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"Oh dear, he is parroting Kemi Badenoch now, all rather embarrassing." Inflation up, economy down More small boats Gray and Haigh out Popularly at -19% It’s over for him | |||
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"I imagine he will still be saying all this stuff in four years’ time, if Labour haven’t got rid of him. And all that will have happened is four years of economic stagnation. They’ve been in power for five months so far and all they have done is annoyed everyone and crashed the economy." Marginal growth is crashing the economy now? Amazing. | |||
"I imagine he will still be saying all this stuff in four years’ time, if Labour haven’t got rid of him. And all that will have happened is four years of economic stagnation. They’ve been in power for five months so far and all they have done is annoyed everyone and crashed the economy. Marginal growth is crashing the economy now? Amazing. " Claiming marginal growth while every key sector of the economy has been contracting since Labour took over is straight out of the Campbell and Mandelson spin playbook. It’s not growth, it’s stagnation at best, with the public now footing the bill for their failed policies. | |||
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"I imagine he will still be saying all this stuff in four years’ time, if Labour haven’t got rid of him. And all that will have happened is four years of economic stagnation. They’ve been in power for five months so far and all they have done is annoyed everyone and crashed the economy. Marginal growth is crashing the economy now? Amazing. Claiming marginal growth while every key sector of the economy has been contracting since Labour took over is straight out of the Campbell and Mandelson spin playbook. It’s not growth, it’s stagnation at best, with the public now footing the bill for their failed policies." O.1% growth is closer to stagnation than it is to crashing the economy. I'll give you that. Still, ridiculous to suggest that marginal growth is akin to the economy crashing. | |||
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"This forum is like an echo chamber." You preferred the previous Tory-bashing echo chamber then?   | |||
"This forum is like an echo chamber. You preferred the previous Tory-bashing echo chamber then? "Previously it was a - the Tories are inflatable, and Brexit is a good idea, foreigners cause all the problems - echo chamber. | |||
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"Government doesn't serve the country though 🤔 " This is exactly the problem with the political system we have. | |||
"The prospect of our nation being 'rewired' by Labour' gang of amateur enthusiasts is terrifying. The King should intervene." 🤣🤣 | |||
"I imagine he will still be saying all this stuff in four years’ time, if Labour haven’t got rid of him. And all that will have happened is four years of economic stagnation. They’ve been in power for five months so far and all they have done is annoyed everyone and crashed the economy. Marginal growth is crashing the economy now? Amazing. Claiming marginal growth while every key sector of the economy has been contracting since Labour took over is straight out of the Campbell and Mandelson spin playbook. It’s not growth, it’s stagnation at best, with the public now footing the bill for their failed policies. O.1% growth is closer to stagnation than it is to crashing the economy. I'll give you that. Still, ridiculous to suggest that marginal growth is akin to the economy crashing. " Grasping at straws to promote a narrative. It will be ok! | |||
"Government doesn't serve the country though 🤔 This is exactly the problem with the political system we have." Never has and never will, none are accountable... if anything, more they fuck up, more money they get ... wonder why? | |||
"I imagine he will still be saying all this stuff in four years’ time, if Labour haven’t got rid of him. And all that will have happened is four years of economic stagnation. They’ve been in power for five months so far and all they have done is annoyed everyone and crashed the economy. Marginal growth is crashing the economy now? Amazing. Claiming marginal growth while every key sector of the economy has been contracting since Labour took over is straight out of the Campbell and Mandelson spin playbook. It’s not growth, it’s stagnation at best, with the public now footing the bill for their failed policies." Isn't stagnation what Labour complained about while in opposition. Seems these days that's become the best we can hope for. When they took over it was 0.5 growth now 0.1 growth. | |||
"I imagine he will still be saying all this stuff in four years’ time, if Labour haven’t got rid of him. And all that will have happened is four years of economic stagnation. They’ve been in power for five months so far and all they have done is annoyed everyone and crashed the economy. Marginal growth is crashing the economy now? Amazing. Claiming marginal growth while every key sector of the economy has been contracting since Labour took over is straight out of the Campbell and Mandelson spin playbook. It’s not growth, it’s stagnation at best, with the public now footing the bill for their failed policies. Isn't stagnation what Labour complained about while in opposition. Seems these days that's become the best we can hope for. When they took over it was 0.5 growth now 0.1 growth. " The uncomfortable part of the 0.1% is house prices rising has held it above the negative, other areas are already in the negative. | |||
" When they took over it was 0.5 growth now 0.1 growth. " Yes you do wonder how they fucked that up , when they had the opportunity to build on an improving economy. Instead Starmer and Reeves talked the uk down for three months, released scaremongering tax ideas. And this is the outcome. Then we find out Reeves isn’t actually an economist. | |||
"I imagine he will still be saying all this stuff in four years’ time, if Labour haven’t got rid of him. And all that will have happened is four years of economic stagnation. They’ve been in power for five months so far and all they have done is annoyed everyone and crashed the economy. Marginal growth is crashing the economy now? Amazing. Claiming marginal growth while every key sector of the economy has been contracting since Labour took over is straight out of the Campbell and Mandelson spin playbook. It’s not growth, it’s stagnation at best, with the public now footing the bill for their failed policies. O.1% growth is closer to stagnation than it is to crashing the economy. I'll give you that. Still, ridiculous to suggest that marginal growth is akin to the economy crashing. Grasping at straws to promote a narrative. It will be ok!" Real life information is "grasping at straws" now. This says it all. | |||
"Government doesn't serve the country though 🤔 This is exactly the problem with the political system we have. Never has and never will, none are accountable... if anything, more they fuck up, more money they get ... wonder why?" Because they're not fucking up, the system is working as designed. | |||
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"Total overhaul of the UK he says ‘To change this country, we must change the way government serves this country. That is what mission-led government will do. From breaking down silos across government to harnessing the incredible potential of technology and innovation, it will require nothing less than the complete rewiring of the British state to deliver bold and ambitious long-term reform’. He gets worse every passing day. " But will it help to release the sausages? | |||
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"funny how a change of government has turned all fabs cabal of rightwing tory voters into student hippy trotskyites from the 70's ranting and conspiring about bringing down the state "You are seeing something I can't see, point me in the right direction | |||
"Total overhaul of the UK he says ‘To change this country, we must change the way government serves this country. That is what mission-led government will do. From breaking down silos across government to harnessing the incredible potential of technology and innovation, it will require nothing less than the complete rewiring of the British state to deliver bold and ambitious long-term reform’. He gets worse every passing day. " He still thinks he's on the campaign trail. Meaningless word salad and pie-in-the-sky ideas thrown about, hoping that something will stick. Punish the rich (or employed) was red (soy-based) meat to his fan base, but what other ideas has he really got? | |||
"Total overhaul of the UK he says ‘To change this country, we must change the way government serves this country. That is what mission-led government will do. From breaking down silos across government to harnessing the incredible potential of technology and innovation, it will require nothing less than the complete rewiring of the British state to deliver bold and ambitious long-term reform’. He gets worse every passing day. " Starmers a communist not a socialist. He and his little cronies want to control everything and everybody. Can’t stand the man! | |||
" He still thinks he's on the campaign trail. Meaningless word salad and pie-in-the-sky ideas thrown about, hoping that something will stick. Punish the rich (or employed) was red (soy-based) meat to his fan base, but what other ideas has he really got?" Economy down Inflation up Boat arrivals up 1.5 million homes not happening Slower interest rate falls due to budget UK business confidence at lowest level since pandemic after tax-raising budget ( -52 now -65). Forth monthly fall in a row. Pensioners and farmers mugged Chancellor with fake CV is not an economist | |||
" He still thinks he's on the campaign trail. Meaningless word salad and pie-in-the-sky ideas thrown about, hoping that something will stick. Punish the rich (or employed) was red (soy-based) meat to his fan base, but what other ideas has he really got? Economy down Inflation up Boat arrivals up 1.5 million homes not happening Slower interest rate falls due to budget UK business confidence at lowest level since pandemic after tax-raising budget ( -52 now -65). Forth monthly fall in a row. Pensioners and farmers mugged Chancellor with fake CV is not an economist " Is this an example of the maximum spin that could be presented on each of these issues? | |||
"Total overhaul of the UK he says ‘To change this country, we must change the way government serves this country. That is what mission-led government will do. From breaking down silos across government to harnessing the incredible potential of technology and innovation, it will require nothing less than the complete rewiring of the British state to deliver bold and ambitious long-term reform’. He gets worse every passing day. Starmers a communist not a socialist. He and his little cronies want to control everything and everybody. Can’t stand the man!" Starmer is a crypto fascist. | |||
" He still thinks he's on the campaign trail. Meaningless word salad and pie-in-the-sky ideas thrown about, hoping that something will stick. Punish the rich (or employed) was red (soy-based) meat to his fan base, but what other ideas has he really got? Economy down Inflation up Boat arrivals up 1.5 million homes not happening Slower interest rate falls due to budget UK business confidence at lowest level since pandemic after tax-raising budget ( -52 now -65). Forth monthly fall in a row. Pensioners and farmers mugged Chancellor with fake CV is not an economist " But apart from all that, everything is fine | |||
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"UK does ned a complete overall but not by the left leaning socialists!" Who by ? | |||
"UK does ned a complete overall but not by the left leaning socialists!" Good job there are no left leaning socialists in government then. | |||
"New head of Civil Service is Sir Chris Wormald. Was Head of Dept of Health during and before Covid where its response was described as chaotic. A career insider who will challenge nothing about the failing State mechanisms." in other words another complete failure at his jobs b then lol makes sence | |||
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"Oh dear, he is parroting Kemi Badenoch now, all rather embarrassing." If they believe in all this, why didn't the Conservatives do this in the 14 years they were in power? Kemi is engaging in opportunism again. | |||
"UK does ned a complete overall but not by the left leaning socialists!" Then by whom? Farage? Alan ‘Howling Laud’ Hope? Certainly not the last lot who did nothing but increase debt to keep taxes down during their 14 years in power. | |||
"Oh dear, he is parroting Kemi Badenoch now, all rather embarrassing. If they believe in all this, why didn't the Conservatives do this in the 14 years they were in power? Kemi is engaging in opportunism again. " I'm not sure I follow your line of thinking, Starmer has repeated Kemi Badenoch's phrase. What has that got to do with the last conservative government? | |||
"Oh dear, he is parroting Kemi Badenoch now, all rather embarrassing. If they believe in all this, why didn't the Conservatives do this in the 14 years they were in power? Kemi is engaging in opportunism again. I'm not sure I follow your line of thinking, Starmer has repeated Kemi Badenoch's phrase. What has that got to do with the last conservative government?" If the Conservatives had a plan for reorganising government why didn't they do it in their last 14 years? Not too difficult to understand. | |||
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"the last government went ahead with the rip-out despite not having any designs or qualificatons for the re-wire .... fucking cowboys 🤠" Can’t disagree. Now you’ve got a chancellor with a fake CV and an already failed housing minister with nvq level 2 in sign language claiming we can build 1.5 million new homes. | |||
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"Oh dear, he is parroting Kemi Badenoch now, all rather embarrassing. If they believe in all this, why didn't the Conservatives do this in the 14 years they were in power? Kemi is engaging in opportunism again. I'm not sure I follow your line of thinking, Starmer has repeated Kemi Badenoch's phrase. What has that got to do with the last conservative government? If the Conservatives had a plan for reorganising government why didn't they do it in their last 14 years? Not too difficult to understand. "The tories ran out of ideas, labour have had years to work out a plan, seeing as we are starting from such a low bar. Repeating phrases from the new Tory leader is about as good as it gets! The budget being a blow for business, the economy shrinking from growth, the WFA removal with no due diligence and an understood prospect of deaths from the removal, are some but not all of the underwhelming policies from an opposition that promised so much more, and had years to work it out. Time to stop with the whataboutery and look at what a mess this newly elected government are making. | |||
"Oh dear, he is parroting Kemi Badenoch now, all rather embarrassing. If they believe in all this, why didn't the Conservatives do this in the 14 years they were in power? Kemi is engaging in opportunism again. I'm not sure I follow your line of thinking, Starmer has repeated Kemi Badenoch's phrase. What has that got to do with the last conservative government? If the Conservatives had a plan for reorganising government why didn't they do it in their last 14 years? Not too difficult to understand.
The tories ran out of ideas, labour have had years to work out a plan, seeing as we are starting from such a low bar.
Repeating phrases from the new Tory leader is about as good as it gets! The budget being a blow for business, the economy shrinking from growth, the WFA removal with no due diligence and an understood prospect of deaths from the removal, are some but not all of the underwhelming policies from an opposition that promised so much more, and had years to work it out.
Time to stop with the whataboutery and look at what a mess this newly elected government are making. "Can we get real here for a moment and stop quoting opposition sound bites? UK gross domestic product (GDP) is estimated to have increased by 0.1% in Quarter 3 (July to Sept) 2024, following growth of 0.5% in Quarter 2 (Apr to June) 2024. GDP is estimated to have increased by 1.0% in Quarter 3 2024, compared with the same quarter a year ago. O.E.C.D. Business confidence is currently 99.38% and rising against a long term average of 100%. Hardly a catastrophic loss of confidence. The WFA is still being paid to those that need it. We should not waste Tax income on people who are often better off than those paying the Tax. | |||
"Oh dear, he is parroting Kemi Badenoch now, all rather embarrassing. If they believe in all this, why didn't the Conservatives do this in the 14 years they were in power? Kemi is engaging in opportunism again. I'm not sure I follow your line of thinking, Starmer has repeated Kemi Badenoch's phrase. What has that got to do with the last conservative government? If the Conservatives had a plan for reorganising government why didn't they do it in their last 14 years? Not too difficult to understand.
The tories ran out of ideas, labour have had years to work out a plan, seeing as we are starting from such a low bar.
Repeating phrases from the new Tory leader is about as good as it gets! The budget being a blow for business, the economy shrinking from growth, the WFA removal with no due diligence and an understood prospect of deaths from the removal, are some but not all of the underwhelming policies from an opposition that promised so much more, and had years to work it out.
Time to stop with the whataboutery and look at what a mess this newly elected government are making.
Can we get real here for a moment and stop quoting opposition sound bites?
UK gross domestic product (GDP) is estimated to have increased by 0.1% in Quarter 3 (July to Sept) 2024, following growth of 0.5% in Quarter 2 (Apr to June) 2024.
GDP is estimated to have increased by 1.0% in Quarter 3 2024, compared with the same quarter a year ago. O.E.C.D.
Business confidence is currently 99.38% and rising against a long term average of 100%. Hardly a catastrophic loss of confidence.
The WFA is still being paid to those that need it. We should not waste Tax income on people who are often better off than those paying the Tax. "What does business confidence of 99.38% mean? 100% average? Are you sure those aren’t the figures from North Korea? | |||
"Oh dear, he is parroting Kemi Badenoch now, all rather embarrassing. If they believe in all this, why didn't the Conservatives do this in the 14 years they were in power? Kemi is engaging in opportunism again. I'm not sure I follow your line of thinking, Starmer has repeated Kemi Badenoch's phrase. What has that got to do with the last conservative government? If the Conservatives had a plan for reorganising government why didn't they do it in their last 14 years? Not too difficult to understand.
The tories ran out of ideas, labour have had years to work out a plan, seeing as we are starting from such a low bar.
Repeating phrases from the new Tory leader is about as good as it gets! The budget being a blow for business, the economy shrinking from growth, the WFA removal with no due diligence and an understood prospect of deaths from the removal, are some but not all of the underwhelming policies from an opposition that promised so much more, and had years to work it out.
Time to stop with the whataboutery and look at what a mess this newly elected government are making. "Yes let's go. Do we have anything aside from the big topics of: - Christmas lights being turned on. - Ads for porridge being on later in the day. - changes to linkedin profiles. | |||
"Oh dear, he is parroting Kemi Badenoch now, all rather embarrassing. If they believe in all this, why didn't the Conservatives do this in the 14 years they were in power? Kemi is engaging in opportunism again. I'm not sure I follow your line of thinking, Starmer has repeated Kemi Badenoch's phrase. What has that got to do with the last conservative government? If the Conservatives had a plan for reorganising government why didn't they do it in their last 14 years? Not too difficult to understand.
The tories ran out of ideas, labour have had years to work out a plan, seeing as we are starting from such a low bar.
Repeating phrases from the new Tory leader is about as good as it gets! The budget being a blow for business, the economy shrinking from growth, the WFA removal with no due diligence and an understood prospect of deaths from the removal, are some but not all of the underwhelming policies from an opposition that promised so much more, and had years to work it out.
Time to stop with the whataboutery and look at what a mess this newly elected government are making.
Can we get real here for a moment and stop quoting opposition sound bites?
UK gross domestic product (GDP) is estimated to have increased by 0.1% in Quarter 3 (July to Sept) 2024, following growth of 0.5% in Quarter 2 (Apr to June) 2024.
GDP is estimated to have increased by 1.0% in Quarter 3 2024, compared with the same quarter a year ago. O.E.C.D.
Business confidence is currently 99.38% and rising against a long term average of 100%. Hardly a catastrophic loss of confidence.
The WFA is still being paid to those that need it. We should not waste Tax income on people who are often better off than those paying the Tax.
What does business confidence of 99.38% mean? 100% average?
Are you sure those aren’t the figures from North Korea?"The long term average business confidence level is 100%. At this time business confidence is almost average despite the tales of doom and gloom promulgated on social media. The OECD is not a branch of the DPRK as far as I know. | |||
"Oh dear, he is parroting Kemi Badenoch now, all rather embarrassing. If they believe in all this, why didn't the Conservatives do this in the 14 years they were in power? Kemi is engaging in opportunism again. I'm not sure I follow your line of thinking, Starmer has repeated Kemi Badenoch's phrase. What has that got to do with the last conservative government? If the Conservatives had a plan for reorganising government why didn't they do it in their last 14 years? Not too difficult to understand.
The tories ran out of ideas, labour have had years to work out a plan, seeing as we are starting from such a low bar.
Repeating phrases from the new Tory leader is about as good as it gets! The budget being a blow for business, the economy shrinking from growth, the WFA removal with no due diligence and an understood prospect of deaths from the removal, are some but not all of the underwhelming policies from an opposition that promised so much more, and had years to work it out.
Time to stop with the whataboutery and look at what a mess this newly elected government are making.
Can we get real here for a moment and stop quoting opposition sound bites?
UK gross domestic product (GDP) is estimated to have increased by 0.1% in Quarter 3 (July to Sept) 2024, following growth of 0.5% in Quarter 2 (Apr to June) 2024.
GDP is estimated to have increased by 1.0% in Quarter 3 2024, compared with the same quarter a year ago. O.E.C.D.
Business confidence is currently 99.38% and rising against a long term average of 100%. Hardly a catastrophic loss of confidence.
The WFA is still being paid to those that need it. We should not waste Tax income on people who are often better off than those paying the Tax.
What does business confidence of 99.38% mean? 100% average?
Are you sure those aren’t the figures from North Korea?
The long term average business confidence level is 100%. At this time business confidence is almost average despite the tales of doom and gloom promulgated on social media.
The OECD is not a branch of the DPRK as far as I know. "Maybe you need to check your figures. | |||
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"Oh dear, he is parroting Kemi Badenoch now, all rather embarrassing. If they believe in all this, why didn't the Conservatives do this in the 14 years they were in power? Kemi is engaging in opportunism again. I'm not sure I follow your line of thinking, Starmer has repeated Kemi Badenoch's phrase. What has that got to do with the last conservative government? If the Conservatives had a plan for reorganising government why didn't they do it in their last 14 years? Not too difficult to understand.
The tories ran out of ideas, labour have had years to work out a plan, seeing as we are starting from such a low bar.
Repeating phrases from the new Tory leader is about as good as it gets! The budget being a blow for business, the economy shrinking from growth, the WFA removal with no due diligence and an understood prospect of deaths from the removal, are some but not all of the underwhelming policies from an opposition that promised so much more, and had years to work it out.
Time to stop with the whataboutery and look at what a mess this newly elected government are making.
Can we get real here for a moment and stop quoting opposition sound bites?
UK gross domestic product (GDP) is estimated to have increased by 0.1% in Quarter 3 (July to Sept) 2024, following growth of 0.5% in Quarter 2 (Apr to June) 2024.
GDP is estimated to have increased by 1.0% in Quarter 3 2024, compared with the same quarter a year ago. O.E.C.D.
Business confidence is currently 99.38% and rising against a long term average of 100%. Hardly a catastrophic loss of confidence.
The WFA is still being paid to those that need it. We should not waste Tax income on people who are often better off than those paying the Tax. "We have come a long way from Starmer repeating what Kemi said, which he dis by the way... You have pulled some figures out of the air, here are the actuals: Business Confidence: The Lloyds Bank Business Barometer showed a decline to 41% in November, below the longterm average of 29%. Also, the Institute of Directors Economic Confidence Index fell to -65 in November, the lowest since Covid. Your growth figures are wrong the growth was 0.1% which is contracting. The contraction would have gone negative if it wasn't for house price increases and professional service doing well. The NI shock has slowed down recruitment, the overpayment on public sector wages has also hit hard. I could go on but I will leave it there on figures. Going back to that low bar the labour party had to simply improve on..... What's the plan other than Starmer repeating tory soundbites and throwing down some red meat tax rises to keep the socialists happy? | |||
"Oh dear, he is parroting Kemi Badenoch now, all rather embarrassing. If they believe in all this, why didn't the Conservatives do this in the 14 years they were in power? Kemi is engaging in opportunism again. I'm not sure I follow your line of thinking, Starmer has repeated Kemi Badenoch's phrase. What has that got to do with the last conservative government? If the Conservatives had a plan for reorganising government why didn't they do it in their last 14 years? Not too difficult to understand.
The tories ran out of ideas, labour have had years to work out a plan, seeing as we are starting from such a low bar.
Repeating phrases from the new Tory leader is about as good as it gets! The budget being a blow for business, the economy shrinking from growth, the WFA removal with no due diligence and an understood prospect of deaths from the removal, are some but not all of the underwhelming policies from an opposition that promised so much more, and had years to work it out.
Time to stop with the whataboutery and look at what a mess this newly elected government are making.
Can we get real here for a moment and stop quoting opposition sound bites?
UK gross domestic product (GDP) is estimated to have increased by 0.1% in Quarter 3 (July to Sept) 2024, following growth of 0.5% in Quarter 2 (Apr to June) 2024.
GDP is estimated to have increased by 1.0% in Quarter 3 2024, compared with the same quarter a year ago. O.E.C.D.
Business confidence is currently 99.38% and rising against a long term average of 100%. Hardly a catastrophic loss of confidence.
The WFA is still being paid to those that need it. We should not waste Tax income on people who are often better off than those paying the Tax.
We have come a long way from Starmer repeating what Kemi said, which he dis by the way...
You have pulled some figures out of the air, here are the actuals:
Business Confidence: The Lloyds Bank Business Barometer showed a decline to 41% in November, below the longterm average of 29%. Also, the Institute of Directors Economic Confidence Index fell to -65 in November, the lowest since Covid.
Your growth figures are wrong the growth was 0.1% which is contracting. The contraction would have gone negative if it wasn't for house price increases and professional service doing well. The NI shock has slowed down recruitment, the overpayment on public sector wages has also hit hard. I could go on but I will leave it there on figures.
Going back to that low bar the labour party had to simply improve on..... What's the plan other than Starmer repeating tory soundbites and throwing down some red meat tax rises to keep the socialists happy?"Check the OECD Business Confidence Index. (https://www.oecd.org/en/data/indicators/business-confidence-index-bci.html) Afterwards, please contact them and tell them they have "Pulled some figures out of the air" and ask them to cease and desist from doing so in the future because they do not suit your position on the matter. I am confident they will comply with your demands. | |||
"Oh dear, he is parroting Kemi Badenoch now, all rather embarrassing. If they believe in all this, why didn't the Conservatives do this in the 14 years they were in power? Kemi is engaging in opportunism again. I'm not sure I follow your line of thinking, Starmer has repeated Kemi Badenoch's phrase. What has that got to do with the last conservative government? If the Conservatives had a plan for reorganising government why didn't they do it in their last 14 years? Not too difficult to understand.
The tories ran out of ideas, labour have had years to work out a plan, seeing as we are starting from such a low bar.
Repeating phrases from the new Tory leader is about as good as it gets! The budget being a blow for business, the economy shrinking from growth, the WFA removal with no due diligence and an understood prospect of deaths from the removal, are some but not all of the underwhelming policies from an opposition that promised so much more, and had years to work it out.
Time to stop with the whataboutery and look at what a mess this newly elected government are making.
Can we get real here for a moment and stop quoting opposition sound bites?
UK gross domestic product (GDP) is estimated to have increased by 0.1% in Quarter 3 (July to Sept) 2024, following growth of 0.5% in Quarter 2 (Apr to June) 2024.
GDP is estimated to have increased by 1.0% in Quarter 3 2024, compared with the same quarter a year ago. O.E.C.D.
Business confidence is currently 99.38% and rising against a long term average of 100%. Hardly a catastrophic loss of confidence.
The WFA is still being paid to those that need it. We should not waste Tax income on people who are often better off than those paying the Tax.
We have come a long way from Starmer repeating what Kemi said, which he dis by the way...
You have pulled some figures out of the air, here are the actuals:
Business Confidence: The Lloyds Bank Business Barometer showed a decline to 41% in November, below the longterm average of 29%. Also, the Institute of Directors Economic Confidence Index fell to -65 in November, the lowest since Covid.
Your growth figures are wrong the growth was 0.1% which is contracting. The contraction would have gone negative if it wasn't for house price increases and professional service doing well. The NI shock has slowed down recruitment, the overpayment on public sector wages has also hit hard. I could go on but I will leave it there on figures.
Going back to that low bar the labour party had to simply improve on..... What's the plan other than Starmer repeating tory soundbites and throwing down some red meat tax rises to keep the socialists happy?
Check the OECD Business Confidence Index.
(https://www.oecd.org/en/data/indicators/business-confidence-index-bci.html)
Afterwards, please contact them and tell them they have "Pulled some figures out of the air" and ask them to cease and desist from doing so in the future because they do not suit your position on the matter. I am confident they will comply with your demands. "The OECD don't speak in terms of %. 100 is what they call average (not optimistic, nor pessimistic). Go back to the graph, filter it from the last year and then tell us confidence is currently rising (it only goes up to october). | |||
"Oh dear, he is parroting Kemi Badenoch now, all rather embarrassing. If they believe in all this, why didn't the Conservatives do this in the 14 years they were in power? Kemi is engaging in opportunism again. I'm not sure I follow your line of thinking, Starmer has repeated Kemi Badenoch's phrase. What has that got to do with the last conservative government? If the Conservatives had a plan for reorganising government why didn't they do it in their last 14 years? Not too difficult to understand.
The tories ran out of ideas, labour have had years to work out a plan, seeing as we are starting from such a low bar.
Repeating phrases from the new Tory leader is about as good as it gets! The budget being a blow for business, the economy shrinking from growth, the WFA removal with no due diligence and an understood prospect of deaths from the removal, are some but not all of the underwhelming policies from an opposition that promised so much more, and had years to work it out.
Time to stop with the whataboutery and look at what a mess this newly elected government are making.
Can we get real here for a moment and stop quoting opposition sound bites?
UK gross domestic product (GDP) is estimated to have increased by 0.1% in Quarter 3 (July to Sept) 2024, following growth of 0.5% in Quarter 2 (Apr to June) 2024.
GDP is estimated to have increased by 1.0% in Quarter 3 2024, compared with the same quarter a year ago. O.E.C.D.
Business confidence is currently 99.38% and rising against a long term average of 100%. Hardly a catastrophic loss of confidence.
The WFA is still being paid to those that need it. We should not waste Tax income on people who are often better off than those paying the Tax.
We have come a long way from Starmer repeating what Kemi said, which he dis by the way...
You have pulled some figures out of the air, here are the actuals:
Business Confidence: The Lloyds Bank Business Barometer showed a decline to 41% in November, below the longterm average of 29%. Also, the Institute of Directors Economic Confidence Index fell to -65 in November, the lowest since Covid.
Your growth figures are wrong the growth was 0.1% which is contracting. The contraction would have gone negative if it wasn't for house price increases and professional service doing well. The NI shock has slowed down recruitment, the overpayment on public sector wages has also hit hard. I could go on but I will leave it there on figures.
Going back to that low bar the labour party had to simply improve on..... What's the plan other than Starmer repeating tory soundbites and throwing down some red meat tax rises to keep the socialists happy?
Check the OECD Business Confidence Index.
(https://www.oecd.org/en/data/indicators/business-confidence-index-bci.html)
Afterwards, please contact them and tell them they have "Pulled some figures out of the air" and ask them to cease and desist from doing so in the future because they do not suit your position on the matter. I am confident they will comply with your demands. "I did say I was going to leave it there with the figures, but if you insist. The BCI only measures manufacturing, and looking at the graph the confidence is above when covid hit and below every other month since. It is in fact below 100 which in their own words "Below 100: Reflects decreased confidence, implying that businesses expect a downturn or challenges ahead". You might now be thinking manufacturing is good enough for a forecast, but remember the confidence in that element is low and BCI focuses only on the manufacturing sector due to limited data availability in other sectors like construction, retail trade, and services among non-EU OECD member countries and non-member economies. The take away: in short it is not UK specific and only focuses on manufacturing across multiple countries. | |||
