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Welby: wasn't pushy enough. Didn't realise when new in 2013 how bad it was (Smythe's activities). Found safeguarding was half a person. Details not apparent before 2017. First allegation 2013. |
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He's a fucking liar or so incompetent he should never have been in post for as long as he did..
'it was overwhelming'..
It's child abuse, so hand it to an appropriate body to deal with it as it's the protection of innocent children from ones colleagues and it's not stopping because we the organisation have moved the deviant predators to other places where we know it will happen again..
Facilitation of such vile acts in order to protect the club..
Lock him and them up, the lot of them who knew and still know.. |
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A very talented individual who has worked extremely hard to forward the activities of the church.
Everyone can make the right decisions with the benefit of hindsight. You would normally need hard evidence before reporting such matters. You can hardly report an issue simply because you think something might have happened.
If we seek to address blame culture and want to hold people accountable a wide variety of issues would have to be be examined. What background were the child's parents from. ? Did they have any issues? What about schooling and how did the situation arise where an individual was in contact with a priest by themselves. Were social services involved in a child's welfare
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It is hardly a simple issue. Archbishop Welby had a very successfull career in a top rated plc prior to joining the Church. We should respect him for admitting that mistakes were made . Anyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight |
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"A very talented individual who has worked extremely hard to forward the activities of the church.
Everyone can make the right decisions with the benefit of hindsight. You would normally need hard evidence before reporting such matters. You can hardly report an issue simply because you think something might have happened.
If we seek to address blame culture and want to hold people accountable a wide variety of issues would have to be be examined. What background were the child's parents from. ? Did they have any issues? What about schooling and how did the situation arise where an individual was in contact with a priest by themselves. Were social services involved in a child's welfare
.
It is hardly a simple issue. Archbishop Welby had a very successfull career in a top rated plc prior to joining the Church. We should respect him for admitting that mistakes were made . Anyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight "
You are a complete and utter fool..
They knew about child abuse yet hid it..
Why anyone would seek to excuse such vile acts against children is sickening..
Such an attitude is how predators thrive ..
Shame upon you.. |
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I think, like many institutions, its rotten to the core and couldn't really stand up to any outside scrutiny.
Fucking religion, can't abide it, but I am biased.
I went to a girls Catholic school.
My mum passed away when I was 9 years old.
One of the nuns kindly advised me my lovely mum must have done something terribly wrong in a previous life to be taken so young.
Lovely to know such care and compassion is all around us.
Unbelievable. |
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"A very talented individual who has worked extremely hard to forward the activities of the church.
Everyone can make the right decisions with the benefit of hindsight. You would normally need hard evidence before reporting such matters. You can hardly report an issue simply because you think something might have happened.
If we seek to address blame culture and want to hold people accountable a wide variety of issues would have to be be examined. What background were the child's parents from. ? Did they have any issues? What about schooling and how did the situation arise where an individual was in contact with a priest by themselves. Were social services involved in a child's welfare
.
It is hardly a simple issue. Archbishop Welby had a very successfull career in a top rated plc prior to joining the Church. We should respect him for admitting that mistakes were made . Anyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight
You are a complete and utter fool..
They knew about child abuse yet hid it..
Why anyone would seek to excuse such vile acts against children is sickening..
Such an attitude is how predators thrive ..
Shame upon you.."
. A very brave person calling someone a fool on the Internet but too cowardly to say it to their face.
Normally you would need evidence to report such crimes , not simply to rely on hearsay and rumours .
What actions did the relatives of the victim take or others involved such as social workers ( if any ). Did the police ever recognise any issues .
The Archbishop of Canterbury recognised that mistakes were made . Everyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight. |
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"A very talented individual who has worked extremely hard to forward the activities of the church.
Everyone can make the right decisions with the benefit of hindsight. You would normally need hard evidence before reporting such matters. You can hardly report an issue simply because you think something might have happened.
If we seek to address blame culture and want to hold people accountable a wide variety of issues would have to be be examined. What background were the child's parents from. ? Did they have any issues? What about schooling and how did the situation arise where an individual was in contact with a priest by themselves. Were social services involved in a child's welfare
.
It is hardly a simple issue. Archbishop Welby had a very successfull career in a top rated plc prior to joining the Church. We should respect him for admitting that mistakes were made . Anyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight
You are a complete and utter fool..
They knew about child abuse yet hid it..
Why anyone would seek to excuse such vile acts against children is sickening..
Such an attitude is how predators thrive ..
Shame upon you... A very brave person calling someone a fool on the Internet but too cowardly to say it to their face.
Normally you would need evidence to report such crimes , not simply to rely on hearsay and rumours .
What actions did the relatives of the victim take or others involved such as social workers ( if any ). Did the police ever recognise any issues .
The Archbishop of Canterbury recognised that mistakes were made . Everyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight. "
I would say it loud and clear to your face pat..
So clear that anyone in earshot would know your a fool who puts the protection of children below some cult..
Do me a fucking favour and go and look at what's gone on, and after you have (which I doubt) come back on here in this public forum and carry on excusing the vile actions of paedo#hiles and the morons who hid them as Welby and others did and still do..
Educate away your ignorance.. |
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"A very talented individual who has worked extremely hard to forward the activities of the church.
Everyone can make the right decisions with the benefit of hindsight. You would normally need hard evidence before reporting such matters. You can hardly report an issue simply because you think something might have happened.
If we seek to address blame culture and want to hold people accountable a wide variety of issues would have to be be examined. What background were the child's parents from. ? Did they have any issues? What about schooling and how did the situation arise where an individual was in contact with a priest by themselves. Were social services involved in a child's welfare
.
It is hardly a simple issue. Archbishop Welby had a very successfull career in a top rated plc prior to joining the Church. We should respect him for admitting that mistakes were made . Anyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight
You are a complete and utter fool..
They knew about child abuse yet hid it..
Why anyone would seek to excuse such vile acts against children is sickening..
Such an attitude is how predators thrive ..
Shame upon you... A very brave person calling someone a fool on the Internet but too cowardly to say it to their face.
Normally you would need evidence to report such crimes , not simply to rely on hearsay and rumours .
What actions did the relatives of the victim take or others involved such as social workers ( if any ). Did the police ever recognise any issues .
The Archbishop of Canterbury recognised that mistakes were made . Everyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight. "
He was new when first allegation was made and by the sounds of the interview the police were already involved and told him to not interfere.
Lessons must have been learned as they have gone from a part-time safeguarding officer to 60.
Btw I'm reporting what I heard, not defending anyone.
Believe me when I say special treatment should be given to perps and criminal law applied to those who knew and did nothing.
The treatment would be "chop it off", and specific to the body part: hands, tongue, cock. |
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"A very talented individual who has worked extremely hard to forward the activities of the church.
Everyone can make the right decisions with the benefit of hindsight. You would normally need hard evidence before reporting such matters. You can hardly report an issue simply because you think something might have happened.
If we seek to address blame culture and want to hold people accountable a wide variety of issues would have to be be examined. What background were the child's parents from. ? Did they have any issues? What about schooling and how did the situation arise where an individual was in contact with a priest by themselves. Were social services involved in a child's welfare
.
It is hardly a simple issue. Archbishop Welby had a very successfull career in a top rated plc prior to joining the Church. We should respect him for admitting that mistakes were made . Anyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight
You are a complete and utter fool..
They knew about child abuse yet hid it..
Why anyone would seek to excuse such vile acts against children is sickening..
Such an attitude is how predators thrive ..
Shame upon you... A very brave person calling someone a fool on the Internet but too cowardly to say it to their face.
Normally you would need evidence to report such crimes , not simply to rely on hearsay and rumours .
What actions did the relatives of the victim take or others involved such as social workers ( if any ). Did the police ever recognise any issues .
The Archbishop of Canterbury recognised that mistakes were made . Everyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight.
I would say it loud and clear to your face pat..
So clear that anyone in earshot would know your a fool who puts the protection of children below some cult..
Do me a fucking favour and go and look at what's gone on, and after you have (which I doubt) come back on here in this public forum and carry on excusing the vile actions of paedo#hiles and the morons who hid them as Welby and others did and still do..
Educate away your ignorance.."
In real life people would not call someone a fool and the Church of England is not a cult. It is a long established Christian establishment which has helped many people. Your comment is bizarre . Christians would not turn a blind eye to the acts to which you refer. Lives are ruined by false or malicioue reports so anyone reporting these matters would need to be fairly certain of what events happened before filing a report. Lives have been ruined due to people filing false reports. Carl Beech is a good example- I think he is now serving a lengthy prison sentence. He lived in a fantasy world and made numerous false reports Children still go to Sunday School and are served by the church. You cannot pass judgement on a few isolated incidents. Safe guarding procedures have been stregthened.
Not many people would refer to a Church leader as moron. It is a comment that I a long way fro reality and probably the exclusive reserve of the key board warrior .
If you have a valid point why use derogatory language ? |
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"A very talented individual who has worked extremely hard to forward the activities of the church.
Everyone can make the right decisions with the benefit of hindsight. You would normally need hard evidence before reporting such matters. You can hardly report an issue simply because you think something might have happened.
If we seek to address blame culture and want to hold people accountable a wide variety of issues would have to be be examined. What background were the child's parents from. ? Did they have any issues? What about schooling and how did the situation arise where an individual was in contact with a priest by themselves. Were social services involved in a child's welfare
.
It is hardly a simple issue. Archbishop Welby had a very successfull career in a top rated plc prior to joining the Church. We should respect him for admitting that mistakes were made . Anyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight
You are a complete and utter fool..
They knew about child abuse yet hid it..
Why anyone would seek to excuse such vile acts against children is sickening..
Such an attitude is how predators thrive ..
Shame upon you... A very brave person calling someone a fool on the Internet but too cowardly to say it to their face.
Normally you would need evidence to report such crimes , not simply to rely on hearsay and rumours .
What actions did the relatives of the victim take or others involved such as social workers ( if any ). Did the police ever recognise any issues .
The Archbishop of Canterbury recognised that mistakes were made . Everyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight.
I would say it loud and clear to your face pat..
So clear that anyone in earshot would know your a fool who puts the protection of children below some cult..
Do me a fucking favour and go and look at what's gone on, and after you have (which I doubt) come back on here in this public forum and carry on excusing the vile actions of paedo#hiles and the morons who hid them as Welby and others did and still do..
Educate away your ignorance.. In real life people would not call someone a fool and the Church of England is not a cult. It is a long established Christian establishment which has helped many people. Your comment is bizarre . Christians would not turn a blind eye to the acts to which you refer. Lives are ruined by false or malicioue reports so anyone reporting these matters would need to be fairly certain of what events happened before filing a report. Lives have been ruined due to people filing false reports. Carl Beech is a good example- I think he is now serving a lengthy prison sentence. He lived in a fantasy world and made numerous false reports Children still go to Sunday School and are served by the church. You cannot pass judgement on a few isolated incidents. Safe guarding procedures have been stregthened.
Not many people would refer to a Church leader as moron. It is a comment that I a long way fro reality and probably the exclusive reserve of the key board warrior .
If you have a valid point why use derogatory language ? "
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"A very talented individual who has worked extremely hard to forward the activities of the church.
Everyone can make the right decisions with the benefit of hindsight. You would normally need hard evidence before reporting such matters. You can hardly report an issue simply because you think something might have happened.
If we seek to address blame culture and want to hold people accountable a wide variety of issues would have to be be examined. What background were the child's parents from. ? Did they have any issues? What about schooling and how did the situation arise where an individual was in contact with a priest by themselves. Were social services involved in a child's welfare
.
It is hardly a simple issue. Archbishop Welby had a very successfull career in a top rated plc prior to joining the Church. We should respect him for admitting that mistakes were made . Anyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight
You are a complete and utter fool..
They knew about child abuse yet hid it..
Why anyone would seek to excuse such vile acts against children is sickening..
Such an attitude is how predators thrive ..
Shame upon you... A very brave person calling someone a fool on the Internet but too cowardly to say it to their face.
Normally you would need evidence to report such crimes , not simply to rely on hearsay and rumours .
What actions did the relatives of the victim take or others involved such as social workers ( if any ). Did the police ever recognise any issues .
The Archbishop of Canterbury recognised that mistakes were made . Everyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight.
I would say it loud and clear to your face pat..
So clear that anyone in earshot would know your a fool who puts the protection of children below some cult..
Do me a fucking favour and go and look at what's gone on, and after you have (which I doubt) come back on here in this public forum and carry on excusing the vile actions of paedo#hiles and the morons who hid them as Welby and others did and still do..
Educate away your ignorance.. In real life people would not call someone a fool and the Church of England is not a cult. It is a long established Christian establishment which has helped many people. Your comment is bizarre . Christians would not turn a blind eye to the acts to which you refer. Lives are ruined by false or malicioue reports so anyone reporting these matters would need to be fairly certain of what events happened before filing a report. Lives have been ruined due to people filing false reports. Carl Beech is a good example- I think he is now serving a lengthy prison sentence. He lived in a fantasy world and made numerous false reports Children still go to Sunday School and are served by the church. You cannot pass judgement on a few isolated incidents. Safe guarding procedures have been stregthened.
Not many people would refer to a Church leader as moron. It is a comment that I a long way fro reality and probably the exclusive reserve of the key board warrior .
If you have a valid point why use derogatory language ? "
If "Christians would not turn a blind eye to the acts to which you refer", Welby can hardly be a Christian and should have investigated/handed this to the authorities/ resigned years ago.
And as someone who's clearly not a Christian he shouldn't be leader of the Christian Church.
Christian my arse.........
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"A very talented individual who has worked extremely hard to forward the activities of the church.
Everyone can make the right decisions with the benefit of hindsight. You would normally need hard evidence before reporting such matters. You can hardly report an issue simply because you think something might have happened.
If we seek to address blame culture and want to hold people accountable a wide variety of issues would have to be be examined. What background were the child's parents from. ? Did they have any issues? What about schooling and how did the situation arise where an individual was in contact with a priest by themselves. Were social services involved in a child's welfare
.
It is hardly a simple issue. Archbishop Welby had a very successfull career in a top rated plc prior to joining the Church. We should respect him for admitting that mistakes were made . Anyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight
You are a complete and utter fool..
They knew about child abuse yet hid it..
Why anyone would seek to excuse such vile acts against children is sickening..
Such an attitude is how predators thrive ..
Shame upon you... A very brave person calling someone a fool on the Internet but too cowardly to say it to their face.
Normally you would need evidence to report such crimes , not simply to rely on hearsay and rumours .
What actions did the relatives of the victim take or others involved such as social workers ( if any ). Did the police ever recognise any issues .
The Archbishop of Canterbury recognised that mistakes were made . Everyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight.
I would say it loud and clear to your face pat..
So clear that anyone in earshot would know your a fool who puts the protection of children below some cult..
Do me a fucking favour and go and look at what's gone on, and after you have (which I doubt) come back on here in this public forum and carry on excusing the vile actions of paedo#hiles and the morons who hid them as Welby and others did and still do..
Educate away your ignorance.. In real life people would not call someone a fool and the Church of England is not a cult. It is a long established Christian establishment which has helped many people. Your comment is bizarre . Christians would not turn a blind eye to the acts to which you refer. Lives are ruined by false or malicioue reports so anyone reporting these matters would need to be fairly certain of what events happened before filing a report. Lives have been ruined due to people filing false reports. Carl Beech is a good example- I think he is now serving a lengthy prison sentence. He lived in a fantasy world and made numerous false reports Children still go to Sunday School and are served by the church. You cannot pass judgement on a few isolated incidents. Safe guarding procedures have been stregthened.
Not many people would refer to a Church leader as moron. It is a comment that I a long way fro reality and probably the exclusive reserve of the key board warrior .
If you have a valid point why use derogatory language ?
If "Christians would not turn a blind eye to the acts to which you refer", Welby can hardly be a Christian and should have investigated/handed this to the authorities/ resigned years ago.
And as someone who's clearly not a Christian he shouldn't be leader of the Christian Church.
Christian my arse.........
J"
. Last time I checked he was still a member of the Anglican Church and proved to be a great leader. Many people are to blame for what happened , only a small portion of the blame can be directly apportioned to him. We can all make the correct decisions with the benefit of hindsight |
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By *9alMan 2 weeks ago
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unfortunately there is a long history of child abuse in Church situations & frequently the reputation of the church is seen more important than safeguarding children. until bishops are taken to court for turning a blind eye nothing will change |
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"What a complete waste of space he is.
“It was all too much. How was I supposed to deal with it all? I forgive him.”
WTF??????!!!???!?"
LK asking if he forgave Smythe was a trapping question. And when she went on to discuss with her panel, it was taken out of context. It was an irrelevant question that he answered well. |
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"What a complete waste of space he is.
“It was all too much. How was I supposed to deal with it all? I forgive him.”
WTF??????!!!???!?
LK asking if he forgave Smythe was a trapping question. And when she went on to discuss with her panel, it was taken out of context. It was an irrelevant question that he answered well."
I understand it was a trapping question. The answer should have been “No I don’t.”.
If you can forgive someone who abused 100+ children then what does it take for you to not forgive someone? If everything is forgivable then forgiveness becomes meaningless. |
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"What a complete waste of space he is.
“It was all too much. How was I supposed to deal with it all? I forgive him.”
WTF??????!!!???!?
LK asking if he forgave Smythe was a trapping question. And when she went on to discuss with her panel, it was taken out of context. It was an irrelevant question that he answered well."
It was a question that allowed him to now be a good Christian by showing forgiveness, deflection away from the cover up he was part of ..
If his Christian values had any foundation he would have done the right things when he took over from Carey who is also guilty..
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"What a complete waste of space he is.
“It was all too much. How was I supposed to deal with it all? I forgive him.”
WTF??????!!!???!?
LK asking if he forgave Smythe was a trapping question. And when she went on to discuss with her panel, it was taken out of context. It was an irrelevant question that he answered well.
I understand it was a trapping question. The answer should have been “No I don’t.”.
If you can forgive someone who abused 100+ children then what does it take for you to not forgive someone? If everything is forgivable then forgiveness becomes meaningless."
He will see it as his duty to promote forgiveness as a tenet. He should not have said yes or no but made the statement he did.
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"What a complete waste of space he is.
“It was all too much. How was I supposed to deal with it all? I forgive him.”
WTF??????!!!???!?
LK asking if he forgave Smythe was a trapping question. And when she went on to discuss with her panel, it was taken out of context. It was an irrelevant question that he answered well.
I understand it was a trapping question. The answer should have been “No I don’t.”.
If you can forgive someone who abused 100+ children then what does it take for you to not forgive someone? If everything is forgivable then forgiveness becomes meaningless.
He will see it as his duty to promote forgiveness as a tenet. He should not have said yes or no but made the statement he did.
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Standard procedure is just to forgive everything? Can’t work out why no one outside the church has any respect for him. Or the church. |
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"What a complete waste of space he is.
“It was all too much. How was I supposed to deal with it all? I forgive him.”
WTF??????!!!???!?
LK asking if he forgave Smythe was a trapping question. And when she went on to discuss with her panel, it was taken out of context. It was an irrelevant question that he answered well.
I understand it was a trapping question. The answer should have been “No I don’t.”.
If you can forgive someone who abused 100+ children then what does it take for you to not forgive someone? If everything is forgivable then forgiveness becomes meaningless.
He will see it as his duty to promote forgiveness as a tenet. He should not have said yes or no but made the statement he did.
Standard procedure is just to forgive everything? Can’t work out why no one outside the church has any respect for him. Or the church."
The Bible emphasizes forgiveness as a core principle, both as God's action towards humanity and as a requirement for Christians to forgive others, as seen in passages like Matthew 6:12 and Colossians 3:13.
A quick Google is easier to paste than recall lessons.
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"What a complete waste of space he is.
“It was all too much. How was I supposed to deal with it all? I forgive him.”
WTF??????!!!???!?
LK asking if he forgave Smythe was a trapping question. And when she went on to discuss with her panel, it was taken out of context. It was an irrelevant question that he answered well.
I understand it was a trapping question. The answer should have been “No I don’t.”.
If you can forgive someone who abused 100+ children then what does it take for you to not forgive someone? If everything is forgivable then forgiveness becomes meaningless.
He will see it as his duty to promote forgiveness as a tenet. He should not have said yes or no but made the statement he did.
Standard procedure is just to forgive everything? Can’t work out why no one outside the church has any respect for him. Or the church.
The Bible emphasizes forgiveness as a core principle, both as God's action towards humanity and as a requirement for Christians to forgive others, as seen in passages like Matthew 6:12 and Colossians 3:13.
A quick Google is easier to paste than recall lessons.
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I agree the Bible emphasises forgiveness. Just not sure what relevance that has to the 100+ kids who were r*ped and abused?
Given that you can find anything in the bible I am curious to know why you don’t quote the bible passages that talk about failure of leadership?
Seeing as you are partial to Matthew then most of Matthew 23 is telling people to beware leaders who dont walk the talk. Or maybe Proverbs 12 is a timely reminder that leaders can be taken in by others and that doesn’t end well?
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We could argue till we are blue in the face but for me it comes down to this.
Would I allow my child to attend a weekend church camp, be it COE or Catholic.
Like fuck would I.
The one thing you can be sure, if something did happen, they'd all close ranks and scuttle down the sewers together. |
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"What a complete waste of space he is.
“It was all too much. How was I supposed to deal with it all? I forgive him.”
WTF??????!!!???!?
LK asking if he forgave Smythe was a trapping question. And when she went on to discuss with her panel, it was taken out of context. It was an irrelevant question that he answered well.
I understand it was a trapping question. The answer should have been “No I don’t.”.
If you can forgive someone who abused 100+ children then what does it take for you to not forgive someone? If everything is forgivable then forgiveness becomes meaningless.
He will see it as his duty to promote forgiveness as a tenet. He should not have said yes or no but made the statement he did.
Standard procedure is just to forgive everything? Can’t work out why no one outside the church has any respect for him. Or the church.
The Bible emphasizes forgiveness as a core principle, both as God's action towards humanity and as a requirement for Christians to forgive others, as seen in passages like Matthew 6:12 and Colossians 3:13.
A quick Google is easier to paste than recall lessons.
I agree the Bible emphasises forgiveness. Just not sure what relevance that has to the 100+ kids who were r*ped and abused?
Given that you can find anything in the bible I am curious to know why you don’t quote the bible passages that talk about failure of leadership?
Seeing as you are partial to Matthew then most of Matthew 23 is telling people to beware leaders who dont walk the talk. Or maybe Proverbs 12 is a timely reminder that leaders can be taken in by others and that doesn’t end well?
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You wanted to know about forgiveness so I explained the biblical and therefore christian and therefore archbishop contexts.
As for the victims, I can only hope they benefit from counselling and love their inner child as they become adults. I wish them peace. |
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"We could argue till we are blue in the face but for me it comes down to this.
Would I allow my child to attend a weekend church camp, be it COE or Catholic.
Like fuck would I.
The one thing you can be sure, if something did happen, they'd all close ranks and scuttle down the sewers together."
It could happen on a weekend trip with aunty Jane and uncle Tom, or the grandparents and any of those you would not suspect. |
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"We could argue till we are blue in the face but for me it comes down to this.
Would I allow my child to attend a weekend church camp, be it COE or Catholic.
Like fuck would I.
The one thing you can be sure, if something did happen, they'd all close ranks and scuttle down the sewers together.
It could happen on a weekend trip with aunty Jane and uncle Tom, or the grandparents and any of those you would not suspect."
Think I know which group I would choose.
I'll stick with trusted family members and I'll leave you to nip away with pervy priests or some church volunteers, especially those really strange ones who look like their mums wash and dress them and make you shudder when they are close by.
Have a great weekend away.
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"We could argue till we are blue in the face but for me it comes down to this.
Would I allow my child to attend a weekend church camp, be it COE or Catholic.
Like fuck would I.
The one thing you can be sure, if something did happen, they'd all close ranks and scuttle down the sewers together.
It could happen on a weekend trip with aunty Jane and uncle Tom, or the grandparents and any of those you would not suspect.
Think I know which group I would choose.
I'll stick with trusted family members and I'll leave you to nip away with pervy priests or some church volunteers, especially those really strange ones who look like their mums wash and dress them and make you shudder when they are close by.
Have a great weekend away.
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I used to help run an !nce$t survivors group. Common theme that the most dangerous perps are those you trust and don't look a certain way.
Btw I don't go to church. |
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"We could argue till we are blue in the face but for me it comes down to this.
Would I allow my child to attend a weekend church camp, be it COE or Catholic.
Like fuck would I.
The one thing you can be sure, if something did happen, they'd all close ranks and scuttle down the sewers together.
It could happen on a weekend trip with aunty Jane and uncle Tom, or the grandparents and any of those you would not suspect.
Think I know which group I would choose.
I'll stick with trusted family members and I'll leave you to nip away with pervy priests or some church volunteers, especially those really strange ones who look like their mums wash and dress them and make you shudder when they are close by.
Have a great weekend away.
I used to help run an !nce$t survivors group. Common theme that the most dangerous perps are those you trust and don't look a certain way.
Btw I don't go to church."
Like I said, I'll stick to family members.
At least they haven't got previous offending and previous covering up any offending.
I still go to church but only for weddings etc.
Found so many funerals are now not church based.
Our neighbour sadly passed away, his wife saw him in hospital when he passed away and then collected his ashes, no funeral, no nothing.
As he was a keen sailor were all invited to scatter his ashes on the beach and then of to the pub for food and drinks.
It was a happy afternoon, filled with laughter, reminiscing, funny anecdotes and kind words from friends.
A long way from the gloomy church funerals with words from someone who had never met them and on one occasion used the wrong name.
But, each to his or her own.
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"The one thing you can be sure, if something did happen, they'd all close ranks and scuttle down the sewers together.
So no different to the BBC, Parliament or the armed forces then? "
Like I said, most institutions will do anything to save themselves.
Would I lie, cheat and blame others for my wrongdoings.
Yes, probably. But, like everyone else, I'm a hypocrite, but not as bad as some.
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Technically they should redo Charles coronation as Welby wasn't a valid AB, he was a Bash the Bishop.
What a right royal mess.
Even Beelzebub is hold his head in dismay.
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"A very talented individual who has worked extremely hard to forward the activities of the church.
Everyone can make the right decisions with the benefit of hindsight. You would normally need hard evidence before reporting such matters. You can hardly report an issue simply because you think something might have happened.
If we seek to address blame culture and want to hold people accountable a wide variety of issues would have to be be examined. What background were the child's parents from. ? Did they have any issues? What about schooling and how did the situation arise where an individual was in contact with a priest by themselves. Were social services involved in a child's welfare
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It is hardly a simple issue. Archbishop Welby had a very successfull career in a top rated plc prior to joining the Church. We should respect him for admitting that mistakes were made . Anyone can make the right decision with the benefit of hindsight "
Are you for real? If you suspect this is happening report it. Let the authorities investigate. I would rather be wrong and embarrassed than the alternative!
What difference does it make what the parents background is, if the child/family are open to social services, what schooling the child has.
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