Four people stabbed in supermarket in Croydon today.
Sentencing today for the Stockport murderer.
12 year old murdered in Birmingham yesterday.
Is random knife crime getting worse and what can be done about it ?
Should it be harder to buy knives ?
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"Four people stabbed in supermarket in Croydon today.
Sentencing today for the Stockport murderer.
12 year old murdered in Birmingham yesterday.
Is random knife crime getting worse and what can be done about it ?
Should it be harder to buy knives ?
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27 million households with a dozen in every kitchen. Impossible to stop. |
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"More stop and search in high crime areas ? "
As I said in the other thread yesterday.
Its not just a city problem.
A greater police presence on the streets actual Bobbie's on the beat, small police stations re opened with 24hr access to a front desk.
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"More stop and search in high crime areas ?
As I said in the other thread yesterday.
Its not just a city problem.
A greater police presence on the streets actual Bobbie's on the beat, small police stations re opened with 24hr access to a front desk.
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Yes to all that.
But will it make a material difference to knife crime? Would it have made a difference in any of the above cases? |
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"More stop and search in high crime areas ?
As I said in the other thread yesterday.
Its not just a city problem.
A greater police presence on the streets actual Bobbie's on the beat, small police stations re opened with 24hr access to a front desk.
Yes to all that.
But will it make a material difference to knife crime? Would it have made a difference in any of the above cases?"
Very good questions. |
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"More stop and search in high crime areas ?
As I said in the other thread yesterday.
Its not just a city problem.
A greater police presence on the streets actual Bobbie's on the beat, small police stations re opened with 24hr access to a front desk.
"
From an ex copper I totally agree..the worst thing they ever done was closed down the small neighbourhood police stations and went to regional big police stations...madness |
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It's definitely getting insanely worse.
You have to constantly check your back these days. There isn't a solution.
The thing that is annoying is we keep getting told it's an isolated incident.
How many isolated cases become an epidemic. Every day this week there's been an isolated incident, Birmingham, Luton, Birmingham, Plymouth and Croydon.
There are probably some we're still yet to hear about.
As far as I can see it's an epidemic and Government need to act quick and sort it. |
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"More stop and search in high crime areas ?
As I said in the other thread yesterday.
Its not just a city problem.
A greater police presence on the streets actual Bobbie's on the beat, small police stations re opened with 24hr access to a front desk.
"
The police unfortunately are there to deal with the consequences. Ring up Devon and Cornwall 101 and you’ll be on hold 30 mins minimum to report something suspicious (not emergency).
We will get to a time when the military are on the streets as a safeguarding deterrent |
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"It's definitely getting insanely worse.
You have to constantly check your back these days. There isn't a solution.
The thing that is annoying is we keep getting told it's an isolated incident.
How many isolated cases become an epidemic. Every day this week there's been an isolated incident, Birmingham, Luton, Birmingham, Plymouth and Croydon.
There are probably some we're still yet to hear about.
As far as I can see it's an epidemic and Government need to act quick and sort it."
Knife crime in England and Wales has increased over the last decade, with a 4% rise in the year ending June 2024. This is an 80% increase from the previous decade. |
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"More stop and search in high crime areas ?
As I said in the other thread yesterday.
Its not just a city problem.
A greater police presence on the streets actual Bobbie's on the beat, small police stations re opened with 24hr access to a front desk.
From an ex copper I totally agree..the worst thing they ever done was closed down the small neighbourhood police stations and went to regional big police stations...madness"
I wouldn’t disagree but how does this resolve the increasing knife crime. What can be done with schools/ youth groups/ previous offenders giving talks etc.
As above has said it’s reported as a series of individual incidents. 49,000 reported knife attacks 2023/2024 |
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"More stop and search in high crime areas ?
As I said in the other thread yesterday.
Its not just a city problem.
A greater police presence on the streets actual Bobbie's on the beat, small police stations re opened with 24hr access to a front desk.
Yes to all that.
But will it make a material difference to knife crime? Would it have made a difference in any of the above cases?
Very good questions."
Well unless it actually happens we'll never know, it's not just knife crime but crime in general and antisocial behaviour a pandemic.
With decision makers putting too much faith in technology and cameras over actual policing.
It must be over ten years since I saw a police walking around our local neighbourhood and then they were neighbourhood wardens not actual police. |
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"It's definitely getting insanely worse.
You have to constantly check your back these days. There isn't a solution.
The thing that is annoying is we keep getting told it's an isolated incident.
How many isolated cases become an epidemic. Every day this week there's been an isolated incident, Birmingham, Luton, Birmingham, Plymouth and Croydon.
There are probably some we're still yet to hear about.
As far as I can see it's an epidemic and Government need to act quick and sort it.
Knife crime in England and Wales has increased over the last decade, with a 4% rise in the year ending June 2024. This is an 80% increase from the previous decade."
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"It's definitely getting insanely worse.
You have to constantly check your back these days. There isn't a solution.
The thing that is annoying is we keep getting told it's an isolated incident.
How many isolated cases become an epidemic. Every day this week there's been an isolated incident, Birmingham, Luton, Birmingham, Plymouth and Croydon.
There are probably some we're still yet to hear about.
As far as I can see it's an epidemic and Government need to act quick and sort it."
It seems to be a national emergency now, especially in London and Birmingham. |
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Years ago the Scottish Government changed tact at treated the issue as a public health issue as opposed to a criminal reactory issue. We educated. Had a knife amnesty etc. Knife crime dramatically reduced and as far as I'm aware knife crime in Scotland is still significantly lower per capita than England and Wales.
There are many articles and studies available. Google is your friend here. I'm not doing the research for anyone.
As with most social problems education is the fundamental issue that needs to be tackled. We need to invest in our kids and change the mindset of future generations.
I'm sure the penalty for possession of a bladed weapon in Scotland was made more severe following the amnesty. Police and other agencies went out and worked within youth groups etc encouraging and informing them to give up the weapons and how harsh the consequences would be once the new tariffs were in place.
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This kind of thing scares me, I live in a quiet rural town, we still have a local police station, although I can't remember the last time I saw a "Bobby on the beat" We have had a few cases of knife crime over the years and scarily a child has been found with one at school.
I'm not sure that stop and search is the magic bullet people think it is, it sounds like alot of agro for the police for limited results. |
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A 2023 survey of 7,500 teenagers found that 4% had carried a weapon in the previous year
Another survey found that 3.47% of 14-year-olds reported carrying a knife, with 71.3% of those being boys
4% of 4 million teenagers is a lot of knives. And the two stabbings reported yesterday in Plymouth and Croydon were carried out by men. One of them aged 53. |
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"A 2023 survey of 7,500 teenagers found that 4% had carried a weapon in the previous year
Another survey found that 3.47% of 14-year-olds reported carrying a knife, with 71.3% of those being boys
4% of 4 million teenagers is a lot of knives. And the two stabbings reported yesterday in Plymouth and Croydon were carried out by men. One of them aged 53. "
Not sure the mathes would extrapolate that way and by your own maths, 4% of 7500 is 300, yes that's alot, but that also means 7200 or 96% didn't carry knives.
I remember reading about the Scottish solution and hearing about how effective it was. |
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