FabSwingers.com > Forums > Politics > TRUMP!!!
Jump to: Newest in thread
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Trump is actually very knowledgeable. A lot of the shit happened during Bidens watch. As a world superpower America has the power to step in and avoid conflicts and smooth waters in others. Biden set the stage by pulling troops out from abroad. It will be interesting to see how Trump deals with Russia and the Ukrainian war ... This thread should be in the politics forum really though. " Fair, but then every “shag, marry, avoid - the poster below” (and similar) should be in the games forum by that logic. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"He won Biggly! i dont care but will enjoy the mass mainstream media meltdown thats coming,,,,popcorn ready..." I thought they were both pretty awful candidates but the one consolation will be the left's collective nervous breakdown. It's gonna be a blast. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
", he won the election , he is the best person to be president, voted in by the electorate, a couple of disgruntled people on here won’t bother him Get over it, it's over " Over? It's only just started. God alone knows what will happen in his presidency. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Trump is actually very knowledgeable. A lot of the shit happened during Bidens watch. As a world superpower America has the power to step in and avoid conflicts and smooth waters in others. Biden set the stage by pulling troops out from abroad. It will be interesting to see how Trump deals with Russia and the Ukrainian war ... This thread should be in the politics forum really though. " Please inform yourself about the real circumstances of "Biden's" withdrawal from Afghanistan. This was set up by Trump. Biden did what he could but, with the US troop numbers being reduced below a viable level in the last weeks of Trump's first presidency, it was a shit show fait acomplis. Trump will tell Ukraine to hand over all the land, including Crimea, to Russia. He will withdraw the USA's military and financial support for Ukraine within hours of taking office. Russia will roll up to the old soviet borders. The safety of Europe will then be in the hands of the EU alone as Trump withdraws the USA from NATO. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Whether America has made the right choice will be up for debate for years. Having said that having a president who will enter in to office withl a vindictive personality and wants to settle scores doesn’t bode well for those who have previously opposed him regardless of party affiliation's. I feel this reflects more on his supporters and those who emboldened this behaviour and shows their true personality. Should politicians really insult and name call rather than debate policies?" No they should not but it is what they do because it is what their followers want to hear. They just want their orange man to stick it to the Democrat prick accross the street. The whole world has now become far, far, more unstable overnight because of mindless zenophobia of uneducated, parochial, Americans. A major war in Europe is now very likely on the cards. It has already started in the Ukraine. Russia, China, India, and North Korea will seek to recreate the USSR on steroids; with Trump's full support. There are no guard rails now. The USA's millitias like the "Proud boys", their members released from prison within days of Trump taking office, will roam the streets of the USA seeking "the enemy within and those poisioning the blood of America". God help those who provided witness to Jan 6th 2021. Like the Sturmabteilung who went before them Trump's millitia and DOJ will hunt down those that did not bend the knee to Trump. No Law enforcement group will stop these "good people" as they go about their sanctioned task. The future is very dark for us all. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 " Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Although it's not official yet but I'm kinda relieved that the Americans voted for the least worse option in Trump " A sexual assault enthusiast is the least worst option? | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. " Well people like Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un are worse who have people executed but don't hear you say anything about that but it's kool | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Whether America has made the right choice will be up for debate for years. Having said that having a president who will enter in to office withl a vindictive personality and wants to settle scores doesn’t bode well for those who have previously opposed him regardless of party affiliation's. I feel this reflects more on his supporters and those who emboldened this behaviour and shows their true personality. Should politicians really insult and name call rather than debate policies? No they should not but it is what they do because it is what their followers want to hear. They just want their orange man to stick it to the Democrat prick accross the street. The whole world has now become far, far, more unstable overnight because of mindless zenophobia of uneducated, parochial, Americans. A major war in Europe is now very likely on the cards. It has already started in the Ukraine. Russia, China, India, and North Korea will seek to recreate the USSR on steroids; with Trump's full support. There are no guard rails now. The USA's millitias like the "Proud boys", their members released from prison within days of Trump taking office, will roam the streets of the USA seeking "the enemy within and those poisioning the blood of America". God help those who provided witness to Jan 6th 2021. Like the Sturmabteilung who went before them Trump's millitia and DOJ will hunt down those that did not bend the knee to Trump. No Law enforcement group will stop these "good people" as they go about their sanctioned task. The future is very dark for us all. " Oh my such paranoia, can you name any person he was vindictive he was against during his last term? Yeah seek help you have been brain washed out of reality. All you snow flakes will be fine | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Whether America has made the right choice will be up for debate for years. Having said that having a president who will enter in to office withl a vindictive personality and wants to settle scores doesn’t bode well for those who have previously opposed him regardless of party affiliation's. I feel this reflects more on his supporters and those who emboldened this behaviour and shows their true personality. Should politicians really insult and name call rather than debate policies? No they should not but it is what they do because it is what their followers want to hear. They just want their orange man to stick it to the Democrat prick accross the street. The whole world has now become far, far, more unstable overnight because of mindless zenophobia of uneducated, parochial, Americans. A major war in Europe is now very likely on the cards. It has already started in the Ukraine. Russia, China, India, and North Korea will seek to recreate the USSR on steroids; with Trump's full support. There are no guard rails now. The USA's millitias like the "Proud boys", their members released from prison within days of Trump taking office, will roam the streets of the USA seeking "the enemy within and those poisioning the blood of America". God help those who provided witness to Jan 6th 2021. Like the Sturmabteilung who went before them Trump's millitia and DOJ will hunt down those that did not bend the knee to Trump. No Law enforcement group will stop these "good people" as they go about their sanctioned task. The future is very dark for us all. Oh my such paranoia, can you name any person he was vindictive he was against during his last term? Yeah seek help you have been brain washed out of reality. All you snow flakes will be fine" Tbh, what I have learnt about trump is to ignore what he says, 90 % of it is BS and nonsense, he won’t be deporting millions of immigrants etc etc, he just says things to excite his followers. I predict he will do 2 years then retire after playing golf every day | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. " they have turned there back on the the left and the climate will be better under musk who is doing more for the planet than him lol | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. Well people like Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un are worse who have people executed but don't hear you say anything about that but it's kool" I also don't hear anyone saying anything about that on here. What on earth has that got to do with a sexual abuser of women getting voted as president? | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. they have turned there back on the the left and the climate will be better under musk who is doing more for the planet than him lol" Couple of points. 1. Remember what happened last time Trump was president with Musk at his side? 2. Trump doesn't understand climate science. Thinks it's not real. So he'll likely not be good on the environment. 3. He expanded fossil fuels usage, and promoted misinformation about "clean coal". | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. Well people like Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un are worse who have people executed but don't hear you say anything about that but it's kool I also don't hear anyone saying anything about that on here. What on earth has that got to do with a sexual abuser of women getting voted as president?" The fact that there's people in power who've done worse things that's the point not to say anyone who abuses women are any better as of course its a terrible crime | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"It’s great news, particularly for the UK as Trump is a fan, provided idiots like Lammy don’t fuck things up. Stroke of genius bringing in RFK Jr and Shanahan, and I’m hopeful they will do some good stuff on health. He’ll need to get the border sorted but at least he’ll try, unlike Biden and Harris. Under Harris as President there was a major risk we would be heading for World War 3, she was such a corporate and military puppet. Major donations to her campaign from many big corporations who would have expected something in return. Also interesting to see what Musk does about slashing government waste. Might be a blueprint for what the UK has to do after five more years of Labour waste. My guess is that in four years time Americans generally will be wealthier. In four years time Britons generally will be poorer (a pattern that has been going on for decades). " Americans have always been more wealthy than the British | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. Well people like Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un are worse who have people executed but don't hear you say anything about that but it's kool I also don't hear anyone saying anything about that on here. What on earth has that got to do with a sexual abuser of women getting voted as president? The fact that there's people in power who've done worse things that's the point not to say anyone who abuses women are any better as of course its a terrible crime" Okay so Trump is marginally better than Putin or Kim Jong Un. Why does that make him a better choice than the other candidates who don't sexually abuse women? | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. they have turned there back on the the left and the climate will be better under musk who is doing more for the planet than him lol Couple of points. 1. Remember what happened last time Trump was president with Musk at his side? 2. Trump doesn't understand climate science. Thinks it's not real. So he'll likely not be good on the environment. 3. He expanded fossil fuels usage, and promoted misinformation about "clean coal"." he didn’t have musk by his side then he will frack America great again with musk solar will be huge | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"It’s great news, particularly for the UK as Trump is a fan, provided idiots like Lammy don’t fuck things up. Stroke of genius bringing in RFK Jr and Shanahan, and I’m hopeful they will do some good stuff on health. He’ll need to get the border sorted but at least he’ll try, unlike Biden and Harris. Under Harris as President there was a major risk we would be heading for World War 3, she was such a corporate and military puppet. Major donations to her campaign from many big corporations who would have expected something in return. Also interesting to see what Musk does about slashing government waste. Might be a blueprint for what the UK has to do after five more years of Labour waste. My guess is that in four years time Americans generally will be wealthier. In four years time Britons generally will be poorer (a pattern that has been going on for decades). " in 4 yrs time farage will have the backing of trump Vance musk and joe rogan can’t be bad lol | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"It’s great news, particularly for the UK as Trump is a fan, provided idiots like Lammy don’t fuck things up. Stroke of genius bringing in RFK Jr and Shanahan, and I’m hopeful they will do some good stuff on health. He’ll need to get the border sorted but at least he’ll try, unlike Biden and Harris. Under Harris as President there was a major risk we would be heading for World War 3, she was such a corporate and military puppet. Major donations to her campaign from many big corporations who would have expected something in return. Also interesting to see what Musk does about slashing government waste. Might be a blueprint for what the UK has to do after five more years of Labour waste. My guess is that in four years time Americans generally will be wealthier. In four years time Britons generally will be poorer (a pattern that has been going on for decades). in 4 yrs time farage will have the backing of trump Vance musk and joe rogan can’t be bad lol" Haha, he might get 10 seats next time | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. they have turned there back on the the left and the climate will be better under musk who is doing more for the planet than him lol Couple of points. 1. Remember what happened last time Trump was president with Musk at his side? 2. Trump doesn't understand climate science. Thinks it's not real. So he'll likely not be good on the environment. 3. He expanded fossil fuels usage, and promoted misinformation about "clean coal".he didn’t have musk by his side then he will frack America great again with musk solar will be huge " Last time Musk walked away because Trump trampled all over the climate and the local environment to make sure the oil and coal industry profits were prioritised. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. they have turned there back on the the left and the climate will be better under musk who is doing more for the planet than him lol Couple of points. 1. Remember what happened last time Trump was president with Musk at his side? 2. Trump doesn't understand climate science. Thinks it's not real. So he'll likely not be good on the environment. 3. He expanded fossil fuels usage, and promoted misinformation about "clean coal".he didn’t have musk by his side then he will frack America great again with musk solar will be huge Last time Musk walked away because Trump trampled all over the climate and the local environment to make sure the oil and coal industry profits were prioritised." so with him by his side now it will be better then so no problem there | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. they have turned there back on the the left and the climate will be better under musk who is doing more for the planet than him lol Couple of points. 1. Remember what happened last time Trump was president with Musk at his side? 2. Trump doesn't understand climate science. Thinks it's not real. So he'll likely not be good on the environment. 3. He expanded fossil fuels usage, and promoted misinformation about "clean coal".he didn’t have musk by his side then he will frack America great again with musk solar will be huge Last time Musk walked away because Trump trampled all over the climate and the local environment to make sure the oil and coal industry profits were prioritised." Trump and musk will have fallen out within 12 months | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"It’s great news, particularly for the UK as Trump is a fan, provided idiots like Lammy don’t fuck things up. Stroke of genius bringing in RFK Jr and Shanahan, and I’m hopeful they will do some good stuff on health. He’ll need to get the border sorted but at least he’ll try, unlike Biden and Harris. Under Harris as President there was a major risk we would be heading for World War 3, she was such a corporate and military puppet. Major donations to her campaign from many big corporations who would have expected something in return. Also interesting to see what Musk does about slashing government waste. Might be a blueprint for what the UK has to do after five more years of Labour waste. My guess is that in four years time Americans generally will be wealthier. In four years time Britons generally will be poorer (a pattern that has been going on for decades). " The average Brit is £10,200 poorer than they were in 2010 | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. they have turned there back on the the left and the climate will be better under musk who is doing more for the planet than him lol Couple of points. 1. Remember what happened last time Trump was president with Musk at his side? 2. Trump doesn't understand climate science. Thinks it's not real. So he'll likely not be good on the environment. 3. He expanded fossil fuels usage, and promoted misinformation about "clean coal".he didn’t have musk by his side then he will frack America great again with musk solar will be huge Last time Musk walked away because Trump trampled all over the climate and the local environment to make sure the oil and coal industry profits were prioritised. Trump and musk will have fallen out within 12 months " and you will know with all yr connections then lol | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"It’s great news, particularly for the UK as Trump is a fan, provided idiots like Lammy don’t fuck things up. Stroke of genius bringing in RFK Jr and Shanahan, and I’m hopeful they will do some good stuff on health. He’ll need to get the border sorted but at least he’ll try, unlike Biden and Harris. Under Harris as President there was a major risk we would be heading for World War 3, she was such a corporate and military puppet. Major donations to her campaign from many big corporations who would have expected something in return. Also interesting to see what Musk does about slashing government waste. Might be a blueprint for what the UK has to do after five more years of Labour waste. My guess is that in four years time Americans generally will be wealthier. In four years time Britons generally will be poorer (a pattern that has been going on for decades). The average Brit is £10,200 poorer than they were in 2010" That’s Brexit and 14 years of Tory rule for you | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. they have turned there back on the the left and the climate will be better under musk who is doing more for the planet than him lol Couple of points. 1. Remember what happened last time Trump was president with Musk at his side? 2. Trump doesn't understand climate science. Thinks it's not real. So he'll likely not be good on the environment. 3. He expanded fossil fuels usage, and promoted misinformation about "clean coal".he didn’t have musk by his side then he will frack America great again with musk solar will be huge Last time Musk walked away because Trump trampled all over the climate and the local environment to make sure the oil and coal industry profits were prioritised. Trump and musk will have fallen out within 12 months and you will know with all yr connections then lol" They did last time, tbh, it has zero effect on me, I llive in the UK not the USA | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"It’s great news, particularly for the UK as Trump is a fan, provided idiots like Lammy don’t fuck things up. Stroke of genius bringing in RFK Jr and Shanahan, and I’m hopeful they will do some good stuff on health. He’ll need to get the border sorted but at least he’ll try, unlike Biden and Harris. Under Harris as President there was a major risk we would be heading for World War 3, she was such a corporate and military puppet. Major donations to her campaign from many big corporations who would have expected something in return. Also interesting to see what Musk does about slashing government waste. Might be a blueprint for what the UK has to do after five more years of Labour waste. My guess is that in four years time Americans generally will be wealthier. In four years time Britons generally will be poorer (a pattern that has been going on for decades). The average Brit is £10,200 poorer than they were in 2010" Yes and it’s going to get worse. I’m already way worse off than I was two months ago. It’s a shame our very clever politicians can’t look around the world and learn from more successful countries, rather than pursuing blinkered and parochial ideologies. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"It’s great news, particularly for the UK as Trump is a fan, provided idiots like Lammy don’t fuck things up. Stroke of genius bringing in RFK Jr and Shanahan, and I’m hopeful they will do some good stuff on health. He’ll need to get the border sorted but at least he’ll try, unlike Biden and Harris. Under Harris as President there was a major risk we would be heading for World War 3, she was such a corporate and military puppet. Major donations to her campaign from many big corporations who would have expected something in return. Also interesting to see what Musk does about slashing government waste. Might be a blueprint for what the UK has to do after five more years of Labour waste. My guess is that in four years time Americans generally will be wealthier. In four years time Britons generally will be poorer (a pattern that has been going on for decades). The average Brit is £10,200 poorer than they were in 2010 Yes and it’s going to get worse. I’m already way worse off than I was two months ago. It’s a shame our very clever politicians can’t look around the world and learn from more successful countries, rather than pursuing blinkered and parochial ideologies." You can blame Brexit and 14 years of the tories | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. they have turned there back on the the left and the climate will be better under musk who is doing more for the planet than him lol Couple of points. 1. Remember what happened last time Trump was president with Musk at his side? 2. Trump doesn't understand climate science. Thinks it's not real. So he'll likely not be good on the environment. 3. He expanded fossil fuels usage, and promoted misinformation about "clean coal".he didn’t have musk by his side then he will frack America great again with musk solar will be huge Last time Musk walked away because Trump trampled all over the climate and the local environment to make sure the oil and coal industry profits were prioritised. Trump and musk will have fallen out within 12 months and you will know with all yr connections then lol They did last time, tbh, it has zero effect on me, I llive in the UK not the USA " if that’s how you feel why you on here talking about the USA | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"It’s great news, particularly for the UK as Trump is a fan, provided idiots like Lammy don’t fuck things up. Stroke of genius bringing in RFK Jr and Shanahan, and I’m hopeful they will do some good stuff on health. He’ll need to get the border sorted but at least he’ll try, unlike Biden and Harris. Under Harris as President there was a major risk we would be heading for World War 3, she was such a corporate and military puppet. Major donations to her campaign from many big corporations who would have expected something in return. Also interesting to see what Musk does about slashing government waste. Might be a blueprint for what the UK has to do after five more years of Labour waste. My guess is that in four years time Americans generally will be wealthier. In four years time Britons generally will be poorer (a pattern that has been going on for decades). The average Brit is £10,200 poorer than they were in 2010 Yes and it’s going to get worse. I’m already way worse off than I was two months ago. It’s a shame our very clever politicians can’t look around the world and learn from more successful countries, rather than pursuing blinkered and parochial ideologies." It wasn't labour that oversaw that decline you know. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. they have turned there back on the the left and the climate will be better under musk who is doing more for the planet than him lol Couple of points. 1. Remember what happened last time Trump was president with Musk at his side? 2. Trump doesn't understand climate science. Thinks it's not real. So he'll likely not be good on the environment. 3. He expanded fossil fuels usage, and promoted misinformation about "clean coal".he didn’t have musk by his side then he will frack America great again with musk solar will be huge Last time Musk walked away because Trump trampled all over the climate and the local environment to make sure the oil and coal industry profits were prioritised. Trump and musk will have fallen out within 12 months and you will know with all yr connections then lol They did last time, tbh, it has zero effect on me, I llive in the UK not the USA if that’s how you feel why you on here talking about the USA " I am interested, doesn’t mean it affects me, same reason you’re on here | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. they have turned there back on the the left and the climate will be better under musk who is doing more for the planet than him lol Couple of points. 1. Remember what happened last time Trump was president with Musk at his side? 2. Trump doesn't understand climate science. Thinks it's not real. So he'll likely not be good on the environment. 3. He expanded fossil fuels usage, and promoted misinformation about "clean coal".he didn’t have musk by his side then he will frack America great again with musk solar will be huge Last time Musk walked away because Trump trampled all over the climate and the local environment to make sure the oil and coal industry profits were prioritised. so with him by his side now it will be better then so no problem there " Okay, so last time Musk was 'at his side'. He walked away because Trump didn't understand what science is. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Whether America has made the right choice will be up for debate for years. Having said that having a president who will enter in to office withl a vindictive personality and wants to settle scores doesn’t bode well for those who have previously opposed him regardless of party affiliation's. I feel this reflects more on his supporters and those who emboldened this behaviour and shows their true personality. Should politicians really insult and name call rather than debate policies? No they should not but it is what they do because it is what their followers want to hear. They just want their orange man to stick it to the Democrat prick accross the street. The whole world has now become far, far, more unstable overnight because of mindless zenophobia of uneducated, parochial, Americans. A major war in Europe is now very likely on the cards. It has already started in the Ukraine. Russia, China, India, and North Korea will seek to recreate the USSR on steroids; with Trump's full support. There are no guard rails now. The USA's millitias like the "Proud boys", their members released from prison within days of Trump taking office, will roam the streets of the USA seeking "the enemy within and those poisioning the blood of America". God help those who provided witness to Jan 6th 2021. Like the Sturmabteilung who went before them Trump's millitia and DOJ will hunt down those that did not bend the knee to Trump. No Law enforcement group will stop these "good people" as they go about their sanctioned task. The future is very dark for us all. Oh my such paranoia, can you name any person he was vindictive he was against during his last term? Yeah seek help you have been brain washed out of reality. All you snow flakes will be fine" A Florida Republican. God bless you! I will not seek to disuade you from your chosen path. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Irrespective of whether any politician who ends up in a race to office says anything or nothing worth writing home about or not, they are simply puppets. The public face of the decisions made by the shadowy elite as they decide how to make more money and seize more power. And they didn't get there because they'll actually make any kind of difference. They would never have made it if they weren't towing the line. It's all about which flavour of poison you prefer but it's still poison. If he was anything different, he'd have been bumped off long before now. PS, insert whichever "democratic" country you prefer into this, they're all the same. A choice between two or three carefully selected puppets designed to test the mood of the nation." There you go mate, you dropped your tin foil hat | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"It’s great news, particularly for the UK as Trump is a fan, provided idiots like Lammy don’t fuck things up. Stroke of genius bringing in RFK Jr and Shanahan, and I’m hopeful they will do some good stuff on health. He’ll need to get the border sorted but at least he’ll try, unlike Biden and Harris. Under Harris as President there was a major risk we would be heading for World War 3, she was such a corporate and military puppet. Major donations to her campaign from many big corporations who would have expected something in return. Also interesting to see what Musk does about slashing government waste. Might be a blueprint for what the UK has to do after five more years of Labour waste. My guess is that in four years time Americans generally will be wealthier. In four years time Britons generally will be poorer (a pattern that has been going on for decades). " Agree with your summation. Supporter of Trump and hope we are not wrong. Main thing is he stays on point, and does not all the silly people distract him with all these trumped up allegations. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"It’s great news, particularly for the UK as Trump is a fan, provided idiots like Lammy don’t fuck things up. Stroke of genius bringing in RFK Jr and Shanahan, and I’m hopeful they will do some good stuff on health. He’ll need to get the border sorted but at least he’ll try, unlike Biden and Harris. Under Harris as President there was a major risk we would be heading for World War 3, she was such a corporate and military puppet. Major donations to her campaign from many big corporations who would have expected something in return. Also interesting to see what Musk does about slashing government waste. Might be a blueprint for what the UK has to do after five more years of Labour waste. My guess is that in four years time Americans generally will be wealthier. In four years time Britons generally will be poorer (a pattern that has been going on for decades). Agree with your summation. Supporter of Trump and hope we are not wrong. Main thing is he stays on point, and does not all the silly people distract him with all these trumped up allegations." Stays on point attacking the trans community, sexually abusing women, committing fraud, giving himself tax breaks, setting the world back in the fight against climate change? | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Excuse me. Unrelated from passing wind, who is bothered about American politics? Who is having a melt down? Who is amused? Who doesn’t care? Will it affect my sex party?" im amused chaos for another four years | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"It’s great news, particularly for the UK as Trump is a fan, provided idiots like Lammy don’t fuck things up. Stroke of genius bringing in RFK Jr and Shanahan, and I’m hopeful they will do some good stuff on health. He’ll need to get the border sorted but at least he’ll try, unlike Biden and Harris. Under Harris as President there was a major risk we would be heading for World War 3, she was such a corporate and military puppet. Major donations to her campaign from many big corporations who would have expected something in return. Also interesting to see what Musk does about slashing government waste. Might be a blueprint for what the UK has to do after five more years of Labour waste. My guess is that in four years time Americans generally will be wealthier. In four years time Britons generally will be poorer (a pattern that has been going on for decades). Agree with your summation. Supporter of Trump and hope we are not wrong. Main thing is he stays on point, and does not all the silly people distract him with all these trumped up allegations. Stays on point attacking the trans community, sexually abusing women, committing fraud, giving himself tax breaks, setting the world back in the fight against climate change? " you still going on lmao | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"It’s great news, particularly for the UK as Trump is a fan, provided idiots like Lammy don’t fuck things up. Stroke of genius bringing in RFK Jr and Shanahan, and I’m hopeful they will do some good stuff on health. He’ll need to get the border sorted but at least he’ll try, unlike Biden and Harris. Under Harris as President there was a major risk we would be heading for World War 3, she was such a corporate and military puppet. Major donations to her campaign from many big corporations who would have expected something in return. Also interesting to see what Musk does about slashing government waste. Might be a blueprint for what the UK has to do after five more years of Labour waste. My guess is that in four years time Americans generally will be wealthier. In four years time Britons generally will be poorer (a pattern that has been going on for decades). Agree with your summation. Supporter of Trump and hope we are not wrong. Main thing is he stays on point, and does not all the silly people distract him with all these trumped up allegations. Stays on point attacking the trans community, sexually abusing women, committing fraud, giving himself tax breaks, setting the world back in the fight against climate change? you still going on lmao" You still going on lmao. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"It’s great news, particularly for the UK as Trump is a fan, provided idiots like Lammy don’t fuck things up. Stroke of genius bringing in RFK Jr and Shanahan, and I’m hopeful they will do some good stuff on health. He’ll need to get the border sorted but at least he’ll try, unlike Biden and Harris. Under Harris as President there was a major risk we would be heading for World War 3, she was such a corporate and military puppet. Major donations to her campaign from many big corporations who would have expected something in return. Also interesting to see what Musk does about slashing government waste. Might be a blueprint for what the UK has to do after five more years of Labour waste. My guess is that in four years time Americans generally will be wealthier. In four years time Britons generally will be poorer (a pattern that has been going on for decades). Agree with your summation. Supporter of Trump and hope we are not wrong. Main thing is he stays on point, and does not all the silly people distract him with all these trumped up allegations. Stays on point attacking the trans community, sexually abusing women, committing fraud, giving himself tax breaks, setting the world back in the fight against climate change? you still going on lmao You still going on lmao." I don't understand what your comment is meant to explain? | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"It’s great news, particularly for the UK as Trump is a fan, provided idiots like Lammy don’t fuck things up. Stroke of genius bringing in RFK Jr and Shanahan, and I’m hopeful they will do some good stuff on health. He’ll need to get the border sorted but at least he’ll try, unlike Biden and Harris. Under Harris as President there was a major risk we would be heading for World War 3, she was such a corporate and military puppet. Major donations to her campaign from many big corporations who would have expected something in return. Also interesting to see what Musk does about slashing government waste. Might be a blueprint for what the UK has to do after five more years of Labour waste. My guess is that in four years time Americans generally will be wealthier. In four years time Britons generally will be poorer (a pattern that has been going on for decades). Agree with your summation. Supporter of Trump and hope we are not wrong. Main thing is he stays on point, and does not all the silly people distract him with all these trumped up allegations. Stays on point attacking the trans community, sexually abusing women, committing fraud, giving himself tax breaks, setting the world back in the fight against climate change? you still going on lmao You still going on lmao. I don't understand what your comment is meant to explain?" I copied and pasted the other person's meaningless comment. Not trying to explain anything. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Excuse me. Unrelated from passing wind, who is bothered about American politics? Who is having a melt down? Who is amused? Who doesn’t care? Will it affect my sex party?" Not my circus, not my clown 🤡 | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Whether America has made the right choice will be up for debate for years. Having said that having a president who will enter in to office withl a vindictive personality and wants to settle scores doesn’t bode well for those who have previously opposed him regardless of party affiliation's. I feel this reflects more on his supporters and those who emboldened this behaviour and shows their true personality. Should politicians really insult and name call rather than debate policies? No they should not but it is what they do because it is what their followers want to hear. They just want their orange man to stick it to the Democrat prick accross the street. The whole world has now become far, far, more unstable overnight because of mindless zenophobia of uneducated, parochial, Americans. A major war in Europe is now very likely on the cards. It has already started in the Ukraine. Russia, China, India, and North Korea will seek to recreate the USSR on steroids; with Trump's full support. There are no guard rails now. The USA's millitias like the "Proud boys", their members released from prison within days of Trump taking office, will roam the streets of the USA seeking "the enemy within and those poisioning the blood of America". God help those who provided witness to Jan 6th 2021. Like the Sturmabteilung who went before them Trump's millitia and DOJ will hunt down those that did not bend the knee to Trump. No Law enforcement group will stop these "good people" as they go about their sanctioned task. The future is very dark for us all. Oh my such paranoia, can you name any person he was vindictive he was against during his last term? Yeah seek help you have been brain washed out of reality. All you snow flakes will be fine" He refused aid for California for the wildfires “ they didn’t vote for me” He refused initial aid for Pueto Rico after storms “ They are not Americans” He had the DOJ send Cohen back to prison after Cohen spoke out about him. His Supreme Court blocked Cohens appeal on this vindictive act against generally accepted precedent. He wanted to prosecute Hilary Clinton but was persuaded not to, by the grown ups in the room. Remember he had a moderate team last time. They have all gone now, shouting he’s dangerous,. This includes his defence chiefs. This time he has immunity given to him by an openly corrupt supreme court. There are plans to appoint upwards of 34 right wing, lifetime appointed, federal judges in the mould of Ilene Cannon. Moderate judges including Republicans have severely limited the gerrymandering of voting districts to exclude influence by black voters. The intentional changes of the judiciary to MAGA ( not Republican) will stop any legal routes to challenge illegal behaviour by local officials acting on Trumps behalf. Don’t even start on women's rights. That’s definitely real suppression and definitely not for snowflakes. Women are dying and children being forced to give birth. WTF Add to this ,sex offender, tax evader, multiple bankruptcies taking many smaller firms with him. The family grifting money. I think we all should be very concerned. Well apart from his very wealthy backers. Oligarchy anyone? Don’t think he’s any friend of the U.K . He doesn’t give a fuck about us. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
""give me hope, kamala, hope kamala, give me hope kamala for the e-lec-tion Catchy song that " Well Done Trump congratulations | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
""give me hope, kamala, hope kamala, give me hope kamala for the e-lec-tion Catchy song that Well Done Trump congratulations " Indeed | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Loved watching all the 'leftie' meltdowns today on the old social media, pure gold 🤣 Mr F. " Which ‘old’ social media? | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Loved watching all the 'leftie' meltdowns today on the old social media, pure gold 🤣 Mr F. Which ‘old’ social media? " The one on my phone, watching all the leftie meltdowns 😂 Mr F. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Loved watching all the 'leftie' meltdowns today on the old social media, pure gold 🤣 Mr F. Which ‘old’ social media? The one on my phone, watching all the leftie meltdowns 😂 Mr F. " Ha, fair enough, whatever makes you happy | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Loved watching all the 'leftie' meltdowns today on the old social media, pure gold 🤣 Mr F. Which ‘old’ social media? The one on my phone, watching all the leftie meltdowns 😂 Mr F. " Nice one he’d start a fight in empty house. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Loved watching all the 'leftie' meltdowns today on the old social media, pure gold 🤣 Mr F. Which ‘old’ social media? The one on my phone, watching all the leftie meltdowns 😂 Mr F. " Why are you suggesting that only "lefties" are opposed to a multiple fraudster and sexual abuser of women was voted as president? Seems a bit insulting to everyone else. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Loved watching all the 'leftie' meltdowns today on the old social media, pure gold 🤣 Mr F. Which ‘old’ social media? The one on my phone, watching all the leftie meltdowns 😂 Mr F. Why are you suggesting that only "lefties" are opposed to a multiple fraudster and sexual abuser of women was voted as president? Seems a bit insulting to everyone else." I’m not insulted | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Loved watching all the 'leftie' meltdowns today on the old social media, pure gold 🤣 Mr F. Which ‘old’ social media? The one on my phone, watching all the leftie meltdowns 😂 Mr F. Why are you suggesting that only "lefties" are opposed to a multiple fraudster and sexual abuser of women was voted as president? Seems a bit insulting to everyone else." Ohhhh.... Were you one of those having a meltdown? Come on, be honest now! Mr F. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Loved watching all the 'leftie' meltdowns today on the old social media, pure gold 🤣 Mr F. Which ‘old’ social media? The one on my phone, watching all the leftie meltdowns 😂 Mr F. Why are you suggesting that only "lefties" are opposed to a multiple fraudster and sexual abuser of women was voted as president? Seems a bit insulting to everyone else. I’m not insulted " According to YouGov only 18% of those asked wanted trump to win. Just like the GE proved, the vast majority of people are not right wing , | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Loved watching all the 'leftie' meltdowns today on the old social media, pure gold 🤣 Mr F. Which ‘old’ social media? The one on my phone, watching all the leftie meltdowns 😂 Mr F. Why are you suggesting that only "lefties" are opposed to a multiple fraudster and sexual abuser of women was voted as president? Seems a bit insulting to everyone else. Ohhhh.... Were you one of those having a meltdown? Come on, be honest now! Mr F. " I think trump is hilarious., he obviously deserved to win, he is a bit old though and only had 4 years so I don’t think he will do much | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Loved watching all the 'leftie' meltdowns today on the old social media, pure gold 🤣 Mr F. Which ‘old’ social media? The one on my phone, watching all the leftie meltdowns 😂 Mr F. Why are you suggesting that only "lefties" are opposed to a multiple fraudster and sexual abuser of women was voted as president? Seems a bit insulting to everyone else. Ohhhh.... Were you one of those having a meltdown? Come on, be honest now! Mr F. " Does "meltdown" mean I wouldn't have voted for a man who sexually abuses women? If so, yes. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Loved watching all the 'leftie' meltdowns today on the old social media, pure gold 🤣 Mr F. Which ‘old’ social media? The one on my phone, watching all the leftie meltdowns 😂 Mr F. Why are you suggesting that only "lefties" are opposed to a multiple fraudster and sexual abuser of women was voted as president? Seems a bit insulting to everyone else. I’m not insulted According to YouGov only 18% of those asked wanted trump to win. Just like the GE proved, the vast majority of people are not right wing , " In the UK | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Loved watching all the 'leftie' meltdowns today on the old social media, pure gold 🤣 Mr F. Which ‘old’ social media? The one on my phone, watching all the leftie meltdowns 😂 Mr F. Why are you suggesting that only "lefties" are opposed to a multiple fraudster and sexual abuser of women was voted as president? Seems a bit insulting to everyone else. I’m not insulted According to YouGov only 18% of those asked wanted trump to win. Just like the GE proved, the vast majority of people are not right wing , " Or just 'not morons'. Plenty of right wing people also wouldn't vote for a fraudster who abuses women. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. " --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for." I don’t think so, it will be fine, there are only 2 ways to deal with what trump says he will do, laugh or ignore him, he is all talk, most of it is bullshit | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. I don’t think so, it will be fine, there are only 2 ways to deal with what trump says he will do, laugh or ignore him, he is all talk, most of it is bullshit " He’s been elected now with a massive mandate from the US electorate. Deal with it. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. I don’t think so, it will be fine, there are only 2 ways to deal with what trump says he will do, laugh or ignore him, he is all talk, most of it is bullshit He’s been elected now with a massive mandate from the US electorate. Deal with it." Exactly, it will be fine, he is very old and feeble so I just want him to rest up with his family and play golf in his final years. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Whether America has made the right choice will be up for debate for years. Having said that having a president who will enter in to office withl a vindictive personality and wants to settle scores doesn’t bode well for those who have previously opposed him regardless of party affiliation's. I feel this reflects more on his supporters and those who emboldened this behaviour and shows their true personality. Should politicians really insult and name call rather than debate policies? No they should not but it is what they do because it is what their followers want to hear. They just want their orange man to stick it to the Democrat prick accross the street. The whole world has now become far, far, more unstable overnight because of mindless zenophobia of uneducated, parochial, Americans. A major war in Europe is now very likely on the cards. It has already started in the Ukraine. Russia, China, India, and North Korea will seek to recreate the USSR on steroids; with Trump's full support. There are no guard rails now. The USA's millitias like the "Proud boys", their members released from prison within days of Trump taking office, will roam the streets of the USA seeking "the enemy within and those poisioning the blood of America". God help those who provided witness to Jan 6th 2021. Like the Sturmabteilung who went before them Trump's millitia and DOJ will hunt down those that did not bend the knee to Trump. No Law enforcement group will stop these "good people" as they go about their sanctioned task. The future is very dark for us all. Oh my such paranoia, can you name any person he was vindictive he was against during his last term? Yeah seek help you have been brain washed out of reality. All you snow flakes will be fine He refused aid for California for the wildfires “ they didn’t vote for me” He refused initial aid for Pueto Rico after storms “ They are not Americans” He had the DOJ send Cohen back to prison after Cohen spoke out about him. His Supreme Court blocked Cohens appeal on this vindictive act against generally accepted precedent. He wanted to prosecute Hilary Clinton but was persuaded not to, by the grown ups in the room. Remember he had a moderate team last time. They have all gone now, shouting he’s dangerous,. This includes his defence chiefs. This time he has immunity given to him by an openly corrupt supreme court. There are plans to appoint upwards of 34 right wing, lifetime appointed, federal judges in the mould of Ilene Cannon. Moderate judges including Republicans have severely limited the gerrymandering of voting districts to exclude influence by black voters. The intentional changes of the judiciary to MAGA ( not Republican) will stop any legal routes to challenge illegal behaviour by local officials acting on Trumps behalf. Don’t even start on women's rights. That’s definitely real suppression and definitely not for snowflakes. Women are dying and children being forced to give birth. WTF Add to this ,sex offender, tax evader, multiple bankruptcies taking many smaller firms with him. The family grifting money. I think we all should be very concerned. Well apart from his very wealthy backers. Oligarchy anyone? Don’t think he’s any friend of the U.K . He doesn’t give a fuck about us. " Have you considered why the Democrats didn’t win, despite all the criticisms against Trump? US citizens clearly expressed a preference for policies that meet their own priorities, not ours or those of other countries. They want less spending on overseas wars and tighter controls on illegal immigration, including deportation of people in the country illegally. They want better control of inflation and a reduction in high living costs, voters want an economy that works better for them and fewer tax $$$ going to foreign problems. This isn’t them being selfish it’s about self preservation and stability. The Democrats failed because they assumed that just being “not Trump” was enough. They attacked him on a personal level, and that deepened divisions. It’s ironic that many on the left who criticise Trump for his language and disregard for others seem to feel justified using the same inflammatory language themselves about him, it really is polarising the debate to the point of them and us, bad as each other, but that doesn't register if you are against Trump. I have read excuse after excuse as to why the Democrats lost, uneducated US citizens, sexist, racist etc.... Rather than blaming voters, perhaps Democrats should reflect on their strategy and performance. If Trump is as dangerous as many claim, then the responsibility for preventing his return lies clearly with the Democrats by offering solid, unifying policies to the American public, not just criticisms and excuses. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Whether America has made the right choice will be up for debate for years. Having said that having a president who will enter in to office withl a vindictive personality and wants to settle scores doesn’t bode well for those who have previously opposed him regardless of party affiliation's. I feel this reflects more on his supporters and those who emboldened this behaviour and shows their true personality. Should politicians really insult and name call rather than debate policies? No they should not but it is what they do because it is what their followers want to hear. They just want their orange man to stick it to the Democrat prick accross the street. The whole world has now become far, far, more unstable overnight because of mindless zenophobia of uneducated, parochial, Americans. A major war in Europe is now very likely on the cards. It has already started in the Ukraine. Russia, China, India, and North Korea will seek to recreate the USSR on steroids; with Trump's full support. There are no guard rails now. The USA's millitias like the "Proud boys", their members released from prison within days of Trump taking office, will roam the streets of the USA seeking "the enemy within and those poisioning the blood of America". God help those who provided witness to Jan 6th 2021. Like the Sturmabteilung who went before them Trump's millitia and DOJ will hunt down those that did not bend the knee to Trump. No Law enforcement group will stop these "good people" as they go about their sanctioned task. The future is very dark for us all. Oh my such paranoia, can you name any person he was vindictive he was against during his last term? Yeah seek help you have been brain washed out of reality. All you snow flakes will be fine He refused aid for California for the wildfires “ they didn’t vote for me” He refused initial aid for Pueto Rico after storms “ They are not Americans” He had the DOJ send Cohen back to prison after Cohen spoke out about him. His Supreme Court blocked Cohens appeal on this vindictive act against generally accepted precedent. He wanted to prosecute Hilary Clinton but was persuaded not to, by the grown ups in the room. Remember he had a moderate team last time. They have all gone now, shouting he’s dangerous,. This includes his defence chiefs. This time he has immunity given to him by an openly corrupt supreme court. There are plans to appoint upwards of 34 right wing, lifetime appointed, federal judges in the mould of Ilene Cannon. Moderate judges including Republicans have severely limited the gerrymandering of voting districts to exclude influence by black voters. The intentional changes of the judiciary to MAGA ( not Republican) will stop any legal routes to challenge illegal behaviour by local officials acting on Trumps behalf. Don’t even start on women's rights. That’s definitely real suppression and definitely not for snowflakes. Women are dying and children being forced to give birth. WTF Add to this ,sex offender, tax evader, multiple bankruptcies taking many smaller firms with him. The family grifting money. I think we all should be very concerned. Well apart from his very wealthy backers. Oligarchy anyone? Don’t think he’s any friend of the U.K . He doesn’t give a fuck about us. Have you considered why the Democrats didn’t win, despite all the criticisms against Trump? US citizens clearly expressed a preference for policies that meet their own priorities, not ours or those of other countries. They want less spending on overseas wars and tighter controls on illegal immigration, including deportation of people in the country illegally. They want better control of inflation and a reduction in high living costs, voters want an economy that works better for them and fewer tax $$$ going to foreign problems. This isn’t them being selfish it’s about self preservation and stability. The Democrats failed because they assumed that just being “not Trump” was enough. They attacked him on a personal level, and that deepened divisions. It’s ironic that many on the left who criticise Trump for his language and disregard for others seem to feel justified using the same inflammatory language themselves about him, it really is polarising the debate to the point of them and us, bad as each other, but that doesn't register if you are against Trump. I have read excuse after excuse as to why the Democrats lost, uneducated US citizens, sexist, racist etc.... Rather than blaming voters, perhaps Democrats should reflect on their strategy and performance. If Trump is as dangerous as many claim, then the responsibility for preventing his return lies clearly with the Democrats by offering solid, unifying policies to the American public, not just criticisms and excuses." They lost because of the economy, the number 1 reason. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for." Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Whether America has made the right choice will be up for debate for years. Having said that having a president who will enter in to office withl a vindictive personality and wants to settle scores doesn’t bode well for those who have previously opposed him regardless of party affiliation's. I feel this reflects more on his supporters and those who emboldened this behaviour and shows their true personality. Should politicians really insult and name call rather than debate policies? No they should not but it is what they do because it is what their followers want to hear. They just want their orange man to stick it to the Democrat prick accross the street. The whole world has now become far, far, more unstable overnight because of mindless zenophobia of uneducated, parochial, Americans. A major war in Europe is now very likely on the cards. It has already started in the Ukraine. Russia, China, India, and North Korea will seek to recreate the USSR on steroids; with Trump's full support. There are no guard rails now. The USA's millitias like the "Proud boys", their members released from prison within days of Trump taking office, will roam the streets of the USA seeking "the enemy within and those poisioning the blood of America". God help those who provided witness to Jan 6th 2021. Like the Sturmabteilung who went before them Trump's millitia and DOJ will hunt down those that did not bend the knee to Trump. No Law enforcement group will stop these "good people" as they go about their sanctioned task. The future is very dark for us all. Oh my such paranoia, can you name any person he was vindictive he was against during his last term? Yeah seek help you have been brain washed out of reality. All you snow flakes will be fine He refused aid for California for the wildfires “ they didn’t vote for me” He refused initial aid for Pueto Rico after storms “ They are not Americans” He had the DOJ send Cohen back to prison after Cohen spoke out about him. His Supreme Court blocked Cohens appeal on this vindictive act against generally accepted precedent. He wanted to prosecute Hilary Clinton but was persuaded not to, by the grown ups in the room. Remember he had a moderate team last time. They have all gone now, shouting he’s dangerous,. This includes his defence chiefs. This time he has immunity given to him by an openly corrupt supreme court. There are plans to appoint upwards of 34 right wing, lifetime appointed, federal judges in the mould of Ilene Cannon. Moderate judges including Republicans have severely limited the gerrymandering of voting districts to exclude influence by black voters. The intentional changes of the judiciary to MAGA ( not Republican) will stop any legal routes to challenge illegal behaviour by local officials acting on Trumps behalf. Don’t even start on women's rights. That’s definitely real suppression and definitely not for snowflakes. Women are dying and children being forced to give birth. WTF Add to this ,sex offender, tax evader, multiple bankruptcies taking many smaller firms with him. The family grifting money. I think we all should be very concerned. Well apart from his very wealthy backers. Oligarchy anyone? Don’t think he’s any friend of the U.K . He doesn’t give a fuck about us. Have you considered why the Democrats didn’t win, despite all the criticisms against Trump? US citizens clearly expressed a preference for policies that meet their own priorities, not ours or those of other countries. They want less spending on overseas wars and tighter controls on illegal immigration, including deportation of people in the country illegally. They want better control of inflation and a reduction in high living costs, voters want an economy that works better for them and fewer tax $$$ going to foreign problems. This isn’t them being selfish it’s about self preservation and stability. The Democrats failed because they assumed that just being “not Trump” was enough. They attacked him on a personal level, and that deepened divisions. It’s ironic that many on the left who criticise Trump for his language and disregard for others seem to feel justified using the same inflammatory language themselves about him, it really is polarising the debate to the point of them and us, bad as each other, but that doesn't register if you are against Trump. I have read excuse after excuse as to why the Democrats lost, uneducated US citizens, sexist, racist etc.... Rather than blaming voters, perhaps Democrats should reflect on their strategy and performance. If Trump is as dangerous as many claim, then the responsibility for preventing his return lies clearly with the Democrats by offering solid, unifying policies to the American public, not just criticisms and excuses. They lost because of the economy, the number 1 reason. " It took you less than 1 minute to read, think and respond to my post...... | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Whether America has made the right choice will be up for debate for years. Having said that having a president who will enter in to office withl a vindictive personality and wants to settle scores doesn’t bode well for those who have previously opposed him regardless of party affiliation's. I feel this reflects more on his supporters and those who emboldened this behaviour and shows their true personality. Should politicians really insult and name call rather than debate policies? No they should not but it is what they do because it is what their followers want to hear. They just want their orange man to stick it to the Democrat prick accross the street. The whole world has now become far, far, more unstable overnight because of mindless zenophobia of uneducated, parochial, Americans. A major war in Europe is now very likely on the cards. It has already started in the Ukraine. Russia, China, India, and North Korea will seek to recreate the USSR on steroids; with Trump's full support. There are no guard rails now. The USA's millitias like the "Proud boys", their members released from prison within days of Trump taking office, will roam the streets of the USA seeking "the enemy within and those poisioning the blood of America". God help those who provided witness to Jan 6th 2021. Like the Sturmabteilung who went before them Trump's millitia and DOJ will hunt down those that did not bend the knee to Trump. No Law enforcement group will stop these "good people" as they go about their sanctioned task. The future is very dark for us all. Oh my such paranoia, can you name any person he was vindictive he was against during his last term? Yeah seek help you have been brain washed out of reality. All you snow flakes will be fine He refused aid for California for the wildfires “ they didn’t vote for me” He refused initial aid for Pueto Rico after storms “ They are not Americans” He had the DOJ send Cohen back to prison after Cohen spoke out about him. His Supreme Court blocked Cohens appeal on this vindictive act against generally accepted precedent. He wanted to prosecute Hilary Clinton but was persuaded not to, by the grown ups in the room. Remember he had a moderate team last time. They have all gone now, shouting he’s dangerous,. This includes his defence chiefs. This time he has immunity given to him by an openly corrupt supreme court. There are plans to appoint upwards of 34 right wing, lifetime appointed, federal judges in the mould of Ilene Cannon. Moderate judges including Republicans have severely limited the gerrymandering of voting districts to exclude influence by black voters. The intentional changes of the judiciary to MAGA ( not Republican) will stop any legal routes to challenge illegal behaviour by local officials acting on Trumps behalf. Don’t even start on women's rights. That’s definitely real suppression and definitely not for snowflakes. Women are dying and children being forced to give birth. WTF Add to this ,sex offender, tax evader, multiple bankruptcies taking many smaller firms with him. The family grifting money. I think we all should be very concerned. Well apart from his very wealthy backers. Oligarchy anyone? Don’t think he’s any friend of the U.K . He doesn’t give a fuck about us. Have you considered why the Democrats didn’t win, despite all the criticisms against Trump? US citizens clearly expressed a preference for policies that meet their own priorities, not ours or those of other countries. They want less spending on overseas wars and tighter controls on illegal immigration, including deportation of people in the country illegally. They want better control of inflation and a reduction in high living costs, voters want an economy that works better for them and fewer tax $$$ going to foreign problems. This isn’t them being selfish it’s about self preservation and stability. The Democrats failed because they assumed that just being “not Trump” was enough. They attacked him on a personal level, and that deepened divisions. It’s ironic that many on the left who criticise Trump for his language and disregard for others seem to feel justified using the same inflammatory language themselves about him, it really is polarising the debate to the point of them and us, bad as each other, but that doesn't register if you are against Trump. I have read excuse after excuse as to why the Democrats lost, uneducated US citizens, sexist, racist etc.... Rather than blaming voters, perhaps Democrats should reflect on their strategy and performance. If Trump is as dangerous as many claim, then the responsibility for preventing his return lies clearly with the Democrats by offering solid, unifying policies to the American public, not just criticisms and excuses. They lost because of the economy, the number 1 reason. It took you less than 1 minute to read, think and respond to my post......" No worries, I am a speed reader | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly " Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly " ---------------------------------- Thanks but I can't rely solely on your confidence on this serious global issue which could have apocalyptic consequences | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. " What percentage of the US population do you consider uneducated, and what measure are you using to arrive at that figure? I’d be interested in understanding the basis of this claim... | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. I don’t think so, it will be fine, there are only 2 ways to deal with what trump says he will do, laugh or ignore him, he is all talk, most of it is bullshit He’s been elected now with a massive mandate from the US electorate. Deal with it." ----------------- Crikey it's saying something if you're unable to 'deal with' alternative views to your own on a politics thread! | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. " Mmmm strange that when ….. The US is recognized for the high quality of its education, in particular at university level. Approximately half of the world’s top 50 universities are located in Ameri… | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. What percentage of the US population do you consider uneducated," I don't consider them uneducated. If people don't know what science is. That means they're uneducated. " and what measure are you using to arrive at that figure? " I don't have figures on how many Americans are uneducated. " I’d be interested in understanding the basis of this claim..." What "claim"? I was pretty clear with my post. It's along the similar lines of the questions you were asking me about the 40% of Americans that think the earth is 6000 years old. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. Mmmm strange that when ….. The US is recognized for the high quality of its education, in particular at university level. Approximately half of the world’s top 50 universities are located in Ameri…" The US has lots of highly educated people too. Not sure what you're confused about. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" Mmmm strange that when ….. The US is recognized for the high quality of its education, in particular at university level. Approximately half of the world’s top 50 universities are located in Ameri…" -------------------------------- ..and as we all know this wasn't Trump's target audience. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. Mmmm strange that when ….. The US is recognized for the high quality of its education, in particular at university level. Approximately half of the world’s top 50 universities are located in Ameri… The US has lots of highly educated people too. Not sure what you're confused about." So which is it you said the US election voters are mostly uneducated, ??? Now the US has highly educated people?? | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. Mmmm strange that when ….. The US is recognized for the high quality of its education, in particular at university level. Approximately half of the world’s top 50 universities are located in Ameri… The US has lots of highly educated people too. Not sure what you're confused about. So which is it you said the US election voters are mostly uneducated, ??? Now the US has highly educated people?? " You seem confused. I did not say "the US election voters are mostly uneducated". Hope that helps. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. Mmmm strange that when ….. The US is recognized for the high quality of its education, in particular at university level. Approximately half of the world’s top 50 universities are located in Ameri… The US has lots of highly educated people too. Not sure what you're confused about. So which is it you said the US election voters are mostly uneducated, ??? Now the US has highly educated people?? " Tbf, it’s unfair to call all trump voters stupid but they are definitely less educated than democrat voters | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. Mmmm strange that when ….. The US is recognized for the high quality of its education, in particular at university level. Approximately half of the world’s top 50 universities are located in Ameri… The US has lots of highly educated people too. Not sure what you're confused about. So which is it you said the US election voters are mostly uneducated, ??? Now the US has highly educated people?? " ------------------------ That isn't what they said. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. Mmmm strange that when ….. The US is recognized for the high quality of its education, in particular at university level. Approximately half of the world’s top 50 universities are located in Ameri… The US has lots of highly educated people too. Not sure what you're confused about. So which is it you said the US election voters are mostly uneducated, ??? Now the US has highly educated people?? You seem confused. I did not say "the US election voters are mostly uneducated". Hope that helps. " Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. “ your words “ | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. Mmmm strange that when ….. The US is recognized for the high quality of its education, in particular at university level. Approximately half of the world’s top 50 universities are located in Ameri… The US has lots of highly educated people too. Not sure what you're confused about. So which is it you said the US election voters are mostly uneducated, ??? Now the US has highly educated people?? You seem confused. I did not say "the US election voters are mostly uneducated". Hope that helps. Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. “ your words “" Correct. As you can see. Different what what you'd said I said. Glad we got to the bottom of that. Let's get back on topic. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. Mmmm strange that when ….. The US is recognized for the high quality of its education, in particular at university level. Approximately half of the world’s top 50 universities are located in Ameri… The US has lots of highly educated people too. Not sure what you're confused about. So which is it you said the US election voters are mostly uneducated, ??? Now the US has highly educated people?? You seem confused. I did not say "the US election voters are mostly uneducated". Hope that helps. Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. “ your words “ Correct. As you can see. Different what what you'd said I said. Glad we got to the bottom of that. Let's get back on topic." Do you know what “electoral” means ? | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. Mmmm strange that when ….. The US is recognized for the high quality of its education, in particular at university level. Approximately half of the world’s top 50 universities are located in Ameri… The US has lots of highly educated people too. Not sure what you're confused about. So which is it you said the US election voters are mostly uneducated, ??? Now the US has highly educated people?? You seem confused. I did not say "the US election voters are mostly uneducated". Hope that helps. Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. “ your words “ Correct. As you can see. Different what what you'd said I said. Glad we got to the bottom of that. Let's get back on topic. Do you know what “electoral” means ?" I'll answer the question if you can give some context how it's related to the discussion or the OP. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. What percentage of the US population do you consider uneducated, I don't consider them uneducated. If people don't know what science is. That means they're uneducated. and what measure are you using to arrive at that figure? I don't have figures on how many Americans are uneducated. I’d be interested in understanding the basis of this claim... What "claim"? I was pretty clear with my post. It's along the similar lines of the questions you were asking me about the 40% of Americans that think the earth is 6000 years old." If you don’t actually believe a large portion of the US public is uneducated, do you think it’s fair to keep posting that claim? Also, your point about 40% of Americans believing the Earth is 6,000 years old wasn’t entirely clear. You didn’t explain why you see that belief as evidence of being uneducated. Are you hesitant to associate it with Christian teachings from the Bible? As far as I know, the idea of a 6,000 year old Earth stems mainly from bible. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. Mmmm strange that when ….. The US is recognized for the high quality of its education, in particular at university level. Approximately half of the world’s top 50 universities are located in Ameri… The US has lots of highly educated people too. Not sure what you're confused about. So which is it you said the US election voters are mostly uneducated, ??? Now the US has highly educated people?? You seem confused. I did not say "the US election voters are mostly uneducated". Hope that helps. Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. “ your words “ Correct. As you can see. Different what what you'd said I said. Glad we got to the bottom of that. Let's get back on topic. Do you know what “electoral” means ? I'll answer the question if you can give some context how it's related to the discussion or the OP. " It’s relevant because you are arguing one point then saying the opposite in another. Do you know what day it is? | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. What percentage of the US population do you consider uneducated, I don't consider them uneducated. If people don't know what science is. That means they're uneducated. and what measure are you using to arrive at that figure? I don't have figures on how many Americans are uneducated. I’d be interested in understanding the basis of this claim... What "claim"? I was pretty clear with my post. It's along the similar lines of the questions you were asking me about the 40% of Americans that think the earth is 6000 years old. If you don’t actually believe a large portion of the US public is uneducated, do you think it’s fair to keep posting that claim? Also, your point about 40% of Americans believing the Earth is 6,000 years old wasn’t entirely clear. You didn’t explain why you see that belief as evidence of being uneducated. Are you hesitant to associate it with Christian teachings from the Bible? As far as I know, the idea of a 6,000 year old Earth stems mainly from bible." The US average voter not stupid enough to insult the most powerful man in the world. Lammy is though | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. Mmmm strange that when ….. The US is recognized for the high quality of its education, in particular at university level. Approximately half of the world’s top 50 universities are located in Ameri… The US has lots of highly educated people too. Not sure what you're confused about. So which is it you said the US election voters are mostly uneducated, ??? Now the US has highly educated people?? You seem confused. I did not say "the US election voters are mostly uneducated". Hope that helps. Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. “ your words “ Correct. As you can see. Different what what you'd said I said. Glad we got to the bottom of that. Let's get back on topic. Do you know what “electoral” means ? I'll answer the question if you can give some context how it's related to the discussion or the OP. It’s relevant because you are arguing one point then saying the opposite in another. Do you know what day it is? " It was a typo of "electorate". It's Thursday. Can we get back on track now? | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. What percentage of the US population do you consider uneducated, I don't consider them uneducated. If people don't know what science is. That means they're uneducated. and what measure are you using to arrive at that figure? I don't have figures on how many Americans are uneducated. I’d be interested in understanding the basis of this claim... What "claim"? I was pretty clear with my post. It's along the similar lines of the questions you were asking me about the 40% of Americans that think the earth is 6000 years old. If you don’t actually believe a large portion of the US public is uneducated, do you think it’s fair to keep posting that claim? " It's not a "belief" I'm talking about evidence. It's not a "claim". " Also, your point about 40% of Americans believing the Earth is 6,000 years old wasn’t entirely clear. You didn’t explain why you see that belief as evidence of being uneducated. " Let me answer by asking you, do you think someone who rejects science. Picks belief in indoctrination. Is A. Educated about and understands science B. Uneducated? " Are you hesitant to associate it with Christian teachings from the Bible? As far as I know, the idea of a 6,000 year old Earth stems mainly from bible." My point is about rejecting/not understanding/being ignorant of what science is. This is just an easy example. I have no opinion or comment on religion in this context. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. What percentage of the US population do you consider uneducated, I don't consider them uneducated. If people don't know what science is. That means they're uneducated. and what measure are you using to arrive at that figure? I don't have figures on how many Americans are uneducated. I’d be interested in understanding the basis of this claim... What "claim"? I was pretty clear with my post. It's along the similar lines of the questions you were asking me about the 40% of Americans that think the earth is 6000 years old. If you don’t actually believe a large portion of the US public is uneducated, do you think it’s fair to keep posting that claim? It's not a "belief" I'm talking about evidence. It's not a "claim". Also, your point about 40% of Americans believing the Earth is 6,000 years old wasn’t entirely clear. You didn’t explain why you see that belief as evidence of being uneducated. Let me answer by asking you, do you think someone who rejects science. Picks belief in indoctrination. Is A. Educated about and understands science B. Uneducated? Are you hesitant to associate it with Christian teachings from the Bible? As far as I know, the idea of a 6,000 year old Earth stems mainly from bible. My point is about rejecting/not understanding/being ignorant of what science is. This is just an easy example. I have no opinion or comment on religion in this context." I'm going to leave it here now as we have gone full circle, with you offering no real explanation. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Love it and I hope he gets tripartition of power too, which will make him invincible in the US, he already has 2 out of the 3. I really hope Starmers ball bag is rattling in fear. Starmers got to deal with Trumps legal complaint against him yet, good luck with that. Hope Trump rips Labour to pieces over the next 4 years. Mr F. --------------------- He'll have ripped the world to pieces long before 4 years and leave a legacy our children will be paying for. Don't worry, it's like all the climate change rubbish... It's all hyped up rubbish, we'll all be fine, honestly Good point. A large portion of the US electoral are uneducated and don't think that science is real. Sad times. What percentage of the US population do you consider uneducated, I don't consider them uneducated. If people don't know what science is. That means they're uneducated. and what measure are you using to arrive at that figure? I don't have figures on how many Americans are uneducated. I’d be interested in understanding the basis of this claim... What "claim"? I was pretty clear with my post. It's along the similar lines of the questions you were asking me about the 40% of Americans that think the earth is 6000 years old. If you don’t actually believe a large portion of the US public is uneducated, do you think it’s fair to keep posting that claim? It's not a "belief" I'm talking about evidence. It's not a "claim". Also, your point about 40% of Americans believing the Earth is 6,000 years old wasn’t entirely clear. You didn’t explain why you see that belief as evidence of being uneducated. Let me answer by asking you, do you think someone who rejects science. Picks belief in indoctrination. Is A. Educated about and understands science B. Uneducated? Are you hesitant to associate it with Christian teachings from the Bible? As far as I know, the idea of a 6,000 year old Earth stems mainly from bible. My point is about rejecting/not understanding/being ignorant of what science is. This is just an easy example. I have no opinion or comment on religion in this context. I'm going to leave it here now as we have gone full circle, with you offering no real explanation." Sure. I don't know what it is that you're not following though. I genuinely tried to explain clearly. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Whether America has made the right choice will be up for debate for years. Having said that having a president who will enter in to office withl a vindictive personality and wants to settle scores doesn’t bode well for those who have previously opposed him regardless of party affiliation's. I feel this reflects more on his supporters and those who emboldened this behaviour and shows their true personality. Should politicians really insult and name call rather than debate policies? No they should not but it is what they do because it is what their followers want to hear. They just want their orange man to stick it to the Democrat prick accross the street. The whole world has now become far, far, more unstable overnight because of mindless zenophobia of uneducated, parochial, Americans. A major war in Europe is now very likely on the cards. It has already started in the Ukraine. Russia, China, India, and North Korea will seek to recreate the USSR on steroids; with Trump's full support. There are no guard rails now. The USA's millitias like the "Proud boys", their members released from prison within days of Trump taking office, will roam the streets of the USA seeking "the enemy within and those poisioning the blood of America". God help those who provided witness to Jan 6th 2021. Like the Sturmabteilung who went before them Trump's millitia and DOJ will hunt down those that did not bend the knee to Trump. No Law enforcement group will stop these "good people" as they go about their sanctioned task. The future is very dark for us all. Oh my such paranoia, can you name any person he was vindictive he was against during his last term? Yeah seek help you have been brain washed out of reality. All you snow flakes will be fine He refused aid for California for the wildfires “ they didn’t vote for me” He refused initial aid for Pueto Rico after storms “ They are not Americans” He had the DOJ send Cohen back to prison after Cohen spoke out about him. His Supreme Court blocked Cohens appeal on this vindictive act against generally accepted precedent. He wanted to prosecute Hilary Clinton but was persuaded not to, by the grown ups in the room. Remember he had a moderate team last time. They have all gone now, shouting he’s dangerous,. This includes his defence chiefs. This time he has immunity given to him by an openly corrupt supreme court. There are plans to appoint upwards of 34 right wing, lifetime appointed, federal judges in the mould of Ilene Cannon. Moderate judges including Republicans have severely limited the gerrymandering of voting districts to exclude influence by black voters. The intentional changes of the judiciary to MAGA ( not Republican) will stop any legal routes to challenge illegal behaviour by local officials acting on Trumps behalf. Don’t even start on women's rights. That’s definitely real suppression and definitely not for snowflakes. Women are dying and children being forced to give birth. WTF Add to this ,sex offender, tax evader, multiple bankruptcies taking many smaller firms with him. The family grifting money. I think we all should be very concerned. Well apart from his very wealthy backers. Oligarchy anyone? Don’t think he’s any friend of the U.K . He doesn’t give a fuck about us. Have you considered why the Democrats didn’t win, despite all the criticisms against Trump? US citizens clearly expressed a preference for policies that meet their own priorities, not ours or those of other countries. They want less spending on overseas wars and tighter controls on illegal immigration, including deportation of people in the country illegally. They want better control of inflation and a reduction in high living costs, voters want an economy that works better for them and fewer tax $$$ going to foreign problems. This isn’t them being selfish it’s about self preservation and stability. The Democrats failed because they assumed that just being “not Trump” was enough. They attacked him on a personal level, and that deepened divisions. It’s ironic that many on the left who criticise Trump for his language and disregard for others seem to feel justified using the same inflammatory language themselves about him, it really is polarising the debate to the point of them and us, bad as each other, but that doesn't register if you are against Trump. I have read excuse after excuse as to why the Democrats lost, uneducated US citizens, sexist, racist etc.... Rather than blaming voters, perhaps Democrats should reflect on their strategy and performance. If Trump is as dangerous as many claim, then the responsibility for preventing his return lies clearly with the Democrats by offering solid, unifying policies to the American public, not just criticisms and excuses. They lost because of the economy, the number 1 reason. " The economy was a major factor, but the Democrats failed to offer a unifying alternative that addressed many other concerns such as security and governance. They focused purely on being better than Trump, they failed the party and the country. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Whether America has made the right choice will be up for debate for years. Having said that having a president who will enter in to office withl a vindictive personality and wants to settle scores doesn’t bode well for those who have previously opposed him regardless of party affiliation's. I feel this reflects more on his supporters and those who emboldened this behaviour and shows their true personality. Should politicians really insult and name call rather than debate policies? No they should not but it is what they do because it is what their followers want to hear. They just want their orange man to stick it to the Democrat prick accross the street. The whole world has now become far, far, more unstable overnight because of mindless zenophobia of uneducated, parochial, Americans. A major war in Europe is now very likely on the cards. It has already started in the Ukraine. Russia, China, India, and North Korea will seek to recreate the USSR on steroids; with Trump's full support. There are no guard rails now. The USA's millitias like the "Proud boys", their members released from prison within days of Trump taking office, will roam the streets of the USA seeking "the enemy within and those poisioning the blood of America". God help those who provided witness to Jan 6th 2021. Like the Sturmabteilung who went before them Trump's millitia and DOJ will hunt down those that did not bend the knee to Trump. No Law enforcement group will stop these "good people" as they go about their sanctioned task. The future is very dark for us all. Oh my such paranoia, can you name any person he was vindictive he was against during his last term? Yeah seek help you have been brain washed out of reality. All you snow flakes will be fine He refused aid for California for the wildfires “ they didn’t vote for me” He refused initial aid for Pueto Rico after storms “ They are not Americans” He had the DOJ send Cohen back to prison after Cohen spoke out about him. His Supreme Court blocked Cohens appeal on this vindictive act against generally accepted precedent. He wanted to prosecute Hilary Clinton but was persuaded not to, by the grown ups in the room. Remember he had a moderate team last time. They have all gone now, shouting he’s dangerous,. This includes his defence chiefs. This time he has immunity given to him by an openly corrupt supreme court. There are plans to appoint upwards of 34 right wing, lifetime appointed, federal judges in the mould of Ilene Cannon. Moderate judges including Republicans have severely limited the gerrymandering of voting districts to exclude influence by black voters. The intentional changes of the judiciary to MAGA ( not Republican) will stop any legal routes to challenge illegal behaviour by local officials acting on Trumps behalf. Don’t even start on women's rights. That’s definitely real suppression and definitely not for snowflakes. Women are dying and children being forced to give birth. WTF Add to this ,sex offender, tax evader, multiple bankruptcies taking many smaller firms with him. The family grifting money. I think we all should be very concerned. Well apart from his very wealthy backers. Oligarchy anyone? Don’t think he’s any friend of the U.K . He doesn’t give a fuck about us. Have you considered why the Democrats didn’t win, despite all the criticisms against Trump? US citizens clearly expressed a preference for policies that meet their own priorities, not ours or those of other countries. They want less spending on overseas wars and tighter controls on illegal immigration, including deportation of people in the country illegally. They want better control of inflation and a reduction in high living costs, voters want an economy that works better for them and fewer tax $$$ going to foreign problems. This isn’t them being selfish it’s about self preservation and stability. The Democrats failed because they assumed that just being “not Trump” was enough. They attacked him on a personal level, and that deepened divisions. It’s ironic that many on the left who criticise Trump for his language and disregard for others seem to feel justified using the same inflammatory language themselves about him, it really is polarising the debate to the point of them and us, bad as each other, but that doesn't register if you are against Trump. I have read excuse after excuse as to why the Democrats lost, uneducated US citizens, sexist, racist etc.... Rather than blaming voters, perhaps Democrats should reflect on their strategy and performance. If Trump is as dangerous as many claim, then the responsibility for preventing his return lies clearly with the Democrats by offering solid, unifying policies to the American public, not just criticisms and excuses. They lost because of the economy, the number 1 reason. The economy was a major factor, but the Democrats failed to offer a unifying alternative that addressed many other concerns such as security and governance. They focused purely on being better than Trump, they failed the party and the country." It was all about the economy | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" It was all about the economy " ---------------------- Not entirely true, in my opinion it was due to a combination of contributing factors; 1. Harris's association to Biden. She was unable/unwilling to distance her political thinking from Biden's. 2. Trump had greater traction with Hispanic and conservative black voters who tend to subscribe to patriarchal doctrines. The fact Harris is black had less traction with these communities than the negative implications of her being female. 3. She was late to the party. 4. Trumps fear agenda appealed to voters who had concerns (real or otherwise) about immigration, the cost of living etc. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"The economy was the main reason why the Americans voted for Trump but also most I would say is they were sick and tired of the identity politics and this woke crap thats going around" ----------------------- Seriously? People are so insecure they're offended by 'woke crap', I don't think you appreciate how wokey that observation is! | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"The economy was the main reason why the Americans voted for Trump but also most I would say is they were sick and tired of the identity politics and this woke crap thats going around ----------------------- Seriously? People are so insecure they're offended by 'woke crap', I don't think you appreciate how wokey that observation is!" I didnt say they were offended of it i said they were sick of it big difference | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"The Democrats are in a similar position to the Conservative Party... They need to reconnect with their core values, truly understand what people want and need, and stop being so dismissive of national concerns. They put themselves on a pedestal of righteousness which alienated voters." The conservatives party got caught up in culture war nonsense , the UK electorate are not interested in demonising immigrants and trans people | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"The Democrats are in a similar position to the Conservative Party... They need to reconnect with their core values, truly understand what people want and need, and stop being so dismissive of national concerns. They put themselves on a pedestal of righteousness which alienated voters." Also, the UK and the US have very different cultures | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"The economy was the main reason why the Americans voted for Trump but also most I would say is they were sick and tired of the identity politics and this woke crap thats going around ----------------------- Seriously? People are so insecure they're offended by 'woke crap', I don't think you appreciate how wokey that observation is! I didnt say they were offended of it i said they were sick of it big difference" -------------------------------- Sick of it/offended? Let's not get lost in the semantics of describing the same thing. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"The Democrats are in a similar position to the Conservative Party... They need to reconnect with their core values, truly understand what people want and need, and stop being so dismissive of national concerns. They put themselves on a pedestal of righteousness which alienated voters." ------------------------- It alienated voters because it was a philosophy none of them believed in and few lived to. I'm no fan of Thatcher's or Reagan's but at least they could articulate their principles coherently and convince the public they actually believed in them. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"The Democrats are in a similar position to the Conservative Party... They need to reconnect with their core values, truly understand what people want and need, and stop being so dismissive of national concerns. They put themselves on a pedestal of righteousness which alienated voters. ------------------------- It alienated voters because it was a philosophy none of them believed in and few lived to. I'm no fan of Thatcher's or Reagan's but at least they could articulate their principles coherently and convince the public they actually believed in them." As you mentioned earlier Harris hadn’t got one policy that she could talk about that wasn’t what Biden led with. What a strange way to approach an election and electorate that had clearly lost faith in Biden, I’m not going to change a thing…. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"The Democrats are in a similar position to the Conservative Party... They need to reconnect with their core values, truly understand what people want and need, and stop being so dismissive of national concerns. They put themselves on a pedestal of righteousness which alienated voters. ------------------------- It alienated voters because it was a philosophy none of them believed in and few lived to. I'm no fan of Thatcher's or Reagan's but at least they could articulate their principles coherently and convince the public they actually believed in them. As you mentioned earlier Harris hadn’t got one policy that she could talk about that wasn’t what Biden led with. What a strange way to approach an election and electorate that had clearly lost faith in Biden, I’m not going to change a thing…." ------------------------ I don't necessarily disagree, there might also have been some complacency in believing Trump would have reduced credibility with voters particularly since the 6th Jan debacle and court cases. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"The Democrats are in a similar position to the Conservative Party... They need to reconnect with their core values, truly understand what people want and need, and stop being so dismissive of national concerns. They put themselves on a pedestal of righteousness which alienated voters. ------------------------- It alienated voters because it was a philosophy none of them believed in and few lived to. I'm no fan of Thatcher's or Reagan's but at least they could articulate their principles coherently and convince the public they actually believed in them. As you mentioned earlier Harris hadn’t got one policy that she could talk about that wasn’t what Biden led with. What a strange way to approach an election and electorate that had clearly lost faith in Biden, I’m not going to change a thing…. ------------------------ I don't necessarily disagree, there might also have been some complacency in believing Trump would have reduced credibility with voters particularly since the 6th Jan debacle and court cases." Exactly that, the Democrats believed they could win by simply saying they were not Trump, and that would be enough. They lost sight of the mood of the people, they attacked Trump and his followers with the same language they argued was why Trump shouldn’t be taken seriously, and wheeled out celebs who banged the drum for women to vote and not tell their husbands who they voted for, totally isolating male voters and in my opinion treating women as though they couldn’t think for themselves… It was a car crash election campaign. What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"The economy was the main reason why the Americans voted for Trump but also most I would say is they were sick and tired of the identity politics and this woke crap thats going around" Lots of Americans were panicking about gay people, trans people,. foreigners etc. Oppression of these groups was on their agenda. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"The Democrats are in a similar position to the Conservative Party... They need to reconnect with their core values, truly understand what people want and need, and stop being so dismissive of national concerns. They put themselves on a pedestal of righteousness which alienated voters. ------------------------- It alienated voters because it was a philosophy none of them believed in and few lived to. I'm no fan of Thatcher's or Reagan's but at least they could articulate their principles coherently and convince the public they actually believed in them. As you mentioned earlier Harris hadn’t got one policy that she could talk about that wasn’t what Biden led with. What a strange way to approach an election and electorate that had clearly lost faith in Biden, I’m not going to change a thing…. ------------------------ I don't necessarily disagree, there might also have been some complacency in believing Trump would have reduced credibility with voters particularly since the 6th Jan debacle and court cases. Exactly that, the Democrats believed they could win by simply saying they were not Trump, and that would be enough. They lost sight of the mood of the people, they attacked Trump and his followers with the same language they argued was why Trump shouldn’t be taken seriously, and wheeled out celebs who banged the drum for women to vote and not tell their husbands who they voted for, totally isolating male voters and in my opinion treating women as though they couldn’t think for themselves… It was a car crash election campaign. What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. " was the same here after brexit | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Either way I think it sends a message to the very liberal people to stop the woke agenda " Di you think labour , Lib Dem’s and the Green Party have a ‘woke agenda’ ? | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"The Democrats are in a similar position to the Conservative Party... They need to reconnect with their core values, truly understand what people want and need, and stop being so dismissive of national concerns. They put themselves on a pedestal of righteousness which alienated voters. ------------------------- It alienated voters because it was a philosophy none of them believed in and few lived to. I'm no fan of Thatcher's or Reagan's but at least they could articulate their principles coherently and convince the public they actually believed in them. As you mentioned earlier Harris hadn’t got one policy that she could talk about that wasn’t what Biden led with. What a strange way to approach an election and electorate that had clearly lost faith in Biden, I’m not going to change a thing…. ------------------------ I don't necessarily disagree, there might also have been some complacency in believing Trump would have reduced credibility with voters particularly since the 6th Jan debacle and court cases. Exactly that, the Democrats believed they could win by simply saying they were not Trump, and that would be enough. They lost sight of the mood of the people, they attacked Trump and his followers with the same language they argued was why Trump shouldn’t be taken seriously, and wheeled out celebs who banged the drum for women to vote and not tell their husbands who they voted for, totally isolating male voters and in my opinion treating women as though they couldn’t think for themselves… It was a car crash election campaign. What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. was the same here after brexit " I dint think people said Brexit voters were racist, after all , immigration increased after it | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. " ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric." This is a gross oversimplification, and fails to understand how Americans across cultural divides think. Many Americans who identify to the right believe that women are less safe with democrats, since they are softer on crime and criminals in general. Many low-income groups with records of low education are "natural democrats", especially those in big cities or from certain demographics. Your assertion sounds like the typical lament of a Californian humanities student, but the picture in the US is a lot more nuanced. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric." here ya go proves my point some ppl can’t conceive a world in which there’s ppl who don’t think the same as them lol | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric." That’s a bit unfair, trump voters are not uneducated , just less educated than democrat voters | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric. That’s a bit unfair, trump voters are not uneducated , just less educated than democrat voters " And still the Democrats got wiped out. It doesn’t really seem that their “education” achieved very much. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric. That’s a bit unfair, trump voters are not uneducated , just less educated than democrat voters And still the Democrats got wiped out. It doesn’t really seem that their “education” achieved very much." Where did I dispute that ? Everyone has the right to vote, even if they have a low level of education | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric. That’s a bit unfair, trump voters are not uneducated , just less educated than democrat voters " That's either a "bold" or "utterly stupid" statement stating that you presume to know - 72,647,685 American voters. Or maybe just a childish statement | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric. That’s a bit unfair, trump voters are not uneducated , just less educated than democrat voters That's either a "bold" or "utterly stupid" statement stating that you presume to know - 72,647,685 American voters. Or maybe just a childish statement " Based on polling data, and trump voter’s demographic | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric. That’s a bit unfair, trump voters are not uneducated , just less educated than democrat voters That's either a "bold" or "utterly stupid" statement stating that you presume to know - 72,647,685 American voters. Or maybe just a childish statement Based on polling data, and trump voter’s demographic " It should be noted this is based on the average, not all | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric. That’s a bit unfair, trump voters are not uneducated , just less educated than democrat voters That's either a "bold" or "utterly stupid" statement stating that you presume to know - 72,647,685 American voters. Or maybe just a childish statement Based on polling data, and trump voter’s demographic " So you consider Elon Musk a lesser man than who? From Wall Street to Silicon Valley, a growing number of billionaires, tech titans and venture capitalists are backing Donald Trump’s campaign for president, among them Stephen Schwarzman, chairman of Blackstone, the world’s largest private-equity fund, Steve Wynn, the casino tycoon, Bill Ackman, the hedge fund manager, and Marc Andreessen, a leading venture capitalist. I again suggest your comments are either uneducated or simply childish. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric. That’s a bit unfair, trump voters are not uneducated , just less educated than democrat voters That's either a "bold" or "utterly stupid" statement stating that you presume to know - 72,647,685 American voters. Or maybe just a childish statement Based on polling data, and trump voter’s demographic So you consider Elon Musk a lesser man than who? From Wall Street to Silicon Valley, a growing number of billionaires, tech titans and venture capitalists are backing Donald Trump’s campaign for president, among them Stephen Schwarzman, chairman of Blackstone, the world’s largest private-equity fund, Steve Wynn, the casino tycoon, Bill Ackman, the hedge fund manager, and Marc Andreessen, a leading venture capitalist. I again suggest your comments are either uneducated or simply childish." Where did I say anyone was ‘a lesser man’ , I am Using data and demographics, I should clarify that it’s not all voters but the average trump voter is less well educated than the average democrat voter, doesn’t mean they are less intelligent, just less educated | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric. That’s a bit unfair, trump voters are not uneducated , just less educated than democrat voters That's either a "bold" or "utterly stupid" statement stating that you presume to know - 72,647,685 American voters. Or maybe just a childish statement Based on polling data, and trump voter’s demographic So you consider Elon Musk a lesser man than who? From Wall Street to Silicon Valley, a growing number of billionaires, tech titans and venture capitalists are backing Donald Trump’s campaign for president, among them Stephen Schwarzman, chairman of Blackstone, the world’s largest private-equity fund, Steve Wynn, the casino tycoon, Bill Ackman, the hedge fund manager, and Marc Andreessen, a leading venture capitalist. I again suggest your comments are either uneducated or simply childish. Where did I say anyone was ‘a lesser man’ , I am Using data and demographics, I should clarify that it’s not all voters but the average trump voter is less well educated than the average democrat voter, doesn’t mean they are less intelligent, just less educated " I still disagree, the majority of oil workers I have worked with are all Republican as are the companies they work for. I suspect that you are just using data that you have no idea is factual or not. And what do you call "educated"? Someone with a degree? Because the number of degree qualified engineers we get out here on the rigs without working experience is unbelievable and a waste of our time Again I call your comments utter nonsense | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric. That’s a bit unfair, trump voters are not uneducated , just less educated than democrat voters That's either a "bold" or "utterly stupid" statement stating that you presume to know - 72,647,685 American voters. Or maybe just a childish statement Based on polling data, and trump voter’s demographic So you consider Elon Musk a lesser man than who? From Wall Street to Silicon Valley, a growing number of billionaires, tech titans and venture capitalists are backing Donald Trump’s campaign for president, among them Stephen Schwarzman, chairman of Blackstone, the world’s largest private-equity fund, Steve Wynn, the casino tycoon, Bill Ackman, the hedge fund manager, and Marc Andreessen, a leading venture capitalist. I again suggest your comments are either uneducated or simply childish. Where did I say anyone was ‘a lesser man’ , I am Using data and demographics, I should clarify that it’s not all voters but the average trump voter is less well educated than the average democrat voter, doesn’t mean they are less intelligent, just less educated I still disagree, the majority of oil workers I have worked with are all Republican as are the companies they work for. I suspect that you are just using data that you have no idea is factual or not. And what do you call "educated"? Someone with a degree? Because the number of degree qualified engineers we get out here on the rigs without working experience is unbelievable and a waste of our time Again I call your comments utter nonsense " It’s based on data, no need to get so upset . I am taking about better educated, so yes, more democrat voters will have a higher education qualification than the average Trump voters. The demographic of voters is very important when you are studying why people vote in a certain way , it was the same with Brexit , really interesting | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" It’s based on data, no need to get so upset . I am taking about better educated, so yes, more democrat voters will have a higher education qualification than the average Trump voters. The demographic of voters is very important when you are studying why people vote in a certain way , it was the same with Brexit , really interesting " There are a couple of other factors in these conversations: (1) Implication. "Uneducated" people vote for x, therefore x is stupid. Generally followed by a protest of, "I didn't say that!". No, but it was implied. Or one is in denial as to what was meant. (2) Correlation and causation. People who have been to university, with student debt, for example, might be more attracted to a party that promises to eradicate student debt. Those in white collar jobs (university educated) might benefit more from policies that benefit large cities. Those who benefit most from overseas labour might prefer parties with more relaxed immigration policies. When understood with the implications above, the relevance of education levels becomes more subject to question. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"I'm glad that the Americans voted Trump as their president, it's a shame the UK didn't follow their lead" Who did you want to be PM? | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"I'm glad that the Americans voted Trump as their president, it's a shame the UK didn't follow their lead" Trump as our president? (shudder) | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" It’s based on data, no need to get so upset . I am taking about better educated, so yes, more democrat voters will have a higher education qualification than the average Trump voters. The demographic of voters is very important when you are studying why people vote in a certain way , it was the same with Brexit , really interesting There are a couple of other factors in these conversations: (1) Implication. "Uneducated" people vote for x, therefore x is stupid. Generally followed by a protest of, "I didn't say that!". No, but it was implied. Or one is in denial as to what was meant. (2) Correlation and causation. People who have been to university, with student debt, for example, might be more attracted to a party that promises to eradicate student debt. Those in white collar jobs (university educated) might benefit more from policies that benefit large cities. Those who benefit most from overseas labour might prefer parties with more relaxed immigration policies. When understood with the implications above, the relevance of education levels becomes more subject to question. " Interesting, | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric. That’s a bit unfair, trump voters are not uneducated , just less educated than democrat voters That's either a "bold" or "utterly stupid" statement stating that you presume to know - 72,647,685 American voters. Or maybe just a childish statement Based on polling data, and trump voter’s demographic So you consider Elon Musk a lesser man than who? From Wall Street to Silicon Valley, a growing number of billionaires, tech titans and venture capitalists are backing Donald Trump’s campaign for president, among them Stephen Schwarzman, chairman of Blackstone, the world’s largest private-equity fund, Steve Wynn, the casino tycoon, Bill Ackman, the hedge fund manager, and Marc Andreessen, a leading venture capitalist. I again suggest your comments are either uneducated or simply childish. Where did I say anyone was ‘a lesser man’ , I am Using data and demographics, I should clarify that it’s not all voters but the average trump voter is less well educated than the average democrat voter, doesn’t mean they are less intelligent, just less educated I still disagree, the majority of oil workers I have worked with are all Republican as are the companies they work for. I suspect that you are just using data that you have no idea is factual or not. And what do you call "educated"? Someone with a degree? Because the number of degree qualified engineers we get out here on the rigs without working experience is unbelievable and a waste of our time Again I call your comments utter nonsense It’s based on data, no need to get so upset . I am taking about better educated, so yes, more democrat voters will have a higher education qualification than the average Trump voters. The demographic of voters is very important when you are studying why people vote in a certain way , it was the same with Brexit , really interesting " Upset.... quite the opposite, I've had 2 direct messages from females agreeing with me and thinking your comments are ridiculous, so you have actually opened the door for nice private communication with 2 lovely ladies. So carry on with your crazy comments | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric. That’s a bit unfair, trump voters are not uneducated , just less educated than democrat voters That's either a "bold" or "utterly stupid" statement stating that you presume to know - 72,647,685 American voters. Or maybe just a childish statement Based on polling data, and trump voter’s demographic So you consider Elon Musk a lesser man than who? From Wall Street to Silicon Valley, a growing number of billionaires, tech titans and venture capitalists are backing Donald Trump’s campaign for president, among them Stephen Schwarzman, chairman of Blackstone, the world’s largest private-equity fund, Steve Wynn, the casino tycoon, Bill Ackman, the hedge fund manager, and Marc Andreessen, a leading venture capitalist. I again suggest your comments are either uneducated or simply childish. Where did I say anyone was ‘a lesser man’ , I am Using data and demographics, I should clarify that it’s not all voters but the average trump voter is less well educated than the average democrat voter, doesn’t mean they are less intelligent, just less educated I still disagree, the majority of oil workers I have worked with are all Republican as are the companies they work for. I suspect that you are just using data that you have no idea is factual or not. And what do you call "educated"? Someone with a degree? Because the number of degree qualified engineers we get out here on the rigs without working experience is unbelievable and a waste of our time Again I call your comments utter nonsense It’s based on data, no need to get so upset . I am taking about better educated, so yes, more democrat voters will have a higher education qualification than the average Trump voters. The demographic of voters is very important when you are studying why people vote in a certain way , it was the same with Brexit , really interesting Upset.... quite the opposite, I've had 2 direct messages from females agreeing with me and thinking your comments are ridiculous, so you have actually opened the door for nice private communication with 2 lovely ladies. So carry on with your crazy comments " Have you really? 2 females, what a coincidence, I have had a message from 3 females agreeing with me , amazing how this works | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric. here ya go proves my point some ppl can’t conceive a world in which there’s ppl who don’t think the same as them lol" ------------------- Indeed, I'm not even sure what point you're making. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
" What is also disappointing to hear is people blaming the voters for being sexist, racist and uneducated because they didn’t vote for the Democrats, if that is how the narrative plays out, the Democrats will be in the long grass for years. ---------------------------- That may be the case but most racists, sexist and uneducated voters will have picked Trump, he targeted them with crass rhetoric. That’s a bit unfair, trump voters are not uneducated , just less educated than democrat voters " ---------------------- I didn't say they were. I said most uneducated voters will fall for Trump, he knows it, which is why he got away with flip-flopping his campaign messages. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"I'm glad that the Americans voted Trump as their president, it's a shame the UK didn't follow their lead" -------------- Yes we know you are. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Either way I think it sends a message to the very liberal people to stop the woke agenda " Why are you thinking that only "very liberal" people have an agenda to be aware of social injustice, especially racism? | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"I'm glad that the Americans voted Trump as their president, it's a shame the UK didn't follow their lead" You want an American who sexually abuses women to be president of the UK? Some bizarre things on here. This is up there. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"I'm glad that the Americans voted Trump as their president, it's a shame the UK didn't follow their lead Who did you want to be PM? " Not Keir Starmer that's for sure, you guys were better off having Nigel Farage as PM | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Either way I think it sends a message to the very liberal people to stop the woke agenda Why are you thinking that only "very liberal" people have an agenda to be aware of social injustice, especially racism? " Woke don't mean social injustice I'm afraid and this isn't my thinking | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. " Yerrrr lefty Liberal looney | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"I'm glad that the Americans voted Trump as their president, it's a shame the UK didn't follow their lead Who did you want to be PM? Not Keir Starmer that's for sure, you guys were better off having Nigel Farage as PM" You guys? Anyway, I am happy enough with SKS, Farage only got 5 MPs, very poor, I heard he is aiming for 10 next time | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"I'm glad that the Americans voted Trump as their president, it's a shame the UK didn't follow their lead You want an American who sexually abuses women to be president of the UK? Some bizarre things on here. This is up there." Well remember this, Hitler was kind to dogs but that didn't make him a good person | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Either way I think it sends a message to the very liberal people to stop the woke agenda Why are you thinking that only "very liberal" people have an agenda to be aware of social injustice, especially racism? Woke don't mean social injustice I'm afraid and this isn't my thinking " The UK have just rejected all this anti woke nonsense, and blaming everything on immigrants at the last election . You can’t win election in the UK blaming everything you don’t like or understand on the ‘woke ‘ | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Great news! 🇺🇸 Unless you're a woman, or an ordinary American, or understand climate change. But especially good news if you're a billion living in America. Yerrrr lefty Liberal looney " another reason the Democrats lost the election | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Either way I think it sends a message to the very liberal people to stop the woke agenda Why are you thinking that only "very liberal" people have an agenda to be aware of social injustice, especially racism? Woke don't mean social injustice I'm afraid and this isn't my thinking The UK have just rejected all this anti woke nonsense, and blaming everything on immigrants at the last election . You can’t win election in the UK blaming everything you don’t like or understand on the ‘woke ‘ " Labour winning weren't a landslide in most seats that they won were very marginal. In fact the vote share that Keir Starmer won on was lower then Jeremy Corbyn got back in 2019 so what does that say | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"Either way I think it sends a message to the very liberal people to stop the woke agenda Why are you thinking that only "very liberal" people have an agenda to be aware of social injustice, especially racism? Woke don't mean social injustice I'm afraid and this isn't my thinking The UK have just rejected all this anti woke nonsense, and blaming everything on immigrants at the last election . You can’t win election in the UK blaming everything you don’t like or understand on the ‘woke ‘ Labour winning weren't a landslide in most seats that they won were very marginal. In fact the vote share that Keir Starmer won on was lower then Jeremy Corbyn got back in 2019 so what does that say " 411 seat says otherwise , | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"I'm glad that the Americans voted Trump as their president, it's a shame the UK didn't follow their lead Who did you want to be PM? Not Keir Starmer that's for sure, you guys were better off having Nigel Farage as PM" ------------------ Why do you say that? I don't think he has the same self proclaimed affection for buh-lack men as Trump does. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
| |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |
"most uneducated voters will fall for Trump" "Fall for" ...to be tricked into believing something that is not true: He told me he owned a mansion in Spain and I fell for it. It might be true that one needs to be naive to support a politician. It might be true that Trump need a particular kind of naivety. But this is true across the board in the US, surely. All the university education in the US didn't help the cream of the Democratic establishment to secure a victory, in what should've been an easy win for them. Ultimately, it's statements like the above that energise "the deplored" and "the uneducated" to say "fuck you" and vote against them. Donald Trump thanks you. | |||
Reply privately (closed, thread got too big) |