FabSwingers.com > Forums > Politics > NHS in Marriott for Refugees
Jump to: Newest in thread
| |||
| |||
| |||
"Can you explain this in layman’s terms? " It's a shocking revelation: 'Daily Mail reader outraged about immigrants.' | |||
| |||
| |||
| |||
"Locals in Altrincham, Greater Manchester, have been told migrants being housed at a hotel in their town can access 'private healthcare'. Its is the Daily Express, not Mail. Not really equality though if you’re a tax payer is it. " The outrage was in the Daily Mail too. It was just the first one that came up. Although I apologise for offending Daily Mail readers by associating them with Daily Express readers. And I apologise to Daily Express readers for associating them with Daily Mail readers. | |||
"Locals in Altrincham, Greater Manchester, have been told migrants being housed at a hotel in their town can access 'private healthcare'. Its is the Daily Express, not Mail. Not really equality though if you’re a tax payer is it. The outrage was in the Daily Mail too. It was just the first one that came up. Although I apologise for offending Daily Mail readers by associating them with Daily Express readers. And I apologise to Daily Express readers for associating them with Daily Mail readers." So do you think people who have never contributed to the welfare state system, should benefit from it ? | |||
| |||
"Can you explain this in layman’s terms? It's a shocking revelation: 'Daily Mail reader outraged about immigrants.'" How about Daily Mail reader annoyed that they can't get a doctors appointment yet certain people have their own personal treatment centre that the Daily Mail reader cannot access. It's a shame those certain people are asylum seekers, it's not their fault. However it doesn't make the annoyance any less worthy. | |||
"Locals in Altrincham, Greater Manchester, have been told migrants being housed at a hotel in their town can access 'private healthcare'. Its is the Daily Express, not Mail. Not really equality though if you’re a tax payer is it. The outrage was in the Daily Mail too. It was just the first one that came up. Although I apologise for offending Daily Mail readers by associating them with Daily Express readers. And I apologise to Daily Express readers for associating them with Daily Mail readers. So do you think people who have never contributed to the welfare state system, should benefit from it ?" Only for life saving treatment. | |||
"Locals in Altrincham, Greater Manchester, have been told migrants being housed at a hotel in their town can access 'private healthcare'. Its is the Daily Express, not Mail. Not really equality though if you’re a tax payer is it. The outrage was in the Daily Mail too. It was just the first one that came up. Although I apologise for offending Daily Mail readers by associating them with Daily Express readers. And I apologise to Daily Express readers for associating them with Daily Mail readers. So do you think people who have never contributed to the welfare state system, should benefit from it ?" How is this question related to Daily Mail and Daily Express readers being outraged by immigrants over something that someone said during a public meeting about possible not-for-profit healthcare provider being used? I guess the short answer is, I don't read either of those publications. | |||
"whichever, doesn't matter ... this creates more jobs in the healthcare sector .... win! " Mmm , yes more doctors/nurses. What about housing? What what tax rate raising. Education? Police. You need to see the bigger picture. | |||
"whichever, doesn't matter ... this creates more jobs in the healthcare sector .... win! " How can it create more jobs? Apparently we don't have enough doctors or nurses. Are we pulling them out of our arses? | |||
"whichever, doesn't matter ... this creates more jobs in the healthcare sector .... win! Mmm , yes more doctors/nurses. What about housing? What what tax rate raising. Education? Police. You need to see the bigger picture. " i don't need to do anything you demand of me ... you're not that important | |||
"Locals in Altrincham, Greater Manchester, have been told migrants being housed at a hotel in their town can access 'private healthcare'. Its is the Daily Express, not Mail. Not really equality though if you’re a tax payer is it. The outrage was in the Daily Mail too. It was just the first one that came up. Although I apologise for offending Daily Mail readers by associating them with Daily Express readers. And I apologise to Daily Express readers for associating them with Daily Mail readers. So do you think people who have never contributed to the welfare state system, should benefit from it ? Only for life saving treatment. " It doesn’t work that way. Rob Bellingham, Chief Officer for Commissioning at NHS Greater Manchester, said: "We have a duty to secure the provision of safe and appropriate NHS care for people while their asylum claims are being managed. "NHS Greater Manchester has made arrangements with a local primary care provider to ensure asylum seekers who have arrived very recently receive the immediate care they need." | |||
"whichever, doesn't matter ... this creates more jobs in the healthcare sector .... win! How can it create more jobs? Apparently we don't have enough doctors or nurses. Are we pulling them out of our arses?" you could try if you want ... there seems to be plenty of people pulling faux outrage from out of theirs, maybe they could have a check for the odd healthcare worker while their about it | |||
| |||
"Locals in Altrincham, Greater Manchester, have been told migrants being housed at a hotel in their town can access 'private healthcare'. Its is the Daily Express, not Mail. Not really equality though if you’re a tax payer is it. The outrage was in the Daily Mail too. It was just the first one that came up. Although I apologise for offending Daily Mail readers by associating them with Daily Express readers. And I apologise to Daily Express readers for associating them with Daily Mail readers. So do you think people who have never contributed to the welfare state system, should benefit from it ? Only for life saving treatment. It doesn’t work that way. Rob Bellingham, Chief Officer for Commissioning at NHS Greater Manchester, said: "We have a duty to secure the provision of safe and appropriate NHS care for people while their asylum claims are being managed. "NHS Greater Manchester has made arrangements with a local primary care provider to ensure asylum seekers who have arrived very recently receive the immediate care they need."" I know it doesn't work that way. You asked a question, I answered what I think should be the case. | |||
"whichever, doesn't matter ... this creates more jobs in the healthcare sector .... win! How can it create more jobs? Apparently we don't have enough doctors or nurses. Are we pulling them out of our arses? you could try if you want ... there seems to be plenty of people pulling faux outrage from out of theirs, maybe they could have a check for the odd healthcare worker while their about it " Or you could try answer the question. How is it possible to create morewmployment when we can't fill the positions currently available? | |||
"whichever, doesn't matter ... this creates more jobs in the healthcare sector .... win! Mmm , yes more doctors/nurses. What about housing? What what tax rate raising. Education? Police. You need to see the bigger picture. i don't need to do anything you demand of me ... you're not that important" Neither are both of us according to this government. We are only the tax payers funding this. | |||
| |||
"whichever, doesn't matter ... this creates more jobs in the healthcare sector .... win! How can it create more jobs? Apparently we don't have enough doctors or nurses. Are we pulling them out of our arses? you could try if you want ... there seems to be plenty of people pulling faux outrage from out of theirs, maybe they could have a check for the odd healthcare worker while their about it Or you could try answer the question. How is it possible to create morewmployment when we can't fill the positions currently available?" perhaps the righties could demand that dole layabouts go and fill the vacancies to get their sponge money | |||
"This is the reality: More than 500 seriously ill patients died last year before they could get treatment in hospital after the ambulance they called for took up to 15 hours to reach them, an investigation by the Guardian reveals." How is this related to the outrage of the non-story in the OP? | |||
"whichever, doesn't matter ... this creates more jobs in the healthcare sector .... win! How can it create more jobs? Apparently we don't have enough doctors or nurses. Are we pulling them out of our arses? you could try if you want ... there seems to be plenty of people pulling faux outrage from out of theirs, maybe they could have a check for the odd healthcare worker while their about it Or you could try answer the question. How is it possible to create morewmployment when we can't fill the positions currently available? perhaps the righties could demand that dole layabouts go and fill the vacancies to get their sponge money" Perhaps you realised your assertion is nonsense. It should be simple to answer | |||
| |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win!" And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers?" that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster " Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster " but then the whole reason for the thread could be more made up bollocks from a story tory supporting press ... who knows? | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster but then the whole reason for the thread could be more made up bollocks from a story tory supporting press ... who knows?" It's hard to make things up that are captured on video... | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster but then the whole reason for the thread could be more made up bollocks from a story tory supporting press ... who knows? It's hard to make things up that are captured on video..." you've got previous for doing just that though hey | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster but then the whole reason for the thread could be more made up bollocks from a story tory supporting press ... who knows? It's hard to make things up that are captured on video... you've got previous for doing just that though hey " Excuse me? Are you asserting that I make things up? | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. " Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x" And you're blaming immigrants for this? | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x" you do have the choice between private or nhs | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this?" We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x you do have the choice between private or nhs " Of course anyone does, but in most cases if not all private care will cost you. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x you do have the choice between private or nhs Of course anyone does, but in most cases if not all private care will cost you. " so it is a choice ... win! | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . " Asylum seekers? | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? " Most are bogus, making it harder for genuine asylum claimants | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? " Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. " Call me old fashioned, but I much prefer to put legal residence of the UK , the ones that paid taxes all their lives , before someone that paid a people struggle to ferry them from France to the UK. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Most are bogus, making it harder for genuine asylum claimants" Is it their fault that the NHS is struggling? | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. " They're French? | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Most are bogus, making it harder for genuine asylum claimants Is it their fault that the NHS is struggling?" Well it's not going to help is it if 10,000s unentitled asylum seekers want treatment? | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Most are bogus, making it harder for genuine asylum claimants Is it their fault that the NHS is struggling?" The ageing population, changing patterns of disease – with more people living with multiple long-term conditions – and rising public and patient expectations … So extra numbers to an already service struggling isn’t going to help. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French?" Who is French? | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Most are bogus, making it harder for genuine asylum claimants Is it their fault that the NHS is struggling? Well it's not going to help is it if 10,000s unentitled asylum seekers want treatment?" Might make a small dent. But compared to other factors it's basically irrelevant. But blaming immigrants for everything is an effective tactic to sell newspapers (or get traffic on your website). | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French?" The people you're talking about. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. " Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. | |||
| |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. " So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? | |||
"I am a politician how do I keep my flock in line. I announce that the NHS is at its knees, education is struggling, public services is about to fail, G.P'S are struggling to make their targets. Then I announce my plans to make it better. Then as you all catch on to my lies sorry failings. I turn your attention to high immigration figures and relate that to the NHS, schools, public services etc services they will have to use to just get on with life as this country is set that way. So you get scared blame the immigrants get angry that they are taking your share. when you never had a share in the first place." Is your name Keir by any chance | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems?" Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. " Think you missed Vietnam | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ?" Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? | |||
"I am a politician how do I keep my flock in line. I announce that the NHS is at its knees, education is struggling, public services is about to fail, G.P'S are struggling to make their targets. Then I announce my plans to make it better. Then as you all catch on to my lies sorry failings. I turn your attention to high immigration figures and relate that to the NHS, schools, public services etc services they will have to use to just get on with life as this country is set that way. So you get scared blame the immigrants get angry that they are taking your share. when you never had a share in the first place. Is your name Keir by any chance " No but I wouldn't mind a couple of suits. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems?" Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. | |||
"I am a politician how do I keep my flock in line. I announce that the NHS is at its knees, education is struggling, public services is about to fail, G.P'S are struggling to make their targets. Then I announce my plans to make it better. Then as you all catch on to my lies sorry failings. I turn your attention to high immigration figures and relate that to the NHS, schools, public services etc services they will have to use to just get on with life as this country is set that way. So you get scared blame the immigrants get angry that they are taking your share. when you never had a share in the first place. Is your name Keir by any chance No but I wouldn't mind a couple of suits." And glasses | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. " Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. | |||
"I am a politician how do I keep my flock in line. I announce that the NHS is at its knees, education is struggling, public services is about to fail, G.P'S are struggling to make their targets. Then I announce my plans to make it better. Then as you all catch on to my lies sorry failings. I turn your attention to high immigration figures and relate that to the NHS, schools, public services etc services they will have to use to just get on with life as this country is set that way. So you get scared blame the immigrants get angry that they are taking your share. when you never had a share in the first place. Is your name Keir by any chance " It is what they all do, and if they have yet to be in power when they do they will do the same and we will continue to debate be distracted by whatever MSM tells us to look at or be scared of withholding any grain of hope. There is a growing movement in this country of those who do not vote, a group these non voters have lobbied the government for a Switzerland system of government. (Apparently they have had a coalition government controlled by the people for 40+ years), in other words the government do as it is directed by its people shocking I know and I wasn't aware of it. Around xmas the movement will release videos on YouTube to start their campaign, I looked up the name of the type of government Switzerland has and it is called Direct Democracy. Something I would go for. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. " Its only unclear to someone that believes half of the illegal immigration to the UK is by French citizens. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. Its only unclear to someone that believes half of the illegal immigration to the UK is by French citizens. " Is that what you believe? This is what you implied, and hence why I asked for clarification. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. Its only unclear to someone that believes half of the illegal immigration to the UK is by French citizens. Is that what you believe? This is what you implied, and hence why I asked for clarification. " When did I say 46% were French? | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. Its only unclear to someone that believes half of the illegal immigration to the UK is by French citizens. Is that what you believe? This is what you implied, and hence why I asked for clarification. When did I say 46% were French?" You didn't say it. As mentioned, you implied it. That's why I asked for clarification. This is generally how conversation works. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. Its only unclear to someone that believes half of the illegal immigration to the UK is by French citizens. Is that what you believe? This is what you implied, and hence why I asked for clarification. When did I say 46% were French? You didn't say it. As mentioned, you implied it. That's why I asked for clarification. This is generally how conversation works. " No two tone I stated a statistic that: More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So you assumed the other 46% must be French in national because the boats came from France. You know the old saying assumption , makes an Ass of..,, you know the rest. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. Its only unclear to someone that believes half of the illegal immigration to the UK is by French citizens. Is that what you believe? This is what you implied, and hence why I asked for clarification. When did I say 46% were French? You didn't say it. As mentioned, you implied it. That's why I asked for clarification. This is generally how conversation works. No two tone I stated a statistic that: More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So you assumed the other 46% must be French in national because the boats came from France. " No very specifically I didn't assume anything, I asked the question. This is what you do when someone implies something, you ask for clarification. This is a very normal way of communicating. " You know the old saying assumption , makes an Ass of..,, you know the rest. " Good job no one is making assumptions. | |||
| |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. Its only unclear to someone that believes half of the illegal immigration to the UK is by French citizens. Is that what you believe? This is what you implied, and hence why I asked for clarification. When did I say 46% were French? You didn't say it. As mentioned, you implied it. That's why I asked for clarification. This is generally how conversation works. No two tone I stated a statistic that: More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So you assumed the other 46% must be French in national because the boats came from France. No very specifically I didn't assume anything, I asked the question. This is what you do when someone implies something, you ask for clarification. This is a very normal way of communicating. You know the old saying assumption , makes an Ass of..,, you know the rest. Good job no one is making assumptions. " Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. " “So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems?” The bottom line is your words. My previous statement about wind me up/ not bright. In your case it’s the latter. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. Its only unclear to someone that believes half of the illegal immigration to the UK is by French citizens. Is that what you believe? This is what you implied, and hence why I asked for clarification. When did I say 46% were French? You didn't say it. As mentioned, you implied it. That's why I asked for clarification. This is generally how conversation works. No two tone I stated a statistic that: More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So you assumed the other 46% must be French in national because the boats came from France. No very specifically I didn't assume anything, I asked the question. This is what you do when someone implies something, you ask for clarification. This is a very normal way of communicating. You know the old saying assumption , makes an Ass of..,, you know the rest. Good job no one is making assumptions. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. " “So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems?” The bottom line is your words. My previous statement about wind me up/ not bright. In your case it’s the latter. " I've tried my best to explain basic concepts of how conversation works. But I don't seem to be getting anywhere. Let's get back on topic? | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. Its only unclear to someone that believes half of the illegal immigration to the UK is by French citizens. Is that what you believe? This is what you implied, and hence why I asked for clarification. When did I say 46% were French? You didn't say it. As mentioned, you implied it. That's why I asked for clarification. This is generally how conversation works. No two tone I stated a statistic that: More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So you assumed the other 46% must be French in national because the boats came from France. No very specifically I didn't assume anything, I asked the question. This is what you do when someone implies something, you ask for clarification. This is a very normal way of communicating. You know the old saying assumption , makes an Ass of..,, you know the rest. Good job no one is making assumptions. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. " “So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems?” The bottom line is your words. My previous statement about wind me up/ not bright. In your case it’s the latter. I've tried my best to explain basic concepts of how conversation works. But I don't seem to be getting anywhere. Let's get back on topic?" Yep basic the key word. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. " id put your readers on it werent a very complicated post were it 😂 | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. id put your readers on it werent a very complicated post were it 😂" In fairness, it wasn't clear, and it wasn't related to the points being discussed. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. id put your readers on it werent a very complicated post were it 😂" | |||
| |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. id put your readers on it werent a very complicated post were it 😂 In fairness, it wasn't clear, and it wasn't related to the points being discussed. " you might have to type in CAPS ben so its clearer | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. id put your readers on it werent a very complicated post were it 😂 In fairness, it wasn't clear, and it wasn't related to the points being discussed. you might have to type in CAPS ben so its clearer " Or the wall. X | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. id put your readers on it werent a very complicated post were it 😂 In fairness, it wasn't clear, and it wasn't related to the points being discussed. you might have to type in CAPS ben so its clearer " Can we get back on track with the thread please, instead of the childish insults? Daily Mail, and Daily Express readers panicking about immigrants over something that hasn't happened. | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. id put your readers on it werent a very complicated post were it 😂 In fairness, it wasn't clear, and it wasn't related to the points being discussed. you might have to type in CAPS ben so its clearer " You must mean John? | |||
"i read the article and nowhere did it mention a shortfall of staff in the the private healthcare sector .... more business = more jobs ... like thay say'it's economics stupid', in this case market driven growth .... win! And you're absolutely sure these are private healthcare providers? that's the assertion made earlier in the thread by another enraged/outraged poster Which has been proven to be false, if you read the article, it states the council said they would utilise private healthcare, only to then say it will fall on the NHS. Wish I had that choice, if my local NHS is too busy to accommodate me, can I get private health care??? Must be nice , considering someone that never contributed a penny to the service gets a back plan . Nice eh x And you're blaming immigrants for this? We are not talking about immigrants, we are debating Illegal immigrants. Controlled Immigration is a good thing for any country, illegal immigration’s is not . Asylum seekers? Seeking asylum from France? I think you got asylum an economic , mixed up. They're French? Who is French? The people you're talking about. Doh the illegal immigration ie people being smuggled into the UK are leaving from the beaches of France. More than half (54 per cent) of those who have made the crossing come from just five countries – Afghanistan, Iran, Eritrea, Syria and Sudan. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Can you explain what a citizen/citizenship is. ? Citizenship: the position or status of being a citizen of a particular country. Now we've got that irrelevant and bizarre question out of the way. So 46% are French people? And what's this got to do with people blaming them for the NHS's problems? Not sure if like your mate pony and trap. You’re trying to wind me up to get a ban. Usually MO. Or you’re just not very bright. I was in Rome Italy in the summer, so I must be Italian now under your theory. Why would French nationalists with passport pay people struggling gangs to get the to the UK, be easier to fly and Eurostar. Not sure why you've transitioned into personal attacks. I am merely asking for some clarification on your unclear posts. id put your readers on it werent a very complicated post were it 😂 In fairness, it wasn't clear, and it wasn't related to the points being discussed. you might have to type in CAPS ben so its clearer Can we get back on track with the thread please, instead of the childish insults? Daily Mail, and Daily Express readers panicking about immigrants over something that hasn't happened. " I’m off to do some colouring in, it’s more mentally stimulating than this conversation. | |||
| |||
"Locals in Altrincham, Greater Manchester, have been told migrants being housed at a hotel in their town can access 'private healthcare'. Its is the Daily Express, not Mail. Not really equality though if you’re a tax payer is it. " But should it be reported or should it be kept quiet. | |||
"Locals in Altrincham, Greater Manchester, have been told migrants being housed at a hotel in their town can access 'private healthcare'. Its is the Daily Express, not Mail. Not really equality though if you’re a tax payer is it. But should it be reported or should it be kept quiet. " Apparently who reported something matters lot more than what is being reported. | |||
"Locals in Altrincham, Greater Manchester, have been told migrants being housed at a hotel in their town can access 'private healthcare'. Its is the Daily Express, not Mail. Not really equality though if you’re a tax payer is it. But should it be reported or should it be kept quiet. " It's being falsely reported for a reason. That's the interesting point here. Aside from the standard crew who are permanently outraged about foreigners, does anyone care about something that was said at a townhall meeting that isn't going to happen? | |||
"Locals in Altrincham, Greater Manchester, have been told migrants being housed at a hotel in their town can access 'private healthcare'. Its is the Daily Express, not Mail. Not really equality though if you’re a tax payer is it. But should it be reported or should it be kept quiet. It's being falsely reported for a reason. That's the interesting point here. Aside from the standard crew who are permanently outraged about foreigners, does anyone care about something that was said at a townhall meeting that isn't going to happen? " Which part of that is false? A council leader basically told that it's the case. Are you saying that the council leader lied? | |||
"Looking forward to another thread being derailed " If you just ignore his wittering it's honestly the best thing | |||
| |||
"I've not read either publication, so only seen the bare bones of this on here. I'd imagine that the majority of its readers had voted for the governments' tactics of the previous 14 yours, that led to the volumes of people here, lack of resources to process them etc and their housing. Those actions have consequences, which includes those people being provided with medical services whilst here. No surprises! " Governments are not magicians who create resources our of nothing. Given the struggle to find people and money for NHS, policing and other critical services for the country, where do you think the resources to process asylum seekers are going to come from? | |||
"Looking forward to another thread being derailed If you just ignore his wittering it's honestly the best thing " Is every non-outraged-by-immigrants point "wittering"? I generally agree though, this section of for forum is a hotbed of: - Complaining about immigrants - Pretending Brexit was a good idea. - Panicking about Labour not already having fixed the country within the first few months. - Complaining about Trans people existing. And anyone who deviates from this formula is ridiculed and driven off the forums. | |||
"Looking forward to another thread being derailed If you just ignore his wittering it's honestly the best thing Is every non-outraged-by-immigrants point "wittering"? I generally agree though, this section of for forum is a hotbed of: - Complaining about immigrants - Pretending Brexit was a good idea. - Panicking about Labour not already having fixed the country within the first few months. - Complaining about Trans people existing. And anyone who deviates from this formula is ridiculed and driven off the forums. " Posting random remarks without arguing the problem at hand is wittering. OP posts that a council leader said asylum seekers will get private healthcare. His concerns being the money being spent on it and the fact that the country doesn't have enough resources to take care of its citizens. If you believe that the source is false, you can point out why you believe is false. But there is a video of council leader saying that. If you believe that the money should be spent this way, you could argue where it's going to come from. Instead of making a reasoned argument, you come here and pass lame remarks about "daily mail" readers, people respond to you in kind and then pretend like you are the victim here being ridiculed. | |||
"Looking forward to another thread being derailed If you just ignore his wittering it's honestly the best thing Is every non-outraged-by-immigrants point "wittering"? I generally agree though, this section of for forum is a hotbed of: - Complaining about immigrants - Pretending Brexit was a good idea. - Panicking about Labour not already having fixed the country within the first few months. - Complaining about Trans people existing. And anyone who deviates from this formula is ridiculed and driven off the forums. Posting random remarks without arguing the problem at hand is wittering. OP posts that a council leader said asylum seekers will get private healthcare. His concerns being the money being spent on it and the fact that the country doesn't have enough resources to take care of its citizens. If you believe that the source is false, you can point out why you believe is false. But there is a video of council leader saying that. If you believe that the money should be spent this way, you could argue where it's going to come from. Instead of making a reasoned argument, you come here and pass lame remarks about "daily mail" readers, people respond to you in kind and then pretend like you are the victim here being ridiculed." ********************************* | |||
"Looking forward to another thread being derailed If you just ignore his wittering it's honestly the best thing Is every non-outraged-by-immigrants point "wittering"? I generally agree though, this section of for forum is a hotbed of: - Complaining about immigrants - Pretending Brexit was a good idea. - Panicking about Labour not already having fixed the country within the first few months. - Complaining about Trans people existing. And anyone who deviates from this formula is ridiculed and driven off the forums. Posting random remarks without arguing the problem at hand is wittering. OP posts that a council leader said asylum seekers will get private healthcare. His concerns being the money being spent on it and the fact that the country doesn't have enough resources to take care of its citizens. If you believe that the source is false, you can point out why you believe is false. But there is a video of council leader saying that. If you believe that the money should be spent this way, you could argue where it's going to come from. Instead of making a reasoned argument, you come here and pass lame remarks about "daily mail" readers, people respond to you in kind and then pretend like you are the victim here being ridiculed." It's not happening. Immigrants aren't getting private healthcare in hotels. It is meaningless. The ONLY interesting point worth discussing is why is this being reported, what is the purpose of reporting this. How does this shape people's attitudes in the country. How does this effect how people vote. | |||
"Looking forward to another thread being derailed If you just ignore his wittering it's honestly the best thing Is every non-outraged-by-immigrants point "wittering"? I generally agree though, this section of for forum is a hotbed of: - Complaining about immigrants - Pretending Brexit was a good idea. - Panicking about Labour not already having fixed the country within the first few months. - Complaining about Trans people existing. And anyone who deviates from this formula is ridiculed and driven off the forums. Posting random remarks without arguing the problem at hand is wittering. OP posts that a council leader said asylum seekers will get private healthcare. His concerns being the money being spent on it and the fact that the country doesn't have enough resources to take care of its citizens. If you believe that the source is false, you can point out why you believe is false. But there is a video of council leader saying that. If you believe that the money should be spent this way, you could argue where it's going to come from. Instead of making a reasoned argument, you come here and pass lame remarks about "daily mail" readers, people respond to you in kind and then pretend like you are the victim here being ridiculed. It's not happening. Immigrants aren't getting private healthcare in hotels. It is meaningless. The ONLY interesting point worth discussing is why is this being reported, what is the purpose of reporting this. How does this shape people's attitudes in the country. How does this effect how people vote. " whether it is or isn't makes little difference private or nhs its still costs the uk taxpayer and im pretty certain if they are been housed in hotels then they will be medically looked after so makes no odds whos reporting it and why its the same outcome, more strain and costs on the nhs | |||
"Looking forward to another thread being derailed If you just ignore his wittering it's honestly the best thing Is every non-outraged-by-immigrants point "wittering"? I generally agree though, this section of for forum is a hotbed of: - Complaining about immigrants - Pretending Brexit was a good idea. - Panicking about Labour not already having fixed the country within the first few months. - Complaining about Trans people existing. And anyone who deviates from this formula is ridiculed and driven off the forums. Posting random remarks without arguing the problem at hand is wittering. OP posts that a council leader said asylum seekers will get private healthcare. His concerns being the money being spent on it and the fact that the country doesn't have enough resources to take care of its citizens. If you believe that the source is false, you can point out why you believe is false. But there is a video of council leader saying that. If you believe that the money should be spent this way, you could argue where it's going to come from. Instead of making a reasoned argument, you come here and pass lame remarks about "daily mail" readers, people respond to you in kind and then pretend like you are the victim here being ridiculed. It's not happening. Immigrants aren't getting private healthcare in hotels. It is meaningless. The ONLY interesting point worth discussing is why is this being reported, what is the purpose of reporting this. How does this shape people's attitudes in the country. How does this effect how people vote. " There is a video of a council leader saying that. Do you think that's a lie? I asked this question before and I didn't receive an answer. | |||
"Looking forward to another thread being derailed If you just ignore his wittering it's honestly the best thing Is every non-outraged-by-immigrants point "wittering"? I generally agree though, this section of for forum is a hotbed of: - Complaining about immigrants - Pretending Brexit was a good idea. - Panicking about Labour not already having fixed the country within the first few months. - Complaining about Trans people existing. And anyone who deviates from this formula is ridiculed and driven off the forums. Posting random remarks without arguing the problem at hand is wittering. OP posts that a council leader said asylum seekers will get private healthcare. His concerns being the money being spent on it and the fact that the country doesn't have enough resources to take care of its citizens. If you believe that the source is false, you can point out why you believe is false. But there is a video of council leader saying that. If you believe that the money should be spent this way, you could argue where it's going to come from. Instead of making a reasoned argument, you come here and pass lame remarks about "daily mail" readers, people respond to you in kind and then pretend like you are the victim here being ridiculed. It's not happening. Immigrants aren't getting private healthcare in hotels. It is meaningless. The ONLY interesting point worth discussing is why is this being reported, what is the purpose of reporting this. How does this shape people's attitudes in the country. How does this effect how people vote. There is a video of a council leader saying that. Do you think that's a lie? I asked this question before and I didn't receive an answer." council leaders dont lie do they??? Were he labour? | |||
"I've not read either publication, so only seen the bare bones of this on here. I'd imagine that the majority of its readers had voted for the governments' tactics of the previous 14 yours, that led to the volumes of people here, lack of resources to process them etc and their housing. Those actions have consequences, which includes those people being provided with medical services whilst here. No surprises! Governments are not magicians who create resources our of nothing. Given the struggle to find people and money for NHS, policing and other critical services for the country, where do you think the resources to process asylum seekers are going to come from?" You missed the point | |||
"Looking forward to another thread being derailed If you just ignore his wittering it's honestly the best thing Is every non-outraged-by-immigrants point "wittering"? I generally agree though, this section of for forum is a hotbed of: - Complaining about immigrants - Pretending Brexit was a good idea. - Panicking about Labour not already having fixed the country within the first few months. - Complaining about Trans people existing. And anyone who deviates from this formula is ridiculed and driven off the forums. Posting random remarks without arguing the problem at hand is wittering. OP posts that a council leader said asylum seekers will get private healthcare. His concerns being the money being spent on it and the fact that the country doesn't have enough resources to take care of its citizens. If you believe that the source is false, you can point out why you believe is false. But there is a video of council leader saying that. If you believe that the money should be spent this way, you could argue where it's going to come from. Instead of making a reasoned argument, you come here and pass lame remarks about "daily mail" readers, people respond to you in kind and then pretend like you are the victim here being ridiculed. It's not happening. Immigrants aren't getting private healthcare in hotels. It is meaningless. The ONLY interesting point worth discussing is why is this being reported, what is the purpose of reporting this. How does this shape people's attitudes in the country. How does this effect how people vote. whether it is or isn't makes little difference private or nhs its still costs the uk taxpayer and im pretty certain if they are been housed in hotels then they will be medically looked after so makes no odds whos reporting it and why its the same outcome, more strain and costs on the nhs " So it's working. | |||
"I've not read either publication, so only seen the bare bones of this on here. I'd imagine that the majority of its readers had voted for the governments' tactics of the previous 14 yours, that led to the volumes of people here, lack of resources to process them etc and their housing. Those actions have consequences, which includes those people being provided with medical services whilst here. No surprises! Governments are not magicians who create resources our of nothing. Given the struggle to find people and money for NHS, policing and other critical services for the country, where do you think the resources to process asylum seekers are going to come from? You missed the point " Which point? | |||
"Looking forward to another thread being derailed If you just ignore his wittering it's honestly the best thing Is every non-outraged-by-immigrants point "wittering"? I generally agree though, this section of for forum is a hotbed of: - Complaining about immigrants - Pretending Brexit was a good idea. - Panicking about Labour not already having fixed the country within the first few months. - Complaining about Trans people existing. And anyone who deviates from this formula is ridiculed and driven off the forums. Posting random remarks without arguing the problem at hand is wittering. OP posts that a council leader said asylum seekers will get private healthcare. His concerns being the money being spent on it and the fact that the country doesn't have enough resources to take care of its citizens. If you believe that the source is false, you can point out why you believe is false. But there is a video of council leader saying that. If you believe that the money should be spent this way, you could argue where it's going to come from. Instead of making a reasoned argument, you come here and pass lame remarks about "daily mail" readers, people respond to you in kind and then pretend like you are the victim here being ridiculed. It's not happening. Immigrants aren't getting private healthcare in hotels. It is meaningless. The ONLY interesting point worth discussing is why is this being reported, what is the purpose of reporting this. How does this shape people's attitudes in the country. How does this effect how people vote. whether it is or isn't makes little difference private or nhs its still costs the uk taxpayer and im pretty certain if they are been housed in hotels then they will be medically looked after so makes no odds whos reporting it and why its the same outcome, more strain and costs on the nhs " So because they are housed in hotels and those hotels and the companies managing these hotels are fleecing the government. Private healthcare has noted this and now are lining themselves up for a piece of the pie. But it is the immigrant who is at blame, you are told and you have been told because there really is no proof in your claim for private health care, the only thing here that is relevant is yet again the tax payer is being fleeced by the private sector yet again. | |||