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"How long can the rest of the Labour put up with him before he is replaced . He is obviously out of his depth as a leader. "
He will do all the unpopular stuff and then handover to either Streeting or Burnham before the next GE.
By 2029 he would have been Labour Leader for 10 years, be 67 years old and at the top of an amazingly successful career.
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By *atEvolutionCouple 8 weeks ago
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His own mp's are already asking questions (some are quite upset) about Sir Gear Starmer's handling of WFA. Government Wages. Union Pay. And all his Free Gear.
tic toc tic toc. There will always be the apologists, but they can't stop that clock ticking.
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"How long can the rest of the Labour put up with him before he is replaced . He is obviously out of his depth as a leader. "
Is that your personal opinion based on your own agenda or do you have any actual evidence to back this up?
I mean is he any worse than the Tory dross we have had to deal with for the past decade and beyond? |
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By *irldnCouple 8 weeks ago
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I don’t think Starmer is any worse than Cameron-May-Johnson-Truss-Sunak but he is certainly underwhelming.
Getting the Tories out was needed. They were no longer Conservatives and had become an infighting, pulled to the right, busted flush devoid or credibility or sensible/achievable ideas.
Labour promised change (and yes it gas only vern X weeks) but it feels all wrong and negative and depressing. They are almost certainly front loading the pain and taking advantage of their super majority so they can start with the positive news and giveaways later in the parliament as we head towards the next GE. |
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"How long can the rest of the Labour put up with him before he is replaced . He is obviously out of his depth as a leader.
He will do all the unpopular stuff and then handover to either Streeting or Burnham before the next GE.
By 2029 he would have been Labour Leader for 10 years, be 67 years old and at the top of an amazingly successful career.
Perhaps you are the one out of your depth? Asking for a friend."
Bloody great prediction? Do you know tonight Lotto numbers as well , asking for a friend;) |
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"He will do all the unpopular stuff and then handover to either Streeting or Burnham before the next GE.
By 2029 he would have been Labour Leader for 10 years, be 67 years old and at the top of an amazingly successful career."
Have we found the Anti-Pat? |
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"I don’t think Starmer is any worse than Cameron-May-Johnson-Truss-Sunak but he is certainly underwhelming.
Getting the Tories out was needed. They were no longer Conservatives and had become an infighting, pulled to the right, busted flush devoid or credibility or sensible/achievable ideas.
Labour promised change (and yes it gas only vern X weeks) but it feels all wrong and negative and depressing. They are almost certainly front loading the pain and taking advantage of their super majority so they can start with the positive news and giveaways later in the parliament as we head towards the next GE."
Worse he’s meant to be better. Or that was the promise. When he said “time for change”. Most didn’t realise Keir meant only thing people would have in their pockets was loose change . |
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By *irldnCouple 8 weeks ago
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"He will do all the unpopular stuff and then handover to either Streeting or Burnham before the next GE.
By 2029 he would have been Labour Leader for 10 years, be 67 years old and at the top of an amazingly successful career.
Have we found the Anti-Pat?"
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By *irldnCouple 8 weeks ago
Brighton |
"I don’t think Starmer is any worse than Cameron-May-Johnson-Truss-Sunak but he is certainly underwhelming.
Getting the Tories out was needed. They were no longer Conservatives and had become an infighting, pulled to the right, busted flush devoid or credibility or sensible/achievable ideas.
Labour promised change (and yes it gas only vern X weeks) but it feels all wrong and negative and depressing. They are almost certainly front loading the pain and taking advantage of their super majority so they can start with the positive news and giveaways later in the parliament as we head towards the next GE.
Worse he’s meant to be better. Or that was the promise. When he said “time for change”. Most didn’t realise Keir meant only thing people would have in their pockets was loose change . "
I would not say worse. But so far pretty meh! |
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By *otMe66Man 8 weeks ago
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"How long can the rest of the Labour put up with him before he is replaced . He is obviously out of his depth as a leader.
Explain how he is out of his depth please"
He announced GB energy was up and running, that is a shocker if it is.
He cut WFA without any consultation or risk assessment.
He claims in every interview that he inherited a 22 billion blackhole but refuses to release the details of the 22 billion blackhole under FOI requests.
He did not negotiate a bilateral contract when awarding pay increases way above inflation, leaving the door open for more industrial action and no improvements to services.
Britains biggest house builder is now cancelling building projects due to labours unachievable housing plans and the impact it will have on them as a business, as Labour will rely on the private sector to the work, again without any form of consultation.
He broke the ceiling for SPAD's salaries and approved a salary above his own for Sue Gray, it has caused massive unrest and numerous leaks of information from no10.
Sue Gray is conducting national meetings of importance and deciding on who or isn't being appointed in roles such as special advisors, whilst keeping Starmer out of the loop, at this point it appears Gray is having more of a hand in running the country that Starmer.
His ratings are going down quickly, showing a lack of confidence in him as a person and leader.
He has already needed to stipulate publicly that he is in control, not a good luck and especially when you consider that any vote against his policies will be punished by removing the whip. That is not being in control, that is the signs of a very nervous man who knows he his hiding the true feelings behind his decisions.
He has done nothing to lift the mood of the country, rather the opposite with his constant warnings of pain to come and tiring people out with claims of the 22 billion blackhole. This in fairness could be added to the ratings dip.
There is more but you get the idea and from only the first 79 days in office, I dread to think what we can expect on day 365 and beyond.
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"How long can the rest of the Labour put up with him before he is replaced . He is obviously out of his depth as a leader.
Explain how he is out of his depth please
He announced GB energy was up and running, that is a shocker if it is.
He cut WFA without any consultation or risk assessment.
He claims in every interview that he inherited a 22 billion blackhole but refuses to release the details of the 22 billion blackhole under FOI requests.
He did not negotiate a bilateral contract when awarding pay increases way above inflation, leaving the door open for more industrial action and no improvements to services.
Britains biggest house builder is now cancelling building projects due to labours unachievable housing plans and the impact it will have on them as a business, as Labour will rely on the private sector to the work, again without any form of consultation.
He broke the ceiling for SPAD's salaries and approved a salary above his own for Sue Gray, it has caused massive unrest and numerous leaks of information from no10.
Sue Gray is conducting national meetings of importance and deciding on who or isn't being appointed in roles such as special advisors, whilst keeping Starmer out of the loop, at this point it appears Gray is having more of a hand in running the country that Starmer.
His ratings are going down quickly, showing a lack of confidence in him as a person and leader.
He has already needed to stipulate publicly that he is in control, not a good luck and especially when you consider that any vote against his policies will be punished by removing the whip. That is not being in control, that is the signs of a very nervous man who knows he his hiding the true feelings behind his decisions.
He has done nothing to lift the mood of the country, rather the opposite with his constant warnings of pain to come and tiring people out with claims of the 22 billion blackhole. This in fairness could be added to the ratings dip.
There is more but you get the idea and from only the first 79 days in office, I dread to think what we can expect on day 365 and beyond.
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By *otMe66Man 7 weeks ago
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"How long can the rest of the Labour put up with him before he is replaced . He is obviously out of his depth as a leader.
Explain how he is out of his depth please
He announced GB energy was up and running, that is a shocker if it is.
He cut WFA without any consultation or risk assessment.
He claims in every interview that he inherited a 22 billion blackhole but refuses to release the details of the 22 billion blackhole under FOI requests.
He did not negotiate a bilateral contract when awarding pay increases way above inflation, leaving the door open for more industrial action and no improvements to services.
Britains biggest house builder is now cancelling building projects due to labours unachievable housing plans and the impact it will have on them as a business, as Labour will rely on the private sector to the work, again without any form of consultation.
He broke the ceiling for SPAD's salaries and approved a salary above his own for Sue Gray, it has caused massive unrest and numerous leaks of information from no10.
Sue Gray is conducting national meetings of importance and deciding on who or isn't being appointed in roles such as special advisors, whilst keeping Starmer out of the loop, at this point it appears Gray is having more of a hand in running the country that Starmer.
His ratings are going down quickly, showing a lack of confidence in him as a person and leader.
He has already needed to stipulate publicly that he is in control, not a good luck and especially when you consider that any vote against his policies will be punished by removing the whip. That is not being in control, that is the signs of a very nervous man who knows he his hiding the true feelings behind his decisions.
He has done nothing to lift the mood of the country, rather the opposite with his constant warnings of pain to come and tiring people out with claims of the 22 billion blackhole. This in fairness could be added to the ratings dip.
There is more but you get the idea and from only the first 79 days in office, I dread to think what we can expect on day 365 and beyond.
But apart from all that, everything is OK? "
All good, we have whataboutery to dine out on for the next 4 years, that makes everything better  |
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Down 10% in the polls, too. 