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By *usybee73 OP Man 6 weeks ago
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Another incident
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75w2xqewx5o
See it most days, idiots on them, on the pavements or racing across parks.
Now Birmingham council are on about banning them from the city centre due to the risk of potentially accidents, especially with those on deliveroo/just eat ect. Are they insured? Hire and reward? |
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By *otMe66Man 6 weeks ago
Terra Firma |
I have seen 2 types of these bikes, the E-Bikes that are built within the guidelines of the law, and E-Bikes that are capable of 50+ mph, they look nothing like a push bike, are usually owned by young men dressed head to toe in black and wearing balaclavas as the wheelie down a busy A road. |
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By (user no longer on site) 6 weeks ago
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It's the favoured mode of transport fused by the drug dealers locally.
Never seen a copper take the slightest bit of interest even when they whizz down the pavement at stupid speeds.
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"Another incident
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75w2xqewx5o
See it most days, idiots on them, on the pavements or racing across parks.
Now Birmingham council are on about banning them from the city centre due to the risk of potentially accidents, especially with those on deliveroo/just eat ect. Are they insured? Hire and reward?"
Am I missing something? There are already robust and clear rules.
The trouble is that the rules are not enforced at all. Police are too concerned about injuring the scrotes riding illegally to try and stop them.
Chase them, stop them by any means including knocking them off the machine, prosecute the rider if they survive and scrap the machine. Zero tolerance would deal with the problem quickly. |
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"Another incident
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75w2xqewx5o
See it most days, idiots on them, on the pavements or racing across parks.
Now Birmingham council are on about banning them from the city centre due to the risk of potentially accidents, especially with those on deliveroo/just eat ect. Are they insured? Hire and reward?
Am I missing something? There are already robust and clear rules.
The trouble is that the rules are not enforced at all. Police are too concerned about injuring the scrotes riding illegally to try and stop them.
Chase them, stop them by any means including knocking them off the machine, prosecute the rider if they survive and scrap the machine. Zero tolerance would deal with the problem quickly."
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No, cycling and these scooters offer less traffic and are a tax free way for people to acess more jobs especially in semi rural areas where unless you drive, your very limited by busses.
All you bootlickers that want to regulate them and yet complain about car tax increases need to have a word with yourself.
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"Another incident
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75w2xqewx5o
See it most days, idiots on them, on the pavements or racing across parks.
Now Birmingham council are on about banning them from the city centre due to the risk of potentially accidents, especially with those on deliveroo/just eat ect. Are they insured? Hire and reward?"
No not ban them, but anyone misusing them should be made to put their tongue on the battery terminals.
If they kill a child or an invalid person or an old person 40yrs to death sentence depending on the incident circumstances.
Yeh they are pesky but they do have a good points, bit like guns.
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"Another incident
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c75w2xqewx5o
See it most days, idiots on them, on the pavements or racing across parks.
Now Birmingham council are on about banning them from the city centre due to the risk of potentially accidents, especially with those on deliveroo/just eat ect. Are they insured? Hire and reward?
Am I missing something? There are already robust and clear rules.
The trouble is that the rules are not enforced at all. Police are too concerned about injuring the scrotes riding illegally to try and stop them.
Chase them, stop them by any means including knocking them off the machine, prosecute the rider if they survive and scrap the machine. Zero tolerance would deal with the problem quickly. "
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"No, cycling and these scooters offer less traffic and are a tax free way for people to acess more jobs especially in semi rural areas where unless you drive, your very limited by busses.
All you bootlickers that want to regulate them and yet complain about car tax increases need to have a word with yourself.
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I kind of disagree, I live in a town affectionatly known as heavens waiting room. I have seen with my own eyes elderly people on mobility scooters (that are speed regulated if nothing else) drive the wrong way round round abouts, jump the curb and cross the road in front of traffic, take out a market stall, drive into my 8 mouth pregnant wife, knock her to the ground, and then throw an absolute tantrum when everybody rushed help her up and dared to block her path.
I understand the environmental benefits these scooters have and also get incredibly frustrated when my ebike cuts out at 15mph. But by the same token I've had a moron in his 50's on some kind of scooter with a seat zip by me at minimum 30mph on a footpath / cyclepath that is really busy with dog walkers, children, the elderly ect. On the road you could have taken a number plate and reported him, but even on bike, there was no way in hell I was catching up to him to tell him to slow down and have no idea who he is where he is from ect.
My rambling point is escooters and ebikes could be incredibly helpful and I personally would love to have one. But you can't disagree that these things are potentially incredibly dangerous. We have to legislate for the stupidest member of society and so far I haven't seen alot of evidence in my local community they can be used sensibly.
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In our part of Spain these things are a bloody menace.
There are rules, age limit, crash helmets, no double up Etc. But no-one enforces them. We regularly see very young kids riding 2 up without helmets and weaving from road to pavement with no idea or concern for safety.
Finally the local town hall is regulating the rental ones and limiting the number to 750. Down from literally thousands in the summer months.
Still way too many but a move in the right direction.
Germany is much different. All scooters need a reg number and insurance is compulsory.
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"In our part of Spain these things are a bloody menace.
There are rules, age limit, crash helmets, no double up Etc. But no-one enforces them. We regularly see very young kids riding 2 up without helmets and weaving from road to pavement with no idea or concern for safety.
Finally the local town hall is regulating the rental ones and limiting the number to 750. Down from literally thousands in the summer months.
Still way too many but a move in the right direction.
Germany is much different. All scooters need a reg number and insurance is compulsory.
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I think Germany seems to have the right idea, because our system clearly isn't working. No tax and or insurance then confiscate and scrap. |
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By *lan157Man 4 weeks ago
a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex |
Laws exist over legal and illegal e-bikes and scooters use but they are not enforced by the police and the menace dealt with. It's another issue that's causing the decline in our country. I despair at politicians. |
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"In our part of Spain these things are a bloody menace.
There are rules, age limit, crash helmets, no double up Etc. But no-one enforces them. We regularly see very young kids riding 2 up without helmets and weaving from road to pavement with no idea or concern for safety.
Finally the local town hall is regulating the rental ones and limiting the number to 750. Down from literally thousands in the summer months.
Still way too many but a move in the right direction.
Germany is much different. All scooters need a reg number and insurance is compulsory.
I think Germany seems to have the right idea, because our system clearly isn't working. No tax and or insurance then confiscate and scrap."
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"Laws exist over legal and illegal e-bikes and scooters use but they are not enforced by the police and the menace dealt with. It's another issue that's causing the decline in our country. I despair at politicians."
Hear hear. I too despair for this country. Politicians at local and national level talk shite and are more interested in virtue signalling and pandering to every nit not minority, instead of getting the basics right for the long suffering majority. Get the basics right, if there's money left for anything else, fine, if not then fuck the nit nots and their minority agendas.
It's a bit like having a leaky roof...do you spend £5000 getting it replaced or do you blow your budget on state of the art home entertainment? |
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"Laws exist over legal and illegal e-bikes and scooters use but they are not enforced by the police and the menace dealt with. It's another issue that's causing the decline in our country. I despair at politicians.
Hear hear. I too despair for this country. Politicians at local and national level talk shite and are more interested in virtue signalling and pandering to every nit not minority, instead of getting the basics right for the long suffering majority. Get the basics right, if there's money left for anything else, fine, if not then fuck the nit nots and their minority agendas.
It's a bit like having a leaky roof...do you spend £5000 getting it replaced or do you blow your budget on state of the art home entertainment?"
Nice analogy.
Sadly it's not just a UK problem.
One look at the current crop of politicians in Germany is all the proof you need.
Ever higher taxes and a flat lining economy. What does the German government do?
Funds cycle lanes in Peru.  |
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"Laws exist over legal and illegal e-bikes and scooters use but they are not enforced by the police and the menace dealt with. It's another issue that's causing the decline in our country. I despair at politicians.
Hear hear. I too despair for this country. Politicians at local and national level talk shite and are more interested in virtue signalling and pandering to every nit not minority, instead of getting the basics right for the long suffering majority. Get the basics right, if there's money left for anything else, fine, if not then fuck the nit nots and their minority agendas.
It's a bit like having a leaky roof...do you spend £5000 getting it replaced or do you blow your budget on state of the art home entertainment?"
What's a nit not please?
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