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BBC reporting the number of babies born in England and Wales is now the lowest since the 1970’s
The fertility rate which measures how many children are born per woman during her child-bearing years - is the lowest on record at 1.44. Scotland's is even lower at 1.3.
Data from the recent UK Generations and Gender Survey, suggests that childless adults today are far less confident they will have children, with a quarter of 18 to 25-year-olds saying they would probably or definitely not have a child.
"Gen Z are more likely to want to stay childless," she says. "Before, it might have been more of a taboo - it's now more acceptable.
"And it's down to economic factors like future income, childcare costs and employment."
With an ageing population who will replace the workforce |
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"BBC reporting the number of babies born in England and Wales is now the lowest since the 1970’s
The fertility rate which measures how many children are born per woman during her child-bearing years - is the lowest on record at 1.44. Scotland's is even lower at 1.3.
Data from the recent UK Generations and Gender Survey, suggests that childless adults today are far less confident they will have children, with a quarter of 18 to 25-year-olds saying they would probably or definitely not have a child.
"Gen Z are more likely to want to stay childless," she says. "Before, it might have been more of a taboo - it's now more acceptable.
"And it's down to economic factors like future income, childcare costs and employment."
With an ageing population who will replace the workforce "
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The number of reasons why people used to have kids in the past has been slowly going down. The drop in birth rates in Western countries has less to do with money and more to do with change in cultural values. |
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"The prospects for the next generations don't look good, why bring a child into a world full of poverty, war, disease,corruption and climate disasters.
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Birth rates were higher during world wars and periods of colonisation. Pretty sure the prospects were worse then. |
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"The prospects for the next generations don't look good, why bring a child into a world full of poverty, war, disease,corruption and climate disasters.
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You're a 'glass half empty' person aren't you? |
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Birth rates decline when things are good,,children are insurance for poor people in their old age. If you look at who’s still having the children it’s predominantly those not going to university and also those on benefits - security. |
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"Birth rates decline when things are good,,children are insurance for poor people in their old age. If you look at who’s still having the children it’s predominantly those not going to university and also those on benefits - security."
id say the opposite, i remember after the recession all schools near us had places available expecially the more village rural (better) schools and they said theyd been a drop in births during the recession
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The reasons people had kids in the past
1) To look after themselves in the old age
2) Religion
3) Social pressure
4) Sense of fulfilment in life
When people become rich or when government promises to look after them in the old age (1) stops being a reason.
Religion and social pressure don't exist anymore.
People have lot of things to do in their lives. Many see having kids as an obstacle to their personal goals. Even the ones who have kids just have 1 or 2 because gone are the times when people needed many kids because the survival rates of kids were lower.
Overall, societies have been victims of their own success. |
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Of the 20 or so friends in my social circles (all Gen X'ers), I don't know of any with children. Neither is it something we discuss when we meet socially. Completely off the radar.
I suppose it is something some of the coupled friends might have discussed in the past, but clearly not a priority of any importance to any of them. |
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"Of the 20 or so friends in my social circles (all Gen X'ers), I don't know of any with children. Neither is it something we discuss when we meet socially. Completely off the radar.
I suppose it is something some of the coupled friends might have discussed in the past, but clearly not a priority of any importance to any of them."
My friends are the opposite, also mostly genX most of us have 2-5 children, my only regret is not having more! |
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In the past it was possible for a house to maintained on one income while one parent stayed home to raise the kids usually the mum.
Now it takes both potential parents working full time to keep the lights on and if a child comes along the cost of childcare is crazy. I think it comes down to affordability in a lot of cases. |
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"In the past it was possible for a house to maintained on one income while one parent stayed home to raise the kids usually the mum.
Now it takes both potential parents working full time to keep the lights on and if a child comes along the cost of childcare is crazy. I think it comes down to affordability in a lot of cases."
Countries have tried giving out money for childcare and longer maternity leave. Nothing helps. If someone really wants to have a kid, they can. Many people just don't want kids. |
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"In the past it was possible for a house to maintained on one income while one parent stayed home to raise the kids usually the mum.
Now it takes both potential parents working full time to keep the lights on and if a child comes along the cost of childcare is crazy. I think it comes down to affordability in a lot of cases.
Countries have tried giving out money for childcare and longer maternity leave. Nothing helps. If someone really wants to have a kid, they can. Many people just don't want kids."
most see that kids now just create so much hassle take up every little bit of time and money that you barely even have, gone have the days of the man going to work and mum looking after the kids they didnt earn enough tax that way |
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"BBC reporting the number of babies born in England and Wales is now the lowest since the 1970’s
The fertility rate which measures how many children are born per woman during her child-bearing years - is the lowest on record at 1.44. Scotland's is even lower at 1.3.
Data from the recent UK Generations and Gender Survey, suggests that childless adults today are far less confident they will have children, with a quarter of 18 to 25-year-olds saying they would probably or definitely not have a child.
"Gen Z are more likely to want to stay childless," she says. "Before, it might have been more of a taboo - it's now more acceptable.
"And it's down to economic factors like future income, childcare costs and employment."
With an ageing population who will replace the workforce "
Immigrants let them in let them work, let them set up family's.
But don't give them so much free saving the tax payer marking it more exceptaball to the masses. |
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"The prospects for the next generations don't look good, why bring a child into a world full of poverty, war, disease,corruption and climate disasters.
You're a 'glass half empty' person aren't you?"
Why not?
Glass half empty is somtimes a realistic viewpoint. I consider myself incredibly lucky to have lived during a golden age unlikely to be bettered. |
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"The prospects for the next generations don't look good, why bring a child into a world full of poverty, war, disease,corruption and climate disasters.
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well said. Also the high taxes on alcohol have defo effected this. D*unken knee tremblers are down 40% lol |
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