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"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? " I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack" If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. | |||
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"He now says he needs 100 days to end the war. But given his impact on the Israel-Hamas war, I think it's fair to give him more time." I think it was Kellogg who came up with the 100 days, that timeframe is probably over ambitious, but would be amazing if met. Stopping this war is such an undertaking and it won't be accepted by Ukraine if it doesn't come with defensive guarantees which brings in so many complications. | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. " russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to | |||
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"The west and nato has failed Ukraine miserably. " Agreed; I believe a Ukrainian redline will be NATO membership. They relied on US, Russian & UK promises via The Budapest Accords & look where that got them... | |||
"He now says he needs 100 days to end the war. But given his impact on the Israel-Hamas war, I think it's fair to give him more time. I think it was Kellogg who came up with the 100 days, that timeframe is probably over ambitious, but would be amazing if met. Stopping this war is such an undertaking and it won't be accepted by Ukraine if it doesn't come with defensive guarantees which brings in so many complications. " Yeah it is quite complicated. 100 days is ambitious for sure. It will be interesting to see what ideas he has. | |||
"The west and nato has failed Ukraine miserably. Agreed; I believe a Ukrainian redline will be NATO membership. They relied on US, Russian & UK promises via The Budapest Accords & look where that got them..." This is the sticking point, Ukraine want in NATO and Russia wont back down if they do, because continuing the war automatically stops Ukraine joining NATO. The resolution is going to be a complex set of outcomes that are not going to be agreed or even implemented swiftly. | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to" Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putin | |||
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"If his ramblings about flooding the globe with oil comes to fruition, I think old Vlad will have to heel… as oil will become so cheap." Thr US was pumping oil out at a higher pace under Biden than at any time in history, including trumps first term, and it barely kept the oil price from soaring. The issues in Israel, Iran and Yemen have far more impact than US oil drilling. Trump tarrifs however will directly affect our prices! If he does what he promised about global tarrifs we will soon be in another global recession and possibly a massive depression. | |||
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"Once the gay porn, money laundering dwarf zalensky has been got rid of yeah." And then what? Like it or not, Ukraine was invaded & has a right to defend herself. Anyway; I think Trump will propose a peace deal which neither Russia & Ukraine will be happy with & tell them to take it or leave it; this would benefit Russia more...& maybe get a Nobel Peace Prize for Trump | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to" Western troops were not needed if nato and allies had acted promptly with heavy weapons, fighter aircraft to support ground troops and adequate supplies of ammunition - most of the latter reported to have arrived late. Now the casualties are so high, damage so great, it’s inevitable Ukrainians want an end. They will have to accept that the Donbas is never coming back. | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putin" hey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less" Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. | |||
"Once the gay porn, money laundering dwarf zalensky has been got rid of yeah. And then what? Like it or not, Ukraine was invaded & has a right to defend herself. Anyway; I think Trump will propose a peace deal which neither Russia & Ukraine will be happy with & tell them to take it or leave it; this would benefit Russia more...& maybe get a Nobel Peace Prize for Trump " Nobel peace prize for Trump? That will almost certainly cause worldwide flooding as we all drown in left wing tears.  | |||
"Once the gay porn, money laundering dwarf zalensky has been got rid of yeah. And then what? Like it or not, Ukraine was invaded & has a right to defend herself. Anyway; I think Trump will propose a peace deal which neither Russia & Ukraine will be happy with & tell them to take it or leave it; this would benefit Russia more...& maybe get a Nobel Peace Prize for Trump Nobel peace prize for Trump? That will almost certainly cause worldwide flooding as we all drown in left wing tears. "Yeah; I read it a few times he wants a Nobel Peace Prize cause Obama got one...it sounds so crazy it might just be true! | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. " why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley" What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? " if our history is anything ti go by id imagine we would fight until the last person, saying that we are tiny compared to ukraine so if an invading army made it onto our shores id imagine it would all be over in 3months when you look at the size of our armed forces plus there are so many peoole here now not from the uk who ran from there own countrys wars so thats a sizable chunk who wouldnt fight for us, i meen if ukraine wana fight to the last person then good on them id say, but they are running out of those prepared to fightt so there pretty much fucked | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? if our history is anything ti go by id imagine we would fight until the last person, saying that we are tiny compared to ukraine so if an invading army made it onto our shores id imagine it would all be over in 3months when you look at the size of our armed forces plus there are so many peoole here now not from the uk who ran from there own countrys wars so thats a sizable chunk who wouldnt fight for us, i meen if ukraine wana fight to the last person then good on them id say, but they are running out of those prepared to fightt so there pretty much fucked" You didn’t actually answer my question though. You believe that the best course is for Ukraine to sacrifice territory - but why should they? Would we be willing to sacrifice Cornwall, or norfolk (probably yes to that one ) just because someone else swanned in and attacked? | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? if our history is anything ti go by id imagine we would fight until the last person, saying that we are tiny compared to ukraine so if an invading army made it onto our shores id imagine it would all be over in 3months when you look at the size of our armed forces plus there are so many peoole here now not from the uk who ran from there own countrys wars so thats a sizable chunk who wouldnt fight for us, i meen if ukraine wana fight to the last person then good on them id say, but they are running out of those prepared to fightt so there pretty much fucked You didn’t actually answer my question though. You believe that the best course is for Ukraine to sacrifice territory - but why should they? Would we be willing to sacrifice Cornwall, or norfolk (probably yes to that one ) just because someone else swanned in and attacked? "Exactly, and what message does it send out? An aggressor state can invade another and expect to keep any territory gained, or at least most of it. It's a terrible precedent for world order. We really are going backwards. | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? if our history is anything ti go by id imagine we would fight until the last person, saying that we are tiny compared to ukraine so if an invading army made it onto our shores id imagine it would all be over in 3months when you look at the size of our armed forces plus there are so many peoole here now not from the uk who ran from there own countrys wars so thats a sizable chunk who wouldnt fight for us, i meen if ukraine wana fight to the last person then good on them id say, but they are running out of those prepared to fightt so there pretty much fucked You didn’t actually answer my question though. You believe that the best course is for Ukraine to sacrifice territory - but why should they? Would we be willing to sacrifice Cornwall, or norfolk (probably yes to that one ) just because someone else swanned in and attacked? "i answerd your question i said knowing our history we would probably fight till no one was left so i guess we would cede the whole lot because no one would be left, if thats ukrains choice fair play to them | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? if our history is anything ti go by id imagine we would fight until the last person, saying that we are tiny compared to ukraine so if an invading army made it onto our shores id imagine it would all be over in 3months when you look at the size of our armed forces plus there are so many peoole here now not from the uk who ran from there own countrys wars so thats a sizable chunk who wouldnt fight for us, i meen if ukraine wana fight to the last person then good on them id say, but they are running out of those prepared to fightt so there pretty much fucked You didn’t actually answer my question though. You believe that the best course is for Ukraine to sacrifice territory - but why should they? Would we be willing to sacrifice Cornwall, or norfolk (probably yes to that one ) just because someone else swanned in and attacked? i answerd your question i said knowing our history we would probably fight till no one was left so i guess we would cede the whole lot because no one would be left, if thats ukrains choice fair play to them"So you wouldn’t be willing to sacrifice a chunk to appease an oppressor but are content to watch it happen to someone else? Because there are ‘winners and losers’ (your words) | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? if our history is anything ti go by id imagine we would fight until the last person, saying that we are tiny compared to ukraine so if an invading army made it onto our shores id imagine it would all be over in 3months when you look at the size of our armed forces plus there are so many peoole here now not from the uk who ran from there own countrys wars so thats a sizable chunk who wouldnt fight for us, i meen if ukraine wana fight to the last person then good on them id say, but they are running out of those prepared to fightt so there pretty much fucked You didn’t actually answer my question though. You believe that the best course is for Ukraine to sacrifice territory - but why should they? Would we be willing to sacrifice Cornwall, or norfolk (probably yes to that one ) just because someone else swanned in and attacked? i answerd your question i said knowing our history we would probably fight till no one was left so i guess we would cede the whole lot because no one would be left, if thats ukrains choice fair play to them
So you wouldn’t be willing to sacrifice a chunk to appease an oppressor but are content to watch it happen to someone else? Because there are ‘winners and losers’ (your words)"To be fair to the other poster I think you are making an unfair comparison. I don't think anyone would sacrifice a square inch of land to a theoretical invader. However theory has a bad habit of crashing head first into reality. That's when things change. I fully accept your stance on Ukraine and if I thought they had a chance of winning I would urge them to fight on. But they are not winning, they are being slowly pushed back and after 3 years and over a million casualties on both sides it's time to end it. If that means some land has to be given then so be it. Wipe your mouth and move on. If Britain was in Ukraine's position who's to say that we wouldn't sacrifice Norfolk to save the rest of the country and countless lives? Therefore by the grace of god go I. | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? " Wales | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? Wales" Actually a fair proposition | |||
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"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? " The answer is Basildon, yes final answer Basildon. 
On this point, when you were posting under your old profile I remember clearly you saying you would not take up arms for a piece of rock (UK), or how land is not worth fighting over and you would simply move with your family. You seem to have had a radical change in your opinion.
Why the change of mind? | |||
"A day after inxauragation, the KKK distributes flyers in Kentucky telling immigrants to ‘leave now’. " And this is the problem - the dispossessed feel empowered to vote for Trump, perhaps because they believe him, perhaps out of desperation because they’ve been failed *by the system* - and because of the nonsense spouted by some within republican walls, idiots like the KKK feel emboldened to do this. Are all MAGA racist? No of course not. Do all MAGA want this sort of shit? Definitely not. But the bigots feel able to do as they please, because who’s going to stop them? | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? The answer is Basildon, yes final answer Basildon.
On this point, when you were posting under your old profile I remember clearly you saying you would not take up arms for a piece of rock (UK), or how land is not worth fighting over and you would simply move with your family. You seem to have had a radical change in your opinion.
Why the change of mind?"I’ve not changed my mind at all. I won’t take up arms for a piece of rock. I’m just exploring potential duplicity of those who would. Re: Ukraine it’s not about who has what land, it’s about not allowing Russia to walk away with a ‘win’ | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? if our history is anything ti go by id imagine we would fight until the last person, saying that we are tiny compared to ukraine so if an invading army made it onto our shores id imagine it would all be over in 3months when you look at the size of our armed forces plus there are so many peoole here now not from the uk who ran from there own countrys wars so thats a sizable chunk who wouldnt fight for us, i meen if ukraine wana fight to the last person then good on them id say, but they are running out of those prepared to fightt so there pretty much fucked You didn’t actually answer my question though. You believe that the best course is for Ukraine to sacrifice territory - but why should they? Would we be willing to sacrifice Cornwall, or norfolk (probably yes to that one ) just because someone else swanned in and attacked? i answerd your question i said knowing our history we would probably fight till no one was left so i guess we would cede the whole lot because no one would be left, if thats ukrains choice fair play to them
So you wouldn’t be willing to sacrifice a chunk to appease an oppressor but are content to watch it happen to someone else? Because there are ‘winners and losers’ (your words)"I'm not in charge of ukraine or living there,they can fight to the last person and lose it all if they want,if that's not what they want to do then yes there going to have to give up land,its as simple as that because russia are more than happy to carry on with a war of attrition,thats just reality because no one is coming to there rescue personally I care very little about what they choose to do not my circus not my monkeys | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? if our history is anything ti go by id imagine we would fight until the last person, saying that we are tiny compared to ukraine so if an invading army made it onto our shores id imagine it would all be over in 3months when you look at the size of our armed forces plus there are so many peoole here now not from the uk who ran from there own countrys wars so thats a sizable chunk who wouldnt fight for us, i meen if ukraine wana fight to the last person then good on them id say, but they are running out of those prepared to fightt so there pretty much fucked You didn’t actually answer my question though. You believe that the best course is for Ukraine to sacrifice territory - but why should they? Would we be willing to sacrifice Cornwall, or norfolk (probably yes to that one ) just because someone else swanned in and attacked? i answerd your question i said knowing our history we would probably fight till no one was left so i guess we would cede the whole lot because no one would be left, if thats ukrains choice fair play to them
So you wouldn’t be willing to sacrifice a chunk to appease an oppressor but are content to watch it happen to someone else? Because there are ‘winners and losers’ (your words)I'm not in charge of ukraine or living there,they can fight to the last person and lose it all if they want,if that's not what they want to do then yes there going to have to give up land,its as simple as that because russia are more than happy to carry on with a war of attrition,thats just reality because no one is coming to there rescue personally I care very little about what they choose to do not my circus not my monkeys"And so Russia shouldn’t be able to profit from their invasion just like that? What about when Putin moves into other non-NATO countries? Same deal? | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? The answer is Basildon, yes final answer Basildon.
On this point, when you were posting under your old profile I remember clearly you saying you would not take up arms for a piece of rock (UK), or how land is not worth fighting over and you would simply move with your family. You seem to have had a radical change in your opinion.
Why the change of mind?
I’ve not changed my mind at all. I won’t take up arms for a piece of rock. I’m just exploring potential duplicity of those who would.
Re: Ukraine it’s not about who has what land, it’s about not allowing Russia to walk away with a ‘win’"Russia will walk away with the land they have taken, maybe not all of it, Putin is trying to be smart with that and is playing out a strategy. The weakness for Ukraine is their need to join NATO, this plays into Putin's hands and he will exploit that need by taking more land. If he gets what he wants, he will no longer care if Ukraine is in or out of NATO, if doesn't get what he wants he will prevent them joining NATO. This war is like a geopolitical chess match right now, Putin is sacrificing his pawns to take the part of the board he wants to keep. | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? The answer is Basildon, yes final answer Basildon.
On this point, when you were posting under your old profile I remember clearly you saying you would not take up arms for a piece of rock (UK), or how land is not worth fighting over and you would simply move with your family. You seem to have had a radical change in your opinion.
Why the change of mind?
I’ve not changed my mind at all. I won’t take up arms for a piece of rock. I’m just exploring potential duplicity of those who would.
Re: Ukraine it’s not about who has what land, it’s about not allowing Russia to walk away with a ‘win’
Russia will walk away with the land they have taken, maybe not all of it, Putin is trying to be smart with that and is playing out a strategy.
The weakness for Ukraine is their need to join NATO, this plays into Putin's hands and he will exploit that need by taking more land. If he gets what he wants, he will no longer care if Ukraine is in or out of NATO, if doesn't get what he wants he will prevent them joining NATO.
This war is like a geopolitical chess match right now, Putin is sacrificing his pawns to take the part of the board he wants to keep."Putin can’t prevent Ukraine joining NATO. I think it’s vital that Russia can’t take any territory from Ukraine, personally. You don’t embolden dictators like Putin, because he won’t stop there. | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? if our history is anything ti go by id imagine we would fight until the last person, saying that we are tiny compared to ukraine so if an invading army made it onto our shores id imagine it would all be over in 3months when you look at the size of our armed forces plus there are so many peoole here now not from the uk who ran from there own countrys wars so thats a sizable chunk who wouldnt fight for us, i meen if ukraine wana fight to the last person then good on them id say, but they are running out of those prepared to fightt so there pretty much fucked You didn’t actually answer my question though. You believe that the best course is for Ukraine to sacrifice territory - but why should they? Would we be willing to sacrifice Cornwall, or norfolk (probably yes to that one ) just because someone else swanned in and attacked? i answerd your question i said knowing our history we would probably fight till no one was left so i guess we would cede the whole lot because no one would be left, if thats ukrains choice fair play to them
So you wouldn’t be willing to sacrifice a chunk to appease an oppressor but are content to watch it happen to someone else? Because there are ‘winners and losers’ (your words)I'm not in charge of ukraine or living there,they can fight to the last person and lose it all if they want,if that's not what they want to do then yes there going to have to give up land,its as simple as that because russia are more than happy to carry on with a war of attrition,thats just reality because no one is coming to there rescue personally I care very little about what they choose to do not my circus not my monkeys
And so Russia shouldn’t be able to profit from their invasion just like that?
What about when Putin moves into other non-NATO countries? Same deal? "until he rocks up in a nato country then any other country is going to have to take them on or do you think nato should step in and trigger all out war? Because that is what will happen,you prepared to get the paint sucked of your house and have your shadow burned onto the pavement? I meen if it comes to that I'm OK I'm close enough to see the flash and be dead before I hear the bang,how about yourself? | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? The answer is Basildon, yes final answer Basildon.
On this point, when you were posting under your old profile I remember clearly you saying you would not take up arms for a piece of rock (UK), or how land is not worth fighting over and you would simply move with your family. You seem to have had a radical change in your opinion.
Why the change of mind?
I’ve not changed my mind at all. I won’t take up arms for a piece of rock. I’m just exploring potential duplicity of those who would.
Re: Ukraine it’s not about who has what land, it’s about not allowing Russia to walk away with a ‘win’
Russia will walk away with the land they have taken, maybe not all of it, Putin is trying to be smart with that and is playing out a strategy.
The weakness for Ukraine is their need to join NATO, this plays into Putin's hands and he will exploit that need by taking more land. If he gets what he wants, he will no longer care if Ukraine is in or out of NATO, if doesn't get what he wants he will prevent them joining NATO.
This war is like a geopolitical chess match right now, Putin is sacrificing his pawns to take the part of the board he wants to keep.
Putin can’t prevent Ukraine joining NATO.
I think it’s vital that Russia can’t take any territory from Ukraine, personally. You don’t embolden dictators like Putin, because he won’t stop there."Yes he can and will continue to do so, why do you think they haven't joined yet. NATO will not allow Ukraine to join whilst they are in conflict over their borders that are moving, their own rules. This is a basic rule, Article 5’s collective defence clause specifically to stop NATO countries being drawn into existing conflict outside of the member groups. If Ukraine do join NATO, they will need to have reached a peace deal with Russia. | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? The answer is Basildon, yes final answer Basildon.
On this point, when you were posting under your old profile I remember clearly you saying you would not take up arms for a piece of rock (UK), or how land is not worth fighting over and you would simply move with your family. You seem to have had a radical change in your opinion.
Why the change of mind?
I’ve not changed my mind at all. I won’t take up arms for a piece of rock. I’m just exploring potential duplicity of those who would.
Re: Ukraine it’s not about who has what land, it’s about not allowing Russia to walk away with a ‘win’
Russia will walk away with the land they have taken, maybe not all of it, Putin is trying to be smart with that and is playing out a strategy.
The weakness for Ukraine is their need to join NATO, this plays into Putin's hands and he will exploit that need by taking more land. If he gets what he wants, he will no longer care if Ukraine is in or out of NATO, if doesn't get what he wants he will prevent them joining NATO.
This war is like a geopolitical chess match right now, Putin is sacrificing his pawns to take the part of the board he wants to keep.
Putin can’t prevent Ukraine joining NATO.
I think it’s vital that Russia can’t take any territory from Ukraine, personally. You don’t embolden dictators like Putin, because he won’t stop there.
Yes he can and will continue to do so, why do you think they haven't joined yet.
NATO will not allow Ukraine to join whilst they are in conflict over their borders that are moving, their own rules.
This is a basic rule, Article 5’s collective defence clause specifically to stop NATO countries being drawn into existing conflict outside of the member groups.
If Ukraine do join NATO, they will need to have reached a peace deal with Russia.
"And peace will come. But it can’t come with Putin winning land - that’s setting up greater problems ahead. | |||
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"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? The answer is Basildon, yes final answer Basildon.
On this point, when you were posting under your old profile I remember clearly you saying you would not take up arms for a piece of rock (UK), or how land is not worth fighting over and you would simply move with your family. You seem to have had a radical change in your opinion.
Why the change of mind?
I’ve not changed my mind at all. I won’t take up arms for a piece of rock. I’m just exploring potential duplicity of those who would.
Re: Ukraine it’s not about who has what land, it’s about not allowing Russia to walk away with a ‘win’
Russia will walk away with the land they have taken, maybe not all of it, Putin is trying to be smart with that and is playing out a strategy.
The weakness for Ukraine is their need to join NATO, this plays into Putin's hands and he will exploit that need by taking more land. If he gets what he wants, he will no longer care if Ukraine is in or out of NATO, if doesn't get what he wants he will prevent them joining NATO.
This war is like a geopolitical chess match right now, Putin is sacrificing his pawns to take the part of the board he wants to keep.
Putin can’t prevent Ukraine joining NATO.
I think it’s vital that Russia can’t take any territory from Ukraine, personally. You don’t embolden dictators like Putin, because he won’t stop there.
Yes he can and will continue to do so, why do you think they haven't joined yet.
NATO will not allow Ukraine to join whilst they are in conflict over their borders that are moving, their own rules.
This is a basic rule, Article 5’s collective defence clause specifically to stop NATO countries being drawn into existing conflict outside of the member groups.
If Ukraine do join NATO, they will need to have reached a peace deal with Russia.
And peace will come. But it can’t come with Putin winning land - that’s setting up greater problems ahead."Realism or idealism, the facts are in front of you, but you are sharing your opinion on a moral outcome, not an outcome that will be inevitable for the an end to the war and Ukraine joining NATO. Realpolitik, Putin will keep land and control the outcomes. | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? The answer is Basildon, yes final answer Basildon.
On this point, when you were posting under your old profile I remember clearly you saying you would not take up arms for a piece of rock (UK), or how land is not worth fighting over and you would simply move with your family. You seem to have had a radical change in your opinion.
Why the change of mind?
I’ve not changed my mind at all. I won’t take up arms for a piece of rock. I’m just exploring potential duplicity of those who would.
Re: Ukraine it’s not about who has what land, it’s about not allowing Russia to walk away with a ‘win’
Russia will walk away with the land they have taken, maybe not all of it, Putin is trying to be smart with that and is playing out a strategy.
The weakness for Ukraine is their need to join NATO, this plays into Putin's hands and he will exploit that need by taking more land. If he gets what he wants, he will no longer care if Ukraine is in or out of NATO, if doesn't get what he wants he will prevent them joining NATO.
This war is like a geopolitical chess match right now, Putin is sacrificing his pawns to take the part of the board he wants to keep.
Putin can’t prevent Ukraine joining NATO.
I think it’s vital that Russia can’t take any territory from Ukraine, personally. You don’t embolden dictators like Putin, because he won’t stop there.
Yes he can and will continue to do so, why do you think they haven't joined yet.
NATO will not allow Ukraine to join whilst they are in conflict over their borders that are moving, their own rules.
This is a basic rule, Article 5’s collective defence clause specifically to stop NATO countries being drawn into existing conflict outside of the member groups.
If Ukraine do join NATO, they will need to have reached a peace deal with Russia.
And peace will come. But it can’t come with Putin winning land - that’s setting up greater problems ahead.
Realism or idealism, the facts are in front of you, but you are sharing your opinion on a moral outcome, not an outcome that will be inevitable for the an end to the war and Ukraine joining NATO.
Realpolitik, Putin will keep land and control the outcomes.
"And move on to new land grabs. | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? The answer is Basildon, yes final answer Basildon.
On this point, when you were posting under your old profile I remember clearly you saying you would not take up arms for a piece of rock (UK), or how land is not worth fighting over and you would simply move with your family. You seem to have had a radical change in your opinion.
Why the change of mind?
I’ve not changed my mind at all. I won’t take up arms for a piece of rock. I’m just exploring potential duplicity of those who would.
Re: Ukraine it’s not about who has what land, it’s about not allowing Russia to walk away with a ‘win’
Russia will walk away with the land they have taken, maybe not all of it, Putin is trying to be smart with that and is playing out a strategy.
The weakness for Ukraine is their need to join NATO, this plays into Putin's hands and he will exploit that need by taking more land. If he gets what he wants, he will no longer care if Ukraine is in or out of NATO, if doesn't get what he wants he will prevent them joining NATO.
This war is like a geopolitical chess match right now, Putin is sacrificing his pawns to take the part of the board he wants to keep.
Putin can’t prevent Ukraine joining NATO.
I think it’s vital that Russia can’t take any territory from Ukraine, personally. You don’t embolden dictators like Putin, because he won’t stop there.
Yes he can and will continue to do so, why do you think they haven't joined yet.
NATO will not allow Ukraine to join whilst they are in conflict over their borders that are moving, their own rules.
This is a basic rule, Article 5’s collective defence clause specifically to stop NATO countries being drawn into existing conflict outside of the member groups.
If Ukraine do join NATO, they will need to have reached a peace deal with Russia.
And peace will come. But it can’t come with Putin winning land - that’s setting up greater problems ahead.
Realism or idealism, the facts are in front of you, but you are sharing your opinion on a moral outcome, not an outcome that will be inevitable for the an end to the war and Ukraine joining NATO.
Realpolitik, Putin will keep land and control the outcomes.
And move on to new land grabs."mabey mabey not who knows for definite or can you see the future | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? The answer is Basildon, yes final answer Basildon.
On this point, when you were posting under your old profile I remember clearly you saying you would not take up arms for a piece of rock (UK), or how land is not worth fighting over and you would simply move with your family. You seem to have had a radical change in your opinion.
Why the change of mind?
I’ve not changed my mind at all. I won’t take up arms for a piece of rock. I’m just exploring potential duplicity of those who would.
Re: Ukraine it’s not about who has what land, it’s about not allowing Russia to walk away with a ‘win’
Russia will walk away with the land they have taken, maybe not all of it, Putin is trying to be smart with that and is playing out a strategy.
The weakness for Ukraine is their need to join NATO, this plays into Putin's hands and he will exploit that need by taking more land. If he gets what he wants, he will no longer care if Ukraine is in or out of NATO, if doesn't get what he wants he will prevent them joining NATO.
This war is like a geopolitical chess match right now, Putin is sacrificing his pawns to take the part of the board he wants to keep.
Putin can’t prevent Ukraine joining NATO.
I think it’s vital that Russia can’t take any territory from Ukraine, personally. You don’t embolden dictators like Putin, because he won’t stop there.
Yes he can and will continue to do so, why do you think they haven't joined yet.
NATO will not allow Ukraine to join whilst they are in conflict over their borders that are moving, their own rules.
This is a basic rule, Article 5’s collective defence clause specifically to stop NATO countries being drawn into existing conflict outside of the member groups.
If Ukraine do join NATO, they will need to have reached a peace deal with Russia.
And peace will come. But it can’t come with Putin winning land - that’s setting up greater problems ahead.
Realism or idealism, the facts are in front of you, but you are sharing your opinion on a moral outcome, not an outcome that will be inevitable for the an end to the war and Ukraine joining NATO.
Realpolitik, Putin will keep land and control the outcomes.
And move on to new land grabs.mabey mabey not who knows for definite or can you see the future"Indeed, maybe one illegal land grab will sate him. Who knows?! | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? The answer is Basildon, yes final answer Basildon.
On this point, when you were posting under your old profile I remember clearly you saying you would not take up arms for a piece of rock (UK), or how land is not worth fighting over and you would simply move with your family. You seem to have had a radical change in your opinion.
Why the change of mind?
I’ve not changed my mind at all. I won’t take up arms for a piece of rock. I’m just exploring potential duplicity of those who would.
Re: Ukraine it’s not about who has what land, it’s about not allowing Russia to walk away with a ‘win’
Russia will walk away with the land they have taken, maybe not all of it, Putin is trying to be smart with that and is playing out a strategy.
The weakness for Ukraine is their need to join NATO, this plays into Putin's hands and he will exploit that need by taking more land. If he gets what he wants, he will no longer care if Ukraine is in or out of NATO, if doesn't get what he wants he will prevent them joining NATO.
This war is like a geopolitical chess match right now, Putin is sacrificing his pawns to take the part of the board he wants to keep.
Putin can’t prevent Ukraine joining NATO.
I think it’s vital that Russia can’t take any territory from Ukraine, personally. You don’t embolden dictators like Putin, because he won’t stop there.
Yes he can and will continue to do so, why do you think they haven't joined yet.
NATO will not allow Ukraine to join whilst they are in conflict over their borders that are moving, their own rules.
This is a basic rule, Article 5’s collective defence clause specifically to stop NATO countries being drawn into existing conflict outside of the member groups.
If Ukraine do join NATO, they will need to have reached a peace deal with Russia.
And peace will come. But it can’t come with Putin winning land - that’s setting up greater problems ahead.
Realism or idealism, the facts are in front of you, but you are sharing your opinion on a moral outcome, not an outcome that will be inevitable for the an end to the war and Ukraine joining NATO.
Realpolitik, Putin will keep land and control the outcomes.
And move on to new land grabs."Potentially that could happen, but unlikely for good few years considering the cost the war with Ukraine. Countries exposed to this threat and NATO need to workout a plan that can minimise the threat. Putin is a great strategist and will exploit weaknesses in NATO and bordering countries, the West need to have the capability to defend against his thinking. | |||
"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? The answer is Basildon, yes final answer Basildon.
On this point, when you were posting under your old profile I remember clearly you saying you would not take up arms for a piece of rock (UK), or how land is not worth fighting over and you would simply move with your family. You seem to have had a radical change in your opinion.
Why the change of mind?
I’ve not changed my mind at all. I won’t take up arms for a piece of rock. I’m just exploring potential duplicity of those who would.
Re: Ukraine it’s not about who has what land, it’s about not allowing Russia to walk away with a ‘win’
Russia will walk away with the land they have taken, maybe not all of it, Putin is trying to be smart with that and is playing out a strategy.
The weakness for Ukraine is their need to join NATO, this plays into Putin's hands and he will exploit that need by taking more land. If he gets what he wants, he will no longer care if Ukraine is in or out of NATO, if doesn't get what he wants he will prevent them joining NATO.
This war is like a geopolitical chess match right now, Putin is sacrificing his pawns to take the part of the board he wants to keep.
Putin can’t prevent Ukraine joining NATO.
I think it’s vital that Russia can’t take any territory from Ukraine, personally. You don’t embolden dictators like Putin, because he won’t stop there.
Yes he can and will continue to do so, why do you think they haven't joined yet.
NATO will not allow Ukraine to join whilst they are in conflict over their borders that are moving, their own rules.
This is a basic rule, Article 5’s collective defence clause specifically to stop NATO countries being drawn into existing conflict outside of the member groups.
If Ukraine do join NATO, they will need to have reached a peace deal with Russia.
And peace will come. But it can’t come with Putin winning land - that’s setting up greater problems ahead.
Realism or idealism, the facts are in front of you, but you are sharing your opinion on a moral outcome, not an outcome that will be inevitable for the an end to the war and Ukraine joining NATO.
Realpolitik, Putin will keep land and control the outcomes.
And move on to new land grabs.mabey mabey not who knows for definite or can you see the future
Indeed, maybe one illegal land grab will sate him. Who knows?!"the way you are posting it seems as that is what you think he is going to do that's why I asked if u can see the future,fact is only putin knows what he is going to do,anyway I don't think there are many non nato country's on russias borders anymore | |||
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"Once the gay porn, money laundering dwarf zalensky has been got rid of yeah." Is there something wrong with viewing gay porn, or being short? | |||
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"if the righty retards think that putin will kow-tow to trump then they really are imbiciles "Strong words there maybe not aimed in the right direction?. I’d genuinely like to hear your opinion, how do you think this war will actually end? | |||
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"Ukraine should never have given up it's nukes. Any country that has them now will never give them up. If Ukraine had kept them Russia wouldn't have invaded them and took Crimea years ago. " Putin promised to recognise Ukrainian sovereignty and the West promised to protect them. Apparently new negotiations are going to save them this time and the West are going to check that Putin isn’t crossing his fingers when he makes promises. | |||
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"Didnt trump say that he would end the war in ukraine on his first day at the office? I wonder if people really believed he could do that. I knew straight away that it wouldnt be achievable. What is your view about it, do you think that many really believed he could do it so quickly and did trump think it would be so easy too? I have no doubt it will be done and dusted by summer,my guess is zelensky is gona be told to sit down and come to some agreement with putin otherwise u.s aid stops,won't be a bad thing ukrain may be left with some semblance of a country and some of there male population left intact,you can be sure if u.s aid stops no one else will be picking up the slack If the deal involves ceding land to Russia, it’s a stitch up. russia won't be giving land back that they have already taken and there prepared to grind on,question is do ukraine have the manpower to carry on indefinatley,the amount of desertion going on my guess is no,and nato troops are not coming to the rescue no matter how much people want them to Sacrificing land to meekly appease Putinhey im just being a realist, putin isnt giving that land back and he is prepared to fight on until the last ukrainian, and it looks like the ones prepared to fught is getting less and less Oh it absolutely is realistic, I agree. And it reinforces the need for Ukraine and others to join NATO. why they are at war or have disputed borders that isnt happening, and any peace deal agreed with russia is goung to include them not joining nato, plus there are certain countrys who wont agree to them joining same goes for joining the eu, it may not be fair it may be something you dont agree with but war isnt fair there is always a victor and a loser its the way of the world unfortunatley What bit of the UK would you be wiling to sacrifice to a theoretical invader? The answer is Basildon, yes final answer Basildon.
On this point, when you were posting under your old profile I remember clearly you saying you would not take up arms for a piece of rock (UK), or how land is not worth fighting over and you would simply move with your family. You seem to have had a radical change in your opinion.
Why the change of mind?
I’ve not changed my mind at all. I won’t take up arms for a piece of rock. I’m just exploring potential duplicity of those who would.
Re: Ukraine it’s not about who has what land, it’s about not allowing Russia to walk away with a ‘win’
Russia will walk away with the land they have taken, maybe not all of it, Putin is trying to be smart with that and is playing out a strategy.
The weakness for Ukraine is their need to join NATO, this plays into Putin's hands and he will exploit that need by taking more land. If he gets what he wants, he will no longer care if Ukraine is in or out of NATO, if doesn't get what he wants he will prevent them joining NATO.
This war is like a geopolitical chess match right now, Putin is sacrificing his pawns to take the part of the board he wants to keep.
Putin can’t prevent Ukraine joining NATO.
I think it’s vital that Russia can’t take any territory from Ukraine, personally. You don’t embolden dictators like Putin, because he won’t stop there.
Yes he can and will continue to do so, why do you think they haven't joined yet.
NATO will not allow Ukraine to join whilst they are in conflict over their borders that are moving, their own rules.
This is a basic rule, Article 5’s collective defence clause specifically to stop NATO countries being drawn into existing conflict outside of the member groups.
If Ukraine do join NATO, they will need to have reached a peace deal with Russia.
And peace will come. But it can’t come with Putin winning land - that’s setting up greater problems ahead.
Realism or idealism, the facts are in front of you, but you are sharing your opinion on a moral outcome, not an outcome that will be inevitable for the an end to the war and Ukraine joining NATO.
Realpolitik, Putin will keep land and control the outcomes.
And move on to new land grabs."Eventually maybe. But a few factors put that into doubt. Where would he attack next? The Baltic states or Poland? who knows? But one thing is certain, he won't be taking on a NATO country any time soon and they are all members. He's lost way to much kit and far too many men in Ukraine. It will take a long time to get back to where he was 3 years ago and even then, with all that build up, he failed miserably. Remember the road to Kiev? Then Putin's age and health come into play. Can he last long enough to see through the build up that would be needed? And who would come after him? At the moment he is pretty much untouchable in Moscow but any successor will be very vulnerable. There will be plenty of old scores to be settled after he is gone. Maybe out of the dust a leader with a cleaner pair of hands will emerge. Someone we can actually deal with. | |||
