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I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.
Has your opinion of him changed at all recently? |
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Anything that gets the economy off the front pages is good news for Labour.
The most damaging aspects of Reeves’ budget are yet to kick in.
The Ukraine situation isn’t going to make anyone in the UK better off. If it has any economic or fiscal impact at all it is going to make things worse.
I’m sure Britain “standing up to dictators” kindles some deep historic psychological recollection for people in the UK. We love being reminded of “our finest hour” and better times.
But it’s not going to pay the bills. And the economy will soon be back in the headlines. |
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By *ornLordMan 2 days ago
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The meeting with Trump, well the offer of a state visit, was a misjudgment but I'm more impressed that he has met Zelenskyy, with a royal meeting, so soon after the ambush by the SpunkTrumpet and that evil little puddle of ejaculate Vance.
However, Starmer is soon going to have to tell Reeves that those red lines of hers can no longer apply... |
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I was thinking the same thing tonight OP.
The fact that he stepped straight into the hole that Trump and Vance left by bashing Zelensky is interesting . Offering the meeting with the King tomorrow is a power move given he only handed the letter to Trump a couple of days ago - I read that as him saying “Fuck you”. I think that what you are seeing here. along with the summit tomorrow, is the first steps away from a US orientated foreign policy to a more autonomous one.
I think the outcome of this summit (and the following) French one could be pivotal and it looks like Starmer could be going for it. |
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By *oo hotCouple 2 days ago
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My perspective is that the noise from government has reduced since last summer and that he to be a good thing in its own right. I think Starmer is OK, he is not embarrassing us on the world stage (far from it) and he is just getting on with government stuff. Personally I don’t want to feel triggered every few days by new radical policies - I just want things to to be steadfast and stable. |
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"The meeting with Trump, well the offer of a state visit, was a misjudgment but I'm more impressed that he has met Zelenskyy, with a royal meeting, so soon after the ambush by the SpunkTrumpet and that evil little puddle of ejaculate Vance.
However, Starmer is soon going to have to tell Reeves that those red lines of hers can no longer apply... "
Yes, the economy is the big one. Either Reeves changes course or she is changes. |
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By *otMe66Man 1 day ago
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"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.
Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?"
There is a huge difference between a diplomat and a leader, ask Zelensky  |
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Depends what you think he should be aspiring to? Another Trump? Vance? Putin? Erdogan? I think the world has enough macho leaders right now, and a 'cool head' is most welcome. In the circumstances, we might be lucky to have him. |
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Depends what you think he should be aspiring to? Another Trump? Vance? Putin? Erdogan? I think the world has enough macho leaders right now, and a 'cool head' is most welcome. In the circumstances, we might just be extremely lucky to have him. |
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I don’t think he’s getting better. Both domestic and foreign policies are driven by ideological dogma not by reality.
Chagos islands - complete madness to give them to Mauritius based on some advisory ruling by a non binding court.
Trade deal with the US. If it happens it will certainly not be in our favour. There will be something in there we have rejected before, maybe with the Labour obsession with destroying our farmers it will be relaxing food standards.
And domestically, pensioners, farmers, taxes, net zero etc. All making us poorer and destroying our green spaces.
He is also a liar, fiddling with numbers in the worst way possible. For example the 18bn defence increase is nothing of the sort and it isn’t clear whether it includes the payments to Mauritius. |
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Latest UK “loan” to Ukraine yesterday: £2.2 billion
Savings from scrapping Winter Fuel Allowance £2 billion.
If only the “hashtag Stand with Ukraine” posturing was free of charge.
The US seems to be very happy with the UK stepping in. Zelensky has ceased to be a US problem and has become a UK problem.
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He’s starting to look like a leader into standing upto to international aggression but domestically hasn’t improved things at all from the last 14 years. Few of his pledges seem to be happening at all but it can be hard to decipher the true impact due to left/right spin the polarisation that exists now. There is no middle ground of reasoning or nuance/context in a lot of discourse, social media hasn’t helped I don’t think. |
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He’s going through the doing ‘quite badly at home so look tough abroad’ phase.
I honestly think foreign policy is the only thing that can stop Labour being ousted at the next general election.
Without foreign policy successes, I could easily see them going the way of the SPD in Germany last week. Labour’s majority maybe a mile wide but it’s only an inch deep & remember they only enjoy unopposed power under our ridiculous electoral system which both the Lab & Con parties love so much because it enables this on a minority of votes.
You’d think Labour, being a ‘progressive’ party would see this clear injustice & right the wrong. But they aren’t interested. Wonder why. |
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"Anything that gets the economy off the front pages is good news for Labour.
The most damaging aspects of Reeves’ budget are yet to kick in.
The Ukraine situation isn’t going to make anyone in the UK better off. If it has any economic or fiscal impact at all it is going to make things worse.
I’m sure Britain “standing up to dictators” kindles some deep historic psychological recollection for people in the UK. We love being reminded of “our finest hour” and better times.
But it’s not going to pay the bills. And the economy will soon be back in the headlines. "
Not unless we put more in to Ukraine in the short term for a % of the minerals that could wipe out the national Debt and put the UK in a strong position. Then it's about where the cash comes from in the short term and if any other country wants in out side of the US |
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"Are people really going to judge the government on how Starmer supports Zelensky over Trump?
There is short sighted and this..."
I see the support as no different to how the tories got support during covid, or at least the first two waves and ppe scandal aside. |
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By *otMe66Man 1 day ago
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"Are people really going to judge the government on how Starmer supports Zelensky over Trump?
There is short sighted and this...
I see the support as no different to how the tories got support during covid, or at least the first two waves and ppe scandal aside."
The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary. |
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The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary."
Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands. |
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"Not unless we put more in to Ukraine in the short term for a % of the minerals that could wipe out the national Debt and put the UK in a strong position."
Ukraine doesn't have any valuable minerals. It has about the same level of rare earths as anywhere else on the planet. |
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By *otMe66Man 1 day ago
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The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.
Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands. "
That was a different set of circumstances though.
Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.
The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.
So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day. |
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The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.
Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.
That was a different set of circumstances though.
Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.
The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.
So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day. "
I agree with you and ok, the televised Oval Office meeting was a bit of a car crash but I actually think Trump’s plan from what we know is much better than what Biden was enabling ie an incessant war.
1. The US recoups it’s financial outlay
2. US workers mining in Ukraine deter further Russian aggression
3. All the killing stops.
Sounds ok to me  |
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By *otMe66Man 1 day ago
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The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.
Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.
That was a different set of circumstances though.
Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.
The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.
So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.
I agree with you and ok, the televised Oval Office meeting was a bit of a car crash but I actually think Trump’s plan from what we know is much better than what Biden was enabling ie an incessant war.
1. The US recoups it’s financial outlay
2. US workers mining in Ukraine deter further Russian aggression
3. All the killing stops.
Sounds ok to me "
Trump has a plan, Europe doesn't beyond throwing sacrificial money at Ukraine. |
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Till there's a peace plan and the only one Putin will listen to at the moment is trump, then Europe has to continue the support both militarily and sanctions..
Any lessening of such support would only lead to Russia continuing it's war and stalling talks.. |
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"What actually is the Starmer/European plan?
They don’t seem to have one beyond going to conferences and tweeting stuff."
It might so cunning a plan that they sort of don't want to put it on social media for everyone to see ..
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"Not unless we put more in to Ukraine in the short term for a % of the minerals that could wipe out the national Debt and put the UK in a strong position.
Ukraine doesn't have any valuable minerals. It has about the same level of rare earths as anywhere else on the planet."
Realy where is the UK’S gold mine. 🤔 don't think there is much in the way of mining hear anymore even the gypsum mine is low on deposits. |
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The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.
Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.
That was a different set of circumstances though.
Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.
The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.
So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day. "
So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war. |
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"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.
Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?"
Perhaps rather than somewhat arrogantly suggesting Sir Keir (not Kier as you write) is growing into the job, I might arrogantly suggest perhaps it is you who is growing your understanding about what the role involves?
Yes a nasty comment about you, but many of us always felt Starmer would make the best PM of the choices available. Welcome to our world! |
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By *otMe66Man 1 day ago
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The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.
Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.
That was a different set of circumstances though.
Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.
The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.
So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.
So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war. "
That is a different proposition to what is happening now or expected, so I would expect a different outcome.
It would be a good start to get a plan for now as a priority. |
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The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.
Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.
That was a different set of circumstances though.
Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.
The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.
So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.
So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war. "
I’m sure fights break out all over the UK every Saturday night but I don’t feel it’s my responsibility to get involved in all of them. |
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The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.
Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.
That was a different set of circumstances though.
Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.
The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.
So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.
So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war.
That is a different proposition to what is happening now or expected, so I would expect a different outcome.
It would be a good start to get a plan for now as a priority. "
Sow you think Putin will stick to the agreement with Trump even if the USA don't want anything to do with it.
I see it more as USA confirming Europe is now on its own with Russia. And what happens will happen.
But I guess as individuals there is not much we can do but watch from the side line. |
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The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.
Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.
That was a different set of circumstances though.
Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.
The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.
So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.
So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war.
I’m sure fights break out all over the UK every Saturday night but I don’t feel it’s my responsibility to get involved in all of them."
So your happy to get involved in some of them. |
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The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.
Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.
That was a different set of circumstances though.
Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.
The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.
So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.
So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war.
I’m sure fights break out all over the UK every Saturday night but I don’t feel it’s my responsibility to get involved in all of them.
So your happy to get involved in some of them. "
Maybe if my next door neighbour was fighting in my garden I’d go and see what was happening and see if I could de-escalate the situation.
But I wouldn’t particularly bother travelling to Aberdeen to get involved. |
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The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.
Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.
That was a different set of circumstances though.
Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.
The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.
So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.
So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war.
I’m sure fights break out all over the UK every Saturday night but I don’t feel it’s my responsibility to get involved in all of them.
So your happy to get involved in some of them.
Maybe if my next door neighbour was fighting in my garden I’d go and see what was happening and see if I could de-escalate the situation.
But I wouldn’t particularly bother travelling to Aberdeen to get involved."
Ukraine did not travel to Russia what would you do if the fight in you garden broke you front window. |
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The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.
Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.
That was a different set of circumstances though.
Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.
The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.
So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.
So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war.
I’m sure fights break out all over the UK every Saturday night but I don’t feel it’s my responsibility to get involved in all of them.
So your happy to get involved in some of them.
Maybe if my next door neighbour was fighting in my garden I’d go and see what was happening and see if I could de-escalate the situation.
But I wouldn’t particularly bother travelling to Aberdeen to get involved.
Ukraine did not travel to Russia what would you do if the fight in you garden broke you front window."
I’d probably get all my mates to come round and then the guy who broke the window could get his mates to come around and we could have a big fight until a few people are dead over a broken window. |
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The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.
Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.
That was a different set of circumstances though.
Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.
The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.
So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.
So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war.
I’m sure fights break out all over the UK every Saturday night but I don’t feel it’s my responsibility to get involved in all of them.
So your happy to get involved in some of them.
Maybe if my next door neighbour was fighting in my garden I’d go and see what was happening and see if I could de-escalate the situation.
But I wouldn’t particularly bother travelling to Aberdeen to get involved.
Ukraine did not travel to Russia what would you do if the fight in you garden broke you front window.
I’d probably get all my mates to come round and then the guy who broke the window could get his mates to come around and we could have a big fight until a few people are dead over a broken window."
Well if Putins mate is Kim Jon un and Trump Europe is done for. |
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"Realy where is the UK’S gold mine."
"There are several of them, not least Cononish in Scotland, and Clogau in Wales."
"clogau shut almost 30 years ago"
And its owners have applied to re-open it, since there's still plenty of gold in there, and modern techniques make it easier to extract. |
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I don’t get this Starmer love? He got rinsed by Trump, made to look very weak indeed. Vance ruined him about free speech. Trump and Vance made it pretty clear what they feel about Starmer
The Zelenskyy thing is a massive bluff. Just a PR stunt with little substance. Basically, without the backing of the US, Europe will struggle to achieve anything. |
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"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.
Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?"
YES he is an even bigger butt kisser than he was before he conned all of us to vote for him to get into power so he can kiss and lick even more high powered arses,,  |
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"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.
Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?"
I think he has done ok with the difficult trump/ Ukraine situation. As our PM this is what I expect from him. We seem to have sunk so low that when the PM doesn't mess up, it's classed as a good day. Will he improve the situation in the UK or continue to allow our fake chancellor to drag the economy down, is more important in my view. |
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"Realy where is the UK’S gold mine.
There are several of them, not least Cononish in Scotland, and Clogau in Wales.
clogau shut almost 30 years ago
And its owners have applied to re-open it, since there's still plenty of gold in there, and modern techniques make it easier to extract."
to be honest Alba have been struggling to make it viable and suffered numerous setbacks, so i would be surprised if it's a goer really. even their regurging of the historic waste tip has yielded only 3.2g per ton and totals less than 50g so far. then there's the battle they're fighting with the dewatering of level 4.5 & level 5, the lack of pressure for the drilling rig at those levels, along with the access road that keeps being washed away.
NRW aren't looking favourable at granting the licence or even extending the exploration licence when it runs out.
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"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.
Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?
I think he has done ok with the difficult trump/ Ukraine situation. As our PM this is what I expect from him. We seem to have sunk so low that when the PM doesn't mess up, it's classed as a good day. Will he improve the situation in the UK or continue to allow our fake chancellor to drag the economy down, is more important in my view. "
i'm pretty sure that the export finance agreement being banded about today will itself show up as an increase in GDP .... then that finance is to be spent on weapons procurement from the likes of thales etc which will further increase GDP ..... thales subcontracts to the likes of denis feranti etc which will push GDP up again.
we'll see i guess
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"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.
Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?
I think he has done ok with the difficult trump/ Ukraine situation. As our PM this is what I expect from him. We seem to have sunk so low that when the PM doesn't mess up, it's classed as a good day. Will he improve the situation in the UK or continue to allow our fake chancellor to drag the economy down, is more important in my view.
i'm pretty sure that the export finance agreement being banded about today will itself show up as an increase in GDP .... then that finance is to be spent on weapons procurement from the likes of thales etc which will further increase GDP ..... thales subcontracts to the likes of denis feranti etc which will push GDP up again.
we'll see i guess
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That’s exactly why it is being structured in the way it is. Ukraine is buying weapons from a factory in Northen Ireland - GDP gets pushed up. |
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"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.
Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?
I think he has done ok with the difficult trump/ Ukraine situation. As our PM this is what I expect from him. We seem to have sunk so low that when the PM doesn't mess up, it's classed as a good day. Will he improve the situation in the UK or continue to allow our fake chancellor to drag the economy down, is more important in my view.
i'm pretty sure that the export finance agreement being banded about today will itself show up as an increase in GDP .... then that finance is to be spent on weapons procurement from the likes of thales etc which will further increase GDP ..... thales subcontracts to the likes of denis feranti etc which will push GDP up again.
we'll see i guess
That’s exactly why it is being structured in the way it is. Ukraine is buying weapons from a factory in Northen Ireland - GDP gets pushed up. "
We give Ukraine £2 bn in aid, they then use it to buy some weapons from the UK.
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No he's friends with everyone but the British people, he's even more friends with putin than the British people and supposedly hates putin.
He's only doing what he's supposed to do and he can't throw the people he's dealing with in jail if they oppose him.
He's verging on a dictator.
Blair mkII Americas lap dog. Once Blair started flying around the world he lost the British people he was happier doing world diplomacy and forgot his own country.
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