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"Silly labour buzzword. The next gang will take their place. " So we just let them carry on? Arresting criminals isn’t good news anymore? | |||
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"Silly buzzwords are pointless . Need to make the UK less attractive. Like drug dealers . Take one off the street another steps up Smash the gangs, 20 million black hole. Far right thuggery. Pointless starmer soundbites " The country loves a 3 word slogans, it’s these gangs that are people trafficking, criminals should not be allowed to prosper | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. " Arrests in Holland, being charged in Belgium. This is SKS’s greatest triumph since the French arrested a load of people a few weeks back. I think he should be given some nice new glasses as a reward. | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. Arrests in Holland, being charged in Belgium. This is SKS’s greatest triumph since the French arrested a load of people a few weeks back. I think he should be given some nice new glasses as a reward. " Do we all agree it’s great news? I thought arresting criminals was seen as a positive | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. Arrests in Holland, being charged in Belgium. This is SKS’s greatest triumph since the French arrested a load of people a few weeks back. I think he should be given some nice new glasses as a reward. " Probably wears the glasses back to front | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. " The NCA is from the UK | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. Arrests in Holland, being charged in Belgium. This is SKS’s greatest triumph since the French arrested a load of people a few weeks back. I think he should be given some nice new glasses as a reward. Probably wears the glasses back to front " Haha, good one,  | |||
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"Silly buzzwords are pointless . Need to make the UK less attractive. " The last government did everything they could to make the country a less attractive place to live. Didn't seem to deter people fleeing war zones. | |||
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"Silly buzzwords are pointless . Need to make the UK less attractive. The last government did everything they could to make the country a less attractive place to live. Didn't seem to deter people fleeing war zones." It’s a sad state of affairs if we have to make the UK a shit hole just to deter a tiny number off asylum seekers, | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK " I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. " It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs " Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. " Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day Total incompetence of the Labour Government 19326 illegals and many more every day." The numbers are lower than last year, | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, " You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. | |||
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"Silly buzzwords are pointless . Need to make the UK less attractive. The last government did everything they could to make the country a less attractive place to live. Didn't seem to deter people fleeing war zones. It’s a sad state of affairs if we have to make the UK a shit hole just to deter a tiny number off asylum seekers, " I think you misunderstand the suggestion. The suggestion is not to make the country a shithole, but to remove some of the support structures that make this an attractive option. | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs " would be fantastic if it had anything to do with labour or starmer | |||
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"Silly buzzwords are pointless . Need to make the UK less attractive. The last government did everything they could to make the country a less attractive place to live. Didn't seem to deter people fleeing war zones. It’s a sad state of affairs if we have to make the UK a shit hole just to deter a tiny number off asylum seekers, I think you misunderstand the suggestion. The suggestion is not to make the country a shithole, but to remove some of the support structures that make this an attractive option. " These ‘support structures’ are grossly exaggerated by these evil gangs to encourage these poor people to give them money and risk their lives. That is why smashing the gangs is so important | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day Total incompetence of the Labour Government 19326 illegals and many more every day. The numbers are lower than last year, " Over 32,000 people have crossed the channel in 2024, which exceeds the total for the full year in 2023. So no, the numbers are not lower than last year | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. " That is your opinion, not fact , | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , " It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. | |||
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"Silly buzzwords are pointless . Need to make the UK less attractive. The last government did everything they could to make the country a less attractive place to live. Didn't seem to deter people fleeing war zones. It’s a sad state of affairs if we have to make the UK a shit hole just to deter a tiny number off asylum seekers, I think you misunderstand the suggestion. The suggestion is not to make the country a shithole, but to remove some of the support structures that make this an attractive option. These ‘support structures’ are grossly exaggerated by these evil gangs to encourage these poor people to give them money and risk their lives. That is why smashing the gangs is so important " You understand that you got the wrong end of the stick though? That the suggestion was not to “turn the country into a shithole”? Yes, absolutely, the smugglers must be stopped, they are responsible for people losing their lives | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day Total incompetence of the Labour Government 19326 illegals and many more every day. The numbers are lower than last year, Over 32,000 people have crossed the channel in 2024, which exceeds the total for the full year in 2023. So no, the numbers are not lower than last year " SKS hasn’t been in charge all year, however, its lower than 2022 | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. " … and is facing charges in Belgium | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. " With the assistance of the NCA | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. " facts here ppls feelings on here tho | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. … and is facing charges in Belgium " You do realise these gangs are not all based in the UK | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day Total incompetence of the Labour Government 19326 illegals and many more every day. The numbers are lower than last year, Over 32,000 people have crossed the channel in 2024, which exceeds the total for the full year in 2023. So no, the numbers are not lower than last year SKS hasn’t been in charge all year, however, its lower than 2022 " So you agree that the numbers are not “lower than last year” like you had posted? | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. facts here ppls feelings on here tho " Pardon?  | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. … and is facing charges in Belgium You do realise these gangs are not all based in the UK " Yes I do. And you do realise that SKS doesn’t run Holland and Belgium? | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA " Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? | |||
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"A staggering 19326 have crossed channel since Keirs became PM . That 150 per day Total incompetence of the Labour Government 19326 illegals and many more every day. The numbers are lower than last year, Over 32,000 people have crossed the channel in 2024, which exceeds the total for the full year in 2023. So no, the numbers are not lower than last year SKS hasn’t been in charge all year, however, its lower than 2022 So you agree that the numbers are not “lower than last year” like you had posted? " Yes, I agree, good point well made | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA?" It comes under government control , the home office | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office " I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs would be fantastic if it had anything to do with labour or starmer " We had two of those illegals in our village rummaging around the other day totally upto no good. Bad news when the get as far up as Scotland | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise?" I am saying otherwise | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs would be fantastic if it had anything to do with labour or starmer We had two of those illegals in our village rummaging around the other day totally upto no good. Bad news when the get as far up as Scotland " Nightmare, how do you know they were illegals? | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise?" Correct. | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? Correct. " Incorrect, | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs would be fantastic if it had anything to do with labour or starmer We had two of those illegals in our village rummaging around the other day totally upto no good. Bad news when the get as far up as Scotland " Yes that is bad news, the poor fuckers could freeze to death, with winter lasting from September to June | |||
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"Silly buzzwords are pointless . Need to make the UK less attractive. The last government did everything they could to make the country a less attractive place to live. Didn't seem to deter people fleeing war zones." i keep telling you there leaving france not a war zone | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? Correct. Incorrect, " “The NCA was established by the Crime and Courts Act in 2013. We are a non-ministerial civil service department , operationally independent and accountable to Parliament thorough the Home Secretary.”. Operationally independent. Ie, they are not run or instructed by the Home Secretary. The other poster was correct, they are operationally independent, so their operation had nothing to do with SKS. | |||
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"Silly buzzwords are pointless . Need to make the UK less attractive. The last government did everything they could to make the country a less attractive place to live. Didn't seem to deter people fleeing war zones.i keep telling you there leaving france not a war zone" They’re all French? Ok, well at least food standards will improve then | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? Correct. Incorrect, “The NCA was established by the Crime and Courts Act in 2013. We are a non-ministerial civil service department , operationally independent and accountable to Parliament thorough the Home Secretary.”. Operationally independent. Ie, they are not run or instructed by the Home Secretary. The other poster was correct, they are operationally independent, so their operation had nothing to do with SKS. " They work under the Home Secretary, she has the power to appoint or sack the director general , she has the ultimate power | |||
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"A very positive development and not a moment too soon. Let's hope it brings some sanity to border control and smashing people smuggling gangs. " A good point , well made, at last some positivity in here, I was beginning to think people don’t want criminals to be arrested | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. " The Belgians and Dutch are currently getting very, very sick of illegal immigration. It might soon get pretty ugly. | |||
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"Silly buzzwords are pointless . Need to make the UK less attractive. The last government did everything they could to make the country a less attractive place to live. Didn't seem to deter people fleeing war zones. It’s a sad state of affairs if we have to make the UK a shit hole just to deter a tiny number off asylum seekers, I think you misunderstand the suggestion. The suggestion is not to make the country a shithole, but to remove some of the support structures that make this an attractive option. " Treat asylum seekers even worse? For this to work it would have to make it worse than whatever conditions they're fleeing from. | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs would be fantastic if it had anything to do with labour or starmer We had two of those illegals in our village rummaging around the other day totally upto no good. Bad news when the get as far up as Scotland " How do you know they were illegal? What kind of "no good" were they upto, apart from the obvious crime of being foreign. | |||
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"This is Priti Patel doing the same shit 3 years back https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/priti-patel-national-crime-agency-london-home-secretary-woodford-green-b936067.html Starmer is doing exactly what Priti Patel did. And Labour fans are celebrating it. Politics has never been so funny." I am sure we all agree that arresting criminals and smashing the gangs is a positive thing to celebrate | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? I am saying otherwise " . Your opinion doesn't Trump fact I'm afraid. | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? I am saying otherwise . Your opinion doesn't Trump fact I'm afraid. " Here are the facts The NCA director general is appointed by and report to the Home Secretary, the Home Secretary is his boss The Home Secretary is part of the labour government SKS is the PM of the government | |||
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"This is Priti Patel doing the same shit 3 years back https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/priti-patel-national-crime-agency-london-home-secretary-woodford-green-b936067.html Starmer is doing exactly what Priti Patel did. And Labour fans are celebrating it. Politics has never been so funny. I am sure we all agree that arresting criminals and smashing the gangs is a positive thing to celebrate " Sure we can celebrate. But don't pretend like it's going to solve the problem. | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? I am saying otherwise . Your opinion doesn't Trump fact I'm afraid. Here are the facts The NCA director general is appointed by and report to the Home Secretary, the Home Secretary is his boss The Home Secretary is part of the labour government SKS is the PM of the government " Operationally independent is key. Even you probably understand that. However, I'd yourecrediring Govt then it has to be the pretty one, as she appointed him. | |||
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"This is Priti Patel doing the same shit 3 years back https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/priti-patel-national-crime-agency-london-home-secretary-woodford-green-b936067.html Starmer is doing exactly what Priti Patel did. And Labour fans are celebrating it. Politics has never been so funny. I am sure we all agree that arresting criminals and smashing the gangs is a positive thing to celebrate Sure we can celebrate. But don't pretend like it's going to solve the problem." It will help, be more positive | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? I am saying otherwise . Your opinion doesn't Trump fact I'm afraid. Here are the facts The NCA director general is appointed by and report to the Home Secretary, the Home Secretary is his boss The Home Secretary is part of the labour government SKS is the PM of the government Operationally independent is key. Even you probably understand that. However, I'd yourecrediring Govt then it has to be the pretty one, as she appointed him. " *crediting | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? I am saying otherwise . Your opinion doesn't Trump fact I'm afraid. Here are the facts The NCA director general is appointed by and report to the Home Secretary, the Home Secretary is his boss The Home Secretary is part of the labour government SKS is the PM of the government Operationally independent is key. Even you probably understand that. However, I'd yourecrediring Govt then it has to be the pretty one, as she appointed him. " Operational independent from the home office, not the Home Secretary, decent effort though. Yes Patel appointed him (at last your admitting the hole secretary is in charge) but Yvette copper had the good sense to keep him in his post. Smashing the gangs  | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? I am saying otherwise . Your opinion doesn't Trump fact I'm afraid. Here are the facts The NCA director general is appointed by and report to the Home Secretary, the Home Secretary is his boss The Home Secretary is part of the labour government SKS is the PM of the government Operationally independent is key. Even you probably understand that. However, I'd yourecrediring Govt then it has to be the pretty one, as she appointed him. Operational independent from the home office, not the Home Secretary, decent effort though. Yes Patel appointed him (at last your admitting the hole secretary is in charge) but Yvette copper had the good sense to keep him in his post. Smashing the gangs "Hilarious...the inability to give credit to another party if it's due | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? I am saying otherwise . Your opinion doesn't Trump fact I'm afraid. Here are the facts The NCA director general is appointed by and report to the Home Secretary, the Home Secretary is his boss The Home Secretary is part of the labour government SKS is the PM of the government Operationally independent is key. Even you probably understand that. However, I'd yourecrediring Govt then it has to be the pretty one, as she appointed him. Operational independent from the home office, not the Home Secretary, decent effort though. Yes Patel appointed him (at last your admitting the hole secretary is in charge) but Yvette copper had the good sense to keep him in his post. Smashing the gangs
Hilarious...the inability to give credit to another party if it's due"Hi there, Patel did a good job appointing him, Cooper did a good job keeping him, both are true | |||
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"This is Priti Patel doing the same shit 3 years back https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/priti-patel-national-crime-agency-london-home-secretary-woodford-green-b936067.html Starmer is doing exactly what Priti Patel did. And Labour fans are celebrating it. Politics has never been so funny. I am sure we all agree that arresting criminals and smashing the gangs is a positive thing to celebrate Sure we can celebrate. But don't pretend like it's going to solve the problem. It will help, be more positive " Were you positive when Priti Patel did this? | |||
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"This is Priti Patel doing the same shit 3 years back https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/priti-patel-national-crime-agency-london-home-secretary-woodford-green-b936067.html Starmer is doing exactly what Priti Patel did. And Labour fans are celebrating it. Politics has never been so funny. I am sure we all agree that arresting criminals and smashing the gangs is a positive thing to celebrate Sure we can celebrate. But don't pretend like it's going to solve the problem. It will help, be more positive Were you positive when Priti Patel did this? " Yes, | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? I am saying otherwise . Your opinion doesn't Trump fact I'm afraid. Here are the facts The NCA director general is appointed by and report to the Home Secretary, the Home Secretary is his boss The Home Secretary is part of the labour government SKS is the PM of the government Operationally independent is key. Even you probably understand that. However, I'd yourecrediring Govt then it has to be the pretty one, as she appointed him. Operational independent from the home office, not the Home Secretary, decent effort though. Yes Patel appointed him (at last your admitting the hole secretary is in charge) but Yvette copper had the good sense to keep him in his post. Smashing the gangs "A minister cannot sack civil servants because they disagree with decisions they make. You're someone who argues civil servants are independent, yet here we are, because you think it gives you some sort of win. Yvette Cooper does not make operational decisions for the NCA. | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? I am saying otherwise . Your opinion doesn't Trump fact I'm afraid. Here are the facts The NCA director general is appointed by and report to the Home Secretary, the Home Secretary is his boss The Home Secretary is part of the labour government SKS is the PM of the government Operationally independent is key. Even you probably understand that. However, I'd yourecrediring Govt then it has to be the pretty one, as she appointed him. Operational independent from the home office, not the Home Secretary, decent effort though. Yes Patel appointed him (at last your admitting the hole secretary is in charge) but Yvette copper had the good sense to keep him in his post. Smashing the gangs
A minister cannot sack civil servants because they disagree with decisions they make.
You're someone who argues civil servants are independent, yet here we are, because you think it gives you some sort of win.
Yvette Cooper does not make operational decisions for the NCA. "She doesn’t make operations decisions for a lot of departments she is in charge of, just take the L and move on. Smashing the gangs | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? I am saying otherwise . Your opinion doesn't Trump fact I'm afraid. Here are the facts The NCA director general is appointed by and report to the Home Secretary, the Home Secretary is his boss The Home Secretary is part of the labour government SKS is the PM of the government Operationally independent is key. Even you probably understand that. However, I'd yourecrediring Govt then it has to be the pretty one, as she appointed him. Operational independent from the home office, not the Home Secretary, decent effort though. Yes Patel appointed him (at last your admitting the hole secretary is in charge) but Yvette copper had the good sense to keep him in his post. Smashing the gangs
A minister cannot sack civil servants because they disagree with decisions they make.
You're someone who argues civil servants are independent, yet here we are, because you think it gives you some sort of win.
Yvette Cooper does not make operational decisions for the NCA.
She doesn’t make operations decisions for a lot of departments she is in charge of, just take the L and move on. Smashing the gangs "So it has fuck all to do with her 
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? I am saying otherwise . Your opinion doesn't Trump fact I'm afraid. Here are the facts The NCA director general is appointed by and report to the Home Secretary, the Home Secretary is his boss The Home Secretary is part of the labour government SKS is the PM of the government Operationally independent is key. Even you probably understand that. However, I'd yourecrediring Govt then it has to be the pretty one, as she appointed him. Operational independent from the home office, not the Home Secretary, decent effort though. Yes Patel appointed him (at last your admitting the hole secretary is in charge) but Yvette copper had the good sense to keep him in his post. Smashing the gangs
A minister cannot sack civil servants because they disagree with decisions they make.
You're someone who argues civil servants are independent, yet here we are, because you think it gives you some sort of win.
Yvette Cooper does not make operational decisions for the NCA.
She doesn’t make operations decisions for a lot of departments she is in charge of, just take the L and move on. Smashing the gangs
So it has fuck all to do with her
I thought you lefties were 'educated'?"She is in charge of a huge department, do you honestly think she makes operational decisions for every home office department? , she delegates to others , you’re embarrassing yourself | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? I am saying otherwise . Your opinion doesn't Trump fact I'm afraid. Here are the facts The NCA director general is appointed by and report to the Home Secretary, the Home Secretary is his boss The Home Secretary is part of the labour government SKS is the PM of the government Operationally independent is key. Even you probably understand that. However, I'd yourecrediring Govt then it has to be the pretty one, as she appointed him. Operational independent from the home office, not the Home Secretary, decent effort though. Yes Patel appointed him (at last your admitting the hole secretary is in charge) but Yvette copper had the good sense to keep him in his post. Smashing the gangs
A minister cannot sack civil servants because they disagree with decisions they make.
You're someone who argues civil servants are independent, yet here we are, because you think it gives you some sort of win.
Yvette Cooper does not make operational decisions for the NCA.
She doesn’t make operations decisions for a lot of departments she is in charge of, just take the L and move on. Smashing the gangs
So it has fuck all to do with her
I thought you lefties were 'educated'?
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? I am saying otherwise . Your opinion doesn't Trump fact I'm afraid. Here are the facts The NCA director general is appointed by and report to the Home Secretary, the Home Secretary is his boss The Home Secretary is part of the labour government SKS is the PM of the government Operationally independent is key. Even you probably understand that. However, I'd yourecrediring Govt then it has to be the pretty one, as she appointed him. Operational independent from the home office, not the Home Secretary, decent effort though. Yes Patel appointed him (at last your admitting the hole secretary is in charge) but Yvette copper had the good sense to keep him in his post. Smashing the gangs
A minister cannot sack civil servants because they disagree with decisions they make.
You're someone who argues civil servants are independent, yet here we are, because you think it gives you some sort of win.
Yvette Cooper does not make operational decisions for the NCA.
She doesn’t make operations decisions for a lot of departments she is in charge of, just take the L and move on. Smashing the gangs
So it has fuck all to do with her
I thought you lefties were 'educated'?
She is in charge of a huge department, do you honestly think she makes operational decisions for every home office department? , she delegates to others , you’re embarrassing yourself
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? I am saying otherwise . Your opinion doesn't Trump fact I'm afraid. Here are the facts The NCA director general is appointed by and report to the Home Secretary, the Home Secretary is his boss The Home Secretary is part of the labour government SKS is the PM of the government Operationally independent is key. Even you probably understand that. However, I'd yourecrediring Govt then it has to be the pretty one, as she appointed him. Operational independent from the home office, not the Home Secretary, decent effort though. Yes Patel appointed him (at last your admitting the hole secretary is in charge) but Yvette copper had the good sense to keep him in his post. Smashing the gangs
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs " The only gangs labour have smashed are the evil pensioners, farmers, businesses and parents educating their children privately. If they could be as cut-throat with smuggling gangs as they have with our home grown evil gangs above, the problem of illegal small boat crossings would vanish overnight. | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs The only gangs labour have smashed are the evil pensioners, farmers, businesses and parents educating their children privately. If they could be as cut-throat with smuggling gangs as they have with our home grown evil gangs above, the problem of illegal small boat crossings would vanish overnight. " Why are pensioners evil? And who are these farmer and parent gangs you speak off? | |||
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum." Hi there, are you criticising people posting on here whilst posting on here? | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs The only gangs labour have smashed are the evil pensioners, farmers, businesses and parents educating their children privately. If they could be as cut-throat with smuggling gangs as they have with our home grown evil gangs above, the problem of illegal small boat crossings would vanish overnight. " Just proves how unskilled and inadequate the Westminster Labour government is. | |||
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum." Hey, I was wondering how the two people you saw in your town were illegal? And what "no good" were they upto? | |||
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum. Hey, I was wondering how the two people you saw in your town were illegal? And what "no good" were they upto?" Apparently they used to sit outside there digs all day (The Station hotel Perth) and now bus out to surrounding villages, extremely dark complexion and they have been recognised by a number of locals. Apparently they are banned from Sainsbury's our local supermarket and eye up all females. Sure there's nothing wrong with that if that's all they do, but we are watching just incase. And don't think for one minute we are racist or a racist village because that's not the case, we welcome everyone. We even have a lovely Chinese family who own and run a lovely Chinese restaurant and takeaway and they are treated as local villagers no different from you and me. | |||
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum. Hey, I was wondering how the two people you saw in your town were illegal? And what "no good" were they upto? Apparently they used to sit outside there digs all day (The Station hotel Perth) and now bus out to surrounding villages, extremely dark complexion and they have been recognised by a number of locals. Apparently they are banned from Sainsbury's our local supermarket and eye up all females. Sure there's nothing wrong with that if that's all they do, but we are watching just incase. And don't think for one minute we are racist or a racist village because that's not the case, we welcome everyone. We even have a lovely Chinese family who own and run a lovely Chinese restaurant and takeaway and they are treated as local villagers no different from you and me." So they sit down and have brown skin. Amazing. That seems like conclusive proof that they are "illegals". | |||
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum. Hey, I was wondering how the two people you saw in your town were illegal? And what "no good" were they upto? Apparently they used to sit outside there digs all day (The Station hotel Perth) and now bus out to surrounding villages, extremely dark complexion and they have been recognised by a number of locals. Apparently they are banned from Sainsbury's our local supermarket and eye up all females. Sure there's nothing wrong with that if that's all they do, but we are watching just incase. And don't think for one minute we are racist or a racist village because that's not the case, we welcome everyone. We even have a lovely Chinese family who own and run a lovely Chinese restaurant and takeaway and they are treated as local villagers no different from you and me." I was going to visit Kinross but I have a tan from a recent holiday, will I be ok ? or will you and your local friends be stalking me when I walk around | |||
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"Great news this foreign criminal has been arrested in a foreign country by foreign police. Clearly this would not have happened if the Tories were in office. Well done SKS, just a matter of time for the boats to stop. Keep the red flag flying" You are aware that boats are still crossing? | |||
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"Great news this foreign criminal has been arrested in a foreign country by foreign police. Clearly this would not have happened if the Tories were in office. Well done SKS, just a matter of time for the boats to stop. Keep the red flag flying You are aware that boats are still crossing?" Don’t worry, the gangs are being smashed | |||
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum. Hey, I was wondering how the two people you saw in your town were illegal? And what "no good" were they upto? Apparently they used to sit outside there digs all day (The Station hotel Perth) and now bus out to surrounding villages, extremely dark complexion and they have been recognised by a number of locals. Apparently they are banned from Sainsbury's our local supermarket and eye up all females. Sure there's nothing wrong with that if that's all they do, but we are watching just incase. And don't think for one minute we are racist or a racist village because that's not the case, we welcome everyone. We even have a lovely Chinese family who own and run a lovely Chinese restaurant and takeaway and they are treated as local villagers no different from you and me. So they sit down and have brown skin. Amazing. That seems like conclusive proof that they are "illegals"." Yes that must be why Sainsbury banned them | |||
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum. Hey, I was wondering how the two people you saw in your town were illegal? And what "no good" were they upto? Apparently they used to sit outside there digs all day (The Station hotel Perth) and now bus out to surrounding villages, extremely dark complexion and they have been recognised by a number of locals. Apparently they are banned from Sainsbury's our local supermarket and eye up all females. Sure there's nothing wrong with that if that's all they do, but we are watching just incase. And don't think for one minute we are racist or a racist village because that's not the case, we welcome everyone. We even have a lovely Chinese family who own and run a lovely Chinese restaurant and takeaway and they are treated as local villagers no different from you and me. So they sit down and have brown skin. Amazing. That seems like conclusive proof that they are "illegals". Yes that must be why Sainsbury banned them "Because the people at Sainsbury's jumped to conclusions based on their skin colour and how often they sit down? Maybe, but I've no idea. | |||
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum. Hey, I was wondering how the two people you saw in your town were illegal? And what "no good" were they upto? Apparently they used to sit outside there digs all day (The Station hotel Perth) and now bus out to surrounding villages, extremely dark complexion and they have been recognised by a number of locals. Apparently they are banned from Sainsbury's our local supermarket and eye up all females. Sure there's nothing wrong with that if that's all they do, but we are watching just incase. And don't think for one minute we are racist or a racist village because that's not the case, we welcome everyone. We even have a lovely Chinese family who own and run a lovely Chinese restaurant and takeaway and they are treated as local villagers no different from you and me." Reads like a script from a comedy | |||
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum. Hey, I was wondering how the two people you saw in your town were illegal? And what "no good" were they upto? Apparently they used to sit outside there digs all day (The Station hotel Perth) and now bus out to surrounding villages, extremely dark complexion and they have been recognised by a number of locals. Apparently they are banned from Sainsbury's our local supermarket and eye up all females. Sure there's nothing wrong with that if that's all they do, but we are watching just incase. And don't think for one minute we are racist or a racist village because that's not the case, we welcome everyone. We even have a lovely Chinese family who own and run a lovely Chinese restaurant and takeaway and they are treated as local villagers no different from you and me. Reads like a script from a comedy " | |||
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"These ‘support structures’ are grossly exaggerated by these evil gangs to encourage these poor people to give them money and risk their lives. That is why smashing the gangs is so important " In another thread you spent all of your time telling us that the immigration issue wasn't important, and that only a small minority cared about it. What changed? | |||
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"These ‘support structures’ are grossly exaggerated by these evil gangs to encourage these poor people to give them money and risk their lives. That is why smashing the gangs is so important In another thread you spent all of your time telling us that the immigration issue wasn't important, and that only a small minority cared about it. What changed?" Nothing, I thought you would be happy, even though this isn’t a priority labour are still delivering | |||
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum. Hey, I was wondering how the two people you saw in your town were illegal? And what "no good" were they upto? Apparently they used to sit outside there digs all day (The Station hotel Perth) and now bus out to surrounding villages, extremely dark complexion and they have been recognised by a number of locals. Apparently they are banned from Sainsbury's our local supermarket and eye up all females. Sure there's nothing wrong with that if that's all they do, but we are watching just incase. And don't think for one minute we are racist or a racist village because that's not the case, we welcome everyone. We even have a lovely Chinese family who own and run a lovely Chinese restaurant and takeaway and they are treated as local villagers no different from you and me. So they sit down and have brown skin. Amazing. That seems like conclusive proof that they are "illegals". Yes that must be why Sainsbury banned them
Because the people at Sainsbury's jumped to conclusions based on their skin colour and how often they sit down? Maybe, but I've no idea."Yes that's true, you have no idea, you don't live here. We don't like strangers hanging around in our village and we aim to keep it safe | |||
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum. Hey, I was wondering how the two people you saw in your town were illegal? And what "no good" were they upto? Apparently they used to sit outside there digs all day (The Station hotel Perth) and now bus out to surrounding villages, extremely dark complexion and they have been recognised by a number of locals. Apparently they are banned from Sainsbury's our local supermarket and eye up all females. Sure there's nothing wrong with that if that's all they do, but we are watching just incase. And don't think for one minute we are racist or a racist village because that's not the case, we welcome everyone. We even have a lovely Chinese family who own and run a lovely Chinese restaurant and takeaway and they are treated as local villagers no different from you and me. So they sit down and have brown skin. Amazing. That seems like conclusive proof that they are "illegals". Yes that must be why Sainsbury banned them
Because the people at Sainsbury's jumped to conclusions based on their skin colour and how often they sit down? Maybe, but I've no idea.
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"These ‘support structures’ are grossly exaggerated by these evil gangs to encourage these poor people to give them money and risk their lives. That is why smashing the gangs is so important" "In another thread you spent all of your time telling us that the immigration issue wasn't important, and that only a small minority cared about it. What changed?" "Nothing, I thought you would be happy, even though this isn’t a priority labour are still delivering " Now you're contradicting your own posts in the same thread. Which is it? Is it important like you said a couple of hours ago, or not a priority like you've just said? | |||
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum. Hey, I was wondering how the two people you saw in your town were illegal? And what "no good" were they upto? Apparently they used to sit outside there digs all day (The Station hotel Perth) and now bus out to surrounding villages, extremely dark complexion and they have been recognised by a number of locals. Apparently they are banned from Sainsbury's our local supermarket and eye up all females. Sure there's nothing wrong with that if that's all they do, but we are watching just incase. And don't think for one minute we are racist or a racist village because that's not the case, we welcome everyone. We even have a lovely Chinese family who own and run a lovely Chinese restaurant and takeaway and they are treated as local villagers no different from you and me. So they sit down and have brown skin. Amazing. That seems like conclusive proof that they are "illegals". Yes that must be why Sainsbury banned them
Because the people at Sainsbury's jumped to conclusions based on their skin colour and how often they sit down? Maybe, but I've no idea.
Yes that's true, you have no idea, you don't live here."If I did live there. Would I know why Sainsbury's allegedly banned them? You live there and don't know. " We don't like strangers hanging around in our village" Especially dark skinned ones that sit down. " and we aim to keep it safe " Who keeps it safe for dark skinned people who sit down? Anyway, you didn't answer my question, I wondered how you know they are "illegals". | |||
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum. Hey, I was wondering how the two people you saw in your town were illegal? And what "no good" were they upto? Apparently they used to sit outside there digs all day (The Station hotel Perth) and now bus out to surrounding villages, extremely dark complexion and they have been recognised by a number of locals. Apparently they are banned from Sainsbury's our local supermarket and eye up all females. Sure there's nothing wrong with that if that's all they do, but we are watching just incase. And don't think for one minute we are racist or a racist village because that's not the case, we welcome everyone. We even have a lovely Chinese family who own and run a lovely Chinese restaurant and takeaway and they are treated as local villagers no different from you and me. So they sit down and have brown skin. Amazing. That seems like conclusive proof that they are "illegals". Yes that must be why Sainsbury banned them
Because the people at Sainsbury's jumped to conclusions based on their skin colour and how often they sit down? Maybe, but I've no idea.
Yes that's true, you have no idea, you don't live here.
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum. Hey, I was wondering how the two people you saw in your town were illegal? And what "no good" were they upto? Apparently they used to sit outside there digs all day (The Station hotel Perth) and now bus out to surrounding villages, extremely dark complexion and they have been recognised by a number of locals. Apparently they are banned from Sainsbury's our local supermarket and eye up all females. Sure there's nothing wrong with that if that's all they do, but we are watching just incase. And don't think for one minute we are racist or a racist village because that's not the case, we welcome everyone. We even have a lovely Chinese family who own and run a lovely Chinese restaurant and takeaway and they are treated as local villagers no different from you and me. So they sit down and have brown skin. Amazing. That seems like conclusive proof that they are "illegals". Yes that must be why Sainsbury banned them
Because the people at Sainsbury's jumped to conclusions based on their skin colour and how often they sit down? Maybe, but I've no idea.
Yes that's true, you have no idea, you don't live here.
We don't like strangers hanging around in our village and we aim to keep it safe
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"These ‘support structures’ are grossly exaggerated by these evil gangs to encourage these poor people to give them money and risk their lives. That is why smashing the gangs is so important In another thread you spent all of your time telling us that the immigration issue wasn't important, and that only a small minority cared about it. What changed? Nothing, I thought you would be happy, even though this isn’t a priority labour are still delivering Now you're contradicting your own posts in the same thread. Which is it? Is it important like you said a couple of hours ago, or not a priority like you've just said?" No contradiction, read my last post again | |||
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"Bloody heck are you guys still ranting on! Don't you even take time out for tea. There's life outside these posts on this forum. Hey, I was wondering how the two people you saw in your town were illegal? And what "no good" were they upto? Apparently they used to sit outside there digs all day (The Station hotel Perth) and now bus out to surrounding villages, extremely dark complexion and they have been recognised by a number of locals. Apparently they are banned from Sainsbury's our local supermarket and eye up all females. Sure there's nothing wrong with that if that's all they do, but we are watching just incase. And don't think for one minute we are racist or a racist village because that's not the case, we welcome everyone. We even have a lovely Chinese family who own and run a lovely Chinese restaurant and takeaway and they are treated as local villagers no different from you and me. So they sit down and have brown skin. Amazing. That seems like conclusive proof that they are "illegals". Yes that must be why Sainsbury banned them
Because the people at Sainsbury's jumped to conclusions based on their skin colour and how often they sit down? Maybe, but I've no idea.
Yes that's true, you have no idea, you don't live here.
We don't like strangers hanging around in our village and we aim to keep it safe
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"Anyway off to sit with a beer and watch a movie Duke's of Hazard "Followed by Smokey and the Bandit | |||
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"Anyway off to sit with a beer and watch a movie Duke's of Hazard
Followed by Smokey and the Bandit "Haha, not tonight but if they done a remake then maybe. Another great movie Convoy too | |||
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"Anyway off to sit with a beer and watch a movie Duke's of Hazard
Followed by Smokey and the Bandit
Haha, not tonight but if they done a remake then maybe. Another great movie
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"These ‘support structures’ are grossly exaggerated by these evil gangs to encourage these poor people to give them money and risk their lives. That is why smashing the gangs is so important In another thread you spent all of your time telling us that the immigration issue wasn't important, and that only a small minority cared about it. What changed? Nothing, I thought you would be happy, even though this isn’t a priority labour are still delivering Now you're contradicting your own posts in the same thread. Which is it? Is it important like you said a couple of hours ago, or not a priority like you've just said? No contradiction, read my last post again " Be careful everyone because I've noticed these posts have a habit of disappearing just like that | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. " Yup. | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. " Again, Yup. | |||
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"No contradiction, read my last post again" I did. I'll post them here so that everyone can read them again. Here's a quote from your early post: "That is why smashing the gangs is so important" And here's a quote from a couple of hours later: "... this isn’t a priority" How are you claiming that both of those statements are true? | |||
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"Great news this foreign criminal has been arrested in a foreign country by foreign police. Clearly this would not have happened if the Tories were in office. Well done SKS, just a matter of time for the boats to stop. Keep the red flag flying You are aware that boats are still crossing?" Just a matter of time for SKS to stop them. He is fresh from being instrumental in this foreign criminal being arrested by foreign police who clearly had no idea until SKS showed them what to do. It's the closest he has to success so we must not be dismissive | |||
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"Great news this foreign criminal has been arrested in a foreign country by foreign police. Clearly this would not have happened if the Tories were in office. Well done SKS, just a matter of time for the boats to stop. Keep the red flag flying You are aware that boats are still crossing? Just a matter of time for SKS to stop them. He is fresh from being instrumental in this foreign criminal being arrested by foreign police who clearly had no idea until SKS showed them what to do. It's the closest he has to success so we must not be dismissive" I sincerely you're right but I very much doubt it | |||
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"Great news this foreign criminal has been arrested in a foreign country by foreign police. Clearly this would not have happened if the Tories were in office. Well done SKS, just a matter of time for the boats to stop. Keep the red flag flying You are aware that boats are still crossing? Just a matter of time for SKS to stop them. He is fresh from being instrumental in this foreign criminal being arrested by foreign police who clearly had no idea until SKS showed them what to do. It's the closest he has to success so we must not be dismissive" | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs " So have they stored them all coming no more small boots ?? | |||
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"Great news this foreign criminal has been arrested in a foreign country by foreign police. Clearly this would not have happened if the Tories were in office. Well done SKS, just a matter of time for the boats to stop. Keep the red flag flying You are aware that boats are still crossing? Just a matter of time for SKS to stop them. He is fresh from being instrumental in this foreign criminal being arrested by foreign police who clearly had no idea until SKS showed them what to do. It's the closest he has to success so we must not be dismissive" So have they arrested all the people from all the gangs. It sounded like it was 1 guy from 1 gang, probably not even close to being the leader of the gang. | |||
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"Silly buzzwords are pointless . Need to make the UK less attractive. It's heart-warming to read that someone is actually humanising asylum seekers. The last government did everything they could to make the country a less attractive place to live. Didn't seem to deter people fleeing war zones. It’s a sad state of affairs if we have to make the UK a shit hole just to deter a tiny number off asylum seekers, I think you misunderstand the suggestion. The suggestion is not to make the country a shithole, but to remove some of the support structures that make this an attractive option. These ‘support structures’ are grossly exaggerated by these evil gangs to encourage these poor people to give them money and risk their lives. That is why smashing the gangs is so important " | |||
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"Apparently the guy with a warehouse, a warehouse not a garage or a shed was doing it for years. Probably he started when Blair was pm. How come police didn't pick up on him sooner. All they needed to do is have fake migrant shopping around for a lift to the uk. Were the police told to stand down until now. Now Starmer will milk it for the credit. One of his buddies will set up another gang leader and cycle will carry on, cause and effect. " This particular supply chain and warehousing of dinghies has been known about for years, and each country in the chain has chosen to look the other way. So something has changed, but what exactly is unclear. A Labour government? Fear in Europe of Trump? A trend to the right wing in Europe? Who knows? But it's as step in the right direction. | |||
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"Great news this foreign criminal has been arrested in a foreign country by foreign police. Clearly this would not have happened if the Tories were in office. Well done SKS, just a matter of time for the boats to stop. Keep the red flag flying You are aware that boats are still crossing? Just a matter of time for SKS to stop them. He is fresh from being instrumental in this foreign criminal being arrested by foreign police who clearly had no idea until SKS showed them what to do. It's the closest he has to success so we must not be dismissive So have they arrested all the people from all the gangs. It sounded like it was 1 guy from 1 gang, probably not even close to being the leader of the gang." I thought arresting criminals was good news?? | |||
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"Great news this foreign criminal has been arrested in a foreign country by foreign police. Clearly this would not have happened if the Tories were in office. Well done SKS, just a matter of time for the boats to stop. Keep the red flag flying You are aware that boats are still crossing? Just a matter of time for SKS to stop them. He is fresh from being instrumental in this foreign criminal being arrested by foreign police who clearly had no idea until SKS showed them what to do. It's the closest he has to success so we must not be dismissive" The NCA is British | |||
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"These ‘support structures’ are grossly exaggerated by these evil gangs to encourage these poor people to give them money and risk their lives. That is why smashing the gangs is so important In another thread you spent all of your time telling us that the immigration issue wasn't important, and that only a small minority cared about it. What changed? Nothing, I thought you would be happy, even though this isn’t a priority labour are still delivering Now you're contradicting your own posts in the same thread. Which is it? Is it important like you said a couple of hours ago, or not a priority like you've just said? No contradiction, read my last post again Be careful everyone because I've noticed these posts have a habit of disappearing just like that "Exactly, the snitch amongst us, who can it be. | |||
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"Another significant arrest made today, SKS and labour delivering on their promise to ‘smash the gangs’ . Although this isn’t a top priority it’s great to see these evil gangs seeing justice, it’s also good to see close cooperation with out EU friends and neighbours " What do you mean "another"? As far as I'm aware it's the first one. One every 4 months. Smashing! | |||
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"Another significant arrest made today, SKS and labour delivering on their promise to ‘smash the gangs’ . Although this isn’t a top priority it’s great to see these evil gangs seeing justice, it’s also good to see close cooperation with out EU friends and neighbours What do you mean "another"? As far as I'm aware it's the first one. One every 4 months. Smashing!" It’s a good start, arresting criminals is definitely a positive | |||
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"Another significant arrest made today, SKS and labour delivering on their promise to ‘smash the gangs’ . Although this isn’t a top priority it’s great to see these evil gangs seeing justice, it’s also good to see close cooperation with out EU friends and neighbours What do you mean "another"? As far as I'm aware it's the first one. One every 4 months. Smashing! It’s a good start, arresting criminals is definitely a positive" Agreed, one is better than none, but they've hardly hit the ground running. Maybe the next one will be our Christmas present. Or Easter Egg. | |||
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"If it's so significant, name the gang that got arrested?" People smuggling gang | |||
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"Another significant arrest made today, SKS and labour delivering on their promise to ‘smash the gangs’ . Although this isn’t a top priority it’s great to see these evil gangs seeing justice, it’s also good to see close cooperation with out EU friends and neighbours What do you mean "another"? As far as I'm aware it's the first one. One every 4 months. Smashing! It’s a good start, arresting criminals is definitely a positive Agreed, one is better than none, but they've hardly hit the ground running. Maybe the next one will be our Christmas present. Or Easter Egg." Maybe, maybe not, I am struggling to see why people are criticising, arresting criminals is definitely a good thing | |||
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"You mean the NCA, along with their Belgian and Dutch counterparts have made this possible. Fuck all to do with SKS or Labour. It didn't even happen in this country. The NCA is from the UK I'm aware of where the NCA are based. It's still fuck all to do with Labour or SKS. It’s great news, only 4 months into the job and they have already started smashing the gangs Seriously mate, you need to drop it. Yes, it's great news. It can't be attributed to SKS. You're forever moaning that bad things that happen are being attributed to SKS yet here you are doing the same, in the opposite direction. Give your head a wobble. Hi there. Thanks for your input, I am entitled to my opinion , you to yours, You are giving it as fact, not opinion. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, though if facts say your opinion is wrong, you really should take them on board. That is your opinion, not fact , It is a fact that the guy was arrested in Amsterdam by Dutch police. With the assistance of the NCA Does SKS control the operarion of the NCA? It comes under government control , the home office I think you'll find they are operationally independent. Unless you're saying otherwise? Correct. Incorrect, “The NCA was established by the Crime and Courts Act in 2013. We are a non-ministerial civil service department , operationally independent and accountable to Parliament thorough the Home Secretary.”. Operationally independent. Ie, they are not run or instructed by the Home Secretary. The other poster was correct, they are operationally independent, so their operation had nothing to do with SKS. They work under the Home Secretary, she has the power to appoint or sack the director general , she has the ultimate power " The Home Secretary does not instruct or manage their operations. They are operationally independent. So claiming their work as direct successes of the PM or HS is nonsense | |||
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"Another significant arrest made today, SKS and labour delivering on their promise to ‘smash the gangs’ . Although this isn’t a top priority it’s great to see these evil gangs seeing justice, it’s also good to see close cooperation with out EU friends and neighbours What do you mean "another"? As far as I'm aware it's the first one. One every 4 months. Smashing! It’s a good start, arresting criminals is definitely a positive Agreed, one is better than none, but they've hardly hit the ground running. Maybe the next one will be our Christmas present. Or Easter Egg. Maybe, maybe not, I am struggling to see why people are criticising, arresting criminals is definitely a good thing " Who is criticising the arrest? Please show me which post says that | |||
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"Someone was protecting the guy, that's who they need to arrest. Meanwhile migrants are still crossing. Again it will only be effective when it stops totally. I don't have a problem with genuine cases but at the moment bad people are riding on the back of good to get into this country and some can do alot of harm. " Yes, pray for a winter of high winds, high storms and high seas | |||
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"Another significant arrest made today, SKS and labour delivering on their promise to ‘smash the gangs’ . Although this isn’t a top priority it’s great to see these evil gangs seeing justice, it’s also good to see close cooperation with out EU friends and neighbours What do you mean "another"? As far as I'm aware it's the first one. One every 4 months. Smashing! It’s a good start, arresting criminals is definitely a positive" The “good start” they you are claiming has absolutely nothing to do with government initiative. I know that you are desperate to claim any positive outcome as a massive achievement for labour, but please keep it real. | |||
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"Someone was protecting the guy, that's who they need to arrest. Meanwhile migrants are still crossing. Again it will only be effective when it stops totally. I don't have a problem with genuine cases but at the moment bad people are riding on the back of good to get into this country and some can do alot of harm. Yes, pray for a winter of high winds, high storms and high seas" Why? | |||
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"Someone was protecting the guy, that's who they need to arrest. Meanwhile migrants are still crossing. Again it will only be effective when it stops totally. I don't have a problem with genuine cases but at the moment bad people are riding on the back of good to get into this country and some can do alot of harm. Yes, pray for a winter of high winds, high storms and high seas" Why? | |||
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"Someone was protecting the guy, that's who they need to arrest. Meanwhile migrants are still crossing. Again it will only be effective when it stops totally. I don't have a problem with genuine cases but at the moment bad people are riding on the back of good to get into this country and some can do alot of harm. Yes, pray for a winter of high winds, high storms and high seas Why?" Perfect deterrent | |||
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"Someone was protecting the guy, that's who they need to arrest. Meanwhile migrants are still crossing. Again it will only be effective when it stops totally. I don't have a problem with genuine cases but at the moment bad people are riding on the back of good to get into this country and some can do alot of harm. Yes, pray for a winter of high winds, high storms and high seas" Fair enough, less crossings, better results for labour , more time to smash those gangs | |||
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"If it's so significant, name the gang that got arrested?" The black hole gang | |||
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"Oh ok obviously you guys don't know what the gang is which is fine. I guess also you Labour lovers are gonna make a song and dance about the economy growing by 0.1% since Labour came in government " Why is the gangs name important? | |||
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"Someone was protecting the guy, that's who they need to arrest. Meanwhile migrants are still crossing. Again it will only be effective when it stops totally. I don't have a problem with genuine cases but at the moment bad people are riding on the back of good to get into this country and some can do alot of harm. Yes, pray for a winter of high winds, high storms and high seas Why? Perfect deterrent " To what, people harassing brown skinned folk in Scotland? | |||
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"Another significant arrest made today, SKS and labour delivering on their promise to ‘smash the gangs’ . Although this isn’t a top priority it’s great to see these evil gangs seeing justice, it’s also good to see close cooperation with out EU friends and neighbours What do you mean "another"? As far as I'm aware it's the first one. One every 4 months. Smashing! It’s a good start, arresting criminals is definitely a positive Agreed, one is better than none, but they've hardly hit the ground running. Maybe the next one will be our Christmas present. Or Easter Egg. Maybe, maybe not, I am struggling to see why people are criticising, arresting criminals is definitely a good thing " I'm not criticising the arrest of one. I'm criticising that it is ONLY one. | |||
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"Another significant arrest made today, SKS and labour delivering on their promise to ‘smash the gangs’ . Although this isn’t a top priority it’s great to see these evil gangs seeing justice, it’s also good to see close cooperation with out EU friends and neighbours What do you mean "another"? As far as I'm aware it's the first one. One every 4 months. Smashing! It’s a good start, arresting criminals is definitely a positive Agreed, one is better than none, but they've hardly hit the ground running. Maybe the next one will be our Christmas present. Or Easter Egg. Maybe, maybe not, I am struggling to see why people are criticising, arresting criminals is definitely a good thing I'm not criticising the arrest of one. I'm criticising that it is ONLY one." Fair enough, smalls steps and all that | |||
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"Someone was protecting the guy, that's who they need to arrest. Meanwhile migrants are still crossing. Again it will only be effective when it stops totally. I don't have a problem with genuine cases but at the moment bad people are riding on the back of good to get into this country and some can do alot of harm. Yes, pray for a winter of high winds, high storms and high seas Why? Perfect deterrent " I think you underestimate the desperation of the people involved. | |||
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"If it's so significant, name the gang that got arrested? The black hole gang" Labour? | |||
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"Oh ok obviously you guys don't know what the gang is which is fine. I guess also you Labour lovers are gonna make a song and dance about the economy growing by 0.1% since Labour came in government Why is the gangs name important? " Major gangs usually have names. | |||
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"Another significant arrest made today, SKS and labour delivering on their promise to ‘smash the gangs’ . Although this isn’t a top priority it’s great to see these evil gangs seeing justice, it’s also good to see close cooperation with out EU friends and neighbours What do you mean "another"? As far as I'm aware it's the first one. One every 4 months. Smashing! It’s a good start, arresting criminals is definitely a positive Agreed, one is better than none, but they've hardly hit the ground running. Maybe the next one will be our Christmas present. Or Easter Egg. Maybe, maybe not, I am struggling to see why people are criticising, arresting criminals is definitely a good thing I'm not criticising the arrest of one. I'm criticising that it is ONLY one. Fair enough, smalls steps and all that " Glad to see that you admit that it is a small step | |||
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"Oh ok obviously you guys don't know what the gang is which is fine. I guess also you Labour lovers are gonna make a song and dance about the economy growing by 0.1% since Labour came in government Why is the gangs name important? Major gangs usually have names. " Maybe they do, why is it important they are named? | |||
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"Another significant arrest made today, SKS and labour delivering on their promise to ‘smash the gangs’ . Although this isn’t a top priority it’s great to see these evil gangs seeing justice, it’s also good to see close cooperation with out EU friends and neighbours What do you mean "another"? As far as I'm aware it's the first one. One every 4 months. Smashing! It’s a good start, arresting criminals is definitely a positive Agreed, one is better than none, but they've hardly hit the ground running. Maybe the next one will be our Christmas present. Or Easter Egg. Maybe, maybe not, I am struggling to see why people are criticising, arresting criminals is definitely a good thing I'm not criticising the arrest of one. I'm criticising that it is ONLY one. Fair enough, smalls steps and all that Glad to see that you admit that it is a small step " One step forward is better that one step back, | |||
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"Oh ok obviously you guys don't know what the gang is which is fine. I guess also you Labour lovers are gonna make a song and dance about the economy growing by 0.1% since Labour came in government Why is the gangs name important? Major gangs usually have names. Maybe they do, why is it important they are named? " I’m guessing that the other poster felt that if the gang was well known, then it might be a named gang. As it is, the arrest seems to be of one bloke who supplies engines … | |||
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"Another significant arrest made today, SKS and labour delivering on their promise to ‘smash the gangs’ . Although this isn’t a top priority it’s great to see these evil gangs seeing justice, it’s also good to see close cooperation with out EU friends and neighbours What do you mean "another"? As far as I'm aware it's the first one. One every 4 months. Smashing! It’s a good start, arresting criminals is definitely a positive Agreed, one is better than none, but they've hardly hit the ground running. Maybe the next one will be our Christmas present. Or Easter Egg. Maybe, maybe not, I am struggling to see why people are criticising, arresting criminals is definitely a good thing I'm not criticising the arrest of one. I'm criticising that it is ONLY one. Fair enough, smalls steps and all that Glad to see that you admit that it is a small step One step forward is better that one step back, " I agree. But let’s not pretend it’s a huge step. | |||
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"Oh ok obviously you guys don't know what the gang is which is fine. I guess also you Labour lovers are gonna make a song and dance about the economy growing by 0.1% since Labour came in government Why is the gangs name important? Major gangs usually have names. Maybe they do, why is it important they are named? I’m guessing that the other poster felt that if the gang was well known, then it might be a named gang. As it is, the arrest seems to be of one bloke who supplies engines … " You can’t cross the channel in a boat without an engine | |||
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"… and let’s not pretend that it’s “sir keir and labour delivering on their promise”. The arrest has nothing to do with any government initiative " I am not going down this road again, the NCA , border control, uk police all helped with this arrest, they are all funded government departments | |||
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"Oh ok obviously you guys don't know what the gang is which is fine. I guess also you Labour lovers are gonna make a song and dance about the economy growing by 0.1% since Labour came in government Why is the gangs name important? Major gangs usually have names. Maybe they do, why is it important they are named? I’m guessing that the other poster felt that if the gang was well known, then it might be a named gang. As it is, the arrest seems to be of one bloke who supplies engines … You can’t cross the channel in a boat without an engine " Yes you can. I know people who have rowed, paddled and swum across the channel. But arresting an engine supplier, while positive, does not constitute “smashing” a gang. Doesn’t appear to be a “gang” at all, seems to be one individual | |||
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"… and let’s not pretend that it’s “sir keir and labour delivering on their promise”. The arrest has nothing to do with any government initiative " Should we just congratulate the arresting officer? | |||
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"Oh ok obviously you guys don't know what the gang is which is fine. I guess also you Labour lovers are gonna make a song and dance about the economy growing by 0.1% since Labour came in government Why is the gangs name important? Major gangs usually have names. Maybe they do, why is it important they are named? I’m guessing that the other poster felt that if the gang was well known, then it might be a named gang. As it is, the arrest seems to be of one bloke who supplies engines … You can’t cross the channel in a boat without an engine Yes you can. I know people who have rowed, paddled and swum across the channel. But arresting an engine supplier, while positive, does not constitute “smashing” a gang. Doesn’t appear to be a “gang” at all, seems to be one individual " Who supplied engines to people smugglers, | |||
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"… and let’s not pretend that it’s “sir keir and labour delivering on their promise”. The arrest has nothing to do with any government initiative I am not going down this road again, the NCA , border control, uk police all helped with this arrest, they are all funded government departments " Correct. But the government do not instruct them, they are operationally independent. This arrest is not linked, in any way, to any initiative by sir Keir. | |||
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"Oh ok obviously you guys don't know what the gang is which is fine. I guess also you Labour lovers are gonna make a song and dance about the economy growing by 0.1% since Labour came in government Why is the gangs name important? Major gangs usually have names. Maybe they do, why is it important they are named? I’m guessing that the other poster felt that if the gang was well known, then it might be a named gang. As it is, the arrest seems to be of one bloke who supplies engines … You can’t cross the channel in a boat without an engine Yes you can. I know people who have rowed, paddled and swum across the channel. But arresting an engine supplier, while positive, does not constitute “smashing” a gang. Doesn’t appear to be a “gang” at all, seems to be one individual Who supplied engines to people smugglers, " Yeah, I know. One bloke, not a gang. | |||
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"… and let’s not pretend that it’s “sir keir and labour delivering on their promise”. The arrest has nothing to do with any government initiative I am not going down this road again, the NCA , border control, uk police all helped with this arrest, they are all funded government departments Correct. But the government do not instruct them, they are operationally independent. This arrest is not linked, in any way, to any initiative by sir Keir. " SkS is the head of the government, these are government funded and run departments, if they fuck up he gets the blame, if they do well he gets the credit, politics | |||
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"Oh ok obviously you guys don't know what the gang is which is fine. I guess also you Labour lovers are gonna make a song and dance about the economy growing by 0.1% since Labour came in government Why is the gangs name important? Major gangs usually have names. Maybe they do, why is it important they are named? I’m guessing that the other poster felt that if the gang was well known, then it might be a named gang. As it is, the arrest seems to be of one bloke who supplies engines … You can’t cross the channel in a boat without an engine Yes you can. I know people who have rowed, paddled and swum across the channel. But arresting an engine supplier, while positive, does not constitute “smashing” a gang. Doesn’t appear to be a “gang” at all, seems to be one individual " Won’t someone else already have stepped in to replace this part of the supply chain? They will probably just charge more for the slightly increased risk. If people want to keep coming across and are willing to hand over some cash someone will supply the demand. | |||
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"… and let’s not pretend that it’s “sir keir and labour delivering on their promise”. The arrest has nothing to do with any government initiative I am not going down this road again, the NCA , border control, uk police all helped with this arrest, they are all funded government departments Correct. But the government do not instruct them, they are operationally independent. This arrest is not linked, in any way, to any initiative by sir Keir. SkS is the head of the government, these are government funded and run departments, if they fuck up he gets the blame, if they do well he gets the credit, politics " I disagree. He gets credit for his actions and initiatives. And no, it is not “government run”. You seem to be struggling to understand this point. They are operationally independent. Look up their website for further info | |||
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"… and let’s not pretend that it’s “sir keir and labour delivering on their promise”. The arrest has nothing to do with any government initiative I am not going down this road again, the NCA , border control, uk police all helped with this arrest, they are all funded government departments Correct. But the government do not instruct them, they are operationally independent. This arrest is not linked, in any way, to any initiative by sir Keir. SkS is the head of the government, these are government funded and run departments, if they fuck up he gets the blame, if they do well he gets the credit, politics I disagree. He gets credit for his actions and initiatives. And no, it is not “government run”. You seem to be struggling to understand this point. They are operationally independent. Look up their website for further info " They fall under the Home Secretary, the director general reports to her , the Home Secretary also appointed him, they are definitely government funded , they are operational independent of the home office, not the Home Secretary | |||
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"Brilliant, I can take credit for my grandchildrens work because I'm the reason they exist. Go me and my achievements " Yeah that appears to be the logic. | |||
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"… and let’s not pretend that it’s “sir keir and labour delivering on their promise”. The arrest has nothing to do with any government initiative I am not going down this road again, the NCA , border control, uk police all helped with this arrest, they are all funded government departments Correct. But the government do not instruct them, they are operationally independent. This arrest is not linked, in any way, to any initiative by sir Keir. SkS is the head of the government, these are government funded and run departments, if they fuck up he gets the blame, if they do well he gets the credit, politics I disagree. He gets credit for his actions and initiatives. And no, it is not “government run”. You seem to be struggling to understand this point. They are operationally independent. Look up their website for further info They fall under the Home Secretary, the director general reports to her , the Home Secretary also appointed him, they are definitely government funded , they are operational independent of the home office, not the Home Secretary " They are operationally independent of the Home Sec. The home sec does not set their priorities, workload, caseload. They operate independently. | |||
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"That's why Keir Starmer will never get credit for smashing any gang because he isnt" Maybe he will, maybe he won’t. But in the meantime, Dutch police arresting one bloke does not equate to SKS “smashing the gangs”. We have yet to even hear what his plan is for smashing gangs. He must have one though, cos he told us he had. | |||
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"… and let’s not pretend that it’s “sir keir and labour delivering on their promise”. The arrest has nothing to do with any government initiative I am not going down this road again, the NCA , border control, uk police all helped with this arrest, they are all funded government departments Correct. But the government do not instruct them, they are operationally independent. This arrest is not linked, in any way, to any initiative by sir Keir. SkS is the head of the government, these are government funded and run departments, if they fuck up he gets the blame, if they do well he gets the credit, politics I disagree. He gets credit for his actions and initiatives. And no, it is not “government run”. You seem to be struggling to understand this point. They are operationally independent. Look up their website for further info They fall under the Home Secretary, the director general reports to her , the Home Secretary also appointed him, they are definitely government funded , they are operational independent of the home office, not the Home Secretary They are operationally independent of the Home Sec. The home sec does not set their priorities, workload, caseload. They operate independently. " She doesn’t set those in the police either, she appoints the director general, he reports to her, she is his boss | |||
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"That's why Keir Starmer will never get credit for smashing any gang because he isnt" Because he isn't what? | |||
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"… and let’s not pretend that it’s “sir keir and labour delivering on their promise”. The arrest has nothing to do with any government initiative I am not going down this road again, the NCA , border control, uk police all helped with this arrest, they are all funded government departments Correct. But the government do not instruct them, they are operationally independent. This arrest is not linked, in any way, to any initiative by sir Keir. SkS is the head of the government, these are government funded and run departments, if they fuck up he gets the blame, if they do well he gets the credit, politics I disagree. He gets credit for his actions and initiatives. And no, it is not “government run”. You seem to be struggling to understand this point. They are operationally independent. Look up their website for further info They fall under the Home Secretary, the director general reports to her , the Home Secretary also appointed him, they are definitely government funded , they are operational independent of the home office, not the Home Secretary They are operationally independent of the Home Sec. The home sec does not set their priorities, workload, caseload. They operate independently. She doesn’t set those in the police either, she appoints the director general, he reports to her, she is his boss " So if she / sks don’t instruct the police in any way, why are you claiming that this arrest is a significant result for SKS? | |||
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"They fall under the Home Secretary, the director general reports to her , the Home Secretary also appointed him, they are definitely government funded , they are operational independent of the home office, not the Home Secretary " I look forward to hearing Labour explain why they've made such a mess of HS2. That's also government funded, and therefore also their responsibility. If they're going to take credit for arrests made in the past, I'm sure they'll also take the blame for project failure made in the past. | |||
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"That's why Keir Starmer will never get credit for smashing any gang because he isnt Because he isn't what?" I took that post to mean that SKS isn’t going to get credit for something he hasn’t actually done | |||
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