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News outlets confirming that UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles have been launched into Russia, the day after US Atacms were fired.
Reports of a command HQ used by Russia and North Korea has been destroyed, and an ammunition depot.
This is hotting up for Putin. What next ?
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By *otMe66Man 7 weeks ago
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Putin knows come January, there is a strong chance US aid to Zelenskyy will be cut, and the terms for a ceasefire will shift in his favour. That’s why I think he’s making a big push now to grab as much land as possible, so he can hold onto it later. It explains why we’re seeing such intense fighting at a time of year when both militaries would normally avoid getting bogged down in entrenched battles |
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If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them"
It's quite easy to pick up all the bits of exploded missile and do some jigsaw work to figure out what it was before it was rapidly disassembled. If we hadn't told the Russians, they would already know by now. |
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By *otMe66Man 7 weeks ago
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war "
To make Putin's generals think twice. They now need to consider areas of up to 200 miles inside the Russian border as targets, that has not been the case until now.
The Ukrainians will hope that this move will prevent the push forward from the the Russians, preventing more land loss. |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them
It's quite easy to pick up all the bits of exploded missile and do some jigsaw work to figure out what it was before it was rapidly disassembled. If we hadn't told the Russians, they would already know by now."
Then revert to what governments do best and lie |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war "
With the exception of intelligence and western special forces operating with Ukraine (uk reported to have sent the most), all the weapons systems made available have been part of publicly announced support packages. Different opinions on the announcements, mine is that UK announcement has shown solidarity with USA (and France I believe is allowing use of scalp). This could all change very quickly when Trump is inaugurated. |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it...
To demonstrate that he is bluffing and set a precedent (or lack thereof). It's an intentional statement."
Doesn't this make us fair game for a attack on Uk soil, Potentially by a third party supplied the Russians ? |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it...
To demonstrate that he is bluffing and set a precedent (or lack thereof). It's an intentional statement.
Doesn't this make us fair game for a attack on Uk soil, Potentially by a third party supplied the Russians ? "
its no different |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it...
To demonstrate that he is bluffing and set a precedent (or lack thereof). It's an intentional statement.
Doesn't this make us fair game for an attack on Uk soil, Potentially by a third party supplied the Russians ? "
Putin is in a load of trouble, 40% of state spending is on this war. Relying on foreign (NK) troops and convicts.
I don’t think Ukraine is in any better shape, save for the potentially enormous economic backing from its allies |
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By *ermbiMan 7 weeks ago
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war "
Easy for you to say when ur not living in the vicinity of the front line |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war
Easy for you to say when ur not living in the vicinity of the front line"
yet, if we keep suppling arms and sticking our noses in |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war "
So I guess you would be happy for Putin to make gains. And next time I guess make more gains, like crimia was not enough "And The Next Time". How much for you would be to much.. |
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By *oo hotCouple 7 weeks ago
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war "
It’s easy to identify components, even after an explosive incident. As for an endless war, Ukraine giving up land now wouldn’t mean that Russia wouldn’t come back again when it has restocked its military capability. Putin has aid that Ukraine isn’t a real country and he has said that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy of Russian history in the 20th Century (note that approximately 20 million Russians died in WW2 - in the 20th Century).
Russian imperialism will not stop at Ukraine, Moldova would be next and Latvia and Lithuania not long after that. We cannot think that Putin and the Russian elite can be negotiated with - they can’t. They imprison and murder their own people, they don’t share our values. |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war
It’s easy to identify components, even after an explosive incident. As for an endless war, Ukraine giving up land now wouldn’t mean that Russia wouldn’t come back again when it has restocked its military capability. Putin has aid that Ukraine isn’t a real country and he has said that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy of Russian history in the 20th Century (note that approximately 20 million Russians died in WW2 - in the 20th Century).
Russian imperialism will not stop at Ukraine, Moldova would be next and Latvia and Lithuania not long after that. We cannot think that Putin and the Russian elite can be negotiated with - they can’t. They imprison and murder their own people, they don’t share our values."
bit like if there's a fight in another school the other side of town we best go stick up for the one with the best pokemon cards, because if not the other might fight his way 15 miles accros town fight the whole of 4 other schools to take ours off us? But if we send some pikachus over itl all stop? 🤣Absolute nonsense |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it...
To demonstrate that he is bluffing and set a precedent (or lack thereof). It's an intentional statement.
Doesn't this make us fair game for a attack on Uk soil, Potentially by a third party supplied the Russians ? "
No more than Russia is a target for enemies of countries that they back with military hardware.
And only if Russia is willing to engage (which, were all betting, they aren't). |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war
It’s easy to identify components, even after an explosive incident. As for an endless war, Ukraine giving up land now wouldn’t mean that Russia wouldn’t come back again when it has restocked its military capability. Putin has aid that Ukraine isn’t a real country and he has said that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy of Russian history in the 20th Century (note that approximately 20 million Russians died in WW2 - in the 20th Century).
Russian imperialism will not stop at Ukraine, Moldova would be next and Latvia and Lithuania not long after that. We cannot think that Putin and the Russian elite can be negotiated with - they can’t. They imprison and murder their own people, they don’t share our values.bit like if there's a fight in another school the other side of town we best go stick up for the one with the best pokemon cards, because if not the other might fight his way 15 miles accros town fight the whole of 4 other schools to take ours off us? But if we send some pikachus over itl all stop? 🤣Absolute nonsense "
...do you think putin will stop at taking over ukraine? |
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"It’s not hitting up for Putin it’s cooling down
We shall see an end to the war soon.Russia and China are having a major falling out apparently
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In the film Last Man On Earth with Vincent Price, predicted Russia and China have a war and result is the end of mankind.
The film was later Omega Man and the I am Legend. |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war
It’s easy to identify components, even after an explosive incident. As for an endless war, Ukraine giving up land now wouldn’t mean that Russia wouldn’t come back again when it has restocked its military capability. Putin has aid that Ukraine isn’t a real country and he has said that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy of Russian history in the 20th Century (note that approximately 20 million Russians died in WW2 - in the 20th Century).
Russian imperialism will not stop at Ukraine, Moldova would be next and Latvia and Lithuania not long after that. We cannot think that Putin and the Russian elite can be negotiated with - they can’t. They imprison and murder their own people, they don’t share our values.bit like if there's a fight in another school the other side of town we best go stick up for the one with the best pokemon cards, because if not the other might fight his way 15 miles accros town fight the whole of 4 other schools to take ours off us? But if we send some pikachus over itl all stop? 🤣Absolute nonsense ...do you think putin will stop at taking over ukraine?"
no idea what were the trigger for him trying? |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war
It’s easy to identify components, even after an explosive incident. As for an endless war, Ukraine giving up land now wouldn’t mean that Russia wouldn’t come back again when it has restocked its military capability. Putin has aid that Ukraine isn’t a real country and he has said that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy of Russian history in the 20th Century (note that approximately 20 million Russians died in WW2 - in the 20th Century).
Russian imperialism will not stop at Ukraine, Moldova would be next and Latvia and Lithuania not long after that. We cannot think that Putin and the Russian elite can be negotiated with - they can’t. They imprison and murder their own people, they don’t share our values.bit like if there's a fight in another school the other side of town we best go stick up for the one with the best pokemon cards, because if not the other might fight his way 15 miles accros town fight the whole of 4 other schools to take ours off us? But if we send some pikachus over itl all stop? 🤣Absolute nonsense ...do you think putin will stop at taking over ukraine?no idea what were the trigger for him trying? "
...land grab...all the other reasons trotted out by his fanboys..are rubbish |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war
It’s easy to identify components, even after an explosive incident. As for an endless war, Ukraine giving up land now wouldn’t mean that Russia wouldn’t come back again when it has restocked its military capability. Putin has aid that Ukraine isn’t a real country and he has said that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy of Russian history in the 20th Century (note that approximately 20 million Russians died in WW2 - in the 20th Century).
Russian imperialism will not stop at Ukraine, Moldova would be next and Latvia and Lithuania not long after that. We cannot think that Putin and the Russian elite can be negotiated with - they can’t. They imprison and murder their own people, they don’t share our values.bit like if there's a fight in another school the other side of town we best go stick up for the one with the best pokemon cards, because if not the other might fight his way 15 miles accros town fight the whole of 4 other schools to take ours off us? But if we send some pikachus over itl all stop? 🤣Absolute nonsense ...do you think putin will stop at taking over ukraine?no idea what were the trigger for him trying? ...land grab...all the other reasons trotted out by his fanboys..are rubbish "
Agreed, a land grab, no more, no less. The bravery and resolve of Ukraine has been inspirational. Let's hope the West doesn't throw them under a bus in 2025. |
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"News outlets confirming that UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles have been launched into Russia, the day after US Atacms were fired.
Reports of a command HQ used by Russia and North Korea has been destroyed, and an ammunition depot.
This is hotting up for Putin. What next ?
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what next? now they have used uk and us missiles inside russia i wouldnt be at all surprised if in the next few days we will be seeing the biggest missile and air attack kiev has seen since the start of the war |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war
It’s easy to identify components, even after an explosive incident. As for an endless war, Ukraine giving up land now wouldn’t mean that Russia wouldn’t come back again when it has restocked its military capability. Putin has aid that Ukraine isn’t a real country and he has said that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy of Russian history in the 20th Century (note that approximately 20 million Russians died in WW2 - in the 20th Century).
Russian imperialism will not stop at Ukraine, Moldova would be next and Latvia and Lithuania not long after that. We cannot think that Putin and the Russian elite can be negotiated with - they can’t. They imprison and murder their own people, they don’t share our values.bit like if there's a fight in another school the other side of town we best go stick up for the one with the best pokemon cards, because if not the other might fight his way 15 miles accros town fight the whole of 4 other schools to take ours off us? But if we send some pikachus over itl all stop? 🤣Absolute nonsense ...do you think putin will stop at taking over ukraine?no idea what were the trigger for him trying? ...land grab...all the other reasons trotted out by his fanboys..are rubbish
Agreed, a land grab, no more, no less. The bravery and resolve of Ukraine has been inspirational. Let's hope the West doesn't throw them under a bus in 2025."
....you mean trump..?
Yeah he probably will, let's hope the other western powers stand firm. |
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"News outlets confirming that UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles have been launched into Russia, the day after US Atacms were fired.
Reports of a command HQ used by Russia and North Korea has been destroyed, and an ammunition depot.
This is hotting up for Putin. What next ?
what next? now they have used uk and us missiles inside russia i wouldnt be at all surprised if in the next few days we will be seeing the biggest missile and air attack kiev has seen since the start of the war"
...the French have given permission to use their long range missiles, the British ones hit a bunker containing Russian and North Korean officers..Great news for Ukraine |
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"News outlets confirming that UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles have been launched into Russia, the day after US Atacms were fired.
Reports of a command HQ used by Russia and North Korea has been destroyed, and an ammunition depot.
This is hotting up for Putin. What next ?
what next? now they have used uk and us missiles inside russia i wouldnt be at all surprised if in the next few days we will be seeing the biggest missile and air attack kiev has seen since the start of the war...the French have given permission to use their long range missiles, the British ones hit a bunker containing Russian and North Korean officers..Great news for Ukraine "
whats that got to do with the op? He was asking what happens next, i posted what i think will happen next you seem to just be cheer leading for ukraine why not post what you think will happen next or hasnt the idiot box in the corner of your room told you what will happen next? |
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"News outlets confirming that UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles have been launched into Russia, the day after US Atacms were fired.
Reports of a command HQ used by Russia and North Korea has been destroyed, and an ammunition depot.
This is hotting up for Putin. What next ?
what next? now they have used uk and us missiles inside russia i wouldnt be at all surprised if in the next few days we will be seeing the biggest missile and air attack kiev has seen since the start of the war...the French have given permission to use their long range missiles, the British ones hit a bunker containing Russian and North Korean officers..Great news for Ukraine whats that got to do with the op? He was asking what happens next, i posted what i think will happen next you seem to just be cheer leading for ukraine why not post what you think will happen next or hasnt the idiot box in the corner of your room told you what will happen next? "
...and where do you get your news...Facebook..?
Yes I am cheerleading for Ukraine...they're defending their country against an murderous dictator who invaded them..who are you siding with.. ? |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war
It’s easy to identify components, even after an explosive incident. As for an endless war, Ukraine giving up land now wouldn’t mean that Russia wouldn’t come back again when it has restocked its military capability. Putin has aid that Ukraine isn’t a real country and he has said that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy of Russian history in the 20th Century (note that approximately 20 million Russians died in WW2 - in the 20th Century).
Russian imperialism will not stop at Ukraine, Moldova would be next and Latvia and Lithuania not long after that. We cannot think that Putin and the Russian elite can be negotiated with - they can’t. They imprison and murder their own people, they don’t share our values.bit like if there's a fight in another school the other side of town we best go stick up for the one with the best pokemon cards, because if not the other might fight his way 15 miles accros town fight the whole of 4 other schools to take ours off us? But if we send some pikachus over itl all stop? 🤣Absolute nonsense ...do you think putin will stop at taking over ukraine?no idea what were the trigger for him trying? ...land grab...all the other reasons trotted out by his fanboys..are rubbish "
so putin is basically doing what we did all over the world but all of a sudden we have a conscious |
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war
It’s easy to identify components, even after an explosive incident. As for an endless war, Ukraine giving up land now wouldn’t mean that Russia wouldn’t come back again when it has restocked its military capability. Putin has aid that Ukraine isn’t a real country and he has said that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy of Russian history in the 20th Century (note that approximately 20 million Russians died in WW2 - in the 20th Century).
Russian imperialism will not stop at Ukraine, Moldova would be next and Latvia and Lithuania not long after that. We cannot think that Putin and the Russian elite can be negotiated with - they can’t. They imprison and murder their own people, they don’t share our values.bit like if there's a fight in another school the other side of town we best go stick up for the one with the best pokemon cards, because if not the other might fight his way 15 miles accros town fight the whole of 4 other schools to take ours off us? But if we send some pikachus over itl all stop? 🤣Absolute nonsense ...do you think putin will stop at taking over ukraine?no idea what were the trigger for him trying? ...land grab...all the other reasons trotted out by his fanboys..are rubbish so putin is basically doing what we did all over the world but all of a sudden we have a conscious "
..so you admit what he's doing is illegal..? |
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"News outlets confirming that UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles have been launched into Russia, the day after US Atacms were fired.
Reports of a command HQ used by Russia and North Korea has been destroyed, and an ammunition depot.
This is hotting up for Putin. What next ?
what next? now they have used uk and us missiles inside russia i wouldnt be at all surprised if in the next few days we will be seeing the biggest missile and air attack kiev has seen since the start of the war...the French have given permission to use their long range missiles, the British ones hit a bunker containing Russian and North Korean officers..Great news for Ukraine whats that got to do with the op? He was asking what happens next, i posted what i think will happen next you seem to just be cheer leading for ukraine why not post what you think will happen next or hasnt the idiot box in the corner of your room told you what will happen next? ...and where do you get your news...Facebook..?
Yes I am cheerleading for Ukraine...they're defending their country against an murderous dictator who invaded them..who are you siding with.. ?"
The cheerleading is all very nice but what’s the exit plan for Ukraine here?
They’ve been losing ground for months and they aren’t getting it back. They are running out of cannon fodder. Anyone with money has already left or bribes their way out of service. So the poor uneducated rural Ukrainians get conscripted to die on the front line for nothing.
Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and hasn’t had an election for years.
Sooner or later they are either going to have to accept an exit deal or lose. There is zero chance of an Ukraine victory.
Lobbing a few missiles across the Russian border isn’t going to make any difference.
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"News outlets confirming that UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles have been launched into Russia, the day after US Atacms were fired.
Reports of a command HQ used by Russia and North Korea has been destroyed, and an ammunition depot.
This is hotting up for Putin. What next ?
what next? now they have used uk and us missiles inside russia i wouldnt be at all surprised if in the next few days we will be seeing the biggest missile and air attack kiev has seen since the start of the war...the French have given permission to use their long range missiles, the British ones hit a bunker containing Russian and North Korean officers..Great news for Ukraine whats that got to do with the op? He was asking what happens next, i posted what i think will happen next you seem to just be cheer leading for ukraine why not post what you think will happen next or hasnt the idiot box in the corner of your room told you what will happen next? ...and where do you get your news...Facebook..?
Yes I am cheerleading for Ukraine...they're defending their country against an murderous dictator who invaded them..who are you siding with.. ?
The cheerleading is all very nice but what’s the exit plan for Ukraine here?
They’ve been losing ground for months and they aren’t getting it back. They are running out of cannon fodder. Anyone with money has already left or bribes their way out of service. So the poor uneducated rural Ukrainians get conscripted to die on the front line for nothing.
Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and hasn’t had an election for years.
Sooner or later they are either going to have to accept an exit deal or lose. There is zero chance of an Ukraine victory.
Lobbing a few missiles across the Russian border isn’t going to make any difference.
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...the Russians are using north Koreans as cannon fodder...every single Ukrainian fighter believes in their cause...do you think Russian conscripts do...they will fight to the last man...Russians are deserting in droves...are you a Putin fanboy? |
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By *oo hotCouple 7 weeks ago
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"If UK has supplied Storm Shadow missiles why the fuck have they announced it, Its not like the Russians would know what the missile was or who give it to them, Hopefully it calms down in the new year, Ukraine will probably lose some land but its better then a endless war
It’s easy to identify components, even after an explosive incident. As for an endless war, Ukraine giving up land now wouldn’t mean that Russia wouldn’t come back again when it has restocked its military capability. Putin has aid that Ukraine isn’t a real country and he has said that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest tragedy of Russian history in the 20th Century (note that approximately 20 million Russians died in WW2 - in the 20th Century).
Russian imperialism will not stop at Ukraine, Moldova would be next and Latvia and Lithuania not long after that. We cannot think that Putin and the Russian elite can be negotiated with - they can’t. They imprison and murder their own people, they don’t share our values.bit like if there's a fight in another school the other side of town we best go stick up for the one with the best pokemon cards, because if not the other might fight his way 15 miles accros town fight the whole of 4 other schools to take ours off us? But if we send some pikachus over itl all stop? 🤣Absolute nonsense "
It isn't nonsense at all.
You are aware that the UK, USA and Russia were guarantors of Ukrainian independence? We were also guarantors for Poland in 1938 despite Neville Chamberlain's weakness.
Perhaps you think that we should not have got involved in the fight against Nazism as Poland is quite a long way away. |
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By *oo hotCouple 7 weeks ago
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"News outlets confirming that UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles have been launched into Russia, the day after US Atacms were fired.
Reports of a command HQ used by Russia and North Korea has been destroyed, and an ammunition depot.
This is hotting up for Putin. What next ?
what next? now they have used uk and us missiles inside russia i wouldnt be at all surprised if in the next few days we will be seeing the biggest missile and air attack kiev has seen since the start of the war...the French have given permission to use their long range missiles, the British ones hit a bunker containing Russian and North Korean officers..Great news for Ukraine whats that got to do with the op? He was asking what happens next, i posted what i think will happen next you seem to just be cheer leading for ukraine why not post what you think will happen next or hasnt the idiot box in the corner of your room told you what will happen next? ...and where do you get your news...Facebook..?
Yes I am cheerleading for Ukraine...they're defending their country against an murderous dictator who invaded them..who are you siding with.. ?
The cheerleading is all very nice but what’s the exit plan for Ukraine here?
They’ve been losing ground for months and they aren’t getting it back. They are running out of cannon fodder. Anyone with money has already left or bribes their way out of service. So the poor uneducated rural Ukrainians get conscripted to die on the front line for nothing.
Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and hasn’t had an election for years.
Sooner or later they are either going to have to accept an exit deal or lose. There is zero chance of an Ukraine victory.
Lobbing a few missiles across the Russian border isn’t going to make any difference.
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You didn't ask the question that was asked of you.
Are you supporting the right of Ukraine to exist as an independent country, make its own decisions and live the life that it wants to live?
Or do you support a murderous dictator who thinks that Ukraine has no right to exist, its people have no right to want freedoms and that the murder of civilians and the complete annihilation of towns and villages is an acceptable face of warfare? |
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By *eavilMan 7 weeks ago
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An ICBM with a conventional warhead is a waste of a valuable missile and highly unlikely. If it was a ballistic missile it was probably a tactical battlefield missile. Soviet Union produced thousands of these since early 50s and Russia still has a sizeable number of them. |
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Sooner or later they are either going to have to accept an exit deal or lose. There is zero chance of an Ukraine victory.
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Nor a Russian one. There will have to be a negotiation, cue Trump
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"Looks like we got the response
Russia launch an ICBM attack on dnipro "
Contrary to sources denying this earlier. Yes it seems so
Vladimir Putin says Russia hit Ukraine with a new intermediate-range ballistic missile, days after Kyiv used Western-supplied weapons to strike inside Russia (BBC) |
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"News outlets confirming that UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles have been launched into Russia, the day after US Atacms were fired.
Reports of a command HQ used by Russia and North Korea has been destroyed, and an ammunition depot.
This is hotting up for Putin. What next ?
what next? now they have used uk and us missiles inside russia i wouldnt be at all surprised if in the next few days we will be seeing the biggest missile and air attack kiev has seen since the start of the war...the French have given permission to use their long range missiles, the British ones hit a bunker containing Russian and North Korean officers..Great news for Ukraine whats that got to do with the op? He was asking what happens next, i posted what i think will happen next you seem to just be cheer leading for ukraine why not post what you think will happen next or hasnt the idiot box in the corner of your room told you what will happen next? ...and where do you get your news...Facebook..?
Yes I am cheerleading for Ukraine...they're defending their country against an murderous dictator who invaded them..who are you siding with.. ?"
im not siding with anyone i dont have a dog in the race like i said i answerd what i think russia are likley to do in response, you dont seem to want to answer what the op was asking |
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"News outlets confirming that UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles have been launched into Russia, the day after US Atacms were fired.
Reports of a command HQ used by Russia and North Korea has been destroyed, and an ammunition depot.
This is hotting up for Putin. What next ?
what next? now they have used uk and us missiles inside russia i wouldnt be at all surprised if in the next few days we will be seeing the biggest missile and air attack kiev has seen since the start of the war...the French have given permission to use their long range missiles, the British ones hit a bunker containing Russian and North Korean officers..Great news for Ukraine whats that got to do with the op? He was asking what happens next, i posted what i think will happen next you seem to just be cheer leading for ukraine why not post what you think will happen next or hasnt the idiot box in the corner of your room told you what will happen next? ...and where do you get your news...Facebook..?
Yes I am cheerleading for Ukraine...they're defending their country against an murderous dictator who invaded them..who are you siding with.. ?im not siding with anyone i dont have a dog in the race like i said i answerd what i think russia are likley to do in response, you dont seem to want to answer what the op was asking"
...what next...?..bomb that Russian murderer into the stone age... |
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"News outlets confirming that UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles have been launched into Russia, the day after US Atacms were fired.
Reports of a command HQ used by Russia and North Korea has been destroyed, and an ammunition depot.
This is hotting up for Putin. What next ?
what next? now they have used uk and us missiles inside russia i wouldnt be at all surprised if in the next few days we will be seeing the biggest missile and air attack kiev has seen since the start of the war...the French have given permission to use their long range missiles, the British ones hit a bunker containing Russian and North Korean officers..Great news for Ukraine whats that got to do with the op? He was asking what happens next, i posted what i think will happen next you seem to just be cheer leading for ukraine why not post what you think will happen next or hasnt the idiot box in the corner of your room told you what will happen next? ...and where do you get your news...Facebook..?
Yes I am cheerleading for Ukraine...they're defending their country against an murderous dictator who invaded them..who are you siding with.. ?
The cheerleading is all very nice but what’s the exit plan for Ukraine here?
They’ve been losing ground for months and they aren’t getting it back. They are running out of cannon fodder. Anyone with money has already left or bribes their way out of service. So the poor uneducated rural Ukrainians get conscripted to die on the front line for nothing.
Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and hasn’t had an election for years.
Sooner or later they are either going to have to accept an exit deal or lose. There is zero chance of an Ukraine victory.
Lobbing a few missiles across the Russian border isn’t going to make any difference.
You didn't ask the question that was asked of you.
Are you supporting the right of Ukraine to exist as an independent country, make its own decisions and live the life that it wants to live?
Or do you support a murderous dictator who thinks that Ukraine has no right to exist, its people have no right to want freedoms and that the murder of civilians and the complete annihilation of towns and villages is an acceptable face of warfare?"
What question was asked of me?
What difference does it make what I think?
Lots of bad stuff happens all over the world. Why are we getting so engaged about this one?
What happened to Afghanistan? One minute we spent twenty years trying to turn it into New York. Then we left in a hurry and we no longer care.
The same will happen with Ukraine.
Is Ukraine a democracy? Has it historically been run for the benefit of its people? Why did millions of Ukrainians leave Ukraine before Russia invaded in 2022? Because it was a corrupt shithole and they’d rather take their chances elsewhere.
Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet. The idea that it was being run as some sort of popular egalitarian democracy prior to 2022 is laughable.
How do we know now whether Ukrainians support this war? There are no elections. Ukraine is under martial law. There is no free speech. There is no independent media. If Zelensky is so popular let him run again in fresh elections.
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whatever russia do, it'll only involve doing what they're doing to ukraine already, so no shift there really. they may snip the odd undersea cable, but that only pisses the owner off, which in the latest instance is google. |
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"News outlets confirming that UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles have been launched into Russia, the day after US Atacms were fired.
Reports of a command HQ used by Russia and North Korea has been destroyed, and an ammunition depot.
This is hotting up for Putin. What next ?
what next? now they have used uk and us missiles inside russia i wouldnt be at all surprised if in the next few days we will be seeing the biggest missile and air attack kiev has seen since the start of the war...the French have given permission to use their long range missiles, the British ones hit a bunker containing Russian and North Korean officers..Great news for Ukraine whats that got to do with the op? He was asking what happens next, i posted what i think will happen next you seem to just be cheer leading for ukraine why not post what you think will happen next or hasnt the idiot box in the corner of your room told you what will happen next? ...and where do you get your news...Facebook..?
Yes I am cheerleading for Ukraine...they're defending their country against an murderous dictator who invaded them..who are you siding with.. ?
The cheerleading is all very nice but what’s the exit plan for Ukraine here?
They’ve been losing ground for months and they aren’t getting it back. They are running out of cannon fodder. Anyone with money has already left or bribes their way out of service. So the poor uneducated rural Ukrainians get conscripted to die on the front line for nothing.
Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and hasn’t had an election for years.
Sooner or later they are either going to have to accept an exit deal or lose. There is zero chance of an Ukraine victory.
Lobbing a few missiles across the Russian border isn’t going to make any difference.
You didn't ask the question that was asked of you.
Are you supporting the right of Ukraine to exist as an independent country, make its own decisions and live the life that it wants to live?
Or do you support a murderous dictator who thinks that Ukraine has no right to exist, its people have no right to want freedoms and that the murder of civilians and the complete annihilation of towns and villages is an acceptable face of warfare?
What question was asked of me?
What difference does it make what I think?
Lots of bad stuff happens all over the world. Why are we getting so engaged about this one?
What happened to Afghanistan? One minute we spent twenty years trying to turn it into New York. Then we left in a hurry and we no longer care.
The same will happen with Ukraine.
Is Ukraine a democracy? Has it historically been run for the benefit of its people? Why did millions of Ukrainians leave Ukraine before Russia invaded in 2022? Because it was a corrupt shithole and they’d rather take their chances elsewhere.
Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet. The idea that it was being run as some sort of popular egalitarian democracy prior to 2022 is laughable.
How do we know now whether Ukrainians support this war? There are no elections. Ukraine is under martial law. There is no free speech. There is no independent media. If Zelensky is so popular let him run again in fresh elections.
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"News outlets confirming that UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles have been launched into Russia, the day after US Atacms were fired.
Reports of a command HQ used by Russia and North Korea has been destroyed, and an ammunition depot.
This is hotting up for Putin. What next ?
what next? now they have used uk and us missiles inside russia i wouldnt be at all surprised if in the next few days we will be seeing the biggest missile and air attack kiev has seen since the start of the war...the French have given permission to use their long range missiles, the British ones hit a bunker containing Russian and North Korean officers..Great news for Ukraine whats that got to do with the op? He was asking what happens next, i posted what i think will happen next you seem to just be cheer leading for ukraine why not post what you think will happen next or hasnt the idiot box in the corner of your room told you what will happen next? ...and where do you get your news...Facebook..?
Yes I am cheerleading for Ukraine...they're defending their country against an murderous dictator who invaded them..who are you siding with.. ?
The cheerleading is all very nice but what’s the exit plan for Ukraine here?
They’ve been losing ground for months and they aren’t getting it back. They are running out of cannon fodder. Anyone with money has already left or bribes their way out of service. So the poor uneducated rural Ukrainians get conscripted to die on the front line for nothing.
Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and hasn’t had an election for years.
Sooner or later they are either going to have to accept an exit deal or lose. There is zero chance of an Ukraine victory.
Lobbing a few missiles across the Russian border isn’t going to make any difference.
You didn't ask the question that was asked of you.
Are you supporting the right of Ukraine to exist as an independent country, make its own decisions and live the life that it wants to live?
Or do you support a murderous dictator who thinks that Ukraine has no right to exist, its people have no right to want freedoms and that the murder of civilians and the complete annihilation of towns and villages is an acceptable face of warfare?
What question was asked of me?
What difference does it make what I think?
Lots of bad stuff happens all over the world. Why are we getting so engaged about this one?
What happened to Afghanistan? One minute we spent twenty years trying to turn it into New York. Then we left in a hurry and we no longer care.
The same will happen with Ukraine.
Is Ukraine a democracy? Has it historically been run for the benefit of its people? Why did millions of Ukrainians leave Ukraine before Russia invaded in 2022? Because it was a corrupt shithole and they’d rather take their chances elsewhere.
Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet. The idea that it was being run as some sort of popular egalitarian democracy prior to 2022 is laughable.
How do we know now whether Ukrainians support this war? There are no elections. Ukraine is under martial law. There is no free speech. There is no independent media. If Zelensky is so popular let him run again in fresh elections.
...he might actually run I'm fresh elections..if putin would just fuck off home..."
I didn’t realise that Putin occupied all of Ukraine. Is the situation worse than we are being told?
Do you deny the international indices that have always put Ukraine near the top as far as corruption is concerned? Do you deny the population decline in Ukraine prior to 2022? Why were people leaving in their millions if it was such a great country?
What is the end game in Ukraine? What is the West’s goal? |
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It will be interesting to see what's next, Putin has now directly threatened the UK publicly. He is playing brinkmanship thinking the UK are a bunch weak cowards. It seems to be the last throw of the dice. If he gains or holds any land due to negotiations he'll have the baltic countries in his sights, as he'll see it that the west has no minerals to stand up to him.
The missile fired at Ukraine was just a show, if he attacked the US embassy there would be a big response, if he attacked another country other than Ukraine there would be a response, he knows that and he would lose.
If anyone thinks that Trump can stop the war or even wants it to stop are deluded. Russia does not need to win in Ukraine, he just needs the west and the USA to shown as weak. Trump entering negotiations will be the time the USA is seen as weak country with a weak leader, it will embolden Putin to take more land around his border, and Jinping to take take Taiwan without a shot being fired as Trump will be toothless when an invasion force sits off Taiwan.
Any cowards out there that think Ukraine ceeding land and negotiating must have a wish to live under Russian laws because that is what will happen.
Globally there is too much to lose for the USA if Trump thinks he can negotiate, he might but it will be a one time offer with no consideration of what Putin wants, in which case prepare for war. |
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"It will be interesting to see what's next, Putin has now directly threatened the UK publicly. He is playing brinkmanship thinking the UK are a bunch weak cowards. It seems to be the last throw of the dice. If he gains or holds any land due to negotiations he'll have the baltic countries in his sights, as he'll see it that the west has no minerals to stand up to him.
The missile fired at Ukraine was just a show, if he attacked the US embassy there would be a big response, if he attacked another country other than Ukraine there would be a response, he knows that and he would lose.
If anyone thinks that Trump can stop the war or even wants it to stop are deluded. Russia does not need to win in Ukraine, he just needs the west and the USA to shown as weak. Trump entering negotiations will be the time the USA is seen as weak country with a weak leader, it will embolden Putin to take more land around his border, and Jinping to take take Taiwan without a shot being fired as Trump will be toothless when an invasion force sits off Taiwan.
Any cowards out there that think Ukraine ceeding land and negotiating must have a wish to live under Russian laws because that is what will happen.
Globally there is too much to lose for the USA if Trump thinks he can negotiate, he might but it will be a one time offer with no consideration of what Putin wants, in which case prepare for war."
Russian sabre rattling against us is only because we deal in actions and not words.If they did that to the French they would find themselves slaughtered access Africa
Not the baltic
Moldova was already indicated as the next target when invasion began and then Georgia.After that it will be Azerbaijan and that will drag half the Middle East into war.
As for China I don’t think they’ll try to take Taiwan.It would leave them too exposed and also more beholden to Russia who they’re arguing with over who gets North Korea.Chinas next target is much more likely to be India |
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I think China would be more interested in taking back the massive amount of territory that Russia grabbed in the 19th century including Vladivostok.
China is very good at playing the long game and has noted Russia's weakened military capabilities. There would also be far fewer negative international complications of a Sino-Russia spat than one against Taiwan or India. |
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