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So the BBC has withdrawn its programme about life in Gaza which focused on a young boy who turned out to be the son of a senior Hamas official. In the programme he was given a fake family. Also turns out one of the cameraman celebrated the October 7th massacres on Social media.
Do you still trust the BBC or has its reputation for impartiality taken too many blows ? |
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I used to listen to Radio 4 every day up to about fifteen years ago but haven’t listened to or watched the BBC since then.
It used to be quality but underwent a marked shift to the Left.
The only reason I’d watch the BBC is if I wanted to know what the Blob wanted us to think.
Otherwise it’s just a load of parochial Leftist drivel. |
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What the BBC needs to understand is that in general, the less impartial it appears to be (whether in respect of issues supported by man or few), the greater that demands for defunding will occur.
The BBC therefore has a responsibility to itself to forsake today's headline for tomorrow's future because without central funding, it will cease to exist. |
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By *otMe66Man 9 weeks ago
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I'm deeply disappointed in the whole saga.
From the time it took to acknowledge to the time taken for corrective action.
Now the heat has been turned up with events today, they have taken it down to conduct further due diligence with the production company, whilst saying the production team had full editorial control of filming the son of a Hamas deputy minister of agriculture.
Those last 2 statements, regardless of what your opinions are on the subject matter should be alarming to hear from our national broadcaster.
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The cnn video of the four deceased hostages including two children the Red Cross was deeply disturbing. Crowd's came out for the handover with accompanying music playing.
Israel now claiming that the children were murdered by hand ( not cut or shot) and the mothers body parts include that of a Gazan. |
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"I'm deeply disappointed in the whole saga.
From the time it took to acknowledge to the time taken for corrective action.
Now the heat has been turned up with events today, they have taken it down to conduct further due diligence with the production company, whilst saying the production team had full editorial control of filming the son of a Hamas deputy minister of agriculture.
Those last 2 statements, regardless of what your opinions are on the subject matter should be alarming to hear from our national broadcaster.
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Ooft! An Hamas terrorist in charge of agriculture you say. he sound really freekin dangerous!.
The BBC has been accused of pro Israel bias, including a guy "Raffi berg" (I think his name is ) working for the BBC with both mosad and CIA links who's some sort of editor.
I'm not really a fan of the BBC btw due to it extortionate licence fee and obligory payments bit yep it's lack of openess here is concerning though I'm more concerned about its covering up of paedophiles including the pay and pension arrangements with the likes of hue Edwards than this exposé.
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By *ada123Couple 9 weeks ago
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"I used to listen to Radio 4 every day up to about fifteen years ago but haven’t listened to or watched the BBC since then.
It used to be quality but underwent a marked shift to the Left.
The only reason I’d watch the BBC is if I wanted to know what the Blob wanted us to think.
Otherwise it’s just a load of parochial Leftist drivel."
The perception of the position on the political spectrum of another entity conforms to Einstein's law of Relativity. The BBC'S shift to the left is very likely a result of your shift to the right.  |
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"An FoI has revealed that Huw Edwards has still not repaid the £200k the BBC has demanded back. And then I read that its DEI director is on a base salary of £267k. Defund the BBC."
Both shocking figures.  |
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By *otMe66Man 9 weeks ago
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"I'm deeply disappointed in the whole saga.
From the time it took to acknowledge to the time taken for corrective action.
Now the heat has been turned up with events today, they have taken it down to conduct further due diligence with the production company, whilst saying the production team had full editorial control of filming the son of a Hamas deputy minister of agriculture.
Those last 2 statements, regardless of what your opinions are on the subject matter should be alarming to hear from our national broadcaster.
Ooft! An Hamas terrorist in charge of agriculture you say. he sound really freekin dangerous!.
The BBC has been accused of pro Israel bias, including a guy "Raffi berg" (I think his name is ) working for the BBC with both mosad and CIA links who's some sort of editor.
I'm not really a fan of the BBC btw due to it extortionate licence fee and obligory payments bit yep it's lack of openess here is concerning though I'm more concerned about its covering up of paedophiles including the pay and pension arrangements with the likes of hue Edwards than this exposé.
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The way they have conducted themselves in this matter is appalling.
I can see no excuse for not completing due diligence on every item they broadcast, that is what they are supposed to do as a matter of upholding professional standards that they take tax payers money for.
side note; I didn't say;
"An Hamas terrorist in charge of agriculture you say".
However that is a good summary of the situation and why the BBC is accused of bias. |
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Any Hamas Minister is by definition a supporter of terrorism such as the massacres of October 7th.
Can you seriously imagine the BBC making a documentary featuring the son of an Israeli Govt Minister without making this clear ?!
The pro Hamas and anti Israel bias is baked into much of the BBC. |
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The BBC hasn't handled this very well and should have done it's due diligence before showing the program. The BBC does try too hard be impartial and ends up ties it's self in knots and upsetting both sides. The problem most news sites have these days is most people can and do get their news from places that just agree with their existing view point. I personally try and get my news from multiple places including places I think politically are against what I stand for. |
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"Any Hamas Minister is by definition a supporter of terrorism such as the massacres of October 7th.
Can you seriously imagine the BBC making a documentary featuring the son of an Israeli Govt Minister without making this clear ?!
The pro Hamas and anti Israel bias is baked into much of the BBC."
UN relief organisation employed Hamas too
Reported a year+ ago 75% Palestinians supported the Hamas attacks characterised by them cheering in the streets while Israeli women were being butchered
When the rest of retrievable hostages are out Israel will burn Gaza to the ground |
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By (user no longer on site) 9 weeks ago
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"Any Hamas Minister is by definition a supporter of terrorism such as the massacres of October 7th.
Can you seriously imagine the BBC making a documentary featuring the son of an Israeli Govt Minister without making this clear ?!
The pro Hamas and anti Israel bias is baked into much of the BBC."
? Is that an expression of opinion or are you claiming it as fact about the BBC bias?
Raffi Berg is a Jewish middle east editor who's also accused of having links with mossad and the CIA.
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By *otMe66Man 9 weeks ago
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"Any Hamas Minister is by definition a supporter of terrorism such as the massacres of October 7th.
Can you seriously imagine the BBC making a documentary featuring the son of an Israeli Govt Minister without making this clear ?!
The pro Hamas and anti Israel bias is baked into much of the BBC.
? Is that an expression of opinion or are you claiming it as fact about the BBC bias?
Raffi Berg is a Jewish middle east editor who's also accused of having links with mossad and the CIA.
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It is an accusation that is going to have a footing in the truth, if this is how they have aired documentaries.
To then follow it up with a number of excuses, including the production team had full editorial control, them taking days to remove it after the facts came out and finally saying they needed to conduct due diligence with the production team, is inexcusable.
It is excuse after excuse, which as I said will fuel or prove the accusation of Hamas bias.
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"Any Hamas Minister is by definition a supporter of terrorism such as the massacres of October 7th.
Can you seriously imagine the BBC making a documentary featuring the son of an Israeli Govt Minister without making this clear ?!
The pro Hamas and anti Israel bias is baked into much of the BBC.
? Is that an expression of opinion or are you claiming it as fact about the BBC bias?
Raffi Berg is a Jewish middle east editor who's also accused of having links with mossad and the CIA.
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Lol should the BBC not employ Jews ? |
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The fact that one person thinks the bbc is pro Isreal and another thinks pro hamas show the problem with the bbc in the current time. The bbc tries so hard to be impartial,trying giving every equal merit, that it pleases no one and often looks ridiculous. I as I said earlier the ability to just get your news from places that agree with what you think doesn't make the bbc's job any easier. |
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"How terrible of Hamas to knowingly put in the remains of another woman in that coffin, saying it was the mother of those two young boys.
Vile thing to do, Mrs x"
And the thousands of gazans that came out in celebration to see Hamas hand them over. The bbc wouldn’t show that filming. |
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By *otMe66Man 9 weeks ago
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"How terrible of Hamas to knowingly put in the remains of another woman in that coffin, saying it was the mother of those two young boys.
Vile thing to do, Mrs x
And the thousands of gazans that came out in celebration to see Hamas hand them over. The bbc wouldn’t show that filming. "
The handovers are awful! I thought it was bad enough that they parade hostages before release, but the handover of deceased children in coffins with a poorly drawn image of Netanyahu with fangs and blood was disturbing.
There also seems to be a lack of discipline amongst Hamas involved in the handover, pushing and pulling each other. |
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"How terrible of Hamas to knowingly put in the remains of another woman in that coffin, saying it was the mother of those two young boys.
Vile thing to do, Mrs x
And the thousands of gazans that came out in celebration to see Hamas hand them over. The bbc wouldn’t show that filming.
The handovers are awful! I thought it was bad enough that they parade hostages before release, but the handover of deceased children in coffins with a poorly drawn image of Netanyahu with fangs and blood was disturbing.
There also seems to be a lack of discipline amongst Hamas involved in the handover, pushing and pulling each other."
To be fair, they are a bunch of blood thirsty terrorists, following a violent, religious ideology, what makes you think they'd be more disciplined? They are, as the poster above says, savages,
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By *otMe66Man 9 weeks ago
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"How terrible of Hamas to knowingly put in the remains of another woman in that coffin, saying it was the mother of those two young boys.
Vile thing to do, Mrs x
And the thousands of gazans that came out in celebration to see Hamas hand them over. The bbc wouldn’t show that filming.
The handovers are awful! I thought it was bad enough that they parade hostages before release, but the handover of deceased children in coffins with a poorly drawn image of Netanyahu with fangs and blood was disturbing.
There also seems to be a lack of discipline amongst Hamas involved in the handover, pushing and pulling each other.To be fair, they are a bunch of blood thirsty terrorists, following a violent, religious ideology, what makes you think they'd be more disciplined? They are, as the poster above says, savages,
Mrs x"
They are putting themselves on a world stage, I would expect that to sharpen them up, it doesn't. |
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By (user no longer on site) 9 weeks ago
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"Any Hamas Minister is by definition a supporter of terrorism such as the massacres of October 7th.
Can you seriously imagine the BBC making a documentary featuring the son of an Israeli Govt Minister without making this clear ?!
The pro Hamas and anti Israel bias is baked into much of the BBC.
? Is that an expression of opinion or are you claiming it as fact about the BBC bias?
Raffi Berg is a Jewish middle east editor who's also accused of having links with mossad and the CIA.
Lol should the BBC not employ Jews ? "
I'm just debunking your opinion that the BBC is pro Hamas/Palestine |
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"Any Hamas Minister is by definition a supporter of terrorism such as the massacres of October 7th.
Can you seriously imagine the BBC making a documentary featuring the son of an Israeli Govt Minister without making this clear ?!
The pro Hamas and anti Israel bias is baked into much of the BBC.
? Is that an expression of opinion or are you claiming it as fact about the BBC bias?
Raffi Berg is a Jewish middle east editor who's also accused of having links with mossad and the CIA.
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Surely it's not those who are making the news programme, it's much more about the people in the news that counts.
It's just another example of Hamas lying to push their narrative, something they've done lots of and the media have been complicit in this with them, shocking,
Mrs x |
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The BBC is obsessed with "balanced", as opposed to "unbiased" reporting. This is a problem.
You will notice that if a brand is mentioned, say, on a panel show, the host will usually jump in and say "other brands are also available, such as X and Y" - in order to bring"balance". A similar principle is applied in news, not just the BBC. This can often bring equal prominence or credence to unbalanced arguments. In some ways, the principle of not taking a position ends up with the practical outcome of over-promoting another position.
Unbiased reporting is rare and almost impossible. |
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It's easy to be duped by the media and drawn in.
If you know how to manipulate it, like the summer riots caused by Internet rumours by a Pakistani outlet, which may be a left wing operation, which could have been instigated by people in this country knowing full well the cause and effect.
I've noticed people being interviewed on tv and radio who are "actors"
Paid to give an opinion on a subject on live media programmes.
It reminds me of the scene in Close Encounters where the media is used to scare people to keep away from the alien rendezvous site.
It relies on people's gullibility.
Dangerous, don't let your children watch television before they can read.
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The BBC employed Savile, Harris, Edwards….. why would I believe anything they say?
Most MSM are heavily biased, and therefore should be ignored. The BBC is publicly funded by way of taxation and therefore should be neutral and trustworthy but it isn’t.
All public funding should be withdrawn from the BBC, it’s a total disgrace.
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"The BBC employed Savile, Harris, Edwards….. why would I believe anything they say?
Most MSM are heavily biased, and therefore should be ignored. The BBC is publicly funded by way of taxation and therefore should be neutral and trustworthy but it isn’t.
All public funding should be withdrawn from the BBC, it’s a total disgrace.
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The idea that a public funded media service would automatically become neutral was ridiculous to begin with.
Institutions are run by people and people are biased. It was only a matter of time before people belonging to one political leaning or another take control of the whole management chain. |
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By (user no longer on site) 8 weeks ago
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"Any Hamas Minister is by definition a supporter of terrorism such as the massacres of October 7th.
Can you seriously imagine the BBC making a documentary featuring the son of an Israeli Govt Minister without making this clear ?!
The pro Hamas and anti Israel bias is baked into much of the BBC.
? Is that an expression of opinion or are you claiming it as fact about the BBC bias?
Raffi Berg is a Jewish middle east editor who's also accused of having links with mossad and the CIA.
Surely it's not those who are making the news programme, it's much more about the people in the news that counts.
It's just another example of Hamas lying to push their narrative, something they've done lots of and the media have been complicit in this with them, shocking,
Mrs x"
Did you watch it or is this another example of your "devine wisdom" without watching it?
I haven't seen it so I've the common sense not judge what I haven't seen - unlike others! |
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"Any Hamas Minister is by definition a supporter of terrorism such as the massacres of October 7th.
Can you seriously imagine the BBC making a documentary featuring the son of an Israeli Govt Minister without making this clear ?!
The pro Hamas and anti Israel bias is baked into much of the BBC.
? Is that an expression of opinion or are you claiming it as fact about the BBC bias?
Raffi Berg is a Jewish middle east editor who's also accused of having links with mossad and the CIA.
Surely it's not those who are making the news programme, it's much more about the people in the news that counts.
It's just another example of Hamas lying to push their narrative, something they've done lots of and the media have been complicit in this with them, shocking,
Mrs x
Did you watch it or is this another example of your "devine wisdom" without watching it?
I haven't seen it so I've the common sense not judge what I haven't seen - unlike others!"
Can you just stop it with the personal attacks, on every thread on which I post, it's getting boring now... just grow up.
I've commented on Hamas lying as they have done it before. I've even posted the report from were I received my information from.
I've not seen the film but I can't now can I its been deleted haha.
I can comment on the reasons it was deleted because they are in the public domain and therefore I can have an opinion on it.
You really are struggling with the notion of a forum and the subsequent debates that go on within them, aren't you? It's OK to criticise the posts put up but not the poster. Disagree with what I've written by all means but don't disagree with me for just being 'me', it's more than idiotic it's just silly, very silly. Stop it so you don't look even more ridiculous,
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By (user no longer on site) 8 weeks ago
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"Any Hamas Minister is by definition a supporter of terrorism such as the massacres of October 7th.
Can you seriously imagine the BBC making a documentary featuring the son of an Israeli Govt Minister without making this clear ?!
The pro Hamas and anti Israel bias is baked into much of the BBC.
? Is that an expression of opinion or are you claiming it as fact about the BBC bias?
Raffi Berg is a Jewish middle east editor who's also accused of having links with mossad and the CIA.
Surely it's not those who are making the news programme, it's much more about the people in the news that counts.
It's just another example of Hamas lying to push their narrative, something they've done lots of and the media have been complicit in this with them, shocking,
Mrs x
Did you watch it or is this another example of your "devine wisdom" without watching it?
I haven't seen it so I've the common sense not judge what I haven't seen - unlike others!Can you just stop it with the personal attacks, on every thread on which I post, it's getting boring now... just grow up.
I've commented on Hamas lying as they have done it before. I've even posted the report from were I received my information from.
I've not seen the film but I can't now can I its been deleted haha.
I can comment on the reasons it was deleted because they are in the public domain and therefore I can have an opinion on it.
You really are struggling with the notion of a forum and the subsequent debates that go on within them, aren't you? It's OK to criticise the posts put up but not the poster. Disagree with what I've written by all means but don't disagree with me for just being 'me', it's more than idiotic it's just silly, very silly. Stop it so you don't look even more ridiculous,
Mrs x"
Okay then I'll re-phrase it. Has anyone watched it? Or was it pulled before airing? |
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Okay then I'll re-phrase it. Has anyone watched it? Or was it pulled before airing?"
Yes. It was aired more than once.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/who-is-responsible-for-the-bbcs-gaza-documentary-debacle/
"...immediately spotted the tell-tale glaring continuity errors in a sequence featuring the young ‘volunteer paramedic’. His shoes changed four times in what was supposedly a single chain of events in one day at the hospital. His hair length fluctuated between shots. The BBC appeared to have stitched together different events to manufacture an emotional through-line claiming to cover the aftermath of a single air strike..."
"...begrudgingly remove the documentary from iPlayer yesterday for ‘further due diligence’. A feeble gesture, long after the damage was done. They had already broadcast the film multiple times..."
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By (user no longer on site) 8 weeks ago
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"BBC spent £400,000 on documentary. How much went into Hamas account?"
Investigation into this possibly? It's illegal to pay money to prescribed terrorists? |
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"BBC spent £400,000 on documentary. How much went into Hamas account?
Investigation into this possibly? It's illegal to pay money to prescribed terrorists? "
I'll have to ask my doctor which condition he prescribes Hamas for! |
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"BBC spent £400,000 on documentary. How much went into Hamas account?
Investigation into this possibly? It's illegal to pay money to prescribed terrorists?
I'll have to ask my doctor which condition he prescribes Hamas for!"
😂 Mrs x |
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By *otMe66Man 8 weeks ago
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I wonder if the 500 "media stars" who called for the film to be reinstated to the iPlayer, have had second thoughts or if they are doubling down on their quotes in their letter to the BBC, such as:
criticism of the documentary (drama) is based on “racist assumptions and weaponisation of identity”
“This broad brush rhetoric assumes that Palestinians holding administrative roles are inherently complicit in violence – a racist trope that denies individuals their humanity and right to share their lived experiences”:
I love how they have managed to simply ignore that the role held was with Hamas a terrorist organisation.
One good thing that came out of that letter, I can see where some people get their influences and opinions from. |
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"I wonder if the 500 "media stars" who called for the film to be reinstated to the iPlayer, have had second thoughts or if they are doubling down on their quotes in their letter to the BBC, such as:
criticism of the documentary (drama) is based on “racist assumptions and weaponisation of identity”
“This broad brush rhetoric assumes that Palestinians holding administrative roles are inherently complicit in violence – a racist trope that denies individuals their humanity and right to share their lived experiences”:
I love how they have managed to simply ignore that the role held was with Hamas a terrorist organisation.
One good thing that came out of that letter, I can see where some people get their influences and opinions from. "
I bet that dumbo Lineker signed 🤣🤣 |
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