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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Springfield |
Only a few weeks until the USA votes for a new (or old) President on November 5th. So predictions please- who wins and by how much ? |
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"Only a few weeks until the USA votes for a new (or old) President on November 5th. So predictions please- who wins and by how much ?"
Dead heat, settled by a duel.
Trump wins by playing dirty. |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Springfield |
I think Harris will top the popular vote, something like 52/48, but Trump will win the election by a couple of States. |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Only a few weeks until the USA votes for a new (or old) President on November 5th. So predictions please- who wins and by how much ?"
I was going to do a primer at some point as to what to look for
Might as well do it nowā¦.
Basically the election is going to come down to 6 statesā¦ the rust belt 3 (Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin) and the sun belt 3 (Georgia, Nevada and Arizona)
These are the 6 states Harris is playing a little bit of defence
The simplest way to put it would be that Trump would need to win 4 of those 6 states that Biden won last time to win the electionā¦..
And then there is the wild cardā¦. North Carolina
This is the one state last time trump won.. that Harris could this timeā¦ last time Trump beat Biden in NC by 0.8%
If Harris wins North Carolina, which is absolutely doableā¦ then trump would need 5 of the 6 swing states to win
I think Harris will win the rust belt 3ā¦ Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.. that gets her to 270 and she wins the election
I wouldnāt be surprised if she pulls off North Carolina as well |
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Ā I think Harris will win, by a close margin. The democrats did well replacing Biden. They would have lost it if he was their presidential candidate |
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Ā I read somewhere that the pollsters underestimated the Trump vote in 2020 so are overestimating it this time. Who knows. |
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Ā Trump wins for me sheās killing the dems with her interviews page sounds awfull |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"I read somewhere that the pollsters underestimated the Trump vote in 2020 so are overestimating it this time. Who knows."
That is an interesting questionā¦ because for example in Arizona, in Georgia, heck even in Florida (which is probably just out of reach in the presidential race, but the democrats winning the senate seat is doable because the sitting republican is so unpopular) there is also certain abortion right statues that are on the ballot as well that may drive certain people out to vote
My best guess is ādown ballotā both house and senate flip , just because of what is needing to be defended on the Democratic Party side in this senate cycle
I think the house will go from republican to democratic controlā¦
the senate from democratic to republican control |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Springfield |
Trump slight favourite with bookmakers if that means anything. š¤·āāļø
Both Harris and Trump suggesting they will go on the Joe Rogan podcast !  |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Springfield |
"Only a few weeks until the USA votes for a new (or old) President on November 5th. So predictions please- who wins and by how much ?
I was going to do a primer at some point as to what to look for
Might as well do it nowā¦.
Basically the election is going to come down to 6 statesā¦ the rust belt 3 (Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin) and the sun belt 3 (Georgia, Nevada and Arizona)
These are the 6 states Harris is playing a little bit of defence
The simplest way to put it would be that Trump would need to win 4 of those 6 states that Biden won last time to win the electionā¦..
And then there is the wild cardā¦. North Carolina
This is the one state last time trump won.. that Harris could this timeā¦ last time Trump beat Biden in NC by 0.8%
If Harris wins North Carolina, which is absolutely doableā¦ then trump would need 5 of the 6 swing states to win
I think Harris will win the rust belt 3ā¦ Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.. that gets her to 270 and she wins the election
I wouldnāt be surprised if she pulls off North Carolina as well "
Thanks Fabio, excellent analysis. |
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Ā Hopefully Trump so I can come and see you lot throw your toys out the pram |
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By *d4ugirlsManĀ 5 weeks ago
Green Cove Springs |
"Hopefully Trump so I can come and see you lot throw your toys out the pram "
Lol, yep there will be plenty of melt downs.
Fabian, the democratic response to the hurricane un North Carolina is non existent and is being carried out by the public.
Thank you kamala and joey you have hopefully sealed up the vote for President Trump in NC |
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Ā Not too bothered about the U.S election but if I had to pick, with the greatest reluctancy I would vote for Donald Trump based on economic policy alone |
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"Only a few weeks until the USA votes for a new (or old) President on November 5th. So predictions please- who wins and by how much ?"
The polls have it as a win for the Democrats. But then again polls always seem to reflect more votes for the democrats than they actually get. So who knows. |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Not too bothered about the U.S election but if I had to pick, with the greatest reluctancy I would vote for Donald Trump based on economic policy alone"
Thatās an interesting perceptionā¦ because the communist leftists rag .. the Rupert murdoch owned.. Wall Street Journal literally started yesterday that 70% of economists believe that Harris proposal for the economy would be better than Trump
Also that trumps economic policies would lead to higher inflation, interest rates and deficit than under Harris
And the federal budget deficit would increase by twice the number than it would under Harris
So.. if you were using the fiscal argumentā¦
Democrats actually run the country way more fiscally than republicans doā¦ and itās basically Been that way for 50 years |
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Ā I think there's going to be a twist in the tale of this year's election. Possibly a dispute about who actually won.
Whatever happens it'll not be a totally free and fair election.
Just a hunch/opinion.
Side note....did you see the car crash CBS 60 minutes interview with harris? Absolutely hilarious. Her answers were so stupid and vague that the interviewer had to over dub his own voice to explain an answer she gave to a question. Her non-answer word salads are legendary!
It's a good thing that whoever gets elected neither Trump or harris makes any decisions about what happens in America. |
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"Not too bothered about the U.S election but if I had to pick, with the greatest reluctancy I would vote for Donald Trump based on economic policy alone"
Whatās his policies? |
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"I think there's going to be a twist in the tale of this year's election. Possibly a dispute about who actually won.
Whatever happens it'll not be a totally free and fair election.
Just a hunch/opinion.
Side note....did you see the car crash CBS 60 minutes interview with harris? Absolutely hilarious. Her answers were so stupid and vague that the interviewer had to over dub his own voice to explain an answer she gave to a question. Her non-answer word salads are legendary!
It's a good thing that whoever gets elected neither Trump or harris makes any decisions about what happens in America. "
sheās worse on interviews than biden lol |
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Ā I seem to remember analysts saying the Democrats do less well in polls because people don't like admitting they vote that way..didn't Biden do better than the polls predicted? |
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Ā Absolutely true trumps tariffs plan will increase inflation in the states he has repeatedly lied on cutting social security and getting rid of Obama care this would be devestating to a majority of older Americans. The only reason the economy was good when trump was president is the 78 consecutive months of job growth under Obama who left trump with a good economy which started going down hill after trumps first year
Sorry rant over
Charlie. Ex us resident |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"I think there's going to be a twist in the tale of this year's election. Possibly a dispute about who actually won.
Whatever happens it'll not be a totally free and fair election.
Just a hunch/opinion.
Side note....did you see the car crash CBS 60 minutes interview with harris? Absolutely hilarious. Her answers were so stupid and vague that the interviewer had to over dub his own voice to explain an answer she gave to a question. Her non-answer word salads are legendary!
It's a good thing that whoever gets elected neither Trump or harris makes any decisions about what happens in America.
sheās worse on interviews than biden lol"
Lets just look at the last week:
He refuses to do the 60 minutes interview (and then comes up with a number of excuses)
He refuses to release his medical records (if this had been Biden republicans would have lost their shit!)
He managed to mess up a soft ball interview on Fox News (in fact the only place he now does any interviews is trump friendly networks)
At his own organised town hall event last night, he stopped taking questions, finished it 40 minutes early and just danced around on the stage like a senile DJ
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"I think there's going to be a twist in the tale of this year's election. Possibly a dispute about who actually won.
Whatever happens it'll not be a totally free and fair election.
Just a hunch/opinion.
Side note....did you see the car crash CBS 60 minutes interview with harris? Absolutely hilarious. Her answers were so stupid and vague that the interviewer had to over dub his own voice to explain an answer she gave to a question. Her non-answer word salads are legendary!
It's a good thing that whoever gets elected neither Trump or harris makes any decisions about what happens in America.
sheās worse on interviews than biden lol
Lets just look at the last week:
He refuses to do the 60 minutes interview (and then comes up with a number of excuses)
He refuses to release his medical records (if this had been Biden republicans would have lost their shit!)
He managed to mess up a soft ball interview on Fox News (in fact the only place he now does any interviews is trump friendly networks)
At his own organised town hall event last night, he stopped taking questions, finished it 40 minutes early and just danced around on the stage like a senile DJ
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How bad does that make her look and sound, The Man can talk shite at times, has got people taking shots, literally from all angles, In bed with the Russians some people say and acts like a "senile DJ" and yet its still very close |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Springfield |
Neither candidate is particularly impressive.  |
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"I think Harris will win, by a close margin. The democrats did well replacing Biden. They would have lost it if he was their presidential candidate "
I agree, replacing Biden was key and seems to have turned things around. |
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Ā Given 2016 and the predictions that Trump wonāt win with the accompanying scoffing I think anything can happen.
Going to be a great election night. Will be watching with interest. |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Springfield |
"Given 2016 and the predictions that Trump wonāt win with the accompanying scoffing I think anything can happen.
Going to be a great election night. Will be watching with interest. "
Three weeks today  |
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By *os19ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Edmonton |
Not the most politically clued up but I know my way around betting odds.Ladbrokes have Trump at 4/6 and Harris 6/5. Thinking of have Ā£20 on Judd Trump to win Snooker Northern Ireland Open at 7/2 and Donald Trump to win US election at 4/6.The double works out 13/2 pays out Ā£150. |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Springfield |
"Not the most politically clued up but I know my way around betting odds.Ladbrokes have Trump at 4/6 and Harris 6/5. Thinking of have Ā£20 on Judd Trump to win Snooker Northern Ireland Open at 7/2 and Donald Trump to win US election at 4/6.The double works out 13/2 pays out Ā£150."
A friend who likes a punt backed Harris at 6/1 as soon as Biden said he wasn't standing. |
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By *os19ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Edmonton |
"Not the most politically clued up but I know my way around betting odds.Ladbrokes have Trump at 4/6 and Harris 6/5. Thinking of have Ā£20 on Judd Trump to win Snooker Northern Ireland Open at 7/2 and Donald Trump to win US election at 4/6.The double works out 13/2 pays out Ā£150.
A friend who likes a punt backed Harris at 6/1 as soon as Biden said he wasn't standing."
. Good luck to your friend who likes a punt.I will probably go with the Trump double as the snooker starts next week. |
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Ā Paddy power in ire has trump even odds. I bet a few hundred on trump so if he wins I can drown my sorrows a bit  |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Given 2016 and the predictions that Trump wonāt win with the accompanying scoffing I think anything can happen.
Going to be a great election night. Will be watching with interest. "
Let me save you a good nights sleepā¦
This election will not be decided on election night!
Just because of the various different ways the republicans have tried to suppress the voting and counting process.. I doubt that Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin will be called on the night!
I have a bet with a friend it wonāt be called till Friday |
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Ā Going out on a limb here but I'm going to punt
Harris win popular vote
Harris win electoral college
And
Badenoch to be next conservative leader |
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By *d4ugirlsManĀ 5 weeks ago
Green Cove Springs |
"I think Harris will win, by a close margin. The democrats did well replacing Biden. They would have lost it if he was their presidential candidate
I agree, replacing Biden was key and seems to have turned things around."
Installed a candidate just as incompetent as joey. Americas failings in the last four years are just attributable to kamal as joey.she touts change, why has she waited this long, and what gives anyone confidence that her change will be any better.
You are 100 percent correct obama will be pulling the puppet strings for kamala and little tampon timmy.
Trump will stand alone and be carrying out his own agenda.
Lots of legislation by individual states that has made the voting process hopefully more transparent and less susceptible to fraud.
We shall see. |
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Ā Would like to see Trump win.
Harris and the Democratic Party have been utterly unfit to govern the last few years.
Strong leadership is needed |
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Ā Do you think trump won in 2020?
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Installed a candidate just as incompetent as joey. Americas failings in the last four years are just attributable to kamal as joey.she touts change, why has she waited this long, and what gives anyone confidence that her change will be any better.
You are 100 percent correct obama will be pulling the puppet strings for kamala and little tampon timmy.
Trump will stand alone and be carrying out his own agenda.
Lots of legislation by individual states that has made the voting process hopefully more transparent and less susceptible to fraud.
We shall see."
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"Would like to see Trump win.
Harris and the Democratic Party have been utterly unfit to govern the last few years.
Strong leadership is needed"
You seem to have contradicted yourself here. Do you want trump to win, or do you want strong leadership? |
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"I think Harris will win, by a close margin. The democrats did well replacing Biden. They would have lost it if he was their presidential candidate
I agree, replacing Biden was key and seems to have turned things around."
As much as I don't like much of the policy being touted, it's definitely less awful than what Trump is offering.
America desperately needs a functioning human as president. It'll have been 8 years since they had anything like that. |
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Ā The dems have had the white house for 12 of the last 16 years and America is in the shitter. Trump promised so much (drain the swamp, lock her up...etc etc) but delivered so little. Anyone that thinks trump is some sort of saviour needs a boot up the arse....however, anyone that thinks harris is a sound, strong, robust and effective leader needs their arse booted also. Neither have the interests of the American people at heart and the agenda rolls on towards dystopia. |
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"The dems have had the white house for 12 of the last 16 years and America is in the shitter. Trump promised so much (drain the swamp, lock her up...etc etc) but delivered so little. Anyone that thinks trump is some sort of saviour needs a boot up the arse....however, anyone that thinks harris is a sound, strong, robust and effective leader needs their arse booted also. Neither have the interests of the American people at heart and the agenda rolls on towards dystopia. "
In the American system of Govenment, to have any real effect, you need to control the House of Representatives, Senate and White House.
Trump had all three and used it to pass laws that reduced Tax on companies like his own at a cost of $3 trillion in borrowing to the USA. He also altered the balance of SCOTUS to make it a branch of the extreme right wing of the Republican party.
Biden only has the Senate. He passed the Infrastructure Bill, despite Republican opposition, and other executive orders. A bipartisan bill, created by the senate to deal with the Southern border, was sent to the House and rejected on the orders of Trump so he could use it as an election issue.
Only one fact is clear and undeniable. This current term of the House, because of the MAGA zealots, has passed fewer Laws than any in the history of the USA. Something must be done to redress this in the November election. |
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By *otMe66ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Terra Firma |
Shares in tissues, you heard it here first get in now, itās a win, win.  |
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"Shares in tissues, you heard it here first get in now, itās a win, win. "
Lots of people waking to the US election?
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By *irldnCoupleĀ 5 weeks ago
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"Shares in tissues, you heard it here first get in now, itās a win, win.
Lots of people waking to the US election?
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Are we playing the lost consonant Johnny? |
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"Shares in tissues, you heard it here first get in now, itās a win, win.
Lots of people waking to the US election?
Are we playing the lost consonant Johnny? "
Serves me right for posting a terrible joke before I'm properly awake! |
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Ā whatever happens, the old senile bloke says he is fighting the last three weeks of the campaign on the topic of blanket window removal and wholesale cow executions .....  |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"The dems have had the white house for 12 of the last 16 years and America is in the shitter. Trump promised so much (drain the swamp, lock her up...etc etc) but delivered so little. Anyone that thinks trump is some sort of saviour needs a boot up the arse....however, anyone that thinks harris is a sound, strong, robust and effective leader needs their arse booted also. Neither have the interests of the American people at heart and the agenda rolls on towards dystopia.
In the American system of Govenment, to have any real effect, you need to control the House of Representatives, Senate and White House.
Trump had all three and used it to pass laws that reduced Tax on companies like his own at a cost of $3 trillion in borrowing to the USA. He also altered the balance of SCOTUS to make it a branch of the extreme right wing of the Republican party.
Biden only has the Senate. He passed the Infrastructure Bill, despite Republican opposition, and other executive orders. A bipartisan bill, created by the senate to deal with the Southern border, was sent to the House and rejected on the orders of Trump so he could use it as an election issue.
Only one fact is clear and undeniable. This current term of the House, because of the MAGA zealots, has passed fewer Laws than any in the history of the USA. Something must be done to redress this in the November election. "
Adding to this, Obama only had control of both the house and senate for 2 of his 8 years in officeā¦ when he had full control his passed the affordable care act
Getting 40 million people healthcareā¦ as opposed to a 3 trillion dollar tax cut put onto the deficit
Shows the parties priorities I supposeā¦ |
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"I think Harris will win, by a close margin. The democrats did well replacing Biden. They would have lost it if he was their presidential candidate
I agree, replacing Biden was key and seems to have turned things around.
As much as I don't like much of the policy being touted, it's definitely less awful than what Trump is offering.
America desperately needs a functioning human as president. It'll have been 8 years since they had anything like that. "
you think the USA needs more migrants then lol I think thatās whatās going to fuck it up for Harris it was her job and she was a fuck up |
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"I think Harris will win, by a close margin. The democrats did well replacing Biden. They would have lost it if he was their presidential candidate
I agree, replacing Biden was key and seems to have turned things around.
As much as I don't like much of the policy being touted, it's definitely less awful than what Trump is offering.
America desperately needs a functioning human as president. It'll have been 8 years since they had anything like that. you think the USA needs more migrants
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You've mixed me up with someone else. I haven't commented on US immigration.
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then lol I think thatās whatās going to fuck it up for Harris it was her job and she was a fuck up"
This is a good point though. People have no idea what's going on, even when it's spelled out for them in a thread they're contributing to. I can see why some people would think voting for Trump is a good idea if they're willfully ignoring reality. |
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"I think Harris will win, by a close margin. The democrats did well replacing Biden. They would have lost it if he was their presidential candidate
I agree, replacing Biden was key and seems to have turned things around.
As much as I don't like much of the policy being touted, it's definitely less awful than what Trump is offering.
America desperately needs a functioning human as president. It'll have been 8 years since they had anything like that. you think the USA needs more migrants
You've mixed me up with someone else. I haven't commented on US immigration.
then lol I think thatās whatās going to fuck it up for Harris it was her job and she was a fuck up
This is a good point though. People have no idea what's going on, even when it's spelled out for them in a thread they're contributing to. I can see why some people would think voting for Trump is a good idea if they're willfully ignoring reality. "
maybe they seen the interview with Harris when asked questions she said she would take a holistic approach apparently putin shit a brick thought it was a new missile until he googled it then fell of his chair laughing |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"I think Harris will win, by a close margin. The democrats did well replacing Biden. They would have lost it if he was their presidential candidate
I agree, replacing Biden was key and seems to have turned things around.
As much as I don't like much of the policy being touted, it's definitely less awful than what Trump is offering.
America desperately needs a functioning human as president. It'll have been 8 years since they had anything like that.
you think the USA needs more migrants then lol I think thatās whatās going to fuck it up for Harris it was her job and she was a fuck up"
Actuallyā¦.. it doesā¦ in the sense of legal migration
For example, our lovely Haitian immigrants who are living in Springfield, Ohio (they of the now infamous eating petās smears) were actually placed there under trumpās TPS (temporary protective status) scheme specifically to help local factories because there were not enough local residents to do the jobs
Without migration there would be no low market meat packaging industries, there would be no mass agricultural industry, there would be no mass building industry
To name but a few |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Springfield |
Betting markets currently have Trump at highest probability of winning since Harris became Dem candidate. Roughly they have Trump at 55% chance of winning against 45% for Harris. |
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"I think Harris will win, by a close margin. The democrats did well replacing Biden. They would have lost it if he was their presidential candidate
I agree, replacing Biden was key and seems to have turned things around.
As much as I don't like much of the policy being touted, it's definitely less awful than what Trump is offering.
America desperately needs a functioning human as president. It'll have been 8 years since they had anything like that. you think the USA needs more migrants
You've mixed me up with someone else. I haven't commented on US immigration.
then lol I think thatās whatās going to fuck it up for Harris it was her job and she was a fuck up
This is a good point though. People have no idea what's going on, even when it's spelled out for them in a thread they're contributing to. I can see why some people would think voting for Trump is a good idea if they're willfully ignoring reality. maybe they seen the interview with Harris when asked questions she said she would take a holistic approach apparently putin shit a brick thought it was a new missile until he googled it then fell of his chair laughing "
Maybe who has seen what interview?
Why would Putin "shit a brick" or fall off his chair over an interview with the VP? |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Betting markets currently have Trump at highest probability of winning since Harris became Dem candidate. Roughly they have Trump at 55% chance of winning against 45% for Harris."
Betting markets are there so that bookies have the same money on both sides so they donāt loseā¦.
Nate silver who did 538.com and now does his own independent stuff on his political modelling has it 50.7-49.3 in favour of Harris and the gap has narrowed a lot!
Who has momentum at the moment? Good questionā¦ what I would say if that Harris is doing all media ( breakfast club yesterday, Fox News with bret baier tonight, Univision tomorrow, the Joe rogan podcast next week, and a cnn town hall next week) ā¦ and Trump seems to be retreating to as little as possible ( cancelled on CNBC yesterday, the not very good interview with the Bloomberg reporter, his very weird town halls where he refused to answer questions and turned dj)
The more they are questioning his mental acuity (he told people to go and vote on January 5th yesterdayā¦ imagine if it had been Biden who had said that.. he would have been getting pelted!) the more he is regressing to doing trump friendly puff pieces
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By *atonManĀ 5 weeks ago
barnet |
Who cares? Endemic of America that two absolute morons are the best they can come up with to contest the most powerful office in the world. Apart from the knesset cos everyone now knows that Israel runs the cosmos. |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Springfield |
"Betting markets currently have Trump at highest probability of winning since Harris became Dem candidate. Roughly they have Trump at 55% chance of winning against 45% for Harris.
Betting markets are there so that bookies have the same money on both sides so they donāt loseā¦.
Nate silver who did 538.com and now does his own independent stuff on his political modelling has it 50.7-49.3 in favour of Harris and the gap has narrowed a lot!
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I believe 538.com gave Hilary Clinton a 70% chance of winning in 2016 so perhaps not the most reliable source. |
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"Who cares? Endemic of America that two absolute morons are the best they can come up with to contest the most powerful office in the world. Apart from the knesset cos everyone now knows that Israel runs the cosmos."
People care for various reasons. US is a world power, the stability of that country has a knock on effect. If they elect someone who thinks science isn't real, they'll pull out of the Paris climate agreement again. Etc.
Some people have empathy for ordinary Americans who have been having a bad time of it the last 8 years.
And because people care because US news gets disproportionately reported in the news here. And because Trump is always news worthy with whatever mad shit he's saying and doing, whom he's been sexually abusing etc. |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Betting markets currently have Trump at highest probability of winning since Harris became Dem candidate. Roughly they have Trump at 55% chance of winning against 45% for Harris.
Betting markets are there so that bookies have the same money on both sides so they donāt loseā¦.
Nate silver who did 538.com and now does his own independent stuff on his political modelling has it 50.7-49.3 in favour of Harris and the gap has narrowed a lot!
I believe 538.com gave Hilary Clinton a 70% chance of winning in 2016 so perhaps not the most reliable source."
And the modelling has changed a lot in the last 8 yearsā¦ so your point is basic you believe more in paddy power? |
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"Betting markets currently have Trump at highest probability of winning since Harris became Dem candidate. Roughly they have Trump at 55% chance of winning against 45% for Harris."
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Ā the old guy got so confused he wasn't able to answer more than a couple of minutes of questions in a coherent fashion and they had to play music for almost an hour instead .... now that's freakin weird |
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"I think Harris will win, by a close margin. The democrats did well replacing Biden. They would have lost it if he was their presidential candidate
I agree, replacing Biden was key and seems to have turned things around.
As much as I don't like much of the policy being touted, it's definitely less awful than what Trump is offering.
America desperately needs a functioning human as president. It'll have been 8 years since they had anything like that. you think the USA needs more migrants
You've mixed me up with someone else. I haven't commented on US immigration.
then lol I think thatās whatās going to fuck it up for Harris it was her job and she was a fuck up
This is a good point though. People have no idea what's going on, even when it's spelled out for them in a thread they're contributing to. I can see why some people would think voting for Trump is a good idea if they're willfully ignoring reality. maybe they seen the interview with Harris when asked questions she said she would take a holistic approach apparently putin shit a brick thought it was a new missile until he googled it then fell of his chair laughing
Maybe who has seen what interview?
Why would Putin "shit a brick" or fall off his chair over an interview with the VP?"
aw sorry you wonāt of seen it it wasnāt on the bbc I believe lol |
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"I think Harris will win, by a close margin. The democrats did well replacing Biden. They would have lost it if he was their presidential candidate
I agree, replacing Biden was key and seems to have turned things around.
As much as I don't like much of the policy being touted, it's definitely less awful than what Trump is offering.
America desperately needs a functioning human as president. It'll have been 8 years since they had anything like that. you think the USA needs more migrants
You've mixed me up with someone else. I haven't commented on US immigration.
then lol I think thatās whatās going to fuck it up for Harris it was her job and she was a fuck up
This is a good point though. People have no idea what's going on, even when it's spelled out for them in a thread they're contributing to. I can see why some people would think voting for Trump is a good idea if they're willfully ignoring reality. maybe they seen the interview with Harris when asked questions she said she would take a holistic approach apparently putin shit a brick thought it was a new missile until he googled it then fell of his chair laughing
Maybe who has seen what interview?
Why would Putin "shit a brick" or fall off his chair over an interview with the VP?aw sorry you wonāt of seen it it wasnāt on the bbc I believe lol"
I have no idea what interview you're talking about, why you're talking about the BBC, why you were talking about Putin, or what any of this has got to do with the points being made above.
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"I think Harris will win, by a close margin. The democrats did well replacing Biden. They would have lost it if he was their presidential candidate
I agree, replacing Biden was key and seems to have turned things around.
As much as I don't like much of the policy being touted, it's definitely less awful than what Trump is offering.
America desperately needs a functioning human as president. It'll have been 8 years since they had anything like that. you think the USA needs more migrants
You've mixed me up with someone else. I haven't commented on US immigration.
then lol I think thatās whatās going to fuck it up for Harris it was her job and she was a fuck up
This is a good point though. People have no idea what's going on, even when it's spelled out for them in a thread they're contributing to. I can see why some people would think voting for Trump is a good idea if they're willfully ignoring reality. maybe they seen the interview with Harris when asked questions she said she would take a holistic approach apparently putin shit a brick thought it was a new missile until he googled it then fell of his chair laughing
Maybe who has seen what interview?
Why would Putin "shit a brick" or fall off his chair over an interview with the VP?aw sorry you wonāt of seen it it wasnāt on the bbc I believe lol"
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How bad does that make her look and sound, The Man can talk shite at times, has got people taking shots, literally from all angles, In bed with the Russians some people say and acts like a "senile DJ" and yet its still very close "
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"Would like to see Trump win.
Harris and the Democratic Party have been utterly unfit to govern the last few years.
Strong leadership is needed
You seem to have contradicted yourself here. Do you want trump to win, or do you want strong leadership?"
Havenāt contradicted a thing, the only thing thatās black and white is that the dems have had the chances to govern, secure the border and aid with the cost of living crisis.
All theyāve done is point the finger elsewhere
Just remember too, that this is my opinion and that it shouldnāt hurt your feelings |
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"Would like to see Trump win.
Harris and the Democratic Party have been utterly unfit to govern the last few years.
Strong leadership is needed
You seem to have contradicted yourself here. Do you want trump to win, or do you want strong leadership?
Havenāt contradicted a thing, the only thing thatās black and white is that the dems have had the chances to govern, secure the border and aid with the cost of living crisis.
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You can see above comments from other posters that debunk these statements you've just made.
And anyway what's this got to do with your contradiction? Remember you asserted "Would like to see Trump win." And "Strong leadership is needed". Statements that appear contradictory.
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All theyāve done is point the finger elsewhere
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Who? What's this got to do with Trump being a weak leader?
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Just remember too, that this is my opinion and that it shouldnāt hurt your feelings "
People being confused about Trump doesn't hurt anyone's feelings. As far as I'm aware anyway. So you're all good. |
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By *oufouCoupleĀ 5 weeks ago
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" Remember you asserted "Would like to see Trump win." And "Strong leadership is needed". Statements that appear contradictory."
Ouchā¦ š |
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"The dems have had the white house for 12 of the last 16 years and America is in the shitter. Trump promised so much (drain the swamp, lock her up...etc etc) but delivered so little. Anyone that thinks trump is some sort of saviour needs a boot up the arse....however, anyone that thinks harris is a sound, strong, robust and effective leader needs their arse booted also. Neither have the interests of the American people at heart and the agenda rolls on towards dystopia.
In the American system of Govenment, to have any real effect, you need to control the House of Representatives, Senate and White House.
Trump had all three and used it to pass laws that reduced Tax on companies like his own at a cost of $3 trillion in borrowing to the USA. He also altered the balance of SCOTUS to make it a branch of the extreme right wing of the Republican party.
Biden only has the Senate. He passed the Infrastructure Bill, despite Republican opposition, and other executive orders. A bipartisan bill, created by the senate to deal with the Southern border, was sent to the House and rejected on the orders of Trump so he could use it as an election issue.
Only one fact is clear and undeniable. This current term of the House, because of the MAGA zealots, has passed fewer Laws than any in the history of the USA. Something must be done to redress this in the November election.
Adding to this, Obama only had control of both the house and senate for 2 of his 8 years in officeā¦ when he had full control his passed the affordable care act
Getting 40 million people healthcareā¦ as opposed to a 3 trillion dollar tax cut put onto the deficit
Shows the parties priorities I supposeā¦"
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
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"Betting markets currently have Trump at highest probability of winning since Harris became Dem candidate. Roughly they have Trump at 55% chance of winning against 45% for Harris.
Betting markets are there so that bookies have the same money on both sides so they donāt loseā¦.
Nate silver who did 538.com and now does his own independent stuff on his political modelling has it 50.7-49.3 in favour of Harris and the gap has narrowed a lot!
I believe 538.com gave Hilary Clinton a 70% chance of winning in 2016 so perhaps not the most reliable source.
And the modelling has changed a lot in the last 8 yearsā¦ so your point is basic you believe more in paddy power?"
Ā£5 charity wager, Fabio ? |
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Doesn't look good ... |
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By *abluesbabyManĀ 5 weeks ago
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US Election - Who Wins ? - The only thing I do know is the good citizens of the USA lose. I genuinely think Trump is showing "degenerative" signs of being Compos mentis. Same as afflicted Biden but not as severe by a long way. But he's already a compulsive lying "man-child" to start with. Harris is a very poor orator, unable to hold her own in interviews and seems bereft of basic knowledge you'd expect a candidate to possess.
I am really glad I don't have a dog in this fight. Red or Blue??? Neither very poor candidate is a winner to me. |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
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"US Election - Who Wins ? - The only thing I do know is the good citizens of the USA lose. I genuinely think Trump is showing "degenerative" signs of being Compos mentis. Same as afflicted Biden but not as severe by a long way. But he's already a compulsive lying "man-child" to start with. Harris is a very poor orator, unable to hold her own in interviews and seems bereft of basic knowledge you'd expect a candidate to possess.
I am really glad I don't have a dog in this fight. Red or Blue??? Neither very poor candidate is a winner to me. "
Yes, its amazing that these are the best candidates they can find ! Both seem hopeless in different ways.  |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Springfield |
"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13971075/What-Biden-Obama-said-intense-moment-Ethel-Kennedys-funeral.html?ico=article_preview_xp_mobile
Doesn't look good ..."
It seems like momentum has swung back towards Trump but still a lot could happen. |
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By *abluesbabyManĀ 5 weeks ago
Gibraltar/Cheshire/London |
"US Election - Who Wins ? - The only thing I do know is the good citizens of the USA lose. I genuinely think Trump is showing "degenerative" signs of being Compos mentis. Same as afflicted Biden but not as severe by a long way. But he's already a compulsive lying "man-child" to start with. Harris is a very poor orator, unable to hold her own in interviews and seems bereft of basic knowledge you'd expect a candidate to possess.
I am really glad I don't have a dog in this fight. Red or Blue??? Neither very poor candidate is a winner to me.
Yes, its amazing that these are the best candidates they can find ! Both seem hopeless in different ways. "
I think the VP debate really hit that home. Again both VP candidates have "issues" shall we say but they came across as sober, skilled, clued-up statesmen when compared to their hopeless prospective bosses! |
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If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
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""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this "
Ahemā¦ you might want into this whole āTrump/Farageā thingā¦ both have actively gotten involved in each otherās campaigns
In normal times the conservatives would have had a close relationship with the republicans and the two have swapped political election āadvisorsā in the past
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""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this
Ahemā¦ you might want into this whole āTrump/Farageā thingā¦ both have actively gotten involved in each otherās campaigns
In normal times the conservatives would have had a close relationship with the republicans and the two have swapped political election āadvisorsā in the past
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I didn't know he was a member of parliament when he joined Trump on a few of his campaigns, Either way they or he shouldn't be interfering with other countries elections, Especially if the tax payer is paying for it |
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By *abluesbabyManĀ 5 weeks ago
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""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this
Ahemā¦ you might want into this whole āTrump/Farageā thingā¦ both have actively gotten involved in each otherās campaigns
In normal times the conservatives would have had a close relationship with the republicans and the two have swapped political election āadvisorsā in the past
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This is an interesting one. Whether they're Tories, Labour, UKIP, Reform or whatever they're not - I think its pretty safe to say - eligible to vote in November. At what point legally then does it become Election Interference in a Foreign Country?
I admit I certainly don't know the answer but I know that crime exists in International Law though! |
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""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this "
You missed "of staff". You edited the quote to make it sound more dramatic.
The funny thing here is Musk getting involved saying "this is illegal". Yet he has no issues interfering all over the shop.
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
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""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this
Ahemā¦ you might want into this whole āTrump/Farageā thingā¦ both have actively gotten involved in each otherās campaigns
In normal times the conservatives would have had a close relationship with the republicans and the two have swapped political election āadvisorsā in the past
This is an interesting one. Whether they're Tories, Labour, UKIP, Reform or whatever they're not - I think its pretty safe to say - eligible to vote in November. At what point legally then does it become Election Interference in a Foreign Country?
I admit I certainly don't know the answer but I know that crime exists in International Law though! "
Itās not.. because āadvisorsā tend to be freelancersā¦ itās that they tend to have the same political leanings
So .. pollsters, advisors, tacticians ect |
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""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this
You missed "of staff". You edited the quote to make it sound more dramatic.
The funny thing here is Musk getting involved saying "this is illegal". Yet he has no issues interfering all over the shop.
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I didn't miss any of the quote, I came across it on Twitter, I then googled it and came across it on NBC 15 News, My point being anyone who is a MP or works for them shouldn't be interfering in other countries elections |
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By *oufouCoupleĀ 5 weeks ago
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""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this "
Itās a classic bit of British amateurismā¦ 100 members of the Labour Party in the last few weeks vs the entire Russian disinformation factory, which, most probably, has been working diligently for years. š |
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""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this
You missed "of staff". You edited the quote to make it sound more dramatic.
The funny thing here is Musk getting involved saying "this is illegal". Yet he has no issues interfering all over the shop.
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Unlike Alan sugar, Digby Jones etc
Though would of thought musk would of being too busy investing in Britain... oh wait š |
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""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this
You missed "of staff". You edited the quote to make it sound more dramatic.
The funny thing here is Musk getting involved saying "this is illegal". Yet he has no issues interfering all over the shop.
I didn't miss any of the quote, I came across it on Twitter, I then googled it and came across it on NBC 15 News, My point being anyone who is a MP or works for them shouldn't be interfering in other countries elections "
Okay then the Twitterer mis-quoted. |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
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""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this "
I imagine Angela Rayner flashing her growler could be decisive on the doorsteps of Pennsylvania. |
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Ā So the Labour party is sending its staff to support Kamala in the election. This is wrong in so many ways.
Why interfere with another country's elections? How is this any different from the "Russian interference" that most lefties cry about whenever a democratic decision goes against their choice?
Also, what happens if Trump wins? You end up starting at the back foot with the president of a country that's your biggest ally.
Looks like Labour cares more about other things over the country's future. |
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By *oufouCoupleĀ 5 weeks ago
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""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this
You missed "of staff". You edited the quote to make it sound more dramatic.
The funny thing here is Musk getting involved saying "this is illegal". Yet he has no issues interfering all over the shop.
I didn't miss any of the quote, I came across it on Twitter, I then googled it and came across it on NBC 15 News, My point being anyone who is a MP or works for them shouldn't be interfering in other countries elections
Okay then the Twitterer mis-quoted."
Technically, the Twitterer copied it verbatim, but the original source (NBC 15) employed poor English. |
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"So the Labour party is sending its staff to support Kamala in the election. This is wrong in so many ways.
Why interfere with another country's elections? How is this any different from the "Russian interference" that most lefties cry about whenever a democratic decision goes against their choice?
Also, what happens if Trump wins? You end up starting at the back foot with the president of a country that's your biggest ally.
Looks like Labour cares more about other things over the country's future."
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""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this
You missed "of staff". You edited the quote to make it sound more dramatic.
The funny thing here is Musk getting involved saying "this is illegal". Yet he has no issues interfering all over the shop.
I didn't miss any of the quote, I came across it on Twitter, I then googled it and came across it on NBC 15 News, My point being anyone who is a MP or works for them shouldn't be interfering in other countries elections "
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"Is the Reform leader attending any Trump rallies this week ?"
donāt know is he ?
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"Only a few weeks until the USA votes for a new (or old) President on November 5th. So predictions please- who wins and by how much ?
I was going to do a primer at some point as to what to look for
Might as well do it nowā¦.
Basically the election is going to come down to 6 statesā¦ the rust belt 3 (Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin) and the sun belt 3 (Georgia, Nevada and Arizona)
These are the 6 states Harris is playing a little bit of defence
The simplest way to put it would be that Trump would need to win 4 of those 6 states that Biden won last time to win the electionā¦..
And then there is the wild cardā¦. North Carolina
This is the one state last time trump won.. that Harris could this timeā¦ last time Trump beat Biden in NC by 0.8%
If Harris wins North Carolina, which is absolutely doableā¦ then trump would need 5 of the 6 swing states to win
I think Harris will win the rust belt 3ā¦ Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.. that gets her to 270 and she wins the election
I wouldnāt be surprised if she pulls off North Carolina as well "
That's a pretty decent analysis Fabio and could well prove to be correct.
However I think that voter motivation (or apathy) will play a big part this time.
I just have a feeling that Trump's supporters could just be a bit more motivated to get out and vote. It wouldn't need that many democrats to sit on their hands to turn the whole thing around.
Oh and just to echo what others have said on this thread: It really is a sad state of affairs when a country of nearly 400 million people can only offer the choice of these two as president. It really beggars belief. |
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"Only a few weeks until the USA votes for a new (or old) President on November 5th. So predictions please- who wins and by how much ?
I was going to do a primer at some point as to what to look for
Might as well do it nowā¦.
Basically the election is going to come down to 6 statesā¦ the rust belt 3 (Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin) and the sun belt 3 (Georgia, Nevada and Arizona)
These are the 6 states Harris is playing a little bit of defence
The simplest way to put it would be that Trump would need to win 4 of those 6 states that Biden won last time to win the electionā¦..
And then there is the wild cardā¦. North Carolina
This is the one state last time trump won.. that Harris could this timeā¦ last time Trump beat Biden in NC by 0.8%
If Harris wins North Carolina, which is absolutely doableā¦ then trump would need 5 of the 6 swing states to win
I think Harris will win the rust belt 3ā¦ Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.. that gets her to 270 and she wins the election
I wouldnāt be surprised if she pulls off North Carolina as well
That's a pretty decent analysis Fabio and could well prove to be correct.
However I think that voter motivation (or apathy) will play a big part this time.
I just have a feeling that Trump's supporters could just be a bit more motivated to get out and vote. It wouldn't need that many democrats to sit on their hands to turn the whole thing around.
Oh and just to echo what others have said on this thread: It really is a sad state of affairs when a country of nearly 400 million people can only offer the choice of these two as president. It really beggars belief. "
Motivation could work both ways. Trump being Trump might motivate people to get out there and vote for the other candidate, whomever they are. |
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"Only a few weeks until the USA votes for a new (or old) President on November 5th. So predictions please- who wins and by how much ?
I was going to do a primer at some point as to what to look for
Might as well do it nowā¦.
Basically the election is going to come down to 6 statesā¦ the rust belt 3 (Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin) and the sun belt 3 (Georgia, Nevada and Arizona)
These are the 6 states Harris is playing a little bit of defence
The simplest way to put it would be that Trump would need to win 4 of those 6 states that Biden won last time to win the electionā¦..
And then there is the wild cardā¦. North Carolina
This is the one state last time trump won.. that Harris could this timeā¦ last time Trump beat Biden in NC by 0.8%
If Harris wins North Carolina, which is absolutely doableā¦ then trump would need 5 of the 6 swing states to win
I think Harris will win the rust belt 3ā¦ Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.. that gets her to 270 and she wins the election
I wouldnāt be surprised if she pulls off North Carolina as well
That's a pretty decent analysis Fabio and could well prove to be correct.
However I think that voter motivation (or apathy) will play a big part this time.
I just have a feeling that Trump's supporters could just be a bit more motivated to get out and vote. It wouldn't need that many democrats to sit on their hands to turn the whole thing around.
Oh and just to echo what others have said on this thread: It really is a sad state of affairs when a country of nearly 400 million people can only offer the choice of these two as president. It really beggars belief.
Motivation could work both ways. Trump being Trump might motivate people to get out there and vote for the other candidate, whomever they are."
Of course. We will know which ones in 3 weeks. |
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"This is quite common. Dems had people in GB observing McSweeney's strategy in the lead in to this years election and I can recall an interview with Neil Kinnock saying about the cooperation during election times. I don't for one nothing it's election interference more a learning opportunity.
So the Labour party is sending its staff to support Kamala in the election. This is wrong in so many ways.
Why interfere with another country's elections? How is this any different from the "Russian interference" that most lefties cry about whenever a democratic decision goes against their choice?
Also, what happens if Trump wins? You end up starting at the back foot with the president of a country that's your biggest ally.
Looks like Labour cares more about other things over the country's future."
Is Labour sending staff just to observe and learn though? It looks like they are going to actually campaign in favour of Democrats. Isn't that election interference? |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
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""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this
You missed "of staff". You edited the quote to make it sound more dramatic.
The funny thing here is Musk getting involved saying "this is illegal". Yet he has no issues interfering all over the shop.
I didn't miss any of the quote, I came across it on Twitter, I then googled it and came across it on NBC 15 News, My point being anyone who is a MP or works for them shouldn't be interfering in other countries elections
I second that "
Would this also apply to the mp for clacton speaking at trump campaign eventsā¦.
Just asking āfor a friend ā
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""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this
You missed "of staff". You edited the quote to make it sound more dramatic.
The funny thing here is Musk getting involved saying "this is illegal". Yet he has no issues interfering all over the shop.
I didn't miss any of the quote, I came across it on Twitter, I then googled it and came across it on NBC 15 News, My point being anyone who is a MP or works for them shouldn't be interfering in other countries elections
I second that
Would this also apply to the mp for clacton speaking at trump campaign eventsā¦.
Just asking āfor a friend āyes definitely
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yes definitely did you think Iād say no like _abio ? Just asking for me lol |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Springfield |
""The left-leaning British Labour Party is sending nearly 100 members to U.S. battleground states to campaign for Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the presidential election"
If true, I didn't think that sort of thing was allowed, Now imagine the outrage if those pesky Russians done this
You missed "of staff". You edited the quote to make it sound more dramatic.
The funny thing here is Musk getting involved saying "this is illegal". Yet he has no issues interfering all over the shop.
I didn't miss any of the quote, I came across it on Twitter, I then googled it and came across it on NBC 15 News, My point being anyone who is a MP or works for them shouldn't be interfering in other countries elections
I second that
Would this also apply to the mp for clacton speaking at trump campaign eventsā¦.
Just asking āfor a friend ā
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Has Farage appeared at those rallies since becoming an MP ? |
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Ā AFAIK He only went to visit Donald Trump after he had been shot. |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Springfield |
"AFAIK He only went to visit Donald Trump after he had been shot."
That's what I thought. He did speak in 2020 when he was no longer an MEP. |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
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"AFAIK He only went to visit Donald Trump after he had been shot."
Nopeā¦ definitely in his first few weeks of him being the mp for clacton he definitely missed a few āconstituency surgeries ā for a few trips to the statesā¦
He even went out to the republican national convention instead of few votes in parliament |
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"AFAIK He only went to visit Donald Trump after he had been shot.
Nopeā¦ definitely in his first few weeks of him being the mp for clacton he definitely missed a few āconstituency surgeries ā for a few trips to the statesā¦
He even went out to the republican national convention instead of few votes in parliament "
Your claim was Farage had spoken at events.
Not that he attended. |
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Ā Liz Truss spoke at Republican events prior to being kicked out by her constituents. |
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"Liz Truss spoke at Republican events prior to being kicked out by her constituents."
Did she? |
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"Liz Truss spoke at Republican events prior to being kicked out by her constituents.
Did she?"
Yes, Sunak was asked in Parliament if she should have the whip removed. |
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"Liz Truss spoke at Republican events prior to being kicked out by her constituents.
Did she?
Yes, Sunak was asked in Parliament if she should have the whip removed."
Which events were those? |
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"Liz Truss spoke at Republican events prior to being kicked out by her constituents.
Did she?
Yes, Sunak was asked in Parliament if she should have the whip removed.
Which events were those?"
CPAC were she gave a speech saying the US needed to re-elect Trump and that Biden had been disaster for America. She also went on a rant about dark forces bringing her down here.
Some might say she used word salad |
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"Liz Truss spoke at Republican events prior to being kicked out by her constituents.
Did she?
Yes, Sunak was asked in Parliament if she should have the whip removed.
Which events were those?
CPAC were she gave a speech saying the US needed to re-elect Trump and that Biden had been disaster for America. She also went on a rant about dark forces bringing her down here.
Some might say she used word salad "
CPAC is organised by a union, not the Republican Party.
I'm sure there's others though, seeing as you said there were multiple. |
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"Liz Truss spoke at Republican events prior to being kicked out by her constituents.
Did she?
Yes, Sunak was asked in Parliament if she should have the whip removed.
Which events were those?
CPAC were she gave a speech saying the US needed to re-elect Trump and that Biden had been disaster for America. She also went on a rant about dark forces bringing her down here.
Some might say she used word salad
CPAC is organised by a union, not the Republican Party.
I'm sure there's others though, seeing as you said there were multiple. "
She last appeared at the republican convention admittedly after she lost her seat so not as an MP, a bit like the Labour staff not being MPs |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
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"Liz Truss spoke at Republican events prior to being kicked out by her constituents.
Did she?
Yes, Sunak was asked in Parliament if she should have the whip removed.
Which events were those?
CPAC were she gave a speech saying the US needed to re-elect Trump and that Biden had been disaster for America. She also went on a rant about dark forces bringing her down here.
Some might say she used word salad
CPAC is organised by a union, not the Republican Party.
I'm sure there's others though, seeing as you said there were multiple. "
Thatās being disingenuousā¦ CPAC is basically the republican āsuperbowlā ā¦ because the Republican national convention only happens every 4 years to in effect chose a presidential candidate, CPAC is basically akin and acts like the Conservative Party conference year on year
Oooh .. farage spoke at CPAC as well!!! |
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"Liz Truss spoke at Republican events prior to being kicked out by her constituents.
Did she?
Yes, Sunak was asked in Parliament if she should have the whip removed.
Which events were those?
CPAC were she gave a speech saying the US needed to re-elect Trump and that Biden had been disaster for America. She also went on a rant about dark forces bringing her down here.
Some might say she used word salad
CPAC is organised by a union, not the Republican Party.
I'm sure there's others though, seeing as you said there were multiple.
She last appeared at the republican convention admittedly after she lost her seat so not as an MP, a bit like the Labour staff not being MPs"
I've never said Labour staff are MPs. |
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"Liz Truss spoke at Republican events prior to being kicked out by her constituents.
Did she?
Yes, Sunak was asked in Parliament if she should have the whip removed.
Which events were those?
CPAC were she gave a speech saying the US needed to re-elect Trump and that Biden had been disaster for America. She also went on a rant about dark forces bringing her down here.
Some might say she used word salad
CPAC is organised by a union, not the Republican Party.
I'm sure there's others though, seeing as you said there were multiple.
Thatās being disingenuousā¦ CPAC is basically the republican āsuperbowlā ā¦ because the Republican national convention only happens every 4 years to in effect chose a presidential candidate, CPAC is basically akin and acts like the Conservative Party conference year on year
Oooh .. farage spoke at CPAC as well!!! "
Disingenuous or truthful??
Farage wasn't an MP anyway so not sure why that matters. |
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"Liz Truss spoke at Republican events prior to being kicked out by her constituents.
Did she?
Yes, Sunak was asked in Parliament if she should have the whip removed.
Which events were those?
CPAC were she gave a speech saying the US needed to re-elect Trump and that Biden had been disaster for America. She also went on a rant about dark forces bringing her down here.
Some might say she used word salad
CPAC is organised by a union, not the Republican Party.
I'm sure there's others though, seeing as you said there were multiple.
Thatās being disingenuousā¦ CPAC is basically the republican āsuperbowlā ā¦ because the Republican national convention only happens every 4 years to in effect chose a presidential candidate, CPAC is basically akin and acts like the Conservative Party conference year on year
Oooh .. farage spoke at CPAC as well!!!
Disingenuous or truthful??
Farage wasn't an MP anyway so not sure why that matters. "
So anyone from any party can get involved in American politics as long as they are not MPs.
So labour staff being there is a non story.
Glad thatās sorted. |
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"Liz Truss spoke at Republican events prior to being kicked out by her constituents.
Did she?
Yes, Sunak was asked in Parliament if she should have the whip removed.
Which events were those?
CPAC were she gave a speech saying the US needed to re-elect Trump and that Biden had been disaster for America. She also went on a rant about dark forces bringing her down here.
Some might say she used word salad
CPAC is organised by a union, not the Republican Party.
I'm sure there's others though, seeing as you said there were multiple.
Thatās being disingenuousā¦ CPAC is basically the republican āsuperbowlā ā¦ because the Republican national convention only happens every 4 years to in effect chose a presidential candidate, CPAC is basically akin and acts like the Conservative Party conference year on year
Oooh .. farage spoke at CPAC as well!!!
Disingenuous or truthful??
Farage wasn't an MP anyway so not sure why that matters.
So anyone from any party can get involved in American politics as long as they are not MPs.
So labour staff being there is a non story.
Glad thatās sorted."
That's not what I said is it?
Labour staff are paid employees of our governing party. They should not be siding with another party from any country in the run up to an election. That goes for any paid employees of any party.
Besides, it looks like that plan has been cancelled. Another thing the Labour party clearly didn't think through. |
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Ā Harris will win by a LANDSLIDE! |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Springfield |
"Harris will win by a LANDSLIDE!"
Bold prediction Jenny ! |
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By *abluesbabyManĀ 5 weeks ago
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"Harris will win by a LANDSLIDE!"
Its an interesting prediction!
But the polls - that they spend millions of dollars and countless hours collating - very much beg to differ. Its basically neck and neck as I type.
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Ā You do wonder at the mentality of anyone thinking Trump is the right person. He wouldn't qualify as a traffic warden in the UK with his convictions and bankruptcies . He is a sad and bitter old man who has no redeeming factors apparently |
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Ā Ā Ā As someone who watches american politics from afar (a lot more interesting than our lot) i cant quite understand how its even close. Trump is a walking advert for dementia. Hes flailing away at rallies by rambling on about whatever pops into his head(dems looking to ban windows?)cows,sharks and anything else that makes no sense. Had a rally in detriot where he proceeded to disparage every part of the place! Hes lost the plot, He has no policies that make any sense,goes on about how he will cut inflation,gas prices,grocery prices (newsflash! He cant change the prices) and anything else that he thinks will rally his rabid base. He's now cancelled nearly every interview that he had scheduled for the next 18 days.He has a 30-35% guaranteed voter turnout and maybe pushing 40% but the GOP have pissed off far too many women with Roe etc to make up the shortfall.
Now Harris is no superstar in the US political system but in a 2 horse race where one of the horses is lame then then i can see only 1 winner |
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Ā God help America if they vote her in.
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"God help America if they vote her in.
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Why? |
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By *oufouCoupleĀ 5 weeks ago
Somerset |
"God help America if they vote her in.
Why?"
Itās amazing that so few seem to understand the objectives of the founding fathers, isnāt it? America is a nation of immigrants. |
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"God help America if they vote her in.
Why?
Itās amazing that so few seem to understand the objectives of the founding fathers, isnāt it? America is a nation of immigrants. "
I don't particularly like Harris's politics. But I would vote for her over Trump. She's a functioning human, can speak, knows what science is, isn't a sexual assault enthusiast. |
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By *oufouCoupleĀ 5 weeks ago
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"I don't particularly like Harris's politics. But I would vote for her over Trump. She's a functioning human, can speak, knows what science is, isn't a sexual assault enthusiast. "
Same. Heās a stable idiot. |
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"God help America if they vote her in.
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Some would say, God help the world if they vote him in |
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"God help America if they vote her in.
Why?
Itās amazing that so few seem to understand the objectives of the founding fathers, isnāt it? America is a nation of immigrants. "
The power of media bubbles being more persuasive than objective thinking |
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By *oufouCoupleĀ 5 weeks ago
Somerset |
"God help America if they vote her in.
Why?
Itās amazing that so few seem to understand the objectives of the founding fathers, isnāt it? America is a nation of immigrants.
The power of media bubbles being more persuasive than objective thinking"
And the cult of celebrityā¦ I suspect a significant number of voters think theyāre getting the star of The Apprentice. Add that to the diehard Republicans who would always vote against the Democratsā¦ and here we are. |
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"God help America if they vote her in.
Why?
Itās amazing that so few seem to understand the objectives of the founding fathers, isnāt it? America is a nation of immigrants.
The power of media bubbles being more persuasive than objective thinking
And the cult of celebrityā¦ I suspect a significant number of voters think theyāre getting the star of The Apprentice. Add that to the diehard Republicans who would always vote against the Democratsā¦ and here we are."
It's quite a scary thought that someone so clearly as mentally ill as Trump is could have control of the red button.
American media has done the whole world a disservice with not showing the real Trump and selling us this neck n neck horse race for ratings and clicks only |
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By *oufouCoupleĀ 5 weeks ago
Somerset |
"God help America if they vote her in.
Why?
Itās amazing that so few seem to understand the objectives of the founding fathers, isnāt it? America is a nation of immigrants.
The power of media bubbles being more persuasive than objective thinking
And the cult of celebrityā¦ I suspect a significant number of voters think theyāre getting the star of The Apprentice. Add that to the diehard Republicans who would always vote against the Democratsā¦ and here we are.
It's quite a scary thought that someone so clearly as mentally ill as Trump is could have control of the red button.
American media has done the whole world a disservice with not showing the real Trump and selling us this neck n neck horse race for ratings and clicks only"
The list of professionals who have worked with him and declared him unfit for office (including his own Vice President ffs) is absolutely astounding, but no more so than his grassroots supporters. |
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"God help America if they vote her in.
Why?
Itās amazing that so few seem to understand the objectives of the founding fathers, isnāt it? America is a nation of immigrants.
I don't particularly like Harris's politics. But I would vote for her over Trump. She's a functioning human, can speak, knows what science is, isn't a sexual assault enthusiast. "
I love this she can speak lmao you clearly havenāt seen her recent interviews |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"As someone who watches american politics from afar (a lot more interesting than our lot) i cant quite understand how its even close. Trump is a walking advert for dementia. Hes flailing away at rallies by rambling on about whatever pops into his head(dems looking to ban windows?)cows,sharks and anything else that makes no sense. Had a rally in detriot where he proceeded to disparage every part of the place! Hes lost the plot, He has no policies that make any sense,goes on about how he will cut inflation,gas prices,grocery prices (newsflash! He cant change the prices) and anything else that he thinks will rally his rabid base. He's now cancelled nearly every interview that he had scheduled for the next 18 days.He has a 30-35% guaranteed voter turnout and maybe pushing 40% but the GOP have pissed off far too many women with Roe etc to make up the shortfall.
Alsoā¦ the way republicans have screwed it up with women in general! Vance was never the best pick for vp
I do find it interesting that trump leads Harris in male voters by 7, but Harris leads Trump in womenās voters by 16
And bearing in mind that women are more likely to vote than menā¦ā¦..I still think it will be close but at the moment, the momentum for me is with Harrisā¦ this Joe rogan podcast interview could be epic
Now Harris is no superstar in the US political system but in a 2 horse race where one of the horses is lame then then i can see only 1 winner "
I think you picked up on Two of the most fascinating things for meā¦ after the republicans saying that Kamala was being protected from the press, it actually Harrisās doing all the media everywhere, and Trump who has retreated to just Fox News..
After his disasters on Bloomberg and Univision this week I honestly doubt he will not do anything but fox news fluff interviews for the rest of this campaign (and even the way Fox News has been called out by the rest of the media for being trumps shield has been glorious!)
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"As someone who watches american politics from afar (a lot more interesting than our lot) i cant quite understand how its even close. Trump is a walking advert for dementia. Hes flailing away at rallies by rambling on about whatever pops into his head(dems looking to ban windows?)cows,sharks and anything else that makes no sense. Had a rally in detriot where he proceeded to disparage every part of the place! Hes lost the plot, He has no policies that make any sense,goes on about how he will cut inflation,gas prices,grocery prices (newsflash! He cant change the prices) and anything else that he thinks will rally his rabid base. He's now cancelled nearly every interview that he had scheduled for the next 18 days.He has a 30-35% guaranteed voter turnout and maybe pushing 40% but the GOP have pissed off far too many women with Roe etc to make up the shortfall.
Alsoā¦ the way republicans have screwed it up with women in general! Vance was never the best pick for vp
I do find it interesting that trump leads Harris in male voters by 7, but Harris leads Trump in womenās voters by 16
And bearing in mind that women are more likely to vote than menā¦ā¦..I still think it will be close but at the moment, the momentum for me is with Harrisā¦ this Joe rogan podcast interview could be epic
Now Harris is no superstar in the US political system but in a 2 horse race where one of the horses is lame then then i can see only 1 winner
I think you picked up on Two of the most fascinating things for meā¦ after the republicans saying that Kamala was being protected from the press, it actually Harrisās doing all the media everywhere, and Trump who has retreated to just Fox News..
After his disasters on Bloomberg and Univision this week I honestly doubt he will not do anything but fox news fluff interviews for the rest of this campaign (and even the way Fox News has been called out by the rest of the media for being trumps shield has been glorious!)
The other"
you must of wached a diffrent Bloomberg interview than me then so you think Harris is fantastic lately on interviews?she is shocking have you seen trump on the catholic convention one I canāt think of the name of it the one Harris didnāt turn up for ? |
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"God help America if they vote her in.
Why?
Itās amazing that so few seem to understand the objectives of the founding fathers, isnāt it? America is a nation of immigrants.
I don't particularly like Harris's politics. But I would vote for her over Trump. She's a functioning human, can speak, knows what science is, isn't a sexual assault enthusiast. I love this she can speak lmao you clearly havenāt seen her recent interviews "
Yes you brought this up before and tried to use it to bash me. Maybe this time you can be clearer and tell us which interview you're talking about? |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
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They are both weak candidates. This thread is for predictions on who will win, regardless of personal preference. |
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"They are both weak candidates. This thread is for predictions on who will win, regardless of personal preference. "
Polls still sat Kamala to win. But as we know from experience, Republicans always do better on the day.
I wouldn't be surprised either way. |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 5 weeks ago
Springfield |
"They are both weak candidates. This thread is for predictions on who will win, regardless of personal preference.
Polls still sat Kamala to win. But as we know from experience, Republicans always do better on the day.
I wouldn't be surprised either way. "
Yes, so many small variables could be decisive. |
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"God help America if they vote her in.
Why?
Itās amazing that so few seem to understand the objectives of the founding fathers, isnāt it? America is a nation of immigrants.
I don't particularly like Harris's politics. But I would vote for her over Trump. She's a functioning human, can speak, knows what science is, isn't a sexual assault enthusiast. I love this she can speak lmao you clearly havenāt seen her recent interviews
Yes you brought this up before and tried to use it to bash me. Maybe this time you can be clearer and tell us which interview you're talking about?"
i canāt remember which ones go on YouTube itās full of them mate |
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"God help America if they vote her in.
Why?
Itās amazing that so few seem to understand the objectives of the founding fathers, isnāt it? America is a nation of immigrants.
I don't particularly like Harris's politics. But I would vote for her over Trump. She's a functioning human, can speak, knows what science is, isn't a sexual assault enthusiast. I love this she can speak lmao you clearly havenāt seen her recent interviews
Yes you brought this up before and tried to use it to bash me. Maybe this time you can be clearer and tell us which interview you're talking about?i canāt remember which ones go on YouTube itās full of them mate "
So you don't know, and yet you tried to ridicule me on another thread for not knowing which interview you're talking about.
Amazing.
Anyway, I've watched several full interviews with her. She speaks as clearly as most politicians.
If you're trying to suggest that Trump can in some way communicate more clearly and concisely, then I would suggest you watch some of his full interviews. |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"As someone who watches american politics from afar (a lot more interesting than our lot) i cant quite understand how its even close. Trump is a walking advert for dementia. Hes flailing away at rallies by rambling on about whatever pops into his head(dems looking to ban windows?)cows,sharks and anything else that makes no sense. Had a rally in detriot where he proceeded to disparage every part of the place! Hes lost the plot, He has no policies that make any sense,goes on about how he will cut inflation,gas prices,grocery prices (newsflash! He cant change the prices) and anything else that he thinks will rally his rabid base. He's now cancelled nearly every interview that he had scheduled for the next 18 days.He has a 30-35% guaranteed voter turnout and maybe pushing 40% but the GOP have pissed off far too many women with Roe etc to make up the shortfall.
Alsoā¦ the way republicans have screwed it up with women in general! Vance was never the best pick for vp
I do find it interesting that trump leads Harris in male voters by 7, but Harris leads Trump in womenās voters by 16
And bearing in mind that women are more likely to vote than menā¦ā¦..I still think it will be close but at the moment, the momentum for me is with Harrisā¦ this Joe rogan podcast interview could be epic
Now Harris is no superstar in the US political system but in a 2 horse race where one of the horses is lame then then i can see only 1 winner
I think you picked up on Two of the most fascinating things for meā¦ after the republicans saying that Kamala was being protected from the press, it actually Harrisās doing all the media everywhere, and Trump who has retreated to just Fox News..
After his disasters on Bloomberg and Univision this week I honestly doubt he will not do anything but fox news fluff interviews for the rest of this campaign (and even the way Fox News has been called out by the rest of the media for being trumps shield has been glorious!)
The otheryou must of wached a diffrent Bloomberg interview than me then so you think Harris is fantastic lately on interviews?she is shocking have you seen trump on the catholic convention one I canāt think of the name of it the one Harris didnāt turn up for ?"
She actually sent in a video for the Al smith dinner, trump canāt really talk because he didnāt show up for the Al smith dinner in 2020, but Biden did!
And then Trump goes on fox and friends yesterday and says some people at Fox News helped him write his jokes! That not a great look
The bloke on the Bloomberg interview had to basically teach him basic economics on how his tariffs proposal was going to work in the real world.. and when he didnāt like it he resorted to attacking the interviewer
Harris on Fox Newsā¦ it was combativeā¦ bret baier went after her from the very start, he landed some blows, I am so glad Harris called out fox and baier trying to play a clip out of context to defend Trump .. by the way the fox all women town hall.. fox āforgotā to mention it was full of republicans officials and state party members..
Anywayā¦ going back to Harris and Fox News.. Iād score that interview even, he got her to backpedal a bit, she got the click bait answers she needed, Fox News getting caught in real time not being on the level was a bonus!
Trump on the Univision town hall was a five alarm dumpster fire! If you look up in the thread earlier youāll notice I asked about what would happen in certain industries without immigrants working in themā¦ and god bless the audience for asking him
His answers were all over the placeā¦ that answer about January 6th may be the.single worst answer anyone has given to a question this entire election cycle! The answer about keeping guns out of school was shocking, and he doubled down on the immigrants eating pets thing by also alluding they may be eating other things as well
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Ā I do start to wonder if avid Trump supporters have a span of attention that is over stretched by TikTok posts or YouTube shorts.
The Trump campaign and Fox News try very hard to take sound bites from Trump's speeches that make him look good. However, if you look at the whole speech, it appears, when he stops using the teleprompter, he loses his train of thought within moments.
Possibly the worst recent display of this was the Bloomberg interview. Trump was asked legitimate questions about his policies, because that is what the audience wanted to hear, he had no idea. He thinks Tariffs are the greatest thing for the people of the USA.
As a point to consider, imagine you needed open heart surgery and you asked your surgeon what he is going to do. Surely, if he spoke like Trump, you would be scared shitless. |
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Ā Not watched many of kamalas interviews, the ones i have seen always seem to be orange man bad threat to democracyand she wouldnt change anything biden has done, not heard what shes actually going to do to make peoples life better, as for trump the few ive seen he dont seem much different to 2016 and 2020,mad as a box of frogs but highly entertaining |
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Ā Vivek would've absolutely wiped the floor with Harris or Biden as it was back then.
Unfortunately Republican voters were far too stupid to see that. |
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"Not watched many of kamalas interviews, the ones i have seen always seem to be orange man bad threat to democracyand she wouldnt change anything biden has done, not heard what shes actually going to do to make peoples life better, as for trump the few ive seen he dont seem much different to 2016 and 2020,mad as a box of frogs but highly entertaining"
Watch the whole of Bret Baier interview, start to finish. She was interrogated by a well prepared and experienced hostile host who tried to talk over her when she answered his "gotcha" questions. She did as good as any politician.
Trump's reply was a room full of MAGA disciples and softball questions. |
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By *abioManĀ 5 weeks ago
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"Not watched many of kamalas interviews, the ones i have seen always seem to be orange man bad threat to democracyand she wouldnt change anything biden has done, not heard what shes actually going to do to make peoples life better, as for trump the few ive seen he dont seem much different to 2016 and 2020,mad as a box of frogs but highly entertaining
Watch the whole of Bret Baier interview, start to finish. She was interrogated by a well prepared and experienced hostile host who tried to talk over her when she answered his "gotcha" questions. She did as good as any politician.
Trump's reply was a room full of MAGA disciples and softball questions. "
Since you are up for a laugh.. go and watch the trump town hall on Univision |
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"Vivek would've absolutely wiped the floor with Harris or Biden as it was back then.
Unfortunately Republican voters were far too stupid to see that. "
Vivek Ramaswamy is far more switched on and potentially proper competition for Harris.
Sadly for the Republicans, he has no political experience and wound up stooping to floor level stupidity and name calling to try and relate to Trump's base. At least he realised he needed to do that to have any chance of success. He should stand for the House of Reps and get some experience. |
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"As someone who watches american politics from afar (a lot more interesting than our lot) i cant quite understand how its even close. Trump is a walking advert for dementia. Hes flailing away at rallies by rambling on about whatever pops into his head(dems looking to ban windows?)cows,sharks and anything else that makes no sense. Had a rally in detriot where he proceeded to disparage every part of the place! Hes lost the plot, He has no policies that make any sense,goes on about how he will cut inflation,gas prices,grocery prices (newsflash! He cant change the prices) and anything else that he thinks will rally his rabid base. He's now cancelled nearly every interview that he had scheduled for the next 18 days.He has a 30-35% guaranteed voter turnout and maybe pushing 40% but the GOP have pissed off far too many women with Roe etc to make up the shortfall.
Alsoā¦ the way republicans have screwed it up with women in general! Vance was never the best pick for vp
I do find it interesting that trump leads Harris in male voters by 7, but Harris leads Trump in womenās voters by 16
And bearing in mind that women are more likely to vote than menā¦ā¦..I still think it will be close but at the moment, the momentum for me is with Harrisā¦ this Joe rogan podcast interview could be epic
Now Harris is no superstar in the US political system but in a 2 horse race where one of the horses is lame then then i can see only 1 winner
I think you picked up on Two of the most fascinating things for meā¦ after the republicans saying that Kamala was being protected from the press, it actually Harrisās doing all the media everywhere, and Trump who has retreated to just Fox News..
After his disasters on Bloomberg and Univision this week I honestly doubt he will not do anything but fox news fluff interviews for the rest of this campaign (and even the way Fox News has been called out by the rest of the media for being trumps shield has been glorious!)
The otheryou must of wached a diffrent Bloomberg interview than me then so you think Harris is fantastic lately on interviews?she is shocking have you seen trump on the catholic convention one I canāt think of the name of it the one Harris didnāt turn up for ?
She actually sent in a video for the Al smith dinner, trump canāt really talk because he didnāt show up for the Al smith dinner in 2020, but Biden did!
And then Trump goes on fox and friends yesterday and says some people at Fox News helped him write his jokes! That not a great look
The bloke on the Bloomberg interview had to basically teach him basic economics on how his tariffs proposal was going to work in the real world.. and when he didnāt like it he resorted to attacking the interviewer
Harris on Fox Newsā¦ it was combativeā¦ bret baier went after her from the very start, he landed some blows, I am so glad Harris called out fox and baier trying to play a clip out of context to defend Trump .. by the way the fox all women town hall.. fox āforgotā to mention it was full of republicans officials and state party members..
Anywayā¦ going back to Harris and Fox News.. Iād score that interview even, he got her to backpedal a bit, she got the click bait answers she needed, Fox News getting caught in real time not being on the level was a bonus!
Trump on the Univision town hall was a five alarm dumpster fire! If you look up in the thread earlier youāll notice I asked about what would happen in certain industries without immigrants working in themā¦ and god bless the audience for asking him
His answers were all over the placeā¦ that answer about January 6th may be the.single worst answer anyone has given to a question this entire election cycle! The answer about keeping guns out of school was shocking, and he doubled down on the immigrants eating pets thing by also alluding they may be eating other things as well
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you score that one even Fabio man howay where you doing the scorecards ringside in Saudi last week aswell then lol |
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"Not watched many of kamalas interviews, the ones i have seen always seem to be orange man bad threat to democracyand she wouldnt change anything biden has done, not heard what shes actually going to do to make peoples life better, as for trump the few ive seen he dont seem much different to 2016 and 2020,mad as a box of frogs but highly entertaining
Watch the whole of Bret Baier interview, start to finish. She was interrogated by a well prepared and experienced hostile host who tried to talk over her when she answered his "gotcha" questions. She did as good as any politician.
Trump's reply was a room full of MAGA disciples and softball questions.
Since you are up for a laugh.. go and watch the trump town hall on Univision "
I have. I do find myself thinking I would not let this guy run a lemonade stand, let alone the USA. Then a cold shriver ran down my spine at the thought there may be enough who do not see reality and vote him in. |
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"God help America if they vote her in.
Why?"
Good one |
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"Given 2016 and the predictions that Trump wonāt win with the accompanying scoffing I think anything can happen.
Going to be a great election night. Will be watching with interest.
Let me save you a good nights sleepā¦
This election will not be decided on election night!
Just because of the various different ways the republicans have tried to suppress the voting and counting process.. I doubt that Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin will be called on the night!
I have a bet with a friend it wonāt be called till Friday "
And then Trump will refuse to accept he did not win in California, New York, etc etc.. |
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"God help America if they vote her in.
Why?
Itās amazing that so few seem to understand the objectives of the founding fathers, isnāt it? America is a nation of immigrants.
I don't particularly like Harris's politics. But I would vote for her over Trump. She's a functioning human, can speak, knows what science is, isn't a sexual assault enthusiast. I love this she can speak lmao you clearly havenāt seen her recent interviews
Yes you brought this up before and tried to use it to bash me. Maybe this time you can be clearer and tell us which interview you're talking about?i canāt remember which ones go on YouTube itās full of them mate
So you don't know, and yet you tried to ridicule me on another thread for not knowing which interview you're talking about.
Amazing.
Anyway, I've watched several full interviews with her. She speaks as clearly as most politicians.
If you're trying to suggest that Trump can in some way communicate more clearly and concisely, then I would suggest you watch some of his full interviews. "
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You really can't stand people disagreeing with you can you? |
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"Not watched many of kamalas interviews, the ones i have seen always seem to be orange man bad threat to democracyand she wouldnt change anything biden has done, not heard what shes actually going to do to make peoples life better, as for trump the few ive seen he dont seem much different to 2016 and 2020,mad as a box of frogs but highly entertaining
Watch the whole of Bret Baier interview, start to finish. She was interrogated by a well prepared and experienced hostile host who tried to talk over her when she answered his "gotcha" questions. She did as good as any politician.
Trump's reply was a room full of MAGA disciples and softball questions.
Since you are up for a laugh.. go and watch the trump town hall on Univision "
he said he didnāt write the jokes they all use speech writers and have ppl write there jokes every politician does and you know that harris as them for her sound bites she repeats constantly itās normal practice so I donāt really get ya point there _abio |
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Ā I can understand the love of Trump from Americans, heās been their president in the past and they want him back in power again. For the life of me I canāt understand why anyone in this country would be so animated about him. |
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Ā Who wins? TV networks and social media firms. It's obscene what both parties are pumping into advertising! |
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"I can understand the love of Trump from Americans, heās been their president in the past and they want him back in power again. For the life of me I canāt understand why anyone in this country would be so animated about him."
maybe there terrified of Harris
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"I can understand the love of Trump from Americans, heās been their president in the past and they want him back in power again. For the life of me I canāt understand why anyone in this country would be so animated about him. maybe there terrified of Harris "
Why is she going do away with winter fuel allowance for everyone |
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"I can understand the love of Trump from Americans, heās been their president in the past and they want him back in power again. For the life of me I canāt understand why anyone in this country would be so animated about him. maybe there terrified of Harris
Why is she going do away with winter fuel allowance for everyone "
lol if she did she would claim it was a holistic approach she loves that sound bite |
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"God help America if they vote her in.
Why?
Itās amazing that so few seem to understand the objectives of the founding fathers, isnāt it? America is a nation of immigrants.
I don't particularly like Harris's politics. But I would vote for her over Trump. She's a functioning human, can speak, knows what science is, isn't a sexual assault enthusiast. I love this she can speak lmao you clearly havenāt seen her recent interviews
Yes you brought this up before and tried to use it to bash me. Maybe this time you can be clearer and tell us which interview you're talking about?i canāt remember which ones go on YouTube itās full of them mate
So you don't know, and yet you tried to ridicule me on another thread for not knowing which interview you're talking about.
Amazing.
Anyway, I've watched several full interviews with her. She speaks as clearly as most politicians.
If you're trying to suggest that Trump can in some way communicate more clearly and concisely, then I would suggest you watch some of his full interviews. .
You really can't stand people disagreeing with you can you? "
The person I was replying to is disagreeing with reality. Not sure why you're trying to point a finger at me. |
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"God help America if they vote her in.
Why?
Good one"
It's okay if you don't know why. Just thought there might be something to back up your statement. |
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"Who wins? TV networks and social media firms. It's obscene what both parties are pumping into advertising!"
Why really wins, the arms industry, the fossil fuels industry, big pharma etc. |
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"Not watched many of kamalas interviews, the ones i have seen always seem to be orange man bad threat to democracyand she wouldnt change anything biden has done, not heard what shes actually going to do to make peoples life better, as for trump the few ive seen he dont seem much different to 2016 and 2020,mad as a box of frogs but highly entertaining
Watch the whole of Bret Baier interview, start to finish. She was interrogated by a well prepared and experienced hostile host who tried to talk over her when she answered his "gotcha" questions. She did as good as any politician.
Trump's reply was a room full of MAGA disciples and softball questions.
Since you are up for a laugh.. go and watch the trump town hall on Univision "
like i said ive breifly seen a few of both of them and it looks like a choice of shit or shitter makes our own politicians look almost sensible |
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"I can understand the love of Trump from Americans, heās been their president in the past and they want him back in power again. For the life of me I canāt understand why anyone in this country would be so animated about him."
The President of the USA has a huge impact on Britain and Europe. If Trump gets back into power he will withdraw support for Ukraine and push Putin's Armies up to the EU borders.
In the past he has been anti NATO so we may well find ourselves on our own. He has an America first mantra which means putting tariffs on our exports making them more expensive in the USA. The USA is a big market for us to lose. So it does affect us a lot. |
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"Not watched many of kamalas interviews, the ones i have seen always seem to be orange man bad threat to democracyand she wouldnt change anything biden has done, not heard what shes actually going to do to make peoples life better, as for trump the few ive seen he dont seem much different to 2016 and 2020,mad as a box of frogs but highly entertaining
Watch the whole of Bret Baier interview, start to finish. She was interrogated by a well prepared and experienced hostile host who tried to talk over her when she answered his "gotcha" questions. She did as good as any politician.
Trump's reply was a room full of MAGA disciples and softball questions.
Since you are up for a laugh.. go and watch the trump town hall on Univision like i said ive breifly seen a few of both of them and it looks like a choice of shit or shitter makes our own politicians look almost sensible"
You must have watched Fox news shorts to form that opinion. Even Bret Baier admitted Harris did well in the interview. He noted that a Trump clip that he wanted played was switched for another soft ball clip by the Fox producer without his knowledge. |
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"Not watched many of kamalas interviews, the ones i have seen always seem to be orange man bad threat to democracyand she wouldnt change anything biden has done, not heard what shes actually going to do to make peoples life better, as for trump the few ive seen he dont seem much different to 2016 and 2020,mad as a box of frogs but highly entertaining
Watch the whole of Bret Baier interview, start to finish. She was interrogated by a well prepared and experienced hostile host who tried to talk over her when she answered his "gotcha" questions. She did as good as any politician.
Trump's reply was a room full of MAGA disciples and softball questions.
Since you are up for a laugh.. go and watch the trump town hall on Univision like i said ive breifly seen a few of both of them and it looks like a choice of shit or shitter makes our own politicians look almost sensible
You must have watched Fox news shorts to form that opinion. Even Bret Baier admitted Harris did well in the interview. He noted that a Trump clip that he wanted played was switched for another soft ball clip by the Fox producer without his knowledge. "
dunno where there from, like i said ive seen a few bits from harris and trump and its a choice between shit and shitter, i dont tend to sit there watching politicians in our own country so im not gona sit there and watch two yee haws waffle on for hours about there own fucked up peice of dirt |
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"Who wins? TV networks and social media firms. It's obscene what both parties are pumping into advertising!
Why really wins, the arms industry, the fossil fuels industry, big pharma etc. "
See now you're talking sense |
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By *oufouCoupleĀ 4 weeks ago
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"I can understand the love of Trump from Americans, heās been their president in the past and they want him back in power again. For the life of me I canāt understand why anyone in this country would be so animated about him."
From the ACLU website:
āDonald Trumpās administration initiated a sustained, years-long effort to erase protections for LGBTQ people. This included an effort to ādefine ātransgenderā out of existence,ā erode protections for transgender students and workers, and weaken access to gender-affirming health care that most transgender people already struggled to access.ā
But this doesnāt concern youā¦ |
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By *abioManĀ 4 weeks ago
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"Not watched many of kamalas interviews, the ones i have seen always seem to be orange man bad threat to democracyand she wouldnt change anything biden has done, not heard what shes actually going to do to make peoples life better, as for trump the few ive seen he dont seem much different to 2016 and 2020,mad as a box of frogs but highly entertaining
Watch the whole of Bret Baier interview, start to finish. She was interrogated by a well prepared and experienced hostile host who tried to talk over her when she answered his "gotcha" questions. She did as good as any politician.
Trump's reply was a room full of MAGA disciples and softball questions.
Since you are up for a laugh.. go and watch the trump town hall on Univision like i said ive breifly seen a few of both of them and it looks like a choice of shit or shitter makes our own politicians look almost sensible
You must have watched Fox news shorts to form that opinion. Even Bret Baier admitted Harris did well in the interview. He noted that a Trump clip that he wanted played was switched for another soft ball clip by the Fox producer without his knowledge.
dunno where there from, like i said ive seen a few bits from harris and trump and its a choice between shit and shitter, i dont tend to sit there watching politicians in our own country so im not gona sit there and watch two yee haws waffle on for hours about there own fucked up peice of dirt"
Well maybe thatās your issue then _estivalā¦ because the stuff at town halls isnāt āwaffle for hoursāā¦ itās questions on different topics that quite frankly you should be able to answer fairly quicklyā¦
He was asked what he would do about the agriculture industry since most of its labour is done by undocumented immigrantsā¦. He gave a really shit answer
He was asked about January 6th and accepting the resultā¦ he gave a really shit answer
He was asked how he his administration would deal with guns in schoolsā¦ he gave a really shit answer
He was asked why he doubled down on the immigrants eating pets thing when everyone has said itās not trueā¦ he gave a really shit answer
A question on hurricane relief and climate changeā¦ really shit answer
And so onā¦ it was bad!.. really bad! |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 4 weeks ago
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"Harris will win it ."
Thanks Shag, good to see someone actually answer the thread š  |
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"I can understand the love of Trump from Americans, heās been their president in the past and they want him back in power again. For the life of me I canāt understand why anyone in this country would be so animated about him.
From the ACLU website:
āDonald Trumpās administration initiated a sustained, years-long effort to erase protections for LGBTQ people. This included an effort to ādefine ātransgenderā out of existence,ā erode protections for transgender students and workers, and weaken access to gender-affirming health care that most transgender people already struggled to access.ā
But this doesnāt concern youā¦"
Well he has to win over there first and even if he did I don't rate his chances of getting it through Parliament |
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"Harris will win by a LANDSLIDE!
Its an interesting prediction!
But the polls - that they spend millions of dollars and countless hours collating - very much beg to differ. Its basically neck and neck as I type.
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What can I say? When I'm right, I'm right.  |
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Ā I say Harris by a landslide too
The polls and the press are desperately trying to manufacture this neck n neck race and I donāt buy it
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 4 weeks ago
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"I say Harris by a landslide too
The polls and the press are desperately trying to manufacture this neck n neck race and I donāt buy it
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That would be a surprise but they do happen in politics! |
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By *eoBloomsĀ OPĀ Ā Ā ManĀ 4 weeks ago
Springfield |
Just over two weeks to go. šŗš²šŗš²šŗš² |
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