

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it

He says racist things, what do we call people who say racist things?

Remainers

No, we call them racists. What do we call people who agree with things that racists say?

Remainers.

Or racists, wear the hat that fits

substitute doctor for labourer then

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it

He says racist things, what do we call people who say racist things?

Remainers

No, we call them racists. What do we call people who agree with things that racists say?

Remainers.

Or racists, wear the hat that fits"

Nope, we call people who agree with racists, racists.

We have no hard numbers for immigration, so we dont turn people away because we are full. I haven't heard any Remainer call for a halt to immigration, just Brexiters.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it

He says racist things, what do we call people who say racist things?

Remainers

No, we call them racists. What do we call people who agree with things that racists say?

Remainers.

Or racists, wear the hat that fits

Nope, we call people who agree with racists, racists.

We have no hard numbers for immigration, so we dont turn people away because we are full. I haven't heard any Remainer call for a halt to immigration, just Brexiters. "

so what number would you call a halt at? 1 million a year? 5? 10? Whatever? and from wherever? Be honest

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it

He says racist things, what do we call people who say racist things?

Remainers

No, we call them racists. What do we call people who agree with things that racists say?

...rascist

Wikipedia:Pickaninny (also picaninny or piccaninny or pickinniny) is a term in English which refers to a racist and derogatory caricature of dark-skinned children of African descent.

Collins Dictionary:noun plural -nies

1. offensive a small Black or Aboriginal child

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By *oodmessMan over a year ago

yumsville

been there?"

And your third brain cell said... puffff

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it

He says racist things, what do we call people who say racist things?

Remainers

No, we call them racists. What do we call people who agree with things that racists say?

Remainers.

Or racists, wear the hat that fits

Nope, we call people who agree with racists, racists.

We have no hard numbers for immigration, so we dont turn people away because we are full. I haven't heard any Remainer call for a halt to immigration, just Brexiters.

so what number would you call a halt at? 1 million a year? 5? 10? Whatever? and from wherever? Be honest"

I am telling you what our current immigration policy is because you seemed to be confused and thought we were turning away doctors. Are you really asking me to create a new immigration policy?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries! "

Errr ... we already have a preferential Trade Agreement with the whole of the Commonwealth. And nothing to do with the EU.

Don't believe all you read from the EU ...

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By *obka3Couple over a year ago

bournemouth

Place your bets?????????

I back on the side of Boris, I think he will do well and put the majority of who put him down, to shame.

He has something to prove and he has the ability to do it, speaking 7 languages is fairly impressive too, sure will help with his position in communication.

so, lets wait and see, "

If he can talk to people in their own tongue he will get their respect much quicker, one things we brits are bad at abroad is not speaking other languages

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By *isandreTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

Errr ... we already have a preferential Trade Agreement with the whole of the Commonwealth. And nothing to do with the EU.

Don't believe all you read from the EU ..."

Errr... I think you are incorrect. Perhaps you can link us to the source where you read that?

I know that UKIP actually had in its 2010 manifesto a call for a Commonwealth Free Trade Agreement. Seems a bit dumb to ask for something if we already have it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Errr ... we already have a preferential Trade Agreement with the whole of the Commonwealth. And nothing to do with the EU.

Don't believe all you read from the EU ...

Errr... I think you are incorrect. Perhaps you can link us to the source where you read that?

I know that UKIP actually had in its 2010 manifesto a call for a Commonwealth Free Trade Agreement. Seems a bit dumb to ask for something if we already have it. "

Do not confuse a 'Free Trade Agreement' (which most people think means tariff free trade) with Bilateral trade agreements. But as far as the Commonwealth goes the quote from this document (from September 2012 after the UKIP manifesto) is:

"The Commonwealth gives preferential trade access to its member countries, including the UK."

https://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/uk-trade-relations-commonwealth

from this page you can scroll down and link into the other pages of the document which was issued when the Coalition Government was encouraging UK Business to export more to non EU countries. At which they have been increasingly successful.

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By *ngel n tedCouple over a year ago

maidstone

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it

He says racist things, what do we call people who say racist things?

Remainers

No, we call them racists. What do we call people who agree with things that racists say?

...rascist

Wikipedia:Pickaninny (also picaninny or piccaninny or pickinniny) is a term in English which refers to a racist and derogatory caricature of dark-skinned children of African descent.

Collins Dictionary:noun plural -nies

1. offensive a small Black or Aboriginal child"

Da fuq? Where did that come from, are we all rascist by association for using wiki or something

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By *isandreTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

Yes, but it doesn't say that we have preferential trade agreements as a result of negotiations we made independently of the EU.

I think you need to look carefully at the wording. I grant you it is worded in such a way to make you think what you do.

'The UK has close RELATIONS with the Commonwealth, and the Commonwealth secretariat is in London. The European Union (EU) also has close TIES with Commonwealth countries.'

'The UK and the Commonwealth agree on the general benefits of reducing barriers to trade, '

'The Commonwealth gives preferential trade access to its member countries, including the UK.'

'Commonwealth countries are ALSO part of several regional trade groups, including:

the North American Free Trade Agreement

Africa, Caribbean and Pacific countries, which have a trade and aid agreement with the EU

the African Union

the Association of South East Asian Nations

the Asia Pacific Economic Co-operation

the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas

The EU and the UK have trade agreements with most of these organisations.'

The way it is phrased is misleading. We have preferential trade agreements, but that is because the Commonwealth has them with the EU because the EU has an awful lot of agreements negotiated (something we will lose automatically and probably have to spend about a decade negotiating if only we can find about 10 times the experts we currently have to do this).

That happened because we pushed for it from within the EU. Perhaps, as part of the Commonwealth even when we Brexit, we will retain this preferential status with the EU via our Commonwealth status, perhaps not.

Anyway, the fact is

'While being in the EU means that the UK doesn’t sign its own trade deals, the

facts suggest that, as part of the world’s biggest trading bloc…

…the UK has access to more markets'

see the linked CBI factsheet below

http://news.cbi.org.uk/business-issues/uk-and-the-european-union/eu-business-facts/10-facts-about-eu-trade-deals-pdf/

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"He's proved to be very popular abroad , they seem to like him.

It may just work.

Apart from that poem he wrote about the Turkish president and calling Obama a part time Kenyan

whats wrong with any of that?

Well I thought you wanted to make a load of trade deals with the commonwealth? He is the foreign Secretary and he is making racist comments to those countries!

no he isn't. I call my mate a cunt at times but he knows I don't mean it. The Brits and Aussies for example have been taking the piss out of eachother since we first deported them

. He's a human face for a change, embrace it

He says racist things, what do we call people who say racist things?

Remainers

No, we call them racists. What do we call people who agree with things that racists say?

...rascist

Wikipedia:Pickaninny (also picaninny or piccaninny or pickinniny) is a term in English which refers to a racist and derogatory caricature of dark-skinned children of African descent.

Collins Dictionary:noun plural -nies

1. offensive a small Black or Aboriginal child

Da fuq? Where did that come from, are we all rascist by association for using wiki or something"

What? I didn’t understand that at all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Place your bets?????????

I back on the side of Boris, I think he will do well and put the majority of who put him down, to shame.

He has something to prove and he has the ability to do it, speaking 7 languages is fairly impressive too, sure will help with his position in communication.

so, lets wait and see,

If he can talk to people in their own tongue he will get their respect much quicker, one things we brits are bad at abroad is not speaking other languages "

agreed, and he is an optimist unlike the majority of pessimistic views on this thread,

the pessimists will soon be eating their words

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Errr ... we already have a preferential Trade Agreement with the whole of the Commonwealth. And nothing to do with the EU.

Don't believe all you read from the EU ...

Errr... I think you are incorrect. Perhaps you can link us to the source where you read that?

I know that UKIP actually had in its 2010 manifesto a call for a Commonwealth Free Trade Agreement. Seems a bit dumb to ask for something if we already have it.

"The Commonwealth gives preferential trade access to its member countries, including the UK."

https://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/uk-trade-relations-commonwealth

And when you scroll down and look at the links you find nothing about the details of those preferential trade agreements. I guess that's why when I asked before what the details were, there was no answer.

Meanwhile at this very moment we have, through membership of the EU free trade agreements (that's better than preferential trade agreements) with many commonwealth countries. I'll leave it to Professor Steve Peers

Professor of EU Law and Human Rights Law, University of Essex and his article “The EU and the Commonwealth: The UK can have the best of both worlds” who writes:

"... because it is a customs union with a common trade policy, the EU does have powers on the sort of trade deals which concern government regulation. But since the UK joined the EU over 40 years ago, the EU’s trade policy has been transformed, in part at the UK’s urging. The EU no longer focusses on trade deals with neighbouring countries only, but has been negotiating deals with states across the world.

For the Commonwealth in particular, this policy change means that the EU has agreed free trade agreements (FTAs), or is in the process of negotiating free trade agreements, with the vast majority of Commonwealth states – a full 90% of the 50 Commonwealth countries that are not in the EU. This includes the six Commonwealth states that accounted (in 2011) for 84% of Commonwealth trade – and many more besides.

More precisely, there are already FTAs in force between the EU and 18 of those 50 Commonwealth states (36% of the remaining Commonwealth). The EU has agreed FTAs with 14 of those countries (28%), subject only to completing the ratification process. It is negotiating or about to start negotiating FTAs with 13 states (26%). That leaves only 5 Commonwealth states (10% of the non-EU total) that the EU is not planning FTA talks with.

So errr our trade relationships with the commonwealth are very much tied up with our relationship with the EU.

But you carry on trying to sell a step backwards as progress. It's very entertaining.

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"Yes, but it doesn't say that we have preferential trade agreements as a result of negotiations we made independently of the EU.

I think you need to look carefully at the wording. I grant you it is worded in such a way to make you think what you do.

'The UK has close RELATIONS with the Commonwealth, and the Commonwealth secretariat is in London. The European Union (EU) also has close TIES with Commonwealth countries.'

'The UK and the Commonwealth agree on the general benefits of reducing barriers to trade, '

'The Commonwealth gives preferential trade access to its member countries, including the UK.'

'Commonwealth countries are ALSO part of several regional trade groups, including:

the North American Free Trade Agreement

Africa, Caribbean and Pacific countries, which have a trade and aid agreement with the EU

the African Union

the Association of South East Asian Nations

the Asia Pacific Economic Co-operation

the Free Trade Agreement of the Americas

The EU and the UK have trade agreements with most of these organisations.'

Anyway, the fact is

'While being in the EU means that the UK doesn’t sign its own trade deals, the

facts suggest that, as part of the world’s biggest trading bloc…

…the UK has access to more markets'

see the linked CBI factsheet below

http://news.cbi.org.uk/business-issues/uk-and-the-european-union/eu-business-facts/10-facts-about-eu-trade-deals-pdf/

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" So errr our trade relationships with the commonwealth are very much tied up with our relationship with the EU. "

Well no shit Sherlock of course our trade relations are tied up by the EU. Its why we need to get the hell out!!

But to your point: So we never traded with the Commonwealth before the EU came into existence 20 years ago? or the EEC we joined 40 years ago? We owe our trading history entirely to the EU? I don't think so.

And here is a little tit bit for you. Chrystia Freeland the Trade Minister of Canada has been quietly exchanging details of their 'CETA' agreement with the EU with us and are working to make that the basis for a wider 'post Brexit' Trade Agreement. The USA is already in preliminary negotiations about a wider post Brexit trade deal. India wants a new British Trade etc etc. We traded with these countries before we joined the EEC and we will continue after. All the EU did was erect trade barriers for other countries to 'protect' its wonderfully failed 'Single Market'. It never opened up ONE market we weren't already trading with.

Argue clever words, semantics and make different meanings all you like. Its something you are really good at. Sadly. Bottom line is Remainers and forecasters of doom and gloom like you LOST. Period. End of. And you can't accept it. Very sad.

This Country WILL succeed and it WILL create a new place for itself on the Global Stage and you can jog off and watch the EU crumble to bits failing generations of young people with its beaurocracy, corruption and inward looking protectionism.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" So errr our trade relationships with the commonwealth are very much tied up with our relationship with the EU.

Well no shit Sherlock of course our trade relations are tied up by the EU. Its why we need to get the hell out!!

I like the truth, something that's vastly missing from your sermons. I heard the Canadian trade minister on radio 4 this morning and she was very positive that the UK would get better benefits from the trade agreement it will have with Canada as a member of the EU and very wary about promising anything beyond that. You, in cloud cuckoo land, can make up what you like.

Meanwhile we have a massive number of free trade agreements with commonwealth countries through EU membership. You will have us going back to ground zero. Stop trying to sell us that particular turd as if was a gold ingot.

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By *oodmessMan over a year ago

yumsville

" So errr our trade relationships with the commonwealth are very much tied up with our relationship with the EU.

Well no shit Sherlock of course our trade relations are tied up by the EU. Its why we need to get the hell out!!

The reality of what you are saying is: you are taking away one bureaucracy and we will now have to use a lot of long words that we don't yet know the consequences of with with every single country country we are going to deal with. Thereby, creating another ministry of bureaucracy.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

" So errr our trade relationships with the commonwealth are very much tied up with our relationship with the EU.

Well no shit Sherlock of course our trade relations are tied up by the EU. Its why we need to get the hell out!!

it was interesting to hear her comment that Canada has 300 people just dealing with trade deals..

whilst I can't be arsed doing the google thing I think there may well be a need to increase our own cadre of such folks...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" So errr our trade relationships with the commonwealth are very much tied up with our relationship with the EU.

Well no shit Sherlock of course our trade relations are tied up by the EU. Its why we need to get the hell out!!

In which case I am not sure you understand what a bureaucracy is? The EU has progressively invaded every aspect of our daily lives and created a huge organisation to retain control and direct how people should live their lives and trade with others. It has sucked individual nation's abilities to act and think independently (as we are finding with trade negotiators) and taken control from the centre. That is a very negative, damaging and inefficient bureaucracy and the construct is why it has taken Canada so long to get a trade deal. Australia can't get a deal because of Italian tomato growers for example. And it is the same EU are so out of touch with the new reality they are threatening us because we are starting to talk with other nations on our own. Why? Because we haven't left the EU!

And what is wrong with long words if they are the right words?

We will not face those difficulties with other countries. For a start each one is an individual country and not just 1/27th of a political entity. We do not need to totally re-negotiate every deal. Lets take the USA: We ask them if the deal we currently have (overseen by the EU) is satisfactory. They are hardly liable to say no as those are the terms under which we do some $114 Bn a year trade. We could harmonise tariffs in the process but if both agree to carry on as now we just change the names on the paper from EU to UK. The alternative is uncertainty and loss of trade and no one will want that.

Call me simplistic but when two parties agree to carry on as before it really is that simple.

That isn't to say we can do that with the EU. Well we could but the EU are never going to get past the problem of 27 opinions ....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Reading all the vitriol from the usual "I can be offended by anything" crew....you would never think that the title of the thread is hahahahaha.....can we just chill a little?

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By *essiCouple over a year ago

suffolk

As the saying goes...keep your friends close and your enemies closer..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hornayas2016 is simplistic.

The EU has existing trade deals covering 84% of commonwealth trade. That's through deals in existence with 18 of the 50 non EU commonwealth countries. The EU has a trade deal agreed with 14 more commonwealth countries in the process of ratification.

That's 32 out of 50 negotiated by the EU bloc of 28 countries, no problems 14 more are under negotiation. 2 more don't need to be negotiated because they are commonwealth countries in the EU.

The simplistic view is that those deals don't exist because it's simple to imagine that trade negotiators haven't done a good job for the UK.

Simple but untrue.

That to one side, there is no UK trade agreement with the USA. There doesn't need to be one. There may be trade deals, as there always have been within the EU and before. The simplistic viewpoint mixes up reality with cloud cuckoo land.

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By *isandreTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

it was interesting to hear her comment that Canada has 300 people just dealing with trade deals..

whilst I can't be arsed doing the google thing I think there may well be a need to increase our own cadre of such folks..."

'An initial government review has revealed Whitehall has only 20 “active hands-on” trade negotiators, and will be up against 600 experienced trade specialists for the European commission, Sir Simon Fraser, the former permanent secretary at the Foreign Office disclosed.

Fraser made his remarks at a foreign affairs select committee session...

He said the coming trade negotiations are painstaking line-by-line, sector-by-sector work, and the current lack of capacity would require the UK government to search for skilled negotiators outside Whitehall.'

Yep, we are going to get a good deal.

That is the thing. The person who said we traded with the rest of the world before the EU is missing the point.

It is all about the TERMS we trade under. It seems like every where else is forming partnerships and trading blocs around the world and yet we have decided to isolate ourselves.

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By *isandreTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

bit more detail on how canada did trade with EU:-

"The UK has sought advice from Canada on how to cut a trade agreement with the European Union following the Brexit vote.

Chrystia Freeland, Canada’s trade minister who is scheduled to meet Liam Fox, the UK’s new secretary of state for international trade, on Friday afternoon, told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme her team had been having “technical exchanges” with the UK about its recently finalised deal with the EU.

David Davis, the new minister for Brexit, said on Thursday that his preferred model for the UK’s ongoing relationship with the EU is Canada’s comprehensive and economic trade agreement, known as Ceta.

Freeland said on Friday: “We have been sharing at a technical level, details of how Ceta works.”

However, she said securing such deals was “very very complicated”. She added: “There are 300 trade negotiators in Canada. It takes a big expert team to negotiate trade agreements,” Freeland said.

The UK does not have the expertise to negotiate trade deals, as for decades agreements have been conducted at EU level. Whitehall is scouring business, the European commission, and friendly countries including Canada, for trade specialists to help lead talks.

The government has said it plans to hire up to 300 staff in a bid to address a shortage of trade negotiators capable of forging closer economic ties to dozens of other countries.

Global trade deals will be bigger outside than in the EU, says David Davis

Philip Hammond, said last week – before he switched from foreign secretary to his new job as chancellor – that the UK had a shortage of trade negotiators and may need to hire staff from abroad to get the necessary expertise.

Davis has said that article 50, the formal process for negotiating the UK’s exit from the EU, should not be triggered until the end of the year, from when Britain would have two years to negotiate its trading terms with the 27-nation bloc.

Canada took seven years to finalise its deal with the EU and it is not expected to be implemented until 2017.

A top US trade official said on Thursday that he had already held preliminary discussions with British officials about how the two countries could pursue bilateral trade relations post Brexit.

Freeland said Canada had secured a “gold standard” deal with the EU. However, she made clear that while it had secured “ambitious services agreements”, it would not enjoy the same level of “passporting” that the UK currently has as a member state – a status that enables banks and financial services businesses to trade freely.

The Canadian deal also doesn’t offer the same level of freedom of movement for professionals as that within EU member states. While the control of borders and worker movement is something argued for by Brexiters, Freeland said: “Canada’s position is to be ambitious in mobility. We think that facilitates trade.”

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hornayas2016 is simplistic.

That's 32 out of 50 negotiated by the EU bloc of 28 countries, no problems 14 more are under negotiation. 2 more don't need to be negotiated because they are commonwealth countries in the EU.

The simplistic view is that those deals don't exist because it's simple to imagine that trade negotiators haven't done a good job for the UK.

Simple but untrue.

More word twisting from the re-writer in chief.

What part of 'If two parties agree to a change then it changes' don't you quite understand? Say we trade with the USA under an EU agreement: We take that agreement and agree we and the USA can continue trading on a Bilateral basis by using the same terms as the EU agreement. It then becomes a UK / USA Bilateral Trade AGreement.

How bloody simple is that? Anyone who has had involvement with the principles of TUPE will understand. An Agreement can be transferred intact to another party by agreement.

SIMPLES!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"bit more detail on how canada did trade with EU:-

"The UK has sought advice from Canada on how to cut a trade agreement with the European Union following the Brexit vote.

Freeland said on Friday: “We have been sharing at a technical level, details of how Ceta works.”

The government has said it plans to hire up to 300 staff in a bid to address a shortage of trade negotiators capable of forging closer economic ties to dozens of other countries.

Global trade deals will be bigger outside than in the EU, says David Davis

Canada took seven years to finalise its deal with the EU and it is not expected to be implemented until 2017.

A top US trade official said on Thursday that he had already held preliminary discussions with British officials about how the two countries could pursue bilateral trade relations post Brexit.

Except that CETA isn't actually in place with the EU yet but never mind.

I take it you missed the important parts of my comments which were just that CETA details were being shared with the UK. That we were looking at it. That is all I said. I never said that it was what we should adopt did I?

Of course a comprehensive new deal will need to be tailored to the UK / Canada / Commonwealth scenario and that will take time but the key thing I was trying to point out in the context of my reply to others is that many countries are now seeking to both assist us with trade agreements in general and seek new agreements. There is a huge amount of goodwill towards us. Except from sore loser Remainers of course.

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By *isandreTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

I know it isn't in place yet.

Out of interest, how long do you think it will take to get the trade deal with the EU finalised?

Should we get that one done first and then move on to one with Canada, then America, India, China, Iceland, Peru etc or should we do them all at once?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hornayas2016 is simplistic.

That's 32 out of 50 negotiated by the EU bloc of 28 countries, no problems 14 more are under negotiation. 2 more don't need to be negotiated because they are commonwealth countries in the EU.

The simplistic view is that those deals don't exist because it's simple to imagine that trade negotiators haven't done a good job for the UK.

Simple but untrue.

More word twisting from the re-writer in chief.

How bloody simple is that? Anyone who has had involvement with the principles of TUPE will understand. An Agreement can be transferred intact to another party by agreement.

SIMPLES!

You've clearly never been involved in TUPE negotiations. Trying to map them onto international trade deals is simplistic.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know it isn't in place yet.

Out of interest, how long do you think it will take to get the trade deal with the EU finalised?

Should we get that one done first and then move on to one with Canada, then America, India, China, Iceland, Peru etc or should we do them all at once?"

We now have a Department for International Trade who will negotiate non-EU trade deals and transitions. deals will take as long as they take but trade will not be interrupted in any way.

The Department for Brexit has the dual task of first just getting us out (which is easier than people realise and does not have to take 2 years) and then the more difficult task of agreeing a sensible trade deal with an EU renowned for not being very sensible. And why we are already having direct talks with the key players like Merkel, Hollande and others. The EU itself buys and sells nothing. It just tells others how to do it. We trade with people in countries who like our goods as we like theirs. THEY will decide the new look of a UK / EU deal not Juncker or Tusk ... How long? Who knows but again trade will carry on as now until any new deal is done. Knowing the EU needs 27 nations to ratfy it I guess a new deal could take 7 years.

So in answer I believe we will just go all out to get some early results and we are capable of doing more than one thing at a time.

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"I know it isn't in place yet.

Out of interest, how long do you think it will take to get the trade deal with the EU finalised?

Should we get that one done first and then move on to one with Canada, then America, India, China, Iceland, Peru etc or should we do them all at once?

We now have a Department for International Trade who will negotiate non-EU trade deals and transitions. deals will take as long as they take but trade will not be interrupted in any way.

So in answer I believe we will just go all out to get some early results and we are capable of doing more than one thing at a time."

Can you quote any sources from senior civil servants, EU commissioners, foreign secretaries etc. who have stated that the talks will take less than two years?

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By *isandreTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

Under what terms will we Trade until the new deal is sorted out?

With 20 negotiators? They will be spread quite thin. Do you think they will be spread a bit too thin to get a good deal?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

More word twisting from the re-writer in chief.

How bloody simple is that? Anyone who has had involvement with the principles of TUPE will understand. An Agreement can be transferred intact to another party by agreement.

SIMPLES!

You've clearly never been involved in TUPE negotiations. Trying to map them onto international trade deals is simplistic."

Oh look the fucking expert has spoken bullshit again.... look pal I am getting mighty fed up with you making personal observations about me. YOU know sod all about ME, so maybe back the fucking truck up OK? What exactly do YOU know about TUPE?

And again I NEVER fucking mapped any damn thing. I suggested the PRINCIPLE of transferring agreements from one party to another WITH AGREEMENT was a similar PRINCIPLE.

For the record I have negotiated about 16 TPL contracts where staff were transferred from one logistics supplier to the company / ies I represented. In all cases it was procedurally easy. The only delays were when the relative Unions asked for extra benefits which took time to work through. Others were done in about a week ...

OK? Got That? We clear?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

More word twisting from the re-writer in chief.

How bloody simple is that? Anyone who has had involvement with the principles of TUPE will understand. An Agreement can be transferred intact to another party by agreement.

SIMPLES!

You've clearly never been involved in TUPE negotiations. Trying to map them onto international trade deals is simplistic.

And again I NEVER fucking mapped any damn thing. I suggested the PRINCIPLE of transferring agreements from one party to another WITH AGREEMENT was a similar PRINCIPLE.

OK? Got That? We clear?"

With your track record of fibbing, the only thing that's clear is your false outrage, Old Son

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I know it isn't in place yet.

Out of interest, how long do you think it will take to get the trade deal with the EU finalised?

Should we get that one done first and then move on to one with Canada, then America, India, China, Iceland, Peru etc or should we do them all at once?

We now have a Department for International Trade who will negotiate non-EU trade deals and transitions. deals will take as long as they take but trade will not be interrupted in any way.

So in answer I believe we will just go all out to get some early results and we are capable of doing more than one thing at a time.

Can you quote any sources from senior civil servants, EU commissioners, foreign secretaries etc. who have stated that the talks will take less than two years?"

I offered an opinion. People confuse leaving the EU with agreeing a trade deal. The EU itself has said we must leave BEFORE negotiating said trade deal. Therefore the act of leaving can be down to one simple facet: The security and respect of EU citizens living here and Brits living in the EU. Everything else can be thrown in the 'trade deal'

An opinion.

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By *isandreTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

But the people with experience in these sort of negotiations all say these things are notoriously difficult and take more like 7 years if you are lucky.

I really think we should take heed of experts, don't you?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

it was interesting to hear her comment that Canada has 300 people just dealing with trade deals..

whilst I can't be arsed doing the google thing I think there may well be a need to increase our own cadre of such folks...

Fraser made his remarks at a foreign affairs select committee session...

Yep, we are going to get a good deal.

That is the thing. The person who said we traded with the rest of the world before the EU is missing the point.

It is all about the TERMS we trade under. It seems like every where else is forming partnerships and trading blocs around the world and yet we have decided to isolate ourselves.

given what has been said about sorting out what we actually want before we push the article 50 button it could be well into the next Parliament and we will still be in the EU..

there'll be some on these threads on beta blockers or in a padded cell by then..

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By *horehouseCouple over a year ago

dissatisfied

it was interesting to hear her comment that Canada has 300 people just dealing with trade deals..

whilst I can't be arsed doing the google thing I think there may well be a need to increase our own cadre of such folks...

Fraser made his remarks at a foreign affairs select committee session...

Yep, we are going to get a good deal.

That is the thing. The person who said we traded with the rest of the world before the EU is missing the point.

It is all about the TERMS we trade under. It seems like every where else is forming partnerships and trading blocs around the world and yet we have decided to isolate ourselves.

given what has been said about sorting out what we actually want before we push the article 50 button it could be well into the next Parliament and we will still be in the EU..

there'll be some on these threads on beta blockers or in a padded cell by then..

Padded cell will suit them fine ...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Under what terms will we Trade until the new deal is sorted out?

With 20 negotiators? They will be spread quite thin. Do you think they will be spread a bit too thin to get a good deal?"

Forgive me mentioning it but unlike the Remain side on here I am not an expert in every damn thing. We have very good people on a higher pay grade than me who will do all that. Write to Messrs Davies and Fox.

All I have tried to do is offer an alternative view with sources where possible but then get my words twisted, accused of saying stuff I haven't, sarcasm and bullshit thrown my way.

So forgive me if I don't bother with this any more ...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

it was interesting to hear her comment that Canada has 300 people just dealing with trade deals..

whilst I can't be arsed doing the google thing I think there may well be a need to increase our own cadre of such folks...

Fraser made his remarks at a foreign affairs select committee session...

Yep, we are going to get a good deal.

That is the thing. The person who said we traded with the rest of the world before the EU is missing the point.

It is all about the TERMS we trade under. It seems like every where else is forming partnerships and trading blocs around the world and yet we have decided to isolate ourselves.

given what has been said about sorting out what we actually want before we push the article 50 button it could be well into the next Parliament and we will still be in the EU..

there'll be some on these threads on beta blockers or in a padded cell by then..

Padded cell will suit them fine ..."

Luckily they (or I) have got nothing at all to do with negotiations or that nice Mr Cameron's prediction of war and pestilence would come true too.

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By *horehouseCouple over a year ago

dissatisfied

"Under what terms will we Trade until the new deal is sorted out?

With 20 negotiators? They will be spread quite thin. Do you think they will be spread a bit too thin to get a good deal?

All I have tried to do is offer an alternative view with sources where possible but then get my words twisted, accused of saying stuff I haven't, sarcasm and bullshit thrown my way.

So forgive me if I don't bother with this any more ..."

Ok byeeeeeeee

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By *isandreTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

So, two years to negotiate the exit, then 7 years to negotiate a new deal.

Nine years before we have trading terms that are much more what we like and indeed have now.

It is going to be the same with every other country as well.

In the meantime we will operate under WTO rules. The EU will have to trade with us with the same tariffs they impose on the rest of the world they haven't negotiated a separate trade deal with. That is about 50% of all our trade.

Prices will go up.

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By *isandreTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

Mr Davis, decent man though he is, is by no means an expert. That is why we are in this mess, such disdain for experts and consideration of details.

“Post Brexit a UK-German deal would include free access for their cars and industrial goods, in exchange for a deal on everything else,” he said on 26 May this year.

“Similar deals would be reached with other key EU nations. France would want to protect £3 billion of food and wine exports. Italy, its £1 billion fashion exports. Poland its £3 billion manufacturing exports.”

He is lead negotiator and yet as recently as May he thought the UK would be able to negotiate deals with individual countries in the EU. Oh dear.

It is quite worrying that he made his mind up about where he stood on the EU referendum and then played a part persuading others, who had a reasonable right to expect him to know a bit about what he was talking about, how to vote, without understanding something so fundamental.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"So, two years to negotiate the exit, then 7 years to negotiate a new deal.

Nine years before we have trading terms that are much more what we like and indeed have now.

It is going to be the same with every other country as well.

Prices will go up.

it will all be ok though as we will be 'Great' again, and there will be no free movement and the NHS will be sorted with the money that we will have saved..

or will it be that because prices of goods will increase that people will buy less and the tax to the chancellor will drop and there will be a longer austerity period and the money that the NHS was meant to get will be spent on employing several hundred new trade negotiators (not foreign ones either)..

disclaimer, accepting of the result does not mean one is unpatriotic because one has valid questions or concerns..

and one is a half full type of guy in any case so yah boo to that jibe..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Under what terms will we Trade until the new deal is sorted out?

With 20 negotiators? They will be spread quite thin. Do you think they will be spread a bit too thin to get a good deal?

All I have tried to do is offer an alternative view with sources where possible but then get my words twisted, accused of saying stuff I haven't, sarcasm and bullshit thrown my way.

So forgive me if I don't bother with this any more ..."

Toys/Prams ?

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By *horehouseCouple over a year ago

dissatisfied

Lets take bets how long he stays in office before a reshuffle..my guess 18 months

But Mr Johnson's appointment came in for unprecedented diplomatic criticism from counterparts across the worldHis German and French direct opposite numbers called him "outrageous", "irresponsible" and "a liar" for some of his comments during the referendum.

Mr Johnson's drawing of parallels between the EU's aims for a united Europe and that of Hitler has not been forgotten in European capitals.

The French foreign minister Jean-Marc Ayrault earlier accused his new counterpart of lying, saying: "He lied a lot to the British people and now it is him who has his back against the wall

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Under what terms will we Trade until the new deal is sorted out?

With 20 negotiators? They will be spread quite thin. Do you think they will be spread a bit too thin to get a good deal?

All I have tried to do is offer an alternative view with sources where possible but then get my words twisted, accused of saying stuff I haven't, sarcasm and bullshit thrown my way.

So forgive me if I don't bother with this any more ...

Toys/Prams ?

I was being asked stuff I didn't feel I could get into especially as it appears whatever is said is then twisted. So no toys. No Prams just not continuing a conversation ....

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"But the people with experience in these sort of negotiations all say these things are notoriously difficult and take more like 7 years if you are lucky.

I really think we should take heed of experts, don't you?"

I think the experts know more than a bunch of swingers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Boris Johnson is foreign secretary loool"

And?

I would guess he has considerably good links with many foreign countries from his two terms as mayor of London.

He is a good ambassador. He adds the human touch to politics in many ways.

Would love to see how his critics on here would fare in the spotlight.

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"Boris Johnson is foreign secretary loool

And?

I would guess he has considerably good links with many foreign countries from his two terms as mayor of London.

He is a good ambassador. He adds the human touch to politics in many ways.

Would love to see how his critics on here would fare in the spotlight.

Not making racist comments would be a good start.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

it was interesting to hear her comment that Canada has 300 people just dealing with trade deals..

whilst I can't be arsed doing the google thing I think there may well be a need to increase our own cadre of such folks...

Fraser made his remarks at a foreign affairs select committee session...

Yep, we are going to get a good deal.

That is the thing. The person who said we traded with the rest of the world before the EU is missing the point.

It is all about the TERMS we trade under. It seems like every where else is forming partnerships and trading blocs around the world and yet we have decided to isolate ourselves.

given what has been said about sorting out what we actually want before we push the article 50 button it could be well into the next Parliament and we will still be in the EU..

there'll be some on these threads on beta blockers or in a padded cell by then..

It is in everyone's interest to negotiate quickly and fairly.

And in the meantime, life goes on. The sun rises and sets.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Boris Johnson is foreign secretary loool

And?

I would guess he has considerably good links with many foreign countries from his two terms as mayor of London.

He is a good ambassador. He adds the human touch to politics in many ways.

Would love to see how his critics on here would fare in the spotlight.

Not making racist comments would be a good start. "

Ah the racist card!

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By *isandreTV/TS over a year ago

Durham

It's in everyone's interest not to negotiate at all and stay in the EU.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Independent has published a map of all the countries he's insulted!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Boris Johnson is foreign secretary loool

And?

I would guess he has considerably good links with many foreign countries from his two terms as mayor of London.

He is a good ambassador. He adds the human touch to politics in many ways.

Would love to see how his critics on here would fare in the spotlight.

well were I to have been in his shoes as Mayor one thing I would not have done would be to have used public funds to invent a salaried position on the fire authority to entice someone to defect from one party to his own in order to get his way and close stations..

and when they were suspended from office due to financial irregularities which he as Mayor knew about before he invented the new position he then said that in order to get his way he would use imaginary Mayors prerogative go ignore the democracy of those elected to serve on that committee..

the amount of people who have only seen him on have I got news for you and think yeah must have been great as Mayor is ironically funny..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Boris Johnson is foreign secretary loool

And?

I would guess he has considerably good links with many foreign countries from his two terms as mayor of London.

He is a good ambassador. He adds the human touch to politics in many ways.

Would love to see how his critics on here would fare in the spotlight.

the amount of people who have only seen him on have I got news for you and think yeah must have been great as Mayor is ironically funny.."

I have no idea if what you say is right. And everyone has their own views on how an individual conducts themselves, be they politician or a swinger, for example

What I am saying is let's judge him as a Foreign Secretary on his future actions.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Boris Johnson is foreign secretary loool

And?

I would guess he has considerably good links with many foreign countries from his two terms as mayor of London.

He is a good ambassador. He adds the human touch to politics in many ways.

Would love to see how his critics on here would fare in the spotlight.

the amount of people who have only seen him on have I got news for you and think yeah must have been great as Mayor is ironically funny..

I have no idea if what you say is right. And everyone has their own views on how an individual conducts themselves, be they politician or a swinger, for example

What I am saying is let's judge him as a Foreign Secretary on his future actions. "

I may have had a good imagination as a kid but its all there in the LFEPA/LFB minutes, his appointment was suspended and the Met stepped in..

agree on judging him in his new role which I think is a shrewd move by May..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Boris Johnson is foreign secretary loool

And?

I would guess he has considerably good links with many foreign countries from his two terms as mayor of London.

He is a good ambassador. He adds the human touch to politics in many ways.

Would love to see how his critics on here would fare in the spotlight.

the amount of people who have only seen him on have I got news for you and think yeah must have been great as Mayor is ironically funny..

I have no idea if what you say is right. And everyone has their own views on how an individual conducts themselves, be they politician or a swinger, for example

What I am saying is let's judge him as a Foreign Secretary on his future actions.

I may have had a good imagination as a kid but its all there in the LFEPA/LFB minutes, his appointment was suspended and the Met stepped in..

agree on judging him in his new role which I think is a shrewd move by May.. "

Theresa May is no fool. She recognised Boris' strengths and is sure to play them to her advantage!