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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What do we think about Angela.
For me she is a non starter.I live in a red area but it appears to be turning purple. "
Who?
I know she was challenging Jeremy. But I really don't know who she is. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"What do we think about Angela.
For me she is a non starter.I live in a red area but it appears to be turning purple.
Who?
I know she was challenging Jeremy. But I really don't know who she is."
She used to be pensions minister under Brown. She's been an MP since 1992. Her sister had the equalities brief under Blair. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What do we think about Angela.
For me she is a non starter.I live in a red area but it appears to be turning purple.
Who?
I know she was challenging Jeremy. But I really don't know who she is.
She used to be pensions minister under Brown. She's been an MP since 1992. Her sister had the equalities brief under Blair."
I know that a lot of what we hear is up to what the media feed us. It is just that, although I am keen on political news, I can't recall hearing much from her in the past.
It might just be me. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"What do we think about Angela.
For me she is a non starter.I live in a red area but it appears to be turning purple.
Who?
I know she was challenging Jeremy. But I really don't know who she is.
She used to be pensions minister under Brown. She's been an MP since 1992. Her sister had the equalities brief under Blair.
I know that a lot of what we hear is up to what the media feed us. It is just that, although I am keen on political news, I can't recall hearing much from her in the past.
It might just be me."
Have a look at this. It's the link I could find that won't get deleted here.
www.mirror.co.uk › News › UK News › PMQs |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What do we think about Angela.
For me she is a non starter.I live in a red area but it appears to be turning purple. "
Labour is in urgent need of a strong leader which they do not have
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Miliband the wimp lost them the election and they have done nothing to fix this.
And look what they have done in Scotland they stick in Kezia Dugdale as a Leader, they would get more votes with Kermit the Frog
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Labour needs a strong leader and until they find one they will continue to lose votes
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They need a figure head like Vladimir Putin, not a bloody wimp like Miliband
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Labour Waken Up |
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"Labour do not have any charismatic figures in their ranks any more.
They are at great risk of being wiped out if another election is called any time soon."
They do - they've just been in hiding since Corbyn was elected |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
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"Is there anyone within Labour that is suitable to lead?
Dan Jarvis "
The one single thing he has going for him is that he was a soldier.
For many Labour Party supporters, that is enough to vote against him. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is there anyone within Labour that is suitable to lead?
Dan Jarvis
The one single thing he has going for him is that he was a soldier.
For many Labour Party supporters, that is enough to vote against him. "
Lol, well let's see what happens. Either labour is going to split into two parties, the unelectables are leaving or he's their best prospect. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is there anyone within Labour that is suitable to lead?
Dan Jarvis
The one single thing he has going for him is that he was a soldier.
For many Labour Party supporters, that is enough to vote against him. "
but you are confusing Labour Party supporters with Labour supporters and the former are an irrelevance |
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"What do we think about Angela.
For me she is a non starter.I live in a red area but it appears to be turning purple. "
She is a cunt!
She is an unprincipled cunt!
She is a cowardly cunt!
She has done so much damage to the labour party because she saw a chance of advancement by deposing her democratically elected leader and as soon as she found her own career may be jeopardised by her actions she has withdrawn letting others deal with the damage she has done!
She is an arsehole and a cunt who should be removed! |
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"This is not acceptable behaviour dude. opinion is fine, abusive language isn't. "
Not acceptable behaviour...
Is that hers (for what she has done)? Or mine (for calling her a cowardly, unprincipled cunt who needs deselecting)?
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"This is not acceptable behaviour dude. opinion is fine, abusive language isn't.
Not acceptable behaviour...
Is that hers (for what she has done)? Or mine (for calling her a cowardly, unprincipled cunt who needs deselecting)?
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yours in this case. misogyny is not something you should be proud of. |
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"yours in this case. misogyny is not something you should be proud of. "
So just to get this right because I am male I cant call a woman a 'cunt' no matter how they behave? And if I do call a 'cunt' a 'cunt' it makes me a woman hater!
You should hang your head in shame! How dare you label me as a woman hater because you have no answer that justifies her actions!
I think you need to take your politically correct head out of your arse and give some unbiased thought to what she and others of the PLP have done and how they have reacted as soon as they have seen the reaction of their constituency parties. |
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"yours in this case. misogyny is not something you should be proud of.
So just to get this right because I am male I cant call a woman a 'cunt' no matter how they behave? And if I do call a 'cunt' a 'cunt' it makes me a woman hater!
You should hang your head in shame! How dare you label me as a woman hater because you have no answer that justifies her actions!
I think you need to take your politically correct head out of your arse and give some unbiased thought to what she and others of the PLP have done and how they have reacted as soon as they have seen the reaction of their constituency parties. "
again you can have an opinion, but you don't need to be rude and abusive. your opinion is yours, it just isn't supported by everybody else. maybe if you had a reasoned argument rather than bile you might be able to encourage people towards your _iews as opposed to being turned off. |
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"again you can have an opinion, but you don't need to be rude and abusive. your opinion is yours, it just isn't supported by everybody else. maybe if you had a reasoned argument rather than bile you might be able to encourage people towards your _iews as opposed to being turned off. "
I thought I made clear in my first post why I feel the way I do.
To be clear, I first made my feelings clear, then I justified those feelings.
You then called me a misogynist without justifying your opinion.
I then pointed out what you did and how despicable it was.
Your reply to that is to say I am entitled to my opinion. But it is not supported by anyone, and in doing so dismiss the Wallasey local Labour Party who seem to share my _iew and are looking to deselect her because of her conduct.
As I said, maybe it is you who need to reconsider your reaction to my comments. Rather than attacking me you should consider why the person elected to represent her constituents believes it is her place to disregard their choice and remove the person they elected to lead their party!
Maybe you also need to give a little thought to how you would describe a male who led an attempted political coup and as soon as their position was threatened withdrew. I'd call them a cowardly prick, does that make me a man hater too? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
Willwill69u, I also think your comments are out of line. I know politics stirs a lot of strong emotions, and its easy to get carried away with our rhetoric, but I think in light of what has happened recently we should all try to tone it down a little bit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm very much in the "anyone but Corbyn" camp.
If Boris thinks he cant win a Tory leadership election, maybe he could try his hand and the Labour leadership! "
Ha ha I spat my drink out |
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Basically someone who says we're all doomed anyway, so let's just give up. Would give heavy sighs during any public appearance.
Conclusion: She wouldn't actually do anything, and everyone would feel their lifeforce being drained just by being near her. Knowing that she was Labour leader would make people just lie down in the street like dying moths, waiting for death to take them. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"I'm very much in the "anyone but Corbyn" camp.
If Boris thinks he cant win a Tory leadership election, maybe he could try his hand and the Labour leadership!
Ha ha I spat my drink out "
The worrying thing is I think he would stand a decent chance of wining it! |
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"Willwill69u, I also think your comments are out of line. I know politics stirs a lot of strong emotions, and its easy to get carried away with our rhetoric, but I think in light of what has happened recently we should all try to tone it down a little bit. "
Out of line?
Tone it down a little?
Get carried away with rhetoric in the light of what has happened recently?
Don't you think that that maybe what has happened recently has been caused by the attitude expressed by the politically correct who refuse to acknowledge any opinion that do not agree with the _iews of the 'politically enlightened'?
Again, rather than climbing on the politically correct bandwagon you might be better advised to critically examine what I have said and differentiate between 'hate' and justified anger. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Willwill69u, I also think your comments are out of line. I know politics stirs a lot of strong emotions, and its easy to get carried away with our rhetoric, but I think in light of what has happened recently we should all try to tone it down a little bit.
Out of line?
Tone it down a little?
Get carried away with rhetoric in the light of what has happened recently?
Don't you think that that maybe what has happened recently has been caused by the attitude expressed by the politically correct who refuse to acknowledge any opinion that do not agree with the _iews of the 'politically enlightened'?
Again, rather than climbing on the politically correct bandwagon you might be better advised to critically examine what I have said and differentiate between 'hate' and justified anger."
Just retract the word 'cunt' and you'll be ok. You know that's the naughty word. |
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"Is there anyone within Labour that is suitable to lead?
Dan Jarvis
Jarvis is aligned with the Blairites
The electable part of the party then. " I would hardly call the blairites electable, they are more right wing than the tories. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is there anyone within Labour that is suitable to lead?
Dan Jarvis
Jarvis is aligned with the Blairites
The electable part of the party then. I would hardly call the blairites electable, they are more right wing than the tories. "
Yeah Blair only got elected 3 times |
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"Just retract the word 'cunt' and you'll be ok. You know that's the naughty word. "
LoL! I fully understand what you are saying.
Don't call the cunt a nasty word, calling her cuntish actions what they are is not nice and we are all nice in this post modern(ish) PC world...
After all it does not matter what anyone does so long as we use nice language (unless we all do not approve of the political stance and then say what you like).
Have I got the politically correct message right?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is there anyone within Labour that is suitable to lead?
Dan Jarvis
The one single thing he has going for him is that he was a soldier.
For many Labour Party supporters, that is enough to vote against him. "
Can I ask and get genuine answers of why his past career of being a soldier will act against him? |
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"Can I ask and get genuine answers of why his past career of being a soldier will act against him?"
Many Labour activists equate service in any armed force with the extremist, nationalist politics of military governments throughout the world. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Can I ask and get genuine answers of why his past career of being a soldier will act against him?
Many Labour activists equate service in any armed force with the extremist, nationalist politics of military governments throughout the world."
ffs that is so wrong |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Can I ask and get genuine answers of why his past career of being a soldier will act against him?
Many Labour activists equate service in any armed force with the extremist, nationalist politics of military governments throughout the world."
I knew they were thick but didn't realise they were that thick |
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"Can I ask and get genuine answers of why his past career of being a soldier will act against him?
Many Labour activists equate service in any armed force with the extremist, nationalist politics of military governments throughout the world.
I knew they were thick but didn't realise they were that thick"
They are not thick! They may be misinformed and not open to being educated about our armed forces. But they are not thick! And if you look at the experience of the world as a whole every civilian has good reason to fear the military and those with military backgrounds who get to wield power. |
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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago
Bristol |
"I'm hoping Lisa Nanday will run"
I'd hate to see a promising political career ruined by ignominious defeat.
I'm hoping she'll be forced to leave the party. She'll find a more welcome home amongst the Lib Dems or Tories I think, rather than one in which principles and democracy are considered important. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"has Labour just become the nasty party?
why is it always the left wing that is 'angry' and can therfore become vile? many of the rest of us are angry and don't have to be."
I'm interested in the answer to this as well. You see these people like Owen Jones who were just born angry at the world!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"has Labour just become the nasty party?
why is it always the left wing that is 'angry' and can therfore become vile? many of the rest of us are angry and don't have to be.
I'm interested in the answer to this as well. You see these people like Owen Jones who were just born angry at the world!!! "
It's the right wing parties that are nasty whilst keeping their composure that scare me. It's natural to them. Also, for the record, I can't stand Owen Jones, but at least he shows some bite. I find him OTT some times but I'd rather some anger and passion than a slimy, calm and collected shafting |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"has Labour just become the nasty party?
why is it always the left wing that is 'angry' and can therfore become vile? many of the rest of us are angry and don't have to be.
I'm interested in the answer to this as well. You see these people like Owen Jones who were just born angry at the world!!!
It's the right wing parties that are nasty whilst keeping their composure that scare me. It's natural to them. Also, for the record, I can't stand Owen Jones, but at least he shows some bite. I find him OTT some times but I'd rather some anger and passion than a slimy, calm and collected shafting "
He's a bit of a drama queen, when he talks about TTIP it's like Hitler is trying to pass the enabling act again |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"has Labour just become the nasty party?
why is it always the left wing that is 'angry' and can therfore become vile? many of the rest of us are angry and don't have to be.
I'm interested in the answer to this as well. You see these people like Owen Jones who were just born angry at the world!!!
It's the right wing parties that are nasty whilst keeping their composure that scare me. It's natural to them. Also, for the record, I can't stand Owen Jones, but at least he shows some bite. I find him OTT some times but I'd rather some anger and passion than a slimy, calm and collected shafting
He's a bit of a drama queen, when he talks about TTIP it's like Hitler is trying to pass the enabling act again"
Same with most public figures, it's usually the way they say it rather than what they say that dictates their popularity |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"What do we think about Angela.
For me she is a non starter.I live in a red area but it appears to be turning purple.
She is a cunt!
She is an unprincipled cunt!
She is a cowardly cunt!
She has done so much damage to the labour party because she saw a chance of advancement by deposing her democratically elected leader and as soon as she found her own career may be jeopardised by her actions she has withdrawn letting others deal with the damage she has done!
She is an arsehole and a cunt who should be removed!"
No need for that level of aggressive abuse. You can make your point well enough without that kind of language. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Is there anyone within Labour that is suitable to lead?
Dan Jarvis
Jarvis is aligned with the Blairites
The electable part of the party then. I would hardly call the blairites electable, they are more right wing than the tories.
Yeah Blair only got elected 3 times "
So did maggi T and who is worse ? |
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