Farage is the only honest political leader we have here in the UK. He was a Tory, but left that party when John Major signed the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.
He has stuck to his guns, campaigning to take us out of the EU, ever since. He did retire, when BREXIT was supposed to have been done, but the preset day Tories just continually kicked it into the long grass.
Labour are consistently attempting to realign us with the EU, probably in readiness to rejoining.
So Nigel came out of retirement, not very long ago, and rejoined Reform UK as leader. They got a handful of MPs at the last election, which came too soon for them to make a big campaign. Now they are heading all of the opinion polls.
I predict that the UK will have a Reform UK government in 2028, hopefully a majority government. This country needs serious changes, because we are are really in the deep deep doo doo.
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"Farage is the only honest political leader we have here in the UK. He was a Tory, but left that party when John Major signed the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.
He has stuck to his guns, campaigning to take us out of the EU, ever since. He did retire, when BREXIT was supposed to have been done, but the preset day Tories just continually kicked it into the long grass.
Labour are consistently attempting to realign us with the EU, probably in readiness to rejoining.
So Nigel came out of retirement, not very long ago, and rejoined Reform UK as leader. They got a handful of MPs at the last election, which came too soon for them to make a big campaign. Now they are heading all of the opinion polls.
I predict that the UK will have a Reform UK government in 2028, hopefully a majority government. This country needs serious changes, because we are are really in the deep deep doo doo.
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By *ermbiMan 24 hours ago
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"Farage is the only honest political leader we have here in the UK. He was a Tory, but left that party when John Major signed the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.
He has stuck to his guns, campaigning to take us out of the EU, ever since. He did retire, when BREXIT was supposed to have been done, but the preset day Tories just continually kicked it into the long grass.
Labour are consistently attempting to realign us with the EU, probably in readiness to rejoining.
So Nigel came out of retirement, not very long ago, and rejoined Reform UK as leader. They got a handful of MPs at the last election, which came too soon for them to make a big campaign. Now they are heading all of the opinion polls.
I predict that the UK will have a Reform UK government in 2028, hopefully a majority government. This country needs serious changes, because we are are really in the deep deep doo doo.
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Farage is all about the sound bites. Couldn't take him seriously on anything. Let's hope Reform just withers away. He didn't understand the impact of Brexit on N Ireland |
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"So muck left wing bitterness. Your boy is going to be dust in the next election, As for the Tories, WHO?
It’s going to be ours, you just need to accept that, right? Jolly good."
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"So muck left wing bitterness. Your boy is going to be dust in the next election, As for the Tories, WHO?
It’s going to be ours, you just need to accept that, right? Jolly good."
Oh no it's not..
Although your a bit late for the panto season.. |
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"So muck left wing bitterness. Your boy is going to be dust in the next election, As for the Tories, WHO?
It’s going to be ours, you just need to accept that, right? Jolly good.
Oh no it's not..
Although your a bit late for the panto season.. "
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"So muck left wing bitterness. Your boy is going to be dust in the next election, As for the Tories, WHO?
It’s going to be ours, you just need to accept that, right? Jolly good.
Oh no it's not..
Although your a bit late for the panto season..
That’s a shame, he’s behind you!"
Not in front then.. |
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"Farage is the only honest political leader we have here in the UK. He was a Tory, but left that party when John Major signed the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.
He has stuck to his guns, campaigning to take us out of the EU, ever since. He did retire, when BREXIT was supposed to have been done, but the preset day Tories just continually kicked it into the long grass.
Labour are consistently attempting to realign us with the EU, probably in readiness to rejoining.
So Nigel came out of retirement, not very long ago, and rejoined Reform UK as leader. They got a handful of MPs at the last election, which came too soon for them to make a big campaign. Now they are heading all of the opinion polls.
I predict that the UK will have a Reform UK government in 2028, hopefully a majority government. This country needs serious changes, because we are are really in the deep deep doo doo.
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So the most honest politician we have in the UK is a man who is Farage, who was a MEP for 18 years, has one of the worst attendance records at the parliament in Brussels and Strasbourg. He is ranked 748 out of 751 MEPs and has taken part in only 37% of votes.
Also was docked half his monthly MEP salary after a European parliament investigation alleged he had misspent public funds intended for staffing his office.
All the while vilifying people for being lazy scroungers screwing the benefit system and willing to work.
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By *otMe66Man 18 hours ago
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"Farage is the only honest political leader we have here in the UK. He was a Tory, but left that party when John Major signed the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.
He has stuck to his guns, campaigning to take us out of the EU, ever since. He did retire, when BREXIT was supposed to have been done, but the preset day Tories just continually kicked it into the long grass.
Labour are consistently attempting to realign us with the EU, probably in readiness to rejoining.
So Nigel came out of retirement, not very long ago, and rejoined Reform UK as leader. They got a handful of MPs at the last election, which came too soon for them to make a big campaign. Now they are heading all of the opinion polls.
I predict that the UK will have a Reform UK government in 2028, hopefully a majority government. This country needs serious changes, because we are are really in the deep deep doo doo.
So the most honest politician we have in the UK is a man who is Farage, who was a MEP for 18 years, has one of the worst attendance records at the parliament in Brussels and Strasbourg. He is ranked 748 out of 751 MEPs and has taken part in only 37% of votes.
Also was docked half his monthly MEP salary after a European parliament investigation alleged he had misspent public funds intended for staffing his office.
All the while vilifying people for being lazy scroungers screwing the benefit system and willing to work.
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The "E" was a problem he worked to remove |
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"Farage is the only honest political leader we have here in the UK. He was a Tory, but left that party when John Major signed the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.
He has stuck to his guns, campaigning to take us out of the EU, ever since. He did retire, when BREXIT was supposed to have been done, but the preset day Tories just continually kicked it into the long grass.
Labour are consistently attempting to realign us with the EU, probably in readiness to rejoining.
So Nigel came out of retirement, not very long ago, and rejoined Reform UK as leader. They got a handful of MPs at the last election, which came too soon for them to make a big campaign. Now they are heading all of the opinion polls.
I predict that the UK will have a Reform UK government in 2028, hopefully a majority government. This country needs serious changes, because we are are really in the deep deep doo doo.
So the most honest politician we have in the UK is a man who is Farage, who was a MEP for 18 years, has one of the worst attendance records at the parliament in Brussels and Strasbourg. He is ranked 748 out of 751 MEPs and has taken part in only 37% of votes.
Also was docked half his monthly MEP salary after a European parliament investigation alleged he had misspent public funds intended for staffing his office.
All the while vilifying people for being lazy scroungers screwing the benefit system and willing to work.
The "E" was a problem he worked to remove"
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By *otMe66Man 17 hours ago
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"Farage is the only honest political leader we have here in the UK. He was a Tory, but left that party when John Major signed the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.
He has stuck to his guns, campaigning to take us out of the EU, ever since. He did retire, when BREXIT was supposed to have been done, but the preset day Tories just continually kicked it into the long grass.
Labour are consistently attempting to realign us with the EU, probably in readiness to rejoining.
So Nigel came out of retirement, not very long ago, and rejoined Reform UK as leader. They got a handful of MPs at the last election, which came too soon for them to make a big campaign. Now they are heading all of the opinion polls.
I predict that the UK will have a Reform UK government in 2028, hopefully a majority government. This country needs serious changes, because we are are really in the deep deep doo doo.
So the most honest politician we have in the UK is a man who is Farage, who was a MEP for 18 years, has one of the worst attendance records at the parliament in Brussels and Strasbourg. He is ranked 748 out of 751 MEPs and has taken part in only 37% of votes.
Also was docked half his monthly MEP salary after a European parliament investigation alleged he had misspent public funds intended for staffing his office.
All the while vilifying people for being lazy scroungers screwing the benefit system and willing to work.
The "E" was a problem he worked to remove
I still don't see any honesty.."
You might not if you are dead set against his ideals. However it doesn't mean he isn't because what he says does not align with your views. |
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I still don't see any honesty..
You might not if you are dead set against his ideals. However it doesn't mean he isn't because what he says does not align with your views. "
The guy is a cunt. My opinion, yes, not without reason though, but I do respect what he is and he's looking out for no.1 so...
Factually; his professional career is in trading, an economist! So will be more educated than any fucker on this forum in political matters (especially people like me), that's for sure. Was born with a silver spoon, education at some of the best public schools money can buy in the UK. However consistent in that he's only worked for foreign banks somehow makes out that the UK needs to be xenophobic to anything "non British" to succeed, yet is contradicting in that he's made his millions from speculation in none UK commodity.
It's not alignment, it's just he just doesn't differ from all the other rich twats telling people they can't do something. |
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I still don't see any honesty..
You might not if you are dead set against his ideals. However it doesn't mean he isn't because what he says does not align with your views.
The guy is a cunt. My opinion, yes, not without reason though, but I do respect what he is and he's looking out for no.1 so...
Factually; his professional career is in trading, an economist! So will be more educated than any fucker on this forum in political matters (especially people like me), that's for sure. Was born with a silver spoon, education at some of the best public schools money can buy in the UK. However consistent in that he's only worked for foreign banks somehow makes out that the UK needs to be xenophobic to anything "non British" to succeed, yet is contradicting in that he's made his millions from speculation in none UK commodity.
It's not alignment, it's just he just doesn't differ from all the other rich twats telling people they can't do something."
Indeed. I find it ridiculously easy to "see through" NF's "facade".
Unfortunately, others do not, or choose not to even if they do because they feel his views align with theirs. That is, after all part of the charade. The job of a politician is to get people to agree with you and support you. The job is not to help others. The civil service do that bidding/work.
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By *otMe66Man 16 hours ago
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I still don't see any honesty..
You might not if you are dead set against his ideals. However it doesn't mean he isn't because what he says does not align with your views.
The guy is a cunt. My opinion, yes, not without reason though, but I do respect what he is and he's looking out for no.1 so...
Factually; his professional career is in trading, an economist! So will be more educated than any fucker on this forum in political matters (especially people like me), that's for sure. Was born with a silver spoon, education at some of the best public schools money can buy in the UK. However consistent in that he's only worked for foreign banks somehow makes out that the UK needs to be xenophobic to anything "non British" to succeed, yet is contradicting in that he's made his millions from speculation in none UK commodity.
It's not alignment, it's just he just doesn't differ from all the other rich twats telling people they can't do something."
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"So muck left wing bitterness. Your boy is going to be dust in the next election, As for the Tories, WHO?
It’s going to be ours, you just need to accept that, right? Jolly good.
Oh no it's not..
Although your a bit late for the panto season..
That’s a shame, he’s behind you!
Not in front then.. "
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"the established political parties are not delivering for ordinary people hence the rise of Trump , Le Penn & AFD . it remains to be seen if they can deliver when in power "
It remains to be seen if they get anywhere near power |
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By *hirleyMan 9 hours ago
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I still don't see any honesty..
You might not if you are dead set against his ideals. However it doesn't mean he isn't because what he says does not align with your views.
The guy is a cunt. My opinion, yes, not without reason though, but I do respect what he is and he's looking out for no.1 so...
Factually; his professional career is in trading, an economist! So will be more educated than any fucker on this forum in political matters (especially people like me), that's for sure. Was born with a silver spoon, education at some of the best public schools money can buy in the UK. However consistent in that he's only worked for foreign banks somehow makes out that the UK needs to be xenophobic to anything "non British" to succeed, yet is contradicting in that he's made his millions from speculation in none UK commodity.
It's not alignment, it's just he just doesn't differ from all the other rich twats telling people they can't do something.
Fair enough, you seem to have based your opinion on you perceived or learned experiences, which is more than just diatribe"
People need a "leader" and to believe in something, without hope it sends the mind wild. Farage feeds into that hope, hope there's a way out. In reality he's not ever going to help anyone but himself and his rich friends, just like all the other Eton etc. boys and girls before him. |
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Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
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By *9alMan 9 hours ago
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
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exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice |
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice "
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result. |
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It's been very difficult to get detailed workable plans out of them, for how they'd actually govern all of the country. Unlike the masses of hot air, which don't leave us with credible plans. For the few not the many, is all I can assume. |
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice "
Because the maga hardliners have instilled a degree of fear and oppression over many moderate republicans, at all levels of the elected, some voters have gone democrat and others have stayed away..
The actions of this administration will either isolate the hardliners or the country is on a backwards path which I think the majority won't want..
Populism never really lasts over pragmatism long term..
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result."
. It looks like you might need to take a more factual approach. AFD came second in the election. Farage has battled in politics for twenty five years. As a driving force behind the referendum he can be considered one of the most successfull politicians of recent times . His actions gave the electorate choices and they voted accordingly |
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By *otMe66Man 7 hours ago
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Farage is a successful individual who has significantly influenced the UK’s laws and trade without ever being in power.
You don't need to agree with his ideals to recognise his strengths...
The 2 main parties are changing their stance on policies that matter to Reform voters, so again he is already changing the UK without being in power.
The demographic of Reform voters seems to be something that is fair game for criticism... often called out for being poorly educated or easily led. Isn't it strange how they are the ones reshaping the political landscape at the moment |
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result. . It looks like you might need to take a more factual approach. AFD came second in the election. Farage has battled in politics for twenty five years. As a driving force behind the referendum he can be considered one of the most successfull politicians of recent times . His actions gave the electorate choices and they voted accordingly "
Labour are criticised for not having a plan, can anyone tell me what Reforms plans are, that won’t be ripped apart by the likes of the OBR etc ? |
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Because the maga hardliners have instilled a degree of fear and oppression over many moderate republicans, at all levels of the elected, some voters have gone democrat and others have stayed away..
The actions of this administration will either isolate the hardliners or the country is on a backwards path which I think the majority won't want..
Populism never really lasts over pragmatism long term..
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Who are these “pragmatists”?
Biden? Starmer? Trudeau?
Ukraine kicked off under Biden
US national debt $36 trillion (Biden)
Millions of unvetted aliens wandering the streets (Biden)
Locking up political opponents (Biden)
Presidential pardons for his family back to 2014, the year of Maidan (Biden)
The same could be said of all the Western “liberals” and “centrists”.
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By *otMe66Man 7 hours ago
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result. . It looks like you might need to take a more factual approach. AFD came second in the election. Farage has battled in politics for twenty five years. As a driving force behind the referendum he can be considered one of the most successfull politicians of recent times . His actions gave the electorate choices and they voted accordingly
Labour are criticised for not having a plan, can anyone tell me what Reforms plans are, that won’t be ripped apart by the likes of the OBR etc ?"
Disruption, it is that simple and Farage knows how. |
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result. . It looks like you might need to take a more factual approach. AFD came second in the election. Farage has battled in politics for twenty five years. As a driving force behind the referendum he can be considered one of the most successfull politicians of recent times . His actions gave the electorate choices and they voted accordingly
Labour are criticised for not having a plan, can anyone tell me what Reforms plans are, that won’t be ripped apart by the likes of the OBR etc ?
Disruption, it is that simple and Farage knows how."
How does disruption work when they are in government and they have to actually have workable policies. |
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By *otMe66Man 6 hours ago
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result. . It looks like you might need to take a more factual approach. AFD came second in the election. Farage has battled in politics for twenty five years. As a driving force behind the referendum he can be considered one of the most successfull politicians of recent times . His actions gave the electorate choices and they voted accordingly
Labour are criticised for not having a plan, can anyone tell me what Reforms plans are, that won’t be ripped apart by the likes of the OBR etc ?
Disruption, it is that simple and Farage knows how.
How does disruption work when they are in government and they have to actually have workable policies."
Do you think they are going to make a government in the next 10 years? If you do then Nigel is doing a cracking job of disrupting already |
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result. . It looks like you might need to take a more factual approach. AFD came second in the election. Farage has battled in politics for twenty five years. As a driving force behind the referendum he can be considered one of the most successfull politicians of recent times . His actions gave the electorate choices and they voted accordingly
Labour are criticised for not having a plan, can anyone tell me what Reforms plans are, that won’t be ripped apart by the likes of the OBR etc ?
Disruption, it is that simple and Farage knows how.
How does disruption work when they are in government and they have to actually have workable policies.
Do you think they are going to make a government in the next 10 years? If you do then Nigel is doing a cracking job of disrupting already "
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Because the maga hardliners have instilled a degree of fear and oppression over many moderate republicans, at all levels of the elected, some voters have gone democrat and others have stayed away..
The actions of this administration will either isolate the hardliners or the country is on a backwards path which I think the majority won't want..
Populism never really lasts over pragmatism long term..
Who are these “pragmatists”?
Biden? Starmer? Trudeau?
Ukraine kicked off under Biden
US national debt $36 trillion (Biden)
Millions of unvetted aliens wandering the streets (Biden)
Locking up political opponents (Biden)
Presidential pardons for his family back to 2014, the year of Maidan (Biden)
The same could be said of all the Western “liberals” and “centrists”.
But sure Trump and Farage are the problem."
Little green men.. 
Where?
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By *otMe66Man 6 hours ago
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result. . It looks like you might need to take a more factual approach. AFD came second in the election. Farage has battled in politics for twenty five years. As a driving force behind the referendum he can be considered one of the most successfull politicians of recent times . His actions gave the electorate choices and they voted accordingly
Labour are criticised for not having a plan, can anyone tell me what Reforms plans are, that won’t be ripped apart by the likes of the OBR etc ?
Disruption, it is that simple and Farage knows how.
How does disruption work when they are in government and they have to actually have workable policies.
Do you think they are going to make a government in the next 10 years? If you do then Nigel is doing a cracking job of disrupting already
No I turned down that offer of magic beans "
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result. . It looks like you might need to take a more factual approach. AFD came second in the election. Farage has battled in politics for twenty five years. As a driving force behind the referendum he can be considered one of the most successfull politicians of recent times . His actions gave the electorate choices and they voted accordingly
Labour are criticised for not having a plan, can anyone tell me what Reforms plans are, that won’t be ripped apart by the likes of the OBR etc ?
Disruption, it is that simple and Farage knows how.
How does disruption work when they are in government and they have to actually have workable policies.
Do you think they are going to make a government in the next 10 years? If you do then Nigel is doing a cracking job of disrupting already
No I turned down that offer of magic beans
The labour party and conservatives will be challenged by Farage, he is already doing that and making a difference. He is smart enough to know his strength is in the possibility of taking voters away from the main parties and using that to influence."
Which will in all likelihood leave the Tories worse off, a greater impact upon their voters than it will labour..
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Because the maga hardliners have instilled a degree of fear and oppression over many moderate republicans, at all levels of the elected, some voters have gone democrat and others have stayed away..
The actions of this administration will either isolate the hardliners or the country is on a backwards path which I think the majority won't want..
Populism never really lasts over pragmatism long term..
Who are these “pragmatists”?
Biden? Starmer? Trudeau?
Ukraine kicked off under Biden
US national debt $36 trillion (Biden)
Millions of unvetted aliens wandering the streets (Biden)
Locking up political opponents (Biden)
Presidential pardons for his family back to 2014, the year of Maidan (Biden)
The same could be said of all the Western “liberals” and “centrists”.
But sure Trump and Farage are the problem."
The problem is the use of the judiciary and the ruling party whomever that is to subvert the constitution as we are seeing now under trump which as you've alleged is just another round of tit for tat..
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By *otMe66Man 5 hours ago
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result. . It looks like you might need to take a more factual approach. AFD came second in the election. Farage has battled in politics for twenty five years. As a driving force behind the referendum he can be considered one of the most successfull politicians of recent times . His actions gave the electorate choices and they voted accordingly
Labour are criticised for not having a plan, can anyone tell me what Reforms plans are, that won’t be ripped apart by the likes of the OBR etc ?
Disruption, it is that simple and Farage knows how.
How does disruption work when they are in government and they have to actually have workable policies.
Do you think they are going to make a government in the next 10 years? If you do then Nigel is doing a cracking job of disrupting already
No I turned down that offer of magic beans
The labour party and conservatives will be challenged by Farage, he is already doing that and making a difference. He is smart enough to know his strength is in the possibility of taking voters away from the main parties and using that to influence.
Which will in all likelihood leave the Tories worse off, a greater impact upon their voters than it will labour..
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It is in the interests of both parties to look at the driving force behind the Reform party and actually start addressing the fundamental issues that voters are unhappy with.
In my opinion we need to start realising some Brexit benefits and turning around the hesitancy in decision making that has blighted Europe over the last 20 years. Whichever one of the 2 main parties picks that up will have a huge advantage, and that will disrupt the disruptor. |
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result. . It looks like you might need to take a more factual approach. AFD came second in the election. Farage has battled in politics for twenty five years. As a driving force behind the referendum he can be considered one of the most successfull politicians of recent times . His actions gave the electorate choices and they voted accordingly
Labour are criticised for not having a plan, can anyone tell me what Reforms plans are, that won’t be ripped apart by the likes of the OBR etc ?
Disruption, it is that simple and Farage knows how.
How does disruption work when they are in government and they have to actually have workable policies.
Do you think they are going to make a government in the next 10 years? If you do then Nigel is doing a cracking job of disrupting already
No I turned down that offer of magic beans
The labour party and conservatives will be challenged by Farage, he is already doing that and making a difference. He is smart enough to know his strength is in the possibility of taking voters away from the main parties and using that to influence.
Which will in all likelihood leave the Tories worse off, a greater impact upon their voters than it will labour..
It is in the interests of both parties to look at the driving force behind the Reform party and actually start addressing the fundamental issues that voters are unhappy with.
In my opinion we need to start realising some Brexit benefits and turning around the hesitancy in decision making that has blighted Europe over the last 20 years. Whichever one of the 2 main parties picks that up will have a huge advantage, and that will disrupt the disruptor. "
I think they are or would like to at a greater pace,the one thing they won't do is speak in the same language as farage and those on the far right in doing it..
I'm not sure if your point about Brexit is serious or tongue in cheek?
It'll take years if not decades to redress the balance that some of the financial hits the country has taken this far have caused..
But I suppose that's still project fear to dare to say that in this nation of sunny uplands
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By *otMe66Man 2 hours ago
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result. . It looks like you might need to take a more factual approach. AFD came second in the election. Farage has battled in politics for twenty five years. As a driving force behind the referendum he can be considered one of the most successfull politicians of recent times . His actions gave the electorate choices and they voted accordingly
Labour are criticised for not having a plan, can anyone tell me what Reforms plans are, that won’t be ripped apart by the likes of the OBR etc ?
Disruption, it is that simple and Farage knows how.
How does disruption work when they are in government and they have to actually have workable policies.
Do you think they are going to make a government in the next 10 years? If you do then Nigel is doing a cracking job of disrupting already
No I turned down that offer of magic beans
The labour party and conservatives will be challenged by Farage, he is already doing that and making a difference. He is smart enough to know his strength is in the possibility of taking voters away from the main parties and using that to influence.
Which will in all likelihood leave the Tories worse off, a greater impact upon their voters than it will labour..
It is in the interests of both parties to look at the driving force behind the Reform party and actually start addressing the fundamental issues that voters are unhappy with.
In my opinion we need to start realising some Brexit benefits and turning around the hesitancy in decision making that has blighted Europe over the last 20 years. Whichever one of the 2 main parties picks that up will have a huge advantage, and that will disrupt the disruptor.
I think they are or would like to at a greater pace,the one thing they won't do is speak in the same language as farage and those on the far right in doing it..
I'm not sure if your point about Brexit is serious or tongue in cheek?
It'll take years if not decades to redress the balance that some of the financial hits the country has taken this far have caused..
But I suppose that's still project fear to dare to say that in this nation of sunny uplands
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I was serious about taking advantage of not being in the EU.
We can implement changes to enhance the country but successive governments seem to just keep plodding along doing the same old...
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result. . It looks like you might need to take a more factual approach. AFD came second in the election. Farage has battled in politics for twenty five years. As a driving force behind the referendum he can be considered one of the most successfull politicians of recent times . His actions gave the electorate choices and they voted accordingly
Labour are criticised for not having a plan, can anyone tell me what Reforms plans are, that won’t be ripped apart by the likes of the OBR etc ?
Disruption, it is that simple and Farage knows how.
How does disruption work when they are in government and they have to actually have workable policies.
Do you think they are going to make a government in the next 10 years? If you do then Nigel is doing a cracking job of disrupting already
No I turned down that offer of magic beans
The labour party and conservatives will be challenged by Farage, he is already doing that and making a difference. He is smart enough to know his strength is in the possibility of taking voters away from the main parties and using that to influence.
Which will in all likelihood leave the Tories worse off, a greater impact upon their voters than it will labour..
It is in the interests of both parties to look at the driving force behind the Reform party and actually start addressing the fundamental issues that voters are unhappy with.
In my opinion we need to start realising some Brexit benefits and turning around the hesitancy in decision making that has blighted Europe over the last 20 years. Whichever one of the 2 main parties picks that up will have a huge advantage, and that will disrupt the disruptor.
I think they are or would like to at a greater pace,the one thing they won't do is speak in the same language as farage and those on the far right in doing it..
I'm not sure if your point about Brexit is serious or tongue in cheek?
It'll take years if not decades to redress the balance that some of the financial hits the country has taken this far have caused..
But I suppose that's still project fear to dare to say that in this nation of sunny uplands
I was serious about taking advantage of not being in the EU.
We can implement changes to enhance the country but successive governments seem to just keep plodding along doing the same old...
Who and what are the far right's messages, language?"
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By *otMe66Man 2 hours ago
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result. . It looks like you might need to take a more factual approach. AFD came second in the election. Farage has battled in politics for twenty five years. As a driving force behind the referendum he can be considered one of the most successfull politicians of recent times . His actions gave the electorate choices and they voted accordingly
Labour are criticised for not having a plan, can anyone tell me what Reforms plans are, that won’t be ripped apart by the likes of the OBR etc ?
Disruption, it is that simple and Farage knows how.
How does disruption work when they are in government and they have to actually have workable policies.
Do you think they are going to make a government in the next 10 years? If you do then Nigel is doing a cracking job of disrupting already
No I turned down that offer of magic beans
The labour party and conservatives will be challenged by Farage, he is already doing that and making a difference. He is smart enough to know his strength is in the possibility of taking voters away from the main parties and using that to influence.
Which will in all likelihood leave the Tories worse off, a greater impact upon their voters than it will labour..
It is in the interests of both parties to look at the driving force behind the Reform party and actually start addressing the fundamental issues that voters are unhappy with.
In my opinion we need to start realising some Brexit benefits and turning around the hesitancy in decision making that has blighted Europe over the last 20 years. Whichever one of the 2 main parties picks that up will have a huge advantage, and that will disrupt the disruptor.
I think they are or would like to at a greater pace,the one thing they won't do is speak in the same language as farage and those on the far right in doing it..
I'm not sure if your point about Brexit is serious or tongue in cheek?
It'll take years if not decades to redress the balance that some of the financial hits the country has taken this far have caused..
But I suppose that's still project fear to dare to say that in this nation of sunny uplands
I was serious about taking advantage of not being in the EU.
We can implement changes to enhance the country but successive governments seem to just keep plodding along doing the same old...
Who and what are the far right's messages, language?
On immigration they are freely available to access.. "
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"Farage has a charisma which appeals to lower socio-economic groups, poorly educated mainly white older voters. The five constituencies Reform won fit this model of their voters.
If Reform wants to become more than a protest party it has to significantly broaden its appeal to many more voters.
Reform without Farage is nothing and will quickly implode. Farage is notoriously thin skinned and difficult to get on with. History shows he is a quitter.
We shall see, but Reform is more likely to implode than form a government.
exactly the same things can be said about Trump but the Americans have voted for him twice
Trump took over the Republican party which has had Presidents galore. He spotted the opportunity took a party looking for a leader and moulded it in his image.
Because Farage can't work with anyone, and unlike Trump, doesn't have massive wealth, he has to keep starting new Parties (UKIP, Brexit and Reform) which have never gained traction in part due to lack of funds, and a hostile establishment.
In Germany, despite all the hype 9 out of 10 of the electorate voted and only 1 in 5 of those voted AfD. Hardly an impressive result. . It looks like you might need to take a more factual approach. AFD came second in the election. Farage has battled in politics for twenty five years. As a driving force behind the referendum he can be considered one of the most successfull politicians of recent times . His actions gave the electorate choices and they voted accordingly
Labour are criticised for not having a plan, can anyone tell me what Reforms plans are, that won’t be ripped apart by the likes of the OBR etc ?
Disruption, it is that simple and Farage knows how.
How does disruption work when they are in government and they have to actually have workable policies.
Do you think they are going to make a government in the next 10 years? If you do then Nigel is doing a cracking job of disrupting already
No I turned down that offer of magic beans
The labour party and conservatives will be challenged by Farage, he is already doing that and making a difference. He is smart enough to know his strength is in the possibility of taking voters away from the main parties and using that to influence.
Which will in all likelihood leave the Tories worse off, a greater impact upon their voters than it will labour..
It is in the interests of both parties to look at the driving force behind the Reform party and actually start addressing the fundamental issues that voters are unhappy with.
In my opinion we need to start realising some Brexit benefits and turning around the hesitancy in decision making that has blighted Europe over the last 20 years. Whichever one of the 2 main parties picks that up will have a huge advantage, and that will disrupt the disruptor.
I think they are or would like to at a greater pace,the one thing they won't do is speak in the same language as farage and those on the far right in doing it..
I'm not sure if your point about Brexit is serious or tongue in cheek?
It'll take years if not decades to redress the balance that some of the financial hits the country has taken this far have caused..
But I suppose that's still project fear to dare to say that in this nation of sunny uplands
I was serious about taking advantage of not being in the EU.
We can implement changes to enhance the country but successive governments seem to just keep plodding along doing the same old...
Who and what are the far right's messages, language?
On immigration they are freely available to access..
I'm asking because I do not know any far right parties in the UK, who are you talking about, Reform? "
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You need to look at his voting records.
If it is forthe working man then he voted against it!
"Farage is the only honest political leader we have here in the UK. He was a Tory, but left that party when John Major signed the Maastricht Treaty in 1992.
He has stuck to his guns, campaigning to take us out of the EU, ever since. He did retire, when BREXIT was supposed to have been done, but the preset day Tories just continually kicked it into the long grass.
Labour are consistently attempting to realign us with the EU, probably in readiness to rejoining.
So Nigel came out of retirement, not very long ago, and rejoined Reform UK as leader. They got a handful of MPs at the last election, which came too soon for them to make a big campaign. Now they are heading all of the opinion polls.
I predict that the UK will have a Reform UK government in 2028, hopefully a majority government. This country needs serious changes, because we are are really in the deep deep doo doo.
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