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What happened to Hunter is pretty crappy. But then, what he did was pretty crappy. What Biden did is understandable, but should not have ever happened. It's very wrong for the country and the Democrats to see him pardon his son - Democrats will have lost any vestige of moral superiority for a decade. Democrats need to stand against this, even if only performative lip service, if they want a chance in 2028. If Joe didn't want Hunter to be scrutinised, he should've have become president - it's one inevitable consequence of running for an office like that. The lawfare between Democrats and Republicans needs to end, by all means prosecute where needed, but some of the cases being thrown around are ridiculous.
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"So Biden issues 'full and unconditional' pardon for son Hunter (despite previous pledges he wouldn't). This beggars belief. What is the US becoming? It's like watching a slow motion train wreck. "
You mean his gun toting junkie son.
Trump must be laughing his socks off, when he pardons his own convictions the democrats have now had their legs cut from underneath them, and the porn star better move to a different country because she will be on santas list |
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"So Biden issues 'full and unconditional' pardon for son Hunter (despite previous pledges he wouldn't). This beggars belief. What is the US becoming? It's like watching a slow motion train wreck.
You mean his gun toting junkie son.
Trump must be laughing his socks off, when he pardons his own convictions the democrats have now had their legs cut from underneath them, and the porn star better move to a different country because she will be on santas list"
I agree.
This gives Trump the green light to do the same without criticism.
The USA really is a failing state. |
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By *otMe66Man 1 week ago
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"So Biden issues 'full and unconditional' pardon for son Hunter (despite previous pledges he wouldn't). This beggars belief. What is the US becoming? It's like watching a slow motion train wreck.
You mean his gun toting junkie son.
Trump must be laughing his socks off, when he pardons his own convictions the democrats have now had their legs cut from underneath them, and the porn star better move to a different country because she will be on santas list
I agree.
This gives Trump the green light to do the same without criticism.
The USA really is a failing state."
If you think that about the US, you must have similar opinions about the UK and most of Europe?
Political dysfunction and double standards aren’t exclusive to the US. |
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"He's actually pardoned him for any crimes he may have committed but not been charged with yet ! Does rather suggest there was lot more dirt to come and Sleepy Joe was part of it."
yes there probably was a lot more to come trumps the winner in this
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This gives Trump the green light to do the same without criticism.
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Completely agreed, this is a terrible precedent, given who is next in line.
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The USA really is a failing state."
Issues, even big ones like this, do not necessarily equate to a failing state. This is a slippery slope, yes, but a fall is a long way from inevitable. |
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"So Biden issues 'full and unconditional' pardon for son Hunter (despite previous pledges he wouldn't). This beggars belief. What is the US becoming? It's like watching a slow motion train wreck.
You mean his gun toting junkie son.
Trump must be laughing his socks off, when he pardons his own convictions the democrats have now had their legs cut from underneath them, and the porn star better move to a different country because she will be on santas list
I agree.
This gives Trump the green light to do the same without criticism.
The USA really is a failing state.
If you think that about the US, you must have similar opinions about the UK and most of Europe?
Political dysfunction and double standards aren’t exclusive to the US."
We can cover that in other threads maybe? I only referenced the US because this thread is about Biden and the US. |
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This gives Trump the green light to do the same without criticism.
Completely agreed, this is a terrible precedent, given who is next in line.
The USA really is a failing state.
Issues, even big ones like this, do not necessarily equate to a failing state. This is a slippery slope, yes, but a fall is a long way from inevitable."
It's just one example. Their entire system seems flawed.
Seems ridiculous that the president can be above the law, and can pardon their mates and in this case his son. |
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By *otMe66Man 1 week ago
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This gives Trump the green light to do the same without criticism.
Completely agreed, this is a terrible precedent, given who is next in line.
The USA really is a failing state.
Issues, even big ones like this, do not necessarily equate to a failing state. This is a slippery slope, yes, but a fall is a long way from inevitable.
It's just one example. Their entire system seems flawed.
Seems ridiculous that the president can be above the law, and can pardon their mates and in this case his son."
Why are you surprised, nepotism surrounds us and impacts most of us on a daily basis, the US are simply more open and up front about it. |
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This gives Trump the green light to do the same without criticism.
Completely agreed, this is a terrible precedent, given who is next in line.
The USA really is a failing state.
Issues, even big ones like this, do not necessarily equate to a failing state. This is a slippery slope, yes, but a fall is a long way from inevitable.
It's just one example. Their entire system seems flawed.
Seems ridiculous that the president can be above the law, and can pardon their mates and in this case his son."
It's a long-standing concept in the laws of many countries and had its uses (where common sense or overriding factors supersede poor or outdated judgements). By convention, this kind of thing (bare faced nepotism/corruption) shouldn't happen. In the same way that, by convention, the King doesn't throw his considerable theoretical powers around and the electors from the electoral college vote for the candidate their constituency voted for (they can, in theory, vote in a cat). |
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This gives Trump the green light to do the same without criticism.
Completely agreed, this is a terrible precedent, given who is next in line.
The USA really is a failing state.
Issues, even big ones like this, do not necessarily equate to a failing state. This is a slippery slope, yes, but a fall is a long way from inevitable.
It's just one example. Their entire system seems flawed.
Seems ridiculous that the president can be above the law, and can pardon their mates and in this case his son.
Why are you surprised, nepotism surrounds us and impacts most of us on a daily basis, the US are simply more open and up front about it."
I'm not surprised. |
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This gives Trump the green light to do the same without criticism.
Completely agreed, this is a terrible precedent, given who is next in line.
The USA really is a failing state.
Issues, even big ones like this, do not necessarily equate to a failing state. This is a slippery slope, yes, but a fall is a long way from inevitable.
It's just one example. Their entire system seems flawed.
Seems ridiculous that the president can be above the law, and can pardon their mates and in this case his son."
im with ya on this it’s a joke |
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It baffles me how someone who is only keeping the seat warm can still do things like this, Giving the Ukraine permission to use the missiles and now giving his son a pardon, even for crimes he might of done but no charges yet, What happens if he committed murder or is part of the VIP child ring that they're all shitting themselves over |
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By *abioMan 1 week ago
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"It's pretty grim, and exactly the sort of thing Trump would rightly be hammered for."
Well if you are going to hammer him….
In the last round of pardons Trump gave out, he gave one to the son in laws dad, mr kushner, for tax evasion…. This time round he has just named the same mr kushner to be the next us ambassador to France!
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"It's pretty grim, and exactly the sort of thing Trump would rightly be hammered for.
Well if you are going to hammer him….
In the last round of pardons Trump gave out, he gave one to the son in laws dad, mr kushner, for tax evasion…. This time round he has just named the same mr kushner to be the next us ambassador to France!
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Nothing to say about Biden then ? |
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By *abioMan 1 week ago
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Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon……. |
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By *d4ugirlsMan 1 week ago
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"What happened to Hunter is pretty crappy. But then, what he did was pretty crappy. What Biden did is understandable, but should not have ever happened. It's very wrong for the country and the Democrats to see him pardon his son - Democrats will have lost any vestige of moral superiority for a decade. Democrats need to stand against this, even if only performative lip service, if they want a chance in 2028. If Joe didn't want Hunter to be scrutinised, he should've have become president - it's one inevitable consequence of running for an office like that. The lawfare between Democrats and Republicans needs to end, by all means prosecute where needed, but some of the cases being thrown around are ridiculous.
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What happened to hunter is pretty crappy.
Cannot even believe a statement like that was made?
Hoping they hang joey out to dry and the truth is revealed on this disgraceful family. |
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"He's actually pardoned him for any crimes he may have committed but not been charged with yet ! Does rather suggest there was lot more dirt to come and Sleepy Joe was part of it."
That is astonishing and corrupt.
At that rate it's the monopoly Get Out Of Jail Free card. |
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It's about time the Biden family were investigated, especially with what's happening in Ukraine... but won't happen!
Biden, Clinton's, Obama, all love a sweet deal when it suits ... dare say the republicans are just as bad. No different to this country |
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"It's about time the Biden family were investigated, especially with what's happening in Ukraine... but won't happen!
Biden, Clinton's, Obama, all love a sweet deal when it suits ... dare say the republicans are just as bad. No different to this country "
I never understand why some people take it personally when you have a go at a MP, political party etc they're all as bad as each other and should be called out when they do something wrong or corrupt af as most of them are |
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"It's about time the Biden family were investigated, especially with what's happening in Ukraine... but won't happen!
Biden, Clinton's, Obama, all love a sweet deal when it suits ... dare say the republicans are just as bad. No different to this country
I never understand why some people take it personally when you have a go at a MP, political party etc they're all as bad as each other and should be called out when they do something wrong or corrupt af as most of them are"
It's called double standards, if a person from the old council estate owes the tax man/social then its heavies on the door and media campaign 🙄 |
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"So Biden issues 'full and unconditional' pardon for son Hunter (despite previous pledges he wouldn't). This beggars belief. What is the US becoming? It's like watching a slow motion train wreck. "
If it's Biden, Trump or any other president dishing out pardons, it's a pretty messed up situation. It seems to literally put the president above the judicial system. |
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"It's pretty grim, and exactly the sort of thing Trump would rightly be hammered for.
Well if you are going to hammer him….
In the last round of pardons Trump gave out, he gave one to the son in laws dad, mr kushner, for tax evasion…. This time round he has just named the same mr kushner to be the next us ambassador to France!
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France has enough problems to be getting on with and now they have this to look forward to  |
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"It's about time the Biden family were investigated, especially with what's happening in Ukraine... but won't happen!
Biden, Clinton's, Obama, all love a sweet deal when it suits ... dare say the republicans are just as bad. No different to this country "
...but they were...a congressional committee led by James comer investigated them for nearly two years...they found nothing...trey gowdy investigated hillary for almost 3 years...he found nothing either...didn't you know? |
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon……."
...he already pardoned bannon on the federal charge, he's been indicted on a similar state charge...he can't be pardoned on state charges |
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Shocking. If anything, Joe should have said to the American Public, "As POTUS, I expect my family to be upheld to the highest standards. I will therefore not commute my son's sentence, and will in fact ask the judges for the maximum sentence permissible by law that they can impose. Furthermore, I will remove the law that confers upon any POTUS immunity from prosecution." |
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This gives Trump the green light to do the same without criticism.
Completely agreed, this is a terrible precedent, given who is next in line.
The USA really is a failing state.
Issues, even big ones like this, do not necessarily equate to a failing state. This is a slippery slope, yes, but a fall is a long way from inevitable.
It's just one example. Their entire system seems flawed.
Seems ridiculous that the president can be above the law, and can pardon their mates and in this case his son."
and prince andrew?? |
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"Furthermore, I will remove the law that confers upon any POTUS immunity from prosecution."
You can't do that. If that law were removed, every US president would spend their entire time in office fighting off vexatious law suits. They have to have immunity just to get some work done.
That says, there's no reason for the immunity to last any longer than their presidency. |
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"Furthermore, I will remove the law that confers upon any POTUS immunity from prosecution.
You can't do that. If that law were removed, every US president would spend their entire time in office fighting off vexatious law suits. They have to have immunity just to get some work done.
That says, there's no reason for the immunity to last any longer than their presidency."
...trump's Supreme Court has negated that possibility.. |
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon……."
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
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...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January |
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"I think what you will find actually happened was, when it was being discussed some one said “What about Hunter?” And the deaf old fart replied “Pardon?” 
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...he fixed the other old farts mess...don't you agree? |
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By *ackal1Couple 1 week ago
Manchester |
Much as I detest the present Tory party even their MPs had finally had enough of the lying Boris Johnson do ousted him add to that a Labour Minister resigns over a long spent conviction so there’s still hope in the U.K
I think the US is slowly walking towards an Oligarchy.
Trump sycophants will blindly ensure Biden’s parting act of corruption will pale into an insignificant irrelevance compared to what he has planned for his reign.
His aim is money and power. Sadly the US people are blindly giving him everything he wants.
It will be too late to stop him soon.
Look up what’s happening in the North Carolina state parliament with specific reference to the dentistry act to see America’s future. As a heads up it had nothing to do with dentistry but everything to do with imposing a dictatorship and the blatant removal of democracy. It really is shocking. |
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By *abioMan 1 week ago
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January "
I was going to point this out… but I knew I would get accused of “something or other “
So here is something I think is going to shock my right leaning foes….
Do I think hunter Biden should be charged.. yes!
Do I think they have deliberately overcharged him because he happens to be hunter Biden… yes!
Look at both charges…
1 is a case of 2 years of non tax payments … when made aware of the fact the 2 years were paid off… with interest….
According to the DoJ’s own statistics.. in 98% of cases , this would be a misdemeanour offence… he would be charged and have to pay a fine
They charged it as a federal felony tax fraud case
The other case is actually more egregious
The other case is him buying a gun whilst he was addicted to drugs… on the form there is a specific question that asks if he was addicted to either drugs or alcohol.. and he ticked the no box!
We only find out later… 5 years later… he was addicted at the time because he mentioned it in his autobiography
Now… was it a stupid thing to do… yes!
Mitigation time… gun has never been used! The gun in question was given to the authorities when they asked for it! He has been in rehab and cleaned up his life, his now ex wife has gone on record as saying he has completely changed his life and she was prepared to be a character witness for him!
Now.. according to DoJ guidelines, and in 99% of cases of this sort according to DoJ them…. It would again be charged as a misdemeanour offence!
DoJ offered this to Hunter Biden he agreed to plead guilty, and the prosecutors would agree to a fine, 18 months more of drug testing to make sure he was still clean… and if after 3 years there were no other charges brought against him, then it the gun charge would be expunged from the record
Typical for this sort of case
Deal announced… republicans go batshit!
Day before this is supposed to go to court, offer is pulled… DoJ say because gun was bought in Washington DC, they decide to charge it as a federal felony gun crime!
They had ridiculously overcharged him in both cases…
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January
I was going to point this out… but I knew I would get accused of “something or other “
So here is something I think is going to shock my right leaning foes….
Do I think hunter Biden should be charged.. yes!
Do I think they have deliberately overcharged him because he happens to be hunter Biden… yes!
Look at both charges…
1 is a case of 2 years of non tax payments … when made aware of the fact the 2 years were paid off… with interest….
According to the DoJ’s own statistics.. in 98% of cases , this would be a misdemeanour offence… he would be charged and have to pay a fine
They charged it as a federal felony tax fraud case
The other case is actually more egregious
The other case is him buying a gun whilst he was addicted to drugs… on the form there is a specific question that asks if he was addicted to either drugs or alcohol.. and he ticked the no box!
We only find out later… 5 years later… he was addicted at the time because he mentioned it in his autobiography
Now… was it a stupid thing to do… yes!
Mitigation time… gun has never been used! The gun in question was given to the authorities when they asked for it! He has been in rehab and cleaned up his life, his now ex wife has gone on record as saying he has completely changed his life and she was prepared to be a character witness for him!
Now.. according to DoJ guidelines, and in 99% of cases of this sort according to DoJ them…. It would again be charged as a misdemeanour offence!
DoJ offered this to Hunter Biden he agreed to plead guilty, and the prosecutors would agree to a fine, 18 months more of drug testing to make sure he was still clean… and if after 3 years there were no other charges brought against him, then it the gun charge would be expunged from the record
Typical for this sort of case
Deal announced… republicans go batshit!
Day before this is supposed to go to court, offer is pulled… DoJ say because gun was bought in Washington DC, they decide to charge it as a federal felony gun crime!
They had ridiculously overcharged him in both cases…
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Foes?
Why are you seeing people you disagree with politically as foes
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Foes?
Why are you seeing people you disagree with politically as foes
Bit weird "
And apparently anyone not in favour of criminals getting off all charges is a Trump sycophant or right wing. And the Dems still can't understand how they lost twice to Trump.🤦♂️ |
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January
I was going to point this out… but I knew I would get accused of “something or other “
So here is something I think is going to shock my right leaning foes….
Do I think hunter Biden should be charged.. yes!
Do I think they have deliberately overcharged him because he happens to be hunter Biden… yes!
Look at both charges…
1 is a case of 2 years of non tax payments … when made aware of the fact the 2 years were paid off… with interest….
According to the DoJ’s own statistics.. in 98% of cases , this would be a misdemeanour offence… he would be charged and have to pay a fine
They charged it as a federal felony tax fraud case
The other case is actually more egregious
The other case is him buying a gun whilst he was addicted to drugs… on the form there is a specific question that asks if he was addicted to either drugs or alcohol.. and he ticked the no box!
We only find out later… 5 years later… he was addicted at the time because he mentioned it in his autobiography
Now… was it a stupid thing to do… yes!
Mitigation time… gun has never been used! The gun in question was given to the authorities when they asked for it! He has been in rehab and cleaned up his life, his now ex wife has gone on record as saying he has completely changed his life and she was prepared to be a character witness for him!
Now.. according to DoJ guidelines, and in 99% of cases of this sort according to DoJ them…. It would again be charged as a misdemeanour offence!
DoJ offered this to Hunter Biden he agreed to plead guilty, and the prosecutors would agree to a fine, 18 months more of drug testing to make sure he was still clean… and if after 3 years there were no other charges brought against him, then it the gun charge would be expunged from the record
Typical for this sort of case
Deal announced… republicans go batshit!
Day before this is supposed to go to court, offer is pulled… DoJ say because gun was bought in Washington DC, they decide to charge it as a federal felony gun crime!
They had ridiculously overcharged him in both cases…
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Do you think that the pardon reaches further towards joe biden avoiding probes into his dodgy involvement in China and Ukraine?
Do you think that the laptop story from 2020 is still Russian disinformation?
Do you think that saying repeatedly that there will be no pardon was just flat out lying to the American public?
Perhaps welding shut this particular can of worms will shield Obama, Clinton, Pelosi and biden from having to answer any awkward questions.
You really can't make that leap?
Democrats like yourself don't have or need any "foes" .....you lot are your own worst enemy! |
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January
I was going to point this out… but I knew I would get accused of “something or other “
So here is something I think is going to shock my right leaning foes….
Do I think hunter Biden should be charged.. yes!
Do I think they have deliberately overcharged him because he happens to be hunter Biden… yes!
Look at both charges…
1 is a case of 2 years of non tax payments … when made aware of the fact the 2 years were paid off… with interest….
According to the DoJ’s own statistics.. in 98% of cases , this would be a misdemeanour offence… he would be charged and have to pay a fine
They charged it as a federal felony tax fraud case
The other case is actually more egregious
The other case is him buying a gun whilst he was addicted to drugs… on the form there is a specific question that asks if he was addicted to either drugs or alcohol.. and he ticked the no box!
We only find out later… 5 years later… he was addicted at the time because he mentioned it in his autobiography
Now… was it a stupid thing to do… yes!
Mitigation time… gun has never been used! The gun in question was given to the authorities when they asked for it! He has been in rehab and cleaned up his life, his now ex wife has gone on record as saying he has completely changed his life and she was prepared to be a character witness for him!
Now.. according to DoJ guidelines, and in 99% of cases of this sort according to DoJ them…. It would again be charged as a misdemeanour offence!
DoJ offered this to Hunter Biden he agreed to plead guilty, and the prosecutors would agree to a fine, 18 months more of drug testing to make sure he was still clean… and if after 3 years there were no other charges brought against him, then it the gun charge would be expunged from the record
Typical for this sort of case
Deal announced… republicans go batshit!
Day before this is supposed to go to court, offer is pulled… DoJ say because gun was bought in Washington DC, they decide to charge it as a federal felony gun crime!
They had ridiculously overcharged him in both cases…
Do you think that the pardon reaches further towards joe biden avoiding probes into his dodgy involvement in China and Ukraine?
Do you think that the laptop story from 2020 is still Russian disinformation?
Do you think that saying repeatedly that there will be no pardon was just flat out lying to the American public?
Perhaps welding shut this particular can of worms will shield Obama, Clinton, Pelosi and biden from having to answer any awkward questions.
You really can't make that leap?
Democrats like yourself don't have or need any "foes" .....you lot are your own worst enemy! "
....one more time..
Trump....a felon
Manafort..a felon
Stone...a felon
Flynn...a felon
Bannon..a felon
Kushner...a felon... |
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January
I was going to point this out… but I knew I would get accused of “something or other “
So here is something I think is going to shock my right leaning foes….
Do I think hunter Biden should be charged.. yes!
Do I think they have deliberately overcharged him because he happens to be hunter Biden… yes!
Look at both charges…
1 is a case of 2 years of non tax payments … when made aware of the fact the 2 years were paid off… with interest….
According to the DoJ’s own statistics.. in 98% of cases , this would be a misdemeanour offence… he would be charged and have to pay a fine
They charged it as a federal felony tax fraud case
The other case is actually more egregious
The other case is him buying a gun whilst he was addicted to drugs… on the form there is a specific question that asks if he was addicted to either drugs or alcohol.. and he ticked the no box!
We only find out later… 5 years later… he was addicted at the time because he mentioned it in his autobiography
Now… was it a stupid thing to do… yes!
Mitigation time… gun has never been used! The gun in question was given to the authorities when they asked for it! He has been in rehab and cleaned up his life, his now ex wife has gone on record as saying he has completely changed his life and she was prepared to be a character witness for him!
Now.. according to DoJ guidelines, and in 99% of cases of this sort according to DoJ them…. It would again be charged as a misdemeanour offence!
DoJ offered this to Hunter Biden he agreed to plead guilty, and the prosecutors would agree to a fine, 18 months more of drug testing to make sure he was still clean… and if after 3 years there were no other charges brought against him, then it the gun charge would be expunged from the record
Typical for this sort of case
Deal announced… republicans go batshit!
Day before this is supposed to go to court, offer is pulled… DoJ say because gun was bought in Washington DC, they decide to charge it as a federal felony gun crime!
They had ridiculously overcharged him in both cases…
Do you think that the pardon reaches further towards joe biden avoiding probes into his dodgy involvement in China and Ukraine?
Do you think that the laptop story from 2020 is still Russian disinformation?
Do you think that saying repeatedly that there will be no pardon was just flat out lying to the American public?
Perhaps welding shut this particular can of worms will shield Obama, Clinton, Pelosi and biden from having to answer any awkward questions.
You really can't make that leap?
Democrats like yourself don't have or need any "foes" .....you lot are your own worst enemy! ....one more time..
Trump....a felon
Manafort..a felon
Stone...a felon
Flynn...a felon
Bannon..a felon
Kushner...a felon..."
What has this got to do with the hunter biden case?
Should all those names be prosecuted for whatever crime they have committed? Damn right! Should the standard be level for everyone regardless of political party? Hell yes!
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January "
There were also Federal tax charges plus there would be questions asked about his dodgy appointment to the board of a dodgy Ukrainian energy company despite having no previous or relevant experience/qualifications |
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By *ty31Man 1 week ago
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January "
There were also Federal tax charges plus there would be questions asked about his dodgy appointment to the board of a dodgy Ukrainian energy company despite having no previous or relevant experience/qualifications |
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January
There were also Federal tax charges plus there would be questions asked about his dodgy appointment to the board of a dodgy Ukrainian energy company despite having no previous or relevant experience/qualifications "
...James comer asked those questions already...turns out he has a degree in international law...what do you think Jared kushners credentials were when he was appointed envoy to the middle east...he couldn't even get a security clearance...now we know why... |
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"...there would be questions asked about his dodgy appointment to the board of a dodgy Ukrainian energy company despite having no previous or relevant experience/qualifications
...James comer asked those questions already...turns out he has a degree in international law...what do you think Jared kushners credentials were when he was appointed envoy to the middle east...he couldn't even get a security clearance...now we know why..."
Neither should have been given the job, however presidents can select whomever they desire, for whatever reason. Problematic? Yes. But nepotism is a clear reason and within the gift of a president (but shouldn't be). The issue with Hunter's appointment is that the underlying reason is unclear and potentially damning. |
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By *abioMan 1 week ago
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"...there would be questions asked about his dodgy appointment to the board of a dodgy Ukrainian energy company despite having no previous or relevant experience/qualifications
...James comer asked those questions already...turns out he has a degree in international law...what do you think Jared kushners credentials were when he was appointed envoy to the middle east...he couldn't even get a security clearance...now we know why...
Neither should have been given the job, however presidents can select whomever they desire, for whatever reason. Problematic? Yes. But nepotism is a clear reason and within the gift of a president (but shouldn't be). The issue with Hunter's appointment is that the underlying reason is unclear and potentially damning."
So… the father of trumps son in law (Ivanka) gets be appointed as French ambassador… and the father of another of trumps son in law (Tiffany) is going to be a Middle Eastern advisor…
Daughter in law (Eric).got to be on the RNC…. |
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"...there would be questions asked about his dodgy appointment to the board of a dodgy Ukrainian energy company despite having no previous or relevant experience/qualifications
...James comer asked those questions already...turns out he has a degree in international law...what do you think Jared kushners credentials were when he was appointed envoy to the middle east...he couldn't even get a security clearance...now we know why...
Neither should have been given the job, however presidents can select whomever they desire, for whatever reason. Problematic? Yes. But nepotism is a clear reason and within the gift of a president (but shouldn't be). The issue with Hunter's appointment is that the underlying reason is unclear and potentially damning.
So… the father of trumps son in law (Ivanka) gets be appointed as French ambassador… and the father of another of trumps son in law (Tiffany) is going to be a Middle Eastern advisor…
Daughter in law (Eric).got to be on the RNC…."
this is why yas lost the election Harris tactics attack trump it’s a thread about biden and here ya are trump trump trump when will yas learn lol |
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By *ild_oatsMan 1 week ago
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It’s interesting that America like to hold its self up to the world as beacon of democracy and good governance.
Yet, this shows that both the republican and democrat parties are two sides of the same coin. Filled with nothing but cronyism and nepotism.
Dictators, military juntas and repressive regimes around the world must be laughing.
What it must be to be an American now. |
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"It’s interesting that America like to hold its self up to the world as beacon of democracy and good governance.
Yet, this shows that both the republican and democrat parties are two sides of the same coin. Filled with nothing but cronyism and nepotism.
Dictators, military juntas and repressive regimes around the world must be laughing.
What it must be to be an American now."
ya mean like being British now U.K. USA two cheeks of the same arse |
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"...there would be questions asked about his dodgy appointment to the board of a dodgy Ukrainian energy company despite having no previous or relevant experience/qualifications
...James comer asked those questions already...turns out he has a degree in international law...what do you think Jared kushners credentials were when he was appointed envoy to the middle east...he couldn't even get a security clearance...now we know why...
Neither should have been given the job, however presidents can select whomever they desire, for whatever reason. Problematic? Yes. But nepotism is a clear reason and within the gift of a president (but shouldn't be). The issue with Hunter's appointment is that the underlying reason is unclear and potentially damning.
So… the father of trumps son in law (Ivanka) gets be appointed as French ambassador… and the father of another of trumps son in law (Tiffany) is going to be a Middle Eastern advisor…
Daughter in law (Eric).got to be on the RNC…."
Well, yes. Exactly.
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By *abioMan 1 week ago
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January
I was going to point this out… but I knew I would get accused of “something or other “
So here is something I think is going to shock my right leaning foes….
Do I think hunter Biden should be charged.. yes!
Do I think they have deliberately overcharged him because he happens to be hunter Biden… yes!
Look at both charges…
1 is a case of 2 years of non tax payments … when made aware of the fact the 2 years were paid off… with interest….
According to the DoJ’s own statistics.. in 98% of cases , this would be a misdemeanour offence… he would be charged and have to pay a fine
They charged it as a federal felony tax fraud case
The other case is actually more egregious
The other case is him buying a gun whilst he was addicted to drugs… on the form there is a specific question that asks if he was addicted to either drugs or alcohol.. and he ticked the no box!
We only find out later… 5 years later… he was addicted at the time because he mentioned it in his autobiography
Now… was it a stupid thing to do… yes!
Mitigation time… gun has never been used! The gun in question was given to the authorities when they asked for it! He has been in rehab and cleaned up his life, his now ex wife has gone on record as saying he has completely changed his life and she was prepared to be a character witness for him!
Now.. according to DoJ guidelines, and in 99% of cases of this sort according to DoJ them…. It would again be charged as a misdemeanour offence!
DoJ offered this to Hunter Biden he agreed to plead guilty, and the prosecutors would agree to a fine, 18 months more of drug testing to make sure he was still clean… and if after 3 years there were no other charges brought against him, then it the gun charge would be expunged from the record
Typical for this sort of case
Deal announced… republicans go batshit!
Day before this is supposed to go to court, offer is pulled… DoJ say because gun was bought in Washington DC, they decide to charge it as a federal felony gun crime!
They had ridiculously overcharged him in both cases…
Do you think that the pardon reaches further towards joe biden avoiding probes into his dodgy involvement in China and Ukraine?
Do you think that the laptop story from 2020 is still Russian disinformation?
Do you think that saying repeatedly that there will be no pardon was just flat out lying to the American public?
Perhaps welding shut this particular can of worms will shield Obama, Clinton, Pelosi and biden from having to answer any awkward questions.
You really can't make that leap?
Democrats like yourself don't have or need any "foes" .....you lot are your own worst enemy! ....one more time..
Trump....a felon
Manafort..a felon
Stone...a felon
Flynn...a felon
Bannon..a felon
Kushner...a felon...
What has this got to do with the hunter biden case?
Should all those names be prosecuted for whatever crime they have committed? Damn right! Should the standard be level for everyone regardless of political party? Hell yes!
"
What has this got to do with the Biden case.. simple
In the Biden case all the things he has been charged with would normally be classed as misdemeanours , which carry fines….
But these are being charged as felonies… which carry jail terms as punishments
Like I said.. he has been grossly overcharged in this cases…
Also… if you really want to alledge stuff between Hunter and the president.. lik others have said, James comer has been in charge of the house investigation for the past 3 years…. And numerous hearings on the subject.. and yet to make any recommendations to charge on anything! |
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January
I was going to point this out… but I knew I would get accused of “something or other “
So here is something I think is going to shock my right leaning foes….
Do I think hunter Biden should be charged.. yes!
Do I think they have deliberately overcharged him because he happens to be hunter Biden… yes!
Look at both charges…
1 is a case of 2 years of non tax payments … when made aware of the fact the 2 years were paid off… with interest….
According to the DoJ’s own statistics.. in 98% of cases , this would be a misdemeanour offence… he would be charged and have to pay a fine
They charged it as a federal felony tax fraud case
The other case is actually more egregious
The other case is him buying a gun whilst he was addicted to drugs… on the form there is a specific question that asks if he was addicted to either drugs or alcohol.. and he ticked the no box!
We only find out later… 5 years later… he was addicted at the time because he mentioned it in his autobiography
Now… was it a stupid thing to do… yes!
Mitigation time… gun has never been used! The gun in question was given to the authorities when they asked for it! He has been in rehab and cleaned up his life, his now ex wife has gone on record as saying he has completely changed his life and she was prepared to be a character witness for him!
Now.. according to DoJ guidelines, and in 99% of cases of this sort according to DoJ them…. It would again be charged as a misdemeanour offence!
DoJ offered this to Hunter Biden he agreed to plead guilty, and the prosecutors would agree to a fine, 18 months more of drug testing to make sure he was still clean… and if after 3 years there were no other charges brought against him, then it the gun charge would be expunged from the record
Typical for this sort of case
Deal announced… republicans go batshit!
Day before this is supposed to go to court, offer is pulled… DoJ say because gun was bought in Washington DC, they decide to charge it as a federal felony gun crime!
They had ridiculously overcharged him in both cases…
Do you think that the pardon reaches further towards joe biden avoiding probes into his dodgy involvement in China and Ukraine?
Do you think that the laptop story from 2020 is still Russian disinformation?
Do you think that saying repeatedly that there will be no pardon was just flat out lying to the American public?
Perhaps welding shut this particular can of worms will shield Obama, Clinton, Pelosi and biden from having to answer any awkward questions.
You really can't make that leap?
Democrats like yourself don't have or need any "foes" .....you lot are your own worst enemy! ....one more time..
Trump....a felon
Manafort..a felon
Stone...a felon
Flynn...a felon
Bannon..a felon
Kushner...a felon...
What has this got to do with the hunter biden case?
Should all those names be prosecuted for whatever crime they have committed? Damn right! Should the standard be level for everyone regardless of political party? Hell yes!
What has this got to do with the Biden case.. simple
In the Biden case all the things he has been charged with would normally be classed as misdemeanours , which carry fines….
But these are being charged as felonies… which carry jail terms as punishments
Like I said.. he has been grossly overcharged in this cases…
Also… if you really want to alledge stuff between Hunter and the president.. lik others have said, James comer has been in charge of the house investigation for the past 3 years…. And numerous hearings on the subject.. and yet to make any recommendations to charge on anything! "
dems in denial it’s a blanket ban on any federal charges for the last ten yrs ffs Fabio it’s indefensible |
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January
I was going to point this out… but I knew I would get accused of “something or other “
So here is something I think is going to shock my right leaning foes….
Do I think hunter Biden should be charged.. yes!
Do I think they have deliberately overcharged him because he happens to be hunter Biden… yes!
Look at both charges…
1 is a case of 2 years of non tax payments … when made aware of the fact the 2 years were paid off… with interest….
According to the DoJ’s own statistics.. in 98% of cases , this would be a misdemeanour offence… he would be charged and have to pay a fine
They charged it as a federal felony tax fraud case
The other case is actually more egregious
The other case is him buying a gun whilst he was addicted to drugs… on the form there is a specific question that asks if he was addicted to either drugs or alcohol.. and he ticked the no box!
We only find out later… 5 years later… he was addicted at the time because he mentioned it in his autobiography
Now… was it a stupid thing to do… yes!
Mitigation time… gun has never been used! The gun in question was given to the authorities when they asked for it! He has been in rehab and cleaned up his life, his now ex wife has gone on record as saying he has completely changed his life and she was prepared to be a character witness for him!
Now.. according to DoJ guidelines, and in 99% of cases of this sort according to DoJ them…. It would again be charged as a misdemeanour offence!
DoJ offered this to Hunter Biden he agreed to plead guilty, and the prosecutors would agree to a fine, 18 months more of drug testing to make sure he was still clean… and if after 3 years there were no other charges brought against him, then it the gun charge would be expunged from the record
Typical for this sort of case
Deal announced… republicans go batshit!
Day before this is supposed to go to court, offer is pulled… DoJ say because gun was bought in Washington DC, they decide to charge it as a federal felony gun crime!
They had ridiculously overcharged him in both cases…
Do you think that the pardon reaches further towards joe biden avoiding probes into his dodgy involvement in China and Ukraine?
Do you think that the laptop story from 2020 is still Russian disinformation?
Do you think that saying repeatedly that there will be no pardon was just flat out lying to the American public?
Perhaps welding shut this particular can of worms will shield Obama, Clinton, Pelosi and biden from having to answer any awkward questions.
You really can't make that leap?
Democrats like yourself don't have or need any "foes" .....you lot are your own worst enemy! ....one more time..
Trump....a felon
Manafort..a felon
Stone...a felon
Flynn...a felon
Bannon..a felon
Kushner...a felon...
What has this got to do with the hunter biden case?
Should all those names be prosecuted for whatever crime they have committed? Damn right! Should the standard be level for everyone regardless of political party? Hell yes!
What has this got to do with the Biden case.. simple
In the Biden case all the things he has been charged with would normally be classed as misdemeanours , which carry fines….
But these are being charged as felonies… which carry jail terms as punishments
Like I said.. he has been grossly overcharged in this cases…
Also… if you really want to alledge stuff between Hunter and the president.. lik others have said, James comer has been in charge of the house investigation for the past 3 years…. And numerous hearings on the subject.. and yet to make any recommendations to charge on anything! "
Well maybe the charges would have come after Jan 20th only now that the 10 year pardon has been granted....there can't and won't be any recommendations for charges. That keeps the whole damn lot outta harm's way. If one person was accused and charged then you could bet your ass that they wouldn't go down without taking as many names as possible with them.
Just for balance though, I reckon there may have been a few on team red sweating on the pardon issue as well as team blue. They're up to their necks in corruption and dodgy dealing on both sides of the house.
I would like to see the whole lot of it collapse but I fear that there would be a good few holes dug in the nevada desert in order to prevent that from happening. |
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January
I was going to point this out… but I knew I would get accused of “something or other “
So here is something I think is going to shock my right leaning foes….
Do I think hunter Biden should be charged.. yes!
Do I think they have deliberately overcharged him because he happens to be hunter Biden… yes!
Look at both charges…
1 is a case of 2 years of non tax payments … when made aware of the fact the 2 years were paid off… with interest….
According to the DoJ’s own statistics.. in 98% of cases , this would be a misdemeanour offence… he would be charged and have to pay a fine
They charged it as a federal felony tax fraud case
The other case is actually more egregious
The other case is him buying a gun whilst he was addicted to drugs… on the form there is a specific question that asks if he was addicted to either drugs or alcohol.. and he ticked the no box!
We only find out later… 5 years later… he was addicted at the time because he mentioned it in his autobiography
Now… was it a stupid thing to do… yes!
Mitigation time… gun has never been used! The gun in question was given to the authorities when they asked for it! He has been in rehab and cleaned up his life, his now ex wife has gone on record as saying he has completely changed his life and she was prepared to be a character witness for him!
Now.. according to DoJ guidelines, and in 99% of cases of this sort according to DoJ them…. It would again be charged as a misdemeanour offence!
DoJ offered this to Hunter Biden he agreed to plead guilty, and the prosecutors would agree to a fine, 18 months more of drug testing to make sure he was still clean… and if after 3 years there were no other charges brought against him, then it the gun charge would be expunged from the record
Typical for this sort of case
Deal announced… republicans go batshit!
Day before this is supposed to go to court, offer is pulled… DoJ say because gun was bought in Washington DC, they decide to charge it as a federal felony gun crime!
They had ridiculously overcharged him in both cases…
Do you think that the pardon reaches further towards joe biden avoiding probes into his dodgy involvement in China and Ukraine?
Do you think that the laptop story from 2020 is still Russian disinformation?
Do you think that saying repeatedly that there will be no pardon was just flat out lying to the American public?
Perhaps welding shut this particular can of worms will shield Obama, Clinton, Pelosi and biden from having to answer any awkward questions.
You really can't make that leap?
Democrats like yourself don't have or need any "foes" .....you lot are your own worst enemy! ....one more time..
Trump....a felon
Manafort..a felon
Stone...a felon
Flynn...a felon
Bannon..a felon
Kushner...a felon...
What has this got to do with the hunter biden case?
Should all those names be prosecuted for whatever crime they have committed? Damn right! Should the standard be level for everyone regardless of political party? Hell yes!
What has this got to do with the Biden case.. simple
In the Biden case all the things he has been charged with would normally be classed as misdemeanours , which carry fines….
But these are being charged as felonies… which carry jail terms as punishments
Like I said.. he has been grossly overcharged in this cases…
Also… if you really want to alledge stuff between Hunter and the president.. lik others have said, James comer has been in charge of the house investigation for the past 3 years…. And numerous hearings on the subject.. and yet to make any recommendations to charge on anything! dems in denial it’s a blanket ban on any federal charges for the last ten yrs ffs Fabio it’s indefensible "
Fabio is staunchly team blue, he'd defend them for pretty much anything
I think both sides are full of cunts so slag them both off
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By *abioMan 1 week ago
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January
I was going to point this out… but I knew I would get accused of “something or other “
So here is something I think is going to shock my right leaning foes….
Do I think hunter Biden should be charged.. yes!
Do I think they have deliberately overcharged him because he happens to be hunter Biden… yes!
Look at both charges…
1 is a case of 2 years of non tax payments … when made aware of the fact the 2 years were paid off… with interest….
According to the DoJ’s own statistics.. in 98% of cases , this would be a misdemeanour offence… he would be charged and have to pay a fine
They charged it as a federal felony tax fraud case
The other case is actually more egregious
The other case is him buying a gun whilst he was addicted to drugs… on the form there is a specific question that asks if he was addicted to either drugs or alcohol.. and he ticked the no box!
We only find out later… 5 years later… he was addicted at the time because he mentioned it in his autobiography
Now… was it a stupid thing to do… yes!
Mitigation time… gun has never been used! The gun in question was given to the authorities when they asked for it! He has been in rehab and cleaned up his life, his now ex wife has gone on record as saying he has completely changed his life and she was prepared to be a character witness for him!
Now.. according to DoJ guidelines, and in 99% of cases of this sort according to DoJ them…. It would again be charged as a misdemeanour offence!
DoJ offered this to Hunter Biden he agreed to plead guilty, and the prosecutors would agree to a fine, 18 months more of drug testing to make sure he was still clean… and if after 3 years there were no other charges brought against him, then it the gun charge would be expunged from the record
Typical for this sort of case
Deal announced… republicans go batshit!
Day before this is supposed to go to court, offer is pulled… DoJ say because gun was bought in Washington DC, they decide to charge it as a federal felony gun crime!
They had ridiculously overcharged him in both cases…
Do you think that the pardon reaches further towards joe biden avoiding probes into his dodgy involvement in China and Ukraine?
Do you think that the laptop story from 2020 is still Russian disinformation?
Do you think that saying repeatedly that there will be no pardon was just flat out lying to the American public?
Perhaps welding shut this particular can of worms will shield Obama, Clinton, Pelosi and biden from having to answer any awkward questions.
You really can't make that leap?
Democrats like yourself don't have or need any "foes" .....you lot are your own worst enemy! ....one more time..
Trump....a felon
Manafort..a felon
Stone...a felon
Flynn...a felon
Bannon..a felon
Kushner...a felon...
What has this got to do with the hunter biden case?
Should all those names be prosecuted for whatever crime they have committed? Damn right! Should the standard be level for everyone regardless of political party? Hell yes!
What has this got to do with the Biden case.. simple
In the Biden case all the things he has been charged with would normally be classed as misdemeanours , which carry fines….
But these are being charged as felonies… which carry jail terms as punishments
Like I said.. he has been grossly overcharged in this cases…
Also… if you really want to alledge stuff between Hunter and the president.. lik others have said, James comer has been in charge of the house investigation for the past 3 years…. And numerous hearings on the subject.. and yet to make any recommendations to charge on anything! dems in denial it’s a blanket ban on any federal charges for the last ten yrs ffs Fabio it’s indefensible
Fabio is staunchly team blue, he'd defend them for pretty much anything
I think both sides are full of cunts so slag them both off
"
When did I defend Biden in this circumstance??
Did you miss the bit where I put that Hunter Biden should be charged… but with misdemeanours rather than felonies
Did you also miss the bit where I said I don’t like the pardon one bit!!!
You can’t have a conversation here for the selective amnesia some people seem to have |
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January
I was going to point this out… but I knew I would get accused of “something or other “
So here is something I think is going to shock my right leaning foes….
Do I think hunter Biden should be charged.. yes!
Do I think they have deliberately overcharged him because he happens to be hunter Biden… yes!
Look at both charges…
1 is a case of 2 years of non tax payments … when made aware of the fact the 2 years were paid off… with interest….
According to the DoJ’s own statistics.. in 98% of cases , this would be a misdemeanour offence… he would be charged and have to pay a fine
They charged it as a federal felony tax fraud case
The other case is actually more egregious
The other case is him buying a gun whilst he was addicted to drugs… on the form there is a specific question that asks if he was addicted to either drugs or alcohol.. and he ticked the no box!
We only find out later… 5 years later… he was addicted at the time because he mentioned it in his autobiography
Now… was it a stupid thing to do… yes!
Mitigation time… gun has never been used! The gun in question was given to the authorities when they asked for it! He has been in rehab and cleaned up his life, his now ex wife has gone on record as saying he has completely changed his life and she was prepared to be a character witness for him!
Now.. according to DoJ guidelines, and in 99% of cases of this sort according to DoJ them…. It would again be charged as a misdemeanour offence!
DoJ offered this to Hunter Biden he agreed to plead guilty, and the prosecutors would agree to a fine, 18 months more of drug testing to make sure he was still clean… and if after 3 years there were no other charges brought against him, then it the gun charge would be expunged from the record
Typical for this sort of case
Deal announced… republicans go batshit!
Day before this is supposed to go to court, offer is pulled… DoJ say because gun was bought in Washington DC, they decide to charge it as a federal felony gun crime!
They had ridiculously overcharged him in both cases…
Do you think that the pardon reaches further towards joe biden avoiding probes into his dodgy involvement in China and Ukraine?
Do you think that the laptop story from 2020 is still Russian disinformation?
Do you think that saying repeatedly that there will be no pardon was just flat out lying to the American public?
Perhaps welding shut this particular can of worms will shield Obama, Clinton, Pelosi and biden from having to answer any awkward questions.
You really can't make that leap?
Democrats like yourself don't have or need any "foes" .....you lot are your own worst enemy! ....one more time..
Trump....a felon
Manafort..a felon
Stone...a felon
Flynn...a felon
Bannon..a felon
Kushner...a felon...
What has this got to do with the hunter biden case?
Should all those names be prosecuted for whatever crime they have committed? Damn right! Should the standard be level for everyone regardless of political party? Hell yes!
What has this got to do with the Biden case.. simple
In the Biden case all the things he has been charged with would normally be classed as misdemeanours , which carry fines….
But these are being charged as felonies… which carry jail terms as punishments
Like I said.. he has been grossly overcharged in this cases…
Also… if you really want to alledge stuff between Hunter and the president.. lik others have said, James comer has been in charge of the house investigation for the past 3 years…. And numerous hearings on the subject.. and yet to make any recommendations to charge on anything! dems in denial it’s a blanket ban on any federal charges for the last ten yrs ffs Fabio it’s indefensible
Fabio is staunchly team blue, he'd defend them for pretty much anything
I think both sides are full of cunts so slag them both off
When did I defend Biden in this circumstance??
Did you miss the bit where I put that Hunter Biden should be charged… but with misdemeanours rather than felonies
Did you also miss the bit where I said I don’t like the pardon one bit!!!
You can’t have a conversation here for the selective amnesia some people seem to have "
Sure thing
You waffle on
The system is of course wrong and Fabio is of course right
Wind your neck in |
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"Anyway answer ing the questions…..
Is it hypocritical what Biden has done…. Yes!
Do I like it…. Not one bit
Can trump sycophants complain? Only if they have selective amnesia as in the case of mr kushner about…
And manifort, and Flynn, and Roger stone, and he will probably find a way to expunge bannon…….
Fabio, they literally are as bad as each other in relation to this..
It's an abhorrent use of power and sends a message which is pretty crap that will permeate down to all levels of society..
There are no 'what about' so and so points of any validity in this type of abuse of power and what it means for the so called justice system..
...the truth of the matter is...hunter biden was drug addict, during his addiction he owned/bought a gun.
A regular citizen who was caught doing this, would probably never even been charged. But he was, and to be honest, this is Biden’s last "fuck you " to trump...the circus is coming to town in January
I was going to point this out… but I knew I would get accused of “something or other “
So here is something I think is going to shock my right leaning foes….
Do I think hunter Biden should be charged.. yes!
Do I think they have deliberately overcharged him because he happens to be hunter Biden… yes!
Look at both charges…
1 is a case of 2 years of non tax payments … when made aware of the fact the 2 years were paid off… with interest….
According to the DoJ’s own statistics.. in 98% of cases , this would be a misdemeanour offence… he would be charged and have to pay a fine
They charged it as a federal felony tax fraud case
The other case is actually more egregious
The other case is him buying a gun whilst he was addicted to drugs… on the form there is a specific question that asks if he was addicted to either drugs or alcohol.. and he ticked the no box!
We only find out later… 5 years later… he was addicted at the time because he mentioned it in his autobiography
Now… was it a stupid thing to do… yes!
Mitigation time… gun has never been used! The gun in question was given to the authorities when they asked for it! He has been in rehab and cleaned up his life, his now ex wife has gone on record as saying he has completely changed his life and she was prepared to be a character witness for him!
Now.. according to DoJ guidelines, and in 99% of cases of this sort according to DoJ them…. It would again be charged as a misdemeanour offence!
DoJ offered this to Hunter Biden he agreed to plead guilty, and the prosecutors would agree to a fine, 18 months more of drug testing to make sure he was still clean… and if after 3 years there were no other charges brought against him, then it the gun charge would be expunged from the record
Typical for this sort of case
Deal announced… republicans go batshit!
Day before this is supposed to go to court, offer is pulled… DoJ say because gun was bought in Washington DC, they decide to charge it as a federal felony gun crime!
They had ridiculously overcharged him in both cases…
Do you think that the pardon reaches further towards joe biden avoiding probes into his dodgy involvement in China and Ukraine?
Do you think that the laptop story from 2020 is still Russian disinformation?
Do you think that saying repeatedly that there will be no pardon was just flat out lying to the American public?
Perhaps welding shut this particular can of worms will shield Obama, Clinton, Pelosi and biden from having to answer any awkward questions.
You really can't make that leap?
Democrats like yourself don't have or need any "foes" .....you lot are your own worst enemy! ....one more time..
Trump....a felon
Manafort..a felon
Stone...a felon
Flynn...a felon
Bannon..a felon
Kushner...a felon...
What has this got to do with the hunter biden case?
Should all those names be prosecuted for whatever crime they have committed? Damn right! Should the standard be level for everyone regardless of political party? Hell yes!
What has this got to do with the Biden case.. simple
In the Biden case all the things he has been charged with would normally be classed as misdemeanours , which carry fines….
But these are being charged as felonies… which carry jail terms as punishments
Like I said.. he has been grossly overcharged in this cases…
Also… if you really want to alledge stuff between Hunter and the president.. lik others have said, James comer has been in charge of the house investigation for the past 3 years…. And numerous hearings on the subject.. and yet to make any recommendations to charge on anything! dems in denial it’s a blanket ban on any federal charges for the last ten yrs ffs Fabio it’s indefensible
Fabio is staunchly team blue, he'd defend them for pretty much anything
I think both sides are full of cunts so slag them both off
When did I defend Biden in this circumstance??
Did you miss the bit where I put that Hunter Biden should be charged… but with misdemeanours rather than felonies
Did you also miss the bit where I said I don’t like the pardon one bit!!!
You can’t have a conversation here for the selective amnesia some people seem to have
Sure thing
You waffle on
The system is of course wrong and Fabio is of course right
Wind your neck in"
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