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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield

Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

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By *mateur100Man 4 days ago

nr faversham


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !"

How many young customers are there for a high performance car? All seems daft to me

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By *ostindreamsMan 4 days ago

London

The worst part of it is that there is nothing connected to cars in the ad

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"The worst part of it is that there is nothing connected to cars in the ad"

Weird, no ! Does seem like an absolute mess.🤡

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

How many young customers are there for a high performance car? All seems daft to me"

Good point, I'm guessing the average Jag driver is over 40 at least.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 days ago

golden fields


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !"

Which variant of woke have they gone?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 days ago

golden fields


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

Which variant of woke have they gone?"

Ah I see. The GBnews variant (whatever that is).

They have two articles about this top issue on their page. Telling people what to think about Jaguars. Extreme woke from GBNews.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield

Interesting that in the US Bud Light have done a new advert with Shane Gillis after the disaster of their collaboration with Dylan Mulvaney.

The lesson of Go Woke, Go Broke is finally getting through!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 days ago

golden fields


"Interesting that in the US Bud Light have done a new advert with Shane Gillis after the disaster of their collaboration with Dylan Mulvaney.

The lesson of Go Woke, Go Broke is finally getting through! "

Bud light caved in to the woke telling them what to do.

Terrible tasting beer anyway.

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By *uffleskloofMan 4 days ago

Walsall

Apparently they are targeting younger people at the same time as doubling the price of their cars.

Not sure how many non-binary 25 year olds are out there who can afford to splash out £100k on an EV that will last a few years.

Their CEO and Head of Marketing both sound like DEI fanatics.

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By *uffleskloofMan 4 days ago

Walsall


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

Which variant of woke have they gone?

Ah I see. The GBnews variant (whatever that is).

They have two articles about this top issue on their page. Telling people what to think about Jaguars. Extreme woke from GBNews. "

Seems like the only people who watch GB News are leftists desperate to watch something that annoys them.

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By *va_NightingaleTV/TS 4 days ago

North Manchester


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

Which variant of woke have they gone?

Ah I see. The GBnews variant (whatever that is).

They have two articles about this top issue on their page. Telling people what to think about Jaguars. Extreme woke from GBNews.

Seems like the only people who watch GB News are leftists desperate to watch something that annoys them."

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 days ago

golden fields


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

Which variant of woke have they gone?

Ah I see. The GBnews variant (whatever that is).

They have two articles about this top issue on their page. Telling people what to think about Jaguars. Extreme woke from GBNews.

Seems like the only people who watch GB News are leftists desperate to watch something that annoys them."

Leftists are annoyed by TV ads for being woke, foreigners for comin' over 'ere, and trans people for existing?

Shocking revelation.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"Apparently they are targeting younger people at the same time as doubling the price of their cars.

Not sure how many non-binary 25 year olds are out there who can afford to splash out £100k on an EV that will last a few years.

Their CEO and Head of Marketing both sound like DEI fanatics."

Quite bizarre but a lot of big corporates have been taken over by these fruitcakes. Money will still talk in the long run.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

Which variant of woke have they gone?

Ah I see. The GBnews variant (whatever that is).

They have two articles about this top issue on their page. Telling people what to think about Jaguars. Extreme woke from GBNews.

Seems like the only people who watch GB News are leftists desperate to watch something that annoys them."

Jonny seems to be a loyal subscriber to GB news ! Never watched it myself.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 days ago

golden fields


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

Which variant of woke have they gone?

Ah I see. The GBnews variant (whatever that is).

They have two articles about this top issue on their page. Telling people what to think about Jaguars. Extreme woke from GBNews.

Seems like the only people who watch GB News are leftists desperate to watch something that annoys them.

Jonny seems to be a loyal subscriber to GB news ! Never watched it myself. "

Never watched it either. But whenever I Google the woke related panic that you post, it always leads back to the GBNews website.

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By *igNick1381Man 4 days ago

BRIDGEND


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

Which variant of woke have they gone?

Ah I see. The GBnews variant (whatever that is).

They have two articles about this top issue on their page. Telling people what to think about Jaguars. Extreme woke from GBNews.

Seems like the only people who watch GB News are leftists desperate to watch something that annoys them.

Jonny seems to be a loyal subscriber to GB news ! Never watched it myself. "

Always on about what drivel it is and always quoting it

Methinks the lady doth protest too much

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By *otMe66Man 4 days ago

Terra Firma

Jaguar MD Rawdon Glover, is doubling down it seems... he has defended the campaign, saying negative reactions stem from a blaze of intolerance.

If $$$$$'s start dropping off the Tata share price he might have a lot of time to consider that quote.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 days ago

golden fields


"Jaguar MD Rawdon Glover, is doubling down it seems... he has defended the campaign, saying negative reactions stem from a blaze of intolerance.

If $$$$$'s start dropping off the Tata share price he might have a lot of time to consider that quote. "

Is the average Jag driver a GBNews type?

If so, they have poorly judged this one.

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By *otMe66Man 4 days ago

Terra Firma


"Jaguar MD Rawdon Glover, is doubling down it seems... he has defended the campaign, saying negative reactions stem from a blaze of intolerance.

If $$$$$'s start dropping off the Tata share price he might have a lot of time to consider that quote.

Is the average Jag driver a GBNews type?

If so, they have poorly judged this one."

Jaguar is a global brand with global reach in all significant markets, GB News is not the only media outlet reporting on this. why are you so concerned with what GB News reports?

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"Jaguar MD Rawdon Glover, is doubling down it seems... he has defended the campaign, saying negative reactions stem from a blaze of intolerance.

If $$$$$'s start dropping off the Tata share price he might have a lot of time to consider that quote.

Is the average Jag driver a GBNews type?

If so, they have poorly judged this one.

Jaguar is a global brand with global reach in all significant markets, GB News is not the only media outlet reporting on this. why are you so concerned with what GB News reports? "

I understand the big money is in the luxury car market in China, but do they think this type of ad will play well there ??

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan 4 days ago

nearby

When Jeremy Clarkson puts a twenty year old battered Hi Lux in the severn estuary at high tide, and it starts first time afterwards, have to wonder about the new marketing for JLR

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield

Jaguar have said they expect to lose 85% of their existing customers. Certainly an original approach to sales.🤣

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By *ostindreamsMan 4 days ago

London

I think they are going for the "any publicity is good publicity" angle. Unfortunately, for a brand like Jaguar that sells highly priced goods purely based on brand value, this might well backfire.

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By *oo hotCouple 4 days ago

North West


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !"

I want to know why people who use the word "woke" as a derogatory term don't wonder how or why its meaning changed.

Someone or some group of people decided that "being aware of social injustices, especially racial injustice" was a bad thing and so chose to make the word that describes such awareness mean something else.

I am not even sure anyone knows what woke means anymore other than just derogatory slang to hurl at people who otherwise are caring, thoughtful and understanding (or weak, pathetic imbeciles depending on which lens you look through).

As for the Jaguar advert, it's just shit. Plain and simple.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"I think they are going for the "any publicity is good publicity" angle. Unfortunately, for a brand like Jaguar that sells highly priced goods purely based on brand value, this might well backfire."

Yes I agree but it's super high risk. I guess it will ultimately depend on the quality and design of the cars. If they are fantastic they will sell and the ad will be forgotten, if they stink then everyone will connect them to the marketing.

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By *lfasoCouple 4 days ago

South East


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

Which variant of woke have they gone?

Ah I see. The GBnews variant (whatever that is).

They have two articles about this top issue on their page. Telling people what to think about Jaguars. Extreme woke from GBNews. "

Rather than just answering your own question, again, try reading a little more widely. The Guardian for example:

Hats off to Jaguar’s ‘inclusive’ new branding: now people of all backgrounds won’t buy its cars

Marina Hyde

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

I want to know why people who use the word "woke" as a derogatory term don't wonder how or why its meaning changed.

Someone or some group of people decided that "being aware of social injustices, especially racial injustice" was a bad thing and so chose to make the word that describes such awareness mean something else.

"

Woke has never just meant that though. It also means supporting a range of radical left wing policies to supposedly fight injustice, although there is little evidence that they actually achieve this.

That's why it has become a term of ridicule, for example when a company like Jaguar which is totally dominated by white male executives puts a black woman at the front of its advertising. This has nothing to do with racial injustice, its a performative gesture.

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By *uckurcumMan 4 days ago

Bishop Auckland

Brands with heritage don't just dump their branding in this manner ...

Jaguar have stuck two fingers up at their customer base,in search of nothing ...the logo and script is a disaster and looks like something from a cheap clothing or cosmetic brand ..

Do they really think that 100k.plus EV"s are the way forward when major companies are struggling (see Lotus etc),they justify it by saying it's geared towards the American market,did someone not tell them that the assorted democrats they used in the advertising are history now !

An utter PR shambles and the car will help Jaguar become a trim level for Range Rover.

Other manufacturers must be laughing .

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"Brands with heritage don't just dump their branding in this manner ...

Jaguar have stuck two fingers up at their customer base,in search of nothing ...the logo and script is a disaster and looks like something from a cheap clothing or cosmetic brand ..

Do they really think that 100k.plus EV"s are the way forward when major companies are struggling (see Lotus etc),they justify it by saying it's geared towards the American market,did someone not tell them that the assorted democrats they used in the advertising are history now !

An utter PR shambles and the car will help Jaguar become a trim level for Range Rover.

Other manufacturers must be laughing ."

Really good points. Without the value of its heritage, what exactly is Jaguar as a brand ? All the big brands have upmarket EV models so there is nothing new or original about that strategy. Unless the new cars are sensational the company will be in serious trouble I think.

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By *ostindreamsMan 4 days ago

London


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

Which variant of woke have they gone?

Ah I see. The GBnews variant (whatever that is).

They have two articles about this top issue on their page. Telling people what to think about Jaguars. Extreme woke from GBNews.

Rather than just answering your own question, again, try reading a little more widely. The Guardian for example:

Hats off to Jaguar’s ‘inclusive’ new branding: now people of all backgrounds won’t buy its cars

Marina Hyde"

Imagine how woke it must be if even the Guardian doesn't like it

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By *ellhungvweMan 4 days ago

Cheltenham

As a marketing exercise I would say it was working. Everyone is talking about it. That’s the aim.

Jaguar has been an irrelevance for years and suddenly it has found a way to get noticed.

Their old customer base wasn’t working for them so why not roll the dice? Keeping the same old staid marketing and brand would only have carried on leading to more stagnation.

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By *abioMan 4 days ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !"

I love to see this”young person” try to get insurance on their beloved jag….

I do sometimes wonder if people complaining have nothing better to actually complain about…

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"As a marketing exercise I would say it was working. Everyone is talking about it. That’s the aim.

Jaguar has been an irrelevance for years and suddenly it has found a way to get noticed.

Their old customer base wasn’t working for them so why not roll the dice? Keeping the same old staid marketing and brand would only have carried on leading to more stagnation."

Isn't the first principle of marketing to know who you are aiming at ? Making a lot of noise, and telling your existing customers to take a hike, with no defined new target audience doesn't seem like much of a strategy to me.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

I love to see this”young person” try to get insurance on their beloved jag….

I do sometimes wonder if people complaining have nothing better to actually complain about…

"

Jaguar is an Iconic British brand which still employs many people in the UK. Apologies for caring about such things.

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By *ellhungvweMan 4 days ago

Cheltenham


"As a marketing exercise I would say it was working. Everyone is talking about it. That’s the aim.

Jaguar has been an irrelevance for years and suddenly it has found a way to get noticed.

Their old customer base wasn’t working for them so why not roll the dice? Keeping the same old staid marketing and brand would only have carried on leading to more stagnation.

Isn't the first principle of marketing to know who you are aiming at ? Making a lot of noise, and telling your existing customers to take a hike, with no defined new target audience doesn't seem like much of a strategy to me."

When your existing client base isn’t buying then you have to go looking for a new one. Making a lot of noise generally helps when you are drowning - someone might notice.

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By *ortyairCouple 4 days ago

Wallasey

Shouldn't you just concentrate on making better cars at an attractive price? Just a thought... Mrs x

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By *ools and the brainCouple 4 days ago

couple, us we him her.

Having not seen the ad I can't comment.

But advertising is extremely patronising these days pandering to very small sections of society, living in fear of upsetting the vocal militants.

And a big fuck off to the majority of their customer bases.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man 4 days ago

BRIDPORT


"As a marketing exercise I would say it was working. Everyone is talking about it. That’s the aim.

Jaguar has been an irrelevance for years and suddenly it has found a way to get noticed.

Their old customer base wasn’t working for them so why not roll the dice? Keeping the same old staid marketing and brand would only have carried on leading to more stagnation.

Isn't the first principle of marketing to know who you are aiming at ? Making a lot of noise, and telling your existing customers to take a hike, with no defined new target audience doesn't seem like much of a strategy to me.

When your existing client base isn’t buying then you have to go looking for a new one. Making a lot of noise generally helps when you are drowning - someone might notice."

When your existing client base isn’t buying then you have to question the product you are selling.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"As a marketing exercise I would say it was working. Everyone is talking about it. That’s the aim.

Jaguar has been an irrelevance for years and suddenly it has found a way to get noticed.

Their old customer base wasn’t working for them so why not roll the dice? Keeping the same old staid marketing and brand would only have carried on leading to more stagnation.

Isn't the first principle of marketing to know who you are aiming at ? Making a lot of noise, and telling your existing customers to take a hike, with no defined new target audience doesn't seem like much of a strategy to me.

When your existing client base isn’t buying then you have to go looking for a new one. Making a lot of noise generally helps when you are drowning - someone might notice."

Heh ? An existing 'client base' is by definition the people who are buying, and since when was attracting new customers incompatible with keeping existing ones. Also you don't address the question of who the new 'client base' is - as said, this is the first principle of marketing and millions is spent on research to establish this.

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By *nalleesaMan 4 days ago

Bangor


"Interesting that in the US Bud Light have done a new advert with Shane Gillis after the disaster of their collaboration with Dylan Mulvaney.

The lesson of Go Woke, Go Broke is finally getting through!

Bud light caved in to the woke telling them what to do.

Terrible tasting beer anyway."

Piss tastes better

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"Shouldn't you just concentrate on making better cars at an attractive price? Just a thought... Mrs x"

Apparently the price is going up substantially.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"Having not seen the ad I can't comment.

But advertising is extremely patronising these days pandering to very small sections of society, living in fear of upsetting the vocal militants.

And a big fuck off to the majority of their customer bases."

I think you've hit on a key point. Jaguar don't actually seem to like their existing customers.

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By *otMe66Man 4 days ago

Terra Firma


"Having not seen the ad I can't comment.

But advertising is extremely patronising these days pandering to very small sections of society, living in fear of upsetting the vocal militants.

And a big fuck off to the majority of their customer bases.

I think you've hit on a key point. Jaguar don't actually seem to like their existing customers."

Let's hope they are launching a new range of cars that are vibrant, modern and appeal to the new audience they are trying to attract.

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By *2000ManMan 4 days ago

Worthing

They lost me when stopped making manual cars. Now just ev. This ad will lose more than you can imagine.

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By *ostindreamsMan 4 days ago

London


"As a marketing exercise I would say it was working. Everyone is talking about it. That’s the aim.

Jaguar has been an irrelevance for years and suddenly it has found a way to get noticed.

Their old customer base wasn’t working for them so why not roll the dice? Keeping the same old staid marketing and brand would only have carried on leading to more stagnation.

Isn't the first principle of marketing to know who you are aiming at ? Making a lot of noise, and telling your existing customers to take a hike, with no defined new target audience doesn't seem like much of a strategy to me.

When your existing client base isn’t buying then you have to go looking for a new one. Making a lot of noise generally helps when you are drowning - someone might notice."

That's a huge "might". Most people who are so militant and noisy in social media about the woke issues aren't the ones who you would expect to buy a Jaguar. Also, these people are really in the minority. Corporates repeatedly make the mistake of taking notice of a small but loud group of people and assuming they represent the majority.

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By *AJMLKTV/TS 4 days ago

Burley

I lease my main use cars, and I've currently got an F-Pace SVR. It's not bad, but if when I come to renew next year Jaguar have nothing to offer but EV's, they've lost my custom. I don't give a crap about what weird adverts they put out, but the vehicle has to be right for me. I tried an EV - it was a heap of shit. Never again.

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By *uffleskloofMan 4 days ago

Walsall


"I lease my main use cars, and I've currently got an F-Pace SVR. It's not bad, but if when I come to renew next year Jaguar have nothing to offer but EV's, they've lost my custom. I don't give a crap about what weird adverts they put out, but the vehicle has to be right for me. I tried an EV - it was a heap of shit. Never again."

I used to see a fair few JLR company cars a couple of years back but people just had loads of issues with them. Haven’t seen any in the car park for a couple of years.

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By *ellhungvweMan 4 days ago

Cheltenham


"As a marketing exercise I would say it was working. Everyone is talking about it. That’s the aim.

Jaguar has been an irrelevance for years and suddenly it has found a way to get noticed.

Their old customer base wasn’t working for them so why not roll the dice? Keeping the same old staid marketing and brand would only have carried on leading to more stagnation.

Isn't the first principle of marketing to know who you are aiming at ? Making a lot of noise, and telling your existing customers to take a hike, with no defined new target audience doesn't seem like much of a strategy to me.

When your existing client base isn’t buying then you have to go looking for a new one. Making a lot of noise generally helps when you are drowning - someone might notice.

When your existing client base isn’t buying then you have to question the product you are selling. "

As I understand it they are launching a whole new range of electric only vehicles so it would appear the old stuff is being junked anyway.

I am not defending Jaguar at all - apart from the e-type I hate the cars - but you can’t deny it has got cut through. _Everyone_ is going to at least look at the new cars when they get launched next month if only to see what the fuss was about. That is marketing gold isn’t it?

Whether the product is any good - I have no idea.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield

The top end of the electric car market seems very full already with Tesla, BMW, Porsche, etc all involved. Seems to make a mockery of Jaguar's claim to be doing something original or creative, and entering a crowded market when your competitors are years ahead of you is a massive challenge.

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By *ountry cowboyMan 4 days ago

Kinross


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

Which variant of woke have they gone?

Ah I see. The GBnews variant (whatever that is).

They have two articles about this top issue on their page. Telling people what to think about Jaguars. Extreme woke from GBNews.

Seems like the only people who watch GB News are leftists desperate to watch something that annoys them.

Leftists are annoyed by TV ads for being woke, foreigners for comin' over 'ere, and trans people for existing?

Shocking revelation. "

🤣🤣🤣 well for the first time ever, I agree with the lefts...#woke#foreingers#trans

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By *ountry cowboyMan 4 days ago

Kinross


"I lease my main use cars, and I've currently got an F-Pace SVR. It's not bad, but if when I come to renew next year Jaguar have nothing to offer but EV's, they've lost my custom. I don't give a crap about what weird adverts they put out, but the vehicle has to be right for me. I tried an EV - it was a heap of shit. Never again."

If you want to be in Front, and drive where others simply cannot reach... get a Toyota Hilux invincible-x

Don't expect us to tow electric vehicles though as it won't happen

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By *ornucopiaMan 4 days ago

Bexley


"

...

Jaguar is an Iconic British brand which still employs many people in the UK. Apologies for caring about such things."

Shame that they stopped making proper right hand drive cars quite a long time ago.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 days ago

golden fields


"Jaguar MD Rawdon Glover, is doubling down it seems... he has defended the campaign, saying negative reactions stem from a blaze of intolerance.

If $$$$$'s start dropping off the Tata share price he might have a lot of time to consider that quote.

Is the average Jag driver a GBNews type?

If so, they have poorly judged this one.

Jaguar is a global brand with global reach in all significant markets, GB News is not the only media outlet reporting on this. why are you so concerned with what GB News reports? "

They seem to be the main outlet, and as of this morning have two stories on it.

If it's a global advertising campaign, then they probably don't need to worry about the GBnews types having their standard woke meltdowns.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 days ago

golden fields


"Having not seen the ad I can't comment.

But advertising is extremely patronising these days pandering to very small sections of society, living in fear of upsetting the vocal militants.

And a big fuck off to the majority of their customer bases."

Looks like Jaguar have upset the vocal militants with this one.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 days ago

golden fields


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !

Which variant of woke have they gone?

Ah I see. The GBnews variant (whatever that is).

They have two articles about this top issue on their page. Telling people what to think about Jaguars. Extreme woke from GBNews.

Rather than just answering your own question, again, try reading a little more widely. The Guardian for example:

Hats off to Jaguar’s ‘inclusive’ new branding: now people of all backgrounds won’t buy its cars

Marina Hyde"

As long as people are outraged by the woke. Doesn't matter where they're reading it from.

The stereotype of a guardian reader isn't someone having a meltdown about a woke advert. The stereotype of a GBNews reader is. Plus they have two whole stories on this, so it makes a much easier example.

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By *uffleskloofMan 4 days ago

Walsall

I am doubtful JLR will be running this advert in Saudi, the UAE etc, places where people might actually be able to afford their cars.

I don’t think the hectoring extends that far.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"I am doubtful JLR will be running this advert in Saudi, the UAE etc, places where people might actually be able to afford their cars.

I don’t think the hectoring extends that far."

Or China, or India.

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By *mateur100Man 4 days ago

nr faversham

Can I expect to be told that my pronunciation of Jaguar has been wrong for all these years?

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By *ronisMan 4 days ago

Edinburgh


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !"

They're fuked.

Everything woke goes to shit.

Go broke. Wgaf.

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By *ronisMan 4 days ago

Edinburgh


"The worst part of it is that there is nothing connected to cars in the ad"

Of course not. That would be common sense.

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By *ools and the brainCouple 4 days ago

couple, us we him her.


"Can I expect to be told that my pronunciation of Jaguar has been wrong for all these years? "

Also I'm guessing it can't be referred to as a jaguar as that implies it's binary.

Surely Jaguar's or jagthem?

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By *ronisMan 4 days ago

Edinburgh

Who cares anyway. It for some electric peesh.

Gimme a proper petrol, gas guzzling 4.6 litre.

Listen to it purr.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 4 days ago

Springfield


"Jaguar MD Rawdon Glover, is doubling down it seems... he has defended the campaign, saying negative reactions stem from a blaze of intolerance.

If $$$$$'s start dropping off the Tata share price he might have a lot of time to consider that quote. "

Raw Dong Lover

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By *aribbean King 1985Man 4 days ago

South West London

These lefty idealogical lunatics really need to stop with this wokery garbage

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By *oufouCouple 4 days ago

Somerset


"Have you seen the new Jaguar advert and branding? Looks like an attempt to go ultra woke in search of youngest customers.

Surely this will only lead to disaster for the famous brand !"

Given Jaguar’s current global market share is less than 1%, they don’t have much to loose.

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By (user no longer on site) 4 days ago

Strangely it’s one of the most unoriginal adverts I’ve seen.They’re acting as if a conservative culture that was itself a parody is wandering around

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 days ago

golden fields


"These lefty idealogical lunatics really need to stop with this wokery garbage "

Why?

Also, I thought most of the people you identified as woke were right wingers. Farage, Trump, Musk, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson etc.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 4 days ago

golden fields


"Strangely it’s one of the most unoriginal adverts I’ve seen.They’re acting as if a conservative culture that was itself a parody is wandering around "

I watched the advert.

I can't see what's woke about it, under any of the vast myriad of definitions people have claimed on here. And certainly not the actual dictionary definition.

Why are the GBNews crew so outraged by this bland advert?

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By *aribbean King 1985Man 3 days ago

South West London


"These lefty idealogical lunatics really need to stop with this wokery garbage

Why?

Also, I thought most of the people you identified as woke were right wingers. Farage, Trump, Musk, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson etc."

Exactly, you do not me

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 3 days ago

golden fields


"These lefty idealogical lunatics really need to stop with this wokery garbage

Why?

Also, I thought most of the people you identified as woke were right wingers. Farage, Trump, Musk, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson etc. Exactly, you do not me"

I'm not a woke-worrier, & I haven't made up my own definition. For the purpose of this chat we're going with your definition of woke, which mainly describes right wingers.

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By *idnight RamblerMan 3 days ago

Pershore

If Jaguar things this ad promotes their brand and image fair enough. But judging from general reaction the campaign has been a PR disaster. I can see their CEO collecting his P45 in the coming months.

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By *roadShoulderzMan 3 days ago

Croydon


"As a marketing exercise I would say it was working. Everyone is talking about it. That’s the aim.

Jaguar has been an irrelevance for years and suddenly it has found a way to get noticed.

Their old customer base wasn’t working for them so why not roll the dice? Keeping the same old staid marketing and brand would only have carried on leading to more stagnation.

Isn't the first principle of marketing to know who you are aiming at ? Making a lot of noise, and telling your existing customers to take a hike, with no defined new target audience doesn't seem like much of a strategy to me.

When your existing client base isn’t buying then you have to go looking for a new one. Making a lot of noise generally helps when you are drowning - someone might notice.

When your existing client base isn’t buying then you have to question the product you are selling. "

The same issues apply to many organisations. The Conservative party is a perfect example. Adapt or die. Hence the choice of their new leader?

I owned Jaguars through the 80s and 90s. Great cars then

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By *aribbean King 1985Man 3 days ago

South West London


"These lefty idealogical lunatics really need to stop with this wokery garbage

Why?

Also, I thought most of the people you identified as woke were right wingers. Farage, Trump, Musk, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson etc. Exactly, you do not me

I'm not a woke-worrier, & I haven't made up my own definition. For the purpose of this chat we're going with your definition of woke, which mainly describes right wingers. "

No left wingers are mostly woke to me, it's you that's saying right wingers are, please don't twist what I'm saying

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man 3 days ago

Springfield


"As a marketing exercise I would say it was working. Everyone is talking about it. That’s the aim.

Jaguar has been an irrelevance for years and suddenly it has found a way to get noticed.

Their old customer base wasn’t working for them so why not roll the dice? Keeping the same old staid marketing and brand would only have carried on leading to more stagnation.

Isn't the first principle of marketing to know who you are aiming at ? Making a lot of noise, and telling your existing customers to take a hike, with no defined new target audience doesn't seem like much of a strategy to me.

When your existing client base isn’t buying then you have to go looking for a new one. Making a lot of noise generally helps when you are drowning - someone might notice.

When your existing client base isn’t buying then you have to question the product you are selling.

The same issues apply to many organisations. The Conservative party is a perfect example. Adapt or die. Hence the choice of their new leader?

I owned Jaguars through the 80s and 90s. Great cars then"

Their design used to be fantastic, seems to have taken a dip in the 21st century.

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By *va_NightingaleTV/TS 3 days ago

North Manchester


"These lefty idealogical lunatics really need to stop with this wokery garbage

Why?

Also, I thought most of the people you identified as woke were right wingers. Farage, Trump, Musk, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson etc. Exactly, you do not me

I'm not a woke-worrier, & I haven't made up my own definition. For the purpose of this chat we're going with your definition of woke, which mainly describes right wingers. No left wingers are mostly woke to me, it's you that's saying right wingers are, please don't twist what I'm saying "

************************************

All this so-called 'woke' fad stinks of left wing

stupidity.

Anyone with the slightest political perception can see it for what it really is.

The sinister aspect of this crazy concept is, (as I see it), just how far will it go....? Where would it end....?

What do the 'adherents' of this insanity want...?

'Woke', a now rarely used verb (generally) meaning to... 'awake from sleep'.

Sums up the needs of these people, as far as I am concerned.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 3 days ago

golden fields


"These lefty idealogical lunatics really need to stop with this wokery garbage

Why?

Also, I thought most of the people you identified as woke were right wingers. Farage, Trump, Musk, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson etc. Exactly, you do not me

I'm not a woke-worrier, & I haven't made up my own definition. For the purpose of this chat we're going with your definition of woke, which mainly describes right wingers. No left wingers are mostly woke to me, it's you that's saying right wingers are, please don't twist what I'm saying "

I'm not twisting anything, you said that to you, woke means being told what to think and do. It's mostly right-wingers doing this.

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By *anifestoMan 3 days ago

Ferns

Are they still a thing?

Their brand has been lost for so long positioned between Audi, Mercedes, BMW, etc. Tata had to do something radical to set it apart and considering the air time its received from all the gammon on social media its done that.

The rebrand also makes the mark more friendly for selling luxury cars on line - by 2030 (ish) you'll be ordering cars online and the dealerships will be service centres only.

I'm not offended by the logo. The worst thing is the uppercase G in the lowercase string.

Would it convince me to buy a Jag? No. Still overpriced and underwhelming

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