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Depends on your idea of "woke" really.
Acknowledging and discussing the issues around discrimination and prejudice against gender, race, religion, disabilities and everything else. No, not bad at all.
Hypocritical people using it as an excuse to play victim when they are a bit of a prat, and attack other groups, yes. Those are the "woke" people that I tend to avoid, or call out. |
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"Depends on your idea of "woke" really.
Acknowledging and discussing the issues around discrimination and prejudice against gender, race, religion, disabilities and everything else. No, not bad at all.
Hypocritical people using it as an excuse to play victim when they are a bit of a prat, and attack other groups, yes. Those are the "woke" people that I tend to avoid, or call out."
The difference in language you used between the two paragraphs highlights the issue though, right? Unfortunately, those against certain "woke" ideas use loaded language as a way to cause division rather than actually having a calm and reasonable discussion which is why emotions trump any sort of rationality when talking about the subject. |
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Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅 |
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By *ea monkey OP Man 2 weeks ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅"
Scottish? |
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"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish? "
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅 |
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By *ea monkey OP Man 2 weeks ago
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"I suspect that most people who claim to be anti-woke don't actually know what woke means, or perhaps more likely have decided it means whatever they want it to mean. "
I often see right wing folks talking about the ‘woke agenda’, I’m just wondering what it is and why it’s bad |
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By *ant3Man 2 weeks ago
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"Depends on your idea of "woke" really.
Acknowledging and discussing the issues around discrimination and prejudice against gender, race, religion, disabilities and everything else. No, not bad at all.
Hypocritical people using it as an excuse to play victim when they are a bit of a prat, and attack other groups, yes. Those are the "woke" people that I tend to avoid, or call out.
The difference in language you used between the two paragraphs highlights the issue though, right? Unfortunately, those against certain "woke" ideas use loaded language as a way to cause division rather than actually having a calm and reasonable discussion which is why emotions trump any sort of rationality when talking about the subject."
You can't have a calm and reasonable discussion with them though. I've been part of or seen debates devolve into personal attacks from the side trying to be the social justice advocates the moment they realise they can't convince you their side is right. It usually only takes a couple exchanges before they resort to ad hominem. You could also advocate for social justice but if your view points differ to theirs or you try to call them out on any misguided perceptions or unproductive behaviour, they will consider you to be an enemy too. |
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By *ea monkey OP Man 2 weeks ago
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"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish?
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅"
Maybe the Scots shouldn’t have hating the English as their national identity then? 😇😈 |
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"Depends on your idea of "woke" really.
Acknowledging and discussing the issues around discrimination and prejudice against gender, race, religion, disabilities and everything else. No, not bad at all.
Hypocritical people using it as an excuse to play victim when they are a bit of a prat, and attack other groups, yes. Those are the "woke" people that I tend to avoid, or call out.
The difference in language you used between the two paragraphs highlights the issue though, right? Unfortunately, those against certain "woke" ideas use loaded language as a way to cause division rather than actually having a calm and reasonable discussion which is why emotions trump any sort of rationality when talking about the subject."
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"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish?
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅
Maybe the Scots shouldn’t have hating the English as their national identity then? 😇😈"
I guess it’s less about being a victim. And more because the English are cunts xx
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By *ea monkey OP Man 2 weeks ago
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"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish?
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅
Maybe the Scots shouldn’t have hating the English as their national identity then? 😇😈
I guess it’s less about being a victim. And more because the English are cunts xx
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You’ve got me there |
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"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish?
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅
Maybe the Scots shouldn’t have hating the English as their national identity then? 😇😈
I guess it’s less about being a victim. And more because the English are cunts xx
You’ve got me there "
Please don’t tell all my English hating friends that the English accent does it for me🙊x |
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By *ea monkey OP Man 2 weeks ago
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"Right wing folks and believers, please explain
Do they know they're actually woke? It's like being stupid, only other people notice it.
Mr F. "
I’ll take that as you not actually having an answer |
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By *ea monkey OP Man 2 weeks ago
Manchester (he/him) |
"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish?
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅
Maybe the Scots shouldn’t have hating the English as their national identity then? 😇😈
I guess it’s less about being a victim. And more because the English are cunts xx
You’ve got me there
Please don’t tell all my English hating friends that the English accent does it for me🙊x"
I’ll be sure to whisper gently |
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Oh OP, did you wake up and choose violence today?!
You know as well as I do that people have entrenched positions on this, and that a calm and reasoned discussion is unlikely. Your starting position is “woke ain’t bad, prove me wrong”. Good luck 
Mrs TMN x |
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Claiming to be the inclusive and tolerant side whist being the exact opposite
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"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish?
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅
Maybe the Scots shouldn’t have hating the English as their national identity then? 😇😈
I guess it’s less about being a victim. And more because the English are cunts xx
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That is bullshit. The only people I've ever not like are other English.
Oh wait... 🤔😂 |
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"Claiming to be the inclusive and tolerant side whist being the exact opposite
Blue hair
Public meltdowns
Pronouns in bio
Trump derangement syndrome
Still wear facemasks
Think the Huffington Post, Guardian and Janes O Brien are reliable sources of news
Probably Vegan
Usually on some type of pills just to deal with 'life' 🥪"
I’d decided to avoid this thread and just watch but this so deserves a laughy face 🤣🤣🤣
I’ll be off again now 👋 |
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"Depends on your idea of "woke" really.
Acknowledging and discussing the issues around discrimination and prejudice against gender, race, religion, disabilities and everything else. No, not bad at all.
Hypocritical people using it as an excuse to play victim when they are a bit of a prat, and attack other groups, yes. Those are the "woke" people that I tend to avoid, or call out.
The difference in language you used between the two paragraphs highlights the issue though, right? Unfortunately, those against certain "woke" ideas use loaded language as a way to cause division rather than actually having a calm and reasonable discussion which is why emotions trump any sort of rationality when talking about the subject."
This is why I like these threads and don't shy away from posting in them |
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"Claiming to be the inclusive and tolerant side whist being the exact opposite
Blue hair
Public meltdowns
Pronouns in bio
Trump derangement syndrome
Still wear facemasks
Think the Huffington Post, Guardian and Janes O Brien are reliable sources of news
Probably Vegan
Usually on some type of pills just to deal with 'life' 🥪
I’d decided to avoid this thread and just watch but this so deserves a laughy face 🤣🤣🤣
I’ll be off again now 👋"
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"Claiming to be the inclusive and tolerant side whist being the exact opposite
Blue hair
Public meltdowns
Pronouns in bio
Trump derangement syndrome
Still wear facemasks
Think the Huffington Post, Guardian and Janes O Brien are reliable sources of news
Probably Vegan
Usually on some type of pills just to deal with 'life' 🥪"
But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️ |
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"Claiming to be the inclusive and tolerant side whist being the exact opposite
Blue hair
Public meltdowns
Pronouns in bio
Trump derangement syndrome
Still wear facemasks
Think the Huffington Post, Guardian and Janes O Brien are reliable sources of news
Probably Vegan
Usually on some type of pills just to deal with 'life' 🥪
But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️"
Oh, Joe |
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"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish?
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅
Maybe the Scots shouldn’t have hating the English as their national identity then? 😇😈
I guess it’s less about being a victim. And more because the English are cunts xx
You’ve got me there
Please don’t tell all my English hating friends that the English accent does it for me🙊x"
To late screen shot and sent to all 😂 |
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"But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️
Oh, Joe "
Any reason for the laughter or... |
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"Claiming to be the inclusive and tolerant side whist being the exact opposite
Blue hair
Public meltdowns
Pronouns in bio
Trump derangement syndrome
Still wear facemasks
Think the Huffington Post, Guardian and Janes O Brien are reliable sources of news
Probably Vegan
Usually on some type of pills just to deal with 'life' 🥪
But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️"
Is it not majorly ‘woke’ people who get offended on behalf of others?
Who argue about things the majority of others would let slip?
Who take criticism and imply you’re being degrading when it’s evident no intent was met? |
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"Claiming to be the inclusive and tolerant side whist being the exact opposite
Blue hair
Public meltdowns
Pronouns in bio
Trump derangement syndrome
Still wear facemasks
Think the Huffington Post, Guardian and Janes O Brien are reliable sources of news
Probably Vegan
Usually on some type of pills just to deal with 'life' 🥪
But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️"
Yeah but the thread is about 'woke'
and wanting equality of opportunity isn't exclusively a woke ideology as much as they want to claim it is. 🥪 |
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"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish?
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅
Maybe the Scots shouldn’t have hating the English as their national identity then? 😇😈
I guess it’s less about being a victim. And more because the English are cunts xx
You’ve got me there
Please don’t tell all my English hating friends that the English accent does it for me🙊x
To late screen shot and sent to all 😂"
No!!! It wasn’t me I was hacked by a horrible English person!!
If it helps the Edinburgh/ Glasgow accent does it more😇😇 |
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By *bi HaiveMan 2 weeks ago
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Something something snowflakes....something something immigrants.....something something but liebor....something something benefits....something something.
*woke here but no blue hair, about to eat roast pork, not currently on any pills and giving zero shits. 🤷♂️ |
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"Is it not majorly ‘woke’ people who get offended on behalf of others?
Who argue about things the majority of others would let slip?
Who take criticism and imply you’re being degrading when it’s evident no intent was met?"
I think you're talking if the small minority who do that, similar to how a small minority think they should be allowed to say and do what they want without being called out on it. In reality, real people fall somewhere in the middle. |
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"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish?
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅
Maybe the Scots shouldn’t have hating the English as their national identity then? 😇😈
I guess it’s less about being a victim. And more because the English are cunts xx
You’ve got me there
Please don’t tell all my English hating friends that the English accent does it for me🙊x
To late screen shot and sent to all 😂
No!!! It wasn’t me I was hacked by a horrible English person!!
If it helps the Edinburgh/ Glasgow accent does it more😇😇"
Saved for now just tho 😂 |
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"But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️
Yeah but the thread is about 'woke'
and wanting equality of opportunity isn't exclusively a woke ideology as much as they want to claim it is. 🥪"
It kind of is when the opposite side of the spectrum is against the idea of certain people having the opportunities to be successful and chalk it down to it being a "participation trophy". |
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"Depends on your idea of "woke" really.
Acknowledging and discussing the issues around discrimination and prejudice against gender, race, religion, disabilities and everything else. No, not bad at all.
Hypocritical people using it as an excuse to play victim when they are a bit of a prat, and attack other groups, yes. Those are the "woke" people that I tend to avoid, or call out.
The difference in language you used between the two paragraphs highlights the issue though, right? Unfortunately, those against certain "woke" ideas use loaded language as a way to cause division rather than actually having a calm and reasonable discussion which is why emotions trump any sort of rationality when talking about the subject."
I agree that defining Woke, is a huge problem. The original meaning has started to change to be used as derogatory term.
Now for my thoughts...
I'm open to treating everyone with equity.
I will also try my utmost to respect others beliefs.
I have experienced that if I hold a right wing point of view, let's use gender identity as an example. I have been told I'm wrong and that I need to change.
I then question who has priority in the "my opinion is correct"game?
I'll never say someone's opinion is wrong, I might disagree, but they are entitled to form their own thoughts.
However, when facts and science are disregarded then I will say that someone is wrong as and try and offer the facts.
So I'm short I dislike that the conversations are so emotive around being woke. If we're all expected to conform and accept the woke ideology then why can't they accept others might wish to disagree with them without being ridiculed? |
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By *ea monkey OP Man 2 weeks ago
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"Claiming to be the inclusive and tolerant side whist being the exact opposite
Blue hair
Public meltdowns
Pronouns in bio
Trump derangement syndrome
Still wear facemasks
Think the Huffington Post, Guardian and Janes O Brien are reliable sources of news
Probably Vegan
Usually on some type of pills just to deal with 'life' 🥪"
That’s bait. Good luck with that and enjoy your sammich |
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"Is it not majorly ‘woke’ people who get offended on behalf of others?
Who argue about things the majority of others would let slip?
Who take criticism and imply you’re being degrading when it’s evident no intent was met?
I think you're talking if the small minority who do that, similar to how a small minority think they should be allowed to say and do what they want without being called out on it. In reality, real people fall somewhere in the middle."
Sorry but I will continue to call out anyone who uses this rationale as an excuse to bully anyone. |
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"This probably needs to be moved to the politics forum.
At the weekend a Photo Challenge thread was moved to Games but threads about 'right wingers' obviously aren't political.🤦♂️"
Don't get me started |
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"I believe most people believe being "woke" is being offended by everything, offended on behalf of everyone. At least that is what people I've interacted with believe it to mean. "
Having said that, I don't think anyone really can define woke. Is it a new word for Liberal Progressive? Being Politically Correct? I don't know. |
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"But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️
Yeah but the thread is about 'woke'
and wanting equality of opportunity isn't exclusively a woke ideology as much as they want to claim it is. 🥪
It kind of is when the opposite side of the spectrum is against the idea of certain people having the opportunities to be successful and chalk it down to it being a "participation trophy"."
Would that opposite side be the side thats had two female prime ministers and a Hindu prime minister? 🥪 |
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"It's the self-righteousness that grates with the inference that nobody else cares about x, y, z."
One thing I noticed during the online anger towards what happened to George Floyd was how many insincere people were joining in. Literally the BLM logos and profile pictures lasted for a few months and then so many went back to pretending like nothing happened. And they've not mentioned it since. It came across as insincere. |
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"Claiming to be the inclusive and tolerant side whist being the exact opposite
Blue hair
Public meltdowns
Pronouns in bio
Trump derangement syndrome
Still wear facemasks
Think the Huffington Post, Guardian and Janes O Brien are reliable sources of news
Probably Vegan
Usually on some type of pills just to deal with 'life' 🥪
That’s bait. Good luck with that and enjoy your sammich"
The entire thread topic was bait...🥪 |
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"I believe most people believe being "woke" is being offended by everything, offended on behalf of everyone. At least that is what people I've interacted with believe it to mean. "
Have you ever looked at the comments section in the Mail, Express, Telegraph etc? They are the most easily offended people I have ever come across. And yet they have the barefaced cheek to call everyone else woke snowflakes! |
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By *ea monkey OP Man 2 weeks ago
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"I believe most people believe being "woke" is being offended by everything, offended on behalf of everyone. At least that is what people I've interacted with believe it to mean.
Having said that, I don't think anyone really can define woke. Is it a new word for Liberal Progressive? Being Politically Correct? I don't know. "
This is my point.
What does it mean to people? I know what left leaning people think it means but I’m interested to hear what folks who think it’s bad think it means.
Not the attitude but the actual ‘agenda’. I’m waiting to be enlightened |
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By *ea monkey OP Man 2 weeks ago
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That’s bait. Good luck with that and enjoy your sammich
The whole thread has gone exactly how you thought it would, has it not?"
Not at all. I’m hoping to hear what people think it means.
What do right wing people think that woke means and why it’s bad?
So far all I’ve seen is people listing behaviours that can be attributed to both extremes |
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There is a saying that principles aren’t principles until they cost you something. And this is the problem with woke. Too much trying on beliefs and ideas like clothes, to be discarded when they become inconvenient or expensive.
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"But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️
Yeah but the thread is about 'woke'
and wanting equality of opportunity isn't exclusively a woke ideology as much as they want to claim it is. 🥪
It kind of is when the opposite side of the spectrum is against the idea of certain people having the opportunities to be successful and chalk it down to it being a "participation trophy".
Would that opposite side be the side thats had two female prime ministers and a Hindu prime minister? 🥪"
Three females, one Hindu, one Jewish... |
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"But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️
Yeah but the thread is about 'woke'
and wanting equality of opportunity isn't exclusively a woke ideology as much as they want to claim it is. 🥪
It kind of is when the opposite side of the spectrum is against the idea of certain people having the opportunities to be successful and chalk it down to it being a "participation trophy".
Would that opposite side be the side thats had two female prime ministers and a Hindu prime minister? 🥪
Three females, one Hindu, one Jewish..."
Wasn’t one of the females a lettuce |
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"But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️
Yeah but the thread is about 'woke'
and wanting equality of opportunity isn't exclusively a woke ideology as much as they want to claim it is. 🥪
It kind of is when the opposite side of the spectrum is against the idea of certain people having the opportunities to be successful and chalk it down to it being a "participation trophy".
Would that opposite side be the side thats had two female prime ministers and a Hindu prime minister? 🥪
Three females, one Hindu, one Jewish..."
And now an African heritage leader while Labour is led by yet another white male solicitor. Damn those right wingers and their diversity! 🤣 |
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"But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️
Yeah but the thread is about 'woke'
and wanting equality of opportunity isn't exclusively a woke ideology as much as they want to claim it is. 🥪
It kind of is when the opposite side of the spectrum is against the idea of certain people having the opportunities to be successful and chalk it down to it being a "participation trophy".
Would that opposite side be the side thats had two female prime ministers and a Hindu prime minister? 🥪
Three females, one Hindu, one Jewish...
Wasn’t one of the females a lettuce "
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That’s bait. Good luck with that and enjoy your sammich
The whole thread has gone exactly how you thought it would, has it not?
Not at all. I’m hoping to hear what people think it means.
What do right wing people think that woke means and why it’s bad?
So far all I’ve seen is people listing behaviours that can be attributed to both extremes "
I don't think there's that many Right Wing orientated on here, at least that's my impression on the politics section. |
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I don’t think being woke is bad I think extreme left and right is bad ideally we should all be able to live our lives exactly how we want to live it without being told from others that we should change. But also we need to accept that not everyone will agree to everything we do so if agree to disagree was more common then we’d probably all get along a lot better (mr) |
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By *ea monkey OP Man 2 weeks ago
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"Is it not majorly ‘woke’ people who get offended on behalf of others?
Who argue about things the majority of others would let slip?
Who take criticism and imply you’re being degrading when it’s evident no intent was met?
I think you're talking if the small minority who do that, similar to how a small minority think they should be allowed to say and do what they want without being called out on it. In reality, real people fall somewhere in the middle.
Sorry but I will continue to call out anyone who uses this rationale as an excuse to bully anyone. "
Do you think that calling a woman that has transitioned ‘a man in a dress’ is bullying someone? That gay characters on TV is ‘shoving it down our throats’ or that gay sex between men is ‘disgusting and abhorrent’ is bullying?
These are common and current attitudes that people on this thread and others have used |
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"But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️
Yeah but the thread is about 'woke'
and wanting equality of opportunity isn't exclusively a woke ideology as much as they want to claim it is. 🥪
It kind of is when the opposite side of the spectrum is against the idea of certain people having the opportunities to be successful and chalk it down to it being a "participation trophy".
Would that opposite side be the side thats had two female prime ministers and a Hindu prime minister? 🥪
Three females, one Hindu, one Jewish...
Wasn’t one of the females a lettuce "
Do we even count Liz Truss? ...🤷🏻♂️ 🥪 |
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"But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️
Yeah but the thread is about 'woke'
and wanting equality of opportunity isn't exclusively a woke ideology as much as they want to claim it is. 🥪
It kind of is when the opposite side of the spectrum is against the idea of certain people having the opportunities to be successful and chalk it down to it being a "participation trophy".
Would that opposite side be the side thats had two female prime ministers and a Hindu prime minister? 🥪
Three females, one Hindu, one Jewish...
Wasn’t one of the females a lettuce
That was just cos play "
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By *ea monkey OP Man 2 weeks ago
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"I don’t think being woke is bad I think extreme left and right is bad ideally we should all be able to live our lives exactly how we want to live it without being told from others that we should change. But also we need to accept that not everyone will agree to everything we do so if agree to disagree was more common then we’d probably all get along a lot better (mr)"
I tend to agree. I think that echo chambers are the real issue |
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"But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️
Yeah but the thread is about 'woke'
and wanting equality of opportunity isn't exclusively a woke ideology as much as they want to claim it is. 🥪
It kind of is when the opposite side of the spectrum is against the idea of certain people having the opportunities to be successful and chalk it down to it being a "participation trophy".
Would that opposite side be the side thats had two female prime ministers and a Hindu prime minister? 🥪"
Just because those are examples in the last 50 years, doesn't mean it includes every day life of people in certain other careers. They still exist regardless of who's in the top brass. |
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"I don’t think being woke is bad I think extreme left and right is bad ideally we should all be able to live our lives exactly how we want to live it without being told from others that we should change. But also we need to accept that not everyone will agree to everything we do so if agree to disagree was more common then we’d probably all get along a lot better (mr)
I tend to agree. I think that echo chambers are the real issue"
Especially online echo chambers, it is no wonder so many young people listen to the Andrew Tate's of the world.
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Seems that those on the right get upset about the woke agenda or the woke mind virus and just basically should be admitting that what was considered " Acceptable" decades ago isn't nowadays as hopefully we've all grown up and realised that some of what we all laughed at or said was "Offensive" ? but got a tad silly now as in the so called woke students backing the likes of hamas ?? etc etc etc ..x  |
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"I don’t think being woke is bad I think extreme left and right is bad ideally we should all be able to live our lives exactly how we want to live it without being told from others that we should change. But also we need to accept that not everyone will agree to everything we do so if agree to disagree was more common then we’d probably all get along a lot better (mr)
I tend to agree. I think that echo chambers are the real issue"
That’s why I don’t do much social media I’ve got this and an instagram page for a hobby I do and that’s it |
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Three females, one Hindu, one Jewish...
Wasn’t one of the females a lettuce
That was just cos play "
Ooooh you’re a little* gem you are
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"I don’t think being woke is bad I think extreme left and right is bad ideally we should all be able to live our lives exactly how we want to live it without being told from others that we should change. But also we need to accept that not everyone will agree to everything we do so if agree to disagree was more common then we’d probably all get along a lot better (mr)"
I remember seeing young obviously left wing people supporting Hamas during the major protests last year. Now criticise Israel all you like and support Palestinian civilians. But supporting Hamas of all groups? The same organisation that believes in stories of Jews wanting to take over the world. And wishes for the annihilation of Jews worldwide. Yeah no that is absolutely sickening. |
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I could read this bottom up and guess pretty much who has written each post.
I am sure by the time this gets to 175+ everyone will be in blissful agreement. So while I wait for this to happen I'll have a daydream about outdoor sex. 😈😍 |
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"I could read this bottom up and guess pretty much who has written each post.
I am sure by the time this gets to 175+ everyone will be in blissful agreement. So while I wait for this to happen I'll have a daydream about outdoor sex. 😈😍"
It's lovely and warm today, isn't it, Mrs x |
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"I could read this bottom up and guess pretty much who has written each post.
I am sure by the time this gets to 175+ everyone will be in blissful agreement. So while I wait for this to happen I'll have a daydream about outdoor sex. 😈😍It's lovely and warm today, isn't it, Mrs x"
It really is. Almost sundress weather 😁 |
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By *otMe66Man 2 weeks ago
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Do people really need to have "woke" defined when it is such a commonly used word in all parts of life, or is that the way to try and discredit the word by arguing semantics once a definition is provided? |
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"I could read this bottom up and guess pretty much who has written each post.
I am sure by the time this gets to 175+ everyone will be in blissful agreement. So while I wait for this to happen I'll have a daydream about outdoor sex. 😈😍It's lovely and warm today, isn't it, Mrs x
It really is. Almost sundress weather 😁"
I'm actually sat in our garden with much less than a sundress on, can't believe it, so early in the year too, Mrs x |
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"Is it not majorly ‘woke’ people who get offended on behalf of others?
Who argue about things the majority of others would let slip?
Who take criticism and imply you’re being degrading when it’s evident no intent was met?
I think you're talking if the small minority who do that, similar to how a small minority think they should be allowed to say and do what they want without being called out on it. In reality, real people fall somewhere in the middle.
Sorry but I will continue to call out anyone who uses this rationale as an excuse to bully anyone.
Do you think that calling a woman that has transitioned ‘a man in a dress’ is bullying someone? That gay characters on TV is ‘shoving it down our throats’ or that gay sex between men is ‘disgusting and abhorrent’ is bullying?
These are common and current attitudes that people on this thread and others have used"
Obviously, yes that would be bullying. And I've never said those things in my life before anyone tars me with that brush. |
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"Do people really need to have "woke" defined when it is such a commonly used word in all parts of life, or is that the way to try and discredit the word by arguing semantics once a definition is provided? "
Woke now covers so many areas and you are right, people like to be obtuse and ask you for a definition when it's obvious you are using a definition that's used widely. They do this to grandiose themselves as somehow being a superior authority on all things woke or just to try and rip someone's argument apart. It's pathetic really, especially when this tactic is used by someone claiming to support woke ideals because I believe most people view being woke as just being nice and considerate to others, something people who use this linguistic device of definition definitely aren't.
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My biggest issue with "woke" people is that they want to encourage freedoms and critical thinking, unfortunately it needs to align with their beliefs. It's all a bunch of bullshit and the worst ends of the spectrum are the ones controlling the narrative and causing friction.
You don't have to be right wing just because you believe in two genders. |
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People can be as woke as they want,I think what winds people up is when you don't care about what they find important they automatically think that you are against them so in there eyes your the enemy,belive in what you want just realise there are other people who don't hold the same views or in my case don't really give a fuck about things that don't affect me,as long as friends and family are fine I really don't care about people I don't know |
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By *ea monkey OP Man 2 weeks ago
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"Do people really need to have "woke" defined when it is such a commonly used word in all parts of life, or is that the way to try and discredit the word by arguing semantics once a definition is provided? Woke now covers so many areas and you are right, people like to be obtuse and ask you for a definition when it's obvious you are using a definition that's used widely. They do this to grandiose themselves as somehow being a superior authority on all things woke or just to try and rip someone's argument apart. It's pathetic really, especially when this tactic is used by someone claiming to support woke ideals because I believe most people view being woke as just being nice and considerate to others, something people who use this linguistic device of definition definitely aren't.
Mrs x"
That’s quite a reach and a twist to demonise me in this question.
If it’s so common then please define it? Also if it’s being nice and considerate, then why is it a bad thing? |
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"There is a saying that principles aren’t principles until they cost you something. And this is the problem with woke. Too much trying on beliefs and ideas like clothes, to be discarded when they become inconvenient or expensive.
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"Do people really need to have "woke" defined when it is such a commonly used word in all parts of life, or is that the way to try and discredit the word by arguing semantics once a definition is provided? Woke now covers so many areas and you are right, people like to be obtuse and ask you for a definition when it's obvious you are using a definition that's used widely. They do this to grandiose themselves as somehow being a superior authority on all things woke or just to try and rip someone's argument apart. It's pathetic really, especially when this tactic is used by someone claiming to support woke ideals because I believe most people view being woke as just being nice and considerate to others, something people who use this linguistic device of definition definitely aren't.
Mrs x
That’s quite a reach and a twist to demonise me in this question.
If it’s so common then please define it? Also if it’s being nice and considerate, then why is it a bad thing? "
You do know I wasn't mentioning you, I was replying to someone else about their question regarding clarification of the definition of woke. I never said anything about you, your posts. I certainly wasnt demonising you, i wasnt even thi ki g about you or anything youd written.
Do you feel a certain way about this issue and that's why you feel as if it's all about you, or is it just a bit narcissistic in that you'd like it to be about you, when it genuinely wasn't.
As for 'nice and considerate' and that being bad I never said it was. It's a good thing, maybe you should re-read what I've actually posted to see what I actually said about this. If, through either a lack of your comprehension or my comprehension skills, you still think that I've said nice and considerate is a 'bad thing' then I'll try to put it more simply but I don't think I'll have to once you have read it properly a second time.
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"Do people really need to have "woke" defined when it is such a commonly used word in all parts of life, or is that the way to try and discredit the word by arguing semantics once a definition is provided? Woke now covers so many areas and you are right, people like to be obtuse and ask you for a definition when it's obvious you are using a definition that's used widely. They do this to grandiose themselves as somehow being a superior authority on all things woke or just to try and rip someone's argument apart. It's pathetic really, especially when this tactic is used by someone claiming to support woke ideals because I believe most people view being woke as just being nice and considerate to others, something people who use this linguistic device of definition definitely aren't.
Mrs x
That’s quite a reach and a twist to demonise me in this question.
If it’s so common then please define it? Also if it’s being nice and considerate, then why is it a bad thing? "
Demonise, poor you.
Common words that can't be defined seem to be popular in this genre, "woman", for instance, how would you define a woman OP? |
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 2 weeks ago
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"Do people really need to have "woke" defined when it is such a commonly used word in all parts of life, or is that the way to try and discredit the word by arguing semantics once a definition is provided? "
Y'up I'm woke. The definition I've found is "alert to important facts and issues, especially issues of racial and social justice". I'm alert to these things, I just don't give a shit about them. |
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By *ea monkey OP Man 2 weeks ago
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"Do people really need to have "woke" defined when it is such a commonly used word in all parts of life, or is that the way to try and discredit the word by arguing semantics once a definition is provided? Woke now covers so many areas and you are right, people like to be obtuse and ask you for a definition when it's obvious you are using a definition that's used widely. They do this to grandiose themselves as somehow being a superior authority on all things woke or just to try and rip someone's argument apart. It's pathetic really, especially when this tactic is used by someone claiming to support woke ideals because I believe most people view being woke as just being nice and considerate to others, something people who use this linguistic device of definition definitely aren't.
Mrs x
That’s quite a reach and a twist to demonise me in this question.
If it’s so common then please define it? Also if it’s being nice and considerate, then why is it a bad thing? You do know I wasn't mentioning you, I was replying to someone else about their question regarding clarification of the definition of woke. I never said anything about you, your posts. I certainly wasnt demonising you, i wasnt even thi ki g about you or anything youd written.
Do you feel a certain way about this issue and that's why you feel as if it's all about you, or is it just a bit narcissistic in that you'd like it to be about you, when it genuinely wasn't.
As for 'nice and considerate' and that being bad I never said it was. It's a good thing, maybe you should re-read what I've actually posted to see what I actually said about this. If, through either a lack of your comprehension or my comprehension skills, you still think that I've said nice and considerate is a 'bad thing' then I'll try to put it more simply but I don't think I'll have to once you have read it properly a second time.
Mrs x"
Another twist and a heft. Good luck with those swings and misses |
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"Do people really need to have "woke" defined when it is such a commonly used word in all parts of life, or is that the way to try and discredit the word by arguing semantics once a definition is provided? Woke now covers so many areas and you are right, people like to be obtuse and ask you for a definition when it's obvious you are using a definition that's used widely. They do this to grandiose themselves as somehow being a superior authority on all things woke or just to try and rip someone's argument apart. It's pathetic really, especially when this tactic is used by someone claiming to support woke ideals because I believe most people view being woke as just being nice and considerate to others, something people who use this linguistic device of definition definitely aren't.
Mrs x
That’s quite a reach and a twist to demonise me in this question.
If it’s so common then please define it? Also if it’s being nice and considerate, then why is it a bad thing?
Demonise, poor you.
Common words that can't be defined seem to be popular in this genre, "woman", for instance, how would you define a woman OP? "
Let’s not get off topic. How about you answer my question first or start your own thread? |
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"Do people really need to have "woke" defined when it is such a commonly used word in all parts of life, or is that the way to try and discredit the word by arguing semantics once a definition is provided? Woke now covers so many areas and you are right, people like to be obtuse and ask you for a definition when it's obvious you are using a definition that's used widely. They do this to grandiose themselves as somehow being a superior authority on all things woke or just to try and rip someone's argument apart. It's pathetic really, especially when this tactic is used by someone claiming to support woke ideals because I believe most people view being woke as just being nice and considerate to others, something people who use this linguistic device of definition definitely aren't.
Mrs x
That’s quite a reach and a twist to demonise me in this question.
If it’s so common then please define it? Also if it’s being nice and considerate, then why is it a bad thing? You do know I wasn't mentioning you, I was replying to someone else about their question regarding clarification of the definition of woke. I never said anything about you, your posts. I certainly wasnt demonising you, i wasnt even thi ki g about you or anything youd written.
Do you feel a certain way about this issue and that's why you feel as if it's all about you, or is it just a bit narcissistic in that you'd like it to be about you, when it genuinely wasn't.
As for 'nice and considerate' and that being bad I never said it was. It's a good thing, maybe you should re-read what I've actually posted to see what I actually said about this. If, through either a lack of your comprehension or my comprehension skills, you still think that I've said nice and considerate is a 'bad thing' then I'll try to put it more simply but I don't think I'll have to once you have read it properly a second time.
Mrs x
Another twist and a heft. Good luck with those swings and misses"
You like asking but not answering it seems.
I haven't missed a thing and you know it that's why you cannot point out what you are trying to say.
Just try, doesn't matter if you get it wrong but give it a go. Tell me where I said being considerate and nice is a bad thing.
Give it just one shot at how I was demonising you, when I wasn't communicating with, or about, you.
Don't you like being ignored? Sorry that's another question I know how you hate, and have trouble answering those.
Here's hoping against the inevitable haha,
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"Do people really need to have "woke" defined when it is such a commonly used word in all parts of life, or is that the way to try and discredit the word by arguing semantics once a definition is provided? Woke now covers so many areas and you are right, people like to be obtuse and ask you for a definition when it's obvious you are using a definition that's used widely. They do this to grandiose themselves as somehow being a superior authority on all things woke or just to try and rip someone's argument apart. It's pathetic really, especially when this tactic is used by someone claiming to support woke ideals because I believe most people view being woke as just being nice and considerate to others, something people who use this linguistic device of definition definitely aren't.
Mrs x
That’s quite a reach and a twist to demonise me in this question.
If it’s so common then please define it? Also if it’s being nice and considerate, then why is it a bad thing?
Demonise, poor you.
Common words that can't be defined seem to be popular in this genre, "woman", for instance, how would you define a woman OP?
Let’s not get off topic. How about you answer my question first or start your own thread? "
I did ,, up there 👆 ,it's just your cry bully, martyr complex that I associate with woke-mess , triggered me . |
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"Right wing folks and believers, please explain "
So, I see you are keen just for an answer to your original post. Hope this is an answer.
I'm short, yes woke ideology has become bad. The sentiment of the majority of woke individuals I'm sure is good.
The 'bad' stems from the shift in the use of the term woke from it's original definition/sentiment.
The term has been "weaponised" & now creates divisions. creating barriers to open discussion, as people automatically assume woke means one thing and it might mean another depending on your belief.
It's lost its footing. In the same way over the years Christianity has lost its footing because of all the bad people in it. Woke has
moved from a positive agenda. I honestly believe that it is now seen as bad because the minority of the "woke"agenda pushed and pushed and eventually the centre opposition (you called them the right) pushed back because their own beliefs are now being challenged and demonised in the same way that many minorities were harassed or persecuted for. Hope that makes sense. X |
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I don’t identify as right wing or left wing. I don’t like the zealots on either side: the hang ‘em and flog brigade and the everyone is a victim brigade are as bad as each other.
The world is nuanced and the thing I don’t like about how “woke” (whatever that now means) has played out is the zealotry nature of it. This binary view of the world - you are either with us or against us - is just wrong. Life is lived in the mucky grey world of compromise and that doesn’t sit well with the purist view that is often espoused. |
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"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish?
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅
Maybe the Scots shouldn’t have hating the English as their national identity then? 😇😈
I guess it’s less about being a victim. And more because the English are cunts xx
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"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish?
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅
Maybe the Scots shouldn’t have hating the English as their national identity then? 😇😈
I guess it’s less about being a victim. And more because the English are cunts xx
The world is divided into two countries groups. Those who have one and those who are one "
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"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish?
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅
Maybe the Scots shouldn’t have hating the English as their national identity then? 😇😈
I guess it’s less about being a victim. And more because the English are cunts xx
You’ve got me there
Please don’t tell all my English hating friends that the English accent does it for me🙊x"
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In the performative age of the Internet and Social Media, what people say they believe has never had less value and what they actually do has never been more important.
Wokeness at heart is a performative movement, not a political one. It is about saying you are 'woke' as opposed to being asleep like the others, like those deplorables as they were once described. In its founding vocabulary the woke are elevated above the rest in their awareness and morality. That clearly has great appeal to the ego and vanity.
But what have the woke actually achieved politically ? In the US where wokeness arose Donald Trump has been elected twice, in no small part due to the atmosphere of division and tribalism enhanced by woke's embrace of identity politics in every aspect of life.
In Europe almost every country has moved to the right in the last ten years, some to the far right.
That is woke's real legacy, and only when the political left again adopts policies that are both pragmatic and popular (as it has done in Denmark for example) will it return to power and the worst forces of intolerance recede.
So essentially, thanks for nothing, woke !
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"Depends on your idea of "woke" really.
Acknowledging and discussing the issues around discrimination and prejudice against gender, race, religion, disabilities and everything else. No, not bad at all.
Hypocritical people using it as an excuse to play victim when they are a bit of a prat, and attack other groups, yes. Those are the "woke" people that I tend to avoid, or call out.
The difference in language you used between the two paragraphs highlights the issue though, right? Unfortunately, those against certain "woke" ideas use loaded language as a way to cause division rather than actually having a calm and reasonable discussion which is why emotions trump any sort of rationality when talking about the subject.
I agree that defining Woke, is a huge problem. The original meaning has started to change to be used as derogatory term.
Now for my thoughts...
I'm open to treating everyone with equity.
I will also try my utmost to respect others beliefs.
I have experienced that if I hold a right wing point of view, let's use gender identity as an example. I have been told I'm wrong and that I need to change.
I then question who has priority in the "my opinion is correct"game?
I'll never say someone's opinion is wrong, I might disagree, but they are entitled to form their own thoughts.
However, when facts and science are disregarded then I will say that someone is wrong as and try and offer the facts.
So I'm short I dislike that the conversations are so emotive around being woke. If we're all expected to conform and accept the woke ideology then why can't they accept others might wish to disagree with them without being ridiculed?"
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"But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️
Yeah but the thread is about 'woke'
and wanting equality of opportunity isn't exclusively a woke ideology as much as they want to claim it is. 🥪
It kind of is when the opposite side of the spectrum is against the idea of certain people having the opportunities to be successful and chalk it down to it being a "participation trophy".
Would that opposite side be the side thats had two female prime ministers and a Hindu prime minister? 🥪"
Three female PMs |
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"Claiming to be the inclusive and tolerant side whist being the exact opposite
Blue hair
Public meltdowns
Pronouns in bio
Trump derangement syndrome
Still wear facemasks
Think the Huffington Post, Guardian and Janes O Brien are reliable sources of news
Probably Vegan
Usually on some type of pills just to deal with 'life' 🥪
That’s bait. Good luck with that and enjoy your sammich
The entire thread topic was bait...🥪"
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That’s bait. Good luck with that and enjoy your sammich
The whole thread has gone exactly how you thought it would, has it not?
Not at all. I’m hoping to hear what people think it means.
What do right wing people think that woke means and why it’s bad?
So far all I’ve seen is people listing behaviours that can be attributed to both extremes
I don't think there's that many Right Wing orientated on here, at least that's my impression on the politics section."
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"But you could do easily create a stereotype of people with the opposite view and their tendencies... Ultimately, you can be as different as you want from the norm while still wanting equality for everyone and recognising social injustices. Y'know, what woke idealogies are really about 🤷♂️
Yeah but the thread is about 'woke'
and wanting equality of opportunity isn't exclusively a woke ideology as much as they want to claim it is. 🥪
It kind of is when the opposite side of the spectrum is against the idea of certain people having the opportunities to be successful and chalk it down to it being a "participation trophy".
Would that opposite side be the side thats had two female prime ministers and a Hindu prime minister? 🥪
Three females, one Hindu, one Jewish...
Wasn’t one of the females a lettuce
That was just cos play "
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"Depends on your idea of "woke" really.
Acknowledging and discussing the issues around discrimination and prejudice against gender, race, religion, disabilities and everything else. No, not bad at all.
Hypocritical people using it as an excuse to play victim when they are a bit of a prat, and attack other groups, yes. Those are the "woke" people that I tend to avoid, or call out.
The difference in language you used between the two paragraphs highlights the issue though, right? Unfortunately, those against certain "woke" ideas use loaded language as a way to cause division rather than actually having a calm and reasonable discussion which is why emotions trump any sort of rationality when talking about the subject.
I agree that defining Woke, is a huge problem. The original meaning has started to change to be used as derogatory term.
Now for my thoughts...
I'm open to treating everyone with equity.
I will also try my utmost to respect others beliefs.
I have experienced that if I hold a right wing point of view, let's use gender identity as an example. I have been told I'm wrong and that I need to change.
I then question who has priority in the "my opinion is correct"game?
I'll never say someone's opinion is wrong, I might disagree, but they are entitled to form their own thoughts.
However, when facts and science are disregarded then I will say that someone is wrong as and try and offer the facts.
So I'm short I dislike that the conversations are so emotive around being woke. If we're all expected to conform and accept the woke ideology then why can't they accept others might wish to disagree with them without being ridiculed?
5'10" isn't short "
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"Right wing folks and believers, please explain "
Is it now woke to declare a gender and preferred pronouns to a city? For example, if someone lives in Manchester (he/him), is that not assuming the gender of said city? |
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"Right wing folks and believers, please explain
Is it now woke to declare a gender and preferred pronouns to a city? For example, if someone lives in Manchester (he/him), is that not assuming the gender of said city?"
Well, a table and window are both female, just ask the French. So why not a city |
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I remember seeing young obviously left wing people
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I'd be grateful if you would tell us all how you can discern someone's politics just by looking at them.
Why were these young people that you saw, "obviously left wing," please? |
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By *9alMan 2 weeks ago
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"Right wing folks and believers, please explain
Is it now woke to declare a gender and preferred pronouns to a city? For example, if someone lives in Manchester (he/him), is that not assuming the gender of said city?
Well, a table and window are both female, just ask the French. So why not a city "
I think some people have a problem with Manchester beginning with the word MAN I am not sure about Sheffield ? |
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"Right wing folks and believers, please explain
Is it now woke to declare a gender and preferred pronouns to a city? For example, if someone lives in Manchester (he/him), is that not assuming the gender of said city?
Well, a table and window are both female, just ask the French. So why not a city
I think some people have a problem with Manchester beginning with the word MAN I am not sure about Sheffield ? "
Something is cooking.. |
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"Right wing folks and believers, please explain
Is it now woke to declare a gender and preferred pronouns to a city? For example, if someone lives in Manchester (he/him), is that not assuming the gender of said city?
Well, a table and window are both female, just ask the French. So why not a city
I think some people have a problem with Manchester beginning with the word MAN I am not sure about Sheffield ? "
As for Scunthorpe...
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Is it now woke to declare a gender and preferred pronouns to a city? For example, if someone lives in Manchester (he/him), is that not assuming the gender of said city?
Well, a table and window are both female, just ask the French. So why not a city
I think some people have a problem with Manchester beginning with the word MAN I am not sure about Sheffield ? "
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 2 weeks ago
Burley |
"Right wing folks and believers, please explain
Is it now woke to declare a gender and preferred pronouns to a city? For example, if someone lives in Manchester (he/him), is that not assuming the gender of said city?
Well, a table and window are both female, just ask the French. So why not a city
I think some people have a problem with Manchester beginning with the word MAN I am not sure about Sheffield ? "
I think they may be considering a name-change to Unspecifiedgenderchester. It just rolls off the tongue, don't it? |
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"Right wing folks and believers, please explain
Is it now woke to declare a gender and preferred pronouns to a city? For example, if someone lives in Manchester (he/him), is that not assuming the gender of said city?
Well, a table and window are both female, just ask the French. So why not a city
I think some people have a problem with Manchester beginning with the word MAN I am not sure about Sheffield ?
I think they may be considering a name-change to Unspecifiedgenderchester. It just rolls off the tongue, don't it? "
Any suggestions for Shitterton, Cockermouth, Fingringhoe or my personal favourite Wetwang,
Mrs x |
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"Right wing folks and believers, please explain
Is it now woke to declare a gender and preferred pronouns to a city? For example, if someone lives in Manchester (he/him), is that not assuming the gender of said city?
Well, a table and window are both female, just ask the French. So why not a city
I think some people have a problem with Manchester beginning with the word MAN I am not sure about Sheffield ?
I think they may be considering a name-change to Unspecifiedgenderchester. It just rolls off the tongue, don't it? Any suggestions for Shitterton, Cockermouth, Fingringhoe or my personal favourite Wetwang,
Mrs x"
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"Right wing folks and believers, please explain
Is it now woke to declare a gender and preferred pronouns to a city? For example, if someone lives in Manchester (he/him), is that not assuming the gender of said city?
Well, a table and window are both female, just ask the French. So why not a city
I think some people have a problem with Manchester beginning with the word MAN I am not sure about Sheffield ?
I think they may be considering a name-change to Unspecifiedgenderchester. It just rolls off the tongue, don't it? Any suggestions for Shitterton, Cockermouth, Fingringhoe or my personal favourite Wetwang,
Mrs x
😂😂😂"
#Wetwang Woke Association.... #Wetwangklan !!! |
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By *AM2214Man 2 weeks ago
Manchester Area |
"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish?
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅
Maybe the Scots shouldn’t have hating the English as their national identity then? 😇😈
I guess it’s less about being a victim. And more because the English are cunts xx
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By *AM2214Man 2 weeks ago
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"I don't even know what "woke" means. It's not even in my vocabulary because I don't how to use it. I accept the blissful state of my ignorance."
Google it and get more confused...the OP supposes that only 'right wing' can offer a view on this, which seems like a strange startpoint for a debate to remain healthy. There have been plenty of cases of so called Left Wing hitting out at far left (what is that nearly far right ?
An emerging and educating post though, so thanks to the OP...and there are some many ironies...an English hating Scot lives in Manchester a City that only remained English because Scottish troops wanted their pay, didn't get paid went home instead..
WOKE seems to have become mainstream easy starter to ignite anger rather to to just highlight injustices as it it started out....I have mates who are all over the political spectrum so I am happy just sitting listening to both sides of any argument then reflecting upon what is the strongest argument or more correctly what the weaknesses are in both arguments |
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"I don't even know what "woke" means. It's not even in my vocabulary because I don't how to use it. I accept the blissful state of my ignorance.Google it and get more confused...the OP supposes that only 'right wing' can offer a view on this, which seems like a strange startpoint for a debate to remain healthy. There have been plenty of cases of so called Left Wing hitting out at far left (what is that nearly far right ?
An emerging and educating post though, so thanks to the OP...and there are some many ironies...an English hating Scot lives in Manchester a City that only remained English because Scottish troops wanted their pay, didn't get paid went home instead..
WOKE seems to have become mainstream easy starter to ignite anger rather to to just highlight injustices as it it started out....I have mates who are all over the political spectrum so I am happy just sitting listening to both sides of any argument then reflecting upon what is the strongest argument or more correctly what the weaknesses are in both arguments "
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By *AM2214Man 2 weeks ago
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"I enjoy a good argument, where at the end ,if it's undecided ,everyone can agree to disagree, unfortunately, if you are WOKE, this is impossible. "
I've plenty of friends who are not woke at all but won't admit their argument is weak even if they were getting wet they'd swear there is a drought |
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"Right wing folks and believers, please explain
Is it now woke to declare a gender and preferred pronouns to a city? For example, if someone lives in Manchester (he/him), is that not assuming the gender of said city?
Well, a table and window are both female, just ask the French. So why not a city
I think some people have a problem with Manchester beginning with the word MAN I am not sure about Sheffield ?
I think they may be considering a name-change to Unspecifiedgenderchester. It just rolls off the tongue, don't it? "
AMABchester is better |
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"Right wing folks and believers, please explain
Is it now woke to declare a gender and preferred pronouns to a city? For example, if someone lives in Manchester (he/him), is that not assuming the gender of said city?
Well, a table and window are both female, just ask the French. So why not a city
I think some people have a problem with Manchester beginning with the word MAN I am not sure about Sheffield ?
I think they may be considering a name-change to Unspecifiedgenderchester. It just rolls off the tongue, don't it? Any suggestions for Shitterton, Cockermouth, Fingringhoe or my personal favourite Wetwang,
Mrs x
😂😂😂
#Wetwang Woke Association.... #Wetwangklan !!!"
Nobody it has to be WWF Wetwang Woke Federation
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"I enjoy a good argument, where at the end ,if it's undecided ,everyone can agree to disagree, unfortunately, if you are WOKE, this is impossible.
I've plenty of friends who are not woke at all but won't admit their argument is weak even if they were getting wet they'd swear there is a drought "
I also believe that all people who are cunts might not be woke, but all people who are woke night fit the bill. |
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"Right wing folks and believers, please explain
Is it now woke to declare a gender and preferred pronouns to a city? For example, if someone lives in Manchester (he/him), is that not assuming the gender of said city?
Well, a table and window are both female, just ask the French. So why not a city
I think some people have a problem with Manchester beginning with the word MAN I am not sure about Sheffield ?
I think they may be considering a name-change to Unspecifiedgenderchester. It just rolls off the tongue, don't it?
AMABchester is better "
And his sister AFABchester which his pals call a fab chest |
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By *AM2214Man 2 weeks ago
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"I enjoy a good argument, where at the end ,if it's undecided ,everyone can agree to disagree, unfortunately, if you are WOKE, this is impossible.
I've plenty of friends who are not woke at all but won't admit their argument is weak even if they were getting wet they'd swear there is a drought
I also believe that all people who are cunts might not be woke, but all people who are woke night fit the bill."
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Good uns, bad ubs and then there are wankers ... |
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"If you’re someone who enjoys firework displays, next time you hear someone getting upset and accusing others of being woke, tell them to stop being a snowflake and retire to a safe distance."
Dafe distance from the fireworks pr the snowflake? Mrs x
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There are thousands of people all over the world, whom are just waiting for an excuse to be offended. That is the end of their waiting, as they play the eternal victim card.
They have this massive self important attitude going on. This in mind, I believe the best thing to do is to ignore them. Just don’t respond, I for one have no interest in them.
Moving on… |
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"Don’t get me started, I’ll end up offending EVERYONE.
My brothers married to a man, they’re lovely together.
It was his birthday meal and lots of wine was consumed last Friday.. I mentioned word relating to Nicola sturgeon and all hell broke lose😅😅
Scottish?
Yeah I’m Scottish and HATE victim mentality 😅
Maybe the Scots shouldn’t have hating the English as their national identity then? 😇😈
I guess it’s less about being a victim. And more because the English are cunts xx
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