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"Is it only me or do others find Donald Trump to be a windbag? It's always grabbing on trying to make things sound dramatic or Over the top exciting."
I think the word you're looking for is psychopath, not windbag.
Cunt also fits, but isn't something you can get psychologically diagnosed as |
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I was at a conference last year and one of the key note speakers was an advisor during Trump's first term. The exact words she used to describe his administration was a "raging dumpster fire of absolute crazy".
I've never heard anything that sounds so accurate in my life |
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"Is it only me or do others find Donald Trump to be a windbag? It's always grabbing on trying to make things sound dramatic or Over the top exciting.
I think the word you're looking for is psychopath, not windbag.
Cunt also fits, but isn't something you can get psychologically diagnosed as"
I advise reading anything by Kevin Dutton and you'll realise he's not a psychopath but something very different but equally potentially dangerous.
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"Is it only me or do others find Donald Trump to be a windbag? It's always grabbing on trying to make things sound dramatic or Over the top exciting.
I think the word you're looking for is psychopath, not windbag.
Cunt also fits, but isn't something you can get psychologically diagnosed as
I advise reading anything by Kevin Dutton and you'll realise he's not a psychopath but something very different but equally potentially dangerous.
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He's more a sociopath than a psychopath I think |
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"Is it only me or do others find Donald Trump to be a windbag? It's always grabbing on trying to make things sound dramatic or Over the top exciting.
I think the word you're looking for is psychopath, not windbag.
Cunt also fits, but isn't something you can get psychologically diagnosed as
I advise reading anything by Kevin Dutton and you'll realise he's not a psychopath but something very different but equally potentially dangerous.
He's more a sociopath than a psychopath I think "
The strange thing I find is the number of normally sensible people who think of him as intelligent, or that he has leadership qualities, or he can fix things like the economy or international affairs.
I must have been looking at a very different trump for last decade or so.
It's a reflection on not just the people who voted for him, but those trying to suck up to an obvious sociopath, from David lammy, Peter mandelson & Keir starmer to those who want to normalise someone, whose been an apple short of a fruit salad for a long time.
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"Wow just listened to his press conference where he has just blamed the helicopter/plane crash on diversity! "
That's just insane, not to mention unprofessional and irresponsible. Shooting from the hip like this is not a good look for a man with the nuclear suitcase.
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"Wow just listened to his press conference where he has just blamed the helicopter/plane crash on diversity!
That's just insane, not to mention unprofessional and irresponsible. Shooting from the hip like this is not a good look for a man with the nuclear suitcase.
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Well as he's pretty much ripped out the entire management and safety team of the air traffic and safety departments this week, he needs to blame someone else  |
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"Wow just listened to his press conference where he has just blamed the helicopter/plane crash on diversity!
That's just insane, not to mention unprofessional and irresponsible. Shooting from the hip like this is not a good look for a man with the nuclear suitcase.
Well as he's pretty much ripped out the entire management and safety team of the air traffic and safety departments this week, he needs to blame someone else "
Indeed. Should the investigation find the helicopter pilot at fault, what then?
Obviously, it might not, but if it does? Refusal to accept the truth?
Wouldn't be unusual for him - or his devotees. That's the most dangerous thing about him and them.
An unwillingness to accept facts they don't like and a desire to distort reality accordingly. |
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"The trouble is we might think Trump is talking deranged bollocks but most Americans will believe it to be true. After all he is Gods chosen one."
I have visited the USA several times and had great conversations with Americans. So many of them, of both Republican and Democrat leanings, are basically good people but what I find is a common thread running between them all.
They all have been affected by the all pervasive propaganda pumped out from cradle to grave that America is the greatest country on Earth. There is a naivety in that belief that tends to dismiss the reality of their situation and cling to religion and demigods like Trump. Trump's is a sociopath, his second term will be a very painful lesson for most of those blind believers. |
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Robert Reich
American News x
Heather Cox Richardson
These are fantastic sources on Facebook. Worth following to see what's going on. Incredible stuff.
(You younger folk may not be on Facebook of course ) |
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By *otMe66Man 5 weeks ago
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"The trouble is we might think Trump is talking deranged bollocks but most Americans will believe it to be true. After all he is Gods chosen one.
I have visited the USA several times and had great conversations with Americans. So many of them, of both Republican and Democrat leanings, are basically good people but what I find is a common thread running between them all.
They all have been affected by the all pervasive propaganda pumped out from cradle to grave that America is the greatest country on Earth. There is a naivety in that belief that tends to dismiss the reality of their situation and cling to religion and demigods like Trump. Trump's is a sociopath, his second term will be a very painful lesson for most of those blind believers."
What is the reality of their situation? |
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"Is it only me or do others find Donald Trump to be a windbag? It's always grabbing on trying to make things sound dramatic or Over the top exciting."
So America elects a windbag to replace a sleeping bag.
Next up a bag lady? |
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By *end1Man 5 weeks ago
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"The trouble is we might think Trump is talking deranged bollocks but most Americans will believe it to be true. After all he is Gods chosen one.
I have visited the USA several times and had great conversations with Americans. So many of them, of both Republican and Democrat leanings, are basically good people but what I find is a common thread running between them all.
They all have been affected by the all pervasive propaganda pumped out from cradle to grave that America is the greatest country on Earth. There is a naivety in that belief that tends to dismiss the reality of their situation and cling to religion and demigods like Trump. Trump's is a sociopath, his second term will be a very painful lesson for most of those blind believers."
I always laugh when they claim to be the world champions of American football or baseball 😂😂 |
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"The trouble is we might think Trump is talking deranged bollocks but most Americans will believe it to be true. After all he is Gods chosen one.
I have visited the USA several times and had great conversations with Americans. So many of them, of both Republican and Democrat leanings, are basically good people but what I find is a common thread running between them all.
They all have been affected by the all pervasive propaganda pumped out from cradle to grave that America is the greatest country on Earth. There is a naivety in that belief that tends to dismiss the reality of their situation and cling to religion and demigods like Trump. Trump's is a sociopath, his second term will be a very painful lesson for most of those blind believers. I always laugh when they claim to be the world champions of American football or baseball 😂😂"
I think they are refrencing The New World
which the Americas got labelled years ago. As the rest of the big world doesn't participate in those sports, they can't win and be named champions.
The World Cup tends to address this so everyone has a chance to be a champion of a sport.
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By *ild_oatsMan 5 weeks ago
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Whilst on the surface DT looks like an orange fool.
His multitude of executive orders are designed to sow chaos and confusion. That way he can baffle his political opponents and usurp democratic institutions and process in America to create an oligarchy where he has total power.
Tyrants don’t come to power through armed struggle. They use charm, lies, false hopes and promises by tell people who initially vote for them the things that they want to hear.
They fill the positions of state with lackeys who worship every word they say. Dissenting voices are hounded out of office and persecuted…
Can’t really imagine DT accepting being voted out of office in 4 years time…. There are already proposals to change the 14th Amendment of the constitution so that he can serve more than two terms. |
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"The trouble is we might think Trump is talking deranged bollocks but most Americans will believe it to be true. After all he is Gods chosen one.
I have visited the USA several times and had great conversations with Americans. So many of them, of both Republican and Democrat leanings, are basically good people but what I find is a common thread running between them all.
They all have been affected by the all pervasive propaganda pumped out from cradle to grave that America is the greatest country on Earth. There is a naivety in that belief that tends to dismiss the reality of their situation and cling to religion and demigods like Trump. Trump's is a sociopath, his second term will be a very painful lesson for most of those blind believers. I always laugh when they claim to be the world champions of American football or baseball 😂😂"
Well they are certainly not world champions of keeping planes in the air. |
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By *end1Man 5 weeks ago
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"Whilst on the surface DT looks like an orange fool.
His multitude of executive orders are designed to sow chaos and confusion. That way he can baffle his political opponents and usurp democratic institutions and process in America to create an oligarchy where he has total power.
Tyrants don’t come to power through armed struggle. They use charm, lies, false hopes and promises by tell people who initially vote for them the things that they want to hear.
They fill the positions of state with lackeys who worship every word they say. Dissenting voices are hounded out of office and persecuted…
Can’t really imagine DT accepting being voted out of office in 4 years time…. There are already proposals to change the 14th Amendment of the constitution so that he can serve more than two terms."
I said this couple of weeks ago I wouldn't be surprised if trump is looking for a way to stay in power. |
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By *I TwoCouple 4 weeks ago
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"Whilst on the surface DT looks like an orange fool.
His multitude of executive orders are designed to sow chaos and confusion. That way he can baffle his political opponents and usurp democratic institutions and process in America to create an oligarchy where he has total power.
Tyrants don’t come to power through armed struggle. They use charm, lies, false hopes and promises by tell people who initially vote for them the things that they want to hear.
They fill the positions of state with lackeys who worship every word they say. Dissenting voices are hounded out of office and persecuted…
Can’t really imagine DT accepting being voted out of office in 4 years time…. There are already proposals to change the 14th Amendment of the constitution so that he can serve more than two terms. I said this couple of weeks ago I wouldn't be surprised if trump is looking for a way to stay in power."
Hopefully he won't make it to the end of his 4 years |
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By *otMe66Man 4 weeks ago
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"Whilst on the surface DT looks like an orange fool.
His multitude of executive orders are designed to sow chaos and confusion. That way he can baffle his political opponents and usurp democratic institutions and process in America to create an oligarchy where he has total power.
Tyrants don’t come to power through armed struggle. They use charm, lies, false hopes and promises by tell people who initially vote for them the things that they want to hear.
They fill the positions of state with lackeys who worship every word they say. Dissenting voices are hounded out of office and persecuted…
Can’t really imagine DT accepting being voted out of office in 4 years time…. There are already proposals to change the 14th Amendment of the constitution so that he can serve more than two terms. I said this couple of weeks ago I wouldn't be surprised if trump is looking for a way to stay in power.
Hopefully he won't make it to the end of his 4 years "
How do you hope he end his term early, and what benefits would that bring the US who support this mans as their leader? |
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So much anti Trump poop posted here by leftists and probable Guardian readers.
I don’t think he will bother trying to make is possible for him to stand again. I think he might be fashioning his son to succeed him as leader of the Republicans. It’s nepotism, and not necessarily a bad thing, definitely not the first time. |
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By *ild_oatsMan 4 weeks ago
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"So much anti Trump poop posted here by leftists and probable Guardian readers.
I don’t think he will bother trying to make is possible for him to stand again. I think he might be fashioning his son to succeed him as leader of the Republicans. It’s nepotism, and not necessarily a bad thing, definitely not the first time."
You really think nepotism is not a bad thing.
Might as well abandon democracy while you are at it. |
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By *oo hotCouple 4 weeks ago
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"So much anti Trump poop posted here by leftists and probable Guardian readers.
I don’t think he will bother trying to make is possible for him to stand again. I think he might be fashioning his son to succeed him as leader of the Republicans. It’s nepotism, and not necessarily a bad thing, definitely not the first time."
Ordinary, intelligent and decent people understand that that the world needs stability, pragmatism and leadership from the United States. Trump has set out on a path to destroy his last term’s big success (NAFTA) and he is attempting regime change in Canada by economic force. This is blatant bullying of the United States most long standing and closest ally and is nothing short of unhinged - Trump had effectively declared war on his closest neighbour because he no longer wants them to be an independent country. Worse it and a signal to the rest of the world that international rules and standards of behaviour no longer apply and the biggest and strongest can do whatever they want. This is not normal behaviour by any standards.
If the markets don’t stop him (which I hope they will as wars of any kind and economic instability is bad for business), I suspect that Greenland will literally be invaded.
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"So much anti Trump poop posted here by leftists and probable Guardian readers.
I don’t think he will bother trying to make is possible for him to stand again. I think he might be fashioning his son to succeed him as leader of the Republicans. It’s nepotism, and not necessarily a bad thing, definitely not the first time.
You really think nepotism is not a bad thing.
Might as well abandon democracy while you are at it."
All depends if the son you are talking about is Eric.  |
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By *ild_oatsMan 4 weeks ago
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The American people have wittingly or unwittingly stumbled into what could turn out to be a Dystopian future where democracy is abandoned and power is in hands of a few and the rise of the religious far right. Marginalisation and persecution of groups of citizens who don’t conform to their beliefs.
Ever read the Handmaiden’s Tale? It might be a lot closer than you think.
This could just now be a case of life imitating art.
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By *ild_oatsMan 4 weeks ago
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"Whatever news you are watching. Please stop! 🤦♂️"
You think that having an unelected person in the form of Elon Musk and his aides now gaining full access to all federal employee personal data. Shutting down a government independent agency. Taking control of the US Treasury Department’s payment system is not dystopian…
All without any oversight apart from the man who appointed him.
I wonder what you would consider dystopian for the American people.
Alarmist, maybe but it’s less than a full month in to the presidency with these and threats of international trade wars… what else could arise from this autocratic president as he tries to achieve his previous stated goal of having total power.
The next few years could be interesting. |
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"Whilst on the surface DT looks like an orange fool.
His multitude of executive orders are designed to sow chaos and confusion. That way he can baffle his political opponents and usurp democratic institutions and process in America to create an oligarchy where he has total power.
Tyrants don’t come to power through armed struggle. They use charm, lies, false hopes and promises by tell people who initially vote for them the things that they want to hear.
They fill the positions of state with lackeys who worship every word they say. Dissenting voices are hounded out of office and persecuted…
Can’t really imagine DT accepting being voted out of office in 4 years time…. There are already proposals to change the 14th Amendment of the constitution so that he can serve more than two terms."
He would become the new Putin, I do not know why Russians even bother to vote, his there until death, DT must want some of that. |
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By *ild_oatsMan 4 weeks ago
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"Yeah, you’re right cancelling the millions allocated to Gaza for condoms paid for by the US taxpayer is shocking "
Very easy to scoff and focus on one sensational headline and totally miss the whole picture of creeping authoritarianism and disregard of democratic principles.
I’m sure the federal employees who are also US taxpayers are overwhelmingly overjoyed that Elon Musk has access it all their personal and employment data….
Elon Musk has now been classed as a “Special Government Employee” by the Trump administration…
Sounds similar to Putin’s “Special Military Operation” in Ukraine….
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"The American people have wittingly or unwittingly stumbled into what could turn out to be a Dystopian future where democracy is abandoned and power is in hands of a few and the rise of the religious far right. Marginalisation and persecution of groups of citizens who don’t conform to their beliefs.
Ever read the Handmaiden’s Tale? It might be a lot closer than you think.
This could just now be a case of life imitating art.
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Or Google project 25 |
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By *ild_oatsMan 4 weeks ago
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"Well to be fair he's shaking up the World order. If that stops kids dying of Fentanyl overdoses, that's a good thing right?"
But that’s not the true picture. As the majority of Fentanyl is over prescribed by US Doctors.
There is illegal fentanyl smuggling mainly from Mexico and a minor amount less than 1% from Canada of the illegal supply.
However Fentanyl is also smuggled into Canada from America.
Also the chemicals used to make Fentanyl are imported into America legally…
It’s not as straightforward as you suggest.
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"Yeah, you’re right, I suppose I’m just shocked that a democratically elected President, with an overwhelming mandate, is actually doing what he said he was voted in to do. Putinesque indeed 🤷♂️"
Least we forget, there are other democratically elected leaders, with overwhelming mandates, who overstepped the mark.
Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Pol Pot (Year zero policy), Joseph Stalin, Vladimir Putin and Recept Tayyip Erdogan. Overwhelming mandates do not justify illegal actions and inhuman treatment of those perceived to have opposed the despot. |
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"Well to be fair he's shaking up the World order. If that stops kids dying of Fentanyl overdoses, that's a good thing right?"
Well, it's a lot easier than trying to dramatically reduce the demand for Fentanyl - or any other opioid. Who wants to put in the massive effort that would require? Right? |
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He should take some lessons from Starmer perhaps.
Our own Glorious Leader never fails in making everything sound very dull and uninteresting, and bringing down a pall of gloom and doom on proceedings.
It will be interesting to see how US and UK economic performance compare over the next four years and whether US or UK citizens are better or worse off. That of course is the real test of Trump’s (and Starmer’s) government. And what Trump and Starmer will be judged on. |
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"The American people have wittingly or unwittingly stumbled into what could turn out to be a Dystopian future where democracy is abandoned and power is in hands of a few and the rise of the religious far right. Marginalisation and persecution of groups of citizens who don’t conform to their beliefs.
Ever read the Handmaiden’s Tale? It might be a lot closer than you think.
This could just now be a case of life imitating art.
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Did you sleep through the last 4 years of shit show from Biden?...... |
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By *ild_oatsMan 4 weeks ago
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"The American people have wittingly or unwittingly stumbled into what could turn out to be a Dystopian future where democracy is abandoned and power is in hands of a few and the rise of the religious far right. Marginalisation and persecution of groups of citizens who don’t conform to their beliefs.
Ever read the Handmaiden’s Tale? It might be a lot closer than you think.
This could just now be a case of life imitating art.
Did you sleep through the last 4 years of shit show from Biden?......"
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Managing the second wave of the COVID crisis. - handling of the crisis and the advice given to the public was in stark contrast to the chaos of the Trump administration. Implementing a vaccine rollout that was effective, rectifying previous supply problems with sourcing vaccines.
Supporting Ukraine - Continued and unwavering support for Ukraine has been met with fierce opposition from Maga Republicans in Congress ever since Russia launched its full-scale invasion in 2022.
Affordable healthcare - Managed to double the number of Americans who have access to affordable healthcare.
Economic improvements - The economy created 2.23 million jobs in the final year of Biden’s term. The administration’s economic performance exceeded many forecasters’ expectations, especially in job creation. Biden was the first president under whom jobs were created during every month they were in office.
He failed to bring down inflation which made him an easy target for Trump to criticise during the 2024 election.
On tackling immigration attempts to push through a number of bills such as the US Citizenship Act 2021 were, for various reasons, Republicans have blocked.
Afghanistan withdrawal was chaos but it had been previously set in motion by the prior Trump administration.
Or maybe you were asleep or just listened to the false narrative constantly pushed by DT and his team.
If you tell a lie often and loud enough people will eventually believe it.
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"Well to be fair he's shaking up the World order. If that stops kids dying of Fentanyl overdoses, that's a good thing right?
Well, it's a lot easier than trying to dramatically reduce the demand for Fentanyl - or any other opioid. Who wants to put in the massive effort that would require? Right?"
How do you reduce demand when cheap drugs are flooding across your borders? Tell kids 'it's a bit naughty'? Put them in jail (they're full)? The most important action is to stop the supply, the rest will follow. Kudos to Trump for having the balls to do something. |
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