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Eu referendum going forward

By *ouple1000 OP Couple over a year ago

manchester

After all the debates on TV building up to the vote, and the in and out camps claiming the other sides facts and stats where lies. Surely stats and facts are just that and there should be no devation from them. So my question is why are these politions not held accountable legally if found out to be lying to the public in the course of their duties?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"After all the debates on TV building up to the vote, and the in and out camps claiming the other sides facts and stats where lies. Surely stats and facts are just that and there should be no devation from them. So my question is why are these politions not held accountable legally if found out to be lying to the public in the course of their duties? "

Why don't you start it off by taking out a court action

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By *ouple1000 OP Couple over a year ago

manchester

Start what off smart asse? only asked WHY these people are not liable for the lies and counter lies they spoute can you answer?

Why don't you start it off by taking out a court action"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

as said, someone will have to start off a court action to see if this is feasible and make a president, as you are the one concerned, again I suggest you start this!

I have no cause of concern.

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By *ouple1000 OP Couple over a year ago

manchester

"as said, someone will have to start off a court action to see if this is feasible and make a president, as you are the one concerned, again I suggest you start this!

I have no cause of concern. "

OK thanks for the input

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Because they could say they weren't lying, they were making assumptions on future prospects for the country as they predicted it.

Anything said inside the house of commons comes under parliamentary privilege, not sure about outside.

But if you took politicians to court over everything that said that wasn't true or didn't become true the court's wouldn't have time for anything else.

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By *ouple1000 OP Couple over a year ago

manchester

"Because they could say they weren't lying, they were making assumptions on future prospects for the country as they predicted it.

Anything said inside the house of commons comes under parliamentary privilege, not sure about outside.

But if you took politicians to court over everything that said that wasn't true or didn't become true the court's wouldn't have time for anything else."

Hi thanks for the reply I understand some claims are just predictions. But some of the info debated surely where facts that shouldn't change. What I am getting at and maybe not articulated to well is that both camps told lies or blurred the truth. Should these people not be held accountable if proved to be lying in the future ?.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

they were just being creative with the truth and obviously expected the great british public to swallow it hook line and sinker ! they did ! now were in a mess enuf said

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By *ouple1000 OP Couple over a year ago

manchester

"they were just being creative with the truth and obviously expected the great british public to swallow it hook line and sinker ! they did ! now were in a mess enuf said

So should / could they who where being creative ( lying ) be held legally responsible for their creativity?

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By *sussexyMan over a year ago

Ringmer

You could sign this petition - I have

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/128217

I won't sign the one trying overturn the will of the people (even though I suspect many were duped). But this one (which is quite badly worded tbh) attempts to improve political standards going forwards.

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By *carlet_heavenWoman over a year ago

somewhere in the sticks

One reason…because WE allow it!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe stupid questions

But as yet the changes are not actually an act of parliament yet are they?

Until document 50 is signed? What if the pm decides that the vote is not in the best interest of the country and refuses?

I know that a few weeks ago on radio four there was a chap that said a few of the Lords would appeal directly to high Court if the vote to leave went through.

Could they not use incompetence and lack of leadership by the elected pm as a justification for an appeal?

Also the Queen has been very quiet on the whole thing.

Does she have the ultimate power to overturn anything that may threaten the safety,health and wealth of the nation?

Lastly as far as I am aware ukip do not run the country, conservatives are the party chosen to lead the country and are running it.

Isn't it about time they stated to do this rather than all scurrying to find hiding place's.

We need a strong leader.

As much as I hated her Mrs thatcher would have lead, not gone off like a spoilt child.

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By *carlet_heavenWoman over a year ago

somewhere in the sticks

When will people realise that in a democracy the whole idea is for the people to influence the Government NOT for the Government to have control over the people…!?!

Once elected, the law-makers are able to use their own personal (& party) discretion & influence to make decisions that affect our lives..because we have given them the legal authority to do that. We also afford them certain privileges which stop them being subject to legal action in certain circumstances.

Just out of interest…what law have these politicians broken anyway?

If there are people that don't like what's happening-STOP electing these people & then it will stop! Take a stand & stand for office if you think you can do a better job.

The beauty of our situation is…its all within our power…but people either don't realise or they do nothing about it

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By *ouple1000 OP Couple over a year ago

manchester

"Maybe stupid questions

But as yet the changes are not actually an act of parliament yet are they?

Until document 50 is signed? What if the pm decides that the vote is not in the best interest of the country and refuses?

I know that a few weeks ago on radio four there was a chap that said a few of the Lords would appeal directly to high Court if the vote to leave went through.

Could they not use incompetence and lack of leadership by the elected pm as a justification for an appeal?

Also the Queen has been very quiet on the whole thing.

Does she have the ultimate power to overturn anything that may threaten the safety,health and wealth of the nation?

Lastly as far as I am aware ukip do not run the country, conservatives are the party chosen to lead the country and are running it.

Isn't it about time they stated to do this rather than all scurrying to find hiding place's.

We need a strong leader.

As much as I hated her Mrs thatcher would have lead, not gone off like a spoilt child. "

Think your answering a different topic nothing to do with the question

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By *ouple1000 OP Couple over a year ago

manchester

"When will people realise that in a democracy the whole idea is for the people to influence the Government NOT for the Government to have control over the people…!?!

Just out of interest…what law have these politicians broken anyway?

If there are people that don't like what's happening-STOP electing these people & then it will stop! Take a stand & stand for office if you think you can do a better job.

The beauty of our situation is…its all within our power…but people either don't realise or they do nothing about it

Hi there that's what I am asking never once have I claimed anyone broke the law, I am saying IF it was shown in the future that blatant lies have been told by either side are they / should they be legally accountable. The rest of your statement I agree with 100%.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe stupid questions

But as yet the changes are not actually an act of parliament yet are they?

Until document 50 is signed? What if the pm decides that the vote is not in the best interest of the country and refuses?

I know that a few weeks ago on radio four there was a chap that said a few of the Lords would appeal directly to high Court if the vote to leave went through.

Could they not use incompetence and lack of leadership by the elected pm as a justification for an appeal?

Also the Queen has been very quiet on the whole thing.

Does she have the ultimate power to overturn anything that may threaten the safety,health and wealth of the nation?

Lastly as far as I am aware ukip do not run the country, conservatives are the party chosen to lead the country and are running it.

Isn't it about time they stated to do this rather than all scurrying to find hiding place's.

We need a strong leader.

As much as I hated her Mrs thatcher would have lead, not gone off like a spoilt child.

Think your answering a different topic nothing to do with the question

The changes are not an act of parliament yet, in order for anything to happen the government have to debate and vote on it yes. It then goes to the Lord's who cannot veto it but can ask for changes etc, sent back to the commons and so on.

Only once that has been done can article 50 be invoked, at this point it becomes legally binding on the UK leaving the EU.

Technically the queen can veto any legislation she likes but this would cause a constitutional crisis and go back to the days of long ago and be no good to the country.

Although the government do not have to listen to the referendum result it is unlikely they won't. It would guarantee political problems, the party would be unelectable for years to come and no politician wants to lose their job.

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