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"How did she do so much damage exactly?" What's your recommendation of her and her impact? Norfolk n chance she did anything negative? | |||
"How did she do so much damage exactly? What's your recommendation of her and her impact? Norfolk n chance she did anything negative?" I asked first  | |||
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"How did she do so much damage exactly? What's your recommendation of her and her impact? Norfolk n chance she did anything negative? I asked first "Here's the first question 'Norfolk n chance that she had no impact on your raised interest rates, mortgages that got pulled etc?' | |||
"How did she do so much damage exactly? What's your recommendation of her and her impact? Norfolk n chance she did anything negative? I asked first
Here's the first question
'Norfolk n chance that she had no impact on your raised interest rates, mortgages that got pulled etc?' "Come on 
You are saying she crashed the economy, how specifically did she do that?
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"How did she do so much damage exactly? What's your recommendation of her and her impact? Norfolk n chance she did anything negative? I asked first
Here's the first question
'Norfolk n chance that she had no impact on your raised interest rates, mortgages that got pulled etc?'
Come on
You are saying she crashed the economy, how specifically did she do that?
"Still in avoidance | |||
"How did she do so much damage exactly? What's your recommendation of her and her impact? Norfolk n chance she did anything negative? I asked first
Here's the first question
'Norfolk n chance that she had no impact on your raised interest rates, mortgages that got pulled etc?'
Come on
You are saying she crashed the economy, how specifically did she do that?
Still in avoidance "Oh come on, it is a simple question, how did Truss crash the economy. I hear people saying this all the time so there must be something to hang your hat on. | |||
"How did she do so much damage exactly?" | |||
"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly?" yes, I'm all ears, go for it. | |||
"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 | |||
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"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881" Thanks Ben 
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding. | |||
"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 Thanks Ben
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding."im sure they did, didn't they, Mrs x | |||
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"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 Thanks Ben
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding.im sure they did, didn't they, Mrs x"No, people just parrot Truss crashed the economy, when asked how it always goes quiet, it is as if a headline is all that is needed
Read back through the posts, I can't see anyone telling me the how... | |||
"This makes an interesting read: https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-real-culprit-in-britains-bond-meltdown-liz-truss-bank-of-england-inside-job-c320b5a7" It is a shame it is behind a paywall, but it does shine a light from what I can see. | |||
"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 Thanks Ben
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding.im sure they did, didn't they, Mrs x
No, people just parrot Truss crashed the economy, when asked how it always goes quiet, it is as if a headline is all that is needed
Read back through the posts, I can't see anyone telling me the how..."But they don't have to do they. The media gave a voice to experts in this field and they said that Truss crashed the economy. It's either arrogance or incompetence to ignore experts in most fields. You wouldn't go see a doctor and then refuse to take his advice would you, it's just not advisable. You'd listen to a doctor surely in such circumstances. So here you'd listen to leading economists and that's what people are doing, aren't they. So they don't need to tell you from their understanding, they are just passing on the information they have heard from economic experts reporting on the Truss budget. It would be foolish to take the word off someone on a swingers site but ignore the experts. Mrs x | |||
"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 Thanks Ben
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding.im sure they did, didn't they, Mrs x
No, people just parrot Truss crashed the economy, when asked how it always goes quiet, it is as if a headline is all that is needed
Read back through the posts, I can't see anyone telling me the how...But they don't have to do they. The media gave a voice to experts in this field and they said that Truss crashed the economy. It's either arrogance or incompetence to ignore experts in most fields. You wouldn't go see a doctor and then refuse to take his advice would you, it's just not advisable. You'd listen to a doctor surely in such circumstances. So here you'd listen to leading economists and that's what people are doing, aren't they.
So they don't need to tell you from their understanding, they are just passing on the information they have heard from economic experts reporting on the Truss budget. It would be foolish to take the word off someone on a swingers site but ignore the experts.
Mrs x"I would hope a doctor isn't that biased, I would agree.  | |||
"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 Thanks Ben
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding.im sure they did, didn't they, Mrs x
No, people just parrot Truss crashed the economy, when asked how it always goes quiet, it is as if a headline is all that is needed
Read back through the posts, I can't see anyone telling me the how...But they don't have to do they. The media gave a voice to experts in this field and they said that Truss crashed the economy. It's either arrogance or incompetence to ignore experts in most fields. You wouldn't go see a doctor and then refuse to take his advice would you, it's just not advisable. You'd listen to a doctor surely in such circumstances. So here you'd listen to leading economists and that's what people are doing, aren't they.
So they don't need to tell you from their understanding, they are just passing on the information they have heard from economic experts reporting on the Truss budget. It would be foolish to take the word off someone on a swingers site but ignore the experts.
Mrs x
I would hope a doctor isn't that biased, I would agree.
"I'm not foolish enough to believe some people have an agenda but when you have lots of experts saying the same thing then surely that's the concensus of the profession and it can be trusted. Such experts are consulted because of their expertise but also their integrity. Once integrity is lost then the public will lose confidence in the expert and it will adversely effect their career and they don't want that. It's in all experts best interests to be be factual when using their expertise. So the public will take the information given to them so that they can process a situation and understand what's going on. So that's why others on this forum do not have to explain anything about Truss crashing the budget from their understanding, they are just passing on the experts understanding of the issue. Unless you are 'the' expert, one of the 'leading lights' on a particular subject, that's what you are doing too. Mrs x | |||
"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 Thanks Ben
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding.im sure they did, didn't they, Mrs x
No, people just parrot Truss crashed the economy, when asked how it always goes quiet, it is as if a headline is all that is needed
Read back through the posts, I can't see anyone telling me the how...But they don't have to do they. The media gave a voice to experts in this field and they said that Truss crashed the economy. It's either arrogance or incompetence to ignore experts in most fields. You wouldn't go see a doctor and then refuse to take his advice would you, it's just not advisable. You'd listen to a doctor surely in such circumstances. So here you'd listen to leading economists and that's what people are doing, aren't they.
So they don't need to tell you from their understanding, they are just passing on the information they have heard from economic experts reporting on the Truss budget. It would be foolish to take the word off someone on a swingers site but ignore the experts.
Mrs x
I would hope a doctor isn't that biased, I would agree.
"I wonder if Reeves can use the “experts are biased “ excuse? | |||
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"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 Thanks Ben
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding.im sure they did, didn't they, Mrs x
No, people just parrot Truss crashed the economy, when asked how it always goes quiet, it is as if a headline is all that is needed
Read back through the posts, I can't see anyone telling me the how...But they don't have to do they. The media gave a voice to experts in this field and they said that Truss crashed the economy. It's either arrogance or incompetence to ignore experts in most fields. You wouldn't go see a doctor and then refuse to take his advice would you, it's just not advisable. You'd listen to a doctor surely in such circumstances. So here you'd listen to leading economists and that's what people are doing, aren't they.
So they don't need to tell you from their understanding, they are just passing on the information they have heard from economic experts reporting on the Truss budget. It would be foolish to take the word off someone on a swingers site but ignore the experts.
Mrs x
I would hope a doctor isn't that biased, I would agree.
I'm not foolish enough to believe some people have an agenda but when you have lots of experts saying the same thing then surely that's the concensus of the profession and it can be trusted.
Such experts are consulted because of their expertise but also their integrity. Once integrity is lost then the public will lose confidence in the expert and it will adversely effect their career and they don't want that. It's in all experts best interests to be be factual when using their expertise.
So the public will take the information given to them so that they can process a situation and understand what's going on.
So that's why others on this forum do not have to explain anything about Truss crashing the budget from their understanding, they are just passing on the experts understanding of the issue.
Unless you are 'the' expert, one of the 'leading lights' on a particular subject, that's what you are doing too.
Mrs x"Can you provide the answer to the question I asked? | |||
"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 Thanks Ben
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding.im sure they did, didn't they, Mrs x
No, people just parrot Truss crashed the economy, when asked how it always goes quiet, it is as if a headline is all that is needed
Read back through the posts, I can't see anyone telling me the how...But they don't have to do they. The media gave a voice to experts in this field and they said that Truss crashed the economy. It's either arrogance or incompetence to ignore experts in most fields. You wouldn't go see a doctor and then refuse to take his advice would you, it's just not advisable. You'd listen to a doctor surely in such circumstances. So here you'd listen to leading economists and that's what people are doing, aren't they.
So they don't need to tell you from their understanding, they are just passing on the information they have heard from economic experts reporting on the Truss budget. It would be foolish to take the word off someone on a swingers site but ignore the experts.
Mrs x
I would hope a doctor isn't that biased, I would agree.
I wonder if Reeves can use the “experts are biased “ excuse?"Of course she can't, she was the expert on the economy and it has no weight to my question; ref How did Truss crash the economy. Do you know how Truss crashed the economy? | |||
"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 Thanks Ben
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding.im sure they did, didn't they, Mrs x
No, people just parrot Truss crashed the economy, when asked how it always goes quiet, it is as if a headline is all that is needed
Read back through the posts, I can't see anyone telling me the how...But they don't have to do they. The media gave a voice to experts in this field and they said that Truss crashed the economy. It's either arrogance or incompetence to ignore experts in most fields. You wouldn't go see a doctor and then refuse to take his advice would you, it's just not advisable. You'd listen to a doctor surely in such circumstances. So here you'd listen to leading economists and that's what people are doing, aren't they.
So they don't need to tell you from their understanding, they are just passing on the information they have heard from economic experts reporting on the Truss budget. It would be foolish to take the word off someone on a swingers site but ignore the experts.
Mrs x
I would hope a doctor isn't that biased, I would agree.
I wonder if Reeves can use the “experts are biased “ excuse?
Of course she can't, she was the expert on the economy and it has no weight to my question; ref How did Truss crash the economy.
Do you know how Truss crashed the economy?
"I don't personally know but the experts have said she did. So in light of that the real question is why do you think she didn't? Mrs x | |||
"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 Thanks Ben
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding.im sure they did, didn't they, Mrs x
No, people just parrot Truss crashed the economy, when asked how it always goes quiet, it is as if a headline is all that is needed
Read back through the posts, I can't see anyone telling me the how...But they don't have to do they. The media gave a voice to experts in this field and they said that Truss crashed the economy. It's either arrogance or incompetence to ignore experts in most fields. You wouldn't go see a doctor and then refuse to take his advice would you, it's just not advisable. You'd listen to a doctor surely in such circumstances. So here you'd listen to leading economists and that's what people are doing, aren't they.
So they don't need to tell you from their understanding, they are just passing on the information they have heard from economic experts reporting on the Truss budget. It would be foolish to take the word off someone on a swingers site but ignore the experts.
Mrs x
I would hope a doctor isn't that biased, I would agree.
I wonder if Reeves can use the “experts are biased “ excuse?
Of course she can't, she was the expert on the economy and it has no weight to my question; ref How did Truss crash the economy.
Do you know how Truss crashed the economy?
I don't personally know but the experts have said she did.
So in light of that the real question is why do you think she didn't?
Mrs x"It’s obvious that many who say Truss crashed the economy don’t fully understand how or why, yet they’re happy to repeat it. It’s a complex issue involving LDI strategies, pension funds being vulnerable (again), the BoE's role, and market confidence. To be honest, writing a long explanation about these wouldn’t make much difference except to use up my time for no good reason. People only want the headline and that is fair enough if they don't want to have an opinion that they can support. | |||
"Truss is nothing more than a delusional self serving fool she lost a seat that was almost impossible to lose n now spends her time trying to suck up to another delusional twat in trump." | |||
"Truss is nothing more than a delusional self serving fool she lost a seat that was almost impossible to lose n now spends her time trying to suck up to another delusional twat in trump. " | |||
"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 Thanks Ben
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding.im sure they did, didn't they, Mrs x
No, people just parrot Truss crashed the economy, when asked how it always goes quiet, it is as if a headline is all that is needed
Read back through the posts, I can't see anyone telling me the how...But they don't have to do they. The media gave a voice to experts in this field and they said that Truss crashed the economy. It's either arrogance or incompetence to ignore experts in most fields. You wouldn't go see a doctor and then refuse to take his advice would you, it's just not advisable. You'd listen to a doctor surely in such circumstances. So here you'd listen to leading economists and that's what people are doing, aren't they.
So they don't need to tell you from their understanding, they are just passing on the information they have heard from economic experts reporting on the Truss budget. It would be foolish to take the word off someone on a swingers site but ignore the experts.
Mrs x
I would hope a doctor isn't that biased, I would agree.
I wonder if Reeves can use the “experts are biased “ excuse?
Of course she can't, she was the expert on the economy and it has no weight to my question; ref How did Truss crash the economy.
Do you know how Truss crashed the economy?
I don't personally know but the experts have said she did.
So in light of that the real question is why do you think she didn't?
Mrs x
It’s obvious that many who say Truss crashed the economy don’t fully understand how or why, yet they’re happy to repeat it.
It’s a complex issue involving LDI strategies, pension funds being vulnerable (again), the BoE's role, and market confidence. To be honest, writing a long explanation about these wouldn’t make much difference except to use up my time for no good reason. People only want the headline and that is fair enough if they don't want to have an opinion that they can support. "But that's the issue. It's not ordinary folk saying she crashed the economy it's world renowned experts, including those used on the media to give interviews, the national and international press, world renowned financial companies and academia around the world. You know that this was the case and the general consensus at the time, hence all the headlines. So it's not 'Joe Public's' fault for accepting this view point. She got slaughtered by this. Like I said I've no idea if it's right or wrong but that was the perception at the time and still is for the vast majority it seems. You seem to hold a different view. You seem to have some 'skin in the game", in that maybe financial services is your profession or you are an enthusiastic amateur investor. But it's clearly evident that you have some 'greater knowledge' than the rest of us by your obvious 'baiting' of the forum, asking them how Truss crashed the economy, so that you can demonstrate what you know to everyone and show us the error of our ways. And to be fair that's ok. You may even be right but the problem is it doesn't matter and for a couple of reasons. Unless your interest in this stems from you being a world class expert in this field then nobody is going to take your opinion over what they've previously heard from the 'important enought to get on the TV' experts they saw at the time. You can tell them everything you know but it just won't carry the same gravitas to persuade most people. The other thing is we know live in a world we're falsehoods and lies have become the new truth. How many times have you read that people no longer believe the MSM, Main Stream Media, but think for themselves. So we now have a system were some people are listening to pre adolescent boys, chatting shit to each other, over none regulated, none censored platforms like X and millions believe them. They actively prefer this method to get their information rather than MSM, peer reviewed papers and investigative journalism. Something is more factual by having more likes and views nowadays. The problem with this is whilst it's so easy to tell and spread a lie it's much harder to debunk. You may have the truth, know all the facts, have all the evidence but before you get it out to your audience you have to rebut all the lies. Unfortunately that's extremely difficult, due to the nature of social media. You can be clear, concise and factual but if you don't have enough support on X and the like then your pissing into the wind. So go ahead give everyone the benefit of your knowledge but I can almost guarantee you won't change anyone's mind that already thinks Truss crashed the economy. For you the damage was done within minutes of the stock markets reaction to her budget. The 'experts' gave their opinion on the matter and it's stuck like shit to the blanket. It's not the publics fault, it's just how things work nowadays, nobody cares much about the truth anymore it's all about the likes. Mrs x | |||
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"But that's the issue. It's not ordinary folk saying she crashed the economy it's world renowned experts, including those used on the media to give interviews, the national and international press, world renowned financial companies and academia around the world." I'm going to say that isn't true. Lots of economists are saying that Kwarteng's policies caused gilt yields to rise and that mortgage rates went up. I've not seen a single economist claim that those policies "crashed the economy". It's certainly true that Liz Truss' tenure saw a downtick in the economy, but it recovered pretty quickly, and the country continued in more or less the same way it was going before her premiership. There was no crashing of the economy. | |||
"But that's the issue. It's not ordinary folk saying she crashed the economy it's world renowned experts, including those used on the media to give interviews, the national and international press, world renowned financial companies and academia around the world. I'm going to say that isn't true. Lots of economists are saying that Kwarteng's policies caused gilt yields to rise and that mortgage rates went up. I've not seen a single economist claim that those policies "crashed the economy". It's certainly true that Liz Truss' tenure saw a downtick in the economy, but it recovered pretty quickly, and the country continued in more or less the same way it was going before her premiership. There was no crashing of the economy." I suppose those who saw their mortgage payments double, both domestic and business would argue that their life didn’t continue in more or less the same way. | |||
"But that's the issue. It's not ordinary folk saying she crashed the economy it's world renowned experts, including those used on the media to give interviews, the national and international press, world renowned financial companies and academia around the world." "I'm going to say that isn't true. Lots of economists are saying that Kwarteng's policies caused gilt yields to rise and that mortgage rates went up. I've not seen a single economist claim that those policies "crashed the economy". It's certainly true that Liz Truss' tenure saw a downtick in the economy, but it recovered pretty quickly, and the country continued in more or less the same way it was going before her premiership. There was no crashing of the economy." "I suppose those who saw their mortgage payments double, both domestic and business would argue that their life didn’t continue in more or less the same way." I'm sure there were people that went bankrupt, and businesses that went under fire to the increased mortgage payments. But those rates were going to rise anyway, Truss' changes made it happen earlier rather than later, but they weren't the sole cause. Even so, for the vast majority of people life carried on about the same, or a bit worse, than before. The economy didn't stop functioning, and didn't require any repairs. the economy wasn't "crashed". If someone can find me a certified economist that has used the phrase "crashed the economy", I'll happily admit that I'm wrong. | |||
"But that's the issue. It's not ordinary folk saying she crashed the economy it's world renowned experts, including those used on the media to give interviews, the national and international press, world renowned financial companies and academia around the world. I'm going to say that isn't true. Lots of economists are saying that Kwarteng's policies caused gilt yields to rise and that mortgage rates went up. I've not seen a single economist claim that those policies "crashed the economy". It's certainly true that Liz Truss' tenure saw a downtick in the economy, but it recovered pretty quickly, and the country continued in more or less the same way it was going before her premiership. There was no crashing of the economy." I'm saying it was 'claimed' that she crashed tge economy by everyone in the main stream media. There was pandemonium for a brief minute and she got the vast majority of tge blame for the downturn. You may be right now but then plenty of economists were claiming this. And that's my point, the damage has been done in the publics eyes, Truss Crashed the Economy, the headlines all stated and that's why she resigned. I'm not saying she did crash it, I'm just saying that's the perception of it. The damage has been done and it's going to be a monumental task for her to change this, even if she's right. That's all I'm saying, I like the majority find this too complicated an issue to come up with my own conclusions and that's why those first reports and predictions will live on longest in the publics memories, even if they are completely wrong. Mrs x | |||
"Wasn't trying to be derogatory to you at all. Just explaining why these things get traction and the truth is so hard to get out there now. Knowing nothing at all about this, I'm still inclined to accept that maybe you are correct. The little I've read about this might suggest that the price of Gilts currently means that tge economy is in a potentially worse off place than under Truss and that she's been unfairly blamed whilst Reeves is maybe getting away with it... for now. But like I said I know nothing about this and I'm probably so far off the truth I should be spouting my shit on X. Mrs x" I will reply to this post and not the other.... I said, I can write a long post on the why and when and nobody is going to read it. I challenge people who throw out Truss crashed the economy, to hopefully make them think for a second, how did she do that beyond the headline.. It obviously doesn't do that. As mentioned by Mr Discretion; Gilt yields did spike, but the broader issues (inflation, global instability, knee jerk reaction etc.) were already at play. As for my interest, I'm a consultant and work predominantly in M&A. | |||
"Wasn't trying to be derogatory to you at all. Just explaining why these things get traction and the truth is so hard to get out there now. Knowing nothing at all about this, I'm still inclined to accept that maybe you are correct. The little I've read about this might suggest that the price of Gilts currently means that tge economy is in a potentially worse off place than under Truss and that she's been unfairly blamed whilst Reeves is maybe getting away with it... for now. But like I said I know nothing about this and I'm probably so far off the truth I should be spouting my shit on X. Mrs x I will reply to this post and not the other.... I said, I can write a long post on the why and when and nobody is going to read it. I challenge people who throw out Truss crashed the economy, to hopefully make them think for a second, how did she do that beyond the headline.. It obviously doesn't do that. As mentioned by Mr Discretion; Gilt yields did spike, but the broader issues (inflation, global instability, knee jerk reaction etc.) were already at play. As for my interest, I'm a consultant and work predominantly in M&A. " Unfortunately they threw enough shit, it stuck and she'll never be able to clean it all off. The Internet is wonderful and awful in equal measure. It's literally destroyed the old saying of 'The truth will always out', because now it won't Zuckerburg and more importantly, Musk have put paid to that. Mrs x | |||
"I'm saying it was 'claimed' that she crashed tge economy by everyone in the main stream media." Up to now you've been claiming that 'expert economists' had said that she "crashed the economy". Now you're changing that to 'the mainstream media said it'. "You may be right now but then plenty of economists were claiming this." No they weren't. At the time several economists said her budget was a bad idea (while some thought otherwise). No economist at the time said that her policies had "crashed the economy". "I'm not saying she did crash it, I'm just saying that's the perception of it." We can agree on that. Many people believe it, despite it being clearly untrue. | |||
"I'm saying it was 'claimed' that she crashed tge economy by everyone in the main stream media. Up to now you've been claiming that 'expert economists' had said that she "crashed the economy". Now you're changing that to 'the mainstream media said it'. You may be right now but then plenty of economists were claiming this. No they weren't. At the time several economists said her budget was a bad idea (while some thought otherwise). No economist at the time said that her policies had "crashed the economy". I'm not saying she did crash it, I'm just saying that's the perception of it. We can agree on that. Many people believe it, despite it being clearly untrue." I've not changed my mind or saying anything differently. The MSM is just a platform to pass on the story, whatever that is. They do that by interviewing, or giving airtime to 'experts' in the field. I had said 'economists' once on this thread. I've just assumed that the experts they chose were economists. So like I said the public can't be blamed for believing what they are told. The markets dipped, sterling fell to its lowest levels in a while and whilst it may not be true, it was reported that the market crashed and it was the Truss Mini Budget did it. So I've just proved my own point, the public aren't equipped for complicated issues such as this and will switch of when it gets technical and 'boring'. They will only remember headlines and what effects them, in this case higher mortgage rates. So unfortunately "Truss Crashed tge Market' is most people's truth regardless of whether that's right or wrong. Reason for that is as I've stated the influence of social media and even if you are 100% right you are not going to change many opinions and if you don't believe that go on X and try, see how far you get. That's all I'm saying, likes matter more than the truth nowadays. Mrs x | |||
" That's all I'm saying, likes matter more than the truth nowadays. Mrs x" Fucking hell!  | |||
" That's all I'm saying, likes matter more than the truth nowadays. Mrs x " Your a fine one giving lectures about the truth! | |||
" That's all I'm saying, likes matter more than the truth nowadays. Mrs x Your a fine one giving lectures about the truth!" Haha, your pants still on fire i see, Mrs x | |||
" That's all I'm saying, likes matter more than the truth nowadays. Mrs x Your a fine one giving lectures about the truth!Haha, your pants still on fire i see, Mrs x" You forgot to call me Dan | |||
" That's all I'm saying, likes matter more than the truth nowadays. Mrs x Your a fine one giving lectures about the truth!Haha, your pants still on fire i see, Mrs x You forgot to call me Dan "Haha, Mrs x | |||
"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 Thanks Ben
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding.im sure they did, didn't they, Mrs x
No, people just parrot Truss crashed the economy, when asked how it always goes quiet, it is as if a headline is all that is needed
Read back through the posts, I can't see anyone telling me the how...But they don't have to do they. The media gave a voice to experts in this field and they said that Truss crashed the economy. It's either arrogance or incompetence to ignore experts in most fields. You wouldn't go see a doctor and then refuse to take his advice would you, it's just not advisable. You'd listen to a doctor surely in such circumstances. So here you'd listen to leading economists and that's what people are doing, aren't they.
So they don't need to tell you from their understanding, they are just passing on the information they have heard from economic experts reporting on the Truss budget. It would be foolish to take the word off someone on a swingers site but ignore the experts.
Mrs x
I would hope a doctor isn't that biased, I would agree.
I wonder if Reeves can use the “experts are biased “ excuse?
Of course she can't, she was the expert on the economy and it has no weight to my question; ref How did Truss crash the economy.
Do you know how Truss crashed the economy?
"The fact that she put in a load of unfunded tax cuts, spooked the market (whoever they are), ignored the OBR, didn't have a clue what she was doing. Caused lots of banks to remove mortgage offers from the market and the bank of England had to step in. Why did all that happen? Because she's a fucking moron who crashed the economy. Her own party binned her before the electorate had a chance. I don't need experts to see a cause and an effect. Let's here your version of how none of that happened and she didn't crash the economy.  | |||
"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 Thanks Ben
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding.im sure they did, didn't they, Mrs x
No, people just parrot Truss crashed the economy, when asked how it always goes quiet, it is as if a headline is all that is needed
Read back through the posts, I can't see anyone telling me the how...But they don't have to do they. The media gave a voice to experts in this field and they said that Truss crashed the economy. It's either arrogance or incompetence to ignore experts in most fields. You wouldn't go see a doctor and then refuse to take his advice would you, it's just not advisable. You'd listen to a doctor surely in such circumstances. So here you'd listen to leading economists and that's what people are doing, aren't they.
So they don't need to tell you from their understanding, they are just passing on the information they have heard from economic experts reporting on the Truss budget. It would be foolish to take the word off someone on a swingers site but ignore the experts.
Mrs x
I would hope a doctor isn't that biased, I would agree.
I wonder if Reeves can use the “experts are biased “ excuse?
Of course she can't, she was the expert on the economy and it has no weight to my question; ref How did Truss crash the economy.
Do you know how Truss crashed the economy?
The fact that she put in a load of unfunded tax cuts, spooked the market (whoever they are), ignored the OBR, didn't have a clue what she was doing. Caused lots of banks to remove mortgage offers from the market and the bank of England had to step in.
Why did all that happen? Because she's a fucking moron who crashed the economy. Her own party binned her before the electorate had a chance.
I don't need experts to see a cause and an effect.
Let's here your version of how none of that happened and she didn't crash the economy.
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"You need telling ! How did she do so much damage exactly? yes, I'm all ears, go for it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66897881 Thanks Ben
I was hoping the people who say Truss crashed the economy can tell me how, from their own understanding.im sure they did, didn't they, Mrs x
No, people just parrot Truss crashed the economy, when asked how it always goes quiet, it is as if a headline is all that is needed
Read back through the posts, I can't see anyone telling me the how...But they don't have to do they. The media gave a voice to experts in this field and they said that Truss crashed the economy. It's either arrogance or incompetence to ignore experts in most fields. You wouldn't go see a doctor and then refuse to take his advice would you, it's just not advisable. You'd listen to a doctor surely in such circumstances. So here you'd listen to leading economists and that's what people are doing, aren't they.
So they don't need to tell you from their understanding, they are just passing on the information they have heard from economic experts reporting on the Truss budget. It would be foolish to take the word off someone on a swingers site but ignore the experts.
Mrs x
I would hope a doctor isn't that biased, I would agree.
I wonder if Reeves can use the “experts are biased “ excuse?
Of course she can't, she was the expert on the economy and it has no weight to my question; ref How did Truss crash the economy.
Do you know how Truss crashed the economy?
The fact that she put in a load of unfunded tax cuts, spooked the market (whoever they are), ignored the OBR, didn't have a clue what she was doing. Caused lots of banks to remove mortgage offers from the market and the bank of England had to step in.
Why did all that happen? Because she's a fucking moron who crashed the economy. Her own party binned her before the electorate had a chance.
I don't need experts to see a cause and an effect.
Let's here your version of how none of that happened and she didn't crash the economy.
perfect"Did warn you  Mrs x | |||
