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It does not seem to have been met with a great amount of excitement even by the government. According to the BBC it will make further trade deals with other countries harder and some not possible at all |
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By *ermbiMan 4 weeks ago
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"ever closer alignment with europe 
I hope MSs block; EU has too many Brexit benefits & don't want to lose them!
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Just for the craic give us a long list of those Brexit benefits you are referring to. |
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It seem to me that labour and others has forgotten the we had a referendum and the people voted to leave and if all parties had got behind the vote. Instead of in fighting we would not be in this mess now if we was to rejoin we be worse off in the long term |
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"It seem to me that labour and others has forgotten the we had a referendum and the people voted to leave and if all parties had got behind the vote. Instead of in fighting we would not be in this mess now if we was to rejoin we be worse off in the long term "
It seems to me that remain warned that it would bring no benefits, and that’s what’s happened.
Now public opinion from 2017-present (except a brief spell during Covid) reflects that the majority think Brexit was a bad idea and we were wrong to leave. |
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"ever closer alignment with europe
I hope MSs block; EU has too many Brexit benefits & don't want to lose them!
Just for the craic give us a long list of those Brexit benefits you are referring to. "
From an Irish perspective; several UK agencies have moved their EU operations to Ireland, so more employment & tax revenue for the Irish exchequer.
Also; while still edgy, we/Ireland were able to keep an open border with NI & so maintain peace.
Ireland has also diversified our suppliers too; an anecdote, but for my side business, I have moved from UK to EU suppliers; I was using UK supplies just for convenience but not have better, cheaper service compared to pre-Brexit.
Ireland has also become a more interesting option for students for Erasmus scheme, as they can improve their English, due to FOM |
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"It seem to me that labour and others has forgotten the we had a referendum and the people voted to leave and if all parties had got behind the vote. Instead of in fighting we would not be in this mess now if we was to rejoin we be worse off in the long term "
UK voted to leave the EU, which you did in 2020.
UK did not vote to leave the CU or SM, both of which UK public were told wouldn't happen by Hannan, Garage, Johnson, etc. |
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"ever closer alignment with europe
I hope MSs block; EU has too many Brexit benefits & don't want to lose them!
Just for the craic give us a long list of those Brexit benefits you are referring to.
From an Irish perspective; several UK agencies have moved their EU operations to Ireland, so more employment & tax revenue for the Irish exchequer.
Also; while still edgy, we/Ireland were able to keep an open border with NI & so maintain peace.
Ireland has also diversified our suppliers too; an anecdote, but for my side business, I have moved from UK to EU suppliers; I was using UK supplies just for convenience but not have better, cheaper service compared to pre-Brexit.
Ireland has also become a more interesting option for students for Erasmus scheme, as they can improve their English, due to FOM"
The UK is Ireland's second largest export market (after US), so be careful what you wish for. UK customers have options too, and you might be needing them if Trump imposes EU tariffs |
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"ever closer alignment with europe
I hope MSs block; EU has too many Brexit benefits & don't want to lose them!
Just for the craic give us a long list of those Brexit benefits you are referring to.
From an Irish perspective; several UK agencies have moved their EU operations to Ireland, so more employment & tax revenue for the Irish exchequer.
Also; while still edgy, we/Ireland were able to keep an open border with NI & so maintain peace.
Ireland has also diversified our suppliers too; an anecdote, but for my side business, I have moved from UK to EU suppliers; I was using UK supplies just for convenience but not have better, cheaper service compared to pre-Brexit.
Ireland has also become a more interesting option for students for Erasmus scheme, as they can improve their English, due to FOM
The UK is Ireland's second largest export market (after US), so be careful what you wish for. UK customers have options too, and you might be needing them if Trump imposes EU tariffs "
My point was that due to Brexit, Irish (& other EU MSs) are getting benefits...for UK companies, I think the jury is still out on when those Brexit benefits are coming... |
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"ever closer alignment with europe
I hope MSs block; EU has too many Brexit benefits & don't want to lose them!
Just for the craic give us a long list of those Brexit benefits you are referring to.
From an Irish perspective; several UK agencies have moved their EU operations to Ireland, so more employment & tax revenue for the Irish exchequer.
Also; while still edgy, we/Ireland were able to keep an open border with NI & so maintain peace.
Ireland has also diversified our suppliers too; an anecdote, but for my side business, I have moved from UK to EU suppliers; I was using UK supplies just for convenience but not have better, cheaper service compared to pre-Brexit.
Ireland has also become a more interesting option for students for Erasmus scheme, as they can improve their English, due to FOM
The UK is Ireland's second largest export market (after US), so be careful what you wish for. UK customers have options too, and you might be needing them if Trump imposes EU tariffs
My point was that due to Brexit, Irish (& other EU MSs) are getting benefits...for UK companies, I think the jury is still out on when those Brexit benefits are coming..."
Yes, the jury is out on benefits, but there were always two threads to Brexit a) political and b) economic. The former is much harder to measure than the latter. |
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By (user no longer on site) 4 weeks ago
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"ever closer alignment with europe
I hope MSs block; EU has too many Brexit benefits & don't want to lose them!
Just for the craic give us a long list of those Brexit benefits you are referring to.
From an Irish perspective; several UK agencies have moved their EU operations to Ireland, so more employment & tax revenue for the Irish exchequer.
Also; while still edgy, we/Ireland were able to keep an open border with NI & so maintain peace.
Ireland has also diversified our suppliers too; an anecdote, but for my side business, I have moved from UK to EU suppliers; I was using UK supplies just for convenience but not have better, cheaper service compared to pre-Brexit.
Ireland has also become a more interesting option for students for Erasmus scheme, as they can improve their English, due to FOM
The UK is Ireland's second largest export market (after US), so be careful what you wish for. UK customers have options too, and you might be needing them if Trump imposes EU tariffs
My point was that due to Brexit, Irish (& other EU MSs) are getting benefits...for UK companies, I think the jury is still out on when those Brexit benefits are coming...
Yes, the jury is out on benefits, but there were always two threads to Brexit a) political and b) economic. The former is much harder to measure than the latter."
It was very much sold as an economic benefit though, particularly from vote leave (leave dot EU were cagier on economics). |
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"ever closer alignment with europe
I hope MSs block; EU has too many Brexit benefits & don't want to lose them!
Just for the craic give us a long list of those Brexit benefits you are referring to.
From an Irish perspective; several UK agencies have moved their EU operations to Ireland, so more employment & tax revenue for the Irish exchequer.
Also; while still edgy, we/Ireland were able to keep an open border with NI & so maintain peace.
Ireland has also diversified our suppliers too; an anecdote, but for my side business, I have moved from UK to EU suppliers; I was using UK supplies just for convenience but not have better, cheaper service compared to pre-Brexit.
Ireland has also become a more interesting option for students for Erasmus scheme, as they can improve their English, due to FOM
The UK is Ireland's second largest export market (after US), so be careful what you wish for. UK customers have options too, and you might be needing them if Trump imposes EU tariffs
My point was that due to Brexit, Irish (& other EU MSs) are getting benefits...for UK companies, I think the jury is still out on when those Brexit benefits are coming...
Yes, the jury is out on benefits, but there were always two threads to Brexit a) political and b) economic. The former is much harder to measure than the latter.
It was very much sold as an economic benefit though, particularly from vote leave (leave dot EU were cagier on economics). "
Partly, but the top two reasons were political : sovereignty and immigration |
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"It seem to me that labour and others has forgotten the we had a referendum and the people voted to leave and if all parties had got behind the vote. Instead of in fighting we would not be in this mess now if we was to rejoin we be worse off in the long term
UK voted to leave the EU, which you did in 2020.
UK did not vote to leave the CU or SM, both of which UK public were told wouldn't happen by Hannan, Garage, Johnson, etc."
yes they were told,Cameron was pretty clear what leaving the eu meant it was even in the leaflet everyone got through there door,leaving the eu meant leaving the eu completely,I didn't even vote but even I was aware of what leaving the eu meant |
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"It seem to me that labour and others has forgotten the we had a referendum and the people voted to leave and if all parties had got behind the vote. Instead of in fighting we would not be in this mess now if we was to rejoin we be worse off in the long term
UK voted to leave the EU, which you did in 2020.
UK did not vote to leave the CU or SM, both of which UK public were told wouldn't happen by Hannan, Garage, Johnson, etc.yes they were told,Cameron was pretty clear what leaving the eu meant it was even in the leaflet everyone got through there door,leaving the eu meant leaving the eu completely,I didn't even vote but even I was aware of what leaving the eu meant"
Yeah, the guy who wasn’t representing the leave campaign(s) told everyone what leave meant, while the guys who were representing the leave campagn(s) stammered and stuttered and pretended to be all things to all people.
Dan Hannan - ‘Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the single market’ |
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