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By *mateur100 OP   Man 4 days ago

nr faversham

SKS thinks any Ukrainian peace deal must have a US backstop...nice of him to decide on behalf of the US. Alternatively, European countries could collectively sort out their own problems rather than rely on the States

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By (user no longer on site) 4 days ago

People seem to forget that the Yanks are not "protecting" Europe or anyone else through some sort of amazing altruism. They have bases scattered across the globe to protect themselves back in the good old US of A. Early warning radar bases, intelligence gathering bases, massive air, sea and military bases. None of these are placed solely to benefit the host country. If the US lost access to these facilities then the threat to the US would literally be on their doorstep. It benefits them to be able to detect incoming missiles 3000 miles away rather than 300. Over the horizon radar and space based detection systems can offset this problem but the US could not afford to lose the security that having overseas bases provides.

The US needs to stay wary of Russia despite the seemingly current pally bromance under way. Trump may be happy to play his America first fantasy but needs to remember that it has always been Russia first under Czar, Socialism or Putin. Russia also is very good at playing the long game and is happy to wait out the US as they weaken alliances and piss off the rest of the world.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan 4 days ago

nearby

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan 4 days ago

nearby

Let’s see how Starmers ‘100 year UK pledge to support Ukraine’ works out now without USA

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By *mateur100 OP   Man 4 days ago

nr faversham


"People seem to forget that the Yanks are not "protecting" Europe or anyone else through some sort of amazing altruism. They have bases scattered across the globe to protect themselves back in the good old US of A. Early warning radar bases, intelligence gathering bases, massive air, sea and military bases. None of these are placed solely to benefit the host country. If the US lost access to these facilities then the threat to the US would literally be on their doorstep. It benefits them to be able to detect incoming missiles 3000 miles away rather than 300. Over the horizon radar and space based detection systems can offset this problem but the US could not afford to lose the security that having overseas bases provides.

The US needs to stay wary of Russia despite the seemingly current pally bromance under way. Trump may be happy to play his America first fantasy but needs to remember that it has always been Russia first under Czar, Socialism or Putin. Russia also is very good at playing the long game and is happy to wait out the US as they weaken alliances and piss off the rest of the world."

Fabulous insight, of course no European countries have any responsibility for their own borders

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By *mateur100 OP   Man 3 days ago

nr faversham

And now Russia won't accept NATO troops as a peace keeping force. If only European countries had spent some money on their military capabilities instead of relying on the us and spending all their money on humanitarian projects. Granted it's early days...

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By *amish SMan 3 days ago

Eastleigh


"And now Russia won't accept NATO troops as a peace keeping force. If only European countries had spent some money on their military capabilities instead of relying on the us and spending all their money on humanitarian projects. Granted it's early days..."

Not a problem, have you seen what arrived here in the last few days. It doesn't need to actually be on the ground in Ukraine.

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By *amish SMan 3 days ago

Eastleigh


"SKS thinks any Ukrainian peace deal must have a US backstop...nice of him to decide on behalf of the US. Alternatively, European countries could collectively sort out their own problems rather than rely on the States "

SKS didn't need to decide, I couldn't quite make out what he was saying for the noise coming down the various runways in the UK.

Looks like Tangoman already knows he's lost the negotiations with Russia, and is shuffling his military assets.

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By *idnight RamblerMan 2 days ago

Pershore

If anything needs a 'backstop' it's UK uncontrolled immigration and the 9.5 mil. living on state benefits.

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By *usie pTV/TS 2 days ago

taunton

Tango man lol, I damn near got to taking my telly in for repair because I thought there was something wrong with it, why the fook does he look like that, is it to bring attention.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan 2 days ago

nearby

‘Trump calls Zelenskyy a ‘dictator’ who should ‘move fast’ or lose country as row with Ukraine leader worsens’

I’ll give in a week maybe a fortnight before Trump ends support for Ukraine.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 2 days ago

Central


"And now Russia won't accept NATO troops as a peace keeping force. If only European countries had spent some money on their military capabilities instead of relying on the us and spending all their money on humanitarian projects. Granted it's early days..."

It's too early to get the aggressor detailing the outcome terms when the talks haven't started yet.

Trump is spouting off as if the war has ended and all that's happened is that Russia is no longer completely isolated

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