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As any sane person knows, porridge is one of the healthiest and most affordable breakfast meals.
However Sir Kier has labelled it as 'junk food' and banned adverts for porridge pre watershed, presumably to prevent impressionable youngsters from becoming hooked for life on oats and milk.
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"I don't know the full details of this ban, but there's a huge difference between basic porridge made with hot water, and ready-brek or flavoured porridge laden with sugar and prepared with milk. "
Indeed there is a huge difference as you quite rightly point out.
Unfortunately, the less scientific (or those with an axe to grind and looking for conflict) will sensationalise for political capital.
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I'm currently reading a book about how sugar was given free reign to embed itself so deeply in the Western Diet, and now The West are reaping the whirlwind of that decision (which was made by politicians, not nutritionists).
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Thankfully there are well-educated and scientific minds out there with proven research, and policy is starting to filter through on the perils of the deadly white stuff. I expect this is one of them and about time too.
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"I don't know the full details of this ban, but there's a huge difference between basic porridge made with hot water, and ready-brek or flavoured porridge laden with sugar and prepared with milk. "
The news reported it to be an advertising ban on junk food. Some of these products seem to be under that banner.
The products are not banned from sale
The UK has a problem with obesity characterised by the cake and biscuit isles in supermarkets being larger than the fruit and veg isles
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I suppose haggis will be next, although I haven't seen many ads for it. It'll probably get banned too anyway.
Banning ads will probably boost sales now as the government are so unpopular.
Porridge could be to breakfasts what the Sex Pistols were to rock music.
Punk Porridge  |
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Seriously, this is a conundrum for politicians of any party. If they act in the best interests of public health on things like smoking, sugar, preservatives etc, the media goes into a frenzy of 'nanny state' hyperbole. But then we are left with blighted lives and a massive NHS bill. I travel a lot internationally through work, and the physical condition of UK citizens doesn't compare well to other countries. |
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Starmer thinks banning junk food ads before 9pm will solve the obesity of the nation! He really is very thick.
Most kids don’t watch tv these days and you cannot ban junk food advertising on social media/internet, which is where most kids spend their viewing time!
Also, it is mostly the crap that their parents give them, which causes obesity so how will this help?
They would be better off banning deliveroo/just eat business to be honest! If you are that lazy that you cannot even be bothered to drive yourself to a Greggs for your steak bake and pizza slice, then you don’t deserve to have one!
Starmer is the gift that keeps on giving to the other political parties. He really is utterly useless. |
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"Seriously, this is a conundrum for politicians of any party. If they act in the best interests of public health on things like smoking, sugar, preservatives etc, the media goes into a frenzy of 'nanny state' hyperbole. But then we are left with blighted lives and a massive NHS bill. I travel a lot internationally through work, and the physical condition of UK citizens doesn't compare well to other countries."
This is true sadly. |
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"I suppose haggis will be next, although I haven't seen many ads for it. It'll probably get banned too anyway.
Banning ads will probably boost sales now as the government are so unpopular.
Porridge could be to breakfasts what the Sex Pistols were to rock music.
Punk Porridge "
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"As any sane person knows, porridge is one of the healthiest and most affordable breakfast meals.
However Sir Kier has labelled it as 'junk food' and banned adverts for porridge pre watershed, presumably to prevent impressionable youngsters from becoming hooked for life on oats and milk.
Jonathan Swift or George Orwell would be hard pressed to satirise this Government ! "
Phew!!!!
For a minute I thought I'd never see Fletch and Godber again.
Maybe the could get Mr Mackay to police it.
Knowing this government we'd probably end up with Mr Barrowclough or "genial" Harry Grout.
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"As any sane person knows, porridge is one of the healthiest and most affordable breakfast meals.
However Sir Kier has labelled it as 'junk food' and banned adverts for porridge pre watershed, presumably to prevent impressionable youngsters from becoming hooked for life on oats and milk.
Jonathan Swift or George Orwell would be hard pressed to satirise this Government !
Phew!!!!
For a minute I thought I'd never see Fletch and Godber again.
Maybe the could get Mr Mackay to police it.
Knowing this government we'd probably end up with Mr Barrowclough or "genial" Harry Grout.
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Just as long as it’s not ‘Luke Warm’. |
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"As any sane person knows, porridge is one of the healthiest and most affordable breakfast meals.
However Sir Kier has labelled it as 'junk food' and banned adverts for porridge pre watershed, presumably to prevent impressionable youngsters from becoming hooked for life on oats and milk.
Jonathan Swift or George Orwell would be hard pressed to satirise this Government !
Phew!!!!
For a minute I thought I'd never see Fletch and Godber again.
Maybe the could get Mr Mackay to police it.
Knowing this government we'd probably end up with Mr Barrowclough or "genial" Harry Grout.
Just as long as it’s not ‘Luke Warm’. "
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Skint households and 3 million foodbank meals annually
Leading supermarkets and food chains target poor areas (guardian today) , their shelves stocked with cheap unhealthy food
“ Fast food chains accused of ‘flooding’ areas near UK schools with unhealthy options
Health secretary accuses fast food outlets such as KFC, Domino’s and Subway of ‘cruelly targeting kids’ near schools”
Third of children overweight, 37% of adults overweight and 26% obese.
Supermarkets full of unhealthy food - why not ban the supply of this instead of the advertising.
Rivers full of piss and shit too. |
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I do get that this ban supposedly applies to sugary porridge dishes but all the headlines will be about 'porridge is a junk food'. So the positive message is lost and becomes an object of ridicule, which sums up this hapless Govt. |
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"I do get that this ban supposedly applies to sugary porridge dishes but all the headlines will be about 'porridge is a junk food'. So the positive message is lost and becomes an object of ridicule, which sums up this hapless Govt."
So it’s the government’s fault that these headlines are false. |
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"I do get that this ban supposedly applies to sugary porridge dishes but all the headlines will be about 'porridge is a junk food'. So the positive message is lost and becomes an object of ridicule, which sums up this hapless Govt.
So it’s the government’s fault that these headlines are false."
Don't you think one of the many highly paid Civil Servant and Spads who work on a policy like this might have thought the word 'porridge' would look out of place on a list of banned food adverts and left it out ? Headlines are rarely about the details. |
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Don't you think one of the many highly paid Civil Servant and Spads who work on a policy like this might have thought the word 'porridge' would look out of place on a list of banned food adverts and left it out ? Headlines are rarely about the details."
I mean we *could* blame everyone and anyone who is trying to do some good in the world OR we could blame the kind of idiot that doesn't look past the first word they read, has a public rant about it, makes themselves look like a fool, misleads a big chunk of people who are also so stupid they won't bother checking anything they're told and especially not something that fits neatly with their existing biases and then hasn't got the balls to admit they were wrong. Instead these people double down and try to twist everything so the discussion, when viewed from a distance, through one eye and a wavy piece of glass, at least superficially resembles a reasonable point.
It's curious that the same people who are incensed at the cost of illegal immigration and take up a position where people drowning in the sea is preferable to the cost of helping them get equally incensed by a government trying to take steps to tackle obesity which (depending on whose figures you use) costs the UK anywhere from 10 to 20 times more and can be solved without anyone dying.
People really are strange. |
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Don't you think one of the many highly paid Civil Servant and Spads who work on a policy like this might have thought the word 'porridge' would look out of place on a list of banned food adverts and left it out ? Headlines are rarely about the details.
I mean we *could* blame everyone and anyone who is trying to do some good in the world OR we could blame the kind of idiot that doesn't look past the first word they read, has a public rant about it, makes themselves look like a fool, misleads a big chunk of people who are also so stupid they won't bother checking anything they're told and especially not something that fits neatly with their existing biases and then hasn't got the balls to admit they were wrong. Instead these people double down and try to twist everything so the discussion, when viewed from a distance, through one eye and a wavy piece of glass, at least superficially resembles a reasonable point.
It's curious that the same people who are incensed at the cost of illegal immigration and take up a position where people drowning in the sea is preferable to the cost of helping them get equally incensed by a government trying to take steps to tackle obesity which (depending on whose figures you use) costs the UK anywhere from 10 to 20 times more and can be solved without anyone dying.
People really are strange."
People are free to kill themselves and even to get doctors to assist in their deaths (shortly).
I think they should be free to eat porridge, even if it does them harm. |
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Don't you think one of the many highly paid Civil Servant and Spads who work on a policy like this might have thought the word 'porridge' would look out of place on a list of banned food adverts and left it out ? Headlines are rarely about the details.
I mean we *could* blame everyone and anyone who is trying to do some good in the world OR we could blame the kind of idiot that doesn't look past the first word they read, has a public rant about it, makes themselves look like a fool, misleads a big chunk of people who are also so stupid they won't bother checking anything they're told and especially not something that fits neatly with their existing biases and then hasn't got the balls to admit they were wrong. Instead these people double down and try to twist everything so the discussion, when viewed from a distance, through one eye and a wavy piece of glass, at least superficially resembles a reasonable point.
It's curious that the same people who are incensed at the cost of illegal immigration and take up a position where people drowning in the sea is preferable to the cost of helping them get equally incensed by a government trying to take steps to tackle obesity which (depending on whose figures you use) costs the UK anywhere from 10 to 20 times more and can be solved without anyone dying.
People really are strange."
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The irony of this thread is (as so often) outstanding. Only the kind of person who has been fooled into not noticing that what is marketed at porridge is in fact a sugar laden, diabetes inducing addictive copy of the original would be upset by it's inclusion in this proposal. This alone proves the necessity of doing just that. The companies marketing it are very well aware of its "healthy" connotations and have coupled this with a tonne of sugar to make money out of naivity - and now have the support of the very people they are fooling. If it wasn't so depressing it would be funny.
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"The irony of this thread is (as so often) outstanding. Only the kind of person who has been fooled into not noticing that what is marketed at porridge is in fact a sugar laden, diabetes inducing addictive copy of the original would be upset by it's inclusion in this proposal. This alone proves the necessity of doing just that. The companies marketing it are very well aware of its "healthy" connotations and have coupled this with a tonne of sugar to make money out of naivity - and now have the support of the very people they are fooling. If it wasn't so depressing it would be funny.
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It’s too late now.
Busy working people aren’t going to spend half an hour working out which porridge is healthy and which porridge isn’t healthy on a quick run around Asda with the kids.
Easier just not to bother with porridge at all and stick to the Coco Pops. |
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By *ouple49Couple 1 week ago
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"Starmer thinks banning junk food ads before 9pm will solve the obesity of the nation! He really is very thick.
Most kids don’t watch tv these days and you cannot ban junk food advertising on social media/internet, which is where most kids spend their viewing time!
Also, it is mostly the crap that their parents give them, which causes obesity so how will this help?
They would be better off banning deliveroo/just eat business to be honest! If you are that lazy that you cannot even be bothered to drive yourself to a Greggs for your steak bake and pizza slice, then you don’t deserve to have one!
Starmer is the gift that keeps on giving to the other political parties. He really is utterly useless."
Spot on. For an educated man he’s got no common sense. Ideal politician. |
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 1 week ago
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"The irony of this thread is (as so often) outstanding. Only the kind of person who has been fooled into not noticing that what is marketed at porridge is in fact a sugar laden, diabetes inducing addictive copy of the original would be upset by it's inclusion in this proposal. This alone proves the necessity of doing just that. The companies marketing it are very well aware of its "healthy" connotations and have coupled this with a tonne of sugar to make money out of naivity - and now have the support of the very people they are fooling. If it wasn't so depressing it would be funny.
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Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown, but there are several factors that can contribute to it, including: Genetics, obesity (mostly from fatty foods), and insufficient physical activity. |
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By *andu66Couple 1 week ago
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"As any sane person knows, porridge is one of the healthiest and most affordable breakfast meals.
However Sir Kier has labelled it as 'junk food' and banned adverts for porridge pre watershed, presumably to prevent impressionable youngsters from becoming hooked for life on oats and milk.
Jonathan Swift or George Orwell would be hard pressed to satirise this Government ! "
What you say is not quite right is it, but you know that. All this stress must be tiring for you. |
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"The irony of this thread is (as so often) outstanding. Only the kind of person who has been fooled into not noticing that what is marketed at porridge is in fact a sugar laden, diabetes inducing addictive copy of the original would be upset by it's inclusion in this proposal. This alone proves the necessity of doing just that. The companies marketing it are very well aware of its "healthy" connotations and have coupled this with a tonne of sugar to make money out of naivity - and now have the support of the very people they are fooling. If it wasn't so depressing it would be funny.
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Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown, but there are several factors that can contribute to it, including: Genetics, obesity (mostly from fatty foods), and insufficient physical activity. "
Please don't bother the poster with science or facts. |
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"Skint households and 3 million foodbank meals annually
Leading supermarkets and food chains target poor areas (guardian today) , their shelves stocked with cheap unhealthy food
“ Fast food chains accused of ‘flooding’ areas near UK schools with unhealthy options
Health secretary accuses fast food outlets such as KFC, Domino’s and Subway of ‘cruelly targeting kids’ near schools”
Third of children overweight, 37% of adults overweight and 26% obese.
Supermarkets full of unhealthy food - why not ban the supply of this instead of the advertising.
Rivers full of piss and shit too. "
And all this happened in the last six months ? I can see why people are upset with the current government and not the previous one that were in power for 14 years. |
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"As any sane person knows, porridge is one of the healthiest and most affordable breakfast meals.
However Sir Kier has labelled it as 'junk food' and banned adverts for porridge pre watershed, presumably to prevent impressionable youngsters from becoming hooked for life on oats and milk.
Jonathan Swift or George Orwell would be hard pressed to satirise this Government !
What you say is not quite right is it, but you know that. All this stress must be tiring for you."
Quite the opposite ! Sugary porridge gives me plenty of energy all day long.  |
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By *andu66Couple 1 week ago
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"As any sane person knows, porridge is one of the healthiest and most affordable breakfast meals.
However Sir Kier has labelled it as 'junk food' and banned adverts for porridge pre watershed, presumably to prevent impressionable youngsters from becoming hooked for life on oats and milk.
Jonathan Swift or George Orwell would be hard pressed to satirise this Government !
What you say is not quite right is it, but you know that. All this stress must be tiring for you.
Quite the opposite ! Sugary porridge gives me plenty of energy all day long. "
Unfortunately that's wrong as well, porridge is not sugary plus energy from sugar is over very quickly. But sugar does cause stress |
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"The irony of this thread is (as so often) outstanding. Only the kind of person who has been fooled into not noticing that what is marketed at porridge is in fact a sugar laden, diabetes inducing addictive copy of the original would be upset by it's inclusion in this proposal. This alone proves the necessity of doing just that. The companies marketing it are very well aware of its "healthy" connotations and have coupled this with a tonne of sugar to make money out of naivity - and now have the support of the very people they are fooling. If it wasn't so depressing it would be funny.
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Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown, but there are several factors that can contribute to it, including: Genetics, obesity (mostly from fatty foods), and insufficient physical activity.
Please don't bother the poster with science or facts."
And please neither of you bother to read what I actually said.
I accused certain foods of being "sugar laden (and) diabetes inducing". As was noted, obesity is a significant factor in developing type 2 diabetes. I'm not sure where the idea that obesity is mostly caused by fatty foods comes from. Obesity (as per the NHS website) comes from eating foods that contain more energy than you use. High energy foods are commonly those that have lots of fat and/or sugar. Actual quote below
Obesity is a complex issue with many causes. It's caused when extra calories are stored in the body as fat.
"If you consume high amounts of energy, particularly found in high fat and high sugar foods, and do not use all of the energy through physical activity, much of the extra energy will be stored in the body as fat."
All of which is somewhat off topic - unless the new claim is that Starma is wrong to accuse high sugar foods of being *a* casual factor in the nationwide obesity epedemic?
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By *andu66Couple 1 week ago
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"On the sugar content, just taken three packets out of the cupboard
Quaker rolled oats box says 16% sugar
Aldi cheap brand less than 1% sugar
Ready brek. 7.5g/30g served = 25% sneaky labelling "
Yep ready brek is not porridge but full of sugar aimed to get kids hooked and Quaker is like saying Cadbury is chocolate, plan old simple oats  |
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By *andu66Couple 1 week ago
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"The irony of this thread is (as so often) outstanding. Only the kind of person who has been fooled into not noticing that what is marketed at porridge is in fact a sugar laden, diabetes inducing addictive copy of the original would be upset by it's inclusion in this proposal. This alone proves the necessity of doing just that. The companies marketing it are very well aware of its "healthy" connotations and have coupled this with a tonne of sugar to make money out of naivity - and now have the support of the very people they are fooling. If it wasn't so depressing it would be funny.
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Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown, but there are several factors that can contribute to it, including: Genetics, obesity (mostly from fatty foods), and insufficient physical activity.
Please don't bother the poster with science or facts.
And please neither of you bother to read what I actually said.
I accused certain foods of being "sugar laden (and) diabetes inducing". As was noted, obesity is a significant factor in developing type 2 diabetes. I'm not sure where the idea that obesity is mostly caused by fatty foods comes from. Obesity (as per the NHS website) comes from eating foods that contain more energy than you use. High energy foods are commonly those that have lots of fat and/or sugar. Actual quote below
Obesity is a complex issue with many causes. It's caused when extra calories are stored in the body as fat.
"If you consume high amounts of energy, particularly found in high fat and high sugar foods, and do not use all of the energy through physical activity, much of the extra energy will be stored in the body as fat."
All of which is somewhat off topic - unless the new claim is that Starma is wrong to accuse high sugar foods of being *a* casual factor in the nationwide obesity epedemic?
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Read what you said, now that's asking a lot of some people, they would have to reason then 😂😂 |
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By *andu66Couple 1 week ago
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"The good news is that the Tories didn't get the blame this time for making porridge unhealthy!"
Of course they get the blame that is capitalism, it doesn't give 2 monkeys about people and what happens to them |
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"On the sugar content, just taken three packets out of the cupboard
Quaker rolled oats box says 16% sugar
Aldi cheap brand less than 1% sugar
Ready brek. 7.5g/30g served = 25% sneaky labelling "
My son loved Ready Brek, he's now 6ft 1 and built like a middle weight boxer. Glad I didn't listen to people who think sugar causes diabetes or chubbies like Kier Starmer and Lammy ! |
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"The good news is that the Tories didn't get the blame this time for making porridge unhealthy!
Of course they get the blame that is capitalism, it doesn't give 2 monkeys about people and what happens to them "
To be fair socialism has a great record of making people lose weight by starvation. |
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By *andu66Couple 1 week ago
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"The good news is that the Tories didn't get the blame this time for making porridge unhealthy!
Of course they get the blame that is capitalism, it doesn't give 2 monkeys about people and what happens to them
To be fair socialism has a great record of making people lose weight by starvation. "
I think that was dictatorship, left or right it's the same thing |
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"The good news is that the Tories didn't get the blame this time for making porridge unhealthy!
Of course they get the blame that is capitalism, it doesn't give 2 monkeys about people and what happens to them
To be fair socialism has a great record of making people lose weight by starvation "
I don't agree with communism both because it will simply never work as well as disagreeing with it in principle. Without wishing to get into a debate about the differences between socialism and communism (a debate I'm completely unqualified to express an opinion in). However I'm guessing you're referring to the horrendous famine under various 20th century communist regimes.
The bit about it never working is my issue with this, only an idiot would claim the countries where these famines happened were actually adhering to true communist or socialist principles, Stalin and Mao never went hungry. I'd argue that these famines were caused by people who called themselves Socialists or Communists but who behaved completely differently.
At the other end of the political spectrum the story is very different. Unrestrained capitalism has been directly and unarguably responsible for millions of deaths. The Bengal Famine is perhaps one of the most obvious examples.
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"Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown ..."
If the causes of diabetes are unknown, how can you be so sure that the idea it's caused by sugar is a myth? |
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BBC headline: Porridge and Crumpets included in junk food ban.
So two very healthy, popular and affordable foods get trashed while kids continue to stuff themselves with Maccie Ds and foul fried chicken.
Great work ! 🤦♂️ |
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 1 week ago
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"Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown ...
If the causes of diabetes are unknown, how can you be so sure that the idea it's caused by sugar is a myth?"
The answer to this is too long and involved for me to be arsed explaining. If you're interested, type "common myths about diabetes" into google.
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"Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown ..."
"If the causes of diabetes are unknown, how can you be so sure that the idea it's caused by sugar is a myth?"
"The answer to this is too long and involved for me to be arsed explaining. If you're interested, type "common myths about diabetes" into google."
So you're happy to quote a bit of information you got off the internet as a fact, but you can't be bothered to back it up when challenged.
Got it. |
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By *andu66Couple 7 days ago
South Devon |
"BBC headline: Porridge and Crumpets included in junk food ban.
So two very healthy, popular and affordable foods get trashed while kids continue to stuff themselves with Maccie Ds and foul fried chicken.
Great work ! 🤦♂️"
And wrong again one crumpet is your daily intake of salt, shop bought are very bad for you. I see just as many adults at m/d and KFC especially with their kids. As for porridge we have been through that one but of course you still like to spew misinformation |
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By *andu66Couple 7 days ago
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"Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown ...
If the causes of diabetes are unknown, how can you be so sure that the idea it's caused by sugar is a myth?
The answer to this is too long and involved for me to be arsed explaining. If you're interested, type "common myths about diabetes" into google.
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Be arsed
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/ |
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Fricking hell someone has made me eat porridge for breakfast for years because it is healthy, 6 desert spoons of oats and a mug of water topped with fresh fruit to make it edible, now you have made me get the bag out and examine it, Lidl brand it says; simply porridge oats with a list of nutritional information, fook only knows what that means, I always thought it was oats rolled and packaged with nothing added but have they mixed a lot of shite in with it and is the statement [simply porridge oats] delierately misleading. |
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 7 days ago
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"Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown ...
If the causes of diabetes are unknown, how can you be so sure that the idea it's caused by sugar is a myth?
The answer to this is too long and involved for me to be arsed explaining. If you're interested, type "common myths about diabetes" into google.
So you're happy to quote a bit of information you got off the internet as a fact, but you can't be bothered to back it up when challenged.
Got it."
I, and millions of others around the world, have suffered from this debilitating condition since childhood, and you - some rando thumb on the internet, expect me to spend time typing a lot of info on this condition because you're too lazy to look?
Got it. |
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 7 days ago
Burley |
"Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown ...
If the causes of diabetes are unknown, how can you be so sure that the idea it's caused by sugar is a myth?
The answer to this is too long and involved for me to be arsed explaining. If you're interested, type "common myths about diabetes" into google.
Be arsed
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/"
I could have been arsed to just post a link, but, unlike some on the internet, I actually look at, and digest, information I find.
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By *andu66Couple 7 days ago
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"Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown ...
If the causes of diabetes are unknown, how can you be so sure that the idea it's caused by sugar is a myth?
The answer to this is too long and involved for me to be arsed explaining. If you're interested, type "common myths about diabetes" into google.
Be arsed
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/
I could have been arsed to just post a link, but, unlike some on the internet, I actually look at, and digest, information I find.
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That is great, people can digest the info from diabetes UK the leading organisation on the issue that health professionals use as well, it means people receive true info on the subject that can support them... just like cancer research, stroke association, British heart Foundation etc etc they provide info and support to people whilst leading in the field of their expertise. |
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By *AJMLKTV/TS 7 days ago
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"Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown ...
If the causes of diabetes are unknown, how can you be so sure that the idea it's caused by sugar is a myth?
The answer to this is too long and involved for me to be arsed explaining. If you're interested, type "common myths about diabetes" into google.
Be arsed
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/
I could have been arsed to just post a link, but, unlike some on the internet, I actually look at, and digest, information I find.
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"We have restrictions on where you can link to because otherwise people end up posting spam or links to places that host malware/spyware and it's bad for our users.
You can link to:
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Youtube
Lovehoney
Wikipedia"
That is great, people can digest the info from diabetes UK the leading organisation on the issue that health professionals use as well, it means people receive true info on the subject that can support them... just like cancer research, stroke association, British heart Foundation etc etc they provide info and support to people whilst leading in the field of their expertise."
Sadly, some people are incapable of even following a link and digesting the information. If you type "does sugar cause diabetes" into the site you mention's search, the very first line of the very first articles says "We know that sugar does not cause type 1 diabetes, nor is it caused by anything else in your lifestyle." Explaining the harsh realities of my condition to those who shun education can be exhausting. Thanks for posting the link, I do hope you don't get a forum timeout for doing so. |
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By *andu66Couple 7 days ago
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"Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown ...
If the causes of diabetes are unknown, how can you be so sure that the idea it's caused by sugar is a myth?
The answer to this is too long and involved for me to be arsed explaining. If you're interested, type "common myths about diabetes" into google.
Be arsed
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/
I could have been arsed to just post a link, but, unlike some on the internet, I actually look at, and digest, information I find.
Forum rules:-
"We have restrictions on where you can link to because otherwise people end up posting spam or links to places that host malware/spyware and it's bad for our users.
You can link to:
Any well recognised news site (bbc, times, telegraph, sun, notw, cnn and all the rest)
Youtube
Lovehoney
Wikipedia"
That is great, people can digest the info from diabetes UK the leading organisation on the issue that health professionals use as well, it means people receive true info on the subject that can support them... just like cancer research, stroke association, British heart Foundation etc etc they provide info and support to people whilst leading in the field of their expertise.
Sadly, some people are incapable of even following a link and digesting the information. If you type "does sugar cause diabetes" into the site you mention's search, the very first line of the very first articles says "We know that sugar does not cause type 1 diabetes, nor is it caused by anything else in your lifestyle." Explaining the harsh realities of my condition to those who shun education can be exhausting. Thanks for posting the link, I do hope you don't get a forum timeout for doing so. "
Thank you, hopefully I will not get a time out for linking to a leading health organisation....I sincerely hope things get better with your condition xxx |
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By *otMe66Man 7 days ago
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"Lovely buttery croissant for breakfast this morning with extra jam. 🥐
I find croissants too flakey.
Exactly how I find labours policies
Boom boom
O dear!"
Oh come on even Starmer agrees he has done a reboot today, labour policies V2, the less flakey version, or are they...... |
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"Lovely buttery croissant for breakfast this morning with extra jam. 🥐
I find croissants too flakey.
Exactly how I find labours policies
Boom boom
O dear!
Oh come on even Starmer agrees he has done a reboot today, labour policies V2, the less flakey version, or are they...... "
Starmer is toast ! |
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"Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown ...
If the causes of diabetes are unknown, how can you be so sure that the idea it's caused by sugar is a myth?
The answer to this is too long and involved for me to be arsed explaining. If you're interested, type "common myths about diabetes" into google.
Be arsed
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/"
Thank you
Interesting reading below is a copy and paste, note the "sugary breakfast cereals"
Is type 2 diabetes caused by diet?
We know there is a link between having certain foods and drinks, and an increased risk of type 2 diabetes. These include full sugar fizzy and energy drinks, refined carbs such as white bread, white rice and sugary breakfast cereals and red and processed meats like bacon, ham, sausages, pork, beef and lamb are linked with an increased risk of type 2 diabetes. |
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"Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown ...
If the causes of diabetes are unknown, how can you be so sure that the idea it's caused by sugar is a myth?
The answer to this is too long and involved for me to be arsed explaining. If you're interested, type "common myths about diabetes" into google.
Be arsed
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/
I could have been arsed to just post a link, but, unlike some on the internet, I actually look at, and digest, information I find.
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"We have restrictions on where you can link to because otherwise people end up posting spam or links to places that host malware/spyware and it's bad for our users.
You can link to:
Any well recognised news site (bbc, times, telegraph, sun, notw, cnn and all the rest)
Youtube
Lovehoney
Wikipedia"
That is great, people can digest the info from diabetes UK the leading organisation on the issue that health professionals use as well, it means people receive true info on the subject that can support them... just like cancer research, stroke association, British heart Foundation etc etc they provide info and support to people whilst leading in the field of their expertise.
Sadly, some people are incapable of even following a link and digesting the information. If you type "does sugar cause diabetes" into the site you mention's search, the very first line of the very first articles says "We know that sugar does not cause type 1 diabetes, nor is it caused by anything else in your lifestyle." Explaining the harsh realities of my condition to those who shun education can be exhausting. Thanks for posting the link, I do hope you don't get a forum timeout for doing so. "
Type 1 diabetes. I don't think anyone has said type 1 is caused by sugar. Type 2 is entirely different. |
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"Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown ...
If the causes of diabetes are unknown, how can you be so sure that the idea it's caused by sugar is a myth?
The answer to this is too long and involved for me to be arsed explaining. If you're interested, type "common myths about diabetes" into google.
Be arsed
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/
Thank you
Interesting reading below is a copy and paste, note the "sugary breakfast cereals"
Is type 2 diabetes caused by diet?
We know there is a link between having certain foods and drinks, and an increased risk of type 2 diabetes. These include full sugar fizzy and energy drinks, refined carbs such as white bread, white rice and sugary breakfast cereals and red and processed meats like bacon, ham, sausages, pork, beef and lamb are linked with an increased risk of type 2 diabetes."
I'm no expert but why did you omit the bit before that? |
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"I think we can all agree that porridge does not cause diabetes so please Sir Kier, leave our oats out of it !"
organic oats not sprayed with chems yes
Plain oats little bit of fruit or honey yes but not laden with syrup sugar and nutella |
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"I think we can all agree that porridge does not cause diabetes so please Sir Kier, leave our oats out of it !organic oats not sprayed with chems yes
Plain oats little bit of fruit or honey yes but not laden with syrup sugar and nutella "
Who the fuck puts Nutella in porridge?
Plain oats with a pinch of salt and dash of milk is all you need. |
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"I think we can all agree that porridge does not cause diabetes so please Sir Kier, leave our oats out of it !organic oats not sprayed with chems yes
Plain oats little bit of fruit or honey yes but not laden with syrup sugar and nutella "
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"I think we can all agree that porridge does not cause diabetes so please Sir Kier, leave our oats out of it !organic oats not sprayed with chems yes
Plain oats little bit of fruit or honey yes but not laden with syrup sugar and nutella
Who the fuck puts Nutella in porridge?
Plain oats with a pinch of salt and dash of milk is all you need. "
if left to there own devices the kids would |
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"Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown ...
If the causes of diabetes are unknown, how can you be so sure that the idea it's caused by sugar is a myth?
The answer to this is too long and involved for me to be arsed explaining. If you're interested, type "common myths about diabetes" into google.
Be arsed
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/
Thank you
Interesting reading below is a copy and paste, note the "sugary breakfast cereals"
Is type 2 diabetes caused by diet?
We know there is a link between having certain foods and drinks, and an increased risk of type 2 diabetes. These include full sugar fizzy and energy drinks, refined carbs such as white bread, white rice and sugary breakfast cereals and red and processed meats like bacon, ham, sausages, pork, beef and lamb are linked with an increased risk of type 2 diabetes.
I'm no expert but why did you omit the bit before that?"
The bit about foods causing Type 2? Basically says the same thing, a heading "can food cause type 2 diabetes" followed by one saying "is type 2 diabetes caused by diet?" Are basically the same thing to my mind, and they list the same food types. I take your point though, it was a direct quote that sugary foods can in fact cause type 2.
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"Sugar doesn't "induce" diabetes - that's a common myth. The exact cause of most types of diabetes is unknown ...
If the causes of diabetes are unknown, how can you be so sure that the idea it's caused by sugar is a myth?
The answer to this is too long and involved for me to be arsed explaining. If you're interested, type "common myths about diabetes" into google.
Be arsed
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/
Thank you
Interesting reading below is a copy and paste, note the "sugary breakfast cereals"
Is type 2 diabetes caused by diet?
We know there is a link between having certain foods and drinks, and an increased risk of type 2 diabetes. These include full sugar fizzy and energy drinks, refined carbs such as white bread, white rice and sugary breakfast cereals and red and processed meats like bacon, ham, sausages, pork, beef and lamb are linked with an increased risk of type 2 diabetes.
I'm no expert but why did you omit the bit before that?
The bit about foods causing Type 2? Basically says the same thing, a heading "can food cause type 2 diabetes" followed by one saying "is type 2 diabetes caused by diet?" Are basically the same thing to my mind, and they list the same food types. I take your point though, it was a direct quote that sugary foods can in fact cause type 2.
P"
This bit, right before the bit you quoted:
"Can food causes type 2 diabetes?
Eating certain food can’t cause type 2 diabetes. But there are some foods that increase your risk of developing type 2 diabetes including:"
It goes on to list the foods you've listed.
As you can see, it clearly certain foods CAN'T CAUSE type 2 diabetes.
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By *andu66Couple 6 days ago
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"I think we can all agree that porridge does not cause diabetes so please Sir Kier, leave our oats out of it !organic oats not sprayed with chems yes
Plain oats little bit of fruit or honey yes but not laden with syrup sugar and nutella
Who the fuck puts Nutella in porridge?
Plain oats with a pinch of salt and dash of milk is all you need. if left to there own devices the kids would "
Unfortunately some brands of oats are full of sugar, usually aimed at kids to get them hooked on the brand.... they stay a loyal customer and also give it to their children....think tobacco firms and how they marketed cigarettes....it's about addiction |
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"I think we can all agree that porridge does not cause diabetes so please Sir Kier, leave our oats out of it !organic oats not sprayed with chems yes
Plain oats little bit of fruit or honey yes but not laden with syrup sugar and nutella
Who the fuck puts Nutella in porridge?
Plain oats with a pinch of salt and dash of milk is all you need. if left to there own devices the kids would
Unfortunately some brands of oats are full of sugar, usually aimed at kids to get them hooked on the brand.... they stay a loyal customer and also give it to their children....think tobacco firms and how they marketed cigarettes....it's about addiction "
You are confusing real porridge oats with the sugar and additive laden “instant” stuff.
Stupid people will buy the instant oats whereas the real rolled oats without anything added don’t take significantly longer to prepare.
Get the real stuff, cheaper, just as easy, and add a small amount of flavouring if you want. Some dried fruit, salt, or half a teaspoon of honey. |
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