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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage." Good news, another sensible decision by labour, | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, " Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? " It will provide cheaper, cleaner energy . The North Sea oil production has been declining for years, and is predicted to decline further due to the aging oil basin and the fact the remaining oil is difficult she expensive to extract. Green ever will provide new jobs to replace the old oil and gas jobs . Green energy is the future in the UK oil and gas is the past, | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It will provide cheaper, cleaner energy . The North Sea oil production has been declining for years, and is predicted to decline further due to the aging oil basin and the fact the remaining oil is difficult she expensive to extract. Green ever will provide new jobs to replace the old oil and gas jobs . Green energy is the future in the UK oil and gas is the past, " Understood in a longterm view, but right now we have Apache withdrawing from North Sea oil production along with lost revenue that is going to be ridiculously hard to mitigate against. Transition should be considered and strategic not arbitrary, increasing the production revenue tax to 75% has now ended investment and with it energy security, I should imagine. | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It will provide cheaper, cleaner energy . The North Sea oil production has been declining for years, and is predicted to decline further due to the aging oil basin and the fact the remaining oil is difficult she expensive to extract. Green ever will provide new jobs to replace the old oil and gas jobs . Green energy is the future in the UK oil and gas is the past, Understood in a longterm view, but right now we have Apache withdrawing from North Sea oil production along with lost revenue that is going to be ridiculously hard to mitigate against. Transition should be considered and strategic not arbitrary, increasing the production revenue tax to 75% has now ended investment and with it energy security, I should imagine. " With all these companies quitting the UK due to the windfall tax, where does the money come from to replace it? I thought it was to help fund the transition but if you force away the companies then you loose the revenue. | |||
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. " Chill, it’s the will of the people, | |||
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. Chill, it’s the will of the people, " Is it? Were people told clearly in a manifesto what labour would do? As for chill, people will chill alright but not the way you think . | |||
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"“Green jobs”. Anyone with any serious technical skills will go and work in the oil industry abroad, so will be lost to the UK economy and another country will benefit. Anyone with fewer skills and less ambition will hang around and transfer to a lower skill and lower paid job, get a government funded job, or pack in work earlier than intended."  | |||
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. Chill, it’s the will of the people, Is it? Were people told clearly in a manifesto what labour would do? As for chill, people will chill alright but not the way you think ." Green energy in the UK is the future, I know change can sometimes be scary and confusing but it’s for the best . You can’t stop progress | |||
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"Liebour the woke lefties dream , I have $h1t better mps than they have in parliament, and that's coming from a X union man " Reform voter? | |||
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"“Green jobs”. Anyone with any serious technical skills will go and work in the oil industry abroad, so will be lost to the UK economy and another country will benefit. Anyone with fewer skills and less ambition will hang around and transfer to a lower skill and lower paid job, get a government funded job, or pack in work earlier than intended. "Liking your own posts now! Amazing. Why do you think it takes less skill to work at renewable energy sites than at fossil fuels energy generation plants? | |||
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"Liebour the woke lefties dream , I have $h1t better mps than they have in parliament, and that's coming from a X union man " Is understanding climate science now woke? Yet another bizarre personal definition to add to the log. | |||
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"Green energy in the UK is the future, I know change can sometimes be scary and confusing but it’s for the best . You can’t stop progress " it certainly is the future. my businesses have maxed out on the available renewable contracts since july at the moment. we're currently looking to expand, so we're advertising for experienced subbies from spain so we can cash in further. there's geese laying golden eggs all over the shop  | |||
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"Liebour the woke lefties dream , I have $h1t better mps than they have in parliament, and that's coming from a X union man Reform voter? " What if he is? What do you care? | |||
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. Chill, it’s the will of the people, Is it? Were people told clearly in a manifesto what labour would do? As for chill, people will chill alright but not the way you think . Green energy in the UK is the future, I know change can sometimes be scary and confusing but it’s for the best . You can’t stop progress " There's nothing " green " about green energy. All those wonderful car batteries , solar panels and wind turbines are anything but green. | |||
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. Chill, it’s the will of the people, Is it? Were people told clearly in a manifesto what labour would do? As for chill, people will chill alright but not the way you think . Green energy in the UK is the future, I know change can sometimes be scary and confusing but it’s for the best . You can’t stop progress There's nothing " green " about green energy. All those wonderful car batteries , solar panels and wind turbines are anything but green." and all the infrastructure for charging stations alone | |||
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. Chill, it’s the will of the people, Is it? Were people told clearly in a manifesto what labour would do? As for chill, people will chill alright but not the way you think . Green energy in the UK is the future, I know change can sometimes be scary and confusing but it’s for the best . You can’t stop progress There's nothing " green " about green energy. All those wonderful car batteries , solar panels and wind turbines are anything but green.and all the infrastructure for charging stations alone " Those wonderful electric cars that stop working when it gets too cold because the batteries drain. The same batteries that cannot be recycled and are dumped in landfills. I particularly appreciate the way the scotch the earth with H2SO4 to get out the minerals to make the batteries and solar panels and in the process destroy entire ecosystems. Very green. | |||
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. Chill, it’s the will of the people, Is it? Were people told clearly in a manifesto what labour would do? As for chill, people will chill alright but not the way you think . Green energy in the UK is the future, I know change can sometimes be scary and confusing but it’s for the best . You can’t stop progress There's nothing " green " about green energy. All those wonderful car batteries , solar panels and wind turbines are anything but green.and all the infrastructure for charging stations alone " Oh I forgot, EV battery production has a considerable carbon footprint. Not that I give a toss about carbon but some on here are terrified of it. | |||
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. Chill, it’s the will of the people, Is it? Were people told clearly in a manifesto what labour would do? As for chill, people will chill alright but not the way you think . Green energy in the UK is the future, I know change can sometimes be scary and confusing but it’s for the best . You can’t stop progress There's nothing " green " about green energy. All those wonderful car batteries , solar panels and wind turbines are anything but green.and all the infrastructure for charging stations alone Oh I forgot, EV battery production has a considerable carbon footprint. Not that I give a toss about carbon but some on here are terrified of it." Again, just reading up on the basics would stop you being so angry and confused. It's been suggested many times, so I don't really know why you insist on being so grossly misinformed. In the time it takes you to make ten climate science denying posts on here, you could learn something about it. | |||
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" Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE." that's fantastic news | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage." And in the mean time we will Inport more and the cost to the consumer will carry on going up. It will also increase the cost to trade inflation could go up again. | |||
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" There's nothing " green " about green energy. All those wonderful car batteries , solar panels and wind turbines are anything but green." So, in other words, the source of the energy might be green but the conversion technology is far from so? | |||
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. Chill, it’s the will of the people, Is it? Were people told clearly in a manifesto what labour would do? As for chill, people will chill alright but not the way you think . Green energy in the UK is the future, I know change can sometimes be scary and confusing but it’s for the best . You can’t stop progress There's nothing " green " about green energy. All those wonderful car batteries , solar panels and wind turbines are anything but green.and all the infrastructure for charging stations alone Oh I forgot, EV battery production has a considerable carbon footprint. Not that I give a toss about carbon but some on here are terrified of it." Manufacturing an EV Battery takes around 14 gallons equivalent in diesel - bit a lot of CO2 was emitted producing it! Then a lifetime of very low emissions at 0.235kg per equivalent gallon (45 miles) compared to petrol at 13kg and diesel 14kg. 14 gallons to manufacture and a fraction over its lifetime. Solar Panels last 25yrs to 80% output and are they being crushed to recycle!? No, many are ending up in African Villages who've never had the privilege of electricity. Cobalt? How much Cobalt is used to de-sulphur fossil fuels at refineries? Sorry but having 65kwh of battery storage, 7kwp of Solar, 12kw Inverters - I only offload from Grid when CO2 is low, run the house on 6.5p per kwh electricity all day and drive 5000 miles on £180's worth of electricity. Oh, the EV has had 50% of its charge from the roof over Summer too. Currently charging batteries overnight to run Air Conditioning for heating at 1.3p per equivalent kwh to boiler - how much is Gas? Yet guys try to claim this technology won't save money or the Climate. Maybe, instead of reading scary press stories, conspiracy and other utter nonsense- they should try it. Energy Bill worries? I have none and 6 months of the 2022 Crisis, September until March £120 was the Energy bill. | |||
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"Given that the UK will continue to need considerable volumes of fossil fuels during the energy transition, there are three disadvantages to deterring future domestic oil and gas production by excessive taxation and by ending the issue of exploration licences. 1) The revenue stream which would have been provided by a realistic tax regime will cease. 2) Security of supply will be diminished by increased reliance on imports. 3) Imports via shipborne transport (but not by pipeline) have a higher carbon footprint than domestic production because of the fuel consumed during shipping."
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. Chill, it’s the will of the people, Is it? Were people told clearly in a manifesto what labour would do? As for chill, people will chill alright but not the way you think . Green energy in the UK is the future, I know change can sometimes be scary and confusing but it’s for the best . You can’t stop progress There's nothing " green " about green energy. All those wonderful car batteries , solar panels and wind turbines are anything but green.and all the infrastructure for charging stations alone Oh I forgot, EV battery production has a considerable carbon footprint. Not that I give a toss about carbon but some on here are terrified of it. Manufacturing an EV Battery takes around 14 gallons equivalent in diesel - bit a lot of CO2 was emitted producing it! Then a lifetime of very low emissions at 0.235kg per equivalent gallon (45 miles) compared to petrol at 13kg and diesel 14kg. 14 gallons to manufacture and a fraction over its lifetime. Solar Panels last 25yrs to 80% output and are they being crushed to recycle!? No, many are ending up in African Villages who've never had the privilege of electricity. Cobalt? How much Cobalt is used to de-sulphur fossil fuels at refineries? Sorry but having 65kwh of battery storage, 7kwp of Solar, 12kw Inverters - I only offload from Grid when CO2 is low, run the house on 6.5p per kwh electricity all day and drive 5000 miles on £180's worth of electricity. Oh, the EV has had 50% of its charge from the roof over Summer too. Currently charging batteries overnight to run Air Conditioning for heating at 1.3p per equivalent kwh to boiler - how much is Gas? Yet guys try to claim this technology won't save money or the Climate. Maybe, instead of reading scary press stories, conspiracy and other utter nonsense- they should try it. Energy Bill worries? I have none and 6 months of the 2022 Crisis, September until March £120 was the Energy bill. " install cost? | |||
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"Given that the UK will continue to need considerable volumes of fossil fuels during the energy transition, there are three disadvantages to deterring future domestic oil and gas production by excessive taxation and by ending the issue of exploration licences. 1) The revenue stream which would have been provided by a realistic tax regime will cease. 2) Security of supply will be diminished by increased reliance on imports. 3) Imports via shipborne transport (but not by pipeline) have a higher carbon footprint than domestic production because of the fuel consumed during shipping." We've been doing this since the 80s. There has to be movement at some point. | |||
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"Another Looney decision made by the Looney party I mean Labour " Are they "loony" because they're not pushing as hard as the Tories to prioritise fossil fuel company profits over the price of energy long term and the environment? | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage." Good they should pay the most. | |||
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. Chill, it’s the will of the people, Is it? Were people told clearly in a manifesto what labour would do? As for chill, people will chill alright but not the way you think . Green energy in the UK is the future, I know change can sometimes be scary and confusing but it’s for the best . You can’t stop progress There's nothing " green " about green energy. All those wonderful car batteries , solar panels and wind turbines are anything but green.and all the infrastructure for charging stations alone Oh I forgot, EV battery production has a considerable carbon footprint. Not that I give a toss about carbon but some on here are terrified of it. Manufacturing an EV Battery takes around 14 gallons equivalent in diesel - bit a lot of CO2 was emitted producing it! Then a lifetime of very low emissions at 0.235kg per equivalent gallon (45 miles) compared to petrol at 13kg and diesel 14kg. 14 gallons to manufacture and a fraction over its lifetime. Solar Panels last 25yrs to 80% output and are they being crushed to recycle!? No, many are ending up in African Villages who've never had the privilege of electricity. Cobalt? How much Cobalt is used to de-sulphur fossil fuels at refineries? Sorry but having 65kwh of battery storage, 7kwp of Solar, 12kw Inverters - I only offload from Grid when CO2 is low, run the house on 6.5p per kwh electricity all day and drive 5000 miles on £180's worth of electricity. Oh, the EV has had 50% of its charge from the roof over Summer too. Currently charging batteries overnight to run Air Conditioning for heating at 1.3p per equivalent kwh to boiler - how much is Gas? Yet guys try to claim this technology won't save money or the Climate. Maybe, instead of reading scary press stories, conspiracy and other utter nonsense- they should try it. Energy Bill worries? I have none and 6 months of the 2022 Crisis, September until March £120 was the Energy bill. install cost? " Probably around 30k for the solar installation and at least 25k for the car. | |||
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. Chill, it’s the will of the people, Is it? Were people told clearly in a manifesto what labour would do? As for chill, people will chill alright but not the way you think . Green energy in the UK is the future, I know change can sometimes be scary and confusing but it’s for the best . You can’t stop progress There's nothing " green " about green energy. All those wonderful car batteries , solar panels and wind turbines are anything but green.and all the infrastructure for charging stations alone Oh I forgot, EV battery production has a considerable carbon footprint. Not that I give a toss about carbon but some on here are terrified of it. Manufacturing an EV Battery takes around 14 gallons equivalent in diesel - bit a lot of CO2 was emitted producing it! Then a lifetime of very low emissions at 0.235kg per equivalent gallon (45 miles) compared to petrol at 13kg and diesel 14kg. 14 gallons to manufacture and a fraction over its lifetime. Solar Panels last 25yrs to 80% output and are they being crushed to recycle!? No, many are ending up in African Villages who've never had the privilege of electricity. Cobalt? How much Cobalt is used to de-sulphur fossil fuels at refineries? Sorry but having 65kwh of battery storage, 7kwp of Solar, 12kw Inverters - I only offload from Grid when CO2 is low, run the house on 6.5p per kwh electricity all day and drive 5000 miles on £180's worth of electricity. Oh, the EV has had 50% of its charge from the roof over Summer too. Currently charging batteries overnight to run Air Conditioning for heating at 1.3p per equivalent kwh to boiler - how much is Gas? Yet guys try to claim this technology won't save money or the Climate. Maybe, instead of reading scary press stories, conspiracy and other utter nonsense- they should try it. Energy Bill worries? I have none and 6 months of the 2022 Crisis, September until March £120 was the Energy bill. install cost? Probably around 30k for the solar installation and at least 25k for the car. " 65kw of storage plus inverters and panels? No chance its 30k. | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage." Not sure which version of national grid live you're looking at but those figures are total nonsense. Fossil fuels were 28.8% of generation last year with renewables (wind, solar and hydro) at 37.7%. I suspect you've remembered figures that are years out of date - rather like the rest of your argument. P | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Not sure which version of national grid live you're looking at but those figures are total nonsense. Fossil fuels were 28.8% of generation last year with renewables (wind, solar and hydro) at 37.7%. I suspect you've remembered figures that are years out of date - rather like the rest of your argument. P" I have seen figures that state renewables provide 43 % | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Not sure which version of national grid live you're looking at but those figures are total nonsense. Fossil fuels were 28.8% of generation last year with renewables (wind, solar and hydro) at 37.7%. I suspect you've remembered figures that are years out of date - rather like the rest of your argument. P I have seen figures that state renewables provide 43 % " I was using the source quoted - National Grid Live and their division over the last year. They do not include biomass as a renewable source - in my opinion the correct approach given that a lot of it comes from clear fell of virgin forest. They show biomass as 7.2% over the last year taking that renewable figure up around 45%. P | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Not sure which version of national grid live you're looking at but those figures are total nonsense. Fossil fuels were 28.8% of generation last year with renewables (wind, solar and hydro) at 37.7%. I suspect you've remembered figures that are years out of date - rather like the rest of your argument. P I have seen figures that state renewables provide 43 % I was using the source quoted - National Grid Live and their division over the last year. They do not include biomass as a renewable source - in my opinion the correct approach given that a lot of it comes from clear fell of virgin forest. They show biomass as 7.2% over the last year taking that renewable figure up around 45%. P" Fair enough | |||
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" solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. " I should have picked up on this bit also. Over the last year, solar supplied 5% of our national electricity usage - a figure that is growing rapidly. A significant part of this growth is because many large companies of the sort you claim are going to be put off investing in Britain, are realising that their acres of factory roof space make such investments seriously worthwhile with a great ROI When you express such clearly biased opinions based on zero knowledge it seriously undermines everything else you say. P | |||
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" solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. I should have picked up on this bit also. Over the last year, solar supplied 5% of our national electricity usage - a figure that is growing rapidly. A significant part of this growth is because many large companies of the sort you claim are going to be put off investing in Britain, are realising that their acres of factory roof space make such investments seriously worthwhile with a great ROI When you express such clearly biased opinions based on zero knowledge it seriously undermines everything else you say. P" To add to this, our local hospital has invested in a local solar farm with the payback to the NHS expected to be a few years. P | |||
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"This current weather, cloudy and no wind means no renewable energy , so we are burning natural gas and importing electricity from the continent. I'm a farmer and to power a biggish tractor 150 hp, would need a 10kw charge for 10 hours to do one hours work! Who's going to pay to upgrade the grid throughout rural Wales? A 2500 liter tank of diesel is at 50 % efficiency of a diesel engine stores the energy equivalent to 10kw ,24hours a day for 43days...we the public are being fooled big time...and net zero CO2?, impossible, it's plant food, we need more not any less in the atmosphere.." Solar panels work when it’s cloudy | |||
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"This is why this net zero idea is ludicrous, we don't get enough wind and sunshine to generate enough power" Indeed. The only viable way is with Geothermal power stations. The wind doesn't need to blow nor the sun shine,and the only waste produced is steam, and as the earth is constantly creating heat deep underground it would be foolish not to use the free source of heat to turn the power station turbines. | |||
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" solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. I should have picked up on this bit also. Over the last year, solar supplied 5% of our national electricity usage - a figure that is growing rapidly. A significant part of this growth is because many large companies of the sort you claim are going to be put off investing in Britain, are realising that their acres of factory roof space make such investments seriously worthwhile with a great ROI When you express such clearly biased opinions based on zero knowledge it seriously undermines everything else you say. P" Bentley motors in my town have covered their factory roof and all the staff car parking shelters in solar panels. They have added electric charging points on the car park. | |||
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"This current weather, cloudy and no wind means no renewable energy , so we are burning natural gas and importing electricity from the continent. I'm a farmer and to power a biggish tractor 150 hp, would need a 10kw charge for 10 hours to do one hours work! Who's going to pay to upgrade the grid throughout rural Wales? A 2500 liter tank of diesel is at 50 % efficiency of a diesel engine stores the energy equivalent to 10kw ,24hours a day for 43days...we the public are being fooled big time...and net zero CO2?, impossible, it's plant food, we need more not any less in the atmosphere.." An interesting answer - with unusually good grasp of science for a climate change denier. Your figures are a bit wonky though. No one is using the full power of their tractor continuously, so your charge time, whilst correct if you were to run at max power continuously is not really true in real life. Also, there's no tractor on the planet that's running at anywhere close 50% thermal efficiency. This aside, you do make a valuable point, we are quite some way off the energy density required to run large plant machines from portable batteries. Admitting this doesn't mean that we will never get there and it certainly doesn't mean that we should not bother trying. I really don't understand why there are so many people prepared to dismiss any attempt to adopt new technology simply because it doesn't do what they need right now. Imaginr the same attitude applied in the past, "there's no point building that canal, without another over there it's a waste of time" or. "Why are you messing about with that steam engine, there's not enough wood to burn around here, it'll run out of fuel in a week" etc etc. Sure, we may be some way off a useful electric tractor but so what? Does that really mean we should just give up on designing all electric vehicles? There's just no logic in this argument. Energy storage is the biggest hindrance to adopting renewables, if/when we solve this issue the fluctuations of wind and solar cease to be an issue. Hydrogen is a favourite quoted by many, mostly because large oil companies are spending an awful lot of money to push it as they know the majority of it comes from their oil. That aside, it may turn out to be the answer to running machinery like tractors though it is worth remembering it is a very inefficient way to do so. Or were may develop better battery technology who knows? Your point about CO^2 being plant food and needing more of it is patently nonsense. Plants have grown just fine for millennia and the scientific community is unanimous about the harm that will be caused by higher levels of CO^2. P | |||
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"This is why this net zero idea is ludicrous, we don't get enough wind and sunshine to generate enough power" We do. Reading up about renewable energy will solve your confusion. | |||
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"This current weather, cloudy and no wind means no renewable energy , so we are burning natural gas and importing electricity from the continent. I'm a farmer and to power a biggish tractor 150 hp, would need a 10kw charge for 10 hours to do one hours work! Who's going to pay to upgrade the grid throughout rural Wales? A 2500 liter tank of diesel is at 50 % efficiency of a diesel engine stores the energy equivalent to 10kw ,24hours a day for 43days...we the public are being fooled big time...and net zero CO2?, impossible, it's plant food, we need more not any less in the atmosphere.." You understand "net zero CO2" doesn't mean there will be no CO2 in the atmosphere. It means we won't be adding any more. | |||
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"This is why this net zero idea is ludicrous, we don't get enough wind and sunshine to generate enough power" Don't we? There is far more solar and wind power available than we would ever need. There's an estimated 2.2TW of offshore wind available for the UK - more than 60 times what we use at the moment. The issue is renewables are intermittent. We can scale up supply relatively easily, we don't yet have the tech to store it for use when and where it is needed. | |||
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"This is why this net zero idea is ludicrous, we don't get enough wind and sunshine to generate enough power Don't we? There is far more solar and wind power available than we would ever need. There's an estimated 2.2TW of offshore wind available for the UK - more than 60 times what we use at the moment. The issue is renewables are intermittent. We can scale up supply relatively easily, we don't yet have the tech to store it for use when and where it is needed." The answer to storage is realistically a multitude of solutions. Such as pumped storage at Dinorwig Power Station, compressed air, hydrogen storage. | |||
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"This is why this net zero idea is ludicrous, we don't get enough wind and sunshine to generate enough power Don't we? There is far more solar and wind power available than we would ever need. There's an estimated 2.2TW of offshore wind available for the UK - more than 60 times what we use at the moment. The issue is renewables are intermittent. We can scale up supply relatively easily, we don't yet have the tech to store it for use when and where it is needed. The answer to storage is realistically a multitude of solutions. Such as pumped storage at Dinorwig Power Station, compressed air, hydrogen storage." Yes - Dinorwig is a truly impressive feat of engineering and was a case study for many topics as part of my engineering degree. The total amount it stores though is comparatively small. There's another pumped storage station a little way south and a few in Scotland but these will never have the capacity required and there are limited locations available to build them. In general I agree with the need for a composite solution, I'm just suggesting we are a lot further off building this than we are installing renewable generating capacity. Another big storage solution is EV's themselves. Sell them with bigger batteries and the ability to output that charge (a few do already). This enables people to charge their vehicles on windy/sunny days at cheap rates and use the stored power to run their homes or even sell back to the grid. Millions of EV's around the country represent a massive distributed storage facility. The only downside is the potential social issues on what effectively becomes a poor tax. People with the money to buy powerful EV's with home chargers get to access cheap power, even make money buying and selling the stuff, those without pay top price. Energy pricing is going to need significant changes to help the move to net zero as it is the only incentive that will change people's habits but it will need doing with care to ensure it is equitable. | |||
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" solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. I should have picked up on this bit also. Over the last year, solar supplied 5% of our national electricity usage - a figure that is growing rapidly. A significant part of this growth is because many large companies of the sort you claim are going to be put off investing in Britain, are realising that their acres of factory roof space make such investments seriously worthwhile with a great ROI When you express such clearly biased opinions based on zero knowledge it seriously undermines everything else you say. P To add to this, our local hospital has invested in a local solar farm with the payback to the NHS expected to be a few years. P" and what land is thia solar farm on? Arable farm land by any chance? | |||
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" solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. I should have picked up on this bit also. Over the last year, solar supplied 5% of our national electricity usage - a figure that is growing rapidly. A significant part of this growth is because many large companies of the sort you claim are going to be put off investing in Britain, are realising that their acres of factory roof space make such investments seriously worthwhile with a great ROI When you express such clearly biased opinions based on zero knowledge it seriously undermines everything else you say. P To add to this, our local hospital has invested in a local solar farm with the payback to the NHS expected to be a few years. Pand what land is thia solar farm on? Arable farm land by any chance? " No. Old disused scrubland. I believe it was some kind of heavy industry back in the day. | |||
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"This is why this net zero idea is ludicrous, we don't get enough wind and sunshine to generate enough power Don't we? There is far more solar and wind power available than we would ever need. There's an estimated 2.2TW of offshore wind available for the UK - more than 60 times what we use at the moment. The issue is renewables are intermittent. We can scale up supply relatively easily, we don't yet have the tech to store it for use when and where it is needed. The answer to storage is realistically a multitude of solutions. Such as pumped storage at Dinorwig Power Station, compressed air, hydrogen storage. Yes - Dinorwig is a truly impressive feat of engineering and was a case study for many topics as part of my engineering degree. The total amount it stores though is comparatively small. There's another pumped storage station a little way south and a few in Scotland but these will never have the capacity required and there are limited locations available to build them. In general I agree with the need for a composite solution, I'm just suggesting we are a lot further off building this than we are installing renewable generating capacity. Another big storage solution is EV's themselves. Sell them with bigger batteries and the ability to output that charge (a few do already). This enables people to charge their vehicles on windy/sunny days at cheap rates and use the stored power to run their homes or even sell back to the grid. Millions of EV's around the country represent a massive distributed storage facility. The only downside is the potential social issues on what effectively becomes a poor tax. People with the money to buy powerful EV's with home chargers get to access cheap power, even make money buying and selling the stuff, those without pay top price. Energy pricing is going to need significant changes to help the move to net zero as it is the only incentive that will change people's habits but it will need doing with care to ensure it is equitable. " All good points. To expand on that, reduction in usage, changing patterns for when we use energy, implementing efficiencies, residential & commercial energy generation from solar too. It's all part of the puzzle. | |||
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"You understand "net zero CO2" doesn't mean there will be no CO2 in the atmosphere. It means we won't be adding any more. It doesn't mean that. But since you're a scientist, I'm sure you're just simplifying it for the little people." .....anymore net. How's that? Not sure why you're calling climate science deniers "little". I don't presume to know their size. | |||
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. Chill, it’s the will of the people, Is it? Were people told clearly in a manifesto what labour would do? As for chill, people will chill alright but not the way you think . Green energy in the UK is the future, I know change can sometimes be scary and confusing but it’s for the best . You can’t stop progress There's nothing " green " about green energy. All those wonderful car batteries , solar panels and wind turbines are anything but green.and all the infrastructure for charging stations alone Oh I forgot, EV battery production has a considerable carbon footprint. Not that I give a toss about carbon but some on here are terrified of it. Manufacturing an EV Battery takes around 14 gallons equivalent in diesel - bit a lot of CO2 was emitted producing it! Then a lifetime of very low emissions at 0.235kg per equivalent gallon (45 miles) compared to petrol at 13kg and diesel 14kg. 14 gallons to manufacture and a fraction over its lifetime. Solar Panels last 25yrs to 80% output and are they being crushed to recycle!? No, many are ending up in African Villages who've never had the privilege of electricity. Cobalt? How much Cobalt is used to de-sulphur fossil fuels at refineries? Sorry but having 65kwh of battery storage, 7kwp of Solar, 12kw Inverters - I only offload from Grid when CO2 is low, run the house on 6.5p per kwh electricity all day and drive 5000 miles on £180's worth of electricity. Oh, the EV has had 50% of its charge from the roof over Summer too. Currently charging batteries overnight to run Air Conditioning for heating at 1.3p per equivalent kwh to boiler - how much is Gas? Yet guys try to claim this technology won't save money or the Climate. Maybe, instead of reading scary press stories, conspiracy and other utter nonsense- they should try it. Energy Bill worries? I have none and 6 months of the 2022 Crisis, September until March £120 was the Energy bill. install cost? Probably around 30k for the solar installation and at least 25k for the car. " Is your storage in side the house or External.. | |||
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. Chill, it’s the will of the people, Is it? Were people told clearly in a manifesto what labour would do? As for chill, people will chill alright but not the way you think . Green energy in the UK is the future, I know change can sometimes be scary and confusing but it’s for the best . You can’t stop progress There's nothing " green " about green energy. All those wonderful car batteries , solar panels and wind turbines are anything but green.and all the infrastructure for charging stations alone Oh I forgot, EV battery production has a considerable carbon footprint. Not that I give a toss about carbon but some on here are terrified of it. Manufacturing an EV Battery takes around 14 gallons equivalent in diesel - bit a lot of CO2 was emitted producing it! Then a lifetime of very low emissions at 0.235kg per equivalent gallon (45 miles) compared to petrol at 13kg and diesel 14kg. 14 gallons to manufacture and a fraction over its lifetime. Solar Panels last 25yrs to 80% output and are they being crushed to recycle!? No, many are ending up in African Villages who've never had the privilege of electricity. Cobalt? How much Cobalt is used to de-sulphur fossil fuels at refineries? Sorry but having 65kwh of battery storage, 7kwp of Solar, 12kw Inverters - I only offload from Grid when CO2 is low, run the house on 6.5p per kwh electricity all day and drive 5000 miles on £180's worth of electricity. Oh, the EV has had 50% of its charge from the roof over Summer too. Currently charging batteries overnight to run Air Conditioning for heating at 1.3p per equivalent kwh to boiler - how much is Gas? Yet guys try to claim this technology won't save money or the Climate. Maybe, instead of reading scary press stories, conspiracy and other utter nonsense- they should try it. Energy Bill worries? I have none and 6 months of the 2022 Crisis, September until March £120 was the Energy bill. install cost? Probably around 30k for the solar installation and at least 25k for the car. 65kw of storage plus inverters and panels? No chance its 30k. " 25k for a car is very cheep my van was 35k and bot battery? | |||
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"You understand "net zero CO2" doesn't mean there will be no CO2 in the atmosphere. It means we won't be adding any more." "It doesn't mean that. But since you're a scientist, I'm sure you're just simplifying it for the little people." ".....anymore net. How's that?" Incomprehensible. I assume there's some sort of spelling error in the above post. | |||
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"You understand "net zero CO2" doesn't mean there will be no CO2 in the atmosphere. It means we won't be adding any more." "It doesn't mean that. But since you're a scientist, I'm sure you're just simplifying it for the little people." ".....anymore net. How's that?" Ah! Got it, you meant "won't be adding any more net". No that's not it. We will probably continue to increase the amount of actual CO2 in the atmosphere, even when we're at net zero. With your knowledge of climate change science, I'm sure you know how that is done. | |||
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"Industry is fleeing Europe because our energy costs are so high. More renewables may cut co2 but they will also push energy prices even higher. If you want an industry free Europe with collapsing standards of living, knock yourself out with a couple of Solar panels on the shed roof. I suspect voters will think otherwise and 'net zero' will soon be politically toxic." Any figures to support that claim? Have you looked at telephone generating costs? Any idea why China is leading the world in renewable energy if it's so expensive? | |||
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"You understand "net zero CO2" doesn't mean there will be no CO2 in the atmosphere. It means we won't be adding any more. It doesn't mean that. But since you're a scientist, I'm sure you're just simplifying it for the little people. .....anymore net. How's that? Ah! Got it, you meant "won't be adding any more net". No that's not it. We will probably continue to increase the amount of actual CO2 in the atmosphere, even when we're at net zero. With your knowledge of climate change science, I'm sure you know how that is done." Actually, the other chap is right. It means there will be no CO2 in the atmosphere and plants will die. | |||
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"Industry is fleeing Europe because our energy costs are so high. More renewables may cut co2 but they will also push energy prices even higher. If you want an industry free Europe with collapsing standards of living, knock yourself out with a couple of Solar panels on the shed roof. I suspect voters will think otherwise and 'net zero' will soon be politically toxic. Any figures to support that claim? Have you looked at telephone generating costs? Any idea why China is leading the world in renewable energy if it's so expensive?" Do I look like your researcher ?  | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It will provide cheaper, cleaner energy . The North Sea oil production has been declining for years, and is predicted to decline further due to the aging oil basin and the fact the remaining oil is difficult she expensive to extract. Green ever will provide new jobs to replace the old oil and gas jobs . Green energy is the future in the UK oil and gas is the past, " There is no short/ medium term plan in place for green energy. Just some aspirations. Killing the existing sources without a full replacement in place is disastrous | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It will provide cheaper, cleaner energy . The North Sea oil production has been declining for years, and is predicted to decline further due to the aging oil basin and the fact the remaining oil is difficult she expensive to extract. Green ever will provide new jobs to replace the old oil and gas jobs . Green energy is the future in the UK oil and gas is the past, There is no short/ medium term plan in place for green energy. Just some aspirations. Killing the existing sources without a full replacement in place is disastrous " We've been dawdling for about 40 years. How much longer before we should do something? | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It will provide cheaper, cleaner energy . The North Sea oil production has been declining for years, and is predicted to decline further due to the aging oil basin and the fact the remaining oil is difficult she expensive to extract. Green ever will provide new jobs to replace the old oil and gas jobs . Green energy is the future in the UK oil and gas is the past, There is no short/ medium term plan in place for green energy. Just some aspirations. Killing the existing sources without a full replacement in place is disastrous We've been dawdling for about 40 years. How much longer before we should do something?" Greenhouse gas emissions have fallen by over 30% in EU since 1990, hardly doing nothing. But also pointless when China increases its emissions by far more each year. | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It will provide cheaper, cleaner energy . The North Sea oil production has been declining for years, and is predicted to decline further due to the aging oil basin and the fact the remaining oil is difficult she expensive to extract. Green ever will provide new jobs to replace the old oil and gas jobs . Green energy is the future in the UK oil and gas is the past, There is no short/ medium term plan in place for green energy. Just some aspirations. Killing the existing sources without a full replacement in place is disastrous We've been dawdling for about 40 years. How much longer before we should do something?" Make a plan then. But don’t ditch the existing option prematurely and end up with a self-inflicted problem | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It will provide cheaper, cleaner energy . The North Sea oil production has been declining for years, and is predicted to decline further due to the aging oil basin and the fact the remaining oil is difficult she expensive to extract. Green ever will provide new jobs to replace the old oil and gas jobs . Green energy is the future in the UK oil and gas is the past, There is no short/ medium term plan in place for green energy. Just some aspirations. Killing the existing sources without a full replacement in place is disastrous We've been dawdling for about 40 years. How much longer before we should do something? Greenhouse gas emissions have fallen by over 30% in EU since 1990, hardly doing nothing. But also pointless when China increases its emissions by far more each year." Great news, so why shouldn't we continue this good work? China is investing billions in renewable power generation. Plus per head of population, we're not far behind them with CO2 emissions per head of population. | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It will provide cheaper, cleaner energy . The North Sea oil production has been declining for years, and is predicted to decline further due to the aging oil basin and the fact the remaining oil is difficult she expensive to extract. Green ever will provide new jobs to replace the old oil and gas jobs . Green energy is the future in the UK oil and gas is the past, There is no short/ medium term plan in place for green energy. Just some aspirations. Killing the existing sources without a full replacement in place is disastrous We've been dawdling for about 40 years. How much longer before we should do something? Make a plan then. But don’t ditch the existing option prematurely and end up with a self-inflicted problem " My plan is to dawdle for another 40 years. Make sure oil companies make as much profit as humanly possible. Deepen our reliance on externally priced oil and gas. Pump more CO2 into the atmosphere. Increase energy prices for consumers in the long term. How's that? | |||
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"Exactly Jimmy. A balanced transition is perfectly possible. Unfortunately we take our energy advice from unstable Swedish teenagers whose greatest achievement was not going to school." … and politicians then compete to see who can sound the best, while coming up with flimsy vague “plans”. | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It will provide cheaper, cleaner energy . The North Sea oil production has been declining for years, and is predicted to decline further due to the aging oil basin and the fact the remaining oil is difficult she expensive to extract. Green ever will provide new jobs to replace the old oil and gas jobs . Green energy is the future in the UK oil and gas is the past, There is no short/ medium term plan in place for green energy. Just some aspirations. Killing the existing sources without a full replacement in place is disastrous We've been dawdling for about 40 years. How much longer before we should do something? Make a plan then. But don’t ditch the existing option prematurely and end up with a self-inflicted problem My plan is to dawdle for another 40 years. Make sure oil companies make as much profit as humanly possible. Deepen our reliance on externally priced oil and gas. Pump more CO2 into the atmosphere. Increase energy prices for consumers in the long term. How's that? " Ah, Fab logic … pretend the only other option is a daft extreme. I’m suggesting a proper, well-managed, balanced transition. | |||
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"Fantastic news .... green industry and big-tech is about to relocate to europe to escape the damaging policies of trumperica. this massive brain drain relocation, particularly to britain, will supercharge the de-escalation of fossil fuels. "Spot on, Labour are delivering their manifesto and delivering for the electorate | |||
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"Fantastic news .... green industry and big-tech is about to relocate to europe to escape the damaging policies of trumperica. this massive brain drain relocation, particularly to britain, will supercharge the de-escalation of fossil fuels. "
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"Fantastic news .... green industry and big-tech is about to relocate to europe to escape the damaging policies of trumperica. this massive brain drain relocation, particularly to britain, will supercharge the de-escalation of fossil fuels.
Oh please."It’s happening, wind baby wind | |||
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"Fantastic news .... green industry and big-tech is about to relocate to europe to escape the damaging policies of trumperica. this massive brain drain relocation, particularly to britain, will supercharge the de-escalation of fossil fuels.
Oh please.
It’s happening, wind baby wind "that’s definitely what your full of wind lol | |||
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"Fantastic news .... green industry and big-tech is about to relocate to europe to escape the damaging policies of trumperica. this massive brain drain relocation, particularly to britain, will supercharge the de-escalation of fossil fuels.
Oh please.
It’s happening, wind baby wind that’s definitely what your full of wind lol"Haha, good one | |||
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"Fantastic news .... green industry and big-tech is about to relocate to europe to escape the damaging policies of trumperica. this massive brain drain relocation, particularly to britain, will supercharge the de-escalation of fossil fuels.
Oh please.
It’s happening, wind baby wind that’s definitely what your full of wind lol
Haha, good one "couldn’t resist left ye self wide open lol | |||
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"Fantastic news .... green industry and big-tech is about to relocate to europe to escape the damaging policies of trumperica. this massive brain drain relocation, particularly to britain, will supercharge the de-escalation of fossil fuels.
Oh please.
It’s happening, wind baby wind that’s definitely what your full of wind lol
Haha, good one couldn’t resist left ye self wide open lol"Indeed, it was a tap in for a man of your undoubted wit , well played | |||
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"Industry is fleeing Europe because our energy costs are so high. More renewables may cut co2 but they will also push energy prices even higher. If you want an industry free Europe with collapsing standards of living, knock yourself out with a couple of Solar panels on the shed roof. I suspect voters will think otherwise and 'net zero' will soon be politically toxic. Any figures to support that claim? Have you looked at electricity generating costs? Any idea why China is leading the world in renewable energy if it's so expensive? Do I look like your researcher ? "Ahhh, now I know understand how you make clearly false claims with such confidence. You simple decide what to believe, quote it as truth, refuse to question your beliefs or even verify them and then post them on the internet. Lifecycle costs of onshore and offshore wind as well as solar are all massively cheaper than using gas. On top of that you remove our dependence on volatile international market pricing. | |||
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"It's going to be fascinating to see how our grid copes with millions of people plugging their cars into charge overnight. There will be no sun, so no solar, if there's no wind then there'll be no wind. We haven't enough nuclear so no fission energy. Not sure but I suspect the grid will collapse. There's also the added problem of EV batteries draining in cold weather. I suspect, but I'm not sure,the government will have to flip on the gas power stations again. Well, unless they're all closed down. I wonder how many old folk, sick folk and poor folk will kick off the first winter the government tries this? As usual the elites will tell us it's for our own good and the usual ones, you know the ones, who clapped the NHS and queued up to get a ' booster',will happily agree. Interesting times. " Alternatively, millions of people check the forecast, see that Tuesday is sunny and Wednesday night is windy, plan to charge their vehicles at those times for significantly reduced prices then, on Thursday, when there is no wind and it's cloudy, they plug their car in and draw power back to run their home thus using cheap green energy even when there is no wind or sun and helping match demand to supply? Do you honestly believe you're the only person in the country with the foresight to see that an intermittent source of power is going to require careful planning, engineering solutions, pricing incentives and a whole raft of other mechanisms to ensure the lights stay on? I get that it's usual in these parts to pour scorn and vitriol at politicians we don't agree with but it does amaze me just how much confidence people have in their own opinions set against their absolute certainty that anyone who things differently is so utterly incompetent. | |||
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"Nuclear energy baby all the way lets go " | |||
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"Nuclear energy baby all the way lets go
"So how would you powe air craft. And I don't see ships going g over to Nuclear any time soon but they could. But what would be the cost? And it would be consumers how pay for it in the end.. Where do you think solar panels come from and get to the UK | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It will provide cheaper, cleaner energy . The North Sea oil production has been declining for years, and is predicted to decline further due to the aging oil basin and the fact the remaining oil is difficult she expensive to extract. Green ever will provide new jobs to replace the old oil and gas jobs . Green energy is the future in the UK oil and gas is the past, There is no short/ medium term plan in place for green energy. Just some aspirations. Killing the existing sources without a full replacement in place is disastrous We've been dawdling for about 40 years. How much longer before we should do something? Make a plan then. But don’t ditch the existing option prematurely and end up with a self-inflicted problem My plan is to dawdle for another 40 years. Make sure oil companies make as much profit as humanly possible. Deepen our reliance on externally priced oil and gas. Pump more CO2 into the atmosphere. Increase energy prices for consumers in the long term. How's that? Ah, Fab logic … pretend the only other option is a daft extreme. I’m suggesting a proper, well-managed, balanced transition. " Balanced transition sounds good. But we need to get a move on. | |||
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"Industry is fleeing Europe because our energy costs are so high. More renewables may cut co2 but they will also push energy prices even higher. If you want an industry free Europe with collapsing standards of living, knock yourself out with a couple of Solar panels on the shed roof. I suspect voters will think otherwise and 'net zero' will soon be politically toxic. Any figures to support that claim? Have you looked at electricity generating costs? Any idea why China is leading the world in renewable energy if it's so expensive? Do I look like your researcher ?
Ahhh, now I know understand how you make clearly false claims with such confidence. You simple decide what to believe, quote it as truth, refuse to question your beliefs or even verify them and then post them on the internet.
Lifecycle costs of onshore and offshore wind as well as solar are all massively cheaper than using gas. On top of that you remove our dependence on volatile international market pricing.
"We don’t have sufficient offshore wind or solar power in place though, so still need oil and gas. Can wean ourselves off fossil fuels when the other sources become viable options. Until then … | |||
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"Industry is fleeing Europe because our energy costs are so high. More renewables may cut co2 but they will also push energy prices even higher. If you want an industry free Europe with collapsing standards of living, knock yourself out with a couple of Solar panels on the shed roof. I suspect voters will think otherwise and 'net zero' will soon be politically toxic. Any figures to support that claim? Have you looked at electricity generating costs? Any idea why China is leading the world in renewable energy if it's so expensive? Do I look like your researcher ?
Ahhh, now I know understand how you make clearly false claims with such confidence. You simple decide what to believe, quote it as truth, refuse to question your beliefs or even verify them and then post them on the internet.
Lifecycle costs of onshore and offshore wind as well as solar are all massively cheaper than using gas. On top of that you remove our dependence on volatile international market pricing.
We don’t have sufficient offshore wind or solar power in place though, so still need oil and gas.
Can wean ourselves off fossil fuels when the other sources become viable options.
Until then … "That's why we need more renewable energy generation. They're already viable. Just need more of them. | |||
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"Industry is fleeing Europe because our energy costs are so high. More renewables may cut co2 but they will also push energy prices even higher. If you want an industry free Europe with collapsing standards of living, knock yourself out with a couple of Solar panels on the shed roof. I suspect voters will think otherwise and 'net zero' will soon be politically toxic. Any figures to support that claim? Have you looked at electricity generating costs? Any idea why China is leading the world in renewable energy if it's so expensive? Do I look like your researcher ?
Ahhh, now I know understand how you make clearly false claims with such confidence. You simple decide what to believe, quote it as truth, refuse to question your beliefs or even verify them and then post them on the internet.
Lifecycle costs of onshore and offshore wind as well as solar are all massively cheaper than using gas. On top of that you remove our dependence on volatile international market pricing.
We don’t have sufficient offshore wind or solar power in place though, so still need oil and gas.
Can wean ourselves off fossil fuels when the other sources become viable options.
Until then …
That's why we need more renewable energy generation.
They're already viable. Just need more of them."So how do you think should pay for ghat investment you.. | |||
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"It's going to be fascinating to see how our grid copes with millions of people plugging their cars into charge overnight. There will be no sun, so no solar, if there's no wind then there'll be no wind. We haven't enough nuclear so no fission energy. Not sure but I suspect the grid will collapse. There's also the added problem of EV batteries draining in cold weather. I suspect, but I'm not sure,the government will have to flip on the gas power stations again. Well, unless they're all closed down. I wonder how many old folk, sick folk and poor folk will kick off the first winter the government tries this? As usual the elites will tell us it's for our own good and the usual ones, you know the ones, who clapped the NHS and queued up to get a ' booster',will happily agree. Interesting times. Alternatively, millions of people check the forecast, see that Tuesday is sunny and Wednesday night is windy, plan to charge their vehicles at those times for significantly reduced prices then, on Thursday, when there is no wind and it's cloudy, they plug their car in and draw power back to run their home thus using cheap green energy even when there is no wind or sun and helping match demand to supply? Do you honestly believe you're the only person in the country with the foresight to see that an intermittent source of power is going to require careful planning, engineering solutions, pricing incentives and a whole raft of other mechanisms to ensure the lights stay on? I get that it's usual in these parts to pour scorn and vitriol at politicians we don't agree with but it does amaze me just how much confidence people have in their own opinions set against their absolute certainty that anyone who things differently is so utterly incompetent. "Welcome to the politics forum. | |||
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"Industry is fleeing Europe because our energy costs are so high. More renewables may cut co2 but they will also push energy prices even higher. If you want an industry free Europe with collapsing standards of living, knock yourself out with a couple of Solar panels on the shed roof. I suspect voters will think otherwise and 'net zero' will soon be politically toxic. Any figures to support that claim? Have you looked at electricity generating costs? Any idea why China is leading the world in renewable energy if it's so expensive? Do I look like your researcher ?
Ahhh, now I know understand how you make clearly false claims with such confidence. You simple decide what to believe, quote it as truth, refuse to question your beliefs or even verify them and then post them on the internet.
Lifecycle costs of onshore and offshore wind as well as solar are all massively cheaper than using gas. On top of that you remove our dependence on volatile international market pricing.
We don’t have sufficient offshore wind or solar power in place though, so still need oil and gas.
Can wean ourselves off fossil fuels when the other sources become viable options.
Until then …
That's why we need more renewable energy generation.
They're already viable. Just need more of them.
So how do you think should pay for ghat investment you.."Are you asking who? Government, private companies, if fossil fuels companies didn't receive $7 trillion a year, they might invest in something more profitable like wind turbines, hydro electric plants, etc. | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont" Net zero start by grounding air craft, then stop the shipping 5,500 container ships, don't know much abut cruises. But container ships burn about 500 liters an hour makes cars small change. Even buses and lorrys use more why start with the thin end of a weadge.. | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont" Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. | |||
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"Where do you think solar panels come from and get to the UK " well personally speaking, the panels we install come from a factory just north of Cardiff .... checkmate!  | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). You have looked at National Grid Live then gas is 56.5% now and renewable is 16% So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. " How do you not just look at this where did you get 37.7% from | |||
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"Where do you think solar panels come from and get to the UK well personally speaking, the panels we install come from a factory just north of Cardiff .... checkmate! "And the materials they use to assembly them come in on container shis witch are powerd by ??? I looked at solar for at home and for my property it did not work could not generate enough to make it pay would take to long to get the money back.. | |||
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"Where do you think solar panels come from and get to the UK well personally speaking, the panels we install come from a factory just north of Cardiff .... checkmate!
And the materials they use to assembly them come in on container shis witch are powerd by ???
I looked at solar for at home and for my property it did not work could not generate enough to make it pay would take to long to get the money back..
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"Where do you think solar panels come from and get to the UK well personally speaking, the panels we install come from a factory just north of Cardiff .... checkmate!
And the materials they use to assembly them come in on container shis witch are powerd by ???
I looked at solar for at home and for my property it did not work could not generate enough to make it pay would take to long to get the money back..
get a bigger roof "Cheaper to buy electricity.. if I move I can't take the roof or the panels. It would not make a profit for 15 years and UK Soler only give a 30 warranty the battery pack might need changes after 7 yeas and now needs to external I believe and iv the enverter has a problem I lose all the benefits of the investment. | |||
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"Where do you think solar panels come from and get to the UK well personally speaking, the panels we install come from a factory just north of Cardiff .... checkmate!
And the materials they use to assembly them come in on container shis witch are powerd by ???
I looked at solar for at home and for my property it did not work could not generate enough to make it pay would take to long to get the money back..
get a bigger roof "How big can a battery now be. Is it 6000Ah | |||
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"Where do you think solar panels come from and get to the UK well personally speaking, the panels we install come from a factory just north of Cardiff .... checkmate!
And the materials they use to assembly them come in on container shis witch are powerd by ???
I looked at solar for at home and for my property it did not work could not generate enough to make it pay would take to long to get the money back..
get a bigger roof
Cheaper to buy electricity.. if I move I can't take the roof or the panels. It would not make a profit for 15 years and UK Soler only give a 30 warranty the battery pack might need changes after 7 yeas and now needs to external I believe and iv the enverter has a problem I lose all the benefits of the investment. "you're very very badly informed in that case ... which is a shame | |||
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"Where do you think solar panels come from and get to the UK well personally speaking, the panels we install come from a factory just north of Cardiff .... checkmate!
And the materials they use to assembly them come in on container shis witch are powerd by ???
I looked at solar for at home and for my property it did not work could not generate enough to make it pay would take to long to get the money back..
get a bigger roof
Cheaper to buy electricity.. if I move I can't take the roof or the panels. It would not make a profit for 15 years and UK Soler only give a 30 warranty the battery pack might need changes after 7 yeas and now needs to external I believe and iv the enverter has a problem I lose all the benefits of the investment.
you're very very badly informed in that case ... which is a shame"Tell me more that is what I was told last year when UK soler done a servay on the property. | |||
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"Where do you think solar panels come from and get to the UK well personally speaking, the panels we install come from a factory just north of Cardiff .... checkmate!
And the materials they use to assembly them come in on container shis witch are powerd by ???
I looked at solar for at home and for my property it did not work could not generate enough to make it pay would take to long to get the money back..
get a bigger roof
Cheaper to buy electricity.. if I move I can't take the roof or the panels. It would not make a profit for 15 years and UK Soler only give a 30 warranty the battery pack might need changes after 7 yeas and now needs to external I believe and iv the enverter has a problem I lose all the benefits of the investment.
you're very very badly informed in that case ... which is a shame"Do you install domestic or commercial This would be for my home. | |||
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"Where do you think solar panels come from and get to the UK well personally speaking, the panels we install come from a factory just north of Cardiff .... checkmate!
And the materials they use to assembly them come in on container shis witch are powerd by ???
I looked at solar for at home and for my property it did not work could not generate enough to make it pay would take to long to get the money back..
get a bigger roof
Cheaper to buy electricity.. if I move I can't take the roof or the panels. It would not make a profit for 15 years and UK Soler only give a 30 warranty the battery pack might need changes after 7 yeas and now needs to external I believe and iv the enverter has a problem I lose all the benefits of the investment.
you're very very badly informed in that case ... which is a shame
Do you install domestic or commercial
This would be for my home."10% domestic (because house bashing is a faff... just friends and family)) 40% commercial and 50% industrial (because the profits are enormous) | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. " This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. | |||
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"Where do you think solar panels come from and get to the UK well personally speaking, the panels we install come from a factory just north of Cardiff .... checkmate!
And the materials they use to assembly them come in on container shis witch are powerd by ???
I looked at solar for at home and for my property it did not work could not generate enough to make it pay would take to long to get the money back..
get a bigger roof
Cheaper to buy electricity.. if I move I can't take the roof or the panels. It would not make a profit for 15 years and UK Soler only give a 30 warranty the battery pack might need changes after 7 yeas and now needs to external I believe and iv the enverter has a problem I lose all the benefits of the investment.
you're very very badly informed in that case ... which is a shame
Do you install domestic or commercial
This would be for my home.
10% domestic (because house bashing is a faff... just friends and family)) 40% commercial and 50% industrial (because the profits are enormous)"Sorry is that just installing solar in those properties or normal electrical work. Am also a sparks only go commercial hence got someone to price soler on my place. Like I said the cost was to grate for little return. | |||
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"We priced up going energy off grid , solar heat pumps log burner with a back boiler as a bck up and the total install was 75k it would take 25 year to oay for itself providing it never broke " That sounds about right I have a log burner and a back boiler that has never seen water as the regulations are now so complicated no one wants to do the heating part and then you look at soler in to the heating as well for hot water in the summer and they add a ZERO. would just take to long to pay for it self. | |||
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"We priced up going energy off grid , solar heat pumps log burner with a back boiler as a bck up and the total install was 75k it would take 25 year to oay for itself providing it never broke That sounds about right I have a log burner and a back boiler that has never seen water as the regulations are now so complicated no one wants to do the heating part and then you look at soler in to the heating as well for hot water in the summer and they add a ZERO. would just take to long to pay for it self." we plan on building eventually on some land we have and we will go down that route there as the mains connections for gas and leccy will balance out the solar ect install costs but not in this house | |||
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"These labour morons will make us a backwater and the lights will go out. Chill, it’s the will of the people, " no, the will of 20% of the people. | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). You have looked at National Grid Live then gas is 56.5% now and renewable is 16% So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. How do you not just look at this where did you get 37.7% from " National grid statistics. National grid live. I don't understand the first part of the question. | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. " At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. | |||
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"You are falling for the expected tbh for how many decades as companies like this got away with tax breaks upon tax breaks,making excessive profits on the back of rest of society. 14 years of tories let them get away with it Labour proposed windfall taxes ago tories said no. We have a state of where people have to rely on foodbanks just to SURVIVE. It sickens me that folk moan about businesses like this and say fk all about foodbanks. Likes of Amazon, Facebook offer hmrc what they feel is fair and hmrc accept, imagine a self employed plumber saying to hmrc hey guys i will pay you 20 quid is that ok. Now onto non dom disgrace again labour and others have said all along it should be abolished yet tories ignored it esp galling was Rishi Sunaks wife. Only when they knew it was a vote they mentioned it. Windfall tax,Non Dom etc should have happened long time ago. Look at money taxpayers give to water companies yet they pollute rivers etc and hide it. Then they get begging bowl out for more they do nothing except fleece folk struggling and for decades did so Windfall is based on excessive profits, rightly so. How anyone can fall for the false tears the mentioned businesses are shedding beats me" Sorry what is the point of the post. Non doms tax them more and they move more over sea look at Sir Jacky Stuart as an example. Wind fall on energy and companies pull out of the uk to avoid the tax. Then the uk imports more foren gas and pays more for it. And yes the working person gets poorer. In crease NI and the costs from companies will go up and get passed on to consumers, same as above working person worse off. Consum less and reuse what you can like in the old days. We will go backwards. In my opinion. Does any one need to heat there home NO its a luxury did not have it 50 years ago. | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. " Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now " I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. | |||
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"Where do you think solar panels come from and get to the UK well personally speaking, the panels we install come from a factory just north of Cardiff .... checkmate!
And the materials they use to assembly them come in on container shis witch are powerd by ???
I looked at solar for at home and for my property it did not work could not generate enough to make it pay would take to long to get the money back..
get a bigger roof
Cheaper to buy electricity.. if I move I can't take the roof or the panels. It would not make a profit for 15 years and UK Soler only give a 30 warranty the battery pack might need changes after 7 yeas and now needs to external I believe and iv the enverter has a problem I lose all the benefits of the investment.
you're very very badly informed in that case ... which is a shame
Do you install domestic or commercial
This would be for my home.
10% domestic (because house bashing is a faff... just friends and family)) 40% commercial and 50% industrial (because the profits are enormous)
Sorry is that just installing solar in those properties or normal electrical work.
Am also a sparks only go commercial hence got someone to price soler on my place. Like I said the cost was to grate for little return."i'm assuming you've done the 7671 then? | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. " Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. | |||
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"Where do you think solar panels come from and get to the UK well personally speaking, the panels we install come from a factory just north of Cardiff .... checkmate!
And the materials they use to assembly them come in on container shis witch are powerd by ???
I looked at solar for at home and for my property it did not work could not generate enough to make it pay would take to long to get the money back..
get a bigger roof
Cheaper to buy electricity.. if I move I can't take the roof or the panels. It would not make a profit for 15 years and UK Soler only give a 30 warranty the battery pack might need changes after 7 yeas and now needs to external I believe and iv the enverter has a problem I lose all the benefits of the investment.
you're very very badly informed in that case ... which is a shame
Do you install domestic or commercial
This would be for my home.
10% domestic (because house bashing is a faff... just friends and family)) 40% commercial and 50% industrial (because the profits are enormous)
Sorry is that just installing solar in those properties or normal electrical work.
Am also a sparks only go commercial hence got someone to price soler on my place. Like I said the cost was to grate for little return.
i'm assuming you've done the 7671 then?"Yes and c&g 2360 and test Hold part P and am a QS HNC. And the rest. And the industry is now shit. Do you still do MI, Conduit, singles, ladder, ETC | |||
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"If anyone is looking at fitting renewables please do a lot of research! The whole industry is now overrun with poor quality contractors looking for quick profits. Not only will they oversell the benefits, but they can also do a lot of damage to your property with poor installation. If it sounds too good to be true, it normally is. " Do you install or sell | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. " Long term, it will mean cheaper electricity for consumers. Education is an important part of the puzzle too. More people understanding climate change would mean more will to change. | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. Long term, it will mean cheaper electricity for consumers. Education is an important part of the puzzle too. More people understanding climate change would mean more will to change. " Depends on the person educating us about what you call climate change. A lot of clever people disagree with the government's green agenda. | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. Long term, it will mean cheaper electricity for consumers. Education is an important part of the puzzle too. More people understanding climate change would mean more will to change. " There not willing if there using food banks. You can educate them but if your on the bred line you want everything everyone else has but not the means. And where are you going to educate them the schools are falling apart... | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. Long term, it will mean cheaper electricity for consumers. Education is an important part of the puzzle too. More people understanding climate change would mean more will to change. Depends on the person educating us about what you call climate change. " Someone who understands climate change. " A lot of clever people disagree with the government's green agenda." This is an entirely different issue. And sure. Lots of clever people work in the fossil fuels industry. | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. Long term, it will mean cheaper electricity for consumers. Education is an important part of the puzzle too. More people understanding climate change would mean more will to change. " And if climate change is right we won't need heating. It's hot hear but the AC is good. | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. Long term, it will mean cheaper electricity for consumers. Education is an important part of the puzzle too. More people understanding climate change would mean more will to change. There not willing if there using food banks. You can educate them but if your on the bred line you want everything everyone else has but not the means. " If course. But people who can afford small changes, are more likely to make them if they understand. For example, lots of people pay a small amount extra to their energy supplier to get their electricity from renewables (before captain semantics chips in, yes I know it's more complicated than that). " And where are you going to educate them the schools are falling apart..." Well quite. It's much easier to control a population that is less educated. | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. Long term, it will mean cheaper electricity for consumers. Education is an important part of the puzzle too. More people understanding climate change would mean more will to change. There not willing if there using food banks. You can educate them but if your on the bred line you want everything everyone else has but not the means. If course. But people who can afford small changes, are more likely to make them if they understand. For example, lots of people pay a small amount extra to their energy supplier to get their electricity from renewables (before captain semantics chips in, yes I know it's more complicated than that). And where are you going to educate them the schools are falling apart... Well quite. It's much easier to control a population that is less educated. " So I guess you have solar, heat pump, EV cars etc so you are saving the planet. Me no flown on holiday witch cost more then installing soler but I like the sun 😎. An can afford to run my home the planet should see me out thanks. | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. Long term, it will mean cheaper electricity for consumers. Education is an important part of the puzzle too. More people understanding climate change would mean more will to change. There not willing if there using food banks. You can educate them but if your on the bred line you want everything everyone else has but not the means. If course. But people who can afford small changes, are more likely to make them if they understand. For example, lots of people pay a small amount extra to their energy supplier to get their electricity from renewables (before captain semantics chips in, yes I know it's more complicated than that). And where are you going to educate them the schools are falling apart... Well quite. It's much easier to control a population that is less educated. So I guess you have solar, heat pump, EV cars etc so you are saving the planet." What? What's this got to do with the discussion, why are you trying to make this about me? " Me no flown on holiday witch cost more then installing soler but I like the sun 😎. An can afford to run my home the planet should see me out thanks." Errrrrr okay. No idea how this is even vaguely related to the conversation. | |||
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"If anyone is looking at fitting renewables please do a lot of research! The whole industry is now overrun with poor quality contractors looking for quick profits. Not only will they oversell the benefits, but they can also do a lot of damage to your property with poor installation. If it sounds too good to be true, it normally is. Do you install or sell " I can just about change a plug but half my family are in electrical installation. They were fitting solar 30 years ago. | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. Long term, it will mean cheaper electricity for consumers. Education is an important part of the puzzle too. More people understanding climate change would mean more will to change. There not willing if there using food banks. You can educate them but if your on the bred line you want everything everyone else has but not the means. If course. But people who can afford small changes, are more likely to make them if they understand. For example, lots of people pay a small amount extra to their energy supplier to get their electricity from renewables (before captain semantics chips in, yes I know it's more complicated than that). And where are you going to educate them the schools are falling apart... Well quite. It's much easier to control a population that is less educated. So I guess you have solar, heat pump, EV cars etc so you are saving the planet. What? What's this got to do with the discussion, why are you trying to make this about me? Me no flown on holiday witch cost more then installing soler but I like the sun 😎. An can afford to run my home the planet should see me out thanks. Errrrrr okay. No idea how this is even vaguely related to the conversation. " We both know you, like me won't realy be affected. But the people how live from month to month pay day to pay day do. And they are the ones that are going to have to find more with less gas and oil coming out of the north sea | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. Long term, it will mean cheaper electricity for consumers. Education is an important part of the puzzle too. More people understanding climate change would mean more will to change. There not willing if there using food banks. You can educate them but if your on the bred line you want everything everyone else has but not the means. If course. But people who can afford small changes, are more likely to make them if they understand. For example, lots of people pay a small amount extra to their energy supplier to get their electricity from renewables (before captain semantics chips in, yes I know it's more complicated than that). And where are you going to educate them the schools are falling apart... Well quite. It's much easier to control a population that is less educated. So I guess you have solar, heat pump, EV cars etc so you are saving the planet. What? What's this got to do with the discussion, why are you trying to make this about me? Me no flown on holiday witch cost more then installing soler but I like the sun 😎. An can afford to run my home the planet should see me out thanks. Errrrrr okay. No idea how this is even vaguely related to the conversation. We both know you, like me won't realy be affected. But the people how live from month to month pay day to pay day do. And they are the ones that are going to have to find more with less gas and oil coming out of the north sea " Better to take the small hit now than the big hit further down the line, meanwhile pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere. | |||
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"If anyone is looking at fitting renewables please do a lot of research! The whole industry is now overrun with poor quality contractors looking for quick profits. Not only will they oversell the benefits, but they can also do a lot of damage to your property with poor installation. If it sounds too good to be true, it normally is. Do you install or sell I can just about change a plug but half my family are in electrical installation. They were fitting solar 30 years ago." Oh OK that makes more sense so if they where installing solar how meany have it on there own property. | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. Long term, it will mean cheaper electricity for consumers. Education is an important part of the puzzle too. More people understanding climate change would mean more will to change. There not willing if there using food banks. You can educate them but if your on the bred line you want everything everyone else has but not the means. If course. But people who can afford small changes, are more likely to make them if they understand. For example, lots of people pay a small amount extra to their energy supplier to get their electricity from renewables (before captain semantics chips in, yes I know it's more complicated than that). And where are you going to educate them the schools are falling apart... Well quite. It's much easier to control a population that is less educated. So I guess you have solar, heat pump, EV cars etc so you are saving the planet. What? What's this got to do with the discussion, why are you trying to make this about me? Me no flown on holiday witch cost more then installing soler but I like the sun 😎. An can afford to run my home the planet should see me out thanks. Errrrrr okay. No idea how this is even vaguely related to the conversation. We both know you, like me won't realy be affected. But the people how live from month to month pay day to pay day do. And they are the ones that are going to have to find more with less gas and oil coming out of the north sea Better to take the small hit now than the big hit further down the line, meanwhile pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere." How much CO2 did the plane make getting me 18 hours from London and the 2 to get me back. I'd say lots compared to the electricity I use but I do use a lot of electricity. | |||
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"i'm assuming you've done the 7671 then? Yes and c&g 2360 and test Hold part P and am a QS HNC. And the rest. And the industry is now shit. Do you still do MI, Conduit, singles, ladder, ETC " 2360 .... wow that was a while back lol. yes, we still metal munch, pull armoureds, singles, bms, ups, dali, panels, boards, data everything .... depends on the tender really .... but i have a team that concentrates on MG and BSS on all the new build schools, colleges, hospitals, Universities, public buildings that have been going up all over wales ... which is something that appears thin on the ground in england. we're involved in data centres in europe quite a lot too, along with a fair amount of bs7909 in the summer for festivals. | |||
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"i'm assuming you've done the 7671 then? Yes and c&g 2360 and test Hold part P and am a QS HNC. And the rest. And the industry is now shit. Do you still do MI, Conduit, singles, ladder, ETC 2360 .... wow that was a while back lol. yes, we still metal munch, pull armoureds, singles, bms, ups, dali, panels, boards, data everything .... depends on the tender really .... but i have a team that concentrates on MG and BSS on all the new build schools, colleges, hospitals, Universities, public buildings that have been going up all over wales ... which is something that appears thin on the ground in england. we're involved in data centres in europe quite a lot too, along with a fair amount of bs7909 in the summer for festivals." Nice iv gone more fiber and PLC to old for all the heavy stuff. Even gone back to CAT5e funny it's a changing field | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. Long term, it will mean cheaper electricity for consumers. Education is an important part of the puzzle too. More people understanding climate change would mean more will to change. There not willing if there using food banks. You can educate them but if your on the bred line you want everything everyone else has but not the means. If course. But people who can afford small changes, are more likely to make them if they understand. For example, lots of people pay a small amount extra to their energy supplier to get their electricity from renewables (before captain semantics chips in, yes I know it's more complicated than that). And where are you going to educate them the schools are falling apart... Well quite. It's much easier to control a population that is less educated. So I guess you have solar, heat pump, EV cars etc so you are saving the planet. What? What's this got to do with the discussion, why are you trying to make this about me? Me no flown on holiday witch cost more then installing soler but I like the sun 😎. An can afford to run my home the planet should see me out thanks. Errrrrr okay. No idea how this is even vaguely related to the conversation. We both know you, like me won't realy be affected. But the people how live from month to month pay day to pay day do. And they are the ones that are going to have to find more with less gas and oil coming out of the north sea Better to take the small hit now than the big hit further down the line, meanwhile pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere. How much CO2 did the plane make getting me 18 hours from London and the 2 to get me back. I'd say lots compared to the electricity I use but I do use a lot of electricity." I don't know, and I don't know what this has got to do with anything. | |||
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"i'm assuming you've done the 7671 then? Yes and c&g 2360 and test Hold part P and am a QS HNC. And the rest. And the industry is now shit. Do you still do MI, Conduit, singles, ladder, ETC 2360 .... wow that was a while back lol. yes, we still metal munch, pull armoureds, singles, bms, ups, dali, panels, boards, data everything .... depends on the tender really .... but i have a team that concentrates on MG and BSS on all the new build schools, colleges, hospitals, Universities, public buildings that have been going up all over wales ... which is something that appears thin on the ground in england. we're involved in data centres in europe quite a lot too, along with a fair amount of bs7909 in the summer for festivals." Yer started my traning under the 15th 1984 lol | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont" Another post full of confidence - and made up "facts" | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. Long term, it will mean cheaper electricity for consumers. Education is an important part of the puzzle too. More people understanding climate change would mean more will to change. There not willing if there using food banks. You can educate them but if your on the bred line you want everything everyone else has but not the means. If course. But people who can afford small changes, are more likely to make them if they understand. For example, lots of people pay a small amount extra to their energy supplier to get their electricity from renewables (before captain semantics chips in, yes I know it's more complicated than that). And where are you going to educate them the schools are falling apart... Well quite. It's much easier to control a population that is less educated. So I guess you have solar, heat pump, EV cars etc so you are saving the planet. What? What's this got to do with the discussion, why are you trying to make this about me? Me no flown on holiday witch cost more then installing soler but I like the sun 😎. An can afford to run my home the planet should see me out thanks. Errrrrr okay. No idea how this is even vaguely related to the conversation. We both know you, like me won't realy be affected. But the people how live from month to month pay day to pay day do. And they are the ones that are going to have to find more with less gas and oil coming out of the north sea Better to take the small hit now than the big hit further down the line, meanwhile pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere. How much CO2 did the plane make getting me 18 hours from London and the 2 to get me back. I'd say lots compared to the electricity I use but I do use a lot of electricity. I don't know, and I don't know what this has got to do with anything." You said about CO2 how really cares how much CO2 they create or there carbon foot print there are like 5,500 container ships in the world each burn 500 litters an hour when at sea. | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Can you elaborate on this? Solar and wind generated 37.7% of the electricity in the national grid. (Incidentally fossil fuels was 28.3%). So us "lunatics" are on board with some change that's required. You're right about one thing, lack of political will fueled my misinformation amongst the electorate will hamper efforts, slow things down and ensure profits for oil companies. This is the yearly figures on a dark cold night it's manly gas making electricity and to add heating homes. At night the lower demand in electric is met from wind, storage, hydro electric etc. Google National Grid Live it's not hard it give you what the UK is generating now and how and what is imported and exported. More is Gas right now I don't need to Google it. I gave you this source a couple of posts up when you asked. Yes more gas is being used right now at this moment. So we need to take some action. That's the entire point. Agree but at what cost to consumers so close all the gas power stations tomorrow and stop importing electricity see what the cost per unit is when there is not enough to go round. The gap is so big. But I ok with supply and demand but most want cheep energy, food, items from Amozon deliverd for pence and don't start with Timu is it, Stack it Hi and sell cheep when it's broken bin it and buy new. That is how most live now. Long term, it will mean cheaper electricity for consumers. Education is an important part of the puzzle too. More people understanding climate change would mean more will to change. There not willing if there using food banks. You can educate them but if your on the bred line you want everything everyone else has but not the means. If course. But people who can afford small changes, are more likely to make them if they understand. For example, lots of people pay a small amount extra to their energy supplier to get their electricity from renewables (before captain semantics chips in, yes I know it's more complicated than that). And where are you going to educate them the schools are falling apart... Well quite. It's much easier to control a population that is less educated. So I guess you have solar, heat pump, EV cars etc so you are saving the planet. What? What's this got to do with the discussion, why are you trying to make this about me? Me no flown on holiday witch cost more then installing soler but I like the sun 😎. An can afford to run my home the planet should see me out thanks. Errrrrr okay. No idea how this is even vaguely related to the conversation. We both know you, like me won't realy be affected. But the people how live from month to month pay day to pay day do. And they are the ones that are going to have to find more with less gas and oil coming out of the north sea Better to take the small hit now than the big hit further down the line, meanwhile pumping more CO2 into the atmosphere. How much CO2 did the plane make getting me 18 hours from London and the 2 to get me back. I'd say lots compared to the electricity I use but I do use a lot of electricity. I don't know, and I don't know what this has got to do with anything. You said about CO2 how really cares how much CO2 they create or there carbon foot print there are like 5,500 container ships in the world each burn 500 litters an hour when at sea. " Go on... | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Another post full of confidence - and made up "facts"" I think the point they were making is, lack of education on the subject leads to lack of political will to take any action, and will lead to missing climate targets. | |||
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" Yer started my traning under the 15th 1984 lol 🤣
Don't your not far behind me you old fart "was Noah you're lecturer? joking aside .... things are changing rapidly with the tech. check out salt water batteries ... we've installed on of these systems as a test for a UPS in a non critical environment at a hospital in ireland ... very interesting | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Another post full of confidence - and made up "facts" I think the point they were making is, lack of education on the subject leads to lack of political will to take any action, and will lead to missing climate targets." Go on ? | |||
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" Yer started my traning under the 15th 1984 lol 🤣
Don't your not far behind me you old fart
was Noah you're lecturer? joking aside .... things are changing rapidly with the tech. check out salt water batteries ... we've installed on of these systems as a test for a UPS in a non critical environment at a hospital in ireland ... very interesting"That I get for something like that, I did do generation for a bit intalling for Dawsn Keth back in the 90's and worked with guys doing UPS etc but that was all old lead asid, back then, but as to soler in homes its hard to see benifits in the UK unless you can see 20 year ahead in the same property. | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? " It's a crazy decision by Labour, but then Labour do not consider "Cause & effects" Where will the loss of revenue come from? Loss of 200,000 employees both offshore and onshore suppliers to the offshore industry. Educated Highly Skilled offshore employees WILL NOT transition to green energies, they will continue to follow the oil industries, keeping their skills and pensions, especially Production process operators (wellheads;oil seperation; gas compression & injection;water injection; utilities), Mechanical Technicians, instrument technicians (tiffies), Electrical Technicians, Chemist's, control room operators, chain drivers, deck crew, drilling and all other trades will stay within the oil industry. 54% fossil fuel power still has to be provided for low wind and low sunshine days. Your EV costs will increase whilst the nickel manganese cobalt (NMC), and Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) will get scarce and highly increase in price, just ask China right now. environmental concerns due to the use of Cobalt will increase. Blackouts will be regular in UK Meanwhile other countries increase oil and gas production higher, and flourish. Our offshore employees work abroad and give the middle finger to green energy. Ed Miliband and the Labour Party wonder why they cannot get enough skilled people to transition into a complete new job. | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It's a crazy decision by Labour, but then Labour do not consider "Cause & effects" Where will the loss of revenue come from? Loss of 200,000 employees both offshore and onshore suppliers to the offshore industry. Educated Highly Skilled offshore employees WILL NOT transition to green energies, they will continue to follow the oil industries, keeping their skills and pensions, especially Production process operators (wellheads;oil seperation; gas compression & injection;water injection; utilities), Mechanical Technicians, instrument technicians (tiffies), Electrical Technicians, Chemist's, control room operators, chain drivers, deck crew, drilling and all other trades will stay within the oil industry. 54% fossil fuel power still has to be provided for low wind and low sunshine days. Your EV costs will increase whilst the nickel manganese cobalt (NMC), and Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) will get scarce and highly increase in price, just ask China right now. environmental concerns due to the use of Cobalt will increase. Blackouts will be regular in UK Meanwhile other countries increase oil and gas production higher, and flourish. Our offshore employees work abroad and give the middle finger to green energy. Ed Miliband and the Labour Party wonder why they cannot get enough skilled people to transition into a complete new job." Sounds like project fear | |||
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"At the moment solar and wind power only generates around 5% of households in the country so I'm not sure why some of you lunatics think net zero needs to be achieved by 2030 because it wont Another post full of confidence - and made up "facts" I think the point they were making is, lack of education on the subject leads to lack of political will to take any action, and will lead to missing climate targets. Go on ?" That's it. | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It's a crazy decision by Labour, but then Labour do not consider "Cause & effects" Where will the loss of revenue come from? Loss of 200,000 employees both offshore and onshore suppliers to the offshore industry. Educated Highly Skilled offshore employees WILL NOT transition to green energies, they will continue to follow the oil industries, keeping their skills and pensions, especially Production process operators (wellheads;oil seperation; gas compression & injection;water injection; utilities), Mechanical Technicians, instrument technicians (tiffies), Electrical Technicians, Chemist's, control room operators, chain drivers, deck crew, drilling and all other trades will stay within the oil industry. 54% fossil fuel power still has to be provided for low wind and low sunshine days. Your EV costs will increase whilst the nickel manganese cobalt (NMC), and Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) will get scarce and highly increase in price, just ask China right now. environmental concerns due to the use of Cobalt will increase. Blackouts will be regular in UK Meanwhile other countries increase oil and gas production higher, and flourish. Our offshore employees work abroad and give the middle finger to green energy. Ed Miliband and the Labour Party wonder why they cannot get enough skilled people to transition into a complete new job." Where did you get this rhubarb from? | |||
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" Yer started my traning under the 15th 1984 lol 🤣
Don't your not far behind me you old fart
was Noah you're lecturer? joking aside .... things are changing rapidly with the tech. check out salt water batteries ... we've installed on of these systems as a test for a UPS in a non critical environment at a hospital in ireland ... very interesting
That I get for something like that, I did do generation for a bit intalling for Dawsn Keth back in the 90's and worked with guys doing UPS etc but that was all old lead asid, back then, but as to soler in homes its hard to see benifits in the UK unless you can see 20 year ahead in the same property. "oh i don't know .... i know people in the trade that have taken their system with them when they've moved ... it is possible | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It's a crazy decision by Labour, but then Labour do not consider "Cause & effects" Where will the loss of revenue come from? Loss of 200,000 employees both offshore and onshore suppliers to the offshore industry. Educated Highly Skilled offshore employees WILL NOT transition to green energies, they will continue to follow the oil industries, keeping their skills and pensions, especially Production process operators (wellheads;oil seperation; gas compression & injection;water injection; utilities), Mechanical Technicians, instrument technicians (tiffies), Electrical Technicians, Chemist's, control room operators, chain drivers, deck crew, drilling and all other trades will stay within the oil industry. 54% fossil fuel power still has to be provided for low wind and low sunshine days. Your EV costs will increase whilst the nickel manganese cobalt (NMC), and Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) will get scarce and highly increase in price, just ask China right now. environmental concerns due to the use of Cobalt will increase. Blackouts will be regular in UK Meanwhile other countries increase oil and gas production higher, and flourish. Our offshore employees work abroad and give the middle finger to green energy. Ed Miliband and the Labour Party wonder why they cannot get enough skilled people to transition into a complete new job." Labour are high on their own supply with the Net Zero stuff. Starmer has spent three working weeks flying on planes since he became PM. One report says he has spent more time outside of the UK than he has in it. When he was DPP he spent £250k on personal taxis. If he’s concerned about carbon emissions he should start with his own. He and Miliband seem to be desperate for some kind of global admiration for dismantling industry in the UK. People are just laughing at them. | |||
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"He and Miliband seem to be desperate for some kind of global admiration for dismantling industry in the UK. People are just laughing at them." it worked for thatcher according to right wing loons | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It's a crazy decision by Labour, but then Labour do not consider "Cause & effects" Where will the loss of revenue come from? Loss of 200,000 employees both offshore and onshore suppliers to the offshore industry. Educated Highly Skilled offshore employees WILL NOT transition to green energies, they will continue to follow the oil industries, keeping their skills and pensions, especially Production process operators (wellheads;oil seperation; gas compression & injection;water injection; utilities), Mechanical Technicians, instrument technicians (tiffies), Electrical Technicians, Chemist's, control room operators, chain drivers, deck crew, drilling and all other trades will stay within the oil industry. 54% fossil fuel power still has to be provided for low wind and low sunshine days. Your EV costs will increase whilst the nickel manganese cobalt (NMC), and Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) will get scarce and highly increase in price, just ask China right now. environmental concerns due to the use of Cobalt will increase. Blackouts will be regular in UK Meanwhile other countries increase oil and gas production higher, and flourish. Our offshore employees work abroad and give the middle finger to green energy. Ed Miliband and the Labour Party wonder why they cannot get enough skilled people to transition into a complete new job. Where did you get this rhubarb from?" I think he is using a faulty version of AI | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It's a crazy decision by Labour, but then Labour do not consider "Cause & effects" Where will the loss of revenue come from? Loss of 200,000 employees both offshore and onshore suppliers to the offshore industry. Educated Highly Skilled offshore employees WILL NOT transition to green energies, they will continue to follow the oil industries, keeping their skills and pensions, especially Production process operators (wellheads;oil seperation; gas compression & injection;water injection; utilities), Mechanical Technicians, instrument technicians (tiffies), Electrical Technicians, Chemist's, control room operators, chain drivers, deck crew, drilling and all other trades will stay within the oil industry. 54% fossil fuel power still has to be provided for low wind and low sunshine days. Your EV costs will increase whilst the nickel manganese cobalt (NMC), and Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) will get scarce and highly increase in price, just ask China right now. environmental concerns due to the use of Cobalt will increase. Blackouts will be regular in UK Meanwhile other countries increase oil and gas production higher, and flourish. Our offshore employees work abroad and give the middle finger to green energy. Ed Miliband and the Labour Party wonder why they cannot get enough skilled people to transition into a complete new job. Labour are high on their own supply with the Net Zero stuff. Starmer has spent three working weeks flying on planes since he became PM. One report says he has spent more time outside of the UK than he has in it. When he was DPP he spent £250k on personal taxis. If he’s concerned about carbon emissions he should start with his own. He and Miliband seem to be desperate for some kind of global admiration for dismantling industry in the UK. People are just laughing at them." If that was only the case, but sadly some people truly believe Labour's interference in the North Sea is the right thing to do. They believe that North Sea oil and gas production is running on empty! I guess they have no clue on what the Rosebank project and Jackdaw gas fields will provide, never mind the innovation of Rosebank for DW/HP/HT, this alone is pure genius. And ofcourse the huge reserves of Cambo; Claire Ridge, Shearwater (HP/HT) Elgin Franklin (HP/HT condensates) and 184 Oil Rigs, each one like a small city. It will take APACHE 4 years to run down operations as you cannot simply upsticks, but Chevron,ExxonMobil,Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already gone. Not sure if Nexen was bought over but they also had the huge Buzzard reserves | |||
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"You understand "net zero CO2" doesn't mean there will be no CO2 in the atmosphere. It means we won't be adding any more." "It doesn't mean that. But since you're a scientist, I'm sure you're just simplifying it for the little people." ".....anymore net. How's that?" "Ah! Got it, you meant "won't be adding any more net". No that's not it. We will probably continue to increase the amount of actual CO2 in the atmosphere, even when we're at net zero. With your knowledge of climate change science, I'm sure you know how that is done." "Actually, the other chap is right. It means there will be no CO2 in the atmosphere and plants will die." You can just admit that you don't know the answer. No one will think any less of you for it. | |||
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"When can we expect these blackouts, I need to get some candles " what you haven't got a state of the art battery back up solar set up at home saving the planet already? Tut tut planet killer | |||
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"When can we expect these blackouts, I need to get some candles " Burning candles will add co2 that's not part of the Green labour plan. | |||
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"When can we expect these blackouts, I need to get some candles Burning candles will add co2 that's not part of the Green labour plan. " Good point, I will just have to make do in the dark, tbh, these blackouts will be good for the environment, another win | |||
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"When can we expect these blackouts, I need to get some candles Burning candles will add co2 that's not part of the Green labour plan. " When the cold hits and the heating and lights go watch people start to chop down trees. It'll happen. I wonder if there's been an increase in sales of axes,hatchets and saws?How about portable gas stoves? Portable gas heaters? Just curious. | |||
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"When can we expect these blackouts, I need to get some candles Burning candles will add co2 that's not part of the Green labour plan. Good point, I will just have to make do in the dark, tbh, these blackouts will be good for the environment, another win "  | |||
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" US oil firm APACHE has said it will end all its operations in the North Sea by the end of 2029, blaming the impact of the windfall tax. Apache said recent confirmation in the Budget that the windfall tax on oil and gas firm profits would rise and be extended to 2030 had made production uneconomic. The Texas-based firm took control of the Forties field, east of Fraserburgh, in 2003 but suspended all new drilling activity last year. The UK government said it wanted to make the UK a "clean energy superpower" and it was asking the oil and gas sector to contribute more to that transition Chevron, ExxonMobil, Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already Sold all North Sea assets due to massive windfall tax and now APACHE. How many more massive corporations will walk away from huge non profitable investments due to Labour's greed. . Be aware that we the UK relay on average - 54% fossil fuel, 24% nuclear 20% wind/solar on a daily basis although solar is so small it's not worth mentioning. Google- National grid live, to get exact hourly percentages of usage. Good news, another sensible decision by labour, Why do you consider this to be a sensible decision by labour? It's a crazy decision by Labour, but then Labour do not consider "Cause & effects" Where will the loss of revenue come from? Loss of 200,000 employees both offshore and onshore suppliers to the offshore industry. Educated Highly Skilled offshore employees WILL NOT transition to green energies, they will continue to follow the oil industries, keeping their skills and pensions, especially Production process operators (wellheads;oil seperation; gas compression & injection;water injection; utilities), Mechanical Technicians, instrument technicians (tiffies), Electrical Technicians, Chemist's, control room operators, chain drivers, deck crew, drilling and all other trades will stay within the oil industry. 54% fossil fuel power still has to be provided for low wind and low sunshine days. Your EV costs will increase whilst the nickel manganese cobalt (NMC), and Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) will get scarce and highly increase in price, just ask China right now. environmental concerns due to the use of Cobalt will increase. Blackouts will be regular in UK Meanwhile other countries increase oil and gas production higher, and flourish. Our offshore employees work abroad and give the middle finger to green energy. Ed Miliband and the Labour Party wonder why they cannot get enough skilled people to transition into a complete new job. Labour are high on their own supply with the Net Zero stuff. Starmer has spent three working weeks flying on planes since he became PM. One report says he has spent more time outside of the UK than he has in it. When he was DPP he spent £250k on personal taxis. If he’s concerned about carbon emissions he should start with his own. He and Miliband seem to be desperate for some kind of global admiration for dismantling industry in the UK. People are just laughing at them." If that was only the case, but sadly some people truly believe Labour's interference in the North Sea is the right thing to do. They believe that North Sea oil and gas production is running on empty! I guess they have no clue on what the Rosebank project and Jackdaw gas fields will provide, never mind the innovation of Rosebank for DW/HP/HT, this alone is pure genius. And ofcourse the huge reserves of Cambo; Claire Ridge, Shearwater (HP/HT) Elgin Franklin (HP/HT condensates) and 184 Oil Rigs, each one like a small city. It will take APACHE 4 years to run down operations as you cannot simply upsticks, but Chevron,ExxonMobil,Marathon and ConnocoPhilips have already gone. Not sure if Nexen was bought over but they also had the huge Buzzard reserves
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