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By (user no longer on site) OP    1 week ago

Looks like the Umpalumpa in Chief is happy to shit on the rest of the world. This must be the new America First doctrine.

Putin must be laughing his cock off.

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By *estivalMan 1 week ago

borehamwood


"Looks like the Umpalumpa in Chief is happy to shit on the rest of the world. This must be the new America First doctrine.

Putin must be laughing his cock off."

are you surprised? He ran on america first, he is doing what he said he would

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By (user no longer on site) OP    1 week ago

Trouble with being an isolationist is that eventually it turns to paranoia and you think everyone is out ot get you.

Like it or not the way forward is through co-operation with other countries. Mutual respect and a shared set of values. The alternative is to end up like North Korea.

This policy will come back to bite the Americans if they are not careful.

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By *estivalMan 1 week ago

borehamwood


"Trouble with being an isolationist is that eventually it turns to paranoia and you think everyone is out ot get you.

Like it or not the way forward is through co-operation with other countries. Mutual respect and a shared set of values. The alternative is to end up like North Korea.

This policy will come back to bite the Americans if they are not careful."

hey they voted for it, i wouldnt worry yaself about it unless your american, they voted someone in and they knew exactly what he was going to do aint democracy great

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By (user no longer on site) OP    1 week ago

I think everyone everywhere needs to be worried. Yes the Americans voted him in but they may come to regret it. Also don't forget that the Germans voted Hitler into power and that didn't turn out too well for everyone.

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By *ostindreamsMan 1 week ago

London


"Trouble with being an isolationist is that eventually it turns to paranoia and you think everyone is out ot get you.

Like it or not the way forward is through co-operation with other countries. Mutual respect and a shared set of values. The alternative is to end up like North Korea.

This policy will come back to bite the Americans if they are not careful."

Mutual respect? Yes. Shared values? No. Different countries and cultures have different values. Do you prefer UK sharing its values with Saudi?

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan 1 week ago

nearby

Watching the bbc news it seems Trump is negotiating the Ukraine deal without consulting them first.

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By *melie LALWoman 1 week ago

Peterborough


"I think everyone everywhere needs to be worried. Yes the Americans voted him in but they may come to regret it. Also don't forget that the Germans voted Hitler into power and that didn't turn out too well for everyone."

Actually Hitler wasn't voted in.

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By *mateur100Man 1 week ago

nr faversham

Perhaps the European "powers" will stop relying on the US for security, they're not the world police despite popular opinion

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By *iman2100Man 1 week ago

Glasgow


"Looks like the Umpalumpa in Chief is happy to shit on the rest of the world. This must be the new America First doctrine.

Putin must be laughing his cock off.are you surprised? He ran on america first, he is doing what he said he would"

Trump is screwing America at the same time. He has no grasp of how to conduct international relationships.

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By *uffleskloofMan 1 week ago

Walsall


"Watching the bbc news it seems Trump is negotiating the Ukraine deal without consulting them first. "

Who should he consult? Zelensky’s term in office ran out a while back and they haven’t bothered to have another election so it’s not really clear who he represents.

Ultimately this was Biden’s war against Russia through Biden’s proxy Zelensky. Ukraine is just a US puppet state. Without US money it will collapse in a week.

It was inevitably going to end when the US got bored of it all. No doubt Zelensky will take his money and live quietly in Miami or Geneva (assuming he doesn’t get bumped off by his own side when he accepts the inevitable). Not so the hundreds of thousands of his compatriots he has sacrificed to no end.

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By *emma StonesTV/TS 1 week ago

Crewe

Fancy not having an election when your neighbours dropping bombs on your country daily.

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By *antam AvershiresMan 1 week ago

Falme


"Fancy not having an election when your neighbours dropping bombs on your country daily."

Yup, even the UK held the 1940 one off till peace time.

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By *uffleskloofMan 1 week ago

Walsall


"Fancy not having an election when your neighbours dropping bombs on your country daily."

It’s fine. Zelensky can carry on his war as long as he likes. He’ll just have to do it without US money.

Maybe Germany will step in to pick up the slack. Or Lammy: he is always talking tough on Russia. British people who want to increase funding to Ukraine could pay into a voluntary fund.

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By *estivalMan 1 week ago

borehamwood


"Fancy not having an election when your neighbours dropping bombs on your country daily."
they managed to hold elections in iraq when there were car bombs going off left right and centre, im sure if a third world shithole could manage it a non corrupt country like ukraine could manage it

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By *ornyinwexCouple 1 week ago

Wexford


"Fancy not having an election when your neighbours dropping bombs on your country daily.they managed to hold elections in iraq when there were car bombs going off left right and centre, im sure if a third world shithole could manage it a non corrupt country like ukraine could manage it"

Isn't Ukraine under martial law? Can't hole elections I believe.

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By *melie LALWoman 1 week ago

Peterborough


"Fancy not having an election when your neighbours dropping bombs on your country daily.they managed to hold elections in iraq when there were car bombs going off left right and centre, im sure if a third world shithole could manage it a non corrupt country like ukraine could manage it"

They are not a third word country. Do you want to be more judgemental?

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By *estivalMan 1 week ago

borehamwood


"Fancy not having an election when your neighbours dropping bombs on your country daily.they managed to hold elections in iraq when there were car bombs going off left right and centre, im sure if a third world shithole could manage it a non corrupt country like ukraine could manage it

They are not a third word country. Do you want to be more judgemental?"

what you dont think iraq is a third world country? And i will be as judgemental as i like thanks xx

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By *melie LALWoman 1 week ago

Peterborough


"Fancy not having an election when your neighbours dropping bombs on your country daily.they managed to hold elections in iraq when there were car bombs going off left right and centre, im sure if a third world shithole could manage it a non corrupt country like ukraine could manage it

They are not a third word country. Do you want to be more judgemental?what you dont think iraq is a third world country? And i will be as judgemental as i like thanks xx"

Nope

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan 1 week ago

Hastings


"Fancy not having an election when your neighbours dropping bombs on your country daily."

And a large number of the population has fled or are under occupation so it wold not be a fair Vote anyway.

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By *abioMan 7 days ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Trump getting really petty now…

Now bans the associated press (AP) from the White House and all press conferences because they decided to still call the “gulf of America “ the Gulf of Mexico… there reasoning being they are a worldwide organisation.. and the world has been calling it that for 400 years!

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By *melie LALWoman 7 days ago

Peterborough


"Trump getting really petty now…

Now bans the associated press (AP) from the White House and all press conferences because they decided to still call the “gulf of America “ the Gulf of Mexico… there reasoning being they are a worldwide organisation.. and the world has been calling it that for 400 years! "

😲 what an absolute tit (orange tit)

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By *uffleskloofMan 7 days ago

Walsall


"Trump getting really petty now…

Now bans the associated press (AP) from the White House and all press conferences because they decided to still call the “gulf of America “ the Gulf of Mexico… there reasoning being they are a worldwide organisation.. and the world has been calling it that for 400 years! "

Who are the Associated Press?

CNN….CBS….MSNBC….all the has beens that have spent years lying for the Biden regime.

Viewing figures in free fall.

Just like the BBC and Sky.

Good riddance.

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By (user no longer on site) OP    7 days ago

Latest madness from Trumptopia (new name for USA) is that a Republican lawmaker has started proceedings to have Greenland renamed as Red, White and Blueland following the annexation by America.

I jest not - look it up, just when you thought it could not get any madder.

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By *ellhungvweMan 7 days ago

Cheltenham

I don’t understand why everyone is getting so outraged at this “new” American foreign policy - it isn’t that new if you are the leader of a Central or South American country, most of South East Asia or a decent chunk of the Middle East in the past 40 years. The Americans have done pretty much whatever they have wanted to do, to whomever they have wanted to do it whenever they have wanted to do it in those countries.

The thing that is “new” now is that it is happening to us.

Welcome to the rest of the world.

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By *emma StonesTV/TS 7 days ago

Crewe


"I don’t understand why everyone is getting so outraged at this “new” American foreign policy - it isn’t that new if you are the leader of a Central or South American country, most of South East Asia or a decent chunk of the Middle East in the past 40 years. The Americans have done pretty much whatever they have wanted to do, to whomever they have wanted to do it whenever they have wanted to do it in those countries.

The thing that is “new” now is that it is happening to us.

Welcome to the rest of the world. "

And in those Middle Eastern countries we were actually supporting them.

Reading some of the comments on here I actually think some would cheer on Trump even if his policies damaged this country.

Patriots eh.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS 6 days ago

Bedford

Triumphant Trump or failure of Democrats handing it to him.

He's a no mess around guy, right or wrong the world needs a shake up.

It would be more palletable to some if he was less of a salesman, but he is a business man and to achieve a goal in business you get straight to the point.

Time is money, and time is running out.

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By *abioMan 6 days ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Trump getting really petty now…

Now bans the associated press (AP) from the White House and all press conferences because they decided to still call the “gulf of America “ the Gulf of Mexico… there reasoning being they are a worldwide organisation.. and the world has been calling it that for 400 years!

Who are the Associated Press?

CNN….CBS….MSNBC….all the has beens that have spent years lying for the Biden regime.

Viewing figures in free fall.

Just like the BBC and Sky.

Good riddance."

If you have to ask who the AP are, I suggest you not embarrass yourself by entering the conversation in the first place……

Please… stop embarrassing yourself!

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By *iman2100Man 3 days ago

Glasgow


"Looks like the Umpalumpa in Chief is happy to shit on the rest of the world. This must be the new America First doctrine.

Putin must be laughing his cock off.are you surprised? He ran on america first, he is doing what he said he would"

Judge him by his actions; not his sound bites. He is putting Oligarchs first, relationship with Putin first, not America.

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By *ild_oatsMan 3 days ago

the land of saints & sinners

Donald Trump praised authoritarian rulers 15 times during his last presidency

Bullies tend to flock to other bullies.

So it’s no surprise that this foreign policy is about cozying up to Putin. Rather than standing up to him and doing what is right.

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By *enSiskoMan 3 days ago

Cestus 3

Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

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By *abioMan 3 days ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Donald Trump praised authoritarian rulers 15 times during his last presidency

Bullies tend to flock to other bullies.

So it’s no surprise that this foreign policy is about cozying up to Putin. Rather than standing up to him and doing what is right.

"

Well if you think about who it was.. it was Putin, Orban, Xi, leader of the Philippines, El Salvador ect…

Anyway interesting tariffs update last night… the reciprocal tariffs will include any country that has a version of VAT included on American products whether that is also applied domestically or not…

Which means the uk is going to be on the list…

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By *abioMan 3 days ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart."

But trumps stance for example on Canada and his continuing comments are back firing big time…. American products sales are tanking, also tourism is dropping… Canadian tourism to America accounts for a lot, and it’s down by about 10-15% so far and will likely only get worse….

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By *enSiskoMan 3 days ago

Cestus 3


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

But trumps stance for example on Canada and his continuing comments are back firing big time…. American products sales are tanking, also tourism is dropping… Canadian tourism to America accounts for a lot, and it’s down by about 10-15% so far and will likely only get worse…."

I am not a trump supporter, I support no politician who says "grab them by the pussy"

What I am saying is that trump has torn the old narrative apart, which he did last time in office, I see that he is not playing the game, and this is p1ssing off other so called leaders as their narrative is lost.

War is stopping as it did on his last term.

Our leaders meet to discuss how to carry on making money from this war, thus exposing them for people who want war so they can profit from it.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan 3 days ago

nearby

Not a fan but if he ends the Ukrainian war hats off to him.

Europe won’t be stepping up for Ukraine that is for sure.

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By *iman2100Man 3 days ago

Glasgow


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart."

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

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By *mateur100Man 3 days ago

nr faversham


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called" "

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

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By *abioMan 3 days ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it. "

A) Trump is saying defence spending should be at 5% of GDP, yet at most under the last trump administration it was 3% (it now stands at 3.3%)

B) there are NATO countries that do spend more than 3.3%…… Poland spends 4.1%, Estonia and Latvia spend 3.7%

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By *mateur100Man 3 days ago

nr faversham


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

A) Trump is saying defence spending should be at 5% of GDP, yet at most under the last trump administration it was 3% (it now stands at 3.3%)

B) there are NATO countries that do spend more than 3.3%…… Poland spends 4.1%, Estonia and Latvia spend 3.7%

"

A) the US has been supporting NATO for the last 50 years, nevermind policing the rest of the world

B) that's 3 out of 32 I think, hardly a ringing endorsement especially when the big economies are involved

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By *abioMan 3 days ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

A) Trump is saying defence spending should be at 5% of GDP, yet at most under the last trump administration it was 3% (it now stands at 3.3%)

B) there are NATO countries that do spend more than 3.3%…… Poland spends 4.1%, Estonia and Latvia spend 3.7%

A) the US has been supporting NATO for the last 50 years, nevermind policing the rest of the world

B) that's 3 out of 32 I think, hardly a ringing endorsement especially when the big economies are involved "

…. And when the US invoked article 5 after 9/11 you did not see 1 nato country flinch in helping them in one of their greatest times of need

Well NATO’s minimum recommended spending is 2% of GDP..

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By *mateur100Man 3 days ago

nr faversham


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

A) Trump is saying defence spending should be at 5% of GDP, yet at most under the last trump administration it was 3% (it now stands at 3.3%)

B) there are NATO countries that do spend more than 3.3%…… Poland spends 4.1%, Estonia and Latvia spend 3.7%

A) the US has been supporting NATO for the last 50 years, nevermind policing the rest of the world

B) that's 3 out of 32 I think, hardly a ringing endorsement especially when the big economies are involved

…. And when the US invoked article 5 after 9/11 you did not see 1 nato country flinch in helping them in one of their greatest times of need

Well NATO’s minimum recommended spending is 2% of GDP.. "

Nobody thinks 2% is enough because it isn't. If trump's method brings the reality home, so be it.

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By *abioMan 3 days ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

A) Trump is saying defence spending should be at 5% of GDP, yet at most under the last trump administration it was 3% (it now stands at 3.3%)

B) there are NATO countries that do spend more than 3.3%…… Poland spends 4.1%, Estonia and Latvia spend 3.7%

A) the US has been supporting NATO for the last 50 years, nevermind policing the rest of the world

B) that's 3 out of 32 I think, hardly a ringing endorsement especially when the big economies are involved

…. And when the US invoked article 5 after 9/11 you did not see 1 nato country flinch in helping them in one of their greatest times of need

Well NATO’s minimum recommended spending is 2% of GDP..

Nobody thinks 2% is enough because it isn't. If trump's method brings the reality home, so be it. "

And now trump just claimed in his news conference that Ukraine started the war with Russia…..

So well done, let history decide which side you were on… bravo I applaud you!

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By *mateur100Man 3 days ago

nr faversham


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

A) Trump is saying defence spending should be at 5% of GDP, yet at most under the last trump administration it was 3% (it now stands at 3.3%)

B) there are NATO countries that do spend more than 3.3%…… Poland spends 4.1%, Estonia and Latvia spend 3.7%

A) the US has been supporting NATO for the last 50 years, nevermind policing the rest of the world

B) that's 3 out of 32 I think, hardly a ringing endorsement especially when the big economies are involved

…. And when the US invoked article 5 after 9/11 you did not see 1 nato country flinch in helping them in one of their greatest times of need

Well NATO’s minimum recommended spending is 2% of GDP..

Nobody thinks 2% is enough because it isn't. If trump's method brings the reality home, so be it.

And now trump just claimed in his news conference that Ukraine started the war with Russia…..

So well done, let history decide which side you were on… bravo I applaud you! "

Usual trump bluster as well you know. The fact is that Europe has been grossly negligent in it's defence policy since the second world war, instead Relying on the US. If you can show me that is incorrect, I will happily apologise

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By *mateur100Man 3 days ago

nr faversham


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

A) Trump is saying defence spending should be at 5% of GDP, yet at most under the last trump administration it was 3% (it now stands at 3.3%)

B) there are NATO countries that do spend more than 3.3%…… Poland spends 4.1%, Estonia and Latvia spend 3.7%

A) the US has been supporting NATO for the last 50 years, nevermind policing the rest of the world

B) that's 3 out of 32 I think, hardly a ringing endorsement especially when the big economies are involved

…. And when the US invoked article 5 after 9/11 you did not see 1 nato country flinch in helping them in one of their greatest times of need

Well NATO’s minimum recommended spending is 2% of GDP..

Nobody thinks 2% is enough because it isn't. If trump's method brings the reality home, so be it.

And now trump just claimed in his news conference that Ukraine started the war with Russia…..

So well done, let history decide which side you were on… bravo I applaud you!

Usual trump bluster as well you know. The fact is that Europe has been grossly negligent in it's defence policy since the second world war, instead Relying on the US. If you can show me that is incorrect, I will happily apologise "

Trump also said if European countries want to send in troops that's fine... that's the whole point, because they won't without US backing

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By *ild_oatsMan 3 days ago

the land of saints & sinners


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart."

Because some leader changes the narrative or decides to tear up the norms doesn’t mean that is the right thing or way to go about things.

Donald Trump at heart is a real estate mogul and for him it’s about the deal and look at me I’m so great.

Whilst Putin is KGB trained so for him it’s about the long game and how he can play European allies and the US off against each other and cause division.

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By *amish SMan 3 days ago

Eastleigh


"Trouble with being an isolationist is that eventually it turns to paranoia and you think everyone is out ot get you.

Like it or not the way forward is through co-operation with other countries. Mutual respect and a shared set of values. The alternative is to end up like North Korea.

This policy will come back to bite the Americans if they are not careful.hey they voted for it, i wouldnt worry yaself about it unless your american, they voted someone in and they knew exactly what he was going to do aint democracy great"

Even those who voted for him and got deported, says it all about his supporters.

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By *amish SMan 3 days ago

Eastleigh


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

A) Trump is saying defence spending should be at 5% of GDP, yet at most under the last trump administration it was 3% (it now stands at 3.3%)

B) there are NATO countries that do spend more than 3.3%…… Poland spends 4.1%, Estonia and Latvia spend 3.7%

A) the US has been supporting NATO for the last 50 years, nevermind policing the rest of the world

B) that's 3 out of 32 I think, hardly a ringing endorsement especially when the big economies are involved

…. And when the US invoked article 5 after 9/11 you did not see 1 nato country flinch in helping them in one of their greatest times of need

Well NATO’s minimum recommended spending is 2% of GDP..

Nobody thinks 2% is enough because it isn't. If trump's method brings the reality home, so be it.

And now trump just claimed in his news conference that Ukraine started the war with Russia…..

So well done, let history decide which side you were on… bravo I applaud you!

Usual trump bluster as well you know. The fact is that Europe has been grossly negligent in it's defence policy since the second world war, instead Relying on the US. If you can show me that is incorrect, I will happily apologise "

The USA defence budget was not an issue when it wanted to be the world police, now it can't afford it, then it's everyone one else's fault.

So which part of Europe is at fault, considering Europe has changed politically in a massive way since 1945, and in 1989 and the early '90s to tarnish the Europe we have today is a bit harsh.

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By *estivalMan 3 days ago

borehamwood


"Trouble with being an isolationist is that eventually it turns to paranoia and you think everyone is out ot get you.

Like it or not the way forward is through co-operation with other countries. Mutual respect and a shared set of values. The alternative is to end up like North Korea.

This policy will come back to bite the Americans if they are not careful.hey they voted for it, i wouldnt worry yaself about it unless your american, they voted someone in and they knew exactly what he was going to do aint democracy great

Even those who voted for him and got deported, says it all about his supporters."

thats democracy for you, everybody gets a vote, he was pretty opsn about what he was gona do if he got in, more peoole were ok with it than weren't

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By *mateur100Man 3 days ago

nr faversham


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

A) Trump is saying defence spending should be at 5% of GDP, yet at most under the last trump administration it was 3% (it now stands at 3.3%)

B) there are NATO countries that do spend more than 3.3%…… Poland spends 4.1%, Estonia and Latvia spend 3.7%

A) the US has been supporting NATO for the last 50 years, nevermind policing the rest of the world

B) that's 3 out of 32 I think, hardly a ringing endorsement especially when the big economies are involved

…. And when the US invoked article 5 after 9/11 you did not see 1 nato country flinch in helping them in one of their greatest times of need

Well NATO’s minimum recommended spending is 2% of GDP..

Nobody thinks 2% is enough because it isn't. If trump's method brings the reality home, so be it.

And now trump just claimed in his news conference that Ukraine started the war with Russia…..

So well done, let history decide which side you were on… bravo I applaud you!

Usual trump bluster as well you know. The fact is that Europe has been grossly negligent in it's defence policy since the second world war, instead Relying on the US. If you can show me that is incorrect, I will happily apologise

The USA defence budget was not an issue when it wanted to be the world police, now it can't afford it, then it's everyone one else's fault.

So which part of Europe is at fault, considering Europe has changed politically in a massive way since 1945, and in 1989 and the early '90s to tarnish the Europe we have today is a bit harsh."

The first duty of any government is the defence of its people

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By *iman2100Man 3 days ago

Glasgow


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it. "

Europe has some very good leaders. The US has an incompetent fool, who has no idea how to govern a country. So, by your definition, DJ Trump is a "so called" leader.

"Most political thinkers and voters" Where did that jem come from? Trump? Vance? Musk, Fox or OAN?- Whatever he is trying to acheive he is overstepping his authority and being gaslighted by his BBF Elon.

Musk has closed government departments looking into his companies, shut desperately needed foreign aid and shut down the banking watchdog that protected the ordinary Americans from corporate fraud. He is looking into making huge cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. I suspect even some of the MAGA cult members are wondering how this is helping them.

Trump has said, despite telling his followers hundreds of times he would reduce the prices of groceries, that there is nothing he can do so suck it up!. He has granted amnesty to the NY mayor Adams that has resulted in the resignation of 7 career prosecutors who refused to carry out Trump's instruction.

The US was all too happy to offer to keep Europe safe after ww2. They did not want, until Trump buddied up with Putin, Russia rolling over Europe and up to the English chanel. Now Trump wants things easier for his buddy so Trump is picking a fight with Europe and not to forget, Canada, Mexico, Denmark, China, South Africa, Brazil, India, Saudia Arabia and Panama. Soon the USA will have no friends left and a load of ex Allies who see the US as unreliable with a promise that means nothing.

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By *estivalMan 2 days ago

borehamwood


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

Europe has some very good leaders. The US has an incompetent fool, who has no idea how to govern a country. So, by your definition, DJ Trump is a "so called" leader.

"Most political thinkers and voters" Where did that jem come from? Trump? Vance? Musk, Fox or OAN?- Whatever he is trying to acheive he is overstepping his authority and being gaslighted by his BBF Elon.

Musk has closed government departments looking into his companies, shut desperately needed foreign aid and shut down the banking watchdog that protected the ordinary Americans from corporate fraud. He is looking into making huge cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. I suspect even some of the MAGA cult members are wondering how this is helping them.

Trump has said, despite telling his followers hundreds of times he would reduce the prices of groceries, that there is nothing he can do so suck it up!. He has granted amnesty to the NY mayor Adams that has resulted in the resignation of 7 career prosecutors who refused to carry out Trump's instruction.

The US was all too happy to offer to keep Europe safe after ww2. They did not want, until Trump buddied up with Putin, Russia rolling over Europe and up to the English chanel. Now Trump wants things easier for his buddy so Trump is picking a fight with Europe and not to forget, Canada, Mexico, Denmark, China, South Africa, Brazil, India, Saudia Arabia and Panama. Soon the USA will have no friends left and a load of ex Allies who see the US as unreliable with a promise that means nothing."

wow that was a big anti trump rant lol where are you getting all this info from lol

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By *enSiskoMan 1 day ago

Cestus 3


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called" "

If I want to say "so called" then that is what I will do.

What is successful about war, what is successful about killing others.

What is wrong with peace.

Finally what is wrong with you.

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By *enSiskoMan 1 day ago

Cestus 3


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

Because some leader changes the narrative or decides to tear up the norms doesn’t mean that is the right thing or way to go about things.

Donald Trump at heart is a real estate mogul and for him it’s about the deal and look at me I’m so great.

Whilst Putin is KGB trained so for him it’s about the long game and how he can play European allies and the US off against each other and cause division."

Some watch yourself I got told off for saying some leader.

I said before trump got in office that he would change the narrative, in doing so he has exposed western leaders so called I may add for who they are.

And he is saying no more look after your own mess after I take America out, all of Europe will still buy American weapon systems including Britian

Now if Britian and France want to carry on killing Russian and Ukrainian people for profit well then carry on for all to see.

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By *uffleskloofMan 1 day ago

Walsall


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

Europe has some very good leaders. The US has an incompetent fool, who has no idea how to govern a country. So, by your definition, DJ Trump is a "so called" leader.

"Most political thinkers and voters" Where did that jem come from? Trump? Vance? Musk, Fox or OAN?- Whatever he is trying to acheive he is overstepping his authority and being gaslighted by his BBF Elon.

Musk has closed government departments looking into his companies, shut desperately needed foreign aid and shut down the banking watchdog that protected the ordinary Americans from corporate fraud. He is looking into making huge cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. I suspect even some of the MAGA cult members are wondering how this is helping them.

Trump has said, despite telling his followers hundreds of times he would reduce the prices of groceries, that there is nothing he can do so suck it up!. He has granted amnesty to the NY mayor Adams that has resulted in the resignation of 7 career prosecutors who refused to carry out Trump's instruction.

The US was all too happy to offer to keep Europe safe after ww2. They did not want, until Trump buddied up with Putin, Russia rolling over Europe and up to the English chanel. Now Trump wants things easier for his buddy so Trump is picking a fight with Europe and not to forget, Canada, Mexico, Denmark, China, South Africa, Brazil, India, Saudia Arabia and Panama. Soon the USA will have no friends left and a load of ex Allies who see the US as unreliable with a promise that means nothing."

The US has always been unreliable. Afghanistan. Libya. Syria. Iraq. No idea why anyone is surprised by what is happening.

Eventually the US gets bored and moves on. Once again the UK and EU just look like naive dupes.

As for Trump his polling and popularity are looking good in the US. The electorate is pretty approving so far.

Maybe compare his popularity in the US to the popularity of these “very good leaders” in Europe. Starmer’s personal polling is awful and getting us involved in a war with Russia isn’t going to improve things.

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By *ild_oatsMan 1 day ago

the land of saints & sinners

With the latest announcements from the DJT.

Zelensky being a dictator

Russia holding all the cards

That he trusts Russia

Donald Trump is either a brilliant negotiator.

Or

Is a self serving fool who has no real clue about international affairs.

I don’t think it’s the former…. But I’ll let you decide…

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By *iman2100Man 22 hours ago

Glasgow


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

Europe has some very good leaders. The US has an incompetent fool, who has no idea how to govern a country. So, by your definition, DJ Trump is a "so called" leader.

"Most political thinkers and voters" Where did that jem come from? Trump? Vance? Musk, Fox or OAN?- Whatever he is trying to acheive he is overstepping his authority and being gaslighted by his BBF Elon.

Musk has closed government departments looking into his companies, shut desperately needed foreign aid and shut down the banking watchdog that protected the ordinary Americans from corporate fraud. He is looking into making huge cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. I suspect even some of the MAGA cult members are wondering how this is helping them.

Trump has said, despite telling his followers hundreds of times he would reduce the prices of groceries, that there is nothing he can do so suck it up!. He has granted amnesty to the NY mayor Adams that has resulted in the resignation of 7 career prosecutors who refused to carry out Trump's instruction.

The US was all too happy to offer to keep Europe safe after ww2. They did not want, until Trump buddied up with Putin, Russia rolling over Europe and up to the English chanel. Now Trump wants things easier for his buddy so Trump is picking a fight with Europe and not to forget, Canada, Mexico, Denmark, China, South Africa, Brazil, India, Saudia Arabia and Panama. Soon the USA will have no friends left and a load of ex Allies who see the US as unreliable with a promise that means nothing.wow that was a big anti trump rant lol where are you getting all this info from lol"

Which specific elements are untrue?

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By *iman2100Man 22 hours ago

Glasgow


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

Europe has some very good leaders. The US has an incompetent fool, who has no idea how to govern a country. So, by your definition, DJ Trump is a "so called" leader.

"Most political thinkers and voters" Where did that jem come from? Trump? Vance? Musk, Fox or OAN?- Whatever he is trying to acheive he is overstepping his authority and being gaslighted by his BBF Elon.

Musk has closed government departments looking into his companies, shut desperately needed foreign aid and shut down the banking watchdog that protected the ordinary Americans from corporate fraud. He is looking into making huge cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. I suspect even some of the MAGA cult members are wondering how this is helping them.

Trump has said, despite telling his followers hundreds of times he would reduce the prices of groceries, that there is nothing he can do so suck it up!. He has granted amnesty to the NY mayor Adams that has resulted in the resignation of 7 career prosecutors who refused to carry out Trump's instruction.

The US was all too happy to offer to keep Europe safe after ww2. They did not want, until Trump buddied up with Putin, Russia rolling over Europe and up to the English chanel. Now Trump wants things easier for his buddy so Trump is picking a fight with Europe and not to forget, Canada, Mexico, Denmark, China, South Africa, Brazil, India, Saudia Arabia and Panama. Soon the USA will have no friends left and a load of ex Allies who see the US as unreliable with a promise that means nothing.

The US has always been unreliable. Afghanistan. Libya. Syria. Iraq. No idea why anyone is surprised by what is happening.

Eventually the US gets bored and moves on. Once again the UK and EU just look like naive dupes.

As for Trump his polling and popularity are looking good in the US. The electorate is pretty approving so far.

Maybe compare his popularity in the US to the popularity of these “very good leaders” in Europe. Starmer’s personal polling is awful and getting us involved in a war with Russia isn’t going to improve things."

The anti-Starmer trolling started, literally, on the day he took office. He had not even spent a single day in Downing Street. Let us see what happens but one thing is for certain. The best way to govern a country is not to ask the people if they like the leader. Brexit and Trump are perfect examples of that.

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By *otlovefun42Couple 21 hours ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Fancy not having an election when your neighbours dropping bombs on your country daily.

It’s fine. Zelensky can carry on his war as long as he likes. He’ll just have to do it without US money.

Maybe Germany will step in to pick up the slack. Or Lammy: he is always talking tough on Russia. British people who want to increase funding to Ukraine could pay into a voluntary fund."

Lammy? At the moment Britain couldn't pick up a bar tab.

And as for the Germans, forget it. Scholtz will be political toast on Monday Morning.

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By *estivalMan 21 hours ago

borehamwood


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

Europe has some very good leaders. The US has an incompetent fool, who has no idea how to govern a country. So, by your definition, DJ Trump is a "so called" leader.

"Most political thinkers and voters" Where did that jem come from? Trump? Vance? Musk, Fox or OAN?- Whatever he is trying to acheive he is overstepping his authority and being gaslighted by his BBF Elon.

Musk has closed government departments looking into his companies, shut desperately needed foreign aid and shut down the banking watchdog that protected the ordinary Americans from corporate fraud. He is looking into making huge cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. I suspect even some of the MAGA cult members are wondering how this is helping them.

Trump has said, despite telling his followers hundreds of times he would reduce the prices of groceries, that there is nothing he can do so suck it up!. He has granted amnesty to the NY mayor Adams that has resulted in the resignation of 7 career prosecutors who refused to carry out Trump's instruction.

The US was all too happy to offer to keep Europe safe after ww2. They did not want, until Trump buddied up with Putin, Russia rolling over Europe and up to the English chanel. Now Trump wants things easier for his buddy so Trump is picking a fight with Europe and not to forget, Canada, Mexico, Denmark, China, South Africa, Brazil, India, Saudia Arabia and Panama. Soon the USA will have no friends left and a load of ex Allies who see the US as unreliable with a promise that means nothing.wow that was a big anti trump rant lol where are you getting all this info from lol

Which specific elements are untrue? "

pretty much everything you post is opinion

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By *estivalMan 21 hours ago

borehamwood


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

Europe has some very good leaders. The US has an incompetent fool, who has no idea how to govern a country. So, by your definition, DJ Trump is a "so called" leader.

"Most political thinkers and voters" Where did that jem come from? Trump? Vance? Musk, Fox or OAN?- Whatever he is trying to acheive he is overstepping his authority and being gaslighted by his BBF Elon.

Musk has closed government departments looking into his companies, shut desperately needed foreign aid and shut down the banking watchdog that protected the ordinary Americans from corporate fraud. He is looking into making huge cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. I suspect even some of the MAGA cult members are wondering how this is helping them.

Trump has said, despite telling his followers hundreds of times he would reduce the prices of groceries, that there is nothing he can do so suck it up!. He has granted amnesty to the NY mayor Adams that has resulted in the resignation of 7 career prosecutors who refused to carry out Trump's instruction.

The US was all too happy to offer to keep Europe safe after ww2. They did not want, until Trump buddied up with Putin, Russia rolling over Europe and up to the English chanel. Now Trump wants things easier for his buddy so Trump is picking a fight with Europe and not to forget, Canada, Mexico, Denmark, China, South Africa, Brazil, India, Saudia Arabia and Panama. Soon the USA will have no friends left and a load of ex Allies who see the US as unreliable with a promise that means nothing.

The US has always been unreliable. Afghanistan. Libya. Syria. Iraq. No idea why anyone is surprised by what is happening.

Eventually the US gets bored and moves on. Once again the UK and EU just look like naive dupes.

As for Trump his polling and popularity are looking good in the US. The electorate is pretty approving so far.

Maybe compare his popularity in the US to the popularity of these “very good leaders” in Europe. Starmer’s personal polling is awful and getting us involved in a war with Russia isn’t going to improve things.

The anti-Starmer trolling started, literally, on the day he took office. He had not even spent a single day in Downing Street. Let us see what happens but one thing is for certain. The best way to govern a country is not to ask the people if they like the leader. Brexit and Trump are perfect examples of that. "

ah so votes that dont go the way you would like them to are wrong and i bet you say you belive in democracy lol

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By *iman2100Man 17 hours ago

Glasgow


"Trump has changed the narrative and has shown he will not be messed with.

It is interesting other so called leaders trying to keep the old narrative going but trump just keeps tearing it apart.

So just because he is different Trump is right? Just because others wish to follow a path shown to be successful over many generations; they must be wrong?

Weird logic.

And please, please, stop trying to demean people by calling them "so called"

So called leaders are referred to in that manner due to their poor leadership.

Trump is merely doing what most political thinkers and voters in the US want. Europe has relied upon the US military for security whilst funding it's own humanitarian policies since the end of the second world war. It's about time the "leaders"of Europe realised it, accepted it and funded it.

Europe has some very good leaders. The US has an incompetent fool, who has no idea how to govern a country. So, by your definition, DJ Trump is a "so called" leader.

"Most political thinkers and voters" Where did that jem come from? Trump? Vance? Musk, Fox or OAN?- Whatever he is trying to acheive he is overstepping his authority and being gaslighted by his BBF Elon.

Musk has closed government departments looking into his companies, shut desperately needed foreign aid and shut down the banking watchdog that protected the ordinary Americans from corporate fraud. He is looking into making huge cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. I suspect even some of the MAGA cult members are wondering how this is helping them.

Trump has said, despite telling his followers hundreds of times he would reduce the prices of groceries, that there is nothing he can do so suck it up!. He has granted amnesty to the NY mayor Adams that has resulted in the resignation of 7 career prosecutors who refused to carry out Trump's instruction.

The US was all too happy to offer to keep Europe safe after ww2. They did not want, until Trump buddied up with Putin, Russia rolling over Europe and up to the English chanel. Now Trump wants things easier for his buddy so Trump is picking a fight with Europe and not to forget, Canada, Mexico, Denmark, China, South Africa, Brazil, India, Saudia Arabia and Panama. Soon the USA will have no friends left and a load of ex Allies who see the US as unreliable with a promise that means nothing.wow that was a big anti trump rant lol where are you getting all this info from lol

Which specific elements are untrue? pretty much everything you post is opinion"

Interesting. That is of course Your Opinion. Which I do not agree with.

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