In the other thread, it was asked who voted Labour. I did.
Anyone thinking Labour could correct all what went wrong through the previous tory shite govt in two months (most of that being in recess), give your head a wobble.
Let them have their five years, then complain. But note, it will take longer than that to do a complete 360 degree turn around to become a thriving economy, an ok tax system, more buildings (homes, hospitals, prisons), a better staffed and happier public sector (therefore meeting productivity requirements), a handle on immigration (legal and asylum seekers), energy costs levelled out, and clean waters (re sewage control). |
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Once they decided to stop the rich tax it was finally over for me and labour, well I didn't vote for them I voted for no one and will continue to do so.
M.P's are just one large group called the privy counsel, and their allegiance is to Charlie not me. |
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"Once they decided to stop the rich tax it was finally over for me and labour, well I didn't vote for them I voted for no one and will continue to do so.
M.P's are just one large group called the privy counsel, and their allegiance is to Charlie not me."
Not all MPs are on the Privy Council, it also contains high ranking clergy. Mrs x |
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"In the other thread, it was asked who voted Labour. I did.
Anyone thinking Labour could correct all what went wrong through the previous tory shite govt in two months (most of that being in recess), give your head a wobble.
Let them have their five years, then complain. But note, it will take longer than that to do a complete 360 degree turn around to become a thriving economy, an ok tax system, more buildings (homes, hospitals, prisons), a better staffed and happier public sector (therefore meeting productivity requirements), a handle on immigration (legal and asylum seekers), energy costs levelled out, and clean waters (re sewage control)."
same circus different clown, will be same shit show in five years time will still be the same shit show in ten years time if wheres wally gets a second term, dunno why everyone thinks things were so great before the torys got in, blair had 2 or 3 good years when he first got in from his second term onwards the wheels started coming off,have lived under torys and labour and can safley say my life has not been any better under either of them, |
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"can guarantee after 5 years Labour taxes will be higher and the state will be bigger but there wont be that much improvement - always ends in tears!"
Everyone Tory government have borrowed more and repayed less than every Labour government since the end of WW2.
The last Tory government placed the largest tax burden on the electorate for over 75 years.
And under Blair the government saw the longest, continuous period of growth of any party in modern history.
So what are you actually basing your opinions on because it's not facts. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story though, Mrs x |
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"can guarantee after 5 years Labour taxes will be higher and the state will be bigger but there wont be that much improvement - always ends in tears!Everyone Tory government have borrowed more and repayed less than every Labour government since the end of WW2.
The last Tory government placed the largest tax burden on the electorate for over 75 years.
And under Blair the government saw the longest, continuous period of growth of any party in modern history.
So what are you actually basing your opinions on because it's not facts. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story though, Mrs x"
Cos righteous righties just cannot give an inch. |
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"In the other thread, it was asked who voted Labour. I did.
Anyone thinking Labour could correct all what went wrong through the previous tory shite govt in two months (most of that being in recess), give your head a wobble.
Let them have their five years, then complain. But note, it will take longer than that to do a complete 360 degree turn around to become a thriving economy, an ok tax system, more buildings (homes, hospitals, prisons), a better staffed and happier public sector (therefore meeting productivity requirements), a handle on immigration (legal and asylum seekers), energy costs levelled out, and clean waters (re sewage control)."
Sounds like you're getting your excuses in early here Amelie. At least now you've confessed we know who to blame    |
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"can guarantee after 5 years Labour taxes will be higher and the state will be bigger but there wont be that much improvement - always ends in tears!Everyone Tory government have borrowed more and repayed less than every Labour government since the end of WW2.
The last Tory government placed the largest tax burden on the electorate for over 75 years.
And under Blair the government saw the longest, continuous period of growth of any party in modern history.
So what are you actually basing your opinions on because it's not facts. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story though, Mrs x
Cos righteous righties just cannot give an inch."
The go on about the party of high taxation, that's not true and is based upon one tax rise, of the highest band of income tax in the seventies. Mrs x |
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The crank army is now in power.
In 5 years this country will be bankrupt with no electricity/power! So no one will know lol.
No TV or internet.
Let's just hope these a bit of wind to charge your phone 😉. |
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"The crank army is now in power.
In 5 years this country will be bankrupt with no electricity/power! So no one will know lol.
No TV or internet.
Let's just hope these a bit of wind to charge your phone 😉."
In five years, Reform UK will be kicking the arses of both Labour and the Tories. Come on Britain, Farage for PM! |
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Come on! We've suffered under the tories, let us suffer under labour before you moan. Oh but the RRs cannot do that. They simply hope that throwing shit at the govt, some of it sticks and it results, almost akin to a self fulfilling prophecy.
"We told you lefties!"
"We told you lefties!"
And so it goes on. |
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Labour promised to undo all of the most unpopular Tory policies. They haven’t unpicked one, all they have done is the unthinkable, they have gone after pensioners.
Whatabotery means nothing, especially when things are just going to get worse.
If Labour really are that much better, when are they going to undo what was already done? |
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"The crank army is now in power.
In 5 years this country will be bankrupt with no electricity/power! So no one will know lol.
No TV or internet.
Let's just hope these a bit of wind to charge your phone 😉.
In five years, Reform UK will be kicking the arses of both Labour and the Tories. Come on Britain, Farage for PM!"
Funniest thing I've read in ages |
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By *otMe66Man 8 weeks ago
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The tag line of people expecting labour to turn the country around in 2 months is obviously not a true reflection of public thinking. However, it offers a comfort blanket for the leftists who are watching what can only be described as a piss poor start by labour that not even our resident anti labour poster was expecting.
Nobody expected labour to set about making things worse that they already were, it was a near impossible thing to do, but my god they are going for it.
14 years of pain! Viva la revolution comrades |
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"Come on! We've suffered under the tories, let us suffer under labour before you moan. Oh but the RRs cannot do that. They simply hope that throwing shit at the govt, some of it sticks and it results, almost akin to a self fulfilling prophecy.
"We told you lefties!"
"We told you lefties!"
And so it goes on."
When will the govt stop blaming the Tories then? And while we're at it, labour had 14 years in opposition so exactly why are they not ready to move on every issue? |
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"The tag line of people expecting labour to turn the country around in 2 months is obviously not a true reflection of public thinking. However, it offers a comfort blanket for the leftists who are watching what can only be described as a piss poor start by labour that not even our resident anti labour poster was expecting.
Nobody expected labour to set about making things worse that they already were, it was a near impossible thing to do, but my god they are going for it.
14 years of pain! Viva la revolution comrades "
It's a reflection of the RRs (that sounds so much like arses  ) in this forum  |
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"Come on! We've suffered under the tories, let us suffer under labour before you moan. Oh but the RRs cannot do that. They simply hope that throwing shit at the govt, some of it sticks and it results, almost akin to a self fulfilling prophecy.
"We told you lefties!"
"We told you lefties!"
And so it goes on.
When will the govt stop blaming the Tories then? And while we're at it, labour had 14 years in opposition so exactly why are they not ready to move on every issue?"
Ministers were blaming labour all the way through their 14 year term. Did you never watch QT or LK?
As for 14 years - oh I cba. I've stated my opinion on this illogical viewpoint in past threads |
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"Come on! We've suffered under the tories, let us suffer under labour before you moan. Oh but the RRs cannot do that. They simply hope that throwing shit at the govt, some of it sticks and it results, almost akin to a self fulfilling prophecy.
"We told you lefties!"
"We told you lefties!"
And so it goes on.
When will the govt stop blaming the Tories then? And while we're at it, labour had 14 years in opposition so exactly why are they not ready to move on every issue?"
Labour have moved on some key issues already:-
- Reduced pensions
- Awarded lavish public sector pay increases
- Imprisoned protesters
- Released criminals into the community
It's already starting to feel like a socialist paradise. |
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"Come on! We've suffered under the tories, let us suffer under labour before you moan. Oh but the RRs cannot do that. They simply hope that throwing shit at the govt, some of it sticks and it results, almost akin to a self fulfilling prophecy.
"We told you lefties!"
"We told you lefties!"
And so it goes on.
When will the govt stop blaming the Tories then? And while we're at it, labour had 14 years in opposition so exactly why are they not ready to move on every issue?
Labour have moved on some key issues already:-
- Reduced pensions
- Awarded lavish public sector pay increases
- Imprisoned protesters
- Released criminals into the community
It's already starting to feel like a socialist paradise."
Resist the bait
Resist the bait
Remember it's just a maggot |
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By *otMe66Man 8 weeks ago
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There is one piece of very important news that seems to have flown under the radar.
Barratt housing, the largest builder in Britain has pulled 4 planning applications over the governments proposals to make 50% of the build affordable housing on green belt as part of it drive 1.5 million new homes.
They have rightly said it offers no value in building, so guess what they are not going to bother.
I called this out when they launched their manifesto, pledging to build 1.5 million homes and saying the private sector would do the work.
The very idea they can make a private business do their bidding is bat shit crazy 
Also remember my prediction that Starmer wouldn't last the term, and the sankes would be removing him to allow the left of the party in..... I'm feeling quietly confident about that. |
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"There is one piece of very important news that seems to have flown under the radar.
Barratt housing, the largest builder in Britain has pulled 4 planning applications over the governments proposals to make 50% of the build affordable housing on green belt as part of it drive 1.5 million new homes.
They have rightly said it offers no value in building, so guess what they are not going to bother.
I called this out when they launched their manifesto, pledging to build 1.5 million homes and saying the private sector would do the work.
The very idea they can make a private business do their bidding is bat shit crazy
Also remember my prediction that Starmer wouldn't last the term, and the sankes would be removing him to allow the left of the party in..... I'm feeling quietly confident about that."
it's laughable that they thought private firms would do the work,if there ain't any profit it ain't getting built |
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"can guarantee after 5 years Labour taxes will be higher and the state will be bigger but there wont be that much improvement - always ends in tears!Everyone Tory government have borrowed more and repayed less than every Labour government since the end of WW2.
The last Tory government placed the largest tax burden on the electorate for over 75 years.
And under Blair the government saw the longest, continuous period of growth of any party in modern history.
So what are you actually basing your opinions on because it's not facts. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story though, Mrs x
Cos righteous righties just cannot give an inch."
I'm a Tory/Thatcherite by nature and I'm happy to slag the Tories off for 14 of piss poor governance and frequently do at all levels, whether they like it or not. If the Labour party makes a complete mess of this, will you have the good grace to concede it? I very much doubt it |
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I've lived through several Labour and Tory governments how I've survived is probably sheer luck. Because everyone of them has tried to fuck my life up continously. With the promise of improving it in the future.
I've worked out I would have to live until at least 2070 to see any improvement if there is a country left by then.
I can't see this goverment doing any better than the one before.
They'll have their scandals along the way.
They'll fall out with Unions.
They'll tax the nuts out of everybody.
They'll even get in a beef with Europe without even being in it.
Build new houses wishful thinking.
More trouble with water companies.
Foreign investment? All a bit pie in the sky.
It's not as promising as they make out whether it be in 5,10 or 15 years.
Hopefully newer more democratic parties grow who will replace the red and blue dictatorship we've had to endure, which have wrecked this country and keep trying to fuck up my life.
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Didn't vote for any of them, I spoiled my vote by drawing a dick around the reform candidate.
Yeah childish but lambeth is labour territory and got around 80%
At least I exercised my right to vote! |
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"Come on! We've suffered under the tories, let us suffer under labour before you moan. Oh but the RRs cannot do that. They simply hope that throwing shit at the govt, some of it sticks and it results, almost akin to a self fulfilling prophecy.
"We told you lefties!"
"We told you lefties!"
And so it goes on.
When will the govt stop blaming the Tories then? And while we're at it, labour had 14 years in opposition so exactly why are they not ready to move on every issue?
Labour have moved on some key issues already:-
- Reduced pensions
- Awarded lavish public sector pay increases
- Imprisoned protesters
- Released criminals into the community
It's already starting to feel like a socialist paradise.
Resist the bait
Resist the bait
Remember it's just a maggot "
Yet you still bit
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"can guarantee after 5 years Labour taxes will be higher and the state will be bigger but there wont be that much improvement - always ends in tears!Everyone Tory government have borrowed more and repayed less than every Labour government since the end of WW2.
The last Tory government placed the largest tax burden on the electorate for over 75 years.
And under Blair the government saw the longest, continuous period of growth of any party in modern history.
So what are you actually basing your opinions on because it's not facts. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story though, Mrs x
Cos righteous righties just cannot give an inch.
I'm a Tory/Thatcherite by nature and I'm happy to slag the Tories off for 14 of piss poor governance and frequently do at all levels, whether they like it or not. If the Labour party makes a complete mess of this, will you have the good grace to concede it? I very much doubt it "
I'm actually a liberal. My vote for Labour in a tory stronghold never amounted to much.
I'm the type of person who calls out right/wrong wherever I see it no matter who they are, even with my left leaning bias. Two months is not enough time to correct things. Ffs it'd take a miracle to correct things in two years!
Power corrupts. There will be Labour MPs who will be corrupted, by how much no-one knows. I just hope that this govt is more people serving than self serving and cronyism. They have a very difficult job in front of them. |
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"Come on! We've suffered under the tories, let us suffer under labour before you moan. Oh but the RRs cannot do that. They simply hope that throwing shit at the govt, some of it sticks and it results, almost akin to a self fulfilling prophecy.
"We told you lefties!"
"We told you lefties!"
And so it goes on.
When will the govt stop blaming the Tories then? And while we're at it, labour had 14 years in opposition so exactly why are they not ready to move on every issue?
Labour have moved on some key issues already:-
- Reduced pensions
- Awarded lavish public sector pay increases
- Imprisoned protesters
- Released criminals into the community
It's already starting to feel like a socialist paradise.
Resist the bait
Resist the bait
Remember it's just a maggot
Yet you still bit
"
Nah, I responded. Biting would have been to repeat my opinion |
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"can guarantee after 5 years Labour taxes will be higher and the state will be bigger but there wont be that much improvement - always ends in tears!Everyone Tory government have borrowed more and repayed less than every Labour government since the end of WW2.
The last Tory government placed the largest tax burden on the electorate for over 75 years.
And under Blair the government saw the longest, continuous period of growth of any party in modern history.
So what are you actually basing your opinions on because it's not facts. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story though, Mrs x
Cos righteous righties just cannot give an inch.
I'm a Tory/Thatcherite by nature and I'm happy to slag the Tories off for 14 of piss poor governance and frequently do at all levels, whether they like it or not. If the Labour party makes a complete mess of this, will you have the good grace to concede it? I very much doubt it
I'm actually a liberal. My vote for Labour in a tory stronghold never amounted to much.
I'm the type of person who calls out right/wrong wherever I see it no matter who they are, even with my left leaning bias. Two months is not enough time to correct things. Ffs it'd take a miracle to correct things in two years!
Power corrupts. There will be Labour MPs who will be corrupted, by how much no-one knows. I just hope that this govt is more people serving than self serving and cronyism. They have a very difficult job in front of them."
We've already seen a few bits of cronyism in just a few weeks or as Labour fans like yo say 'it's mostly been recess', so maybe it's happened in a few days.
You can hope all you like but I'm afraid you'll be disappointed (if you're willing to look at things objectively). |
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By *irldnCouple 8 weeks ago
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"It is disappointing.
Farewell to the old boss
Welcome to the new boss
Same as the old boss
It's only disappointing if you believed they would be any different. "
I actually thought they WOULD be different. Not better. Just different. Change was needed. If for nothing else so we can complain about different stuff at last! |
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"It is disappointing.
Farewell to the old boss
Welcome to the new boss
Same as the old boss
It's only disappointing if you believed they would be any different.
I actually thought they WOULD be different. Not better. Just different. Change was needed. If for nothing else so we can complain about different stuff at last!"
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"can guarantee after 5 years Labour taxes will be higher and the state will be bigger but there wont be that much improvement - always ends in tears!Everyone Tory government have borrowed more and repayed less than every Labour government since the end of WW2.
The last Tory government placed the largest tax burden on the electorate for over 75 years.
And under Blair the government saw the longest, continuous period of growth of any party in modern history.
So what are you actually basing your opinions on because it's not facts. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story though, Mrs x
Cos righteous righties just cannot give an inch.
I'm a Tory/Thatcherite by nature and I'm happy to slag the Tories off for 14 of piss poor governance and frequently do at all levels, whether they like it or not. If the Labour party makes a complete mess of this, will you have the good grace to concede it? I very much doubt it
I'm actually a liberal. My vote for Labour in a tory stronghold never amounted to much.
I'm the type of person who calls out right/wrong wherever I see it no matter who they are, even with my left leaning bias. Two months is not enough time to correct things. Ffs it'd take a miracle to correct things in two years!
Power corrupts. There will be Labour MPs who will be corrupted, by how much no-one knows. I just hope that this govt is more people serving than self serving and cronyism. They have a very difficult job in front of them."
Yes they have a very difficult job in front of them but to pretend everything they've come across since entering government is a huge shock is utter bollocks. And not to have a plan for every issue despite being sat in opposition for half a generation is a joke. The Tories were shite, Labour look like heading down the same route. I ask again, if we're still in a mess in 5 years time, will you, as a labour voter, acknowledge it, or do exactly what every politician does and blame someone else??? |
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"The crank army is now in power.
In 5 years this country will be bankrupt with no electricity/power! So no one will know lol.
No TV or internet.
Let's just hope these a bit of wind to charge your phone 😉.
In five years, Reform UK will be kicking the arses of both Labour and the Tories. Come on Britain, Farage for PM!
Funniest thing I've read in ages "
They all laughed at Christopher Columbus. |
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"can guarantee after 5 years Labour taxes will be higher and the state will be bigger but there wont be that much improvement - always ends in tears!Everyone Tory government have borrowed more and repayed less than every Labour government since the end of WW2.
The last Tory government placed the largest tax burden on the electorate for over 75 years.
And under Blair the government saw the longest, continuous period of growth of any party in modern history.
So what are you actually basing your opinions on because it's not facts. Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story though, Mrs x
Cos righteous righties just cannot give an inch.
I'm a Tory/Thatcherite by nature and I'm happy to slag the Tories off for 14 of piss poor governance and frequently do at all levels, whether they like it or not. If the Labour party makes a complete mess of this, will you have the good grace to concede it? I very much doubt it
I'm actually a liberal. My vote for Labour in a tory stronghold never amounted to much.
I'm the type of person who calls out right/wrong wherever I see it no matter who they are, even with my left leaning bias. Two months is not enough time to correct things. Ffs it'd take a miracle to correct things in two years!
Power corrupts. There will be Labour MPs who will be corrupted, by how much no-one knows. I just hope that this govt is more people serving than self serving and cronyism. They have a very difficult job in front of them.
Yes they have a very difficult job in front of them but to pretend everything they've come across since entering government is a huge shock is utter bollocks. And not to have a plan for every issue despite being sat in opposition for half a generation is a joke. The Tories were shite, Labour look like heading down the same route. I ask again, if we're still in a mess in 5 years time, will you, as a labour voter, acknowledge it, or do exactly what every politician does and blame someone else???"
Can you not read? I'll damn well will lambast them. |
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