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"Ok not really but having recently been detained at Canadian immigration and sent home he has posted his arrest paper's on social media. So he has an Irish passport which he was able to apply for as his mother was an Irish immigrant however it states that his place of birth is Ireland when it is Luton. This makes it invalid and the Irish "foreign secretary" whatever his title, is calling for it to be confiscated. I'm sure he has a British one but could be the end of his free EU movement and residence in marbella? Poor guy just can't get a break these days " Hang on, you’re saying that super patriot little Tommy ten names has an Irish passport? | |||
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"Ok not really but having recently been detained at Canadian immigration and sent home he has posted his arrest paper's on social media. So he has an Irish passport which he was able to apply for as his mother was an Irish immigrant however it states that his place of birth is Ireland when it is Luton. This makes it invalid and the Irish "foreign secretary" whatever his title, is calling for it to be confiscated. I'm sure he has a British one but could be the end of his free EU movement and residence in marbella? Poor guy just can't get a break these days Hang on, you’re saying that super patriot little Tommy ten names has an Irish passport?" And currently lives in one of those foreign EU countries. Can't really call him an ex pat or economic migrant as he is a lazy sponger that lives off his followers that support his cause. You'll get the same tripe if he loses his Irish passport "I'm a victim as I'm English yadda but then they let people over on boats yadda. They are trying to silence yadda. Now send me money and a few bags | |||
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"having recently been detained at Canadian immigration and sent home " to where ? | |||
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"having recently been detained at Canadian immigration and sent home to where ?" HOME! | |||
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"having recently been detained at Canadian immigration and sent home to where ? HOME!" I don't know where he lives. That's why I asked you to tell me please. | |||
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"Hopefully there will be a string of civil claims against him for criminal damages across the country he incited and the government gives him the bill for all the policing costs Bankrupt him and send him to Hamas " Watched a very good interview with the now retired former head of the met and former head of CT. He gave some insight into the riots, the fast track sentencing and named certain people that could be facing terror charges based on what they posted on line. Also touched a bit on what it was like joing the police back in the day being mixed race. Got abuse from both his white colleagues and black friends. We'll see | |||
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"During the riots he was on holiday in Cyprus" Probably had some annual leave to use up. | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? " TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? " Convicted Mortgage fraudster amongst all the other stuff | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? " yes was sent to prison on some bullshit charge about exposing the names of a grooming gang if I remember good on the lad for doing that if it wasn’t for him we would never of heard about shit like that he was talking about it for years but funny enough they didn’t want to know | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? yes was sent to prison on some bullshit charge about exposing the names of a grooming gang if I remember good on the lad for doing that if it wasn’t for him we would never of heard about shit like that he was talking about it for years but funny enough they didn’t want to know " That wasn't exactly how it went down now was it? Admittedly that case was a bit wooley but punching a copper is pretty clear cut! | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? yes was sent to prison on some bullshit charge about exposing the names of a grooming gang if I remember good on the lad for doing that if it wasn’t for him we would never of heard about shit like that he was talking about it for years but funny enough they didn’t want to know " No, he committed contempt of court by revealing details whilst the trial was ongoing, thus potentially providing a way for the defence to get the suspects off. I imagine that would then have caused a lot of unrest, which is definitely not what Tommy ‘gofundme’ Robinson wanted 🙄 | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? yes was sent to prison on some bullshit charge about exposing the names of a grooming gang if I remember good on the lad for doing that if it wasn’t for him we would never of heard about shit like that he was talking about it for years but funny enough they didn’t want to know No, he committed contempt of court by revealing details whilst the trial was ongoing, thus potentially providing a way for the defence to get the suspects off. I imagine that would then have caused a lot of unrest, which is definitely not what Tommy ‘gofundme’ Robinson wanted 🙄" He was also on probation at the time, which didn't help! | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? yes was sent to prison on some bullshit charge about exposing the names of a grooming gang if I remember good on the lad for doing that if it wasn’t for him we would never of heard about shit like that he was talking about it for years but funny enough they didn’t want to know No, he committed contempt of court by revealing details whilst the trial was ongoing, thus potentially providing a way for the defence to get the suspects off. I imagine that would then have caused a lot of unrest, which is definitely not what Tommy ‘gofundme’ Robinson wanted 🙄" but the defence didn’t get them off we all know Tommy was banging on about the grooming gangs for years but the police ignored it if it wasn’t for Tommy wonder how many young girls would of still been abused if I’m right the police had the names of around 300 men but charged 11 I’m not saying he’s a saint but it can’t be ignored that it was him that brought this to the attention of the world | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.." Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash???" I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be.. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be.." aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? yes was sent to prison on some bullshit charge about exposing the names of a grooming gang if I remember good on the lad for doing that if it wasn’t for him we would never of heard about shit like that he was talking about it for years but funny enough they didn’t want to know No, he committed contempt of court by revealing details whilst the trial was ongoing, thus potentially providing a way for the defence to get the suspects off. I imagine that would then have caused a lot of unrest, which is definitely not what Tommy ‘gofundme’ Robinson wanted 🙄but the defence didn’t get them off we all know Tommy was banging on about the grooming gangs for years but the police ignored it if it wasn’t for Tommy wonder how many young girls would of still been abused if I’m right the police had the names of around 300 men but charged 11 I’m not saying he’s a saint but it can’t be ignored that it was him that brought this to the attention of the world " No it didn't harm the defence in this case fortunately but does that make it OK? If I driving home d*unk and get stopped by the police outside my house, if I didn't have an accident an injure anyone should I not be arrested? | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides " Yep watched that interview as well. I wouldn't call Jordan peterson natural and the interview was a little one sided? Yeah I've watched the silenced documentary as well before you bring that up | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides Yep watched that interview as well. I wouldn't call Jordan peterson natural and the interview was a little one sided? Yeah I've watched the silenced documentary as well before you bring that up" Neutral | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash???" I'm going to challenge this on the face value of your post. What is wrong with posting locations of asylum hotels and I assume dates that protests were arranged? If that is all he posted what is the crime, did he post anything above and beyond the address and date. | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? yes was sent to prison on some bullshit charge about exposing the names of a grooming gang if I remember good on the lad for doing that if it wasn’t for him we would never of heard about shit like that he was talking about it for years but funny enough they didn’t want to know No, he committed contempt of court by revealing details whilst the trial was ongoing, thus potentially providing a way for the defence to get the suspects off. I imagine that would then have caused a lot of unrest, which is definitely not what Tommy ‘gofundme’ Robinson wanted 🙄but the defence didn’t get them off we all know Tommy was banging on about the grooming gangs for years but the police ignored it if it wasn’t for Tommy wonder how many young girls would of still been abused if I’m right the police had the names of around 300 men but charged 11 I’m not saying he’s a saint but it can’t be ignored that it was him that brought this to the attention of the world No it didn't harm the defence in this case fortunately but does that make it OK? If I driving home d*unk and get stopped by the police outside my house, if I didn't have an accident an injure anyone should I not be arrested? " exactly it didn’t but what it did was draw attention to the case so good on the lad don’t you agree | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I'm going to challenge this on the face value of your post. What is wrong with posting locations of asylum hotels and I assume dates that protests were arranged? If that is all he posted what is the crime, did he post anything above and beyond the address and date. " he’s had his address revealed by mainstream media lots of times his wife and kids faced death threats but I guess that’s ok tho for some two sides to every story | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides Yep watched that interview as well. I wouldn't call Jordan peterson natural and the interview was a little one sided? Yeah I've watched the silenced documentary as well before you bring that up" and wherent you alarmed by them tho be honest ? | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? yes was sent to prison on some bullshit charge about exposing the names of a grooming gang if I remember good on the lad for doing that if it wasn’t for him we would never of heard about shit like that he was talking about it for years but funny enough they didn’t want to know No, he committed contempt of court by revealing details whilst the trial was ongoing, thus potentially providing a way for the defence to get the suspects off. I imagine that would then have caused a lot of unrest, which is definitely not what Tommy ‘gofundme’ Robinson wanted 🙄but the defence didn’t get them off we all know Tommy was banging on about the grooming gangs for years but the police ignored it if it wasn’t for Tommy wonder how many young girls would of still been abused if I’m right the police had the names of around 300 men but charged 11 I’m not saying he’s a saint but it can’t be ignored that it was him that brought this to the attention of the world No it didn't harm the defence in this case fortunately but does that make it OK? If I driving home d*unk and get stopped by the police outside my house, if I didn't have an accident an injure anyone should I not be arrested? exactly it didn’t but what it did was draw attention to the case so good on the lad don’t you agree " NO! he should have left the lawyers and judge to do their jobs and not try to hijack it for his own personal gain and propaganda! | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides Yep watched that interview as well. I wouldn't call Jordan peterson natural and the interview was a little one sided? Yeah I've watched the silenced documentary as well before you bring that up and wherent you alarmed by them tho be honest ?" The documentary did open my eyes a little. Like he thinks the majority of people are stupid and he can't even build a very very weak house of cards! | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? yes was sent to prison on some bullshit charge about exposing the names of a grooming gang if I remember good on the lad for doing that if it wasn’t for him we would never of heard about shit like that he was talking about it for years but funny enough they didn’t want to know No, he committed contempt of court by revealing details whilst the trial was ongoing, thus potentially providing a way for the defence to get the suspects off. I imagine that would then have caused a lot of unrest, which is definitely not what Tommy ‘gofundme’ Robinson wanted 🙄but the defence didn’t get them off we all know Tommy was banging on about the grooming gangs for years but the police ignored it if it wasn’t for Tommy wonder how many young girls would of still been abused if I’m right the police had the names of around 300 men but charged 11 I’m not saying he’s a saint but it can’t be ignored that it was him that brought this to the attention of the world No it didn't harm the defence in this case fortunately but does that make it OK? If I driving home d*unk and get stopped by the police outside my house, if I didn't have an accident an injure anyone should I not be arrested? exactly it didn’t but what it did was draw attention to the case so good on the lad don’t you agree NO! he should have left the lawyers and judge to do their jobs and not try to hijack it for his own personal gain and propaganda!" maybe your right but he did bring attention to the case the attention he had brought out for years would the authorities have acted on thease cases if it wasn’t for the likes of him how many young lasses as he saved I’d guess it’s a hell of a lot over a thousand in Telford alone were r@ped and tortured god knows how many across the U.K. I bet it’s tens of thousands don’t here much about it now on mainstream media wonder why | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides Yep watched that interview as well. I wouldn't call Jordan peterson natural and the interview was a little one sided? Yeah I've watched the silenced documentary as well before you bring that up and wherent you alarmed by them tho be honest ? The documentary did open my eyes a little. Like he thinks the majority of people are stupid and he can't even build a very very weak house of cards!" so you didn’t believe him then just like know one did 15years ago in his eyes he’s actually speaking up for the majority the working class | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides " There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for.. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for.." doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides Yep watched that interview as well. I wouldn't call Jordan peterson natural and the interview was a little one sided? Yeah I've watched the silenced documentary as well before you bring that up and wherent you alarmed by them tho be honest ? The documentary did open my eyes a little. Like he thinks the majority of people are stupid and he can't even build a very very weak house of cards!" atleast your opinions are based on two sides of the story respect to you for that | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides Yep watched that interview as well. I wouldn't call Jordan peterson natural and the interview was a little one sided? Yeah I've watched the silenced documentary as well before you bring that up and wherent you alarmed by them tho be honest ? The documentary did open my eyes a little. Like he thinks the majority of people are stupid and he can't even build a very very weak house of cards!so you didn’t believe him then just like know one did 15years ago in his eyes he’s actually speaking up for the majority the working class " No didn't believe one word of his documentary. He "secretly" filmed about a dozen people said things that the afgan boy had done. Causing trouble and abusing girls but they couldn't talk about it as they were forced to sign NDA's??? In my experience NDA's are usually given to unfairly dismissed employees along with a nice wad of cash to prevent it going to court. Who forced them to sign NDA's? The school? Did they pay them off with the schools budget? And why exactly Tommys two pieces of defence evidence were photos of a beaten up girl that were sent to him by a mum claiming the afghan boy did it too her daughter and a girl who claimed he had split her head open with a hockey stick. Now if you read the court transcripts which are in the public domain! Tommy admitted he had taken those pictures off a random Internet page! His star witness claimed she had reported the incident to the school and went to hospital for stitches. Unable to prove this by the school or hospital records she fell apart. Began crying and said she knew she was being filmed and talked into coming to court and had made it up. I'm not denying there were Muslim gangs targeting and grooming vulnerable girls and social workers failed them. Hence why an inquiry was launched. Do you like TR actually cares about those girls or using it to his advantage? | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I'm going to challenge this on the face value of your post. What is wrong with posting locations of asylum hotels and I assume dates that protests were arranged? If that is all he posted what is the crime, did he post anything above and beyond the address and date. " The former head of the met seemed to think he would face criminal charges. I don't know as much about law as this guy but I guess we'll find out in the upcoming weeks Oh and I do not watch TR videos through my own personal twitter. I like having a job | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides Yep watched that interview as well. I wouldn't call Jordan peterson natural and the interview was a little one sided? Yeah I've watched the silenced documentary as well before you bring that up and wherent you alarmed by them tho be honest ? The documentary did open my eyes a little. Like he thinks the majority of people are stupid and he can't even build a very very weak house of cards!so you didn’t believe him then just like know one did 15years ago in his eyes he’s actually speaking up for the majority the working class No didn't believe one word of his documentary. He "secretly" filmed about a dozen people said things that the afgan boy had done. Causing trouble and abusing girls but they couldn't talk about it as they were forced to sign NDA's??? In my experience NDA's are usually given to unfairly dismissed employees along with a nice wad of cash to prevent it going to court. Who forced them to sign NDA's? The school? Did they pay them off with the schools budget? And why exactly Tommys two pieces of defence evidence were photos of a beaten up girl that were sent to him by a mum claiming the afghan boy did it too her daughter and a girl who claimed he had split her head open with a hockey stick. Now if you read the court transcripts which are in the public domain! Tommy admitted he had taken those pictures off a random Internet page! His star witness claimed she had reported the incident to the school and went to hospital for stitches. Unable to prove this by the school or hospital records she fell apart. Began crying and said she knew she was being filmed and talked into coming to court and had made it up. I'm not denying there were Muslim gangs targeting and grooming vulnerable girls and social workers failed them. Hence why an inquiry was launched. Do you like TR actually cares about those girls or using it to his advantage?" ofcourse he care who wouldn’t head two daughters the boy who was attracted ended up living woth Tommy for 3 years so to say he doesn’t care is silly he secretly caught journalist on video lying so good on him for recording them Panarama stitched him up he proved all that the girl your talking about later admitted she was forced to take back her statements she ended up the victim like alot of them have you seen the interview with the girl called sammy about the police coming to her house about a social media post intimidating her even tho she was one of the grooming victims it’s discusting how these lasses are still been victimised even you with your post are doing it maybe not intentionally my heart goes out to every last one of them and shame on the professionals that looked down there noses at them and good on anyone with the balls to try and call this out | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I'm going to challenge this on the face value of your post. What is wrong with posting locations of asylum hotels and I assume dates that protests were arranged? If that is all he posted what is the crime, did he post anything above and beyond the address and date. The former head of the met seemed to think he would face criminal charges. I don't know as much about law as this guy but I guess we'll find out in the upcoming weeks Oh and I do not watch TR videos through my own personal twitter. I like having a job" don’t we all hats of to YouTube then should try it | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I'm going to challenge this on the face value of your post. What is wrong with posting locations of asylum hotels and I assume dates that protests were arranged? If that is all he posted what is the crime, did he post anything above and beyond the address and date. The former head of the met seemed to think he would face criminal charges. I don't know as much about law as this guy but I guess we'll find out in the upcoming weeks Oh and I do not watch TR videos through my own personal twitter. I like having a job" Would you worry that watching a TR video would likely lead to you losing a job? There are many things to unpack in that if you do, following and supporting TR is not = to watching a video, for a start. If you left no comment your footprint would be invisible amongst the millions, unless your activity across the internet is being monitored from a very local and worrying position, that would involve a warrant at that level of monitoring. Thirdly, it brings me to the most concerning thing in that statement, the fear of the narrative being imposed on the public about use of social media and consequences that have been supported by speedy and lengthy jail terms. That side of things worries me the most, the influence political and government areas have on our freedom of thought, a form of social scoring is becoming more possible. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I'm going to challenge this on the face value of your post. What is wrong with posting locations of asylum hotels and I assume dates that protests were arranged? If that is all he posted what is the crime, did he post anything above and beyond the address and date. The former head of the met seemed to think he would face criminal charges. I don't know as much about law as this guy but I guess we'll find out in the upcoming weeks Oh and I do not watch TR videos through my own personal twitter. I like having a job Would you worry that watching a TR video would likely lead to you losing a job? There are many things to unpack in that if you do, following and supporting TR is not = to watching a video, for a start. If you left no comment your footprint would be invisible amongst the millions, unless your activity across the internet is being monitored from a very local and worrying position, that would involve a warrant at that level of monitoring. Thirdly, it brings me to the most concerning thing in that statement, the fear of the narrative being imposed on the public about use of social media and consequences that have been supported by speedy and lengthy jail terms. That side of things worries me the most, the influence political and government areas have on our freedom of thought, a form of social scoring is becoming more possible." Well my twitter use concern is my business. As for leaving a footprint, Well I work in IT Security and have done for 16 years. If you more than me then it would be stupid to argue | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides Yep watched that interview as well. I wouldn't call Jordan peterson natural and the interview was a little one sided? Yeah I've watched the silenced documentary as well before you bring that up and wherent you alarmed by them tho be honest ? The documentary did open my eyes a little. Like he thinks the majority of people are stupid and he can't even build a very very weak house of cards!so you didn’t believe him then just like know one did 15years ago in his eyes he’s actually speaking up for the majority the working class No didn't believe one word of his documentary. He "secretly" filmed about a dozen people said things that the afgan boy had done. Causing trouble and abusing girls but they couldn't talk about it as they were forced to sign NDA's??? In my experience NDA's are usually given to unfairly dismissed employees along with a nice wad of cash to prevent it going to court. Who forced them to sign NDA's? The school? Did they pay them off with the schools budget? And why exactly Tommys two pieces of defence evidence were photos of a beaten up girl that were sent to him by a mum claiming the afghan boy did it too her daughter and a girl who claimed he had split her head open with a hockey stick. Now if you read the court transcripts which are in the public domain! Tommy admitted he had taken those pictures off a random Internet page! His star witness claimed she had reported the incident to the school and went to hospital for stitches. Unable to prove this by the school or hospital records she fell apart. Began crying and said she knew she was being filmed and talked into coming to court and had made it up. I'm not denying there were Muslim gangs targeting and grooming vulnerable girls and social workers failed them. Hence why an inquiry was launched. Do you like TR actually cares about those girls or using it to his advantage?ofcourse he care who wouldn’t head two daughters the boy who was attracted ended up living woth Tommy for 3 years so to say he doesn’t care is silly he secretly caught journalist on video lying so good on him for recording them Panarama stitched him up he proved all that the girl your talking about later admitted she was forced to take back her statements she ended up the victim like alot of them have you seen the interview with the girl called sammy about the police coming to her house about a social media post intimidating her even tho she was one of the grooming victims it’s discusting how these lasses are still been victimised even you with your post are doing it maybe not intentionally my heart goes out to every last one of them and shame on the professionals that looked down there noses at them and good on anyone with the balls to try and call this out " I think you are maybe getting the grooming gangs case mixed up with TRs civil case! | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I'm going to challenge this on the face value of your post. What is wrong with posting locations of asylum hotels and I assume dates that protests were arranged? If that is all he posted what is the crime, did he post anything above and beyond the address and date. The former head of the met seemed to think he would face criminal charges. I don't know as much about law as this guy but I guess we'll find out in the upcoming weeks Oh and I do not watch TR videos through my own personal twitter. I like having a job Would you worry that watching a TR video would likely lead to you losing a job? There are many things to unpack in that if you do, following and supporting TR is not = to watching a video, for a start. If you left no comment your footprint would be invisible amongst the millions, unless your activity across the internet is being monitored from a very local and worrying position, that would involve a warrant at that level of monitoring. Thirdly, it brings me to the most concerning thing in that statement, the fear of the narrative being imposed on the public about use of social media and consequences that have been supported by speedy and lengthy jail terms. That side of things worries me the most, the influence political and government areas have on our freedom of thought, a form of social scoring is becoming more possible. Well my twitter use concern is my business. As for leaving a footprint, Well I work in IT Security and have done for 16 years. If you more than me then it would be stupid to argue" Sorry for deletes, phone…. You working in info-sec for 16 years, gives me a high confidence level that I would know more about the overall landscape, admittedly not the low level activities of an info-sec analyst / contractor but agreed on the arguing position, it is stupid, we will never know so best to simply step away.  | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I'm going to challenge this on the face value of your post. What is wrong with posting locations of asylum hotels and I assume dates that protests were arranged? If that is all he posted what is the crime, did he post anything above and beyond the address and date. The former head of the met seemed to think he would face criminal charges. I don't know as much about law as this guy but I guess we'll find out in the upcoming weeks Oh and I do not watch TR videos through my own personal twitter. I like having a job Would you worry that watching a TR video would likely lead to you losing a job? There are many things to unpack in that if you do, following and supporting TR is not = to watching a video, for a start. If you left no comment your footprint would be invisible amongst the millions, unless your activity across the internet is being monitored from a very local and worrying position, that would involve a warrant at that level of monitoring. Thirdly, it brings me to the most concerning thing in that statement, the fear of the narrative being imposed on the public about use of social media and consequences that have been supported by speedy and lengthy jail terms. That side of things worries me the most, the influence political and government areas have on our freedom of thought, a form of social scoring is becoming more possible." we should all fear being spied on on social media or whatever how did we ever let this happen tho when is no such thing as free become the norm | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I'm going to challenge this on the face value of your post. What is wrong with posting locations of asylum hotels and I assume dates that protests were arranged? If that is all he posted what is the crime, did he post anything above and beyond the address and date. The former head of the met seemed to think he would face criminal charges. I don't know as much about law as this guy but I guess we'll find out in the upcoming weeks Oh and I do not watch TR videos through my own personal twitter. I like having a job Would you worry that watching a TR video would likely lead to you losing a job? There are many things to unpack in that if you do, following and supporting TR is not = to watching a video, for a start. If you left no comment your footprint would be invisible amongst the millions, unless your activity across the internet is being monitored from a very local and worrying position, that would involve a warrant at that level of monitoring. Thirdly, it brings me to the most concerning thing in that statement, the fear of the narrative being imposed on the public about use of social media and consequences that have been supported by speedy and lengthy jail terms. That side of things worries me the most, the influence political and government areas have on our freedom of thought, a form of social scoring is becoming more possible.we should all fear being spied on on social media or whatever how did we ever let this happen tho when is no such thing as free become the norm " The laws that are in place to ensure the general public are not being spied on as you said, are strict. For you to be considered by authorities as someone of interest is a very high bar and the suspicion would need to be evidenced and presented at an extremely high level. The recent actions on prison sentences being handed out based on what appears to be surface level info being posted in public domain, needs nothing more than access to the content available for all to see, however we are starting to see acceptance of this type of policing. My worry is that we will start to see people being further surveilled at a deeper level based on likelihood rather than evidenced and as acceptance becomes championed in the name of attacking far right misinformation as an example, the bar to entry lowers further, and the question you have of how did we get here, will become a reality. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I'm going to challenge this on the face value of your post. What is wrong with posting locations of asylum hotels and I assume dates that protests were arranged? If that is all he posted what is the crime, did he post anything above and beyond the address and date. The former head of the met seemed to think he would face criminal charges. I don't know as much about law as this guy but I guess we'll find out in the upcoming weeks Oh and I do not watch TR videos through my own personal twitter. I like having a job Would you worry that watching a TR video would likely lead to you losing a job? There are many things to unpack in that if you do, following and supporting TR is not = to watching a video, for a start. If you left no comment your footprint would be invisible amongst the millions, unless your activity across the internet is being monitored from a very local and worrying position, that would involve a warrant at that level of monitoring. Thirdly, it brings me to the most concerning thing in that statement, the fear of the narrative being imposed on the public about use of social media and consequences that have been supported by speedy and lengthy jail terms. That side of things worries me the most, the influence political and government areas have on our freedom of thought, a form of social scoring is becoming more possible.we should all fear being spied on on social media or whatever how did we ever let this happen tho when is no such thing as free become the norm The laws that are in place to ensure the general public are not being spied on as you said, are strict. For you to be considered by authorities as someone of interest is a very high bar and the suspicion would need to be evidenced and presented at an extremely high level. The recent actions on prison sentences being handed out based on what appears to be surface level info being posted in public domain, needs nothing more than access to the content available for all to see, however we are starting to see acceptance of this type of policing. My worry is that we will start to see people being further surveilled at a deeper level based on likelihood rather than evidenced and as acceptance becomes championed in the name of attacking far right misinformation as an example, the bar to entry lowers further, and the question you have of how did we get here, will become a reality. " well said couldn’t agree more | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist " That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.." I don’t know maybe but iv never seen him come across as religious id say he knows more about Islam than he does the church I hope ppl do protest outside that church but I’m not as outraged over that as I am about the grooming gangs because I don’t think a dirty perve of a priest is as important by the numbers and the fact he won’t of discriminated over his victims by race of colour only my opinion | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. I don’t know maybe but iv never seen him come across as religious id say he knows more about Islam than he does the church I hope ppl do protest outside that church but I’m not as outraged over that as I am about the grooming gangs because I don’t think a dirty perve of a priest is as important by the numbers and the fact he won’t of discriminated over his victims by race of colour only my opinion " Surely wrong is wrong..? Or is it only when it's people that don't look like us the majority because that's certainly how it appears he thinks.. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.." TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? yes was sent to prison on some bullshit charge about exposing the names of a grooming gang if I remember good on the lad for doing that if it wasn’t for him we would never of heard about shit like that he was talking about it for years but funny enough they didn’t want to know No, he committed contempt of court by revealing details whilst the trial was ongoing, thus potentially providing a way for the defence to get the suspects off. I imagine that would then have caused a lot of unrest, which is definitely not what Tommy ‘gofundme’ Robinson wanted 🙄but the defence didn’t get them off we all know Tommy was banging on about the grooming gangs for years but the police ignored it if it wasn’t for Tommy wonder how many young girls would of still been abused if I’m right the police had the names of around 300 men but charged 11 I’m not saying he’s a saint but it can’t be ignored that it was him that brought this to the attention of the world No it didn't harm the defence in this case fortunately but does that make it OK? If I driving home d*unk and get stopped by the police outside my house, if I didn't have an accident an injure anyone should I not be arrested? exactly it didn’t but what it did was draw attention to the case so good on the lad don’t you agree " They were literally on trial and there are laws preventing certain things being reported so as not to prejudice the outcome of the trial. There was no need to bring attention to it, especially not if that attention could cause the defendants to get off. Unless of course you want them to get off… | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? yes was sent to prison on some bullshit charge about exposing the names of a grooming gang if I remember good on the lad for doing that if it wasn’t for him we would never of heard about shit like that he was talking about it for years but funny enough they didn’t want to know No, he committed contempt of court by revealing details whilst the trial was ongoing, thus potentially providing a way for the defence to get the suspects off. I imagine that would then have caused a lot of unrest, which is definitely not what Tommy ‘gofundme’ Robinson wanted 🙄but the defence didn’t get them off we all know Tommy was banging on about the grooming gangs for years but the police ignored it if it wasn’t for Tommy wonder how many young girls would of still been abused if I’m right the police had the names of around 300 men but charged 11 I’m not saying he’s a saint but it can’t be ignored that it was him that brought this to the attention of the world No it didn't harm the defence in this case fortunately but does that make it OK? If I driving home d*unk and get stopped by the police outside my house, if I didn't have an accident an injure anyone should I not be arrested? exactly it didn’t but what it did was draw attention to the case so good on the lad don’t you agree They were literally on trial and there are laws preventing certain things being reported so as not to prejudice the outcome of the trial. There was no need to bring attention to it, especially not if that attention could cause the defendants to get off. Unless of course you want them to get off…" You'll keep going round in circles here! I actually got 2 compliments on this post (or as close as you can get to one) I'll cash in my chips and leave | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. " I've said multiple times and agreed with you and you have also acknowledged when I've stated there are issues in society that affects all, housing, cost of living and yes for the umpteenth time the mess that is the current asylum system which successive governments have failed to grip and again the latter has criticism across all colours and cultures.. I'm not getting into a top trumps debate on who gets dealt with respective of far right, far left, BLM, 2011 riots, Leeds because very much a subjective viewpoint and becomes more about whataboutery than condemnation if all who break the law which should be the common ground .. Yes there's historical wrongs that have not been dealt with properly be that abuse in the institutions that used to be looked up to over decades, church homes, orphanages, schools etc and I agree there were shameful decisions not made regarding the recent vile abuse in Rotherham etc but such cowardly inactions didn't start there.. On the perception that it's only the far right that are under the microscope at present, the number of terror plots failed in the last ten years or so has risen so the state simply can't let that go undeterred as they can't with other radical extremists and their actions that we've witnessed such as the IS etc.. It used to be it was mostly the PLO and PIRA with a bit of animal liberation but things have moved on.. If the opinions being shut down are the ones that break the law then again that's got to be a commonly held standard whomever they are.. If the state under whichever government comes down on other language or beliefs that don't break the law then yes fully agree that should be challenged funnily enough when groups like liberty and good law project do hold the government to account the uproar from some on the right is palpable but who else will do it.. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. I've said multiple times and agreed with you and you have also acknowledged when I've stated there are issues in society that affects all, housing, cost of living and yes for the umpteenth time the mess that is the current asylum system which successive governments have failed to grip and again the latter has criticism across all colours and cultures.. I'm not getting into a top trumps debate on who gets dealt with respective of far right, far left, BLM, 2011 riots, Leeds because very much a subjective viewpoint and becomes more about whataboutery than condemnation if all who break the law which should be the common ground .. Yes there's historical wrongs that have not been dealt with properly be that abuse in the institutions that used to be looked up to over decades, church homes, orphanages, schools etc and I agree there were shameful decisions not made regarding the recent vile abuse in Rotherham etc but such cowardly inactions didn't start there.. On the perception that it's only the far right that are under the microscope at present, the number of terror plots failed in the last ten years or so has risen so the state simply can't let that go undeterred as they can't with other radical extremists and their actions that we've witnessed such as the IS etc.. It used to be it was mostly the PLO and PIRA with a bit of animal liberation but things have moved on.. If the opinions being shut down are the ones that break the law then again that's got to be a commonly held standard whomever they are.. If the state under whichever government comes down on other language or beliefs that don't break the law then yes fully agree that should be challenged funnily enough when groups like liberty and good law project do hold the government to account the uproar from some on the right is palpable but who else will do it.. " Voting conservative in this country is a dirty word, looked down upon, accusations of being a racist from some, supporting hatred, criminals etc etc. The country since the formation of the labour party has voted conservative more times than labour giving them 66% of the time in power since 1900. This indicates to me that as a country we are more right leaning than left. If the left are challenging the issues to the point it has become looked down upon to even suggest you would vote tory, it is inevitable we will end up exactly where we are now. Until we stop baiting the opposite sides and stop accepting piss poor journalism that aims to divide and conquer, nothing is going to change. There is a story about Trump holding a press conference to talk about the costs of every day items increasing on the BBC news site, take a look at the opening, it is poor, sets the scene of a story that is going to be biased, I have seen the story linked twice, for what reason? 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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? yes was sent to prison on some bullshit charge about exposing the names of a grooming gang if I remember good on the lad for doing that if it wasn’t for him we would never of heard about shit like that he was talking about it for years but funny enough they didn’t want to know No, he committed contempt of court by revealing details whilst the trial was ongoing, thus potentially providing a way for the defence to get the suspects off. I imagine that would then have caused a lot of unrest, which is definitely not what Tommy ‘gofundme’ Robinson wanted 🙄but the defence didn’t get them off we all know Tommy was banging on about the grooming gangs for years but the police ignored it if it wasn’t for Tommy wonder how many young girls would of still been abused if I’m right the police had the names of around 300 men but charged 11 I’m not saying he’s a saint but it can’t be ignored that it was him that brought this to the attention of the world No it didn't harm the defence in this case fortunately but does that make it OK? If I driving home d*unk and get stopped by the police outside my house, if I didn't have an accident an injure anyone should I not be arrested? exactly it didn’t but what it did was draw attention to the case so good on the lad don’t you agree They were literally on trial and there are laws preventing certain things being reported so as not to prejudice the outcome of the trial. There was no need to bring attention to it, especially not if that attention could cause the defendants to get off. Unless of course you want them to get off…" no need to bring attention to it lol without him we wouldn’t of even heard the term grooming gangs | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. I've said multiple times and agreed with you and you have also acknowledged when I've stated there are issues in society that affects all, housing, cost of living and yes for the umpteenth time the mess that is the current asylum system which successive governments have failed to grip and again the latter has criticism across all colours and cultures.. I'm not getting into a top trumps debate on who gets dealt with respective of far right, far left, BLM, 2011 riots, Leeds because very much a subjective viewpoint and becomes more about whataboutery than condemnation if all who break the law which should be the common ground .. Yes there's historical wrongs that have not been dealt with properly be that abuse in the institutions that used to be looked up to over decades, church homes, orphanages, schools etc and I agree there were shameful decisions not made regarding the recent vile abuse in Rotherham etc but such cowardly inactions didn't start there.. On the perception that it's only the far right that are under the microscope at present, the number of terror plots failed in the last ten years or so has risen so the state simply can't let that go undeterred as they can't with other radical extremists and their actions that we've witnessed such as the IS etc.. It used to be it was mostly the PLO and PIRA with a bit of animal liberation but things have moved on.. If the opinions being shut down are the ones that break the law then again that's got to be a commonly held standard whomever they are.. If the state under whichever government comes down on other language or beliefs that don't break the law then yes fully agree that should be challenged funnily enough when groups like liberty and good law project do hold the government to account the uproar from some on the right is palpable but who else will do it.. Voting conservative in this country is a dirty word, looked down upon, accusations of being a racist from some, supporting hatred, criminals etc etc. The country since the formation of the labour party has voted conservative more times than labour giving them 66% of the time in power since 1900. This indicates to me that as a country we are more right leaning than left. If the left are challenging the issues to the point it has become looked down upon to even suggest you would vote tory, it is inevitable we will end up exactly where we are now. Until we stop baiting the opposite sides and stop accepting piss poor journalism that aims to divide and conquer, nothing is going to change. There is a story about Trump holding a press conference to talk about the costs of every day items increasing on the BBC news site, take a look at the opening, it is poor, sets the scene of a story that is going to be biased, I have seen the story linked twice, for what reason? This is everything that is wrong, baiting and isolating individuals making them feel outliers. I hope that makes more sense "The media in the UK are predominantly right leaning, it’s very rare to have a left leaning media company. Even the Guardian and Mirror are centre left rather than properly left leaning. The problem the Tories have is that they have spent the last ten years pandering to their base, and their base is dying. There is little doubt that the Tories have shifted considerably to the right on social issues, and to a lesser extent economically. I don’t think it’s fair to say that all Tory voters are racist but it is accurate to say a lot of racists vote Tory. Until the Tories start to ask themselves why they appeal to racists they are not going to win back the centre ground they have lost. The problem the left/centre left have is that they allow the right wing media to set the narrative, everyone is too scared to talk about the benefits of immigration in case the Mail and Telegraph declare them traitors who want open borders. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. I've said multiple times and agreed with you and you have also acknowledged when I've stated there are issues in society that affects all, housing, cost of living and yes for the umpteenth time the mess that is the current asylum system which successive governments have failed to grip and again the latter has criticism across all colours and cultures.. I'm not getting into a top trumps debate on who gets dealt with respective of far right, far left, BLM, 2011 riots, Leeds because very much a subjective viewpoint and becomes more about whataboutery than condemnation if all who break the law which should be the common ground .. Yes there's historical wrongs that have not been dealt with properly be that abuse in the institutions that used to be looked up to over decades, church homes, orphanages, schools etc and I agree there were shameful decisions not made regarding the recent vile abuse in Rotherham etc but such cowardly inactions didn't start there.. On the perception that it's only the far right that are under the microscope at present, the number of terror plots failed in the last ten years or so has risen so the state simply can't let that go undeterred as they can't with other radical extremists and their actions that we've witnessed such as the IS etc.. It used to be it was mostly the PLO and PIRA with a bit of animal liberation but things have moved on.. If the opinions being shut down are the ones that break the law then again that's got to be a commonly held standard whomever they are.. If the state under whichever government comes down on other language or beliefs that don't break the law then yes fully agree that should be challenged funnily enough when groups like liberty and good law project do hold the government to account the uproar from some on the right is palpable but who else will do it.. Voting conservative in this country is a dirty word, looked down upon, accusations of being a racist from some, supporting hatred, criminals etc etc. The country since the formation of the labour party has voted conservative more times than labour giving them 66% of the time in power since 1900. This indicates to me that as a country we are more right leaning than left. If the left are challenging the issues to the point it has become looked down upon to even suggest you would vote tory, it is inevitable we will end up exactly where we are now. Until we stop baiting the opposite sides and stop accepting piss poor journalism that aims to divide and conquer, nothing is going to change. There is a story about Trump holding a press conference to talk about the costs of every day items increasing on the BBC news site, take a look at the opening, it is poor, sets the scene of a story that is going to be biased, I have seen the story linked twice, for what reason? This is everything that is wrong, baiting and isolating individuals making them feel outliers. I hope that makes more sense
The media in the UK are predominantly right leaning, it’s very rare to have a left leaning media company. Even the Guardian and Mirror are centre left rather than properly left leaning.
The problem the Tories have is that they have spent the last ten years pandering to their base, and their base is dying. There is little doubt that the Tories have shifted considerably to the right on social issues, and to a lesser extent economically. I don’t think it’s fair to say that all Tory voters are racist but it is accurate to say a lot of racists vote Tory. Until the Tories start to ask themselves why they appeal to racists they are not going to win back the centre ground they have lost.
The problem the left/centre left have is that they allow the right wing media to set the narrative, everyone is too scared to talk about the benefits of immigration in case the Mail and Telegraph declare them traitors who want open borders."we have different lenses here, but it is good to read your views clearly, it helps me understand why we can see things differently. If we start with the media, I personally think the media is far more inclined to be left of centre than right, but I think we can both agree there is no main stream far left or right outlets. The answer to that difference is probably because we both recognise the other side?? The Tories were in power twice as long as they should have been, this has caused an enormous amount of damage, and ironically it came about by opposites wanting the same thing at the expense of who they voted for. And that is another difference in our opinions, I can see as many people on the left as I can on the right that are concerned about illegal immigration, they are not racists, they have legitimate concerns. As for legal immigration, I fail to understand the issues that would make someone anti. There must be a clear requirement which is not being fulfilled locally, I have no idea what the issue is on that topic. lastly, racists and thugs are very easy to spot, I doubt anyone could ever mistake a racist for anything other than what they are, but we must also accept it is not a one way street, there are racists and thugs in all communities and that is not acceptable. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. " I think the left always try and shut down the right is when it comes down to mass imigration they don’t really have an answer same with illegal crossings so it’s much easier to shout the right down call them racists and hope they go away I said this years ago about brexit when you call ppl names who voted leave just remember a lot of them will of been your family and friends work colleagues ppl you know down your pub Ppl you mite disagree with politically may be closer than you think | |||
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" I said this years ago about brexit when you call ppl names who voted leave just remember a lot of them will of been your family and friends work colleagues ppl you know down your pub Ppl you mite disagree with politically may be closer than you think " This is a valid point, the internet has created change and we now have a paradigm shift in human interaction and behaviour. As a rule in person we are more tolerant and more willing to listen, especially to strangers. Social media has turned that upside down. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. I think the left always try and shut down the right is when it comes down to mass imigration they don’t really have an answer same with illegal crossings so it’s much easier to shout the right down call them racists and hope they go away I said this years ago about brexit when you call ppl names who voted leave just remember a lot of them will of been your family and friends work colleagues ppl you know down your pub Ppl you mite disagree with politically may be closer than you think " If someone does and says racist stuff then they are racist. It doesn’t matter if they go to the same pub as me, or if they work at the same place, they are still racists and I still want nothing to do with them. In addition, if people do or say racist stuff in my workplace they will be reported to HR. If they are a friend then they will be an ex friend because I don’t want to be friends with racists. If they are family members then I won’t engage with them. Racists don’t cease to be racists because of proximity. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. I think the left always try and shut down the right is when it comes down to mass imigration they don’t really have an answer same with illegal crossings so it’s much easier to shout the right down call them racists and hope they go away I said this years ago about brexit when you call ppl names who voted leave just remember a lot of them will of been your family and friends work colleagues ppl you know down your pub Ppl you mite disagree with politically may be closer than you think If someone does and says racist stuff then they are racist. It doesn’t matter if they go to the same pub as me, or if they work at the same place, they are still racists and I still want nothing to do with them. In addition, if people do or say racist stuff in my workplace they will be reported to HR. If they are a friend then they will be an ex friend because I don’t want to be friends with racists. If they are family members then I won’t engage with them. Racists don’t cease to be racists because of proximity." That wasn't what was being said. I read it as it is far easier to call someone a racist to close them down if they question illegal entry into the uk by small boats, or name calling because you voted a different way during brexit But many people they know from all walks of life have the same concerns, it is not always left and right and you can actually get on with people you might disagree with politically. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. I think the left always try and shut down the right is when it comes down to mass imigration they don’t really have an answer same with illegal crossings so it’s much easier to shout the right down call them racists and hope they go away I said this years ago about brexit when you call ppl names who voted leave just remember a lot of them will of been your family and friends work colleagues ppl you know down your pub Ppl you mite disagree with politically may be closer than you think If someone does and says racist stuff then they are racist. It doesn’t matter if they go to the same pub as me, or if they work at the same place, they are still racists and I still want nothing to do with them. In addition, if people do or say racist stuff in my workplace they will be reported to HR. If they are a friend then they will be an ex friend because I don’t want to be friends with racists. If they are family members then I won’t engage with them. Racists don’t cease to be racists because of proximity." pmsl yes we all feel that way but I was talking about the left and right and brexit btw racists exist on the left right centre and all political party’s its not exclusive to the right asmuch as that hurts some on here | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. I think the left always try and shut down the right is when it comes down to mass imigration they don’t really have an answer same with illegal crossings so it’s much easier to shout the right down call them racists and hope they go away I said this years ago about brexit when you call ppl names who voted leave just remember a lot of them will of been your family and friends work colleagues ppl you know down your pub Ppl you mite disagree with politically may be closer than you think If someone does and says racist stuff then they are racist. It doesn’t matter if they go to the same pub as me, or if they work at the same place, they are still racists and I still want nothing to do with them. In addition, if people do or say racist stuff in my workplace they will be reported to HR. If they are a friend then they will be an ex friend because I don’t want to be friends with racists. If they are family members then I won’t engage with them. Racists don’t cease to be racists because of proximity. That wasn't what was being said. I read it as it is far easier to call someone a racist to close them down if they question illegal entry into the uk by small boats, or name calling because you voted a different way during brexit But many people they know from all walks of life have the same concerns, it is not always left and right and you can actually get on with people you might disagree with politically. " thank you you said it much better than me | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. I think the left always try and shut down the right is when it comes down to mass imigration they don’t really have an answer same with illegal crossings so it’s much easier to shout the right down call them racists and hope they go away I said this years ago about brexit when you call ppl names who voted leave just remember a lot of them will of been your family and friends work colleagues ppl you know down your pub Ppl you mite disagree with politically may be closer than you think If someone does and says racist stuff then they are racist. It doesn’t matter if they go to the same pub as me, or if they work at the same place, they are still racists and I still want nothing to do with them. In addition, if people do or say racist stuff in my workplace they will be reported to HR. If they are a friend then they will be an ex friend because I don’t want to be friends with racists. If they are family members then I won’t engage with them. Racists don’t cease to be racists because of proximity. That wasn't what was being said. I read it as it is far easier to call someone a racist to close them down if they question illegal entry into the uk by small boats, or name calling because you voted a different way during brexit But many people they know from all walks of life have the same concerns, it is not always left and right and you can actually get on with people you might disagree with politically. " I’ve plenty of friends and family who vote differently to me, none of them are racists though. People aren’t racists because of how they voted on Brexit, or because they have concerns about immigration. Do you believe that’s why people think you are racist? | |||
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" The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. " To be fair, it's a left thing only now. Any ideology that has support of enough people uses these tactics. In the past, when religion was a major force in societies, it's exactly what the religious people did. Calling anyone who speaks against their views "sinners" and going on a witch-hunt after them. Those were the times when conservatives were against freedom of speech while the left was pro-freedom of speech. Now that religion has lost its influence and the progressives have enough people on their side, they are following the same tactics to suppress opinions which are immoral in their books. It's interesting how the tables have turned now - Conservatives are pro-free speech while the progressives are trying hard to suppress free-speech. | |||
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" The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. To be fair, it's a left thing only now. Any ideology that has support of enough people uses these tactics. In the past, when religion was a major force in societies, it's exactly what the religious people did. Calling anyone who speaks against their views "sinners" and going on a witch-hunt after them. Those were the times when conservatives were against freedom of speech while the left was pro-freedom of speech. Now that religion has lost its influence and the progressives have enough people on their side, they are following the same tactics to suppress opinions which are immoral in their books. It's interesting how the tables have turned now - Conservatives are pro-free speech while the progressives are trying hard to suppress free-speech." Your regular reminder that freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. I've said multiple times and agreed with you and you have also acknowledged when I've stated there are issues in society that affects all, housing, cost of living and yes for the umpteenth time the mess that is the current asylum system which successive governments have failed to grip and again the latter has criticism across all colours and cultures.. I'm not getting into a top trumps debate on who gets dealt with respective of far right, far left, BLM, 2011 riots, Leeds because very much a subjective viewpoint and becomes more about whataboutery than condemnation if all who break the law which should be the common ground .. Yes there's historical wrongs that have not been dealt with properly be that abuse in the institutions that used to be looked up to over decades, church homes, orphanages, schools etc and I agree there were shameful decisions not made regarding the recent vile abuse in Rotherham etc but such cowardly inactions didn't start there.. On the perception that it's only the far right that are under the microscope at present, the number of terror plots failed in the last ten years or so has risen so the state simply can't let that go undeterred as they can't with other radical extremists and their actions that we've witnessed such as the IS etc.. It used to be it was mostly the PLO and PIRA with a bit of animal liberation but things have moved on.. If the opinions being shut down are the ones that break the law then again that's got to be a commonly held standard whomever they are.. If the state under whichever government comes down on other language or beliefs that don't break the law then yes fully agree that should be challenged funnily enough when groups like liberty and good law project do hold the government to account the uproar from some on the right is palpable but who else will do it.. Voting conservative in this country is a dirty word, looked down upon, accusations of being a racist from some, supporting hatred, criminals etc etc. The country since the formation of the labour party has voted conservative more times than labour giving them 66% of the time in power since 1900. This indicates to me that as a country we are more right leaning than left. If the left are challenging the issues to the point it has become looked down upon to even suggest you would vote tory, it is inevitable we will end up exactly where we are now. Until we stop baiting the opposite sides and stop accepting piss poor journalism that aims to divide and conquer, nothing is going to change. There is a story about Trump holding a press conference to talk about the costs of every day items increasing on the BBC news site, take a look at the opening, it is poor, sets the scene of a story that is going to be biased, I have seen the story linked twice, for what reason? This is everything that is wrong, baiting and isolating individuals making them feel outliers. I hope that makes more sense "I'm not sure it adds anything to the issues you raised and I commented on but as ever I respect your opinion even when we don't agree.. | |||
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" The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. To be fair, it's a left thing only now. Any ideology that has support of enough people uses these tactics. In the past, when religion was a major force in societies, it's exactly what the religious people did. Calling anyone who speaks against their views "sinners" and going on a witch-hunt after them. Those were the times when conservatives were against freedom of speech while the left was pro-freedom of speech. Now that religion has lost its influence and the progressives have enough people on their side, they are following the same tactics to suppress opinions which are immoral in their books. It's interesting how the tables have turned now - Conservatives are pro-free speech while the progressives are trying hard to suppress free-speech. Your regular reminder that freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence. " And your regular reminder that it's not freedom if a legal action can be taken against you. So freedom of speech means freedom from legal consequences. I don't know who invented this idiotic and meaningless slogan "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequence". Everything we do has consequences and we all know that already. | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? " yeah and most have started or progressed from speaking out about things polititions dont want to hear or have to deal with | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. I've said multiple times and agreed with you and you have also acknowledged when I've stated there are issues in society that affects all, housing, cost of living and yes for the umpteenth time the mess that is the current asylum system which successive governments have failed to grip and again the latter has criticism across all colours and cultures.. I'm not getting into a top trumps debate on who gets dealt with respective of far right, far left, BLM, 2011 riots, Leeds because very much a subjective viewpoint and becomes more about whataboutery than condemnation if all who break the law which should be the common ground .. Yes there's historical wrongs that have not been dealt with properly be that abuse in the institutions that used to be looked up to over decades, church homes, orphanages, schools etc and I agree there were shameful decisions not made regarding the recent vile abuse in Rotherham etc but such cowardly inactions didn't start there.. On the perception that it's only the far right that are under the microscope at present, the number of terror plots failed in the last ten years or so has risen so the state simply can't let that go undeterred as they can't with other radical extremists and their actions that we've witnessed such as the IS etc.. It used to be it was mostly the PLO and PIRA with a bit of animal liberation but things have moved on.. If the opinions being shut down are the ones that break the law then again that's got to be a commonly held standard whomever they are.. If the state under whichever government comes down on other language or beliefs that don't break the law then yes fully agree that should be challenged funnily enough when groups like liberty and good law project do hold the government to account the uproar from some on the right is palpable but who else will do it.. Voting conservative in this country is a dirty word, looked down upon, accusations of being a racist from some, supporting hatred, criminals etc etc. The country since the formation of the labour party has voted conservative more times than labour giving them 66% of the time in power since 1900. This indicates to me that as a country we are more right leaning than left. If the left are challenging the issues to the point it has become looked down upon to even suggest you would vote tory, it is inevitable we will end up exactly where we are now. Until we stop baiting the opposite sides and stop accepting piss poor journalism that aims to divide and conquer, nothing is going to change. There is a story about Trump holding a press conference to talk about the costs of every day items increasing on the BBC news site, take a look at the opening, it is poor, sets the scene of a story that is going to be biased, I have seen the story linked twice, for what reason? This is everything that is wrong, baiting and isolating individuals making them feel outliers. I hope that makes more sense
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"Do you believe that’s why people think you are racist?" I have deleted a couple of posts before this one. What do you mean with the above? | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? yeah and most have started or progressed from speaking out about things polititions dont want to hear or have to deal with" Er no £640,000 mortgage fraud 4 cases illegally using someone else’s passports | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. I think the left always try and shut down the right is when it comes down to mass imigration they don’t really have an answer same with illegal crossings so it’s much easier to shout the right down call them racists and hope they go away I said this years ago about brexit when you call ppl names who voted leave just remember a lot of them will of been your family and friends work colleagues ppl you know down your pub Ppl you mite disagree with politically may be closer than you think If someone does and says racist stuff then they are racist. It doesn’t matter if they go to the same pub as me, or if they work at the same place, they are still racists and I still want nothing to do with them. In addition, if people do or say racist stuff in my workplace they will be reported to HR. If they are a friend then they will be an ex friend because I don’t want to be friends with racists. If they are family members then I won’t engage with them. Racists don’t cease to be racists because of proximity. That wasn't what was being said. I read it as it is far easier to call someone a racist to close them down if they question illegal entry into the uk by small boats, or name calling because you voted a different way during brexit But many people they know from all walks of life have the same concerns, it is not always left and right and you can actually get on with people you might disagree with politically. I’ve plenty of friends and family who vote differently to me, none of them are racists though. People aren’t racists because of how they voted on Brexit, or because they have concerns about immigration. Do you believe that’s why people think you are racist?" I don’t think anyone I know think I’m racist I duno how they could possibly think that tbh and I agree been saying it for years ppl definitely are not racist because of concerns about immigration or brexit lol | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? yeah and most have started or progressed from speaking out about things polititions dont want to hear or have to deal with" WHAAAAA https://bridge.georgetown.edu/research/factsheet-tommy-robinson/ | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. TWe're facing a problem today where we seem to be clamping down on the far right at every opportunity, viewing them as the villains who must be stopped at all costs. While most people wouldn’t disagree with challenging extremist views, the approach is becoming unbalanced. This imbalance alienates those with legitimate concerns, making them feel like outsiders. To be clear, I'm not talking about supporting racism or advocating violence. I'm referring to people who have genuine worries about issues like small boat crossings, the effectiveness of policies that create isolated communities, or the strain on housing and infrastructure. These are legitimate concerns for those who see the impact in their local areas. However, when these concerns are dismissed, watered down, or labelled as racist, it pushes people towards groups they feel more aligned with, which if said often enough they will believe is the far right. The left’s continuous attempts to shut down opinions they disagree with are backfiring, disenfranchising people and making them afraid to express their views for fear of being labelled as far right, when mostly they are not. I think the left always try and shut down the right is when it comes down to mass imigration they don’t really have an answer same with illegal crossings so it’s much easier to shout the right down call them racists and hope they go away I said this years ago about brexit when you call ppl names who voted leave just remember a lot of them will of been your family and friends work colleagues ppl you know down your pub Ppl you mite disagree with politically may be closer than you think If someone does and says racist stuff then they are racist. It doesn’t matter if they go to the same pub as me, or if they work at the same place, they are still racists and I still want nothing to do with them. In addition, if people do or say racist stuff in my workplace they will be reported to HR. If they are a friend then they will be an ex friend because I don’t want to be friends with racists. If they are family members then I won’t engage with them. Racists don’t cease to be racists because of proximity. That wasn't what was being said. I read it as it is far easier to call someone a racist to close them down if they question illegal entry into the uk by small boats, or name calling because you voted a different way during brexit But many people they know from all walks of life have the same concerns, it is not always left and right and you can actually get on with people you might disagree with politically. I’ve plenty of friends and family who vote differently to me, none of them are racists though. People aren’t racists because of how they voted on Brexit, or because they have concerns about immigration. Do you believe that’s why people think you are racist?I don’t think anyone I know think I’m racist I duno how they could possibly think that tbh and I agree been saying it for years ppl definitely are not racist because of concerns about immigration or brexit lol" Ah ok, it just sounded like you were saying people thought you were racist because you voted for Brexit and had ‘legitimate concerns’ about refugees. | |||
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"Well as An Irish citizen yaxley lemon can take advantage of the common travel area and move between the UK and the Irish Republic freely having recently been detained at Canadian immigration and sent home to where ?" He entitle to be Duel citizenship his right from both backgrounds | |||
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" He entitle to be Duel citizenship his right from both backgrounds " But he lied in the passport saying he was born in Ireland. He was born in Luton. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. I don’t know maybe but iv never seen him come across as religious id say he knows more about Islam than he does the church I hope ppl do protest outside that church but I’m not as outraged over that as I am about the grooming gangs because I don’t think a dirty perve of a priest is as important by the numbers and the fact he won’t of discriminated over his victims by race of colour only my opinion Surely wrong is wrong..? Or is it only when it's people that don't look like us the majority because that's certainly how it appears he thinks.. " Possibly because one is an individual & the other is a culture that breeds extreme followers? I watched his Silenced film. His percentage calculation of perpetrators in the Telford case turned my stomach tbh. Basically it boiled down to about one in four of the males in Telford being involved. He could be 50% out & it would still turn my stomach. S | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. I don’t know maybe but iv never seen him come across as religious id say he knows more about Islam than he does the church I hope ppl do protest outside that church but I’m not as outraged over that as I am about the grooming gangs because I don’t think a dirty perve of a priest is as important by the numbers and the fact he won’t of discriminated over his victims by race of colour only my opinion Surely wrong is wrong..? Or is it only when it's people that don't look like us the majority because that's certainly how it appears he thinks.. Possibly because one is an individual & the other is a culture that breeds extreme followers? I watched his Silenced film. His percentage calculation of perpetrators in the Telford case turned my stomach tbh. Basically it boiled down to about one in four of the males in Telford being involved. He could be 50% out & it would still turn my stomach. S" He's a proven liar and will do so to provoke hatred so whilst I fully agree even one is too many he literally is not someone whose word can be taken with any credibility.. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. I don’t know maybe but iv never seen him come across as religious id say he knows more about Islam than he does the church I hope ppl do protest outside that church but I’m not as outraged over that as I am about the grooming gangs because I don’t think a dirty perve of a priest is as important by the numbers and the fact he won’t of discriminated over his victims by race of colour only my opinion Surely wrong is wrong..? Or is it only when it's people that don't look like us the majority because that's certainly how it appears he thinks.. Possibly because one is an individual & the other is a culture that breeds extreme followers? I watched his Silenced film. His percentage calculation of perpetrators in the Telford case turned my stomach tbh. Basically it boiled down to about one in four of the males in Telford being involved. He could be 50% out & it would still turn my stomach. S He's a proven liar and will do so to provoke hatred so whilst I fully agree even one is too many he literally is not someone whose word can be taken with any credibility.." Luckily for you an independent inquiry found that grooming went on for generations and there were over 1000 victims. It's difficult to call him a liar when others (that you probably accept the word of) agree with him. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. I don’t know maybe but iv never seen him come across as religious id say he knows more about Islam than he does the church I hope ppl do protest outside that church but I’m not as outraged over that as I am about the grooming gangs because I don’t think a dirty perve of a priest is as important by the numbers and the fact he won’t of discriminated over his victims by race of colour only my opinion Surely wrong is wrong..? Or is it only when it's people that don't look like us the majority because that's certainly how it appears he thinks.. Possibly because one is an individual & the other is a culture that breeds extreme followers? I watched his Silenced film. His percentage calculation of perpetrators in the Telford case turned my stomach tbh. Basically it boiled down to about one in four of the males in Telford being involved. He could be 50% out & it would still turn my stomach. S He's a proven liar and will do so to provoke hatred so whilst I fully agree even one is too many he literally is not someone whose word can be taken with any credibility.. Luckily for you an independent inquiry found that grooming went on for generations and there were over 1000 victims. It's difficult to call him a liar when others (that you probably accept the word of) agree with him. " As I've said one is too many but no matter how many times people punt his libelous film I've no intention whatsoever of watching it.. The really sad thing is as you well know is that awful statistic you quote could also apply to several of the once trusted institutions in the country going back several decades.. It's really not difficult to call someone a liar who has a proven track record and who will continue to do so purely to spread hatred .. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. I don’t know maybe but iv never seen him come across as religious id say he knows more about Islam than he does the church I hope ppl do protest outside that church but I’m not as outraged over that as I am about the grooming gangs because I don’t think a dirty perve of a priest is as important by the numbers and the fact he won’t of discriminated over his victims by race of colour only my opinion Surely wrong is wrong..? Or is it only when it's people that don't look like us the majority because that's certainly how it appears he thinks.. Possibly because one is an individual & the other is a culture that breeds extreme followers? I watched his Silenced film. His percentage calculation of perpetrators in the Telford case turned my stomach tbh. Basically it boiled down to about one in four of the males in Telford being involved. He could be 50% out & it would still turn my stomach. S He's a proven liar and will do so to provoke hatred so whilst I fully agree even one is too many he literally is not someone whose word can be taken with any credibility.. Luckily for you an independent inquiry found that grooming went on for generations and there were over 1000 victims. It's difficult to call him a liar when others (that you probably accept the word of) agree with him. As I've said one is too many but no matter how many times people punt his libelous film I've no intention whatsoever of watching it.. The really sad thing is as you well know is that awful statistic you quote could also apply to several of the once trusted institutions in the country going back several decades.. It's really not difficult to call someone a liar who has a proven track record and who will continue to do so purely to spread hatred .. " Libellous? As I've said, that statistic came from an independent enquiry. If you don't want to watch his film at least check out the enquiry. | |||
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" He entitle to be Duel citizenship his right from both backgrounds But he lied in the passport saying he was born in Ireland. He was born in Luton. " Suppose but if one side of his heritage is of an other country he still entitle to a passport of that nation but suppose if he lied about where he was born then probably would have his Irish passport revoked | |||
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" He entitle to be Duel citizenship his right from both backgrounds But he lied in the passport saying he was born in Ireland. He was born in Luton. Suppose but if one side of his heritage is of an other country he still entitle to a passport of that nation but suppose if he lied about where he was born then probably would have his Irish passport revoked " No one knows he lied. The Canadian Authorities said he was born in Ireland. There's been nothing else said. | |||
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" He entitle to be Duel citizenship his right from both backgrounds But he lied in the passport saying he was born in Ireland. He was born in Luton. Suppose but if one side of his heritage is of an other country he still entitle to a passport of that nation but suppose if he lied about where he was born then probably would have his Irish passport revoked No one knows he lied. The Canadian Authorities said he was born in Ireland. There's been nothing else said. " Right 👍👍 | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. I don’t know maybe but iv never seen him come across as religious id say he knows more about Islam than he does the church I hope ppl do protest outside that church but I’m not as outraged over that as I am about the grooming gangs because I don’t think a dirty perve of a priest is as important by the numbers and the fact he won’t of discriminated over his victims by race of colour only my opinion Surely wrong is wrong..? Or is it only when it's people that don't look like us the majority because that's certainly how it appears he thinks.. Possibly because one is an individual & the other is a culture that breeds extreme followers? I watched his Silenced film. His percentage calculation of perpetrators in the Telford case turned my stomach tbh. Basically it boiled down to about one in four of the males in Telford being involved. He could be 50% out & it would still turn my stomach. S He's a proven liar and will do so to provoke hatred so whilst I fully agree even one is too many he literally is not someone whose word can be taken with any credibility.. Luckily for you an independent inquiry found that grooming went on for generations and there were over 1000 victims. It's difficult to call him a liar when others (that you probably accept the word of) agree with him. As I've said one is too many but no matter how many times people punt his libelous film I've no intention whatsoever of watching it.. The really sad thing is as you well know is that awful statistic you quote could also apply to several of the once trusted institutions in the country going back several decades.. It's really not difficult to call someone a liar who has a proven track record and who will continue to do so purely to spread hatred .. Libellous? As I've said, that statistic came from an independent enquiry. If you don't want to watch his film at least check out the enquiry. " The film given he lost the case just repeats the libel.. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. I don’t know maybe but iv never seen him come across as religious id say he knows more about Islam than he does the church I hope ppl do protest outside that church but I’m not as outraged over that as I am about the grooming gangs because I don’t think a dirty perve of a priest is as important by the numbers and the fact he won’t of discriminated over his victims by race of colour only my opinion Surely wrong is wrong..? Or is it only when it's people that don't look like us the majority because that's certainly how it appears he thinks.. Possibly because one is an individual & the other is a culture that breeds extreme followers? I watched his Silenced film. His percentage calculation of perpetrators in the Telford case turned my stomach tbh. Basically it boiled down to about one in four of the males in Telford being involved. He could be 50% out & it would still turn my stomach. S He's a proven liar and will do so to provoke hatred so whilst I fully agree even one is too many he literally is not someone whose word can be taken with any credibility.. Luckily for you an independent inquiry found that grooming went on for generations and there were over 1000 victims. It's difficult to call him a liar when others (that you probably accept the word of) agree with him. As I've said one is too many but no matter how many times people punt his libelous film I've no intention whatsoever of watching it.. The really sad thing is as you well know is that awful statistic you quote could also apply to several of the once trusted institutions in the country going back several decades.. It's really not difficult to call someone a liar who has a proven track record and who will continue to do so purely to spread hatred .. Libellous? As I've said, that statistic came from an independent enquiry. If you don't want to watch his film at least check out the enquiry. The film given he lost the case just repeats the libel.. " I didn't realise there was a case of libel reating to Telford. I think we've confused the 2. Silenced is about the 2 kids. The R*pe Of Britain is about Telford. | |||
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"Tommy gets clicks, things thrown bricks.. Sounds a tad clichéd I know but there seems to be a cyclical thing with his social media posts that seem to mostly cause unrest and social disorder possibly incitement and his numbers if followers on certain platforms desperate for more users.. Well his daily posts from Cyprus (working even on annual leave!) gave locations of various asylum seeker hotels and for some reason dates to go with them. It was followed by discouraging any violence. Don't know if that will wash??? I don't use many of the sites but was aware yes, I said on here after he posted the security guard is a hero was a deflection and backtracking after his initial post saying the guy looked 'eastern European' and after the post about the Stirling stabbing .. Pretty much agree that the precedents have been set whereby people have been rightly jailed for racially motivated incitement etc and he if he comes back might also be..aw he will be jailed and they will put him where he will get seriously harmed like they tried last time the government can’t have ppl like him expressing an opinion I watched his interview with Jordan Peterson that was a big eye opener unlike a lot on here I like to see two sides There are always two sides yes but the solution to a particular issue in society is not what he stands for..doesn’t he just want imigration sowed to a more manageable amount and radical islam gone from U.K. ? Isn’t that what a lot of the working class want aswell or is that racist That's what he claims and hides behind because it's a common issue of policy mismanagement by successive governments and it's not just a 'one colour' issue it's shared by many across all social classes.. And no one wants extremists whatever they use as an excuse or piggy back their cause upon but the answer is not a race war that sone of his supporters evidently think is the answer.. And which he does nothing to dissuade the minority from.. Hate is hate being it anjem choudary rightly banged up or fuckwits trying to torch or inciting others to blow up mosques .. I suspect he won't be telling anyone to protest at Blackburn cathedral over the recent issue of historical sex abuse in that diocese will he.. I don’t know maybe but iv never seen him come across as religious id say he knows more about Islam than he does the church I hope ppl do protest outside that church but I’m not as outraged over that as I am about the grooming gangs because I don’t think a dirty perve of a priest is as important by the numbers and the fact he won’t of discriminated over his victims by race of colour only my opinion Surely wrong is wrong..? Or is it only when it's people that don't look like us the majority because that's certainly how it appears he thinks.. Possibly because one is an individual & the other is a culture that breeds extreme followers? I watched his Silenced film. His percentage calculation of perpetrators in the Telford case turned my stomach tbh. Basically it boiled down to about one in four of the males in Telford being involved. He could be 50% out & it would still turn my stomach. S He's a proven liar and will do so to provoke hatred so whilst I fully agree even one is too many he literally is not someone whose word can be taken with any credibility.. Luckily for you an independent inquiry found that grooming went on for generations and there were over 1000 victims. It's difficult to call him a liar when others (that you probably accept the word of) agree with him. As I've said one is too many but no matter how many times people punt his libelous film I've no intention whatsoever of watching it.. The really sad thing is as you well know is that awful statistic you quote could also apply to several of the once trusted institutions in the country going back several decades.. It's really not difficult to call someone a liar who has a proven track record and who will continue to do so purely to spread hatred .. Libellous? As I've said, that statistic came from an independent enquiry. If you don't want to watch his film at least check out the enquiry. The film given he lost the case just repeats the libel.. I didn't realise there was a case of libel reating to Telford. I think we've confused the 2. Silenced is about the 2 kids. The R*pe Of Britain is about Telford. " I think we have.. Cheers for the update.. Will leave it there..  | |||
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" He entitle to be Duel citizenship his right from both backgrounds But he lied in the passport saying he was born in Ireland. He was born in Luton. Suppose but if one side of his heritage is of an other country he still entitle to a passport of that nation but suppose if he lied about where he was born then probably would have his Irish passport revoked No one knows he lied. The Canadian Authorities said he was born in Ireland. There's been nothing else said. " and if he did so what who as never lied on here ? | |||
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" and if he did so what who as never lied on here ?" You can be sent to prison and fined for lying on a passport application | |||
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" and if he did so what who as never lied on here ? You can be sent to prison and fined for lying on a passport application" The way things are at the minute that would be a life sentence for TR, with no chance of early release. | |||
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" and if he did so what who as never lied on here ? You can be sent to prison and fined for lying on a passport application The way things are at the minute that would be a life sentence for TR, with no chance of early release. " Poor Tommy, are you going to be contributing to his inevitable crowdfunded legal costs? | |||
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" and if he did so what who as never lied on here ? You can be sent to prison and fined for lying on a passport application The way things are at the minute that would be a life sentence for TR, with no chance of early release. Poor Tommy, are you going to be contributing to his inevitable crowdfunded legal costs?" I will match you £ for £ 😂 | |||
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" and if he did so what who as never lied on here ? You can be sent to prison and fined for lying on a passport application" realy thanx for the education lol he will go to prison it’s how they silence ppl now | |||
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" and if he did so what who as never lied on here ? You can be sent to prison and fined for lying on a passport applicationrealy thanx for the education lol he will go to prison it’s how they silence ppl now " If he goes to prison it will be because he’s broken the law. Maybe he’ll shut up because people do tend to talk less when they’re not off their tits on Colombian marching powder. | |||
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" and if he did so what who as never lied on here ? You can be sent to prison and fined for lying on a passport applicationrealy thanx for the education lol he will go to prison it’s how they silence ppl now If he goes to prison it will be because he’s broken the law. Maybe he’ll shut up because people do tend to talk less when they’re not off their tits on Colombian marching powder." sounds like you know all about that then personally iv never touched the stuff but each to there own explains a lot now lol | |||
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" and if he did so what who as never lied on here ? You can be sent to prison and fined for lying on a passport applicationrealy thanx for the education lol he will go to prison it’s how they silence ppl now If he goes to prison it will be because he’s broken the law. Maybe he’ll shut up because people do tend to talk less when they’re not off their tits on Colombian marching powder.sounds like you know all about that then personally iv never touched the stuff but each to there own explains a lot now lol" That’s the first time I’ve ever associated cocaine with punctuation. | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? yeah and most have started or progressed from speaking out about things polititions dont want to hear or have to deal with" Serious question, where did you get that information from and what made you believe it? Social media, mainstream media, gossip? I'm generally interested to find out where misunderstandings come from | |||
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" and if he did so what who as never lied on here ? You can be sent to prison and fined for lying on a passport applicationrealy thanx for the education lol he will go to prison it’s how they silence ppl now If he goes to prison it will be because he’s broken the law. Maybe he’ll shut up because people do tend to talk less when they’re not off their tits on Colombian marching powder.sounds like you know all about that then personally iv never touched the stuff but each to there own explains a lot now lol That’s the first time I’ve ever associated cocaine with punctuation." Varies on person to person, some people when they take chang, get paranoid, edgy, clam up and don't speak. Depends on how the dopamine receptor in your brain reacts to the overload | |||
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" and if he did so what who as never lied on here ? You can be sent to prison and fined for lying on a passport applicationrealy thanx for the education lol he will go to prison it’s how they silence ppl now If he goes to prison it will be because he’s broken the law. Maybe he’ll shut up because people do tend to talk less when they’re not off their tits on Colombian marching powder.sounds like you know all about that then personally iv never touched the stuff but each to there own explains a lot now lol That’s the first time I’ve ever associated cocaine with punctuation." good for you well iv never associated with cocaine but crack on enjoy | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin " 3thingsvif they are scared of what you are saying they will find a way to shut you up anyway they can | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin 3thingsvif they are scared of what you are saying they will find a way to shut you up anyway they can " Or to put it another way, if you are found guilty of a crime you will face the consequences. Or is this a conspiracy by the HRMC? | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin 3thingsvif they are scared of what you are saying they will find a way to shut you up anyway they can Or to put it another way, if you are found guilty of a crime you will face the consequences. Or is this a conspiracy by the HRMC?" I agree funny how they are targeting him now tho wonder why that is | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin 3thingsvif they are scared of what you are saying they will find a way to shut you up anyway they can Or to put it another way, if you are found guilty of a crime you will face the consequences. Or is this a conspiracy by the HRMC?I agree funny how they are targeting him now tho wonder why that is " Well actually they began looking in to it when he dissolved the companies and.... Forget it I need to debate with people than have an IQ closer to mine. I'm not going to win anything here | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin 3thingsvif they are scared of what you are saying they will find a way to shut you up anyway they can Or to put it another way, if you are found guilty of a crime you will face the consequences. Or is this a conspiracy by the HRMC?I agree funny how they are targeting him now tho wonder why that is Well actually they began looking in to it when he dissolved the companies and.... Forget it I need to debate with people than have an IQ closer to mine. I'm not going to win anything here" and there ya go an insult well done you lol | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin 3thingsvif they are scared of what you are saying they will find a way to shut you up anyway they can Or to put it another way, if you are found guilty of a crime you will face the consequences. Or is this a conspiracy by the HRMC?I agree funny how they are targeting him now tho wonder why that is Well actually they began looking in to it when he dissolved the companies and.... Forget it I need to debate with people than have an IQ closer to mine. I'm not going to win anything hereand there ya go an insult well done you lol" Well I'm not going to win anything here, that's more of a fact | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin 3thingsvif they are scared of what you are saying they will find a way to shut you up anyway they can Or to put it another way, if you are found guilty of a crime you will face the consequences. Or is this a conspiracy by the HRMC?I agree funny how they are targeting him now tho wonder why that is Well actually they began looking in to it when he dissolved the companies and.... Forget it I need to debate with people than have an IQ closer to mine. I'm not going to win anything hereand there ya go an insult well done you lol Well I'm not going to win anything here, that's more of a fact" isnt this a debate why do you have to win ?wrong forum if you don’t want to here diffrent opinions mate | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? " Useing fear to silence people that's how corrupt useless politicians try to hang on to power the same things went on during Covid the moment people questioned the vaccines they were branded lunatics and conspiracy theorists to silence them | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? Useing fear to silence people that's how corrupt useless politicians try to hang on to power the same things went on during Covid the moment people questioned the vaccines they were branded lunatics and conspiracy theorists to silence them " exactly and now we know more about the vaccines where are the politicians now very quiet on the subject | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin 3thingsvif they are scared of what you are saying they will find a way to shut you up anyway they can Or to put it another way, if you are found guilty of a crime you will face the consequences. Or is this a conspiracy by the HRMC?I agree funny how they are targeting him now tho wonder why that is Well actually they began looking in to it when he dissolved the companies and.... Forget it I need to debate with people than have an IQ closer to mine. I'm not going to win anything hereand there ya go an insult well done you lol Well I'm not going to win anything here, that's more of a factisnt this a debate why do you have to win ?wrong forum if you don’t want to here diffrent opinions mate " Ok let me apologise and get things back on track. Do you believe this mornings story from the times that the HRMC are just doing their job or that it's being done to silence TR | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin " Con man not as clever as he thinks he is, shock! | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin Con man not as clever as he thinks he is, shock!" He only has to be cleverer than the people that send him money | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin 3thingsvif they are scared of what you are saying they will find a way to shut you up anyway they can Or to put it another way, if you are found guilty of a crime you will face the consequences. Or is this a conspiracy by the HRMC?I agree funny how they are targeting him now tho wonder why that is Well actually they began looking in to it when he dissolved the companies and.... Forget it I need to debate with people than have an IQ closer to mine. I'm not going to win anything here" If he wasn’t allowed to be company director, how did he dissolve the businesses? | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin 3thingsvif they are scared of what you are saying they will find a way to shut you up anyway they can Or to put it another way, if you are found guilty of a crime you will face the consequences. Or is this a conspiracy by the HRMC?I agree funny how they are targeting him now tho wonder why that is Well actually they began looking in to it when he dissolved the companies and.... Forget it I need to debate with people than have an IQ closer to mine. I'm not going to win anything here If he wasn’t allowed to be company director, how did he dissolve the businesses? " Ok obviously the company directors did that which makes them accountable too | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin 3thingsvif they are scared of what you are saying they will find a way to shut you up anyway they can Or to put it another way, if you are found guilty of a crime you will face the consequences. Or is this a conspiracy by the HRMC?I agree funny how they are targeting him now tho wonder why that is Well actually they began looking in to it when he dissolved the companies and.... Forget it I need to debate with people than have an IQ closer to mine. I'm not going to win anything here If he wasn’t allowed to be company director, how did he dissolve the businesses? Ok obviously the company directors did that which makes them accountable too" It would be interesting to know how they’ve linked him to a company that has no direct link to him, and if they have I would have thought it would be a criminal investigation to begin with. It’s all very strange | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? " Seems like you have a beef with someone standing up for the common man. I don't see many others doing that and when they do they're labelled far right thugs. So I suppose that makes me far right because being a concerned parent raising a child in this fucked up world of corruption and danger is somehow wrong? But yeah, I'll be sure to take note of a small group of horny individuals using a glorified soliciting platform | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin 3thingsvif they are scared of what you are saying they will find a way to shut you up anyway they can Or to put it another way, if you are found guilty of a crime you will face the consequences. Or is this a conspiracy by the HRMC?I agree funny how they are targeting him now tho wonder why that is Well actually they began looking in to it when he dissolved the companies and.... Forget it I need to debate with people than have an IQ closer to mine. I'm not going to win anything here If he wasn’t allowed to be company director, how did he dissolve the businesses? Ok obviously the company directors did that which makes them accountable too It would be interesting to know how they’ve linked him to a company that has no direct link to him, and if they have I would have thought it would be a criminal investigation to begin with. It’s all very strange " I'm sure the HRMC have a lot more info than what was in the times. I'm sure if anything comes of it we'll find out | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? Seems like you have a beef with someone standing up for the common man. I don't see many others doing that and when they do they're labelled far right thugs. So I suppose that makes me far right because being a concerned parent raising a child in this fucked up world of corruption and danger is somehow wrong? But yeah, I'll be sure to take note of a small group of horny individuals using a glorified soliciting platform " So taking money from people so he can pay for his lifestyle in marbella is standing up for the common man? | |||
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" Forget it I need to debate with people than have an IQ closer to mine. I'm not going to win anything here" You probably meant "that" (have an IQ), and "than" was a typo. In which case, perhaps "who" would be a more correct choice of words (presuming that you meant people and not objects). You missed a comma after "forget it" and do you really mean to say that you "need" to debate with people with an IQ closer to yours or is there, perhaps, a more precise way in which to phrase that, which achieves the nuance you aim to communicate? Maybe people are simply confused by your writing style? What are you expecting to win (here) and why?  | |||
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" Forget it I need to debate with people than have an IQ closer to mine. I'm not going to win anything here You probably meant "that" (have an IQ), and "than" was a typo. In which case, perhaps "who" would be a more correct choice of words (presuming that you meant people and not objects). You missed a comma after "forget it" and do you really mean to say that you "need" to debate with people with an IQ closer to yours or is there, perhaps, a more precise way in which to phrase that, which achieves the nuance you aim to communicate? Maybe people are simply confused by your writing style? What are you expecting to win (here) and why? "Thanks for grammar and spelling correction. I'd be happy with anyone with an IQ of 90 or above. Shouldn't expect to win anything and that's on me. I keep getting drawn into things despite telling myself not to. Shouldn't have taken the summer off work! | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin 3thingsvif they are scared of what you are saying they will find a way to shut you up anyway they can Or to put it another way, if you are found guilty of a crime you will face the consequences. Or is this a conspiracy by the HRMC?I agree funny how they are targeting him now tho wonder why that is Well actually they began looking in to it when he dissolved the companies and.... Forget it I need to debate with people than have an IQ closer to mine. I'm not going to win anything here If he wasn’t allowed to be company director, how did he dissolve the businesses? " This is just from the company Tommy Robinson Inc which folded in 2018. He has or has had around another 6 or 7 compainies that have folded or are still going under different company directors. Don't have all the facts on them but I'm sure with enough digging I get them. From behind the times paywall Tommy Robinson Inc ‘made £1.6m’ without paying tax — then folded New August 14 The far-right leader and his associates have created a web of secretive companies that have made profits before filing for insolvency, according to filings Tommy Robinson and his associates have created a web of secretive companies which have made profits of more than £1.6 million without paying tax before filing for insolvency, according to corporate filings. The far-right leader has spent six years conducting his anti-migrant activism and fundraising through entities whose directors have failed to file annual accounts on a single occasion. The companies owe £328,000 in corporation tax and employer contributions to HMRC, documents state. Any director who fails to file accounts is committing a criminal offence, is at risk of an prosecution and may have to declare a conviction when travelling overseas. They also face having their company forcibly dissolved and having any assets handed to the Crown. However, Robinson and those close to him have never been subject to any enforcement action. They have instead taken matters into their own hands by appointing an insolvency practitioner to wind up the companies at the 11th hour. In each instance, they have appointed Ninos Koumettou, a British-Cypriot community leader, his son, Yiannis, who was recently fined £10,000 for unrelated regulatory failures, or both. The pair are chartered accountants based in London and partners at Begbies Traynor, a professional services firm with revenue of £120 million a year and offices around the world. Their work with Robinson, real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, 41, started in November 2018. That month, he met Ninos Koumettou, 71, face-to-face in connection with the liquidation of a company of which he was director: Lennon Consultancy. | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? Seems like you have a beef with someone standing up for the common man. I don't see many others doing that and when they do they're labelled far right thugs. So I suppose that makes me far right because being a concerned parent raising a child in this fucked up world of corruption and danger is somehow wrong? But yeah, I'll be sure to take note of a small group of horny individuals using a glorified soliciting platform So taking money from people so he can pay for his lifestyle in marbella is standing up for the common man?" Standing up for the common man? There have always been people standing up for the "common man" Not sure if you are familier with the history of the troubles in Belfast? Well I grew up in them and as the catholics started getting housing and jobs and were taking over the protestants feel like they were losing their country and their identity. They needed someone to stand up for the "common man" Enter Reverend Ian Paisley who gave his first sermon at age 16 in a Presbyterian church (very hellfire and brimstone) However Presbyterian wasn't extreme enough so he formed the Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster were the woman were made to wear headscarfs at his churches (wonder why) he preached hate against catholoics and gay people. Well he was representing the "common man" and his church collection boxes were always full He encourged his supporters to riot, drag catholic families from their homes and then burn them out. He formed the National Union of Protestants which they all wore military style berets. He sat from the sidelines directing the violence, even had his followers drag catholics from their jobs and told never to return. My mums cousin got involved with his group and got arrested for rioting and attacking police. He was told not to worry at the Reverend that represented the common man told them that he would make sure that they wouldn't be charged. Well he done 3 months in the Nick and found the guy that spoke up for the "common man" fell silent??? He sat in his mansion in the richest area of Belfast while his followers did their time in prison. Around this times the UVF was formed who took things to a new level, cathololic areas and chapels were bombed and Mr Paisley supported this. Then things went too far when the UVF shot 2 innocent catholics that were simply walking home. So he then condemed them and denied any associoation with them. What was the excuse he gave for inciting riots? Well if the Catholics haden't tried to get housing and jobs in the first place then this wouldn't have happened? Any of this sound familiar? Because there has always been someone claiming to be representing the "common man" but seemed to profit nicely from it. Maybe I should wake up and see what the establishment is doing to our country? I say Wisdom is always chasing you, but if you keep running it will never catch up! | |||
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"Wtf as the troubles in Belfast got to do with him he wasn’t even born lol" I think it was more the similarity between one person claiming to be for the people, raking in who knows how much money, encouraging rioting or similar, but then distancing themselves when people get charged/sent to prison. | |||
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"Wtf as the troubles in Belfast got to do with him he wasn’t even born lol I think it was more the similarity between one person claiming to be for the people, raking in who knows how much money, encouraging rioting or similar, but then distancing themselves when people get charged/sent to prison. " It wasn't hard to work that out! | |||
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"Wtf as the troubles in Belfast got to do with him he wasn’t even born lol I think it was more the similarity between one person claiming to be for the people, raking in who knows how much money, encouraging rioting or similar, but then distancing themselves when people get charged/sent to prison. " I know that but it’s Tommy we are talking about not Belfast Tommy could argue he as to keep a distance because the police pepper sprayed him dragged him away from a peaceful protest and was arrested for nothing at all maybe that’s his reason ? | |||
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"Wtf as the troubles in Belfast got to do with him he wasn’t even born lol I think it was more the similarity between one person claiming to be for the people, raking in who knows how much money, encouraging rioting or similar, but then distancing themselves when people get charged/sent to prison. I know that but it’s Tommy we are talking about not Belfast Tommy could argue he as to keep a distance because the police pepper sprayed him dragged him away from a peaceful protest and was arrested for nothing at all maybe that’s his reason ?" One of the things that lifts us above animals is the ability to utilise abstract thought. Animals are literal about everything because their brains aren’t as well developed as ours. This is the reason we can use allegories and metaphors in storytelling. | |||
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"Looks like he may have another problem on his hands. The HMRC have started an investigation into him. Well as he has been previously convicted of fraud and declared himself bankrupt a few years back he cannot be a company director. However he had several companies but using friends listed as the director to have donations from his followers directed to. He recently dissolved these companies and siphoned the money to his personal account before moving to Spain avoiding tax. If it is proved that this was intentional then will receive a very large tax bill and fine that could go I into 7 figures. You can use a loophole that if you spend less than 45 in the UK you can get away with it. However he would need to be registered for tax in Spain which he isn’t so if convicted of tax avoidance in Spain then the penalty will be much worse. He is claiming residence in Spain as he has an Irish passport but the Irish government are looking into the fact that it may have been claimed fraudulently and have it removed. In which case he will be deported from Spain back to the UK. Two things are certain in life, death and taxes....... Benjamin Franklin 3thingsvif they are scared of what you are saying they will find a way to shut you up anyway they can Or to put it another way, if you are found guilty of a crime you will face the consequences. Or is this a conspiracy by the HRMC?I agree funny how they are targeting him now tho wonder why that is Well actually they began looking in to it when he dissolved the companies and.... Forget it I need to debate with people than have an IQ closer to mine. I'm not going to win anything here If he wasn’t allowed to be company director, how did he dissolve the businesses? This is just from the company Tommy Robinson Inc which folded in 2018. He has or has had around another 6 or 7 compainies that have folded or are still going under different company directors. Don't have all the facts on them but I'm sure with enough digging I get them. From behind the times paywall Tommy Robinson Inc ‘made £1.6m’ without paying tax — then folded New August 14 The far-right leader and his associates have created a web of secretive companies that have made profits before filing for insolvency, according to filings Tommy Robinson and his associates have created a web of secretive companies which have made profits of more than £1.6 million without paying tax before filing for insolvency, according to corporate filings. The far-right leader has spent six years conducting his anti-migrant activism and fundraising through entities whose directors have failed to file annual accounts on a single occasion. The companies owe £328,000 in corporation tax and employer contributions to HMRC, documents state. Any director who fails to file accounts is committing a criminal offence, is at risk of an prosecution and may have to declare a conviction when travelling overseas. They also face having their company forcibly dissolved and having any assets handed to the Crown. However, Robinson and those close to him have never been subject to any enforcement action. They have instead taken matters into their own hands by appointing an insolvency practitioner to wind up the companies at the 11th hour. In each instance, they have appointed Ninos Koumettou, a British-Cypriot community leader, his son, Yiannis, who was recently fined £10,000 for unrelated regulatory failures, or both. The pair are chartered accountants based in London and partners at Begbies Traynor, a professional services firm with revenue of £120 million a year and offices around the world. Their work with Robinson, real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, 41, started in November 2018. That month, he met Ninos Koumettou, 71, face-to-face in connection with the liquidation of a company of which he was director: Lennon Consultancy." It sounds horrific and abusive of our systems, for likely financial wrongdoing. His multiple passports and frequent travel, highlights how he may be evasive and not unlike the people who he seems to get others to protest against | |||
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"the way that this scumsucker exploits his offspring for financial gain utterly sickens me .... the fact that his fab champions ignore this fact while bleating on about child abusers ... well they sicken me even more 🤮" Bleating on about child abusers? Bleating on? Wow | |||
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"the way that this scumsucker exploits his offspring for financial gain utterly sickens me .... the fact that his fab champions ignore this fact while bleating on about child abusers ... well they sicken me even more 🤮 Bleating on about child abusers? Bleating on? Wow" omfg bleating on about child abusers yes how dare he bring that out in the open when the authorities tried so hard to hide it and you call that bleating on ffs shame on you | |||
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"the way that this scumsucker exploits his offspring for financial gain utterly sickens me .... the fact that his fab champions ignore this fact while bleating on about child abusers ... well they sicken me even more 🤮 Bleating on about child abusers? Bleating on? Wowomfg bleating on about child abusers yes how dare he bring that out in the open when the authorities tried so hard to hide it and you call that bleating on ffs shame on you " thanks ... now proven | |||
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"Wtf as the troubles in Belfast got to do with him he wasn’t even born lol I think it was more the similarity between one person claiming to be for the people, raking in who knows how much money, encouraging rioting or similar, but then distancing themselves when people get charged/sent to prison. I know that but it’s Tommy we are talking about not Belfast Tommy could argue he as to keep a distance because the police pepper sprayed him dragged him away from a peaceful protest and was arrested for nothing at all maybe that’s his reason ? One of the things that lifts us above animals is the ability to utilise abstract thought. Animals are literal about everything because their brains aren’t as well developed as ours. This is the reason we can use allegories and metaphors in storytelling." Very insightfull! although we often see that evolution runs at a different pace in some homosapiens. I haven't been arsed doing anymore digging into the compaines than TR was behind since 2018 as I see no point as I'm sure the HRMC are doing their job. Also I am having my daughter for a long weekend to give my ex a well deserved break. I feel right now having a tea party with her and her dolls/teddy bears and watching finding Nemo for the 50th time will be much better for my mental heath then spending time online. However as it now stands, TR is under investigation by the HRMC, has a court date in October regarding breaking the terms of his civil case that he lost. Also an opinion poll came in yesterday (Yeah opinion polls don't mean much) and it showed that 55% of the "opinon poll" showed that TR was the most responsible for fueling and inciting violence of the riots. Mr Yaxley-Lenon has gone by a few names but right now he is known as Tick-Tock Tommy “This is Scott, last survivor of the Nostromo, signing off (until maybe tuesday) " - Ellen Ripley | |||
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"Wtf as the troubles in Belfast got to do with him he wasn’t even born lol I think it was more the similarity between one person claiming to be for the people, raking in who knows how much money, encouraging rioting or similar, but then distancing themselves when people get charged/sent to prison. I know that but it’s Tommy we are talking about not Belfast Tommy could argue he as to keep a distance because the police pepper sprayed him dragged him away from a peaceful protest and was arrested for nothing at all maybe that’s his reason ? One of the things that lifts us above animals is the ability to utilise abstract thought. Animals are literal about everything because their brains aren’t as well developed as ours. This is the reason we can use allegories and metaphors in storytelling. Very insightfull! although we often see that evolution runs at a different pace in some homosapiens. I haven't been arsed doing anymore digging into the compaines than TR was behind since 2018 as I see no point as I'm sure the HRMC are doing their job. Also I am having my daughter for a long weekend to give my ex a well deserved break. I feel right now having a tea party with her and her dolls/teddy bears and watching finding Nemo for the 50th time will be much better for my mental heath then spending time online. However as it now stands, TR is under investigation by the HRMC, has a court date in October regarding breaking the terms of his civil case that he lost. Also an opinion poll came in yesterday (Yeah opinion polls don't mean much) and it showed that 55% of the "opinon poll" showed that TR was the most responsible for fueling and inciting violence of the riots. Mr Yaxley-Lenon has gone by a few names but right now he is known as Tick-Tock Tommy “This is Scott, last survivor of the Nostromo, signing off (until maybe tuesday) " - Ellen Ripley" enjoy your time with your daughter many thousands of poor little girls lives where and still are being destroyed by grooming gangs the likes Tommy brought into the public domain who knows how many lives this saved so atleast give the lad that | |||
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"enjoy your time with your daughter many thousands of poor little girls lives where and still are being destroyed by grooming gangs the likes Tommy brought into the public domain who knows how many lives this saved so atleast give the lad that " ffs get a grip woman! lol | |||
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"Wtf as the troubles in Belfast got to do with him he wasn’t even born lol I think it was more the similarity between one person claiming to be for the people, raking in who knows how much money, encouraging rioting or similar, but then distancing themselves when people get charged/sent to prison. I know that but it’s Tommy we are talking about not Belfast Tommy could argue he as to keep a distance because the police pepper sprayed him dragged him away from a peaceful protest and was arrested for nothing at all maybe that’s his reason ? One of the things that lifts us above animals is the ability to utilise abstract thought. Animals are literal about everything because their brains aren’t as well developed as ours. This is the reason we can use allegories and metaphors in storytelling. Very insightfull! although we often see that evolution runs at a different pace in some homosapiens. I haven't been arsed doing anymore digging into the compaines than TR was behind since 2018 as I see no point as I'm sure the HRMC are doing their job. Also I am having my daughter for a long weekend to give my ex a well deserved break. I feel right now having a tea party with her and her dolls/teddy bears and watching finding Nemo for the 50th time will be much better for my mental heath then spending time online. However as it now stands, TR is under investigation by the HRMC, has a court date in October regarding breaking the terms of his civil case that he lost. Also an opinion poll came in yesterday (Yeah opinion polls don't mean much) and it showed that 55% of the "opinon poll" showed that TR was the most responsible for fueling and inciting violence of the riots. Mr Yaxley-Lenon has gone by a few names but right now he is known as Tick-Tock Tommy “This is Scott, last survivor of the Nostromo, signing off (until maybe tuesday) " - Ellen Ripleyenjoy your time with your daughter many thousands of poor little girls lives where and still are being destroyed by grooming gangs the likes Tommy brought into the public domain who knows how many lives this saved so atleast give the lad that " How come he ignored those in his own ranks who were doing the same? | |||
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"Wtf as the troubles in Belfast got to do with him he wasn’t even born lol I think it was more the similarity between one person claiming to be for the people, raking in who knows how much money, encouraging rioting or similar, but then distancing themselves when people get charged/sent to prison. I know that but it’s Tommy we are talking about not Belfast Tommy could argue he as to keep a distance because the police pepper sprayed him dragged him away from a peaceful protest and was arrested for nothing at all maybe that’s his reason ? One of the things that lifts us above animals is the ability to utilise abstract thought. Animals are literal about everything because their brains aren’t as well developed as ours. This is the reason we can use allegories and metaphors in storytelling. Very insightfull! although we often see that evolution runs at a different pace in some homosapiens. I haven't been arsed doing anymore digging into the compaines than TR was behind since 2018 as I see no point as I'm sure the HRMC are doing their job. Also I am having my daughter for a long weekend to give my ex a well deserved break. I feel right now having a tea party with her and her dolls/teddy bears and watching finding Nemo for the 50th time will be much better for my mental heath then spending time online. However as it now stands, TR is under investigation by the HRMC, has a court date in October regarding breaking the terms of his civil case that he lost. Also an opinion poll came in yesterday (Yeah opinion polls don't mean much) and it showed that 55% of the "opinon poll" showed that TR was the most responsible for fueling and inciting violence of the riots. Mr Yaxley-Lenon has gone by a few names but right now he is known as Tick-Tock Tommy “This is Scott, last survivor of the Nostromo, signing off (until maybe tuesday) " - Ellen Ripleyenjoy your time with your daughter many thousands of poor little girls lives where and still are being destroyed by grooming gangs the likes Tommy brought into the public domain who knows how many lives this saved so atleast give the lad that How come he ignored those in his own ranks who were doing the same?" what you talking about what ranks do you not agree that it was him that made the headlines that the police had to act on we may not of got to know about the grooming gangs if it wasn’t for him he even went to jail for exposing names | |||
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"who knows how many lives this saved so atleast give the lad that " None. Race hate doesn't save lives. Sorted. As you were. | |||
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"I wonder why they go after the ones with a voice instead of actual criminals? TR has 11 previous criminal offences which include 4 custodial sentences. Does that define an actual criminal? Seems like you have a beef with someone standing up for the common man. I don't see many others doing that and when they do they're labelled far right thugs. So I suppose that makes me far right because being a concerned parent raising a child in this fucked up world of corruption and danger is somehow wrong? But yeah, I'll be sure to take note of a small group of horny individuals using a glorified soliciting platform So taking money from people so he can pay for his lifestyle in marbella is standing up for the common man? Standing up for the common man? There have always been people standing up for the "common man" Not sure if you are familier with the history of the troubles in Belfast? Well I grew up in them and as the catholics started getting housing and jobs and were taking over the protestants feel like they were losing their country and their identity. They needed someone to stand up for the "common man" Enter Reverend Ian Paisley who gave his first sermon at age 16 in a Presbyterian church (very hellfire and brimstone) However Presbyterian wasn't extreme enough so he formed the Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster were the woman were made to wear headscarfs at his churches (wonder why) he preached hate against catholoics and gay people. Well he was representing the "common man" and his church collection boxes were always full He encourged his supporters to riot, drag catholic families from their homes and then burn them out. He formed the National Union of Protestants which they all wore military style berets. He sat from the sidelines directing the violence, even had his followers drag catholics from their jobs and told never to return. My mums cousin got involved with his group and got arrested for rioting and attacking police. He was told not to worry at the Reverend that represented the common man told them that he would make sure that they wouldn't be charged. Well he done 3 months in the Nick and found the guy that spoke up for the "common man" fell silent??? He sat in his mansion in the richest area of Belfast while his followers did their time in prison. Around this times the UVF was formed who took things to a new level, cathololic areas and chapels were bombed and Mr Paisley supported this. Then things went too far when the UVF shot 2 innocent catholics that were simply walking home. So he then condemed them and denied any associoation with them. What was the excuse he gave for inciting riots? Well if the Catholics haden't tried to get housing and jobs in the first place then this wouldn't have happened? Any of this sound familiar? Because there has always been someone claiming to be representing the "common man" but seemed to profit nicely from it. Maybe I should wake up and see what the establishment is doing to our country? I say Wisdom is always chasing you, but if you keep running it will never catch up!" Yet as you said sounds like you come from a protestant union side fair enough me Irish nationalst side, well as you said is right plus other as my side also had a person or people to stand for us but back to rev Ian paisley he was a member of orange order not British Dutch the head of orange order are the Dutch royal family, only reason came over here because of William of orange, he was gay? No interest in his wife James (catholic) daughter plus prefer to drink and well suppose party with what was called Dutch blues all Catholic just loyal to Holland and royal family to this day say special forces but only drank with them anyway enough off what uncle Andy from give my head peace said those Bavarian Fenian lol | |||
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"Wtf as the troubles in Belfast got to do with him he wasn’t even born lol I think it was more the similarity between one person claiming to be for the people, raking in who knows how much money, encouraging rioting or similar, but then distancing themselves when people get charged/sent to prison. I know that but it’s Tommy we are talking about not Belfast Tommy could argue he as to keep a distance because the police pepper sprayed him dragged him away from a peaceful protest and was arrested for nothing at all maybe that’s his reason ? One of the things that lifts us above animals is the ability to utilise abstract thought. Animals are literal about everything because their brains aren’t as well developed as ours. This is the reason we can use allegories and metaphors in storytelling. Very insightfull! although we often see that evolution runs at a different pace in some homosapiens. I haven't been arsed doing anymore digging into the compaines than TR was behind since 2018 as I see no point as I'm sure the HRMC are doing their job. Also I am having my daughter for a long weekend to give my ex a well deserved break. I feel right now having a tea party with her and her dolls/teddy bears and watching finding Nemo for the 50th time will be much better for my mental heath then spending time online. However as it now stands, TR is under investigation by the HRMC, has a court date in October regarding breaking the terms of his civil case that he lost. Also an opinion poll came in yesterday (Yeah opinion polls don't mean much) and it showed that 55% of the "opinon poll" showed that TR was the most responsible for fueling and inciting violence of the riots. Mr Yaxley-Lenon has gone by a few names but right now he is known as Tick-Tock Tommy “This is Scott, last survivor of the Nostromo, signing off (until maybe tuesday) " - Ellen Ripleyenjoy your time with your daughter many thousands of poor little girls lives where and still are being destroyed by grooming gangs the likes Tommy brought into the public domain who knows how many lives this saved so atleast give the lad that How come he ignored those in his own ranks who were doing the same?what you talking about what ranks do you not agree that it was him that made the headlines that the police had to act on we may not of got to know about the grooming gangs if it wasn’t for him he even went to jail for exposing names " You mean you don’t know about the pedos in the EDL, among Tommeh’s associates? | |||
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"who knows how many lives this saved so atleast give the lad that None. Race hate doesn't save lives. Sorted. As you were. " ahhh so your one of these ppl that wished it never came to light then but yes bury your head in the sand like the police and social services pretend thousands of girls not getting r@ped and tortured and Tommy calling it out to the public never saved a life then shocking even for you you do know it’s still going on probably in a town near you and yes Tommy is still calling it out good on the lad | |||
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"Wtf as the troubles in Belfast got to do with him he wasn’t even born lol I think it was more the similarity between one person claiming to be for the people, raking in who knows how much money, encouraging rioting or similar, but then distancing themselves when people get charged/sent to prison. I know that but it’s Tommy we are talking about not Belfast Tommy could argue he as to keep a distance because the police pepper sprayed him dragged him away from a peaceful protest and was arrested for nothing at all maybe that’s his reason ? One of the things that lifts us above animals is the ability to utilise abstract thought. Animals are literal about everything because their brains aren’t as well developed as ours. This is the reason we can use allegories and metaphors in storytelling. Very insightfull! although we often see that evolution runs at a different pace in some homosapiens. I haven't been arsed doing anymore digging into the compaines than TR was behind since 2018 as I see no point as I'm sure the HRMC are doing their job. Also I am having my daughter for a long weekend to give my ex a well deserved break. I feel right now having a tea party with her and her dolls/teddy bears and watching finding Nemo for the 50th time will be much better for my mental heath then spending time online. However as it now stands, TR is under investigation by the HRMC, has a court date in October regarding breaking the terms of his civil case that he lost. Also an opinion poll came in yesterday (Yeah opinion polls don't mean much) and it showed that 55% of the "opinon poll" showed that TR was the most responsible for fueling and inciting violence of the riots. Mr Yaxley-Lenon has gone by a few names but right now he is known as Tick-Tock Tommy “This is Scott, last survivor of the Nostromo, signing off (until maybe tuesday) " - Ellen Ripleyenjoy your time with your daughter many thousands of poor little girls lives where and still are being destroyed by grooming gangs the likes Tommy brought into the public domain who knows how many lives this saved so atleast give the lad that How come he ignored those in his own ranks who were doing the same?what you talking about what ranks do you not agree that it was him that made the headlines that the police had to act on we may not of got to know about the grooming gangs if it wasn’t for him he even went to jail for exposing names You mean you don’t know about the pedos in the EDL, among Tommeh’s associates?" theres pedos in every political party large workforeses even the royal family but I bet if he knew of anyone personally he would deal with them and not need the police like a real man would like any man on fab would | |||
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"Wtf as the troubles in Belfast got to do with him he wasn’t even born lol I think it was more the similarity between one person claiming to be for the people, raking in who knows how much money, encouraging rioting or similar, but then distancing themselves when people get charged/sent to prison. I know that but it’s Tommy we are talking about not Belfast Tommy could argue he as to keep a distance because the police pepper sprayed him dragged him away from a peaceful protest and was arrested for nothing at all maybe that’s his reason ? One of the things that lifts us above animals is the ability to utilise abstract thought. Animals are literal about everything because their brains aren’t as well developed as ours. This is the reason we can use allegories and metaphors in storytelling. Very insightfull! although we often see that evolution runs at a different pace in some homosapiens. I haven't been arsed doing anymore digging into the compaines than TR was behind since 2018 as I see no point as I'm sure the HRMC are doing their job. Also I am having my daughter for a long weekend to give my ex a well deserved break. I feel right now having a tea party with her and her dolls/teddy bears and watching finding Nemo for the 50th time will be much better for my mental heath then spending time online. However as it now stands, TR is under investigation by the HRMC, has a court date in October regarding breaking the terms of his civil case that he lost. Also an opinion poll came in yesterday (Yeah opinion polls don't mean much) and it showed that 55% of the "opinon poll" showed that TR was the most responsible for fueling and inciting violence of the riots. Mr Yaxley-Lenon has gone by a few names but right now he is known as Tick-Tock Tommy “This is Scott, last survivor of the Nostromo, signing off (until maybe tuesday) " - Ellen Ripleyenjoy your time with your daughter many thousands of poor little girls lives where and still are being destroyed by grooming gangs the likes Tommy brought into the public domain who knows how many lives this saved so atleast give the lad that How come he ignored those in his own ranks who were doing the same?what you talking about what ranks do you not agree that it was him that made the headlines that the police had to act on we may not of got to know about the grooming gangs if it wasn’t for him he even went to jail for exposing names You mean you don’t know about the pedos in the EDL, among Tommeh’s associates?theres pedos in every political party large workforeses even the royal family but I bet if he knew of anyone personally he would deal with them and not need the police like a real man would like any man on fab would " Did you read the statements he put out condemning them? | |||
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"Wtf as the troubles in Belfast got to do with him he wasn’t even born lol I think it was more the similarity between one person claiming to be for the people, raking in who knows how much money, encouraging rioting or similar, but then distancing themselves when people get charged/sent to prison. I know that but it’s Tommy we are talking about not Belfast Tommy could argue he as to keep a distance because the police pepper sprayed him dragged him away from a peaceful protest and was arrested for nothing at all maybe that’s his reason ? One of the things that lifts us above animals is the ability to utilise abstract thought. Animals are literal about everything because their brains aren’t as well developed as ours. This is the reason we can use allegories and metaphors in storytelling. Very insightfull! although we often see that evolution runs at a different pace in some homosapiens. I haven't been arsed doing anymore digging into the compaines than TR was behind since 2018 as I see no point as I'm sure the HRMC are doing their job. Also I am having my daughter for a long weekend to give my ex a well deserved break. I feel right now having a tea party with her and her dolls/teddy bears and watching finding Nemo for the 50th time will be much better for my mental heath then spending time online. However as it now stands, TR is under investigation by the HRMC, has a court date in October regarding breaking the terms of his civil case that he lost. Also an opinion poll came in yesterday (Yeah opinion polls don't mean much) and it showed that 55% of the "opinon poll" showed that TR was the most responsible for fueling and inciting violence of the riots. Mr Yaxley-Lenon has gone by a few names but right now he is known as Tick-Tock Tommy “This is Scott, last survivor of the Nostromo, signing off (until maybe tuesday) " - Ellen Ripleyenjoy your time with your daughter many thousands of poor little girls lives where and still are being destroyed by grooming gangs the likes Tommy brought into the public domain who knows how many lives this saved so atleast give the lad that How come he ignored those in his own ranks who were doing the same?what you talking about what ranks do you not agree that it was him that made the headlines that the police had to act on we may not of got to know about the grooming gangs if it wasn’t for him he even went to jail for exposing names You mean you don’t know about the pedos in the EDL, among Tommeh’s associates?theres pedos in every political party large workforeses even the royal family but I bet if he knew of anyone personally he would deal with them and not need the police like a real man would like any man on fab would Did you read the statements he put out condemning them?" No sorry I never did what did he say and do you really think he would be around pedos of he new I know it’s hard for you and some to be honest about stuf like this because you hate him so much but would any man be around a pedo if they nee about it but you can’t say that he didn’t play a big apart in ousting the vile gangs not that is if you are honest | |||
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"Wtf as the troubles in Belfast got to do with him he wasn’t even born lol I think it was more the similarity between one person claiming to be for the people, raking in who knows how much money, encouraging rioting or similar, but then distancing themselves when people get charged/sent to prison. I know that but it’s Tommy we are talking about not Belfast Tommy could argue he as to keep a distance because the police pepper sprayed him dragged him away from a peaceful protest and was arrested for nothing at all maybe that’s his reason ? One of the things that lifts us above animals is the ability to utilise abstract thought. Animals are literal about everything because their brains aren’t as well developed as ours. This is the reason we can use allegories and metaphors in storytelling. Very insightfull! although we often see that evolution runs at a different pace in some homosapiens. I haven't been arsed doing anymore digging into the compaines than TR was behind since 2018 as I see no point as I'm sure the HRMC are doing their job. Also I am having my daughter for a long weekend to give my ex a well deserved break. I feel right now having a tea party with her and her dolls/teddy bears and watching finding Nemo for the 50th time will be much better for my mental heath then spending time online. However as it now stands, TR is under investigation by the HRMC, has a court date in October regarding breaking the terms of his civil case that he lost. Also an opinion poll came in yesterday (Yeah opinion polls don't mean much) and it showed that 55% of the "opinon poll" showed that TR was the most responsible for fueling and inciting violence of the riots. Mr Yaxley-Lenon has gone by a few names but right now he is known as Tick-Tock Tommy “This is Scott, last survivor of the Nostromo, signing off (until maybe tuesday) " - Ellen Ripleyenjoy your time with your daughter many thousands of poor little girls lives where and still are being destroyed by grooming gangs the likes Tommy brought into the public domain who knows how many lives this saved so atleast give the lad that How come he ignored those in his own ranks who were doing the same?what you talking about what ranks do you not agree that it was him that made the headlines that the police had to act on we may not of got to know about the grooming gangs if it wasn’t for him he even went to jail for exposing names You mean you don’t know about the pedos in the EDL, among Tommeh’s associates?theres pedos in every political party large workforeses even the royal family but I bet if he knew of anyone personally he would deal with them and not need the police like a real man would like any man on fab would Did you read the statements he put out condemning them? No sorry I never did what did he say and do you really think he would be around pedos of he new I know it’s hard for you and some to be honest about stuf like this because you hate him so much but would any man be around a pedo if they nee about it but you can’t say that he didn’t play a big apart in ousting the vile gangs not that is if you are honest " That’s because he didn’t put any statements out, he knew all about them but he didn’t condemn them, why do you think that is? | |||
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"Wtf as the troubles in Belfast got to do with him he wasn’t even born lol I think it was more the similarity between one person claiming to be for the people, raking in who knows how much money, encouraging rioting or similar, but then distancing themselves when people get charged/sent to prison. I know that but it’s Tommy we are talking about not Belfast Tommy could argue he as to keep a distance because the police pepper sprayed him dragged him away from a peaceful protest and was arrested for nothing at all maybe that’s his reason ? One of the things that lifts us above animals is the ability to utilise abstract thought. Animals are literal about everything because their brains aren’t as well developed as ours. This is the reason we can use allegories and metaphors in storytelling. Very insightfull! although we often see that evolution runs at a different pace in some homosapiens. I haven't been arsed doing anymore digging into the compaines than TR was behind since 2018 as I see no point as I'm sure the HRMC are doing their job. Also I am having my daughter for a long weekend to give my ex a well deserved break. I feel right now having a tea party with her and her dolls/teddy bears and watching finding Nemo for the 50th time will be much better for my mental heath then spending time online. However as it now stands, TR is under investigation by the HRMC, has a court date in October regarding breaking the terms of his civil case that he lost. Also an opinion poll came in yesterday (Yeah opinion polls don't mean much) and it showed that 55% of the "opinon poll" showed that TR was the most responsible for fueling and inciting violence of the riots. Mr Yaxley-Lenon has gone by a few names but right now he is known as Tick-Tock Tommy “This is Scott, last survivor of the Nostromo, signing off (until maybe tuesday) " - Ellen Ripleyenjoy your time with your daughter many thousands of poor little girls lives where and still are being destroyed by grooming gangs the likes Tommy brought into the public domain who knows how many lives this saved so atleast give the lad that How come he ignored those in his own ranks who were doing the same?what you talking about what ranks do you not agree that it was him that made the headlines that the police had to act on we may not of got to know about the grooming gangs if it wasn’t for him he even went to jail for exposing names You mean you don’t know about the pedos in the EDL, among Tommeh’s associates?theres pedos in every political party large workforeses even the royal family but I bet if he knew of anyone personally he would deal with them and not need the police like a real man would like any man on fab would Did you read the statements he put out condemning them? No sorry I never did what did he say and do you really think he would be around pedos of he new I know it’s hard for you and some to be honest about stuf like this because you hate him so much but would any man be around a pedo if they nee about it but you can’t say that he didn’t play a big apart in ousting the vile gangs not that is if you are honest That’s because he didn’t put any statements out, he knew all about them but he didn’t condemn them, why do you think that is?" well iv just read his Facebook statement he didn’t condem him because the guy claimed the computer was recently bought that’s all I found and what are you trying to say why do I think that is ?and can u actually answer my question I put to ya ? | |||
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"he didn't condemn senior edl leader leigh mcmillan either" I’ll take your word for that then but did he do a good thing in bringing it to the publics attention anout the grooming gangs you don’t have to like someone to admit to them doing something good I don’t like the royals but if it had been Charlie who did the same I’d say well done fella hats of to ya | |||
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"at least 20 members have been convicted .... not one condemnation has been issued by two tier tommy" 20? That’s a lot of blind eyes to turn. I wonder what was different about the little girls the friends of Tommeh abused that meant they weren’t worth protecting? | |||
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