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By *atEvolution OP   Couple 18 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

https://news.sky.com/story/jd-vance-donald-trumps-vice-president-pick-suggests-uk-is-first-islamist-country-with-nuclear-weapons-13178526

"JD Vance: Donald Trump's vice president pick suggests UK is 'first Islamist country with nuclear weapons'

Mr Vance - who once described Mr Trump as an "idiot" and "America's Hitler" - made the comments about the UK at the National Conservatism conference last week.

Donald Trump's running mate suggested the UK is the "first truly Islamist country" to obtain nuclear weapons after Labour won the election."

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By *otMe66Man 18 weeks ago

Terra Firma

"will be" not "is".

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple 18 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


""will be" not "is".

"

?

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By *otMe66Man 18 weeks ago

Terra Firma


""will be" not "is".

?"

he said, they thought the UK "will be" the first Islamist country with nuclear weapons

not, they thought the UK "is" the first Islamist country with nuclear weapons

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple 18 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


""will be" not "is".

?

he said, they thought the UK "will be" the first Islamist country with nuclear weapons

not, they thought the UK "is" the first Islamist country with nuclear weapons

"

You should take that up with SkyNews.

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By *astandFeistyCouple 18 weeks ago

Bournemouth


""will be" not "is".

?

he said, they thought the UK "will be" the first Islamist country with nuclear weapons

not, they thought the UK "is" the first Islamist country with nuclear weapons

"

He did say "is"...

I'm thinking it was actually a joke though, hear the laughter in the crowd.

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By *otMe66Man 18 weeks ago

Terra Firma


""will be" not "is".

?

he said, they thought the UK "will be" the first Islamist country with nuclear weapons

not, they thought the UK "is" the first Islamist country with nuclear weapons

He did say "is"...

I'm thinking it was actually a joke though, hear the laughter in the crowd. "

I was wrong, he didn't say "Will be" he said "what is the first truly Islamist country that will get a nuclear weapon"

Word for word under here, it is hard to read, the tenses are all over the place..

And I was talking about, you know, what is the first truly Islamist country that will get a nuclear weapon, and we were like, maybe it’s Iran, you know, maybe Pakistan already kind of counts, and then we sort of finally decided maybe it’s actually the UK, since Labour just took over.”

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By *atEvolution OP   Couple 18 weeks ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Glad that one is sorted - and back to the OP.

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By *oubleswing2019Man 18 weeks ago

Colchester

My dearest mother was bemoaning the country turning in to something else the other day (She watches GB News and has self-radicalised, like you do).

I said "You know countries and civilisations evolve right ?"

"Oh no", she said, "We are a Christian Country".

"Not originally. We were Pagan. And probably Animists before that. But the Romans brought their Pantheon over. All their Gods/Goddesses. Then they went full Christian. So things do change. It's normal."

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By *ostindreamsMan 18 weeks ago

London

He mentioned it as a joke about Labour being pro-Islam. But I can see Labour changing their stance on Islam after seeing how their own candidates got harrassed during the recent election campaign just because the candidates did not support some people's stance on the Palestine issue.

The liberal left bending over backwards to defend Islam didn't make any logical sense to begin with. The sooner they realise, the better it is for them.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 18 weeks ago

golden fields


"My dearest mother was bemoaning the country turning in to something else the other day (She watches GB News and has self-radicalised, like you do).

I said "You know countries and civilisations evolve right ?"

"Oh no", she said, "We are a Christian Country".

"Not originally. We were Pagan. And probably Animists before that. But the Romans brought their Pantheon over. All their Gods/Goddesses. Then they went full Christian. So things do change. It's normal.""

GB News would be extreme far left for someone like Vance.

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By *eroy1000Man 18 weeks ago

milton keynes


"https://news.sky.com/story/jd-vance-donald-trumps-vice-president-pick-suggests-uk-is-first-islamist-country-with-nuclear-weapons-13178526

"JD Vance: Donald Trump's vice president pick suggests UK is 'first Islamist country with nuclear weapons'

Mr Vance - who once described Mr Trump as an "idiot" and "America's Hitler" - made the comments about the UK at the National Conservatism conference last week.

Donald Trump's running mate suggested the UK is the "first truly Islamist country" to obtain nuclear weapons after Labour won the election."

"

Trump and Vance, what a duo they will be if elected. Bet SKS and co are really looking forward to working with them

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By *ostindreamsMan 18 weeks ago

London


"My dearest mother was bemoaning the country turning in to something else the other day (She watches GB News and has self-radicalised, like you do).

I said "You know countries and civilisations evolve right ?"

"Oh no", she said, "We are a Christian Country".

"Not originally. We were Pagan. And probably Animists before that. But the Romans brought their Pantheon over. All their Gods/Goddesses. Then they went full Christian. So things do change. It's normal.""

You act like those changes happened smoothly where everyone sat together and peacefully converted. Most of those changes involved brutal murder and oppression of some groups. Changes happen all the times, yes. Doesn't mean you have to sit and let it happen.

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By *otMe66Man 18 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"https://news.sky.com/story/jd-vance-donald-trumps-vice-president-pick-suggests-uk-is-first-islamist-country-with-nuclear-weapons-13178526

"JD Vance: Donald Trump's vice president pick suggests UK is 'first Islamist country with nuclear weapons'

Mr Vance - who once described Mr Trump as an "idiot" and "America's Hitler" - made the comments about the UK at the National Conservatism conference last week.

Donald Trump's running mate suggested the UK is the "first truly Islamist country" to obtain nuclear weapons after Labour won the election."

Trump and Vance, what a duo they will be if elected. Bet SKS and co are really looking forward to working with them"

I bet they are

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan 18 weeks ago

nearby


"https://news.sky.com/story/jd-vance-donald-trumps-vice-president-pick-suggests-uk-is-first-islamist-country-with-nuclear-weapons-13178526

"JD Vance: Donald Trump's vice president pick suggests UK is 'first Islamist country with nuclear weapons'

Mr Vance - who once described Mr Trump as an "idiot" and "America's Hitler" - made the comments about the UK at the National Conservatism conference last week.

Donald Trump's running mate suggested the UK is the "first truly Islamist country" to obtain nuclear weapons after Labour won the election."

Trump and Vance, what a duo they will be if elected. Bet SKS and co are really looking forward to working with them

I bet they are "

Lammy has insulted Trump publicly and in writing. Called a neo nazi, and a KKK supporter

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By *ggdrasil66Man 18 weeks ago

Saltdean


"https://news.sky.com/story/jd-vance-donald-trumps-vice-president-pick-suggests-uk-is-first-islamist-country-with-nuclear-weapons-13178526

"JD Vance: Donald Trump's vice president pick suggests UK is 'first Islamist country with nuclear weapons'

Mr Vance - who once described Mr Trump as an "idiot" and "America's Hitler" - made the comments about the UK at the National Conservatism conference last week.

Donald Trump's running mate suggested the UK is the "first truly Islamist country" to obtain nuclear weapons after Labour won the election."

Trump and Vance, what a duo they will be if elected. Bet SKS and co are really looking forward to working with them

I bet they are

Lammy has insulted Trump publicly and in writing. Called a neo nazi, and a KKK supporter

"

Lammy is a buffoon, you would expect that kind of shit from an uneducated leftist, not a member of His Majesties Government.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 18 weeks ago

golden fields


"https://news.sky.com/story/jd-vance-donald-trumps-vice-president-pick-suggests-uk-is-first-islamist-country-with-nuclear-weapons-13178526

"JD Vance: Donald Trump's vice president pick suggests UK is 'first Islamist country with nuclear weapons'

Mr Vance - who once described Mr Trump as an "idiot" and "America's Hitler" - made the comments about the UK at the National Conservatism conference last week.

Donald Trump's running mate suggested the UK is the "first truly Islamist country" to obtain nuclear weapons after Labour won the election."

Trump and Vance, what a duo they will be if elected. Bet SKS and co are really looking forward to working with them

I bet they are

Lammy has insulted Trump publicly and in writing. Called a neo nazi, and a KKK supporter

Lammy is a buffoon, you would expect that kind of shit from an uneducated leftist, not a member of His Majesties Government."

Lammy has a degree in Law.

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By *rMrsWatfordCouple 18 weeks ago

Watford

Totally agree uk has fallen

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By *lfasoCouple 18 weeks ago

South East


"https://news.sky.com/story/jd-vance-donald-trumps-vice-president-pick-suggests-uk-is-first-islamist-country-with-nuclear-weapons-13178526

"JD Vance: Donald Trump's vice president pick suggests UK is 'first Islamist country with nuclear weapons'

Mr Vance - who once described Mr Trump as an "idiot" and "America's Hitler" - made the comments about the UK at the National Conservatism conference last week.

Donald Trump's running mate suggested the UK is the "first truly Islamist country" to obtain nuclear weapons after Labour won the election."

Trump and Vance, what a duo they will be if elected. Bet SKS and co are really looking forward to working with them

I bet they are

Lammy has insulted Trump publicly and in writing. Called a neo nazi, and a KKK supporter

Lammy is a buffoon, you would expect that kind of shit from an uneducated leftist, not a member of His Majesties Government.

Lammy has a degree in Law. "

Bob Menendes also has a degree in law.

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By *idnight RamblerMan 18 weeks ago

Pershore

Looked at in the cold light of day, he's likely right. That's where we're headed, most probably France too for that matter. It's inevitable.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 18 weeks ago

golden fields


"https://news.sky.com/story/jd-vance-donald-trumps-vice-president-pick-suggests-uk-is-first-islamist-country-with-nuclear-weapons-13178526

"JD Vance: Donald Trump's vice president pick suggests UK is 'first Islamist country with nuclear weapons'

Mr Vance - who once described Mr Trump as an "idiot" and "America's Hitler" - made the comments about the UK at the National Conservatism conference last week.

Donald Trump's running mate suggested the UK is the "first truly Islamist country" to obtain nuclear weapons after Labour won the election."

Trump and Vance, what a duo they will be if elected. Bet SKS and co are really looking forward to working with them

I bet they are

Lammy has insulted Trump publicly and in writing. Called a neo nazi, and a KKK supporter

Lammy is a buffoon, you would expect that kind of shit from an uneducated leftist, not a member of His Majesties Government.

Lammy has a degree in Law.

Bob Menendes also has a degree in law."

Was someone claiming Menendes is uneducated?

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By *ggdrasil66Man 18 weeks ago

Saltdean


"Looked at in the cold light of day, he's likely right. That's where we're headed, most probably France too for that matter. It's inevitable."

It would take a massive revolution to stop it…

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By *oubleswing2019Man 18 weeks ago

Colchester


"You act like those changes happened smoothly where everyone sat together and peacefully converted. Most of those changes involved brutal murder and oppression of some groups. Changes happen all the times, yes. Doesn't mean you have to sit and let it happen."

Actually I didn't mention the friction of change, as that was not relevant to our discussion. I was challenging the "We are X, so we must always be X" inflexibility of her outlook. I don't think she understood that if at some point in the future the population of the UK at that time elect a government to implement new laws as suits their beliefs, and they were in a majority, the UK would cease to be predominantly Christian and move to another system. I accept that whilst I may have been in a majority at one point in my life, it is not guaranteed to always be the same for the rest of it.

I suppose you could look at Jesus and the Romans for example.

Romans : We are X. We have all these gods.

Jesus : Hold my wine...

Christianity has overthrown many systems, and in turn it will get overthrown. All systems eventually do.

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By *ostindreamsMan 18 weeks ago

London


"You act like those changes happened smoothly where everyone sat together and peacefully converted. Most of those changes involved brutal murder and oppression of some groups. Changes happen all the times, yes. Doesn't mean you have to sit and let it happen.

Actually I didn't mention the friction of change, as that was not relevant to our discussion. I was challenging the "We are X, so we must always be X" inflexibility of her outlook. I don't think she understood that if at some point in the future the population of the UK at that time elect a government to implement new laws as suits their beliefs, and they were in a majority, the UK would cease to be predominantly Christian and move to another system. I accept that whilst I may have been in a majority at one point in my life, it is not guaranteed to always be the same for the rest of it.

I suppose you could look at Jesus and the Romans for example.

Romans : We are X. We have all these gods.

Jesus : Hold my wine...

Christianity has overthrown many systems, and in turn it will get overthrown. All systems eventually do.

"

All changes come with friction. You can't ignore that friction just like that and use "change is normal" as an argument to let something happen. It is relevant to the discussion.

Let me turn this around. If an ideology based on racial supremacy takes over in the country and someone starts complaining about it, would you agree with the complaints or would you just say "change is normal because historically... blah blah blah"?

There are reasons why some people are scared of Islam. Go look at how minorities are treated in Islamic countries. These people have all the rights to raise their concerns about it.

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By (user no longer on site) 18 weeks ago

For all the media scaremongering you don't find many islamists at all in the UK military. Its the armed forces that have the guns. If things did ever go south you can be certain the military would crack down very quickly indeed. Their allegiance is to the crown, not whatever MP or party that just happens to get elected.

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