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The world (rightly?) celebrated the fall of the brutal and murderous Assad regime. However, as with Gaddafi, Sadam Hussein and others, perhaps the cure might be worse than the disease.
In Afghanistan a few years ago, the incoming Taliban attempted to placate the West and many Afghans by declaring that they would respect women's rights. This has now been shown up as Taqiyya (permitted lying where the end justifies the means, e.g. for achieving victory in war, or telling one's wife that her food tastes great). It appears that some of the celebrations over the "moderate" nature of the incoming Syrian leadership might have be overoptimistic.
BBC News - New Syrian government's school curriculum changes spark concern
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1ln12056ppo
In the educational curriculum, at least, women are slowly being marginalised, Jews and Christians are now described as having "strayed from the true path", nationalism is being replaced with religious zeal. While it's understandable that the glorious Assad regime is no longer venerated, these other innovations are bothering some.
Secularism is, essentially, being eroded. Is this the beginning of a marvellous ethical religious renaissance in Syria, or is it going to become more like Afghanistan (a utopia, according to some...)? More generally, is it possible to have a functional and positive society governed by religion?
Perhaps religion should be limited to a set of guiding principles? |
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I think that we should let Muslim and Arab people sort out Muslim and Arab issues rather than the west trying to force a western ideology in a country that doesn't want it.
Perhaps terrorism will diminish if we let them sort it out themselves.
However difficult to stand by and do nothing when human rights are being abused.
Seems the leaders only intervene when it's financially beneficial or for political points. |
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By *otMe66Man 2 days ago
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Syria’s numerous Islamic factions make power struggles inevitable. External interference risks strengthening potentially hostile factions by providing them with propaganda material highlighting western interference.
The Syrian people need to find the courage to stand up, and dictate the leadership they want for their country. If they allow guns and religion to dictate the next phase of leadership, they will have not moved forward at all, unless that is what they want? |
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The West always makes the mistake of assuming other countries want democracy. When I lived in other countries I was surprised how little regard, or desire for, there was for democracy. People seemed completely ambivalent about the concept. |
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By *otMe66Man 2 days ago
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"The West always makes the mistake of assuming other countries want democracy. When I lived in other countries I was surprised how little regard, or desire for, there was for democracy. People seemed completely ambivalent about the concept."
Agreed, not having social safety nets and services that you rely on the government to provide, weakens the importance of government structure and strengthens self reliance. |
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"I think that we should let Muslim and Arab people sort out Muslim and Arab issues..."
Should anyone get involved where non-Arab & Muslims (e.g. Kurds, Christians, Yazidis and Druze) are being oppressed, ensl@ved and killed?
It's a difficult one. Fuck 'em all, or become a white saviour? |
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"I think that we should let Muslim and Arab people sort out Muslim and Arab issues...
Should anyone get involved where non-Arab & Muslims (e.g. Kurds, Christians, Yazidis and Druze) are being oppressed, ensl@ved and killed?
It's a difficult one. Fuck 'em all, or become a white saviour?"
it is difficult but we have tried it failed so walk away stop sending aid which ends up in the hands of the wrong ppl |
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We shouldn't expect to impose our cultural beliefs on those countries and should leave them govern themselves
In the same way people who visit / want to settle here should understand they cannot expect to impose their cultural beliefs on us |
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By *eacresteMan 2 days ago
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"The world (rightly?) celebrated the fall of the brutal and murderous Assad regime. However, as with Gaddafi, Sadam Hussein and others, perhaps the cure might be worse than the disease.
In Afghanistan a few years ago, the incoming Taliban attempted to placate the West and many Afghans by declaring that they would respect women's rights. This has now been shown up as Taqiyya (permitted lying where the end justifies the means, e.g. for achieving victory in war, or telling one's wife that her food tastes great). It appears that some of the celebrations over the "moderate" nature of the incoming Syrian leadership might have be overoptimistic.
BBC News - New Syrian government's school curriculum changes spark concern
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1ln12056ppo
In the educational curriculum, at least, women are slowly being marginalised, Jews and Christians are now described as having "strayed from the true path", nationalism is being replaced with religious zeal. While it's understandable that the glorious Assad regime is no longer venerated, these other innovations are bothering some.
Secularism is, essentially, being eroded. Is this the beginning of a marvellous ethical religious renaissance in Syria, or is it going to become more like Afghanistan (a utopia, according to some...)? More generally, is it possible to have a functional and positive society governed by religion?
Perhaps religion should be limited to a set of guiding principles?"
Fully agree - however, does this only apply to Syria, or is it universal ? |
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"I think that we should let Muslim and Arab people sort out Muslim and Arab issues...
Should anyone get involved where non-Arab & Muslims (e.g. Kurds, Christians, Yazidis and Druze) are being oppressed, ensl@ved and killed?
It's a difficult one. Fuck 'em all, or become a white saviour?it is difficult but we have tried it failed so walk away stop sending aid which ends up in the hands of the wrong ppl "
Agree it's difficult, if it's like Rwanda (where there is no oil funny enough) then I think it's a moral obligation upon other nations to intervene but as with anything geopolitics tends to get in the way of intervention..
As we've seen in the fuck ups of Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq it's more about the bigger players wanting to expand or to fuck up the other side by proxies.. |
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By *otMe66Man 2 days ago
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"Good old US/UK, another secular Muslim state is overthrown just like Libya or Iraq....
Now, where are those oil pipes lines again ????"
I'm confused by “secular Muslim state", are you ignoring the oppression that led to the internal Syrian uprisings and protests? Also, Libya under Gaddafi and Iraq under Hussein were secular and repressive regimes such as Syria, but other than that what is the connection?
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By *habMan 2 days ago
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"Good old US/UK, another secular Muslim state is overthrown just like Libya or Iraq....
Now, where are those oil pipes lines again ????
I'm confused by “secular Muslim state", are you ignoring the oppression that led to the internal Syrian uprisings and protests? Also, Libya under Gaddafi and Iraq under Hussein were secular and repressive regimes such as Syria, but other than that what is the connection?
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And they have been replaced with...
Civil Wars, Fundamentalists and let's not forget the place of women.
Do not forget the photo of Thatcher with her friend Pinochet and he was nice to everyone !!! |
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By *eacresteMan 2 days ago
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"Good old US/UK, another secular Muslim state is overthrown just like Libya or Iraq....
Now, where are those oil pipes lines again ????
I'm confused by “secular Muslim state", are you ignoring the oppression that led to the internal Syrian uprisings and protests? Also, Libya under Gaddafi and Iraq under Hussein were secular and repressive regimes such as Syria, but other than that what is the connection?
And they have been replaced with...
Civil Wars, Fundamentalists and let's not forget the place of women.
Do not forget the photo of Thatcher with her friend Pinochet and he was nice to everyone !!!"
But - he was one of our brutal terrorists, not one of theirs |
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"We shouldn't expect to impose our cultural beliefs on those countries and should leave them govern themselves
In the same way people who visit / want to settle here should understand they cannot expect to impose their cultural beliefs on us"
I find the idea that all cultures are morally equal quite bizarre.
These people rarely govern themselves; it's usually a handful of dictators imposing themselves onto a population, with no rights to elections or even a voice in how they are governed.
I'd say that, with certain issues, it isn't remotely subjective and that our values are often superior to theirs - for example, women's rights, gay rights, banning of FGM, rights to free expression etc. |
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"Good old US/UK, another secular Muslim state is overthrown just like Libya or Iraq....
Now, where are those oil pipes lines again ????
I'm confused by “secular Muslim state", are you ignoring the oppression that led to the internal Syrian uprisings and protests? Also, Libya under Gaddafi and Iraq under Hussein were secular and repressive regimes such as Syria, but other than that what is the connection?
And they have been replaced with...
Civil Wars, Fundamentalists and let's not forget the place of women.
Do not forget the photo of Thatcher with her friend Pinochet and he was nice to everyone !!!
But - he was one of our brutal terrorists, not one of theirs"
New profile? Mrs x |
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By *eacresteMan 2 days ago
hart village - Hartlepool |
"Good old US/UK, another secular Muslim state is overthrown just like Libya or Iraq....
Now, where are those oil pipes lines again ????
I'm confused by “secular Muslim state", are you ignoring the oppression that led to the internal Syrian uprisings and protests? Also, Libya under Gaddafi and Iraq under Hussein were secular and repressive regimes such as Syria, but other than that what is the connection?
And they have been replaced with...
Civil Wars, Fundamentalists and let's not forget the place of women.
Do not forget the photo of Thatcher with her friend Pinochet and he was nice to everyone !!!
But - he was one of our brutal terrorists, not one of theirsNew profile? Mrs x"
Why are you bullying me? |
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"Good old US/UK, another secular Muslim state is overthrown just like Libya or Iraq....
Now, where are those oil pipes lines again ????
I'm confused by “secular Muslim state", are you ignoring the oppression that led to the internal Syrian uprisings and protests? Also, Libya under Gaddafi and Iraq under Hussein were secular and repressive regimes such as Syria, but other than that what is the connection?
And they have been replaced with...
Civil Wars, Fundamentalists and let's not forget the place of women.
Do not forget the photo of Thatcher with her friend Pinochet and he was nice to everyone !!!
But - he was one of our brutal terrorists, not one of theirsNew profile? Mrs x
Why are you bullying me?"
I asked a question, that's all Mrs x |
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By *eacresteMan 1 day ago
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"The world (rightly?) celebrated the fall of the brutal and murderous Assad regime. However, as with Gaddafi, Sadam Hussein and others, perhaps the cure might be worse than the disease.
In Afghanistan a few years ago, the incoming Taliban attempted to placate the West and many Afghans by declaring that they would respect women's rights. This has now been shown up as Taqiyya (permitted lying where the end justifies the means, e.g. for achieving victory in war, or telling one's wife that her food tastes great). It appears that some of the celebrations over the "moderate" nature of the incoming Syrian leadership might have be overoptimistic.
BBC News - New Syrian government's school curriculum changes spark concern
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1ln12056ppo
In the educational curriculum, at least, women are slowly being marginalised, Jews and Christians are now described as having "strayed from the true path", nationalism is being replaced with religious zeal. While it's understandable that the glorious Assad regime is no longer venerated, these other innovations are bothering some.
Secularism is, essentially, being eroded. Is this the beginning of a marvellous ethical religious renaissance in Syria, or is it going to become more like Afghanistan (a utopia, according to some...)? More generally, is it possible to have a functional and positive society governed by religion?
Perhaps religion should be limited to a set of guiding principles?"
I think this should apply universally but political influence is always there |
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"The world (rightly?) celebrated the fall of the brutal and murderous Assad regime. However, as with Gaddafi, Sadam Hussein and others, perhaps the cure might be worse than the disease.
In Afghanistan a few years ago, the incoming Taliban attempted to placate the West and many Afghans by declaring that they would respect women's rights. This has now been shown up as Taqiyya (permitted lying where the end justifies the means, e.g. for achieving victory in war, or telling one's wife that her food tastes great). It appears that some of the celebrations over the "moderate" nature of the incoming Syrian leadership might have be overoptimistic.
BBC News - New Syrian government's school curriculum changes spark concern
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1ln12056ppo
In the educational curriculum, at least, women are slowly being marginalised, Jews and Christians are now described as having "strayed from the true path", nationalism is being replaced with religious zeal. While it's understandable that the glorious Assad regime is no longer venerated, these other innovations are bothering some.
Secularism is, essentially, being eroded. Is this the beginning of a marvellous ethical religious renaissance in Syria, or is it going to become more like Afghanistan (a utopia, according to some...)? More generally, is it possible to have a functional and positive society governed by religion?
Perhaps religion should be limited to a set of guiding principles?
I think this should apply universally but political influence is always there"
Personally I think the west should keep out of what doesn't concern them, but we have all got to keep the lights on, and pay through our utilities bills the cost for that including massive profits for all concerned. |
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"Personally I think the west should keep out of what doesn't concern them, but we have all got to keep the lights on, and pay through our utilities bills the cost for that including massive profits for all concerned."
It absolutely concerns us - when a region is destabilised it creates a refugee problem. |
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"Personally I think the west should keep out of what doesn't concern them, but we have all got to keep the lights on, and pay through our utilities bills the cost for that including massive profits for all concerned.
It absolutely concerns us - when a region is destabilised it creates a refugee problem."
Please stop talking sense, it's confusing for some on here, Mrs x |
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Syria today is like Iran after the Shah - a popular revolution hijacked by Islamists.
There may need to be another civil war if an Islamic Republic is to be avoided. Those who acquire power by force of arms are often reluctant to share. |
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"Personally I think the west should keep out of what doesn't concern them, but we have all got to keep the lights on, and pay through our utilities bills the cost for that including massive profits for all concerned.
It absolutely concerns us - when a region is destabilised it creates a refugee problem."
How big was the refugee problem from Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya before the west decided to get involved in regime change. |
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By *habMan 24 hours ago
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"We shouldn't expect to impose our cultural beliefs on those countries and should leave them govern themselves
In the same way people who visit / want to settle here should understand they cannot expect to impose their cultural beliefs on us
I find the idea that all cultures are morally equal quite bizarre.
These people rarely govern themselves; it's usually a handful of dictators imposing themselves onto a population, with no rights to elections or even a voice in how they are governed.
I'd say that, with certain issues, it isn't remotely subjective and that our values are often superior to theirs - for example, women's rights, gay rights, banning of FGM, rights to free expression etc."
As an outsider looking at the UK, I would like to ask what are your values ? Right to free expression seems to be a right for some opinions but not others especially if one is jailed for a social media post but r*pists can get suspended sentences |
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That didn't take too long, only 44 posts before you bring up your anti Israeli narrative. Even when the thread is concerned about the possible rise of Theology by those trying to rule Syria... well done, Mrs x |
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"Personally I think the west should keep out of what doesn't concern them, but we have all got to keep the lights on, and pay through our utilities bills the cost for that including massive profits for all concerned.
It absolutely concerns us - when a region is destabilised it creates a refugee problem."
I think that often the biggest destabilising influence in these situations is the interference from the west, who aren’t actually interested in the people and what happens to them, they are just interested in maintaining the access to natural resources. |
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"As an outsider looking at the UK, I would like to ask what are your values ? Right to free expression seems to be a right for some opinions but not others especially if one is jailed for a social media post but r*pists can get suspended sentences "
I'm not sure how I managed to delete my reply, but the right to free expression does not mean the right to freedom from consequence.
In cases where people are imprisoned for their social media posts, it usually isn't the opinion that's the problem, it's more likely to be the attempt to incite other people into acts of hatred, violence or other forms of harm.
The fact these cases get so much media attention could arguably prove the point - that, unlike in many countries, the government is not above criticism.
Imagine a newspaper or media outlet in (for example) China publishing anything that criticises or questions government policy? |
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By *eacresteMan 18 hours ago
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"That didn't take too long, only 44 posts before you bring up your anti Israeli narrative. Even when the thread is concerned about the possible rise of Theology by those trying to rule Syria... well done, Mrs x"
Well Syria and those governing Syrian territory is the subject here.
I would like to know if the territory now taken over by "that other country" to build settlements on could be a future flashpoint and another conflict with the new Syrian government (s) and 'that other country '
If I am allowed to suggest that
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By *eacresteMan 17 hours ago
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"Personally I think the west should keep out of what doesn't concern them, but we have all got to keep the lights on, and pay through our utilities bills the cost for that including massive profits for all concerned.
It absolutely concerns us - when a region is destabilised it creates a refugee problem.
I think that often the biggest destabilising influence in these situations is the interference from the west, who aren’t actually interested in the people and what happens to them, they are just interested in maintaining the access to natural resources. "
I'm hoping that the factions can settle any differences and yes - no western involvement |
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"Personally I think the west should keep out of what doesn't concern them, but we have all got to keep the lights on, and pay through our utilities bills the cost for that including massive profits for all concerned.
It absolutely concerns us - when a region is destabilised it creates a refugee problem.
I think that often the biggest destabilising influence in these situations is the interference from the west, who aren’t actually interested in the people and what happens to them, they are just interested in maintaining the access to natural resources.
I'm hoping that the factions can settle any differences and yes - no western involvement "
And you always basing this on what? Islamic fundamentalist is intolerant and ultimately violent. They will undoubtedly fight each other irrespective of any influence from 'outsiders', Mrs x |
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"Islamic fundamentalist is intolerant and ultimately violent. They will undoubtedly fight each other irrespective of any influence from 'outsiders', Mrs x"
The thing is, the currently dominant faction in charge of Syria has promised pluralism and at least paid lip service to an inclusive society. But the educational reforms seem to go against this. Being that Syria is a real mix of ethnicities, religions, cultures and a spectrum of religious observance spanning secularism to fundamentalism, there's hope for a great model for the rest of the Middle East. And then you have the state actors, of course. The largest and most militant being Turkey, who have a major beef against the Kurds and who have occupied five times more land than the next largest state actor, not to mention the Russian, Iranian, Israeli, US and Iraqi involvement. But it's really HTS led by Ahmed al-Sharaa who currently control the political direction. Hopefully, he will keep his (good, public) promises.
HTS:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hay'at_Tahrir_al-Sham
He declared 25 December a public holiday, which is a massive move for a(n ex-)militant jihadist. There is immense opportunity in Syria if he plays his cards right.
Egypt, meanwhile, is freaked out by the prospect of a similar strike against the secular rulers by the Muslim Brotherhood (loosely affiliated with HTS). It all has a very exciting potential, but also a scary potential. |
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"Islamic fundamentalist is intolerant and ultimately violent. They will undoubtedly fight each other irrespective of any influence from 'outsiders', Mrs x
The thing is, the currently dominant faction in charge of Syria has promised pluralism and at least paid lip service to an inclusive society. But the educational reforms seem to go against this. Being that Syria is a real mix of ethnicities, religions, cultures and a spectrum of religious observance spanning secularism to fundamentalism, there's hope for a great model for the rest of the Middle East. And then you have the state actors, of course. The largest and most militant being Turkey, who have a major beef against the Kurds and who have occupied five times more land than the next largest state actor, not to mention the Russian, Iranian, Israeli, US and Iraqi involvement. But it's really HTS led by Ahmed al-Sharaa who currently control the political direction. Hopefully, he will keep his (good, public) promises.
HTS:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hay'at_Tahrir_al-Sham
He declared 25 December a public holiday, which is a massive move for a(n ex-)militant jihadist. There is immense opportunity in Syria if he plays his cards right.
Egypt, meanwhile, is freaked out by the prospect of a similar strike against the secular rulers by the Muslim Brotherhood (loosely affiliated with HTS). It all has a very exciting potential, but also a scary potential."
I hope you are right, Mrs x |
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By *eacresteMan 15 hours ago
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"Islamic fundamentalist is intolerant and ultimately violent. They will undoubtedly fight each other irrespective of any influence from 'outsiders', Mrs x
The thing is, the currently dominant faction in charge of Syria has promised pluralism and at least paid lip service to an inclusive society. But the educational reforms seem to go against this. Being that Syria is a real mix of ethnicities, religions, cultures and a spectrum of religious observance spanning secularism to fundamentalism, there's hope for a great model for the rest of the Middle East. And then you have the state actors, of course. The largest and most militant being Turkey, who have a major beef against the Kurds and who have occupied five times more land than the next largest state actor, not to mention the Russian, Iranian, Israeli, US and Iraqi involvement. But it's really HTS led by Ahmed al-Sharaa who currently control the political direction. Hopefully, he will keep his (good, public) promises.
HTS:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hay'at_Tahrir_al-Sham
He declared 25 December a public holiday, which is a massive move for a(n ex-)militant jihadist. There is immense opportunity in Syria if he plays his cards right.
Egypt, meanwhile, is freaked out by the prospect of a similar strike against the secular rulers by the Muslim Brotherhood (loosely affiliated with HTS). It all has a very exciting potential, but also a scary potential.I hope you are right, Mrs x"
Are you going to l thank me for nudging you in the right direction ? |
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By *eacresteMan 15 hours ago
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"Islamic fundamentalist is intolerant and ultimately violent. They will undoubtedly fight each other irrespective of any influence from 'outsiders', Mrs x
The thing is, the currently dominant faction in charge of Syria has promised pluralism and at least paid lip service to an inclusive society. But the educational reforms seem to go against this. Being that Syria is a real mix of ethnicities, religions, cultures and a spectrum of religious observance spanning secularism to fundamentalism, there's hope for a great model for the rest of the Middle East. And then you have the state actors, of course. The largest and most militant being Turkey, who have a major beef against the Kurds and who have occupied five times more land than the next largest state actor, not to mention the Russian, Iranian, Israeli, US and Iraqi involvement. But it's really HTS led by Ahmed al-Sharaa who currently control the political direction. Hopefully, he will keep his (good, public) promises.
HTS:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hay'at_Tahrir_al-Sham
He declared 25 December a public holiday, which is a massive move for a(n ex-)militant jihadist. There is immense opportunity in Syria if he plays his cards right.
Egypt, meanwhile, is freaked out by the prospect of a similar strike against the secular rulers by the Muslim Brotherhood (loosely affiliated with HTS). It all has a very exciting potential, but also a scary potential."
The only friction reported so far is the Christmas tree incident, and a separate cases of other ethnic minorities leaving their homes.
Fingers x'd it gets resolved but looking good on the whole so far (touch wood) |
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"Islamic fundamentalist is intolerant and ultimately violent. They will undoubtedly fight each other irrespective of any influence from 'outsiders', Mrs x
The thing is, the currently dominant faction in charge of Syria has promised pluralism and at least paid lip service to an inclusive society. But the educational reforms seem to go against this. Being that Syria is a real mix of ethnicities, religions, cultures and a spectrum of religious observance spanning secularism to fundamentalism, there's hope for a great model for the rest of the Middle East. And then you have the state actors, of course. The largest and most militant being Turkey, who have a major beef against the Kurds and who have occupied five times more land than the next largest state actor, not to mention the Russian, Iranian, Israeli, US and Iraqi involvement. But it's really HTS led by Ahmed al-Sharaa who currently control the political direction. Hopefully, he will keep his (good, public) promises.
HTS:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hay'at_Tahrir_al-Sham
He declared 25 December a public holiday, which is a massive move for a(n ex-)militant jihadist. There is immense opportunity in Syria if he plays his cards right.
Egypt, meanwhile, is freaked out by the prospect of a similar strike against the secular rulers by the Muslim Brotherhood (loosely affiliated with HTS). It all has a very exciting potential, but also a scary potential.I hope you are right, Mrs x
Are you going to l thank me for nudging you in the right direction ?"
What direction? Mrs x |
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The only friction reported so far is the Christmas tree incident, and a separate cases of other ethnic minorities leaving their homes.
Fingers x'd it gets resolved but looking good on the whole so far (touch wood)"
There is much more friction than a burning tree:
There are hundreds of Kurds being killed.
The Alawites are being hunted down, lynched, tortured and killed. (Mostly reprisal/revenge killings) - the videos are chilling.
Druze are incredibly scared.
There was shooting and vandalism at a Greek Orthodox church. The Xmas tree incident was just the most high-profile of many issues that the Syrian Christians have been having over the past month or so.
This is the tip of the iceberg...
None of this is surprising, there has just been a major revolution and regime change. The government is saying all the right things and, hopefully, this will stop. The question is: is the stated pluralism real, and will it last? |
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By *eacresteMan 3 hours ago
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The only friction reported so far is the Christmas tree incident, and a separate cases of other ethnic minorities leaving their homes.
Fingers x'd it gets resolved but looking good on the whole so far (touch wood)
There is much more friction than a burning tree:
There are hundreds of Kurds being killed.
The Alawites are being hunted down, lynched, tortured and killed. (Mostly reprisal/revenge killings) - the videos are chilling.
Druze are incredibly scared.
There was shooting and vandalism at a Greek Orthodox church. The Xmas tree incident was just the most high-profile of many issues that the Syrian Christians have been having over the past month or so.
This is the tip of the iceberg...
None of this is surprising, there has just been a major revolution and regime change. The government is saying all the right things and, hopefully, this will stop. The question is: is the stated pluralism real, and will it last?"
That's terrible news.
I believe your right about the parallels with the Taliban |
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"Personally I think the west should keep out of what doesn't concern them, but we have all got to keep the lights on, and pay through our utilities bills the cost for that including massive profits for all concerned.
It absolutely concerns us - when a region is destabilised it creates a refugee problem."
Yes you are correct, maybe that is the reason so many countries announced a review of their immigration policy concerning Syrians a little after the revolution. |
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