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I saw a statistic yesterday which sums up the problems we face in the UK and the EU.
It was something like we have 5% of the world population and 25% of the economy but spend 50% of the global total on health and welfare.
It looks about right as in the UK the NHS is about 40% of total public expenditure.
Totally unsustainable?
Ripe for savings to be made? |
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"I saw a statistic yesterday which sums up the problems we face in the UK and the EU.
It was something like we have 5% of the world population and 25% of the economy but spend 50% of the global total on health and welfare.
It looks about right as in the UK the NHS is about 40% of total public expenditure.
Totally unsustainable?
Ripe for savings to be made?"
One of the biggest problems in the nhs is the need for progress optics. In fact progress is often cyclic because it is felt change is always for the better. This change, which costs money, is often something that worked before but was changed for progress optics. |
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"I saw a statistic yesterday which sums up the problems we face in the UK and the EU.
It was something like we have 5% of the world population and 25% of the economy but spend 50% of the global total on health and welfare.
It looks about right as in the UK the NHS is about 40% of total public expenditure.
Totally unsustainable?
Ripe for savings to be made?"
I'm sorry (not), but those statements and the data you produced are made with little context or comparison. Britain is not the US at all! It's quite a stretch to compare Britain with other similar sized/gdp European countries who are closest to being similar. There's not any country in the world like it imo, but that's another story.
I agree that the welfare bill is out of control. I seen there's £50b spent on people out of work/long term sick etc. BUT that does not tell the full story... The economy is suffering due to the lack of productivity and needs workers. Millions on long term sick or have never worked, how can you force someone into a job when they would need to earn £35k pre tax, a year to not lose out on what they get in benefits? I have a chronic illness myself, so I know and probably sympathise with many who do too, but I still manage to work and am lucky to earn much more than MW to sustain my life. An no it's not easy, sometimes I think some people are lazy, but the vast majority, I'd wager 90% of economically inactive people would work if given the chance. Would they walk into £30 grand jobs off the bat though? Not had the luxury of doing further education like me too, there's a strong correlation with people that hold further ed qualifications earn much more than people without, so who's helping them? after not working for a long time or at all in their lives? We all know the answer to that. I'd suggest not punching down on people, as not everyone is a lazy slob that sits around drinking cans of Tennant super all day on their front doorstep.
The UK has had nearly 2 decades of reducing the rate in public spending across all sectors. I don't know of any benefits that has brought to the nation generally or for the average individual across all ages. So blanket answers of "cuts, cuts, cuts" are not the right thing to do in the UK. Sometimes you to invest/speculate a few pounds in people to improve their situation. That's the job of government, some are losses some are success. But giving people no hope and telling them they'll never amount to anything is a self fulfilling prophecy and will not produce any success |
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"I saw a statistic yesterday which sums up the problems we face in the UK and the EU.
It was something like we have 5% of the world population and 25% of the economy but spend 50% of the global total on health and welfare.
It looks about right as in the UK the NHS is about 40% of total public expenditure.
Totally unsustainable?
Ripe for savings to be made?"
Our whole economic and welfare model needs restructuring. Good luck finding a Govt who can do that! |
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"I saw a statistic yesterday which sums up the problems we face in the UK and the EU.
It was something like we have 5% of the world population and 25% of the economy but spend 50% of the global total on health and welfare.
It looks about right as in the UK the NHS is about 40% of total public expenditure.
Totally unsustainable?
Ripe for savings to be made?
Our whole economic and welfare model needs restructuring. Good luck finding a Govt who can do that!"
Would require one that isn't funded by Russian oligarchs and companies listed in tax havens, none of them are free of this ulterior motive so you will be served the same shit over and over, vote red or blue it's all the same. |
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"I think there's a good proportion of people who would accept a little more tax, to increase investments to the health services. We've seen the effects of underfunding and it's not pretty "
That's the problem though imo, some people want one thing then others want something else. |
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"I think there's a good proportion of people who would accept a little more tax, to increase investments to the health services. We've seen the effects of underfunding and it's not pretty "
Those good proportion of people can pay voluntary tax if they really cared. |
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"It's partly due to an ageing population and partly due to poor administration. Covid made things worse. But NHS definitely needs some restructuring
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Poor administration?
NHS restructuring?
Can you elaborate |
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Far too much waste.
Not enough accountability for this waste.
Too many managers/non clinical roles.
Far too much bureaucracy.
Far too many incompetent people in senior positions.
Ever increasing population and ageing population.
Decreased number of hospital beds.
And so on….. basically, it’s no longer (and has probably never been) fit for purpose. People think of it as free, therefore it gets abused. It is not free for those of us who pay NI! |
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"It's partly due to an ageing population and partly due to poor administration. Covid made things worse. But NHS definitely needs some restructuring
Poor administration?
NHS restructuring?
Can you elaborate "
It comes with bureaucracy and wastefulness of any public service because they are essentially a monopoly. They are still using fax machines in some places and IT software from decades back. The
GP system is also a mess. Need something to stop the public misusing the system. |
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"It's partly due to an ageing population and partly due to poor administration. Covid made things worse. But NHS definitely needs some restructuring
Poor administration?
NHS restructuring?
Can you elaborate
It comes with bureaucracy and wastefulness of any public service because they are essentially a monopoly. They are still using fax machines in some places and IT software from decades back. The
GP system is also a mess. Need something to stop the public misusing the system."
It's
Fax is only realy used for sending prescriptions as its the only legal method. As it is one in one put e mail give the option for repeated printing.
And yes some IT is ld to match equipment. Would you replace a MRI scanner just because it was limited to windows XP.
But this is all now focused on NHS
Not the longterm non working happy to live in social housing on a basic free income and not have to pay anything in to a state but the anything they can get out of it.
I'm in hastings and see this everywhere so meny just don't want to work and will not work.
How to get some to work is very hard.
Hastings is about No 20 on the most Diprived list. |
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"It's partly due to an ageing population and partly due to poor administration. Covid made things worse. But NHS definitely needs some restructuring
Poor administration?
NHS restructuring?
Can you elaborate
It comes with bureaucracy and wastefulness of any public service because they are essentially a monopoly. They are still using fax machines in some places and IT software from decades back. The
GP system is also a mess. Need something to stop the public misusing the system."
Not quite sure how a public service is described as a monopoly
You're not wrong about antiquated elements in the NHS that cause waste, but to replace them you would need to invest to replace them costing much more in the short term, that doesn't really fit the narrative of cutting costs.
The unique position of being free at point of use is open to abuse, I agree, millions lost in no show appointments, but that is mostly going to be calculated from wages. |
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"I think there's a good proportion of people who would accept a little more tax, to increase investments to the health services. We've seen the effects of underfunding and it's not pretty "
But if we all pay an extra 1-2% most won't go on health.
Since the age of Thatcher the UK has encouraged micro business and self employment, leading to a gig economy and more self employed.
But as self employed It's much more tax efficient from a personal level. So the state gets less from this worker than it dose from an employee on a wage paying PAYE.
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"It's partly due to an ageing population and partly due to poor administration. Covid made things worse. But NHS definitely needs some restructuring
Poor administration?
NHS restructuring?
Can you elaborate "
A quarter+ of the nhs budget spent on self inflicted problems
25 million overweight
15 million obese
Third children overweight
6 million being treated for smoking diseases
3 million being treated for drug diseases/addiction
£20bn a year cost treating malnutrition (malnutrition action group BAPEN)
Poor regulation of food supply
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"It's partly due to an ageing population and partly due to poor administration. Covid made things worse. But NHS definitely needs some restructuring
Poor administration?
NHS restructuring?
Can you elaborate
A quarter+ of the nhs budget spent on self inflicted problems
25 million overweight
15 million obese
Third children overweight
6 million being treated for smoking diseases
3 million being treated for drug diseases/addiction
£20bn a year cost treating malnutrition (malnutrition action group BAPEN)
Poor regulation of food supply
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All those stem from an americanised lifestyle |
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The UK’s growing addiction to unhealthy food costs £268bn a year, far outstripping the budget for the whole NHS.
The increased consumption of foods high in fat, salt and sugar or which have been highly processed is having a “devastating” impact on human health and Britain’s finances.
“Far from keeping us well, our current food system, with its undue deference to what is known colloquially as ‘big food’, is making us sick. The costs of trying to manage that sickness are rapidly becoming unpayable,” the Food, Farming and Countryside Commission (FFCC) report says.
The £268bn figure has emerged from the first academic research looking at the cost of Britain’s increasing consumption of food that, according to the government’s system of assessing nutritional quality, is deemed unhealthy.
Of that, £92bn covers the direct costs to the government of tackling the impacts of what the FFCC calls “Britain’s unhealthy food system”. It involves spending by the NHS (£67.5bn), social care services (£14.3bn) and the welfare system (£10.1bn) on tackling the diseases closely linked to diet, such as type 2 diabetes, heart problems and kidney disease.
The other £176bn is the indirect cost of lost productivity from people who are too sick to work due to diet-related illness (£116.4bn) and “human costs”, such as pain and early death (£60bn).
( The False Economy of Big Food
And the case for a new food economy
15th November 2024)
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The UK’s growing addiction to unhealthy food costs £268bn a year, far outstripping the budget for the whole NHS.
The increased consumption of foods high in fat, salt and sugar or which have been highly processed is having a “devastating” impact on human health and Britain’s finances.
“Far from keeping us well, our current food system, with its undue deference to what is known colloquially as ‘big food’, is making us sick. The costs of trying to manage that sickness are rapidly becoming unpayable,” the Food, Farming and Countryside Commission (FFCC) report says.
The £268bn figure has emerged from the first academic research looking at the cost of Britain’s increasing consumption of food that, according to the government’s system of assessing nutritional quality, is deemed unhealthy.
Of that, £92bn covers the direct costs to the government of tackling the impacts of what the FFCC calls “Britain’s unhealthy food system”. It involves spending by the NHS (£67.5bn), social care services (£14.3bn) and the welfare system (£10.1bn) on tackling the diseases closely linked to diet, such as type 2 diabetes, heart problems and kidney disease.
The other £176bn is the indirect cost of lost productivity from people who are too sick to work due to diet-related illness (£116.4bn) and “human costs”, such as pain and early death (£60bn).
( The False Economy of Big Food
And the case for a new food economy
15th November 2024)
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That's fine to outline but how would yiu change behaviour behing this Cheep Big Food.. |
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( The False Economy of Big Food
And the case for a new food economy
15th November 2024)
That's fine to outline but how would yiu change behaviour behing this Cheep Big Food.. "
A few extra points
37% uk farms closed since 1973
UK allotment waiting list is around 174,000 people across England, Scotland, and Wales waiting for an allotment plot, with average waiting times reported to be around three years; however, depending on the location, waiting times can be significantly longer, with some areas experiencing waits of up to 15 years
New homes with small gardens, high fences blocking light, poor soil over the top of developers site debris not encouraging or facilitating growing own food.
Poor grant funding to set up new farms
Planning system against on scale growing in greenhouses ( Weather) and controllable climate |
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"It's partly due to an ageing population and partly due to poor administration. Covid made things worse. But NHS definitely needs some restructuring
Poor administration?
NHS restructuring?
Can you elaborate
It comes with bureaucracy and wastefulness of any public service because they are essentially a monopoly. They are still using fax machines in some places and IT software from decades back. The
GP system is also a mess. Need something to stop the public misusing the system. It's
Fax is only realy used for sending prescriptions as its the only legal method. As it is one in one put e mail give the option for repeated printing.
And yes some IT is ld to match equipment. Would you replace a MRI scanner just because it was limited to windows XP.
But this is all now focused on NHS
Not the longterm non working happy to live in social housing on a basic free income and not have to pay anything in to a state but the anything they can get out of it.
I'm in hastings and see this everywhere so meny just don't want to work and will not work.
How to get some to work is very hard.
Hastings is about No 20 on the most Diprived list. "
As per my first posted response on this thread; how do you solve getting people in to work who are long term economically inactive? When the results of doing so makes them worse financially than not working in the first place? It's just not true that all of them are happy to live on free income because there's not any alternative. It's insulting towards people to suggest they can just go out and work. |
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"It's partly due to an ageing population and partly due to poor administration. Covid made things worse. But NHS definitely needs some restructuring
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Restructuring opens a whole new can of worms when you think of how Trust's are structured and restructured (I realise this isn't what you mean, nevertheless is expensive).
Examples:
You have acute Trusts (hospitals). When a hospital trusts adds another hospital trust (very possibly failing, like the pilot of Hinchingbrooke Hospital being a business run trust) you have to align all policies and protocols. They all have to be reviewed and take time. Time is money.
You have Foundation Trusts in the community. Again, as above.
Obviously there is much more to align than policies and protocols, I had to pick on something.
At least less trees are being cut down to change the paperwork  . A great deal of paperwork is electronic. However, this still has to happen.
Oh and the best restructuring would actually be compatible IT systems. That has been said for at least two decades but needs investment on a grand scale. |
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"Far too much waste.
Not enough accountability for this waste.
Too many managers/non clinical roles.
Far too much bureaucracy.
Far too many incompetent people in senior positions.
Ever increasing population and ageing population.
Decreased number of hospital beds.
And so on….. basically, it’s no longer (and has probably never been) fit for purpose. People think of it as free, therefore it gets abused. It is not free for those of us who pay NI!"
A decreased number of beds has blindsided politicians. They think the community can take up the short fall. Nope, that needs more investment.
I have personally seen the increase in costs due to a hospital dealing with the current acute condition of a patient and then discharging (that's appropriate for A&E but not for wards where patients should be dealt with holistically). So you see the same patient with comorbidities fluctuating between chronic and acute, being ever increasing frequent flyers and GPs having to make increasing more referrals as the hospital is not doing follow ups.
It is diabolical. |
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"It's partly due to an ageing population and partly due to poor administration. Covid made things worse. But NHS definitely needs some restructuring
Poor administration?
NHS restructuring?
Can you elaborate
It comes with bureaucracy and wastefulness of any public service because they are essentially a monopoly. They are still using fax machines in some places and IT software from decades back. The
GP system is also a mess. Need something to stop the public misusing the system.
Not quite sure how a public service is described as a monopoly
You're not wrong about antiquated elements in the NHS that cause waste, but to replace them you would need to invest to replace them costing much more in the short term, that doesn't really fit the narrative of cutting costs.
The unique position of being free at point of use is open to abuse, I agree, millions lost in no show appointments, but that is mostly going to be calculated from wages."
An increase in missed appointments due to appointments being sent out after the date, or not at all. Completely fucked! |
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"It's partly due to an ageing population and partly due to poor administration. Covid made things worse. But NHS definitely needs some restructuring
Poor administration?
NHS restructuring?
Can you elaborate
A quarter+ of the nhs budget spent on self inflicted problems
25 million overweight
15 million obese
Third children overweight
6 million being treated for smoking diseases
3 million being treated for drug diseases/addiction
£20bn a year cost treating malnutrition (malnutrition action group BAPEN)
Poor regulation of food supply
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Obesity is less about self infliction than you may think. The DHSC starts to look at obesity then stalls... it is too big (ha!) and complex. |
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"It's partly due to an ageing population and partly due to poor administration. Covid made things worse. But NHS definitely needs some restructuring
Poor administration?
NHS restructuring?
Can you elaborate
A quarter+ of the nhs budget spent on self inflicted problems
25 million overweight
15 million obese
Third children overweight
6 million being treated for smoking diseases
3 million being treated for drug diseases/addiction
£20bn a year cost treating malnutrition (malnutrition action group BAPEN)
Poor regulation of food supply
Obesity is less about self infliction than you may think. The DHSC starts to look at obesity then stalls... it is too big (ha!) and complex."
From 1980 to 1998, the percentage of obese men reported to have increased from 6% to 17%
By 2022 to 2023, 64.0% of adults aged 18 years and over in England were estimated to be overweight or living with obesity
Why ? Lifestyle and food supply ?
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"It's partly due to an ageing population and partly due to poor administration. Covid made things worse. But NHS definitely needs some restructuring
Poor administration?
NHS restructuring?
Can you elaborate
It comes with bureaucracy and wastefulness of any public service because they are essentially a monopoly. They are still using fax machines in some places and IT software from decades back. The
GP system is also a mess. Need something to stop the public misusing the system.
Not quite sure how a public service is described as a monopoly
You're not wrong about antiquated elements in the NHS that cause waste, but to replace them you would need to invest to replace them costing much more in the short term, that doesn't really fit the narrative of cutting costs.
The unique position of being free at point of use is open to abuse, I agree, millions lost in no show appointments, but that is mostly going to be calculated from wages."
It is a monopoly. They don't have to fairly compete with anyone. They don't get scrutinised. Elections happen once every 5 years and there are numerous factors affecting people's choice. Simply put, there is no incentive for politicians to run it better. The best they can do is to tax more and throw the money at it. |
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"It's partly due to an ageing population and partly due to poor administration. Covid made things worse. But NHS definitely needs some restructuring
Poor administration?
NHS restructuring?
Can you elaborate
A quarter+ of the nhs budget spent on self inflicted problems
25 million overweight
15 million obese
Third children overweight
6 million being treated for smoking diseases
3 million being treated for drug diseases/addiction
£20bn a year cost treating malnutrition (malnutrition action group BAPEN)
Poor regulation of food supply
Obesity is less about self infliction than you may think. The DHSC starts to look at obesity then stalls... it is too big (ha!) and complex.
From 1980 to 1998, the percentage of obese men reported to have increased from 6% to 17%
By 2022 to 2023, 64.0% of adults aged 18 years and over in England were estimated to be overweight or living with obesity
Why ? Lifestyle and food supply ?
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My dissertation was on obesity. I can assure you it's multifactorial. However, lifestyle and food supply (availability and type) are definitely the biggest factors. |
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"It's partly due to an ageing population and partly due to poor administration. Covid made things worse. But NHS definitely needs some restructuring
Poor administration?
NHS restructuring?
Can you elaborate
It comes with bureaucracy and wastefulness of any public service because they are essentially a monopoly. They are still using fax machines in some places and IT software from decades back. The
GP system is also a mess. Need something to stop the public misusing the system.
Not quite sure how a public service is described as a monopoly
You're not wrong about antiquated elements in the NHS that cause waste, but to replace them you would need to invest to replace them costing much more in the short term, that doesn't really fit the narrative of cutting costs.
The unique position of being free at point of use is open to abuse, I agree, millions lost in no show appointments, but that is mostly going to be calculated from wages.
It is a monopoly. They don't have to fairly compete with anyone. They don't get scrutinised. Elections happen once every 5 years and there are numerous factors affecting people's choice. Simply put, there is no incentive for politicians to run it better. The best they can do is to tax more and throw the money at it."
I don't understand why a public service should need to "compete"?! Do schools, fire service, police etc. need competition to improve? I would beg to differ on them being scrutinised; newspapers and media regularly report their results, usually highlighting and damming towards target failures. And I'm sorry but a better ran health service would greatly incentivise any politician to improve it, it's easily one of the most emotive subjects certainly in the UK and just about every developed country.
That is not the point, I'm still am no closer to understanding what you mean by "monopoly" or how that is relevant to restructuring. What I should ask is where do you think the UK government should go with it's health service if you believe it to be a waste of money/inefficient?
For clarity, I do think it needs change myself, but I don't understand your view. |
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"I saw a statistic yesterday which sums up the problems we face in the UK and the EU.
It was something like we have 5% of the world population and 25% of the economy but spend 50% of the global total on health and welfare.
It looks about right as in the UK the NHS is about 40% of total public expenditure.
Totally unsustainable?
Ripe for savings to be made?"
There seems to be quite a few posts which say that the NHS is under funded. I disagree.
Inefficient, wasteful, poorly managed, fighting a losing battle with political decisions (PFI, social care) and scope creep (bed blocking, obesity, non essential services, health tourism and keeping coffin dodgers alive for no benefit).
All of these.
Underfunded, no. The level of funding is unsustainable and should be reduced.
It needs a full reset back to basic principles and the general population need to take responsibility for their actions and health.
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"I saw a statistic yesterday which sums up the problems we face in the UK and the EU.
It was something like we have 5% of the world population and 25% of the economy but spend 50% of the global total on health and welfare.
It looks about right as in the UK the NHS is about 40% of total public expenditure.
Totally unsustainable?
Ripe for savings to be made?
There seems to be quite a few posts which say that the NHS is under funded. I disagree.
Inefficient, wasteful, poorly managed, fighting a losing battle with political decisions (PFI, social care) and scope creep (bed blocking, obesity, non essential services, health tourism and keeping coffin dodgers alive for no benefit).
All of these.
Underfunded, no. The level of funding is unsustainable and should be reduced.
It needs a full reset back to basic principles and the general population need to take responsibility for their actions and health.
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"I saw a statistic yesterday which sums up the problems we face in the UK and the EU.
It was something like we have 5% of the world population and 25% of the economy but spend 50% of the global total on health and welfare.
It looks about right as in the UK the NHS is about 40% of total public expenditure.
Totally unsustainable?
Ripe for savings to be made?
There seems to be quite a few posts which say that the NHS is under funded. I disagree.
Inefficient, wasteful, poorly managed, fighting a losing battle with political decisions (PFI, social care) and scope creep (bed blocking, obesity, non essential services, health tourism and keeping coffin dodgers alive for no benefit).
All of these.
Underfunded, no. The level of funding is unsustainable and should be reduced.
It needs a full reset back to basic principles and the general population need to take responsibility for their actions and health.
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There will always be people saying yes to underfunded (me included) and those who say no.
It should not be a political pawn.
Trends, culture demographics, and location are priorities for health expenditure.
Every city should have a hospital offering minimum disciplines, and a place of excellence (or attainable within a certain mileage, perhaps looking at county lines).
Every town should have access to a hospital (another type of minimum disciplines).
Beds availability should be based upon minimum of a percentage of census inhabitants.
I'm getting carried away  .
I'll end with saying that every member of staff should feel valued
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20% GP appointments reported no shows
£80bn Labour nhs PFI reported to have delivered £13bn investment
£1.7bn vip PPE Covid fraudsters
£17bn on prescriptions including £74million on paracetamol at £4.50 a pack (49p at the range)
£300 million of prescribed medicines are wasted each year (nhs own data)
NHS spent £2.8 billion on clinical negligence claims last year
NHS spent £10.4 billion on bank staff after and including cancelling nurses training bursaries
£6.5bn on obesity (rising to £9.7bn)
£5bn alcohol abuse
£20bn on drug abuse
£2.5bn treating smoking diseases
NHS maintenance backlog £13.8 billion last year (double budget fig)
Add all the contracts throughout the nhs probably 20% over priced
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"20% GP appointments reported no shows
£80bn Labour nhs PFI reported to have delivered £13bn investment
£1.7bn vip PPE Covid fraudsters
£17bn on prescriptions including £74million on paracetamol at £4.50 a pack (49p at the range)
£300 million of prescribed medicines are wasted each year (nhs own data)
NHS spent £2.8 billion on clinical negligence claims last year
NHS spent £10.4 billion on bank staff after and including cancelling nurses training bursaries
£6.5bn on obesity (rising to £9.7bn)
£5bn alcohol abuse
£20bn on drug abuse
£2.5bn treating smoking diseases
NHS maintenance backlog £13.8 billion last year (double budget fig)
Add all the contracts throughout the nhs probably 20% over priced
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Re paracetamol, prescriptions are down (at least in my area). However, there are exceptions and packets of 100 are prescribed.
There also has been a change in prescription management (people having to request repeats). There are, again, exceptions. |
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