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As I said before funny how the tories across the country demanded a general election when brown was nominated to take over from Blair. But as soon as the tories take control they change the rules to make sure they keep there rule. |
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"As I said before funny how the tories across the country demanded a general election when brown was nominated to take over from Blair. But as soon as the tories take control they change the rules to make sure they keep there rule. "
But there weren't fixed term parliaments then.
Not that the Tories would give one anyway  |
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"As I said before funny how the tories across the country demanded a general election when brown was nominated to take over from Blair. But as soon as the tories take control they change the rules to make sure they keep there rule. "
That's fine let's have an election result will be bigger tory majority and as earliest they could realistically hold it would be autumn tory government till 2021
Oh and however certain the result the markets would fall again and sterling would fall again
Do you really want that |
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"As I said before funny how the tories across the country demanded a general election when brown was nominated to take over from Blair. But as soon as the tories take control they change the rules to make sure they keep there rule.
That's fine let's have an election result will be bigger tory majority and as earliest they could realistically hold it would be autumn tory government till 2021
Oh and however certain the result the markets would fall again and sterling would fall again
Do you really want that"
To quote many a brexiter "the markets will settle down again" so why not? At least then we'd have a choice much like the tories moaned about with brown. But as always one rule for one one rule for another. |
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"As I said before funny how the tories across the country demanded a general election when brown was nominated to take over from Blair. But as soon as the tories take control they change the rules to make sure they keep there rule.
That's fine let's have an election result will be bigger tory majority and as earliest they could realistically hold it would be autumn tory government till 2021
Oh and however certain the result the markets would fall again and sterling would fall again
Do you really want that
To quote many a brexiter "the markets will settle down again" so why not? At least then we'd have a choice much like the tories moaned about with brown. But as always one rule for one one rule for another. "
We do not elect Prime Ministers we elect MPs who elect a leader who is asked to form a Government.
Unlike in Brown's case Cameron said he was not standing again and was elected on that basis. So all that has happened is what the Electorate were told. Just maybe a year or so earlier than Cameron expected.
In a fixed term Parliamentary system Mrs May cannot ask her Majesty to dissolve Parliament unless she loses a Vote of Confidence.
And we need more elections and referendums like a hole in the head ... |
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"As I said before funny how the tories across the country demanded a general election when brown was nominated to take over from Blair. But as soon as the tories take control they change the rules to make sure they keep there rule.
But there weren't fixed term parliaments then.
Not that the Tories would give one anyway "
For which the Labour Party are no doubt eternally grateful ...  |
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"As I said before funny how the tories across the country demanded a general election when brown was nominated to take over from Blair. But as soon as the tories take control they change the rules to make sure they keep there rule.
That's fine let's have an election result will be bigger tory majority and as earliest they could realistically hold it would be autumn tory government till 2021
Oh and however certain the result the markets would fall again and sterling would fall again
Do you really want that
To quote many a brexiter "the markets will settle down again" so why not? At least then we'd have a choice much like the tories moaned about with brown. But as always one rule for one one rule for another.
We do not elect Prime Ministers we elect MPs who elect a leader who is asked to form a Government.
Unlike in Brown's case Cameron said he was not standing again and was elected on that basis. So all that has happened is what the Electorate were told. Just maybe a year or so earlier than Cameron expected.
In a fixed term Parliamentary system Mrs May cannot ask her Majesty to dissolve Parliament unless she loses a Vote of Confidence.
And we need more elections and referendums like a hole in the head ..."
So there's little difference between with Cameron's case or Browns except that an election for brown worked in the tories favour! Like I said before changed the rule to suit them. |
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"As I said before funny how the tories across the country demanded a general election when brown was nominated to take over from Blair. But as soon as the tories take control they change the rules to make sure they keep there rule.
That's fine let's have an election result will be bigger tory majority and as earliest they could realistically hold it would be autumn tory government till 2021
Oh and however certain the result the markets would fall again and sterling would fall again
Do you really want that
To quote many a brexiter "the markets will settle down again" so why not? At least then we'd have a choice much like the tories moaned about with brown. But as always one rule for one one rule for another.
We do not elect Prime Ministers we elect MPs who elect a leader who is asked to form a Government.
Unlike in Brown's case Cameron said he was not standing again and was elected on that basis. So all that has happened is what the Electorate were told. Just maybe a year or so earlier than Cameron expected.
In a fixed term Parliamentary system Mrs May cannot ask her Majesty to dissolve Parliament unless she loses a Vote of Confidence.
And we need more elections and referendums like a hole in the head ..."
Also we elect a party who already have a leader so in a round about way we do choose who is prime minister. Or did I miss the part when Cameron was selected after the general election?? |
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"As I said before funny how the tories across the country demanded a general election when brown was nominated to take over from Blair. But as soon as the tories take control they change the rules to make sure they keep there rule.
That's fine let's have an election result will be bigger tory majority and as earliest they could realistically hold it would be autumn tory government till 2021
Oh and however certain the result the markets would fall again and sterling would fall again
Do you really want that
To quote many a brexiter "the markets will settle down again" so why not? At least then we'd have a choice much like the tories moaned about with brown. But as always one rule for one one rule for another.
We do not elect Prime Ministers we elect MPs who elect a leader who is asked to form a Government.
Unlike in Brown's case Cameron said he was not standing again and was elected on that basis. So all that has happened is what the Electorate were told. Just maybe a year or so earlier than Cameron expected.
In a fixed term Parliamentary system Mrs May cannot ask her Majesty to dissolve Parliament unless she loses a Vote of Confidence.
And we need more elections and referendums like a hole in the head ...
Also we elect a party who already have a leader so in a round about way we do choose who is prime minister. Or did I miss the part when Cameron was selected after the general election??"
Not at all you are very astute. But the main points are that a) as a nation we do not vote for Prime Ministers. They are appointed by Her Majesty when they can assure her they command the confidence (ie a majority) of the House. That Prime Minister may not even be the winning party and may not have been the leader at the time of the election.
And b) legislation has changed since the time Brown became PM. At THAT time PMs had the freedom (and advantage) of choosing when to go to the country. Brown had the opportunity and bottled it. But he had that choice. Theresa May does not have that choice. In giving up a sitting PM's advantage of choice we give them security of tenure for 5 years . Unless he / she loses a vote of confidence and thereby cannot assure Her Majesty of that confidence.
I hope I have clarified matters ... |
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"As I said before funny how the tories across the country demanded a general election when brown was nominated to take over from Blair. But as soon as the tories take control they change the rules to make sure they keep there rule.
That's fine let's have an election result will be bigger tory majority and as earliest they could realistically hold it would be autumn tory government till 2021
Oh and however certain the result the markets would fall again and sterling would fall again
Do you really want that
To quote many a brexiter "the markets will settle down again" so why not? At least then we'd have a choice much like the tories moaned about with brown. But as always one rule for one one rule for another.
We do not elect Prime Ministers we elect MPs who elect a leader who is asked to form a Government.
Unlike in Brown's case Cameron said he was not standing again and was elected on that basis. So all that has happened is what the Electorate were told. Just maybe a year or so earlier than Cameron expected.
In a fixed term Parliamentary system Mrs May cannot ask her Majesty to dissolve Parliament unless she loses a Vote of Confidence.
And we need more elections and referendums like a hole in the head ...
Also we elect a party who already have a leader so in a round about way we do choose who is prime minister. Or did I miss the part when Cameron was selected after the general election??
Not at all you are very astute. But the main points are that a) as a nation we do not vote for Prime Ministers. They are appointed by Her Majesty when they can assure her they command the confidence (ie a majority) of the House. That Prime Minister may not even be the winning party and may not have been the leader at the time of the election.
And b) legislation has changed since the time Brown became PM. At THAT time PMs had the freedom (and advantage) of choosing when to go to the country. Brown had the opportunity and bottled it. But he had that choice. Theresa May does not have that choice. In giving up a sitting PM's advantage of choice we give them security of tenure for 5 years . Unless he / she loses a vote of confidence and thereby cannot assure Her Majesty of that confidence.
I hope I have clarified matters ..."
Which in that case another leader from the ruling party is voted for by their own party and not the very people they will be governing. Who was it that changed this ruling then? |
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"As I said before funny how the tories across the country demanded a general election when brown was nominated to take over from Blair. But as soon as the tories take control they change the rules to make sure they keep there rule. "
Funny how the Labour supporters are demanding a general election now but but when Brown took over from Blair they didn't want to know.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As I said before funny how the tories across the country demanded a general election when brown was nominated to take over from Blair. But as soon as the tories take control they change the rules to make sure they keep there rule.
That's fine let's have an election result will be bigger tory majority and as earliest they could realistically hold it would be autumn tory government till 2021
Oh and however certain the result the markets would fall again and sterling would fall again
Do you really want that
To quote many a brexiter "the markets will settle down again" so why not? At least then we'd have a choice much like the tories moaned about with brown. But as always one rule for one one rule for another.
We do not elect Prime Ministers we elect MPs who elect a leader who is asked to form a Government.
Unlike in Brown's case Cameron said he was not standing again and was elected on that basis. So all that has happened is what the Electorate were told. Just maybe a year or so earlier than Cameron expected.
In a fixed term Parliamentary system Mrs May cannot ask her Majesty to dissolve Parliament unless she loses a Vote of Confidence.
And we need more elections and referendums like a hole in the head ...
Also we elect a party who already have a leader so in a round about way we do choose who is prime minister. Or did I miss the part when Cameron was selected after the general election??
Not at all you are very astute. But the main points are that a) as a nation we do not vote for Prime Ministers. They are appointed by Her Majesty when they can assure her they command the confidence (ie a majority) of the House. That Prime Minister may not even be the winning party and may not have been the leader at the time of the election.
And b) legislation has changed since the time Brown became PM. At THAT time PMs had the freedom (and advantage) of choosing when to go to the country. Brown had the opportunity and bottled it. But he had that choice. Theresa May does not have that choice. In giving up a sitting PM's advantage of choice we give them security of tenure for 5 years . Unless he / she loses a vote of confidence and thereby cannot assure Her Majesty of that confidence.
I hope I have clarified matters ...
Which in that case another leader from the ruling party is voted for by their own party and not the very people they will be governing. Who was it that changed this ruling then?"
It was a popular change supported by both Tories and Lib Dems since conservatives didn't have a majority when it went through. I don't remember much disagreement from labour.
Only about 60,000 people ever directly elect the prime minister anyway! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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" Which in that case another leader from the ruling party is voted for by their own party and not the very people they will be governing. Who was it that changed this ruling then? "
That would be Parliament then. It was legislation approved by Parliament. And again you keep repeating the error. we do not vote for a Prime Minister. We vote for an MP in a Constituency and the Leader of the party that commands a majority (or the Confidence) of the House is invited by Her Majesty to form a Government. Constitutionally the Queen can remove a Prime Minister and invite someone else as she did in Australia in 1975 when the Government there was gridlocked. |
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"I think we may have a strong PM who will give the country some well needed leadership! X"
Or just a typical tory with more cut backs. As the who wrote meet the new boss same as the old boss.
Certainly wouldn't get my vote. But I'll have to wait another 4 years for that. |
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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago
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"note! appointed..not voted for... 
The Premier is always appointed. We don't vote for a prime minister in that way"
its amazing anyone thinks what they say counts..cos it doesnt..its awesome how these people get away with it, but they do...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think we may have a strong PM who will give the country some well needed leadership! X
Or just a typical tory with more cut backs. As the who wrote meet the new boss same as the old boss.
Certainly wouldn't get my vote. But I'll have to wait another 4 years for that. "
Time will tell |
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