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It won't happen, but if it did, the act would disenfranchise the majority of voters who recently elected a Labour government. There would clearly be civil unrest. The military and police combined would be way too small to control events. As for Musk, I'd have though his adopted US and native SA have far bigger problems than the UK. |
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By *amantMan 3 weeks ago
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Of all the things which simply will not occur in 2025, this one is one of the least likely things to happen. We may end up at a point at which the Prime Minister opts for a snap election, owing to better polling, or too many of his MPs lose faith in him. At current polling neither seem particularly likely but polling changes so you never know.
As for the Monarch just dissolving Parliament without the consent of Parliament itself, that is just barmy. The idea is born out of increasingly more people leaving Musk's X from Britain than anything else. The mainstream are leaving it and are not coming back. So he can only appeal to the unhinged and this is a shameless attempt at it. He knows the King cannot dissolve Parliament unilaterally. Even talking about it as a thought experiment feels daft because it just isn't going to happen. Parliament only gets dissolved if an election is fairly close anyway (Sunak), the Prime Minister loses confidence in enough MPs (Callaghan), or the Prime Minister wants one and enough MPs agree (Johnson). There is no reality in which the King will force a new election.
The reality we live in, Labour's last electoral performance means if Starmer wants an election, he gets one. Johnson wanted an election but he had to take a no deal brexit off the table to get one because after the 2017 election he didn't have the numbers to push one through. For Starmer not to have the numbers, to hold on or win, he'd need to lose a hell of a lot of his own side. And memories of Johnson, ousting a leader who won an historic victory (against a dreadful opponent) and trying to remove Corbyn unsuccessfully, live long in the memory. There is every chance Starmer is removed early but is subsequently replaced by someone far worse. He is deeply unpopular and the next election could be a struggle. But imagine Labour (and the country) under the leadership of Clive Lewis, or Richard Burgeon. I mean, it's an absolute disaster waiting to happen. Sure they don't appear favourite, but neither did Liz Truss. And the membership of the Labour Party will have final say again.
It's why I find predictions of Starmer being removed just so unlikely. Things would need to get a lot worse. I doubt they will, things are already pretty dreadful. His strategy is "get the bad news out of the way and chuck any meaningful change into the long grass". Generally not the behaviour of someone who wants an early election but more importantly, unlikely to be a winning one in the same way he was in opposition. |
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It's a not in anyone's focus except in the mind of someone who incorrectly assumes that our head of state has the same political status as an elected president.
Theoretically possible but constitutionally a non starter. |
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"It won't happen, but if it did, the act would disenfranchise the majority of voters who recently elected a Labour government. There would clearly be civil unrest. The military and police combined would be way too small to control events. As for Musk, I'd have though his adopted US and native SA have far bigger problems than the UK."
im sure its something like only 1.3% of the population to overturn the goverment police army ect, in theory once every cell is full 1 person arrested in each police veihcle and an officer with 1 person in cuffs and same for the army then what? Unless they start shooting its just a numbers game
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By *otMe66Man 3 weeks ago
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Musk is in danger of ending his time in the global political spotlight rather quickly.
He is showing no signs of understanding the difference between political brinkmanship and personal opinion. |
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"It won't happen, but if it did, the act would disenfranchise the majority of voters who recently elected a Labour government. There would clearly be civil unrest. The military and police combined would be way too small to control events. As for Musk, I'd have though his adopted US and native SA have far bigger problems than the UK.im sure its something like only 1.3% of the population to overturn the goverment police army ect, in theory once every cell is full 1 person arrested in each police veihcle and an officer with 1 person in cuffs and same for the army then what? Unless they start shooting its just a numbers game "
In the unlikely event of civil unrest it would be a smaller group than the 1.3% I’d be surprised if it even got to .5% of the population. |
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"This time Charles takes Oliver Starmers head off.
I suspect if the monarch dissolved parliament without the consent of the prime minister it might be the end for both of them "
Good result, then.
Win win. |
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We saw a show a few years ago called King Charles III. It was great and actually predicted a few things. The premise was exactly this - King Charles dissolving parliament and the ensuing animosity.
It's never going to happen - the monarchy operates with the grudging tolerance of society and is not going to rock the boat without an existential crisis. Whatever Musk thinks, it ain't gonna happen. |
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"The fact that musk was advocating for Tommy Robinson yesterday and has no idea how uk law actually works says a lot… "
Let’s be completely honest:
Felon musk has been going down a rabbit hole for the past few years. Since his daughter transitioned and publicly stated she doesn’t want contact with him because he’s an intolerant nincompoop, he went from pretend liberal to hard right extremist.
As such, he shows the classic signs of a deteriorating contact with reality: disdain for reality, delusions, lack of hindsight, disdain for rules (and he thinks they don’t apply to himself), a strange concept of freedom of speech (he thinks he can call people p%%do or ask to send them to jail with no consequences )and an attraction for the extremists (his support for that scum who is in jail for good reason shows exactly that). Add to that his iron man complex and his ignorance of laws..
I think trump was happy to have him on board, and that he bought Twitter and made a Pravda of it. It was useful for his campaign. As the months go on, I think he’ll realise he’s more of an issue and will dump him like he did with steve bannon when he was of no use. |
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"The fact that musk was advocating for Tommy Robinson yesterday and has no idea how uk law actually works says a lot…
Let’s be completely honest:
Felon musk has been going down a rabbit hole for the past few years. Since his daughter transitioned and publicly stated she doesn’t want contact with him because he’s an intolerant nincompoop, he went from pretend liberal to hard right extremist.
As such, he shows the classic signs of a deteriorating contact with reality: disdain for reality, delusions, lack of hindsight, disdain for rules (and he thinks they don’t apply to himself), a strange concept of freedom of speech (he thinks he can call people p%%do or ask to send them to jail with no consequences )and an attraction for the extremists (his support for that scum who is in jail for good reason shows exactly that). Add to that his iron man complex and his ignorance of laws..
I think trump was happy to have him on board, and that he bought Twitter and made a Pravda of it. It was useful for his campaign. As the months go on, I think he’ll realise he’s more of an issue and will dump him like he did with steve bannon when he was of no use."
A good summary, the man is deranged. Once King Donald I is enthroned, Musk will be expelled from the King's Court, and likely lose his business empire too. |
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Charlie does not have the power to do so parliament have the sovereignty on this.
All Charlies is ceremonial this is not even worth talking about.
Musk should be ignored he is trying to stir trouble up. |
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"Personally I think Elon musk should keep his nose out of our fucking country's politics."
There are many, many non UK nationals who comment on and fund political activity in the UK. Why is Elon Musk singled out ? The grooming gang issue is a good example of how incompetent and corrupt a large part of our state institutions are - anyone who shines a light on that darkness should be welcomed. |
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